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Rate my starter PC build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NgLHTH
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>>384900810

good~desu
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>supernova NEX
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>1050ti
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>>384900810
Get 2x4gb RAM instead of 1x8gb so it's dual-channel.
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>>384900810
>1060
>mini 4gb

might as well hang urself lads
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>>384900810
>AMD CPU
jeopardizes the whole build. Otherwise, it's fine.
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>>384900810
It's pretty shit, but you'll be able to play pretty much everything in 1080p for at least a few years.

Also
>650w
What the fuck are you doing, nigger? That thing will probably need only 300w
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>>384904445
>That thing will probably need only 300w
did you see his CPU?
AMD trash are power hungry and run hot to boot.

The GPU is actually damn good for a low-power, low price GPU.
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Alright except for the PSU
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>>384904596
Either way it's still way too overkill for a build like that.
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>>384900810
>not using ryzen
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>>384900810
You can do way better with that budget. Switch out the mobo and CPU for a Ryzen setup, and get a cheaper PSU. That one's overkill.
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>make new pc
>get a 1070
>make the mistake and get a i5 7400

I should have gotten a better CPU while I was at it.

>>384904375
>>384904596

That CPU is actually really good for its price. One of the best purchases I made a few years ago.
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>>384905292
What's wrong with that CPU?
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>>384900810
>Buying a fx processor
>In 2017
>With Ryzen out
>Using a am3+ for anything other than phenom processors

shiggydiggy
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>>384905292
>That CPU is actually really good for its price.
it's OK and might work just fine for mundane daily tasks and even gaming. But AMD's processors are notorious for their shitty reliability and lack of various, finer technological features.

You really need to make sure that your cooler's sufficient enough & keep the innards clean, if you use AMD's components.
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Get ryzen. You have no upgrade paths with an 8320.
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>>384905925

Stay butthurt about ryzen, Intel fanboy desu.
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>>384906026
it's not fanboyism when the alternatives are literally dangerous AND inferior.
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>>384906308
You really should research more, ryzen outclasses most Intel i7 processors. Ryzen 1700x and 1800x are better than 7700k and 6850k respectively.
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>>384906308
Have you been living under a rock? Ryzen is better than Kaby Lake in price/performance and isn't a housefire like Bulldozer
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>>384906308
You are thinking about FX proccesors, which are completely different than Ryzen, Ryzen is a completely different architecture.

Also, Intel is the new housefire king.
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>>384900810
>FX CPU
Even if this is a bait thread, please don't
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>>384900810
>AMD FX
Fucking why?
Just do a Pentium G4560+1050ti and you are set. G4560 is also only like $80 and is hyperthreaded and far newer than the FX.
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>>384905586

It will work for any game out there except CPU heavy games, like the Total War series. Even on the lowest settings I can only squeeze out around 45 frames on Warhammer in a 20vs20 unit battle during engagement.

>>384905925

Nah, the price was right. My only gripe with it was that it had a Overdrive function which was a pain in the ass. It basically make your games microstutter every 20 seconds for a few seconds while it switched cores or something-something. Could only be disabled in BIOS, but that depended entirely if your motherboard was modern or not. I had a shitty one and couldn't disable it because the option was literally not there, so every single day (because the options were never saved) I had to start up a AMD program and siable the function externally.
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>>384900810
Good
Pretty solid but it can run hitman with highest specs?
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>>384905586
4 threads at a low clockspeed
A Ryzen 1400 would have been much better than the i5 7400
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>>384905925
>But AMD's processors are notorious for their shitty reliability and lack of various, finer technological features.
This is just wrong
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>>384907534
No, it is just right and true.
You can say and think anything about their GPUs, but AMD processors have always been absolute trash, an automatic cruise controls for problems.

