Is he,dare i say it,right?

>>384885093
He kinda is, but I think there's been a development in videogame music, you can find chorus, orchestra, jazz... all kind of shit for every kind of game. It's true that japanese RPGs abuse of the orchestra and they love to give a melancholy feeling on top of that, but the problem is that the fantasy settings are normally overused in the games, not the music itself.

>>384885316
>chorus, orchestra, jazz

That were present since the 16 bit days

>It's true that japanese RPGs abuse of the orchestra

Nearly all games (japanese or not) have orchestral music in these days and its the laziest thing apart from traditional ambient music.

>>384885093
Can we kickstart him a new set of teeth first ?

>>384885093
who is this

I kind of agree with his point but there are outliers

FFXIV for example has such a varied soundtrack for a typically fantasy game for example, I'd say only about 40% of the game's music is that grandiose orchestral sound he's describing

It's pretty much impossible to tell from this clip, he's using the term "orchestral music" very broadly and he also gives no indication of what would be better than "orchestral music".

Anyone know who he is?

>>384885093
>>384885093
>Is he

Who?

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Who?

>>384887514
>>384887628
Hisayoshi Ogura,former member of Zuntata
http://vgmdb.net/artist/1574
https://vimeo.com/144780980

>>384885093
>I really think game music hasn't developed at all in the past twenty years

I could have maybe potentially possibly somewhat agreed with some of the other things he said, but he went full retard here. He clearly does not play many video games.

>>384885093
>it's nothing more cliche than playing a sad music in a sad scene
Right.
why don't we play Entry of the gladiators during character's death instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0


fucking retard have no idea what he's talking about.

>>384888341
>>384888435
t.Gen Z

>>384885675
>>384885316
I don't know if I'd call it lazy, putting together a good composition for a group to play is difficult

but generally RPGs use orchestras because it gives the feeling of gothic/victorian/middle age etc

classical and baroque eras

using an orchestra doesn't preclude you from making strict styles though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIWhy-urqM

>>384885093
I don't really get what's the point he's trying to make. Is he not a fan of orchestras in general or is he saying music solely doesn't make a scene convey the intended emotion.

>>384888435
Considering how obnoxiously ham-handed most death scenes are, Entry of the Gladiators would fit fine.
>I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHT
>*carnival music plays softly in background*
>*honk honk*

>>384888565
He's saying music as a device in video games is stagnating

>>384888624
No he's saying game music hasn't changed AT ALL, in TWENTY YEARS. Which is fucking ridiculous and shows how out of touch he is.

>>384885093
Who cares? Music is the least important thing in a video game.

>>384888676
You're taking what he's saying too literally

People would likely rather music be 'safe' white noise than intrusively bad.
In a perfect world everyone could have unique soundtracks like a Persona game but realistically you would also get a lot of Blue Dragon boss fights in this trade.

>>384888676
It didn't,in fact it regressed considering the 90s had more variety and quality.

>>384888728
And this is the cancer killing videogames,PC fags.

I kinda agree. Grand symphonic orchestras have become somewhat bland. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I don't remember the vast majority of the orchestra music, a recent exception being Bloodborne, as the gritty and grim compositions were really characteristic for the game.

For example, I remember the LittleBigPlanet 1 music vividly, even the original score besides the licensed stuff they got for the game. It's a shame that devs aren't being a little more adventurous with their soundtracks.

>>384885093
>orchestra sickness
someone finally fucking said it

there are exceptions, but I hate the bland orchestra that's infected so many games.

>>384888291
He was making music before most of /v/ was born

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NteidGHXV7U

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>there is nothing more cliche than playing sad music to a sad scene

holy shit what a textbook contrarian hipster faggot

>LOL LETS PLAY SOMETHING LOUD AND UPBEAT DURING A DEATH SCENE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF INNOVATION

There are entire comedy sketches about this exact retarded idea

holy shit not even 9am and I'm already fucking pissed today

>>384888996
Orchestras have become so bland lately because all they are trying to do is provide complicated elevator music while the game goes on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxabLA7UQ9k
There's no equivalent to this in any game I've played.

>>384885093
He is wrong in that he gives too much credit to video game players aka gamers, of whom the majority are just children and manchildren.

>>384889131
If the scene is already sad, you don't need this massive sad orchestra song playing. You can go with silence or a quiet melody instead- having an orchestra play during a sad scene is equivalent to the game bashing you in the head with a hammer and screaming "ARE YOU UPSET YET?!?!?!"

>>384889131
t. born in 2000

>>384888676
But even music overall did not change. Things are very similar to each other, just because you listen to rock doesn't mean you're better than someone listening to pop, chords/structure is exactly the same.

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>>384885093
BABYBABYBABYBABYBABY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFaoLrLzd4

>>384885093
It's actually not only cliché but insulting to your audience. You see this discussion a lot in films with close-ups of people crying and sad music on the background. It feels cheap.
The difference is that the public for a movie is a lot more mature and critical of what they consume than dumb weebs that play JRPGs.

>>384885093
>those teeth
Jesus Christ

Yes. You can tell a good composer from a bad one by if they rely too heavy on one thing. This is why Marty O'Donnell is great, because he manages to have an orchestra as a main theme but manages to put in Jazz, Electronic, Tribal, and Guitars all together to form something more interesting.

>>384889521
This is why Soule is disgustingly overrated

Literally who?

>>384889131
You need to calm your sperg ass down.

His entire point was "Orchestral music is overused as fuck in JRPGS". And he hit the nail on the head. His fault here is he didn't offer any alternatives.

>>384889436
Persona soundtracks suck compared to the other ps2 smt releases.

