Hollow knight thread

>>384895735
>tfw you live in the same city as the devs.

Feelsgoodman.jpg

hornet a shit seer best girl

I pirated it. Its an ok game.

I guess I will will buy it when the other two characters are out

>>384895735
>gif
>2D Soulsborne.
I love the game, but kill your self.

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Pirated during shill threads, bought during Steam Sale. Just about to reinstall for a second runthrough and maybe do the CoF.

This been fixed yet?

I like the game for the gameplay and visuals, but I seriously couldn't give less of a shit about the story. The second time I encountered Hornet she said something that made it seem like I had come across some plot-important revelation already, but I couldn't remember anything that any of the characters had done or said beforehand. Should have just stuck with the characters saying things on personal levels (like all the shopkeepers) than try to force some Soulsborne-flavored cryptic riddle bullshit in everything else.

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beating Trial of Fools and Radiance took years off my life, and then I find out I'm still missing 1% somehow. what the fuck could it be? I have every charm, charm notch, mask/soul upgrade, 2608 essence etc

>>384898294
>actually struggling with anything in this game

>>384898568
took me 4-5 tries to beat them, which is almost too much difficulty for me. I'm used to nintendo games

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>>384898294
maybe a spirit trees?
maybe a ghost boss?

>>384895735
>tfw you like this game and you play it and it's fun
feels good

>>384898294
do you have the abyss shriek, or all the black magic?

>>384898568
>wow people have different skill levels
>fuck them

>>384899164
I would rather literally kill myself than be bad at video games

i fucking loved this game. every second of it.

i've played all the 2D metroid games but I hear Castlevania is like this too? Any recommendations regarding going through those?

also how is the new castlevania anime?

>>384899367
I would rather literally kill myself than care this much about vidya.

>>384899135
shit that's it, I'm missing a spell upgrade. I completely forgot to use the elegant key like 20 hours ago

yeah okay but what the absolute fuck does the mushroom ending mean

>>384899551
NEW CYCLE

>>384899409
Symphony of the Night
then play whatever game you want.

great game so far.

>>384895735
>Soulsborne
never played these, but HK doesn't seem that hard. but then again i don't know how far i am.

>>384900889
Yeah but neither are Soulsbornes.

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>Ideal
>Enemies try to walk into you instead of attacking
>Damage on contact instead of on attack
Lol, nope.

>>384900889
For me HK was just as challenging as souls games.
It starts quite easy, but once you get to the mantis enemies it does increase in difficulty.

>>384901349
>i played 30 minutes of the game and think my opinion means anything.

>>384901493
Damage on contact is fundamentally flawed and lazy game design.

>>384895735
>soulbourne
Literally nothing like a soulsbourne. I like Hollow Knight, but a 2D Soulsbourne would be more like Momodora IV.

>>384901561
>lazy
it actually requires more work than not having it.

>>384901561
literally git gud

>>384901561

shitter

>>384899367

You really should. No need to hide behind vidya, just do it.

Hollow Knight isn't fun to replay. It's too linear, there are way too many roadblocks in the game with abilities and items that you absolutely must have to progress. I can't be bothered to finish a steel hardcore run or whatever they call it since I'm bored to tears going through the game the exact same way as I did the first playthrough.

The game would've been much much better had you been given the freedom to tackle areas out of order.

>>384895735
Fuck off shill1

>>384901562
Anon this is the standard Hollow Knight bait thread.

>>384902225
nigga watch a speedrun

>>384899367
You have some problem mate.

Is this game really as visually repetitive and boring as the screenshots indicate? They all look the fucking same.

>>384902398
I want to know this also. The art style really turns me off . This is why I couldn't get into the Isaac games either. Wish this style would die already. Is there a name for this art style?

>>384895735
Please, don't compare Hollow Knight with any Souls game. Hollow Knight is a good game.

>>384902225
other than the beginning of:
Crossroads > Failed Knight* >Greenpath > Hornet
everything you do after this can vary greatly, and this start can be done in literally 30 minutes if you don't bother doing side stuff

*(actually killing him is optional, but you need to start the fight, so skipping is actually just for speed run)

>>384903267
Flash.

>>384895735
PC port unusable
Dropped right there

>>384899409
Aria of Sorrow for the GBA is great game to start from and still holds up today.
Symphony of the night is considered to be flagship title in the series and has been a starting place for many.
After trying either or both of those, the trio of games on the DS are an excellent place to delve into next.

The Netflix show seems to be rather divisive amongst fans, I found it to be enjoyable and would recommend it, but see for yourself.

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I got this game for my birthday a few days ago and I'm really enjoying it. I haven't enjoyed exploring in a video game in awhile now, and this world is fucking huge.
Some of the characters are cute as fuck too

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>>384903503
>pc port

It's not a 2D souls game. The way it tells the story and lore is very souls like, but that's pretty much it. Salt and sanctuary can be called 2D souls, but not this.

>>384903267
I didn't find it repetitive, but I also liked the art style.