Also, ask any and all 3D modelers, Photoshoppers, etc, why their professional work machine has an Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU, and you will get the same answers: they not only work better, but they also have features AMD lacks.
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>>384907957
Ryzen has every feature inferno lake also has
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>>384908332
>Ryzen has every feature inferno lake also has
I somehow doubt that, unless Intel has made its tech open source.
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>>384900810
>AMD CPU that isn't Ryzen or Threadripper
>1050ti
>DDR3 RAM in the year 2017
Re-evaluate yourself senpai
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>>384908463
Both support all modern instruction sets (with the exception of low end kaby lake lacking AVX-2)
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>>384906890
>Overdrive function
Overdrive was the name of the overclocking software
You mean core parking or something?
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>>384900810
change it.
get a mobo that can use DDR4 ram, and get that instead of DDR3, you will also have to make sure the cpu will still be compatible and possibly switch that out as well.
otherwise you're just going to be buying tech that will soon be outdated and obsolete.
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>>384908783

No, it wasn't core parking, but I had to disable that shit too because of microstutter. But you're correct in that I got the name wrong; TurboCore was what I was thinking of. Cool feature in concept, but not so much in practice.
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>>384909067
What kind of board doesn't allow you to disable the turbo boost?
But at least they got it right with Ryzen
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>>384907957
You're underage, AMD was destroying Intel performance wise pre-Nehalem and made AMD64.
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>>384900810
I'd spring for 16gb of ram. A lot of games are starting to push past the 7.5gb realm now that 64-bit windows is required.
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>>384909041
>get a mobo that can use DDR4 ram, and get that instead of DDR3,


essentially pointless but i guess you might as well
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>>384900810
>AMD
closed the page immediately
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>>384909694
Nope. I'm literally 30 years old now, and been actively gaming on PC since late 90s. I built my first, own gaming machine at age of 15.

Anyone I know that has used AMD compontents has had their machines blow up sooner or later, while my old Intel and Nvidia components and entire PCs still work and even serve in daily activities this very day.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JXPYzM

How is this? It says it's 400 something dollars but it's closer to $600 with the card.
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>>384909521

I honest to god cannot remember what model it was, but I had the latest version and had updated anything that could be updated on the PC, and despite that there was no option in BIOS to disable it. You could change the usual stuff but nowhere, NOWHERE was an option for TurboCore. So yeah, every day since I had to use the Overdrive program to disable it, which made me paranoid as hell. Changing a CPU function in Windows is begging for trouble. And I had to do it every day because the program never saved my settings after the PC restarted, no matter what I did.

When the card actually worked it was its asking price but goddamn, I'm never getting a AMD CPU again.
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>>384910260
That's pretty good, but you might wanna switch the graphics card for a GTX 1060 if you do any sort of emulation or are interested in it.
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>>384909694

AMD has never been a good purchase
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>>384910260
Aren't 480s difficult to get because of all the mining shit going on?
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>>384910429
I'm building it around the idea of running CEMU well, and at maximum I want it to run overwatch or doom at a good pace. Will that work out for me with this?
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>>384910529
As a rule of thumb, AMD and emulation don't go well together. I don't think CEMU even officially supports AMD cards at the moment and you have to do a dozen different workarounds just to get a similar experience to an Nvidia card, if even possible.
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>>384910483
What mining shit?
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>>384910452
Don't remember this piece of shit?
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>>384910660
Have you been living under a rock?
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>>384905586
Save a bit more and get an i3-6300.
Not only is it faster but it the socket has many upgrade choices compare to the AM3
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>Half decade old CPU
Try again

I wouldn't even go for Ryzen, I seriously thought about it but I play a lot of older single threaded games, and its not like a 7700k is going to bottleneck anything. Still waiting for the 6core i5.
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>650w PSU
>for a Piledriver CPU and low-tier GPU

I can tell without checking that this is overkill, even if you overclock
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>>384910647
Why doesn't PCPartPicker have Nvidia options? I can't seem to find them.
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>>384910260
Get dual channel RAM and an ATX board (MSI tomahawk for example)
And a better PSU like the Antec VP (still pretty cheap)
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>>384910786
Should have quoted the part, but I meant the i5.
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>>384910647
Only CEMU has problems with Radeon in my experience
Other emulators are fine
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>>384910813
I have no idea. Never used the site because I don't live in the US.
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>>384910647
http://cemu.info
They don't support intel but AMD runs well
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>>384910660
Oh anon.
http://www.pcgamer.com/blame-cryptocurrency-miners-for-scarcity-of-radeon-rx-580-and-570-cards/

http://cryptomining-blog.com/8746-shortage-of-amd-radeon-rx-500-series-of-gpus-on-the-market/

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/05/digital-currency-mining-is-boosting-demand-for-amds-graphics-cards.html
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>>384910647

AMD GPUs work fine with emulators. CEMU is just hot garbage.