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>>384889437
>The difference is that the public for a movie is a lot more mature and critical of what they consume
A fifth Bayformers movies was made. Fifth. There are just as many shit eaters in the movie audience as there are literally everywhere else.

>>384889568
Jeremy Soule is the most overrated composer in whole gaming industry. His music is extremely generic and sounds the same in every single fucking game he worked on.

>>384889132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePcDSutt_Ww

Hans Zimmer shit is lame and I dont know why everybody fellates him.
Must be some /mu/ meme.

>>384889131
You realize he didn't say anything about using upbeat music during emotional moments, right? He's likely talking about the big orchestra, bombastic soundtracks during sad moments for the sake of it. Sometimes no soundtrack or a quiet melody is much stronger than a big orchestra.

>>384889674
I kinda agree, but Oblivion really is his most distinct and different work. It's still all orchestra, but uses many different instruments and quiet leading piano pieces.

>>384885675
>orchestra is lazy.
Yes getting an orchestra together is more lazy than hiring a popular band of 5 people to do some music.

>>384885093
Japanese Freddy Krueger is alright.

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>>384889241
great argument cockgobbler

>>384889232
>having an orchestra play during a sad scene is equivalent to the game bashing you in the head with a hammer and screaming "ARE YOU UPSET YET?!?!?!"


Not at fucking ALL. You need to stop feeling like video games are insulting your intelligence or something my friend, videogames are not that smart of an artform. They're not putting sad music in a scene to fucking let you know that its a sad fucking scene, any retard can tell that a character crying over a friends body is a sad scene. It's used as a spice to augment the impact or flavor of the scene. Is it necessary? of course not, and there are numerous scenes in videogames that are incredibly powerful without the use of music. Is tabasco sauce necessary for all food? of fucking course not, but if used well with the dish it can make the dish more flavorful, and thus more enjoyable.

>food analogy

fuck you

>>384889680
I have friend who is a musician, with very elitist/niche taste and he absolutely hates Hans Zimmer.
Also he said that theme for Requiem for a Dream is the worst piece of movie music ever created and if anyone would compose something like this in a respectful music school they would fail horribly.

>>384889828
Yeah, it's used for spice, but big blaring orchestral pieces are like using said tabasco and then pouring the whole fucking bottle in.

>>384889437
>It's actually not only cliché but insulting to your audience.

VIDEOGAMES ARE NOT YOUR INTELLECTUAL BASTION SPERG CALM DOWN YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT THAT SMART ANYWAYS

>>384889828
>>384889828
>>384889828

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>>384889568
I've never even heard of the guy, that can't be a good thing. You listed to something by O'Donnell or Mick Gordon and you can immediately tell it's them.

>>384889887
I mean, that one song is pretty good actually.

>>384889132
Your example is bland and shit.
Also, play more games instead of wasting your time complaining about them on a Chinese picture forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbVEmzY5S4

>nigga who has been out of touch with videogame music for 20 years thinks nothing has changed in 20 years
Shocker

>>384889568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klfTQvqHe3s

Soule is capable of doing things other than ES orchestral music.

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>This entertainment medium mainly meant to entertain children and teenagers is insulting my intelligence because they put contextually appropriate music to a cutscene

You guys are so fucking full of yourselves holy shit

>>384890116
>Impossible Creatures
MY FUCKING NIGGER

>>384890012
It's the same short thing repeated over and over again for 7 minutes. Most lazy song in existence and the teacher would just look at the sheet and tell you to get out with this garbage.

>>384890112
He was in the industry when videogame music was actually good and not a filler.

>>384890017
Not that guy, but Zimmer's Inception soundtrack, along with Interstellar, are superb examples of masterful compositions.

>>384889815
Obviously he is referring to the decision itself as being lazy. "What kind of music am I going to slap on this shit? Oh whatever just put some orchestral shit on there." It's the safe thing to do. You know nobody is going to criticize it. It's a lazy choice.

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>>384885093
I think he's right in a sense. Orchestral work could fit the scene/mood perfectly or it might not at all.

I think a good example of a song that could've easily been bombastic orchestra is Gwyn, from Dark Souls 1. This guy that's setup from the start as some end all god like figure, instead of having the orchestra going full blast, the composer chose a soft piano melody, giving the whole fight a much stronger vibe.

>>384889828
Wow...so this is the latest generation's intellect...realizing your analogies are shit, but being too lazy and stupid to change them...impressive.

Orchestra fucking sucks.

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>>384890142
>end the song after one minute
>get the whole experience
take this, moviefags

>>384889957
>dumb and proud
Thumbs up, brother.

>>384890143
Japan sure as shit isn't the only place obsessed with generic orchestra movie soundtrack.

>>384885093
I don't really agree about the lack of evolution in videogame music.
But he has a point about orchestra being overused and cliché as fuck. Just go inside /v/ threads about soundtracks and you'll realize how many people think that orchestra=great soundtrack, it's scary.

>>384889132
Did you completely miss that THIS YEAR we had two games with amazing music released?

P5 and Nier Automata.

>>384890206
The analogy was fucking mint lad but it's a meme on this board to use food analogy's because the joke is that everyone here is obese

>>384890208
No, lazy fucking generic sweeping orchestra with nothing but strings blaring sucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWh9l8RSkPk

>it's cliche to use sad music in a sad scene
to
>orchestral music is overused
What's the connection? And there's nothing wrong with having sad music in a sad scene.

I find that well done ambient sounds can add more to an emotionally powerful scene than music ever could.

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>>384889436
SMT rarely use orchestra overall.