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>>384903679
>tfw she cucks you

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>>384902398
The game uses dark palettes in every place, since everything is in the underground. But no world is the same as the others, they're distinct enough to recognize where are you

>>384902316
vengeful spirit -> mothwing cloak -> mantis claw is pretty much hardcoded even in a speedrun

>>384903679
cute as a bug

>>384902398
If the screenshots on the steam page don't do it for you, then sorry. They show all the best areas. That said, I think too many people are confusing muted colors + fog filter for homogenous design when only a few areas have the same theme.

>>384901819
and less work than proper attack animations

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>>384895735
>Soulsborne

>>384904089
But...they do?

>>384903898
Cool but what about the other 85% of the game

>>384904089
But every actual enemy in this game has an attack animation you mongoloid.

>>384904198
have proper attack animations, that is.

>>384903428

Thanks, Yeah I cant stand that style. something has always seemed off to me about it like it makes it not feel like a game in a bad way.

>>384901561
I've died many more times to bosses casually walking/jumping near me than their attacks.

Makes it feel that much more frustrating than dying to the actual attack, since youa ctually avoided it but the game chose a random movement for the enemy that just casually collides with you.

>>384904284
>like it makes it not feel like a game
Nigger I can understand not liking a style but this makes no sense.

>>384904290
git gud desu senpai

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>failed champion
I've been able to handle the other bosses fine, except for the second fight with that crystal laser shooting bastard, but this guy is consistently destroying me.

>>384904261
what is for you "proper attack animations"? Because there are enemies who shield-block you, even when you jump and attack them from above. There're enemies who attack you only when you're in places where you can't jump escape and they attack you after they block your attacks. There are enemies who are hidden and only attack when you're in a really bad position

As far as I remember, only the enemies in the first, and maybe the second, area don't go frenzy when you're near

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>>384904526
if you want easy mode, make him jump from one wall to another

>>384904745
Tell me more. Because I am tired of getting butt clobbered. I've upgraded my nail twice before going back to trying to fight this son of a bitch again and I'm still getting ruined

>>384904526
Run to one of the gates on either side of the arena. Wait there until he inevitably jumps toward you. Dash below him while he is jumping, hit him once or twice when he lands, and quickly run to the other gate in the arena. Repeat until it's dead.

You can use fragile charms because they do not break in dreams.

>>384904615
To me, an attack animation is an animations which displays an attack.

>>384904920
I'll try this after getting some rest, wish me luck.

You're unironically mentally ill.

>>384904615
>this game doesn't have attack animations!
>yes it does
>ok i was lying but they're too hard for me! :(

>>384904860
if you're aren't near, he'll run towards you, jump and attack you. If I remember correctly, he doesn't attack behind his back, so you can attack him once or twice before backing up, run to the other side of the room, and do the same

what this anon said>>384904920

>>384904526
Just equip blue health, quick slash and longer hit iframe and spam.
He'll die before you.

WARNING THIS IS A SHILL THREAD

Trial of Fools is fucking hard, any tips or charms you guys recommend?

>>384904343

It makes sense its just hard to describe. It seems cheap and like a mobile game in appearance. That's how I would describe it.

>>384895735
finished the trial of the fools and still can't beat radiance
fuck her and that stupid white palace

>>384905173
Kill yourself.

>>384905024
He was wrecking me too until I tried this method. It was almost too easy this way. Joni's Blessing also helps if you still get hit (you won't be healing much anyway because the only time you can get soul from him is when his maggot head is exposed).

>>384905170
>he fell for the lamulana-fag false flag

>>384905170
Thanks for the warning man.

>>384905238
Well cheap is kinda different from "not a game".

>>384904343
It looks like a newgrounds ''''''game'''''

>>384905348
Kill yourself with your pathethic damage control.

>>384905173
Git gud.

Carve out your charm niche so you've got a set-up that works for you. Do NOT try to cheese it, you'll ruin the fun and stunt yourself.
>>384905392
Look up Hungry Knight.

>>384895735
>mfw I best the game in 4 hours but needed cheats

Tha's really sad, I spent 1 hour for the watchers. Btw can you have a save backup? I don't want to do everything 100 times just because of shitty trials of fools

>>384905389

it looks pasted. Its like watching a video reenactment of a game.

So what was your favorite area? I loved city of tears and queens garden.

>>384905173
it's literally just git gud desu.
But here are the ones I was using when I won
>Quick Focus
>Deep Focus
>Nailmaster's Glory
>Soul Catcher

>>384903679
Thicc

>>384905557
City of Tears. I loved backtracking through that area every time. The atmosphere of that place is amazing, especially since I love the sound of rain. That area was made for me.

>>384905634
Kill yourself.

>>384905173
Remember that, if you hit the enemies from above, the jump and dash reset. You can use that to escape hard spots

>Quick Focus, Defender's Crest, Spore Shroom, Shape of Unn
>tfw you're a heal-farting slug of doom

>>384905585
I refuse.

>>384905348
>implying that wasn't lamulanafag himself going nuclear when he saw that people were unironically discussing video games in his bait thread

>>384905624
>>Nailmaster's Glory
for what purpose

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>>384905557
City of tears

>>384905758
You're fucking stupid for blaming him for the shilling.