You're thinking of AMD CPUs. My 6350 struggles to run Dolphin.
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>>384911052
>My 6350 struggles to run Dolphin.
Try the DX12 mode
No slowdowns on my 8350 with plenty of headroom
It also struggled before that
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>>384910209
Had about an equal amount of intel and AMD
All except for 2 intel machines died
All AMD ones are still fine
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Oh shit ok I just realized the CPU doesn't matter with CEMU. So if I bought an AMD video card/GPU but a non AMD CPU would they be compatible?
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>>384911357
>So if I bought an AMD video card/GPU but a non AMD CPU would they be compatible?
Yes, but why would you do that when ryzen exists?
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>>384911480
So is the Ryzen in the build I posted good?
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>>384900810
>1050ti
You might as well get a 680 or a 770 or something for a better price to performance ratio at that tier.

Also, OP, you picked the ABSOLUTE WORST time to build a gayman PC. Miners just drove up GPU prices. 1070s cost more than 1080s did 2 weeks ago. 1080s and 1080ti are almost a hundred bucks over their MSRP, 1060s and 1070s are closer to 200. 1050ti is overpriced by at least $50.

It won't go back up anytime soon, so you're better off waiting until Cyber Monday and picking up a grafix card that's not shit.
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>>384900810
Here is a better deal get a refurbished dell optiplex and slap a new GTX 1050Ti inside.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/472620/OptiPlex_9010_Desktop_Computer_Off_Lease_Refurbished
It will be enough for 1080p.
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Get 16GB of RAM.

I upgraded my ram last week and noticed some problems in games vanish. I thought 8GB was fine but turns out some games were having performance issues because 8GB wasn't enough.
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>>384905292
>get a 1070
Might as well spend an extra $40 and get a 1080.
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>>384911593
What build?
That one? >>384910260
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JXPYzM

Ok what do I do here? My goal is to run BOTW on CEMU smoothly, and at a maximum I'll be playing games like Overwatch or Doom at mediocre settings. Will this cut it? What would you change? Reminder, Intel GPU won't work with CEMU.
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>>384900810
Careful on that case, not too much air flow.
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>>384912518
The thing Cemu wants most is high single core performance. 3.2ghz isn't really going to cut it. I'd recommend getting the 1500x if you don't want to overclock or stick with the 1400 if you're fine with overclocking.
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>>384912518
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vRjb9W
More expensive, but it shouldnt break the budget
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>>384900810
>zotac
>2 year warranty
buy another brand with 3 year warranty, if its less than 3 years its probably shit.
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>>384913023
Is 3.5 ghz really going to make a difference over 3.2? I'm not planning on over clocking at all.
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>>384913257
Not a lot and CEMU should still run fine
And overclocking is easy if you really need it
But the 1500x also has more cache which also increases performance a bit
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>>384913403
So my current build with the 1500x will live up to my needs for at least a year?
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>>384913257
It really does, especially considering most emulators don't use more than two cores, especially Cemu and PCSX2. If you can somehow snag an i7 4790k then go for that as it's arguably the best CPU for emulation. It has a stock clock of 4Ghz and can easily reach 5Ghz provided you want to overclock down the line. Might be a bit expensive though.
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>>384912518
>ryzen 1400
if you're not overclocking that then don't bother just get an i5 7600k or something
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>>384913023
>>384912518
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
You can always get an i3-7350k and upgrade down the line
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>>384913554
I'd like to focus on the higher end stuff more, like playing Doom/OW well. This will work?
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>>384904164
this
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Can someone build my lazy pathetic ass a rig that can run games on high at 144hz, 1440p for for the lowest amount of money? Fucking miners, man.
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>>384913748
Yes it's great but games like DOOM heavily rely on having a good graphics card. RX 480 and an i7 4790k means you can get over 110 fps on max settings, 1440p resolution. It might be hard to find an RX 480 but if you manage to get one, know that AMD cards perform better in DOOM because of Vulkan technology. The same goes for many games like Hitman. Overwatch should be fine on any hardware you throw at it. Also I really recommend you get 2x4GB instead of a single 8GB stick because you may stutter a lot with single-channel RAM. That happened to be until I upgraded to 2x8GB.
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>>384912518
Go with this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c9xWqk