>>384890317
P5s music is pretty underwhelming imo desu

Back in the day videogame music tried to copy rock and pop songs a lot of the times so it was more catchy regardless if it fit the game or not,in these days they are to scared to experiment so they make stuff that "fits"

>people in this thread that talk about western composers

They only time they were slightly relevant is when they copied japanese chip music you fucking plebs

>>384889131
A sad scene would be more powerful WITHOUT music at all.
It's not like an autistic fuck like you could understand it. You are the same kind of person that shits on BotW because "hurr durr where's the overworld music?".

>>384890163
Hans Zimmer is a fucking hack compared to Clint Mansell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0NBPRMe2E

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>>384890336
Orchestra fucking sucks.

>>384890468
>Jap Composers
DUDE JAZZ LMAO

why is she (?) reading all those cuck donations?

>>384890308
Just because its overused doesn't mean there aren't some that do it right. It's not like most think "this has an orchestra therefore it's good" like some sort of music elitist that sees anything outside of an orchestra as being beneath them.

>>384890176
Where would we be without these fucking facebook images being posted by retards?
Got one with a picture of someone important and their "quote"?

>>384885093
>Play speed 1.5x

>>384890510
>western composers

DUDE 5 MINUTES OF INTRO LMAO

>>384890476
>muh subjective opinions are right!

>>384890465
It lack variance overall, but the themes that are there is good

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>>384885093
Why do Japanese people never get brackets or whiten their teeth even a little bit?

>>384890534
I agree, there are instances where orchestra is good and fits the game/moment. But that really doesn't apply to a very big slice of games that use orchestra.

>>384890445
>mfw started SMTIVA today and got to the first boss battle
>mfw this didnt start playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik

I was understandably upset

>>384890465
Compared to WHAT?
P4? ehh, maybe. I prefer the acid jazz to pop aesthetic.

>>384890624
Yeah that's true. They are good. Personally I haven't liked any of the Persona soundtracks passed 3. But then again I hated both of the Persona games I played.

>>384890483
Not really, but Mansell's music for The Fountain is great as well.

>>384890640
>whitening
>americans

You know that it damages your teeth right? Also he is 60,give him a break.

>>384890465
nah it was pretty great and fit the theme and style overall

>>384890640
Ugly rotten teeth are a part of their culture, you racist.
Learn to be more tolerant.

>>384888341
>He clearly does not play many video games.
Video game OST peaked in the 90s.
90s were 20+ years ago.
>>384890692
Then how do I make my teeth less yellow? Brushing your teeth doesn't remove the yellowness.

>>384890476
botw had the most fucking annoying intrusive soundtrack of all zelda games you fucking pseudo-intellectual

>same 2 songs literally anywhere you go on the ma, both filled with annoying aggressive piano clinks

>>384890476
I literally can't feel emotions without music.

>>384890476
>A sad scene would be more powerful WITHOUT music at all.

wrong just based off the infinite amount of "x scene without music" videos you can just find on youtube

>>384885093
one thing i didnt really like about botw was the lack of a soundtrack. it kind of took away from the experience. now i'm not asking for music to be blaring all the time but some kind of smooth quiet version of the overworld theme would have been nice, with it changing genres depending on what area you're in. string instruments and drums for the desert, bunch of wild sounding instruments on the southeast quarter, orchestral for hyrule castle, heavy percussion for the dsdsldsufgdgkjdskljgdugdskjgdsjgdewssds

>>384890754
Unless they are very yellow you don't,if you smoke or drink coffee stop doing it.

>>384890814
Don't worry, I'll come to your parents' funeral to play something with my farts.

>>384890476
BotW sucks dick dude

>>384890754
>Video game OST peaked in the 90s.
So basically, everything peaked in video games before they became a normie shit.

>>384890676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5XZzTq_gzI

best battle song in the game

>>384890476
BotW's music is one of it's weakest parts compared to every other 3D Zelda. It is just inarguably, flat out worse.

Earthbound best music?

>>384890881
Well, yes.
All genres peaked before 2001.

>>384888753
>>384888676
>>384888624
>>384888565
He's saying absolutely nothing. Just another oldie criticizing for the sake of it

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>>384885093

>tfw broken cut button

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4BSFcyk41M

>>384890667
I agree, it's just that some do it right. Trying to fight the overuse of orchestra by making it seem like everything that uses one is generic is dangerous and potentially ruins a lot of games.
As an example, I really like Dark Souls' ost because they balance the big orchestras with softer songs and the world itself not having music, reserved only for firelink shrine and boss fights. Plus most of the songs have a strong melody throughout, while the other instruments and vocals all give the melody more power.
This is what I believe differentiates generic orchestra with good orchestra. If there isn't that thread of strong melodies, it's just a bunch of instruments kinda playing to the same beat without any content.

>>384890676
IV:A has its fair share of great stuff though, like Dagda and the gods' themes. Also the starting area and hub is comfy as fuck

>>384889131
Wow, what a faggot.

>>384890858
>posting a song by Passion Pit
>a band with lyrics about self-loathing, loneliness, doubt, mistrust, sadness, heartbreak, loss, but played over happy melodies

Did you intentionally do that?

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>game's soundtrack doesn't use any instrument

>>384890881
More or less but for videogame music it truly peaked during the late 80s and early 90s,soundtracks were more important to make a good game back then.

>>384891023
don't bother posting Twinsanity here, you'll just get shitposted on by all these tasteless cunts.

>>384890976
t. gen z redditor who hates miyazaki

>>384890838
It works if a scene is engineered to work without music

>>384890754
I disagree.

There's some fantastic OSTs that have only come out in the last 3-4 years.

Bloodborne, some of the stuff in DaS3, Drakengard 3, Nier Automata, Steins;Gate Zero, Shovel Knight, Kentucky Route Zero, etc.

>>384889651
There's at least five sharknado films too, I will add.

>>384891257
You will never convince a nostalgiafag, no matter how good the examples you bring are.

