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It's time to decide /v/. Which one is the most overrate console of all time?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13512843
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>>384915176
Dreamcast was on par with early gamecube
64 too dated
This post is a fact
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n64
by far
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Where's the PS1? That shit is definitely overrated even the Saturn is better than it
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PS2
shit hardware, loads of shovelware, made for casuals, worst controller of the gen, most boring design of the gen
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>>384917597
top hipster
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>>384917786
This
>>384917885
Sony has very VERY overrated consoles their games or exclusives were never very good, if that's hipster to you well you might just need some taste
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>>384918542
The Saturn is the original nogames machine. Just about every genre except maybe shmup is better represented on the PS1.
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>>384918542
Holy shit, a wild segafag! Thought you guys were a dying breed.
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>>384918795
Saturn pushed 2D games can't say the same for sony consoles
>>384918969
Nah I just like to have great games, just happens to be on Sega platforms :)
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>>384919145
Saturn games were 2D because it sucked at anything else. That said, Saturn couldn't even play SotN without choking.
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>>384919332
False
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>>384915176
Anyone voting N64 is underaged.

OOT and SM64 are some of the greatest games of all time bar none.
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>>384919654
WW and SMS were better
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>Overrated consoles
>One of them is niche and forgotten
>No sign of PS2, DS, Gameboy, etc
Shit Sonynegro list.
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>>384919451
https://youtu.be/5PxGM1np2hU?t=10m28s
How's it feel to be the loser of every generation?
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>>384919743
lmao
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Gamecube. N64 is generally considered to be bad. Dreamcast has a very passionate fanbase but is generally ignored. Gamecube had entries in series that actively hurt those series yet is passionately loved by a vocal group.
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GCN
>good machine
>good games
>deserves most of the praise it gets

N64
>shitty gimmicks
>bad games
>BUT was good for 4 players
>AND in it's defense the PSX and SAT weren't any better
>deserves some recognition, but not much

DC
>good hardware
>no good games except some arcade ports
>the only system from it's generation to fail
>still worshipped by hipsters despite being useless
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>>384919332
>Saturn couldn't even play SotN without choking.
It could have, but the Saturn version of SotN was a shit port that had many bad porting decisions.
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>>384919897
>Digital Foundary
All they do is make up shit don't use them for real evidence you Sony fanboy
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Nintencücks falseflagging hard here

>>384919897
https://youtu.be/SNfSRpc2lhI
Cry more
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>>384920565
>those dithered spotlights
lmao Saturn looks like shit right out of the gate
The poor console can't even display a full screen FMV
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>>384919743

underrated
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Wii
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definitely fucking dreamcast. I had one they could play burned pirated game cds and i still couldn't find a fucking game to play. shenmue was fucking boring as shit, jet set radio got boring fast and wasn't even fun or good to begin with, I thought power stone was fucking shit. couldn't find a single fucking game I liked on the entire fucking system.
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>>384917786
>>384918542

Retards.
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>>384920943
>hating on power stone
nigger you just need to find a bro to play with

I agree about Shenmue though, I cannot understand the love for this game
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N64 because people to this say say it was better than the PS1
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>>384921185
I agree, Gamecube fans and Dreamcast fans rarely believe those consoles had a better library than PS2. N64 fans often believe it beat the PS1 in that regard.
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>>384920943
OP here. That was my vote. There is literally zero good games on the Dreamcast. apart from maybe the odd game that's been ported a million times like Soul Calibur
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>>384921185
>>384921347
The N64 stomps the PS1 are you fucking kidding me?!
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>>384921446
For every great game on N64, PS1 has one of equal quality and 5 more lesser but still good games.
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>>384921347
The best games of the generation>10 billion 7/10s
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>>384921446
Name every good N64 game that most people would agree with
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>>384921418
What has Soul Calibur 1 been ported to?
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>>384915176

Could it be any more obvious that sonygro made this poll?
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>>384915176
Out of these three, Dreamcast definitely.

