Thoughts on the new Spider-Man game?

need to see a solid amount of time (like at least 5 full minutes) of just swinging around the city and getting into fights to make my mind up

I hope it's good, but it's too soon to say.

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Playstation Experience will be the event where I decide if I get this game or not

It looks like they're more worried about graphics than substance

>>384909839
>QTE
Dropped. And I'm a huge Spider-Man fan

Shitty spider man costume. Those white splotches look retarded. Hope I can change costumes from minute 1 so i dont have to play the whole game looking like that.

Looks like it's going to be bogged down by AAA storytelling and gameplay, but if the movement is fun then it will all be worth it.

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>>384908791
>Arkham gameplay
>QTEs
>vastly underpowered Spider-man
>Yuri Lowenthal
>ANAD Marvel
>fucking Miles Morales
Yeah, not going anywhere near this piece of shit

>>384908791
Eh, it looks okay. I was excited for it until I saw the combat, looks so boring. Just tap X and occasionally Y to counter, like Arkham Asylum. I was also hoping to see a better villain in the trailer, you'd think they'd show Green Goblin or someone to hype people up, rather than Mister Negative

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>>384911020
>underpowered Spider-Man
>Batman-tier gadget belt
>environmental takedowns
>stops a falling crane and helicopter back to back

>>384910045
>Hope I can change costumes from minute 1

of course they are gonna let you change your costume.
I hope youre ready to pay jewgold for it though.

>>384911020
>>Arkham gameplay

Spiderman 2 ganeplay was like this, kys

they'll have to start by making Miles a character that isn't annoying as hell, and they've already fucked up if they really cast Yuri Lowenthal

>>384909839
that run animation looks like it's from ME:A

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>>384911278
If you'd read the comics then you'd know that Spiderman is capable of taking out an entire warehouse full of armed thugs in seconds
He doesn't fuck around in the rafters leaping from one beam to the next

>>384911020
>felicia
>bound
>running mascara
I JUST finished, don't make me go again.

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>>384911532
>Spiderman 2 ganeplay was like this

>>384910037
Okay, now if a QTE is so bad, how would you rather have Spiderman stop a giant falling crane? Maybe do it in a cutscene, taking all interaction away from the player? I mean, you could argue to not put it on rails, allow for a little more freedom in move about it while you shot web somewhere on the thing and hope it stops. Most would probably call that a glorified qte I feel.

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>>384911781
You dirty boy

>>384911875
>Start scene on top of crane
>Spidey sense slows time
>Web around it and connect it to buildings in the short period

So hard.

>>384911875
Does it have to be a rollercoaster type thing though? It's designed to lure in the normies by looking like your average capeshit flick.

>>384908791
Man, I can honestly look over a lot of the cinematic bullshit if they nail down the web swinging.

>>384911868
Not a argument

>>384911756
You're right, the game should have been a monsou
kys nigger

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>>384912069
>Spidey sense slows time

>>384911756
>an entire warehouse full of armed thugs in seconds
No wonder comic books became so boring.

>>384908791
>Game
Nice meme

>>384911875
Don't put a falling crane in the game in the first place

>>384912316
For the sense of gameplay and the scene, yes. It's not canonical but it's the only way to move Spidey at Spidey speeds in real time.

>>384912329
Pretty sure the atrocious writing did that.

>>384911532
No it wasn't you retard.

>>384912069
>>Web around it and connect it to buildings in the short period
I like you say this like its easy to do, show me a previous Spider-Man game where its easy to wrap around a large falling object

>>384912421
you sound like a fucking fool

Everything they showed off is scripted as fuck so I don't know what the actual game is like and Miles is a fucking awful character that I hope will have minimal involvement in the game, but knowing nu-insomniac I know he'll be a major character and just as awful as the he is in the comics.

I'm want to see what the proper gameplay is like.

>>384911875
Either don't have the scene, make it a lot shorter, or change it so it's based on the gameplay mechanics instead of just pressing X.

Game looks fantastic, easily going to be GOTY next year.

>>384912464
>enemy makes a large telegraphed attack and a sign comes up above your head to counter it

Same thing

Things that will make me buy this game

1) GOOD SLINGING
2) Ability to throw a car or web someone to a building whenever the fuck I want
3) Costumes

>>384912598
Keep sucking that Sony dick, kid.

qte movie with shit villains

>can't bring an enemy up to the top of a building and piledrive him into the ground because no-fun-allowed-man will start a forced animation of spiderman saving him
dropped

>>384912968
Really?