>>384891023
man I love that game's soundtrack, the game itself is mediocore

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>>384885093
he might be right to be honest
but I do like orchestrated music, without orchestra there would be no modern music

>>384889674
>>384889780

Icewind Dale is where JS peaked.

>>384890389
I imagine he has in mind a specific type of sad orchestral track that he hears all the time, but he fucks up trying to explain it.

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>>384890536
Maybe leddit is more your speed.

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I love it when they use the same thing like, 5+ times with variation in instruments or key. Little call backs to earlier in the game, the changes in the music reflect that things are different now then they were then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDgNb952sm8

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If a videogame soundtrack isn't catchy it might as well don't exist,discuss.

>>384885093
better than the dubstep meme

>>384891621
i don't talk to sluts

>>384891424
But you're reposting these images from there.
Why do redditors always immediately accuse others of coming from reddit?

>>384891621
I agree, it's also why western games tend to suck shit.

Orchestra music is not overused. Any type of music can be ruined by uninspired compositions and a lack of creativity. Plenty of modern games utilize grand orchestras to play some amazing compositions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-QTiZLQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLFsa1sYiA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya3yxTbkh5s

>>384891820
t. race traitor

>>384885093
he is correct. basically video games have hit a glass ceiling in the medium. the only way to go further is to re-work video games from the ground up. if you want to focus on story (lol), you're going to need to hire professional writers/directors that put presentation of experience on par with gameplay, which is what AAA games are doing today.

but really I feel he's speaking more of the medium being pushed even further, with experiences that no longer form cliches and surprise you. for that, you need a good writer and to get an actual good writer on board a video game is difficult, because why would they waste talent on a video game when they can put their writing into a book.

>>384889131
genuinely amazed at how much of a fucking retard you are

>>384891621
wow faggot just look at you going out with a incendiary post to get some (you)s and then dropping the "discuss." word like you actually care about the discussion
you're not different from every millennial twitter you faggot shitposter
slit your throat oxygen waste

I can't think of a single Western game sound track in like the past 7-10 years that comes close to some of the better Japanese ones

Stuff like Xenoblade chronicles stands out as being something that Western game sound track just cannot compete with.

>>384889131
based AIbro

>>384889132

The entirety of the Endless Space 2 soundtrack absolutely shits on that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM0JHl_EZJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rZlsad_hNQ

>>384887337
This

>>384892205
Banner saga 1 soundtrack is great. You can't just look up a YouTube clip though, because the music changes to the situation at hand sometimes and is really only effective as you progress through the narrative.

>>384889828

More often than not it detracts from the scene, rather than elevate it.

I agree with him. Music is overrated and shouldn't be included in video games anymore.
I mean come on, sad scenes with sad music? Exciting chase scenes with exciting upbeat music? That's retarded bullshit, just play nothing at all, listen to the sound of silence.

>>384890331
You are an idiot.

>>384892763
top taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

>>384885093
He looks a bit like the fag that said video games can NEVER EVER be art so I'm gonna go on a whim and say "No".

>>384885093
No hes fucking not OP hes an out of touch old piece of shit.

>>384885093
He's not right. The issue is that post Generation 4, with the advent of CDs as the primary game media format, there was no need to compose music through a sound chip on a console, so you could use traditional instruments and record them instead of having to see what you could do with a sound chip to make it sound better.

I think it's highlighted best by chiptunes trying to emulate old video game music, because that type of thing is basically its own instrument, except instead of developers trying to use a chip to make something that sounds like an instrument, you have people using an instrument to try and replicate what a sound chip would make. Or technically using a chip to compose whatever they want because it sounds chip-tune-y.

>>384891564
Yeah, motifs are fucking amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTAcJ0ZcUkI

The basic melody here is found in a countless of other pieces in Umineko.

>>384892763
Yeah
In fact, graphics are overrated too, videogames should go back to being text-only. Those were the times

>>384892980
>tfw playing a text only video game
>community is great and all retards are filtered out by the text
Feels good.

>>384892913
autist

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>>384890278
>>384891001
>>384892146
>>384892258
>>384892767

I appreciate the (you)'s lad but if you're going to shitpost atleast have the shitpost vaguely add to the discussion

>>384892154
this could be quoting 50% of this board right now and it'd still be apt

fuck the state of "discussion" on this shitshow

>>384885093
I 70% disagree and 30% agree with him.

Japan is a whole lot better in regards to music when it comes to conveying emotion and I don't want that to change. Sometimes there is dissonance where there is a sad scene, but the music being played is "kinda cheery but not really" in a sense. The west cannot do that at all.

I do not agree with him as well with the part that "Is it ok to play a sad song in a sad scene." There is nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

I kinda agree with him in regards to having "too many orchestra pieces" in videogames but considering the type of games Japan brings out, Orchestra is used primarily in Fantasy type games. In current era type of games there are guitars, synths, etc. I don't get his complaint.

I think he's only complaining about uninspired compositions. There are a fuck lot about it.

Example would be Motoi Fucking Sakuraba.

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>>384885093
somebody explain to me what does this ZAAAAA mean

Taito music thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIte7IbEFRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvqECjZQn9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_vxpQ5zz2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPxMDL0mNAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccLHArqnvHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l05t0pdcU

>>384894341
Zaaaaa its probably the sound that violins make

>>384894107
>reddit spacing

>>384888435
That could work, if you play your cards right.
I could see this used to make a death pretty disturbing, like someone getting ripped to shreds by some circus freaks.

>>384894341
that guy don't even have any idea what he's talking about.