N64 had innovative first party games like Mario 64, OoT and Majora's Mask, as well as classics like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.

Gamecube had Melee, which is still being played competitively. Also Metroid Prime, Wind Waker etc.

Dreamcast had a bunch of really good ports of arcade games. But those were still ports. The arcade originals have held up just as well and most worthwhile games have gotten superior ports since then. Other than that there's the start of the shitty 3D Sonic games and... not much else really. The Dreamcast is not relevant anymore and it never really was.
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>>384921627
Well the first time I played it was on XBLA.
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>>384920779
It's funny to read this since the load times are much faster in the Saturn version.
And I was generous to post MMX4: it's probably one of the few time the ps could compete.

>>384921418
Sorry about your bad taste. Capcom support alone already makes it a worthwhile purchase.
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PS2
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>>384921706
You've just got to be objective. I admit that putting not one but two Nintendo consoles in the selection was goona bait the Nintendofags too easily but calling any Sony home console bad or overrated just doesn't make any sense purely because of their massive game libraries.
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>>384921537
>>384921615
Banjo-kazooie
Banjo tooie
Diddy Kong racing
DK64
Conker bad fur day
Blast corps
Mystical ninja starring goemon
Goemon great Adventure
Kirby and the crystal shards
Blast corps
F-Zero X
Paper Mario
Super Mario 64
Space station silicon valley
Ocarina of Time
Majora's mask
Ogre battle 64
Mischief makers
Perfect dark
Star fox 64
Super smash Bros
Mario kart 64

PS1 can't hold a candle to this library
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>>384921964
Name 5 good Dreamcast games that aren't arcade ports
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>>384922153
>doesn't make any sense purely because of their massive game libraries
Despite the fact that the "massive game library" was filled with overrated games as well as sub par multiplats.
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>>384922153
PS1 and PS2 were good consoles, but not because of the size of their game libraries. 99% of them were shit. It's just that there were enough good games among that sea of shit.
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>>384922197
Any now your argument has fallen down. You can actually name all the good N64 games off the top of your head or by looking at your collection or whatever. No one can name all the good PS1 games because its library is so vast.
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>>384922197
Banjo games held up surprisingly poorly.
Goemon was never that great
WTF is Space Station Silicon Valley, never heard of it

Good list otherwise
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>>384920408
>no good games
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>>384922469
Not only that but he listed the same game twice lmao
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Of those three choices? Probably the N64. It aged the worst, because it's 5th gen. It has a ridiculously small library. It's in large part missing entire genres. Don't get me wrong, the few games it did get are all time classics, but as a whole, I just think it's a bit lacking.
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>>384922421
>>384922306
I'm saying that, because they have such massive libraries, they can't have less good games than the N64 or Gamecube respectively so calling them bad or overrated doesn't make sense. The quality over quantity argument doesn't mean anything when they have roughly the same amount of quality games (the PS2 quite a few more than the Gamecube)
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N64.
Saturn was better than that.
PSX>Saturn>N64
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>>384922748
>so calling them bad or overrated doesn't make sense.
Of course it makes sense. Quantity has nothing to do with games being overrated.
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>>384922607
>WTF is Space Station Silicon Valley
A game developed by the team who formed Rockstar afterwards
>>384922469
The best PS1 games can't aren't as good as any of the games I listed though
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>>384920408
>DC
>the only system from it's generation to fail
The Gamecube failed.
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The Wii
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>>384923009
>The Gamecube failed.
Making a profit isn't failing.
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>>384923009
Yeah the Wii was Nintendo's submission that the Gamecube failed
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>>384923009
The Gamecube didn't fail. Yes, it was third place, but it was only 2 million sales behind the OG Xbox. Everything failed compared to the PS2.
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>>384923091
Selling so poorly that it causes Iwata to say that if they keep making consoles like the Gamecube they don't deserve to be in the console business is absolutely, 100% failing.
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>>384922197
Not going to bother listing them off in great detail because you'll just go "nuh-uh", but
Wipeout > Star Wars Episode 1 Racer >>>>> F Zero
Banjo 1 = Spyro >>> Banjo 2, DK64, Conker
LoK Soul Reaver > OoT
Crash Team Racing >>>> Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing
Is a good start.
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>>384922607
Banjo games are still great to play
Goemon's Great Adventure is a solid 2D Platformer, even the best on the system, Mystical Ninja is really good too.
Never played Space Station but i've seen lot of praise for it.
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>>384923009
>The Gamecube failed.
Let me guess, you think the PS3 was a success too don't you.
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>>384923009
But the Vita didn't, right? :)
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>>384923412
>>384923467
Attempting to deflect won't change the fact that the Gamecube was a failure. My opinion of the PS3 and Vita is irrelevant, we're talking about the Gamecube.
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>>384923345
Wrong on all of those, Spyro was fucking gay and crash team racing had horrendous graphics and controls, Wipeout is boring and I don't know what the hell "soul reaver" is but I'd bet it's meme game shit
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>>384921723
Bullshit
Especially when you put innovation here.
Online gaming alone will always be a better thing than fucking smash bros.
Pic related was copied by nintendo
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>>384917786
its just a dvd player thats why
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>>384923636
Making money is kind of the opposite of being a failure.
Selling 100 million consoles doesn't mean shit if you take a $100 dollar hit on each one. Gamecube was cheap to make, cheap to sell and thus reasonably profitable.
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>>384923636
>won't change the fact that the Gamecube was a failure.
Except the Gamecube wasn't a failure at all especially when it came to software. Regardless of what you believe if it makes a profit then it's not a failure by any means.