>>384913054
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/14/15803002/spider-man-ps4-sony-developer-insomniac-games-marvel-e3-2017
how dare you try to have fun in our super serious story you piece of shit

>>384912768
Please tell me you're being stupid on purpose.

>>384911756
>If you'd read the comics
I do, I just read the good ones.

>>384913175
Not a argument

>>384908791
I'm a hardcore spidey fan and sonybro so I'll probably preorder.

>>384912069
It could work but I can only see it being done poorly. That aside, I feel like that is just another qte except with the thumb stick.

>>384912081
That was my second suggestion, and like you said, it will probably sell better with this scene in it.

>>384912414
Okay, so what other big amazing feat would you have spidey do that you could reasonably do outside of any variation of a qte?

>>384912653
Same as above, it looked to be like around 30s long, and from what I can tell most of the gameplay is X to shot web, granted you can be a little more creative when you don't have to stop a giant piece of machinery from falling on pedestrians.

>>384913137
>Marvel wouldn't allow that
>The world wouldn't allow that

Sounds like Disney wouldn't allow that.

muh batman muh qte muh no killing every fucking thread you are some fucking idiots

Now that the west has proven they can't make a single good action game anymore, where do we go from here?

>>384913476
They're viable complaints. You must be a SonyShillShitEater

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>>384913461
yea he kills all the time in the comics

If a game has QTEs then it shouldnt be sold at $60

>>384913750
This is a videogame. It's supposed to be fun. Who's to say they would die if they were tossed from the skyscraper anyway? Just have their model disappear like the good ol days

>>384913681
>They're viable complaints
when they said the only qte will be only in big moments like the trailer but no you will ignore everything and shitpost on /v/

>people complain about BamHam's combat because batman is a human tank and shouldn't be able to flip around like a ballerina while beating the shit out of 10 guys at once and having psychic reflexes to know when someone is swinging at him from behind
>use a similar system with a superhero whose powers allow him to flip around like a ballerina while beating the shit out of 10 guys at once and sense incoming danger
>people still complain

I don't get it, BamHam combat is perfect for Spiderman.

>>384913937
>This is a videogame
you sound like a fucking edge master

>>384914034
you sound like a retard devoid of any personality aside from using buzzwords and epic memes

>>384913964
>Spider-Man doesn't wait around for hand-to-hand combat. You refuted your own point in your post.

>>384914034
You sound like a hoe

>>384913937
>This is a videogame. It's supposed to be fun.
No, this is a Sony published videogame.

not on pc so it's shit

>>384914198
go play gta 5 and use a spiderman mod if you want to kill random guys on the street the perfect game for you

>>384913461
>Disney won't allow it.

The thing is, Disney doesn't give a rats ass what Marvel does, the only thing that was there fault was the cancellation of Spectacular Spider-Man, other than that every other Marvel meddling was Marvel's fault.

>>384914268
I literally never said that. Would you prefer a FPS/TPS Spiderman game where the only combat was shooting webs at people before they get a chance to swing at you?

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>>384914356

>>384914418
>random guys
You probably want to ban guns.

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>>384911781

>>384908791
Looks really good but I find it really insulting that they showed a tiny bit at e3 in 2016 and then slightly more e3 2017. Their better be shit tons of game play at psx and it still doesn't have a proper release date. I'm hype but also pissed off.

>>384914503
Not him, but sign me up.

>>384914503
I'd prefer an action game where I can swing in and do whatever the fuck I want which is what makes Spider-man so great.

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>>384914912
you can do that in this game you stupid fuck

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>>384911516
>I hope youre ready to pay jewgold for it though.
>tfw you paid Rocksteady jewgold so you wouldn't have to look at those hideous Robin & Nightwing defaults

A feeling I know all too well.

>>384914628
Does she do hc stuff or is she a waste of time?

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>>384908791

>Upcoming Spiderman game
>Protag is that nigger Miles Morales
>Upcoming Batman game
>Protag is that angst faggot Damien Wayne

About time the games caught up with comics in terms of shittiness.

>>384915087
Waste of time. A britbong did porn dressed as Black Cat, forget her name now. Rose something?

>>384915145
>About time the games caught up with comics in terms of shittiness.
They did that when Arkham exploded and every single cape game became the same pasteurized garbage.

>>384915087
>>384915175

Sadly the only good black cat is I think in the Superman/Spider-man xxx parody, there's a semi decent rooftop scene between pete and felicia.