>>384895262
Stop being butthurt

>>384885093
he isn't entirely wrong
when there is a sad scene people immediately think of putting sad music in it, but like he says they want to use orchestra and make it grandiose and want to drive across the sense of sadness, when that is easily achievable via more "simple design", like in SH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXVV1fkCz6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTuFnAVjiKw
not saying that orchestral music doesn't drive across the point of sadness: whenever i listen to firelink shrine, i feel a deep sense of sorrow and sadness, but also comfort

>>384885093
Ogura is so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO2EpfrM88

>>384892980
videogames were grafics only before they were text only.

>>384894341
In Japanese when you preface a noun with 'za' (it's just "the" written phonetically, so "The Orchestral Music", in this example), it means you're referring to something very basic or stereotypical.

>>384885093
the real sickness is that he actually has a dead tooth, get that shit removed

>>384885675
It's all contextual, I find the orchestral bits for the Hell segments of the new doom to be amazingly fitting for the setting and they don't use them for the mars bits where it's not fitting

>>384894358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ozsgu4ifXs

>>384885093
Why would I listen to someone who doesn't even know what a toothbrush is?

>>384885093

I guess we need more brazillian funk music and benny hill

>>384885093
I thought he was Yamaoka. All japanese do look alike.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT2wfhCCpRo
This song fucked me up both times it played during story.
Automata has an amazing OST.

Motifs in general need to be used way more fucking often.

>>384902426
Try Mother 3.

>>384894341
pizZaaa

>>384885093
For the most part yeah, generic orchestra music is pretty awful and very prevalent in modern games, especially western games. God dam is most music in modern western video games unmemorable and boring orchestra.

>>384891564
Undertale did that as well, and in some sneaky ways.
The music really made that game work for me.

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>>384889132
>orchestras have been bland lately
>post hans zimmer

kek

remember how there's people out there who are genuinely upset with how unorthodox Castlevania symphnt of the night's OST is with the smooth jazz playing at the end and stuff like that?

Seems like even if people don't like cliches, the alternative leaves them butthurt.

>>384889132
>become so bland lately
>posts blandest composer in hollywood
>even blander than ramin djawadi
no game will come close to the quality of mgs2's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4SfSKH7ZHA

>>384885093
Japanese knock-off Michio Kaku could not be more wrong, jesus christ how is it possible to have opinions this bad

>>384903964
I am the Wind just isn't a very good song and doesn't fit with Yamane's musical direction for the game at all. This is what the Japanese version had in the credits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO2L1Pie9yE

>>384890476
So you're saying this classic moment in Homeworld would be better without the music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJvYZXUT5Bk

You could not be more wrong

What games use progressive rock in their soundtrack?

Aria of the soul is my jam

>>384904283
There is so much nuance and detail in this track I'd never heard on my shitty TV. It's way more trip-hoppy than I remember.

The constant high frequency shimmer, the bass. I'd barely heard this on my crappy old CRT.

>>384888341
I think he was talking about JRPGs specifically

>>384889131
take your pills retard, he's saying that playing sad music isn't sufficient for making the player feel anything, you have to do more than that
>if he doesn't like sad music then obviously he wants happy upbeat music
it's always jumping to the extremes with you dumbasses isn't it?

MGS2 and 3 had very strong soundtracks in terms of establishing an auditory identity for the game.

5, by comparison, was so forgettable. Did they Gregson-Williams back for 5 or was it someone else?

>>384905397
the whole soundtrack is GOLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhJjbimL5E

also the track "next generation (part 2 - english version)" is straight fire, but i can't find any youtube uploads of it. on the japanese version.

>>384890476

>A sad scene would be more powerful WITHOUT music at all.

Just shut the fuck up. If the scene calls for music to complement it, it sjould have it.

These old faggots has been that don't contribute dick anymore should just spew their special snowflake malcontent somewhere else. This is some Miyazaki level shit.

>>384905936
he was on it for ground zeroes, and got a production credit for tpp. but tpp's soundtrack was composed by ludvig forsell. forsell is back for death stranding, too.

Melody has faded out of games as they've gotten bigger. It doesn't really bother me, to be honest, but games back in the day definitely had a stronger tendency to be catchier. I assume this emerged from the limitations of the hardware.

There are multiple tunes throughout the Mario series that are very memorable. Pokémon's route and town themes were super catchy. Sonic had really catchy tunes.

By comparison, the soundtracks of modern gaming are less melody-focused, and are more of a subtle accompaniment to the action on-screen. I can't remember a single tune out of Call of Duty 4 onwards, but I can remember the melodies to tracks off Perfect Dark, Timesplitters, Goldeneye, etc.

Did Gears of War have any memorable original music?

>gained a total of 300 points in 3 hours with spawn
suffering

>>384885093
>listened to contrarian

hes literally an outsider to composer world now

just like why would u care about chester gaming taste

>>384905936
Ground Zeroes had Harry Gregson-Williams in it, but he wasn't for The Phantom Pain.

>>384891023
I've never played a Crash game, but I listen to the Twinsanity OST all the time while I'm drawing.

>>384885093
>taking a shit on the souls series music
>doesn't acknowledge the music changeups and creatitivity of games like the Persona series

Spicy ememe, lazy composing is lazy composing, and just cause you don't have time to play every game that gets released doesn't mean every game lazy composing in it.

>>384885093
It makes my throat tighten and stomach turn with varying degrees of severity, out of disgust.
"Oohh. I just want you to see how sad I am."
Self-defeating bull shit.
I have no sympathy for people who aren't actively exacerbating any depression they might feel. I do it and generating happiness costs me my energy. I shouldn't have to give it to anyone else and they shouldn't loudly exclaim how much they need support from others.
Do it yourself.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>384890476
This is actually true. During the ending of Plastic Memories when Isla dies there was dead silence and it was totally gut wrenching and difficult to watch.