>>384905557
Hive and Royal Waterways because the enemies were really fun to fight in those areas.

>>384905810
not him but i think it's for the flying things
so you can 1 shot them
i cheesed the trial with hiveblood

>>384905908
two shots is easier than charging up one shot

>>384903679
>saw her while exploring the area, couldn't get to her that early in the game
>forgot to write it down
>didn't go back for her until 30+ hours in
>she immediately returns to Dirtmouth and starts praising Zote

what a thankless job

>>384905879
hello lamulanafag

>>384905557
Ancient Basin and Deepnest

Deepnest made my skin crawl so much when I first ventured there

>>384905557
Kingdom's Edge and White Palace. The music in these two is incredible.

>>384895735
This game is garbage abd so are the shill threads, half of these get no replies yet you keep spamming this garbage.

>all these charm layouts
>no one stacking longnail + mark of pride and cheesing dummies through platforms

>>384905557
city of tears and dirtmouth

>>384906040
>109 replies
>Talking about a game makes you a shill
>Several posts from people beginning the game
Why did this game attract a random shillposter

>>384906009
You are paranoid.

>>384906024
White palace isn't really an area it's just an obstacle course but whatever.

>>384906110
I can cheese most enemies through walls and platforms with just the longnail charm.

>>384906130
Pathethic damage control and lack of reading comprehension.

>>384906040
Why do you care so much? Like genuinely, I see people like you in almost every hollow knight thread. You come in and complain about shills and how there's no real discussion happening and then you stick around replying to everyone. Why?

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>>384905875

>>384906250
Cool

>>384905958
against the flying spitting snipers and the mantis dudes?
well if you don't have problem with them no need to use it

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She was innocent.

>>384906438
Yep.

I'd have had more of a problem charging up is my point.

>>384905173
Use Nailmaster's Glory and Great Slash to one shot weak enemies as soon as they spawn, especially the wasps that charge at you, the flies that shoot 3 projectiles, and the soul sanctum guys
Watch a video so you know what to expect from the boss at the end

>>384906476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_-2L9Snm-s

>>384906187
Technically, all areas are obstacle courses

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>>384906476
i looked up if i had any way to save her
fuck that

>>384906523
>that broken quavery voice as she starts turning
Fuck.

>>384906337
Why do you care about anything? I hate the idea of undisclosed advertising. Also /v/ is not supposed to be the board for constant reoccurring general threads

There's multiple threads about this daily, most get no replies and most read like todd posting, threads on /vg/ die because it's not effective to shill there

inb4
>hurr dur no allowed to talk bout vidya gaems
Kill yourself.

>>384905557
Fungal Wastes (Mantis Village), Ancient Basin (The Abyss) and Queen's Gardens are my absolute favourites.

>>384905557
Fungal Wastes for the whimsical music and how many times I've been there because of the stag station.

The Abyss because it was unexpected.

On my first playthrough still trying to find this fabled "Birthplace" that the Kingsoul talks about, but I refuse to look up its location.

>>384906680
I care about things because they either interest me or concern me in some way. And the reason you're here, every time, is because you don't like people talking about a game? Because you feel like that's advertising? Okay then. Thank you for answering honestly.

>>384906680
The only shill-sounding posts are the OP and the waifufaggotry, both of which are suspected even by people that like the game as a falseflag. The idea that three random aussies would pay someone to make their game look worse is absurd.

>>384906770
if you paid attention to the little details and lore, you can have an idea of what is this "brithplace". If you're up to complete the game with the best ending, you'll find it

>>384906770
Eh visit every area with the mask. Then you will now. Actually it's pretty easy. Hornet told you where it is I think

>>384906957
Yes you fucking piece of shit, I don't want this shit on /v/.

>>384907210
Okay. I get it, cool.

>>384907074
I think it's some geniunely obsessive chrischan tier sperg.

Fuck off shill no one wants to buy your game

Is there a single Metroidvania which is even as close to as good as Castlevania games?

They never come close in the visuals, locations or music. Why are there no straight up clones?

>>384901349
>I hate this mechanic used in every single successful metroidvania
>I think anyone will take this as being objectively bad
I'm mean you're free to not like it, but I hope you don't think it's accepted as bad design.

>>384895735
>cherrypicked one of two enemies in the game that has a shield to meme about it being souls-like
lol

>>384904290
Weird, I can avoid the bosses casually walking/jumping near me. Almost the same as being able to avoid a non pattern attack. I think it's called git gud

>>384901349
Guess Super Metroid is garbage too.

>>384907601
It's funny, because I feel the same but replacing Castlevania with Metroid

I play Metroidvanias once in a while, but I replay Metroid games once a year. I think I've replayed AM2R like 3 times this year alone

Should Quick Slash and Hiveblood be nerfed?

>>384904230
>...