Don't go without a SSD in 2017.
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>>384914007
Ok that's great to hear. So my build is fulfilling for a low price which is good. How hard should it be to find a 480/580?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8Dzhq
Rate my build /v/
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>>384913956
No.
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>>384914131
>RX 560
>>384912518
ryzen has shit single core performance, get an i5 6600k
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>>384914315
Eh, at least I got a (You). Maybe I can use it to buy a pc.
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>>384914308
shit/10
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>>384914282
Very hard, honestly building a PC right now is really fucking difficult because of miners. I would recommend either buying an overpriced RX 580 if you want to build now or just waiting until the mining craze dies and buying a card from one of the manufacturers. You could also buy it for cheap as fuck used once that happens but the GPU fan will more than likely fail on you after a few months because of the stress put on it by miners.
>>384914308
What games are you planning on playing? Are you going to upgrade that CPU in the future? If not then that PSU is overkill. i3 6100 is a very solid CPU though I would recommend getting the Pentium G4560 for a bit cheaper as they're basically the same when it comes to game performance.
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FUCKING ASSCOIN MINERS STOP BUYING UP CARDS FOR YOUR SHITTY PENNY PROFIT ELECTRICITY WASTING HOME JOBS AND LET THE PRICES ON GPUS COME BACK TO A REALISTIC LEVEL

I'M NOT PAYING $500 FOR A 580X OR 1060

MY R9 290 IS DIENG AND I CAN'T REPLACE IT WITH ANYTHING COMPARABLE BECAUSE OF YOU FUCKS

FUCK YOU LEAVE MY HOBBY ALONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>384914831
Im planning to order everything in the last week of September, do you think this will still be going on in 3 months?
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>>384914927
Ethereum is dropping pretty fast so I don't imagine it will be around for longer. You should buy all the parts you need on Cyber Monday for the best deals.
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>>384915038
I'm not sure I'd wait that long, but I could buy upgrades for it then.
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>>384913526
3 years at least I'd say if youre willing to drop settings a bit and play at 1080p
The 1500x is nice, but if it still fits the budget the 1600 would be a good idea
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>>384915867
The 1500x says it has 3.5GHZ while the 1600 is only 3.2GHZ but has 6 corpse while the 1500x has 4. What does this mean and what are the pros and cons for my needs?
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>>384916312
Older games and many indie titles won't make use of those extra threads, but new AAA titles will see a decent increase in performance
And other tasks like 7-zip or encoding also benefit from it
And the 1600 can easily be overclocked to 3.6Ghz with the stock cooler
Take a look at those ugly graphs of benchmarks someone made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKciUhE7HdM
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>>384916312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=759l6mwtbJA
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>tfw my gpu is causing artifacts and freezes
>During the worst possible time to buy a gpu in years, maybe ever

It's been a fun ride lads but once reseating it stops working I'll be stuck for months until something changes because I just can't pay $500 for a fucking $200 card. Should I just try and unload my dieng card to a eBay miner before it goes?
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>>384900810
Ok but it's literally not upgradeable
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>>384916658
I don't plan on overclocking though, and streaming for fun may be an option. Is the 1600x a thing, or is it just another name for the 1600?
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>>384917768
>streaming for fun may be an option
don't get the ryzen 5 1500x then
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>>384917768
1600x just has higher clockspeed and no boxed cooler
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>>384914843
>they're using the cards to make a living
>you're using them to play video games yet you're somehow more entitled to them
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>>384900810
>amd
LOL, you'll have a good summer in hell
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>>384917145
I wonder how much PS4 and Switch sales have gone up recently, now that a decent video card costs as much as both of them combined.
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>>384917850
So I should just get the 1600?
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>>384917850
What would the reasoning be for getting a 1600 standard over a 1500x when it comes to streaming
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>>384918139
Yes
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>>384919584
But what's the reasoning?
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>>384920067
More cores and streaming benefits a lot from more cores
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>>384920206
How does it benefit? Just better/less stuttering?
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>>384904747
Not him, but when I was shopping for a new power supply because (i thought) mine had went, I ended up getting a 750w because it was on sale at the same price as the replacement 500w I was eyeing, and having a power supply capable of handling a bigger load isn't a bad thing since it doesn't use every last watt it has unless your rig needs it so it's not like it'll fry it.
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get a ryzen. Also retards will still fall into the mining is profitable meme.
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>>384900810
>1050ti
>not using g4560 for ultimate budget combo
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>>384900810