>>384914991
No you can't.

If I want to hurl guys off a building, this game does not let me.

I would prefer a 'you failed the mission' pop up but still letting me go against their wishes instead of this forced behavior meme,

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>>384915145

>>384915472
fuck off edge master

>>384913949
The shitty QTE's aren't the only complaint you faggot sony shill.

>>384915472
>I would prefer a 'you failed the mission' pop up
Look at this gay ass nerd wanting responsibility as a mechanic in a Spider-man game. What's next, web cartridge management? Taking photos for the Bugle?

>>384915792
Why not?

>>384915758
yea whats the other one muh batman

>>384913964
Spiderman is suited to InFAMOUS type gameplay IMO. I don't know why Sony didn't give this game to Sucker Punch.

>>384913964
It was never about fitting the character or not, you tool. Bamham combat is ass. You completely dictate the pace of the fights, you're never pressured, you can always escape from anything no matter what, you just slide to whatever enemy you want by throwing a punch, positioning doesn't matter, timing doesn't matter, you don't get punished for mashing, it's garbage. Bamham being this critically acclaimed behemoth is awfully telling of the 360 audience.

>>384916637
I've never played but I asked my friend who has played all of the ps3 ones what he thought of the idea and he agrees.
You should work for Sony anon.

>>384917083
>escape from anything no matter what
So spiderman should magically forget how to swing away if he's getting his ass kicked?
>slide to any enemy by throwing a punch
Kinda like how Spiderman is incredibly acrobatic and could easily do that?
>positioning doesn't matter
Name literally one action game where positioning matters. It's not a fucking fighting game or a cover shooter.
>timing doesn't matter
Except you lose your combo and get hit if you mistime a counter or a certain move
>don't get punished for mashing
You literally can't beat a group of enemies by only pressing one button
>360 audience
BamHam has been multiplat since release, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>384917083
bamham combat isn't meant to be super challenging, the challenge is trying to get a perfect combo, no hits, variety points, etc, because you have to juggle so many different enemy types who you need to use different tactics on, selection and timing of your gadgets, etc, that's why people say it "makes you feel like batman" ie empowered or whatever

the spiderman game seems like it has a spider-sense dodge button, not a counter button like bamham, and it definitely makes sense for spider-man to be flying all around the place, whereas bamham's animations and distance closing attacks look fucking awful

>>384908791
it'll be mediocre trash like Amazing Spiderman 1 and 2.
don't know why you'd expect different.

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>>384917865

>>384918037
>because you have to juggle so many different enemy types who you need to use different tactics on


THIS IS WHAT BAMHAM DEFENDERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>384917865
Toribash

>>384918110
>le smug anime reaction face.pngpeg

Whatever you say dude

>>384911875
>Maybe do it in a cutscene, taking all interaction away from the player?
I would rather have no interaction at all than token QTEs. But a decent video game designer would figure it out and either have the sequence be actually interactive, or get of it and replace it with something else that is.

QTEs would be like a movie that didn't have enough money for a big spectacle setpiece, so they cut to a guy standing somewhere else describing all the cool shit happening off-screen.

>>384918297
Assuming that's in response to the positioning comment, both players spawn in the same respective positions in Toribash. It's also turn based, not an action game.

>>384918205
i wasn't defending it, the criticisms against it are valid, but bamham has a bunch of different enemy types, like ninjas, guys with stun rods, knives, shields, firearms, and you have to manage these problems constantly because any enemy can pick up these weapons. the way batman counters this is by getting a 5x combo, which gives him a takedown option, which you can use either to take down 1 enemy or disable 1 weapon

>>384911020
>>384911756
Spiderman's entire appeal is that he was always on the lower end of the power scale. Thugs with guns were actually a big threat to him, and his villains were all pretty small time and localized. The comics always went to shit when he got inflated and stopped being the guy who handled petty crimes.

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>>384913137
>Spider-man game won't let you kill innocents
That's literally a huge part of the Spider-man experience though, wtf Marvel

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The main selling point for me is going to be how fucking good free-roam swinging feels. If I can do Tony Hawk combos from one end of the city to the other, with a great sense of momentum and maybe even some sort of optional collectables or tricks to pull off on the way, I'm in.

If it's really underweight and hasn't progressed since Spider-Man 2 or Ultimate Spider-Man because they wanted to focus on these sort of set pieces, then I'll skip it. I want to be able to feel like I AM Spider-man, not that I'm watching Spider-man.