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>>384905238
>It's not a game, it seems like a game
>It makes sense
If you say so

How many of you took out that spider-thing before getting to Greenpath? Took a long time to get good enough at spike jumping to get to his area without having the walljump but it was pretty satisfying to beat him.

>>384904526
>healing is too hard
>stack shitton of HP, plus extra invulnerability time charm
>fight becomes the easiest dream boss

>>384906492
you can charge up before they spawn and the charged attacks can more easily hit several opponents at once. You can also charge fast enough with the charm to chain kill all but the wave with four of them

>>384908236
that really awakens my dream nail

>>384895735
Ok this shit has got to stop.

To all the indie retards out there, your game isn't """"""Soulsborne"""""" because you include a roll dodge or you decide to write cringy esoteric shit on tablets instead of an actual story. How can so many people be impassioned enough to rip off Dark Souls, yet somehow miss the entire point of what made it good?

>>384908530
or you could just walk back and forth as he jumps over you.

>>384908576
tell me more

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>>384908576
You do realize that making posts like this only encourages people to start more threads by calling this Game a "Soulsbourne". You're not enlightening anybody

>>384895735
I'm not even a fan of games that use this excessive cutesy art style, but this is one of the games that have brought me the most enjoyment in a long time. The world building, atmosphere and sense of exploration was great, and something I feel is missing in a lot of games.

The only real problem I had with the game was the constant need to backtrack. I think I spent more than half of my time in the game backtracking.

>>384905875
>>384906398
h-how did you do that?
i dream nailed a bunch of these npcs after reading their dialogue once. shouldn't i have done that?

>>384901349
>this guy's still coming into these threads posting this

>>384909313
I just juggled the old whore until she got there.
It's not intended, there's no new dialog.

>>384909313
>i dream nailed a bunch of these npcs after reading their dialogue once
for what purpose

what was the best boss fight for you /v/?
and the worst?
i really liked the false knight and hollow knight
and hated radiance

>>384910243
Hornet Rematch

>>384908997
Yeah, typical shill thread.

>>384909313
you just need to talk to her, and she'll ask you if you want to sit and listen to her

She's the only one I didn't dream nail

>>384909993
you can get like 25 essence from dream nailing every ghost in the game

>>384910348
for what purpose

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>>384909993
the first one by accident. and then i just kept doing it.
i'm still not sure if i'm supposed to do this, but they do give me essence.

>>384909876
heh

>>384910343
same here

fact: barneyfag is also a hollow shill

>>384910403
so you can get all 2608 essence for TRUE 100%

>>384910243
I hated radiance. Funny enough, I died to him like 20 times in the first phase, but none in the second

Best boss fight was Hollow Knight. Shame it was short

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More games should have mind reading.

I am not a great fan of permadeath shit. So...can I backup my save?

>>384895735
Stop shilling this ugly indieshit.

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>>384910874
just don't play the permadeath mode?

>>384910972
I am an achievment fag. Also I just want to do some checkpoints. Not everytime, so I still kinda have the challenge.

But thinking of trials of fools how shit it is, is absurd.

>>384910426
I'm still working on my 100%, but apparently the ghosts are completely optional to get the achievement.

>>384910746
That shit was so unnerving, but ultimately one of the few disappointing things in the game; I was returning regularly over the course of my entire playthrough because I expected some kind of storyarc revolving around her and her peculiar tastes. Nothing.

>>384910874
it should be around C:/%AppData%/LocalLow/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight

Check and see if you can back it u

>>384911107
quit the game once you get to 2 hp.

But probably can backup cheat

>>384911107
Just steam achievement editor?
And can't you just use save&quit, anyway? It's impossible to die "out of nowhere" if you always stay above 2 HP.

>>384910920
This.

>>384910920
>>384911578
Go suck a dick, faggot.

>>384896967
>Pirated during shill threads, bought during Steam Sale
NEVER pay for a digital "copy" you fucking corporate cocksucking shill

>>384911398
I tried it, it was kinda strange it worked 50:50

But I actually didn´t thought about >>384911418
that, so I will do this.

>>384911540
>steam achievment editor
because HK is one game I really really like, but I don´t have the nerve for permadeath stuff.

btw. I am kinda scared about steam banning me because of that.

>>384904526
For me it helped to drop all the gimmicks and concentrate on learning his patterns and simply attacking him without relying or invincibility/healing/spells/whatthefuckever

>>384912180
Are you autistic or something? Who gives a fuck about achievements?

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>Soulsborne

Isn't Hollow Knight more of an Undervania?

what charms are good for radiance?
that homing balls of light sucks a lot

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>>384912772
>Earthbound being called "Undervania"
So fucking triggered.

>>384913007
You shouldn't be. Retroactive classification has been a thing in the real arts for a long time.

>>384913104
Good thing video games aren't art then.

>>384913351
Ebert u don't know shit about film how u gonna know shit about vidya

>>384913351
Undertale is art though and so are Undervanias. Just accept that Earthbound (which in Japan was called "Undertale Beta 2") doesn't compare to modern Undervanias anymore.

>>384913519
This.