>My opinion of the PS3 and Vita is irrelevant
Glad you aren't denying it.
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>Obvious Sony fanboy conveniently leaves Playstation out of the poll
>Too afraid it will win the poll.

I mean come on, the PlayStation is probably the best or at least second best if it was included, but leaving it out just makes this look unprofessional.
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>>384922763
Wrong

N64 > PSX > Saturn
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>>384922254
not him but:
Shenmue 1 and 2
Skies of Arcadia
Jet set radio
Power Stone
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>>384917786

This

But thanks OP I guess for making a shitty poll with only his three preselected options
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>>384923693
>crash team racing had horrendous graphics and controls
Now I've heard everything
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>>384923806
>Making money is kind of the opposite of being a failure.
The company president saying that if the company keeps making consoles like the Gamecube they don't deserve to be in the console business IS being a failure. Are you saying that Iwata lied about the Gamecube's performance?

>>384923864
>Except the Gamecube wasn't a failure at all especially when it came to software.
It absolutely was. The purpose of first-party software is to sell hardware. The Gamecube was a failure, and therefore its failure can be attributed to poor software.

>Regardless of what you believe if it makes a profit then it's not a failure by any means.
Absolutely not. Nintendo's stock price was in the toilet after the N64 and Gamecube. A change was absolutely necessary and the Wii was that change. Then the Wii U comes out being the Gamecube 2.0, flops, and tanks their stock price again. There's more to business than just making a profit. You need to be able to sustain growth.
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>>384915176
all three of these did poorly compared to other consoles at the time

that's like stating the Saturn was overrated
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>>384924181
Don't reply to bait
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>>384924181
>Shenmue 1 and 2
Never did understand the hype for these games, I just can't understand the appeal.
>Skies of Arcadia
Ported to Gamecube. IIRC, everything but audio quality was improved.
>Jet set radio
JSRF is the same but better. Also received a ton of ports.
>Power Stone
Wasn't that an arcade game?
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>>384924248
The Wii U did far worse than the Gamecube, and lead to the first quarter Nintendo made a loss in decades.
That didn't seem to stop them making the Switch.
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>>384924038
its the only console i cant replay again except for some 2d RPG like Suikoden, the rest is too fucking ugly
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>>384924294
YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH
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>>384924415
Just emulate it nigger, emulated PS1 looks amazing
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N64
Has so few good games to bother getting one
Needs an expansion card to even play those few
Needs accessories to utilize some mechanics in games
Very few 2D games