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>>384891023
>>game's soundtrack doesn't use any instrument

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFlkcmtTiTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFvPnqdyJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNG7rRJxoI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr5s9ZHKN6M

>>384906987
I think he has a much wider idea of progress in mind than most people in this thread think. Just listen to what he was doing in 1987.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W04PIzAzfPc

>>384888996
I want crazy stuff like danse profane in my game I don't care if it's distracting. Something that's actually a blast to listen to.

>>384889568
please find me someone better who evokes the same mood. I could use it.

>Games these days have bad instrumental scores

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zndgoac6R3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfATf-aMvbA

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>>384908963
>all that reverb

>>384908329
sounds like garbage, but it's wild and out there and i can respect that.

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>>384890754
>Video game OST peaked in the 90s.

Hahaha no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enmbF7E0F0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QpUGCXwOks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZA_GYYLnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jEVxdm4EGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRyR27l7vks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sScHzQ-k-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W37UV0LA-yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOJ91H4mraU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbBIdO9CIXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJTMy2i6VB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ckR822Wu4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVA2z_zbWwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I82d6NBRFjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9gs5-xb6q8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlp8GimssgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsCXUuQcEc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPUImyNf64w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OUP_Z3iZPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQHLW8zAXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQiHm3V-scI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOKYKid2uPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYcbNnFz378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaLkfX11L9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbVEmzY5S4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ-drpEGRc0

>>384885093
There's a lot of orchestral stuff in RPGs but it's not that narrow of a term, for instance Dark Souls orchestra is really intense and high energy for boss fights. Dunno why he thinks orchestral = sad.

>>384909298
>literally all weeb shit

>>384909298
The original Baroque was released in the late 90s

>>384909508
>western shit
>good

>>384885093
Blizzard used to do some pretty neat music (diablo1 and 2, starcarft, Warcraft..) not sure about modern blizzard games though.

Red alert and cnc series had some cool tracks too, especially the older cnc games (like Tibirian Sun which had some of the coolest tracks in Vidya).

Overall I think like the 90's had the best Vidya music.

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>mfw i am so bored by vidya music now i turn music to 0 and play my own instead

>>384909508
ah yes Far Cry 3 the JRPG I also like the famous japanese zombie game Dying Light

>>384885093
he's not wrong. There is a trend to make game music go full "hollywood" these days. Shit all sounds the same and isn't memorable at all.

>>384909508
There are many western composers in that list. For example Furi, Switch Force, Donkey Kong, Kilelr Instinct, MGS5, Apotheon, Dying Light, FarCry Blood Dragon.
It helps to actually look.

>>384909585
>The original Baroque was released in the late 90s

They have seperate soundtracks, but both are good. So it doesn't really matter.

>>384906283
truth right here

>>384909946
>not sure about modern blizzard games though.

Pretty terrible. Their VA is also garbage now.

Can't wait to hear how they destroyed the VA in the SC1 remaster.

>>384909278
If I remember right it was his first soundtrack and it's definitely not one of his best, but I just thought that track stood out for being unlike anything else in games at the time.

He also composed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmFPA7vcRmc the same year. It's not as unconventional, but it's still definitely something different.

>>384910124
see >>384909298
Does that all sound the same to you?

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>>384909508
>weeb

>>384909508
dumb /v/poster

>>384885093
1: there's nothing wrong with using cliches
2: who gives a shit if they're using orchestra or whatever?

>>384885093
>orchestra is bad
>game music is shit now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHIkUzmNmc0

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>>384885093
Why Japanese take video games so seriously like it's on the same level as film? They're just kids games.

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>it's a "/v/ can't into basic communication so they either take everything literally or assume the worst possible interpretation" episode

>>384910124
Stop supporting Sony if you want this trend to end.

>>384906283
The multiplayer menu theme in Gears is memorable.

>>384911036
How can
>japan is infected with orchestra
be taken in any way other than "stop using orchestra because it's too common" which is contrarianism at its finest

>>384890476
I want to say botw has the most overrated soundtrack ever but I honestly haven't seen people praise it as the best thing ever played by a console until I start shitting on it so it seems people don't really care.

>>384911076
>Stop supporting Sony if you want this trend to end.

Dude, Nintendo is guilty of this as well. Or are you blaming playstation for everything? Sounding awfully biased if that's the case.

>>384891621
soundtracks should at least be noticeable.

the first Injustice soundtrack is the saddest thing in existence. You can barely hear it over all the SFXs

>>384911346
Have a medal?

>>384890476
>A sad scene would be more powerful WITHOUT music at all.

This is factually incorrect. You clearly don't understand how the human brain works.
Proper usage of music can enhance the emotional impact of a scene immensely.

>>384911582
Have some taste?

>>384911427
No they aren't. If your proof is shitty screenshots of youtube vids where cutscenes are 5 hours long that's not the same thing. Nintendo is first and foremost a video game company. Everything Sony makes is pretentious shit filled with leftist propaganda because the devs are all up their own asses trying to make videogames "art."

>>384911567
>soundtracks should at least be noticeable.

I always turn every other sound down by around 20-25% so the music is more noticable in games I play.

However I'm not a fan of more ambient music.

>>384911427
Compare Final Fantasy VII story and production to everything before it. When Square went to Sony they started to be fixated on making movies instead of good RPGs. Sony is fucking cancer and can't wait for the inevitable day they die.

>>384911709
>No they aren'

So you're biased, thanks for letting me know so I dont have to bother with you.
Also the rest of your post was so /v/ sheep like that I couldn't help but laugh. Try thinking for yourself once in a while.

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>>384911427
>>384911908
>B-But Nintendo!!!!!!!