>>384913519
Unironically the best comment in this thread. BASED

>>384913519
I wholeheartedly agree, my nigger -- no, my negro!

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Would you fug bug?

>>384913830
Why are you even asking this question

>>384912756
me you fag.

>>384895735
What the fuck does that even mean? That it has Metroidvania elements? Combat that requires pattern memorization? Difficult? Heavy stamina management? Made by FromSoft? That you just liked it and haven't played many video games so you luck the vocabulary and references to describe it?

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I would fug bug.

>>384895735
I started playing it this week and for some reason the jumping feels weird and i can't tell exactly why

>>384913929
Autist.

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>>384913830

>>384913928
It's a thoughtless shill OP

>>384914058
eugh

>>384895735

>Lightseed comes out of an enemy when it dies

Huh, that's interesting. Wonder why they dropped it.

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>tfw you find out that if you spare the Nailsmith he visits Sheo and they start making little statues together, satisfied with their new calling in life

what have I done

>>384905552
so you are telling me that it looks like a cartoon trying to be a game?
how the fuck is this bad?
do you really think pixel shit like la mulana is better?

>>384912772
Fuck you and your image

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>>384913830
>>384913929
>>384914013

>>384914186
It looks like a ms paint newgrounds game, not a cartoon.

>>384912791
With limited to no time to heal joni's blessing works well. I used joni's + lifeblood core + shaman stone and then just spammed abyss shriek, worked wonders.

>>384914178
I just ignored him for shits and giggles, then left and entered the area again to to see if he was still there.

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I'm still amazed about how this game turned out to be.
How the fuck are 3 australians with 50.000 dollars capable of doing a game that looks like this?

>>384914478
> With limited to no time to heal
Really? I thought I had plenty of time to heal thanks to the focus charm. Way more time than Failed Champion, at least.

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So what came of Bug-Solaire after the jungle dreamer?

>>384914824
You find him again chilling on the blue lake.

>>384914810
Almost died of laughter, your game looks pretty shit.

>>384912791
If you prefer to stay healed up pick (apart from Focus of course) Shape of Unn, which enables you to heal up and evade most attacks at the same time.

>>384895735
This game is 80% filler

>>384914178
the gayness

it could not be stopped

Loved Hollowknight, best Metroidvania I've ever played, but it's not Soulslike or Soulsborne at all. It takes some cues, but a bloodstain mechanic isn't anywhere near enough to put it in those categories. If you want those word to actually mean something, you can't just throw it at every thing.

>>384914824
>tequiro
>nequiro

>>384914824
>him
>bug-solair
lolno

>>384915838
what did he mean by this?

When does this game stop being boring?

>>384916125
What's the cause of this autistic, obsessive hatred?

>>384916273
The game is popular.

>>384916273
I'm asking because I've been playing for a while now and haven't felt challenged by anything yet.

http://www.pcgamer.com/hollow-knights-hidden-dreams-update-will-release-on-august-3/?ns_campaign=article-feed&amp%3Bns_mchannel=ref&amp%3Bns_source=steam&amp%3Bns_linkname=0&amp%3Bns_fee=0

So will they add playable Hornet? They said they would but article doesn't mention anything

>>384916616
mantis area is where it get harder.

>>384916632
They have plans to but I don't think it's in that update.

>>384916705
I did that already.

>>384916616
Come back after you beat colloseum

>>384895735
Wouldn't Salt & Sanctuary be a better 2D Soulsborne? In pretty much every way.

Not knocking Hollow Knight, fucking loving it.

>>384916632
Yeah but that will probably be 2nd dlc.

I hope team cherry will make enough money so they give us also the abyss stuff, they wanted to do but couldn't thanks to kickstarter

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I keep dying in this one level thanks to these fucking jellyfish piece of shits and I'm getting so annoyed by it. Any suggestions?

>>384916951
what abyss stuff?

>>384916990
Use the fucking dream nail to refill your soul and heal.
Christ...

>>384911297
Yeah this, and Dream spying in general. They planned to make it a big part of the game, every dream would be a separate challenge and story, guess they run out of funds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10MQdIqalZg

>>384916990

Glowing Womb

>>384916990
Don't attack them. You might take some contact damage but it's half that from explosions. Also if this is your first time there you only need to go through a few rooms to get to the next place.

>>384895735
>calling a metroidvania 2d soulsborne
oh, so this is a game for nu-/v/, looks like ill skip it

>>384914178

Why would you kill him? In a game where so many character's stories have depressing or disappointing endings, there's no way I'm gonna ensure there's one more.

>>384917010
>According to the Kickstarter stretch goals, the Abyss was "a massive new expansion for only the hardiest of adventures" and was going to have "4 new bosses", however this $85,000 stretch goal was not reached.

http://hollowknight.wikia.com/wiki/The_Abyss#Sub-area:_The_Abyss

>>384916990
that specific room is hard as shit, just ignore the jellyfishes and keep trying

in larger rooms it's easy to kill them and dodge the bombs

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>>384917010
Look at the goals. Funny how we got the palace but the bosses are dlc.

Abyss would probably be much bigger.