>>>/g/pcbg
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>>384920347
Yeah it's a good idea to have a sizeable amount of headroom, but getting double what is needed is not a good investment. A 500w PSU will handle pretty much anything thrown at it, even a high-end combo like an i7 and 1080.
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>>384915110
>mini-atx mobo just sitting out in the open with a USB plugged into it
lmao
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>>384911962
>You might as well get a 680 or a 770 or something for a better price to performance ratio at that tier.
1050ti totally BTFO both of those. Newer tech, lower power usage and temps, and even better performance.
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>>384900810
>FX
Jesus Christ no. Get fucking anything else. AM3+ is a dead platform.
1050 Ti is pretty shit too, but the better stuff is selling for crazy prices right now.

>>384911962
>recommending fucking Kepler
Are you trying to make OP build the worst PC possible?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrvmTH

This is my build with edits. So here what's up and has been made clear to me. I don not plan on overclocking, I'd like to be able to stream for fun, CEMU is probably the most intensive emulation I'll be doing, and overwatch/doom/maybe GTA will be the most intensive gaming overall. Breddy Gud?
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>>384922091
As said earlier, AMD sucks with CEMU.
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>>384922091
Get faster dual channel ram. Can you find a 480 at a reasonable price?
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>>384922385
But it's compatible, unlike intel.
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>>384922052
>1050 Ti is pretty shit too
running Witcher 3 on Ultra settings on 1080p at > 30fps is "shit" now?
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>>384922657
No, you got it backwards.
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>>384922491
The ram is more of a stand in there. A great pal is willing to give me some DDR4 2x4GB.
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>>384922665
>Brand new card can't run a 2-year-old game on max settings with 60fps
Yeah, it's fucking shit.
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>>384922751
CEMU.info
It specifically says that intel is incompatible.
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>>384923137
It says Intel GPU. If you're too much of a retard to know the difference between a GPU and CPU then I strongly suggest you stop trying to build your own computer.
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>>384923020
brand new, low-end, low-power card, that requires no external power connectors, meaning it can run efficiently on goddamn 250W 80+ bronze PSUs, you mean.

But I know, I know... you console peasant's are not exactly well aware of this hard "master race" master race magic.
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>>384923253
You didn't specify. You said that AMD doesn't work, not AMD CPU.
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>>384923616
What is there to specify? Were you planning on using the motherfucking integrated GPU or what?
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>>384900810
>8350

STOP

get ryzen 1600 when it goes on sale
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I was gonna get an i5-7600k, would the i7-6700k be better?
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>>384923745
No
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Is a budget pc like this worth it at 400$, or would a ps4 be a better option?
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>>384910209
>my dad's uncle's cousin built an AND machine and a single component failed(eventually) after many many years of use therefore AMD is bad

AMD is not bad. If they get outperformed by components that cost 50%-150% more, it does not mean that there is not a place for them in the market. AMD has always performed well enough fornita price point and have proven to be reliable and durable. If you sent this it's because you are a fucking shill, on top of being an idiot.

>inb4 AMDfag
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>>384924663
>750ti

PS4 no question.
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>>384922665
>30fps
Yeah, it's shit. TW3 feels terrible at 30fps. My old GTX 770 could do that and it was garbage. If it wasn't for miners fucking up everything nobody would even consider the 1050 Ti when the 1060 3GB and 570 exist.
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>>384914843
1060 6gb is 350 us dollaroos in Yuropoor
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>>384924663
Easily. Don't let Sonybros claim otherwise.
You can always upgrade later on, but that thing an still run anything at 1080p/high-ish settings at 60fps
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>>384926454
Nobody is forcing you to use Ultra settings, ya dickweed. "Just" high settings look practically the same, and runs almost 50% faster.

Not to mention consoles can't even keep up 30fps at 900p and med-low visual quality.
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