Everytime

Just give me spanish guitars an i'm set for life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0xId_3wIIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k

If i was billionaire my vanity project would be a game with a soundtrack filled with Spanish Guitar

>>384911832
>Compare Final Fantasy VII story and production to everything before it. When Square went to Sony they started to be fixated on making movies instead of good RPGs. Sony is fucking cancer and can't wait for the inevitable day they die.

What does this have to do with Sony?
SquareEnix don't exclusively make games for Sony consoles. You're downright pathetic right now.

>>384912058
>What does this have to do with Sony?

If you weren't a fucking retard you would know the answer to that question.

>>384912019
Missing the point as usual /v/. Then again, expecting intelligence from poster here isn't something you should do.
But by all means, keep memeposting.

>>384889984
Jeremy Soule is the main composer for TES Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim and for NWN1 as well.

but I don't care much about him either. I like Inon Zur better and Paul Anthony Romero as well. their music is far more vivid and varied with much more highs and lows and more emotional impact. Soule takes way too long to say something with his music. it's like a fart that comes out unnoticed and that took it's damn time and was all slight gas. A Romero or Zur fart will make heads turn and you will get high fives for it because it almost achieved meme status.

>>384912139
Well seems like the retard here s you since you seem to think everything is "that damn sony's fault ablu blu". You couldn't be more delusional if you tried. Hopefully you're under the age of 20 at least, so you still have some room left to mature.

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>>384912176
Have an upboat good sir.

>>384911172
>taking it literally
thanks for proving my point, fucknugget. This dude's an artist, not a public speaker. You have to read between the lines. In his elaboration of the point he specifies a specific type of samey, unoriginal orchestra. He then goes on to mourn the lack of progress and originality in game music. It's clear that this is his primary gripe. Rote, uncreative orchestra is just an example of the problem.

Good luck curing your autism. You'll learn the nuance of human conversation eventually.

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>/v/ turning this thread into a system war thread

Fucking retarded manchildren, all of you.

>>384911832
Eh, FFVI was already kind of a transitional game in that regard.

>>384885093
>fedora
lol

>>384912563
There is nothing wrong with old people wearing fedoras

>>384885093
>orchestra is bad
lets just put in techo everywhere

this guy just has shit taste. the problem isn't orchestra, it's that half the of the "composers" for jap games just steal or slightly change existing symphonies

>>384912695
Actual orchestrated music is shit. Midi music or Synth that sounds orchestral is good though and far superior because it sounds like actual video game music.

>>384912695
Says the guy who is probably a fan of recycled orchestral soundtracks and ultra generic ambient shit

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>>384911832
FF6 featured an in-game opera scene and orchestra. But hey, let's blame Sony just to derail this thread.

PS4 is shit senpai

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>>384885093
>fedora

>>384894841
exactly, disturbing, which is a different feeling from sadness

he's retarded, sad music is sad because we perceive that way, you can't make a sad scene "sad" with funny music because it would be funny then

>>384885093
He totally is, I can't think of what it's called but there is a thing in movies where you just play the music to whats happening in the scene.

It is not really WRONG to do this. But it will make your soundtrack forgettable, which is again fine. But I think alot of us prefer the music to stand out.
It's how you get iconic soundtracks
-indiana jones theme
-Starwars
-Harry Potter tune
You get my meaning. Marvel is really bad at this, notice they haven't had a single movie hand a soundtrack stand out.

>>384912789
>Says the guy who is probably a fan of recycled orchestral soundtracks and ultra generic ambient shit
you literally restated what i had said and used it as an insult against me

how are you even alive right now

>>384885093

I agree. Games are trying more to emulate Hollywood dramas and action films and therefore eschew all other music genres other than orchestral to make the soundtrack more "epic."

It's why people continuously praise games like Persona 5 for their soundtrack, because they use a musical motif that is memorable for the simple fact that it's different and isn't trying to compete with Avatar or some shit, not even mentioning that it's pretty good acid jazz to begin with.

>>384912787
This.

>>384913119
>It's why people continuously praise games like Persona 5 for their soundtrack, because they use a musical motif that is memorable for the simple fact that it's different and isn't trying to compete with Avatar or some shit, not even mentioning that it's pretty good acid jazz to begin with.

It's more funk.

>>384912932
except the Iron Man theme. that's a good theme.

>>384912449
>to mourn the lack of progress and originality in game music
as I said, typical contrarianism.

>>384913306
ah yes, they do have that one

>>384912932

There's exactly one MCU background track I remember, and it made the scene it was in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9PhfUsFvj0

>>384913535
Not really contrarianism if its a fair statement, games with unique soundtrack are rare these days.

>>384885093
funny how the only good thing on FFXIII is the ost, would you wanna fuck that up too?

>>384913557
>ah yes, they do have that one

Daredevil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYFh8w4758

>>384913975
hmmm, I'd argue this is pretty forgettable, to me atleast. Could put in to pretty much any crime or heist movie.

>>384913718
see >>384909298
It's not rare at all. Maybe in AAA games but those are minority.

My biggest problem with Dark Souls right here

>>384885093
>that nose

oy vey

>>384888783
>you would also get a lot of Blue Dragon boss fights in this trade.
That would be fucking great

>>384913975
that show even worth watching? the first episode was extremely boring to me and felt cliche. also it felt way too gloomy to be entertaining

name a single game that utilizes math rock

>>384914537
>that show even worth watching? the first episode was extremely boring to me and felt cliche. also it felt way too gloomy to be entertaining

Yes. Both seasons are good. Season 2 is worth watching for Punisher alone.