>>384917487
No, it's not. You practically got as much health as you want, as long as you dream nail the enemies without killing them.

>>384917780
He's obviously early into the game, he doesnt have the dream nail you dumbass

>>384917916
It's one of the first items you get, retard.

>>384918016
No it's not, you only get it after the crystal mines, meanwhile you have to go through jellyland to even get to mushrooms you fuckwit

>>384918016
Sure, only after going through
>crossroads
>greenpath
>wastes
>mantis village
>city of tears
>royal waterway
>(optionally) howling cliffs and crystal caves

and of course the fucking fog canyon where the fucking jellyfish are

>>384917710
Is there any chance we will get it given how relatively successful HK seems to have been? Or am I just being too optimistic?

>>384918016
>one of the first items
> false knight
>hornet
>soul master
>lost kin
>literally 6 places you visit before you get it
>first item

dream nail is literally the half of the game you fucking faggot.

>>384918224
I got it more or less at the start of the game. It was so early I couldn't even jump up on the platform to fight the first ghost.

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>>384918224
>>384918309
>All these retards who don't understand the concept of a Metroidvania and think the way they played it is the way everyone played it

>>384908192
You played Axiom Verge yet? First one that comes to mind since you already got through AM2R.

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>>384895735
Stop comparing everything to your shit game series. That gook didn't invent video games you dumb nigger.

>>384918225
Well we still got the colloseum of fools. Maybe there would 4 additional challenges or just 4 and we still got zote. But zote´s quest is still confusing, he talks about his past and then say he only did it for becoming famous.

Maybe they will do a definitive version and then add it into it. I mean it would mean to change the whole level and what with people who get the dlc but already 100% the game?
If it has nothing to do with the initial shadow stuff, there is a possibility but it looks hard to implement.

>>384918309
Or, you know, save up for the lantern and go to the crystal cave after fighting Hornet.

>>384917139
Fuck that's amazing.

Hey does anyone know if Team Cherry is working on anything now, or still just putting out little updates for HK?

>>384918515
>this stupid motherfucker who doesn't get sequence breaking is for later playthroughs and first time should be as devs intended

>>384918812
There's supposed to be a free DLC this month with new areas and bosses.

>>384918812
>>384916632

just installed this, gonna spend my lazy sunday playing it

controller or m+kb?

>>384919143
>this retard thinks people who haven't played the game before knows what path the devs intended the player to take

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>>384919143
I didn't sequence break at all and I got the Dream Nail pretty early, negro.

>>384918515
>>384918734
that´s the initial way the devs wanted you to do.

>knight and hornet to get into the mushroom place
>get mantis claw so you can get to the city
>from the city you go up to soul master
>now you can go to the chrystal caves
>now getting down to dung defender and then to lost kin
>get double jump so you can go back and realize that you are on the other side of the palace, which leads you to fucking dreamcave
>get dreamnail
>and finish the last 3

>>384918225
the upcoming update is adding 2 new bosses, further updates probably will too, maybe some in abyss. who knows if it will ever become a "massive expansion" though

>>384919260
Controller.
Have fun anon.

>>384919409
Or at least what I understand sequence breaking to be. I certainly didn't exploit the game in any way, just got the stuff I needed and made my way through the Crystal Peak as soon as possible. Certainly didn't need to make it all the way to Lost Kin to get it, like what the fuck.

>>384919260
either works, but go with controller if you have one

>>384895735
Nothing like a soulsborne and it is nothing compared to salt and sanctuary

>>384919280
>this fool can't see obvious designs like map icons that draw player down the intended road the subtle way

>>384919454
I knew nothing about the game going in. From what I remember, I beat Hornet, got the lamp, went to the crystal caves and dropped down to the resting grounds where I got the dream nail.

There's absolutely no reason to beat the soul master to go to the crystal caves, considering the lamp is available more or less from the start.

>>384919409
Mines are much harder than mushroom zone and you didn't follow the path the npcs and maps suggested so you kinda did sequence break. But yeah Lost Kin before dream nail is kinda stupid

>>384919806
>I'm a moron who never explores, and thinks that buying a lamp after encountering a dark area that is literally connected to the first area in the game is sequence breaking.

>>384919871
because the lamp is expensive. Most people don´t have the money or don´t want to farm and the other way to crystal caves is dropping down from the bug who sings all the time.

I e.g. got the lamp pretty late game.

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I never found the Resting Grounds until after Royal Waterways and Ancient Basin. I went up the elevator in City of Tears

>>384919871
>I beat Hornet, got the lamp
And most people didn't.

Not that hard.

>>384920152
The moment I noticed there were dark areas, I wanted the lamp. So I spent 10 minutes farming the area leading up to the Hornet fight.
For fuck's sake, it's a Metroidvania. If you're presented with an item that gives you the ability to go to a new area, you buy it.

>>384919693
Needlessly antagonistic to HK mang. OP did fuck up by calling it a soulsborne, he shouldn't have and neither should you. Different games are different, and comparing them is just foolishness.