But hey, at least you can save your damn games and do multiplayer while fucking your controller up. I'll give it that.
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>>384924391
>That didn't seem to stop them making the Switch.
Because like with the Gamecube, a change in direction was necessary. Nintendo became delusional from their Wii success and thought that making a console in the style of the Gamecube and giving it the Wii branding would be a surefire way to success. The problem is that they never considered that people didn't want the Gamecube the first time around and they wouldn't want the type of games the Gamecube got the second time around with the Wii U.
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>>384924784
>making a console in the style of the Gamecube
Gamecube was the last time Nintendo tried making a console that was just a straightforward game machine. Everything since then has been gimmick shit, especially the Wii U.
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I can't believe there are still people who believe the N64 was better than th PS1. The 64 was fun but PS1 was far superior in all aspects except 64's 4 player support.
My vote is dreamcast as most overrated
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Is N64 really overrated? It's generally seen as one of Nintendo's weakest consoles and the start of their decline in the market.
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>>384925461
This thread has shown that there are plenty of people who believe the N64 is better than the PS1.
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>>384915176
i like the n64 but it definitely is the most overrated thing there
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>>384925617
fanboys still after all these years , still butt hurt that their parents bought the shittier console
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>>384924248
>The company president saying that if the company keeps making consoles like the Gamecube they don't deserve to be in the console business IS being a failure. A
You retard that's him admitting that it didn't meet HIS standards. Not that it failed.

You want to see a real failure? Look at the PS3, it cost Sony BILLIONS regardless of the 80m+ units it sold.
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The GC was a failure
The fact that nintendo became nu-nintendo is proof of that, you can even find more about that in interviews too
Whats up with nu-nintendofags trying to revision history?
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>>384923209
>>384924248
Can I get a source on that Iwata quote? Also, there's another way to interpret that quote. He could've meant "keep making consoles like the Gamecube" as in "keep making gimmick-free consoles".
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>>384919839
PS1 is a very overrated console. PS2 is meh, it kinda deserves it. Same with DS and Gameboy, they deserve their praise.

Wii is pretty overated. It was the most casual console in history, most of the games were honestly shovelware, besides nintendo releases.
Name eight 3rd party titles that were at least 9/10 and sold above 2 mil on the Wii.

You can't.
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>its another /v/ thinks overrated means its bad episode
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>>384924301
>Games that later get ported to other systems don't count
It's not the Dreamcast's fault if it's games go elsewhere years later. It's like saying "the original Devil May Cry isn't a PS2 exclusive because it got an HD port over a decade later"

Also, JSRF is the same as JSR in the sense that Splatoon 2 is the same as Splatoon. It's not an enhanced port, it's a sequel that refines the basic gameplay mechanics and adds more content.
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>>384922469
Nope, logical fallacy. The real reason is because OP could actually remember n64 games because they were all classics.

He couldn't remember PS1 games because they simply weren't as memorable.

Let's be honest sony fag.
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>>384924912
>Gamecube was the last time Nintendo tried making a console that was just a straightforward game machine.
Thinking like that is why you will never properly understand the Wii and its success.
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>>384927370
Wii, is without a doubt, nintendos worst console
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>>384927370
Sales don't equal quality

The only reason you said sold over 2m is because you'd be very wrong if you didn't. Wii had plenty of great games.
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>>384927646
>years later.
Shenmue 2 wasn't even released on Dreamcast in US IIRC, it was just Xbox. And Skies of Arcadia was 2 years later.
Getting HD remasters in the following console cycle isn't really the same thing.
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>>384927370
>Name eight 3rd party titles that were at least 9/10 and sold above 2 mil on the Wii.
But you can't do that for any system.
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>>384927370
>Name eight 3rd party titles that were at least 9/10 and sold above 2 mil on the Wii.
you sure you dont wanna set any more barriers? christ...
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>>384920408
>no good games
Jesus fuck
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>>384915176
Out of those three, N64
But >>384917786 is the most accurate
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When we're talking "overrated", it's easily the N64. The Dreamcast has a lot of fans, but you don't see people far and wide proclaiming it the best console of all time the way some people do with the N64.