>>384917865
>So spiderman should magically forget how to swing away if he's getting his ass kicked?
It's not about the fucking character, it's the mechanic itself. It's the huge forgiving window and iframes. It's the complete disregard for the direction I'm dodging to because none of it fucking matters, the game just lets me gets away with everything.

>Kinda like how Spiderman is incredibly acrobatic and could easily do that?
Could he do that? Yeah. Does he do that? No. He propels mostly through webbing. Is it good from a game design standpoint? Fuck no.

>Name literally one action game where positioning matters.
Any decent action game will fuck you up for dodging at random. Of course, it's really hard to punish mindless dodging when it's strictly contextual, leaves you invulnerable the whole way and has little recovery frames to speak of, which is why this whole thing is flawed at its core.

>You literally can't beat a group of enemies by only pressing one button
Yes, you can.

>BamHam has been multiplat since release, what the fuck are you talking about?
Asylum blew up on the 360, back when PS3 had disgraceful sales.

>>384918901
>Thugs with guns were actually a big threat to him
Spider sense. Peter was always above thugs, he remained a urban hero because he failed his uncle.

I agree that a universe with hundreds of super-powered beings with a very wide range of "power levels" is a terrible concept though.

>>384908791
It looks like the spiderman game I would have wanted like 10 years ago but now I don't care

>>384919846
>Yes, you can.

Confirmed for never having played any Arkham game and still considering himself an expert on the topic.

>>384919846
I mean in the sense that if he did take a bullet, he would be dead. He has to treat street thugs as a serious threat, I don't mean he is on the same level of street thugs.

>>384920113
Fine, you press the contextual dodge button too. Whoopdeedoo, a whole two buttons. Not like the amount of buttons even matter as long as it serves the gameplay's complexity, but whatever.

Pizza shop theme/10

>>384918901
>The comics always went to shit when he got inflated and stopped being the guy who handled petty crimes.
So since his second appearance?

>>384908791
Did anything new get revealed at SDCC?

>>384919276
>that fucking page
It still baffles me someone thought this was ok, by that logic people would be dying on bungee jump all the time.

>>384921809
Most of his supervillains are petty criminals, though. Vulture, Sandman and Electro are literally just thieves with superpowers. It was never about world-ending threats and shit.

>>384920681
>forgetting the knife, shield, stun stick, firearm and armored enemies, all of which require you to approach them differently, and most of them requiring a combo / stun / dodge.
You just haven't played the games and its very obvious. Im not going to tell you the games are complex, or even especially challenging, but theres more to it than what you're claiming.

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>>384923725
>swinging
>letting go of web
>spider-man doesn't do any cool airtime majestic momentum body movements
>falling with downward momentum right towards a wall
>suddenly running up wall
why

>>384924975

momentum is anti-fun

just like in Sunset Overdrive

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>>384924975
>why doesnt a superhero follow the laws of physics

>>384925171
I really liked that game

>>384921424
/thread

>>384922173
are you fucking retarded?
Tell me, are you?

Go tie a rope around your waste and jump off a bridge. Tell us all how it goes.

>>384928089
FUCKING HOMOPHONES

>>384908791
>trailer starts
>bam ham gameplay with xray vision
>QTE combat and setpieces
They should have gotten Treyarch to make this.

>>384928089
>Go tie a rope around your waste and jump off a bridge.
Why would I leave a dangling turd on a bridge before committing suicide?

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>>384928089
I'm going to assume you meant waist, which is not what is pictured on that page anyway.
Pic related.

>>384913414
Honest to God I think you work for the devs.

>>384913137
Meanwhile, in Spider-Man 2, you got extra points for picking the highest point to do a spinning piledriver from.

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>>384908791
>gameplay videos only focus on splinter cell stealth and QTEs
>little to no gameplay footage involving sustained webswinging through NYC

we're not getting SM2 swinging back, are we?

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>>384928289
>They should have gotten Treyarch to make this.

>>384928720
it doesn't matter what I meant.

Bungee cords are built specifically for stretching, absorbing the energy. Clearly, spidey's webs don't work the same as bungee cords you FUCKING RETARD.

>>384928720
>>384928297
Even then, you massively brain dead mother fuckers, I pointed out mistake instantly, >>384928171

>>384929285
have you not played the batman games?

>>384930208
>clearly spidey's webs don't work the same as bungee cords
Except they are absurdly elastic aswe saw in hundreds and hundreds of instances. Face it, the writers were lazy and came up with a Injustice level of stupid way to kill her.