That said I wish we would have more S&S threads. It is a damn good game. Ugh, if only it had online multiplayer.

>>384920070
>buying an item 3 times more expensive than basic upgrades and going into obviously harder area isn't sequence breaking
>if you leave later areas for later so you have a steady difficulty curve you're a moron who never explores

>>384920512
>basic upgrades
>you need four of them to upgrade
Yeah, I'll take the lamp.

>>384920413
>If you're presented with an item that gives you the ability to go to a new area, you buy it.

I didn´t even found the guy until I was already in the chrystal cave. Also when I see a 1800 item and see that I can only gain like 10 with killing a mon, I don´t grind, I go exploring and look at other places and how to get there.

>>384920413
How about you just play the game normally and buy the thing when you're ready?
>So I spent 10 minutes farming the area leading up to the Hornet fight.
>but I don't get how people don't do that

>>384920512
>I don't understand the concept of high risk, high reward.

>>384920713
You get 45 from the guys in the area before Hornet, and I already had over a thousand.

>>384920680
>>384920807
This are weak posts and at this point its arguing for the sake of arguing. Go find friends somewhere else

>>384920413
>For fuck's sake, it's a Metroidvania. If you're presented with an item that gives you the ability to go to a new area, you buy it.
Or maybe it is a metroidvania, so if you can't do something now you should just do it later and explore something else? "Grinding money" is the last thing I would do in a metroidvania.

>>384920413
but there are usually at least 2 options for where to explore next, so i just explored other areas in the meanwhile.

>>384920743
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't play the game like I was supposed to. I guess I'll stop exploring and having fun, and just follow a linear path instead.

>>384920938
>45 from mobs who are pretty stronger than the other normal ones

Like I said anon, the way the devs intended was to go down. That´s the reason they made the lamb so fucking expensive. Not everyone wants to spend time to farm something expensive, when they just know they can go further with the mainplot and then get enough money from somewhere else to buy it.

so what's the fastest way to grind geo? the jumping guys in Kingdom's Edge?

>>384921091
Grinding geos requires a very boring and linear path, so you are already doing a good job.

>>384921091
You get so much money in the game, the developers probably intended people to not use the money magnet the entire time. Literally every area has at least two ways to enter, requiring something different each

>>384921239
Spending ten minutes to get an item that lets you go to new places is grinding, now?
You're really reaching.

>>384921176
Instead I found a new place to explore and got an item early.

>>384921236
selling stuff to the guy in city of tears.
freeing caterpillars.
fragile greed.

geo only seems relevant in the beginning though, and if you lose it all you can gain it back pretty quickly with fragile greed.

>>384921454
>You get so much money in the game
Not really. Early on you're always short on money as you're presented with a multitude of items and charms you can't afford, but really want. Then suddenly money becomes worthless.

>>384921236
Late game you have more than enough if you explore and sell relics to the relic guy.

When I needed geo early game, I went to farm the two Moss Knights north of the stag station in Greenpath. They both drop about 50 geo and you can quickly run back and forth between the bench to respawn them.

>>384910243
Hollow knight and broken vessel/lost kin, the worse for me was soul master

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If this game had a homeward bone type item it would condense playtime significantly while still having the game be plenty long enough.

>>384921998
Quit to menu

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holy shit, i just found the mantis lords and they are whooping my ass. i last about 45 seconds on the first one

>>384921635
This is honestly how every video game becomes, and if you can't see it coming you're a retard.

Yeah I wanted to buy all that shit, but I knew if I just kept with the path I could, I'd get to a point where it would be childs play to buy everything. And it was. So people that are so fucking autistic that they HAVE TO BUY ALL THE THINGS RIGHT AWAY, that they go and grind the first three areas for 5 hours so they can do so are just insane and I will mock their agony as I continue exploring.

is it possible to have a good spell focused setup? i always found the melee or defense charms superior.

>>384921998
I think they're introducing that in the DLC

>>384921459
Considering you can just equip the auto-pick-geos charm and use your 10 minutes do do something actually fun, like exploring all other things you can explore without the expensive upgrade, yes it is boring and linear grinding.

>>384922090
They seem annoying as fuck, but they have a really simple pattern that can be picked up on and you'll never get touched once. Just dodge and jump around till you see what I mean.

>/v/ hails this game as 2d Souls
>Go play it
>No dodge
>No block
>No other weapons
>No weight to attacks
>No lore
>No equipment
>No stats
>Nothing, just bland and basic metroidvania that has been outdone thousands of times already but this somehow gets a pass because MUH GRAFIX SO ARTSY

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>>384922090
i discovered them a while ago and i still avoid them right now.

>>384922125
I don't think the spells are amazing enough to be worth it. The ground pound one is kinda fun to fuck with people, but using melee, especially once you start unlocking nail arts, is a lot more interesting.

>>384910243
Lost Kin took me the most tries (like 10), but was the most fun because you don't die when you lose and you can quickly re-fight him
Trial of Fools and Radiance were the worst because they were stressful and I didn't even really care about true end or 100%, so I was close to giving up

>>384922094
That wasn't what we were talking about, you retard. You said "you get so much money", which isn't true. By the end game, you have more money than you know what to do with, but early on you don't.
So no, you don't "get so much money".