With a few exceptions, the N64 had shitty games. Even the good ones were held back by the console, often running at extremely low frame rates, tons of fog, and an awful blurry look.

The Gamecube isn't really notable. People talk about the games, but it might be a little underrated even as the best version of some games is on the Gamecube.
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>>384927370
[Console] Is super overrated. I bet you can't name at least 40 games 3rd party exclusive games for it that have an average play time of at least 134 hrs and have 10/10 on 7 review sites and sold at least 8 million copies.

You can't
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>>384930424
EZ, the SNES.
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>>384928985
>often running at extremely low frame rates, tons of fog, and an awful blurry look.
Like most games that gen.
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>>384931217
Other consoles usually looked pixellated rather than blurry.
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Somethings are overrated for a reason.

Because they do a damn good job at what they do.

Fight me niglets.
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>>384915176
What in the new adventures of Fuckleberry Hinn are you talking about?

These were all great consoles.
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>>384931597
>pic
don't get this meme desu
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>>384931597
so where's the dick
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>>384924294
all of those look like minigames
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Of course the Gamecube is not overrated. Everyone voting had one when they were kids
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>Gamecube
>Huge Library of first and third party games
>Graphically comparable to competition
>Second worst selling Nintendo console
>Overrated
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The Nintendo 64.
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>>384915176
probably n64, had one growing up, isn't much I care about playing these days on it anymore other than like F-Zero X
maybe the Wii -- but it's a useful machine with a big ass library (even if like 98% is absolute shit) and 240p output for VC games and GC backwards compatibility, and I actually enjoyed Wii Sports

might argue DC, a lot of the really well liked shit has better ports to other machines now, and the library is pretty small, so losing a handful of games to other systems is a big deal for it
the library is pretty good as a whole, but at this point in time, what am I left with? Power Stone? Cannon Spike? Seaman? Soulcalibur 1? Maybe SA1 (entirely different glitches, better lighting and textures than SADX)?
VOOT is better on 360. SA2 is mostly better on GC.
I guess the biggest advantage to the DC is that all of these games are just in the same place.

>>384919839
the original pre-GBC Game Boy is painfully overrated
there's so much absolute shit
I can't think of fifty games that are great on it if I went through a list, and I can't think of ten offhand.

>>384917786
there are like 200 good games for the thing
it's got Wii-tier amounts of shovelware, but it's also full of great games

>>384920779
Saturn version of X4 has different tradeoffs (eg, the nice heat-haze effect in the BG after the colony drop is only on Saturn since PS1 draws backgrounds completely differently and can't do raster effects like that).
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>>384936484
I know about the haze effect, I'm just shitposting.
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>>384937048
let me respond to you anyway like the fucking autist I am

forgot a part of the post anyway:
>The poor console can't even display a full screen FMV
PS1 has what's basically a JPEG decoder (IIRC, it's not actually JPEG, but it's close enough, works on the same principles), making FMV playback extremely low effort.
On the Saturn, you basically need to decode it in software, so FMVs almost universally kind of suck on the machine.
there's an MPEG card you can add into the Saturn that technically solves the problem, but only a tiny handful of games used it and it was expensive anyway
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>>384936484
>there are like 200 good games for the thing
I'd say around 30 or so. The rest are painfully mediocre or better on other systems.
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>>384937536
I know all about that shit too :)

But hey at least the MPEG card ended up being a convenient backdoor into the Saturn's security
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>>384927941
If you're going to use ports to argue against a console then the PS2 was fucking dogshit.

Dreamcast had a short lived production and Sega was trying to make money off of DC games by porting them, as a third party developer it's only logical since they were no longer in the console business.
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>>384915176
It's obvee the PS4. Sells like gangbusters, but literally nothing to play outside of Fifa and CoD.
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The OG Xbox
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