>>384922312
wrong on all points
you went full retard

>>384918224
I didn't even fought the mantis lords the first time I fought the hollow knight

>>384921459
Yes, and most other people didn't consider that worthwhile.

>>384922435
And I'm saying that by mid game you have more than enough money to buy everything, and grinding early game to buy everything is fucking retarded when you can just have fun exploring.

People who grind for things they can get by just playing the game are autistic as fuck. Probably miserable OCD faggots that twitch all the time too.

>>384922458
almost as if...he's baiting...woah

>>384922080
Holyshit this. I didn't discover it until I attempted the fragile flower quest- but it shaves so much time off things.

>>384922214
>auto-pick-geos charm
Why waste a charm slot on that shit? It doesn't do anything.
But yeah, those ten minutes I spent farming moss knights sure did ruin this 30 hour game for me.

>>384922265
theyre just so fucking fast, it's impossible to heal

>39 id's
>320 posts

So this is what autism looks like. I heard that the HK 'community' was pathetic but this is just embarrassing.

>>384922660
Every boss has a "reprieve attack" which gives you an opening to heal. Mantises are no exception.

>>384922635
it's convenient as fuck, especially in the beginning.

>>384922735
That's the number of images, dumbass.

>>384922312
You forgot to mention the pixel art and chiptune music.

>>384922735
Are you retarded my man, do you know the numbers?

>>384922735
anon...

>>384922635
It's not like your autism will ever let you feel bored of stupid repetitive tasks, anyway.

>>384922609
>People who grind for things they can get by just playing the game are autistic as fuck. Probably miserable OCD faggots that twitch all the time too.

I think people who get this upset over someone spending 10 minutes to get an item that opens up vast area of the game world early on, are far more likely to be autistic.

>>384922735
Please be bait

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>>384922735

what happens if you use the city crest to enter city of tears, but then quit to menu before using a bench there? is it impossible to get back in?

>>384922906
Ok, my autistic friend. If it'll stop your impotent fit of rage, I'll play games exactly how you tell me to in the future.
Alright? Are you calm now? Good boy.

>>384922635
>that charm is a waste of slot when you don't even have access to more useful charms early in the game
>but grinding in a game that NEVER requires grinding isn't a waste of time

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>>384903679

>>384921236
Just don't. I played most early game with the charms for money, wasted some time fixing that brokable charm, lost 3,5k, left only the geo magnet charm and still got far too much money to spend on about 3/4 through the game. After beating I have 25k I can't use

>>384923136
You could technically still access the city by beating the mantis lords with a lvl 1 nail, getting the tram pass from the deep nest. I'm fairly sure you don't the dive ability to get it.

>>384923252
>SOMEONE FARMED FOR TEN MINUTES IN A 30 HOUR GAME AND THAT MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD!!!
Calm down, man.

>>384905557
Deepnest made me feel unsettled as fuck.

Immediate runner up is the throne room of Mantis Village. The Lords are bros.

>>384923691
I found Deepnest annoying. It was just a hassle to traverse.
Favorite area I think was Kingdom's End, because it reminded me of the fog area in Faxanadu. In fact, I'm fairly certain it was inspired by Faxanadu, given the enemies, terrain and music.

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guys, guys: how much money did you lose max (through double death)? and how much money did she scam from you?

for me it's 1k8 and 3k

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Spoilers:
So what the fuck is the black thing called Void? I thought that's the mad spirits of the vessels but apparently it existed long before that.
Also what is the sacrifice the King is talking about? Vessels have no emotions or anything so it's not like they mind being dumped. And the citizens were killed by Soul Sanctum, not the King.

>>384924024
I never died twice and lost money, but the banker took about 3k

>>384923547
Actually it was:
>guys this area is hard
>just use dream nail dumbass
>he's too early for dreamnail
>what you talking about, I myself got dreamnail as soon as possible by grinding and ignoring storyline so it's an early game item

>>384924041
I think the lore implies that Void was the civilization that came before Hallownest

>>384924024
Never lost any money, and never used the bank.

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>>384922265
>>384922323
shit niggas i got them

>>384924024
Lost 3k, was really pissed, turns out it's even less worth than in Souls series.
But you can't put more than 2,5k in the bank so how did she scam you for more?

>>384924379
The cap is 4.5k

>>384924224
>>what you talking about, I myself got dreamnail as soon as possible by grinding and ignoring storyline so it's an early game item
Nice strawman, retard.
I followed the natural path as it was laid out for me. I went to the right early in the game and discovered the dark area, so after the Hornet fight I got the lamp and went there. There was no indication that I was supposed to go anywhere else, and the game revolves around exploring anyway.

Not my fault you're an autistic retard who can only play games linearly.

>>384908096
yes

>>384906680
I hate the idea of you continuing to live. End yourself

>>384923359
>>384903679

Fuck that faggot Zote forever.