>>384914664
Mario Kart 64 has tons of jazz fusion that ends up bordering on math rock at times

>>384885093
The orchesta music in RPG's starts with FFVI... but he's right, now it's abusing that thing completly

>AAA games have bad music

Where the fuck do these dweebs come from? Halo, FF, C&C series, heck even CoD have a more haunting and dark soundtrack than fucking Dark Souls and Bloodborne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAAaLNPAw4g

>>384889131
100% correct

>>384912031
This is amazing.

>>384885093
Orchestral is ok

Like say, if you are dropping on a bug planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk

Fuck this nip

RIP basil poledouris

>>384889131

All he said was trying to oversell a sad scene with orchestral schlock is a problem with Japanese compositions.

>>384906283
I can't remember much from newer Mario games but nothing from new Pokemon games.
Sonic is just a corpse that is just there to fund Crush40 or whatever they're called

There are few games that leave an impression with their music and/or sound design nowadays.
Silent Hill had fucking banjos.

At least we can all agree that Evergrace has the best soundtrack ever, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJbuHUbw8k
I actually, unironically love it though

>>384914191
your problem with dark souls is that music doesn't make you cry?

https://youtu.be/-zxM_2h8sgw?t=32
Is this sad music?

>>384885093
I don't know. the music seemed pretty fitting and beautiful for me and having something like this be the way the game ends makes it even more powerful, I shed a tear when I saw/heard this for the first time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVDTqnUQNa4

>>384888584
Just to be clear, you're saying that the death scene for Trish in Devil May Cry was and is an industry standard. That's what you're saying.

>>384889887
I'd hate to have that friend

>>384916002
btw this is the scene of Chopin's death

>>384916002
This is so pretentious.

>>384915918
No, it's that I'm sick and fucking tired of "epic minor-key orchestral swells accompanied by sultry vocal lines from solo female choir member". DS deserves better

I want a Dark Souls re-release with a soundtrack completely scored by Jonny Greenwood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Al5i_cwsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1EueTAHRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWqVSIxUBc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMPylWRqzPg&list=PL4BgxdqZvDe0A-a_UTucr0lVSh2-7KSHU&index=1

>>384889887
>movie music

Literally a meme so that people don't end up liking a movie for the soundtrack.
So directors wanted bland tracks that just underline a moment. If a movie is good it's all thanks to the great director

>>384889680
>>384889887
Hans Zimmer is undeniably garbage. I swear most of his praise must come from name recognition alone

I think his Interstellar soundtrack is the best example of what's wrong with him. That soundtrack has a few really great moments on it, namely that one big swell of the organ, but that moment is used over and over again ad nauseum until the end of the movie. Other than those moments, it's soulless, flaccid orchestral fuckery that he continues to rattle off for blockbusters again and again

>>384915848
I love the soundtrack too, even though the game looks pretty bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm17vgmh854

>>384917324
It really surprised me how blatantly he ripped off Philip Glass for that score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OacVy8_nJi

>>384918361
Whoops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OacVy8_nJi0

>>384885093
He's more or less the opposite of correct.

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>modern vidya and anime is soulless garbage to appeal to the masses
>vidya crash soon
>at some point it will all go back to small studios making things that appeal to niche fanbases

>>384920035
Hasn't the crash already started pretty much? This market is more over-saturated than freshman year cocaine

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>>384920035

>yet people will still pirate them to obivlion.

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>ask mu for good catchy music
>have to literally explain I can only listen to catchy music
>they post their garbage indie progressive rock and avant garde or orchestral shit
>tell them I don't like music without a strong melody
>show them SNES FF music
>they call me a pleb
>they make fun off me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWYKcogaNhE

man, what's wrong with such music?

>>384921194
Nothing, Uematsu is a great composer.

>>384921194
>Going to /mu/
That was your first mistake

>>384921554
>>384921585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1QgLqWb0rE

man, FFVI is like making the sixtine chappel using kids crayons.

He's the reason why I've always dreamed about making music.

>>384885093

i was about to say jsr but then remembered thats been within 20 years. Hes right.

>>384921194
>"tell them I don't like music without a strong melody"
>being able to articulate what you want musically
I respect you anon

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It would be nice if there was just no BGM with the sad scene and make it feel causal

>>384889828
>videogames are not that smart of an artform.

yeah so let's keep perpetuating that by using shitty music you mong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEuNySeWQy0

have you ever heard of the phrase less is more

>>384890613

fuck me if that ain't right

What are some JRPGs that have orchestral soundtracks? I can't think of any besides Dragon Quest.

>tfw Koichi Sugiyama is now pleb-tier

What went so wrong bros?

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>>384922518
>reading comprehension

I'm not saying that we should not improve videogames as an artform, I'm saying games as they are now are still a babby medium thats dumb as fuck and the people who try to act intelligent by criticizing a babby medium are also probably fucking dumb too

Can you imagine a guy as old as the guy in the OP webm watching an episode of teletubbies and then being interviewed saying: "man that show is fucking stupid, they used all these dumb childrens tropes like friendship and shit"

what the fuck are you guys expecting

>>384923831
Dragon Quest music is generic and boring as shit.

>>384924247
That's a spicy hot take, neo-/v/

hes wearing a fedora of course hes right

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>>384889131
>"orchestra doesn't really convey the feeling of sadness it should anymore"
>So dos dat miin we shud pley hapi music insted
This is your brain on weeb

>>384924998
That's not even what he said you autist

>>384926771
Yes it fucking is, he set up a false dichotomy between playing sad orchestral music during a sad scene and playing upbeat happy music

>>384920035
Anime doesn't appeal to the masses at all though, 90% of it is niche otakubait shit. It's the exact opposite problem but still a problem.

>>384885093
Can we ban all "Is he/she,dare i say it" posters already.

Fuck off

>>384924225
>Can you imagine a guy as old as the guy in the OP webm watching an episode of teletubbies
OGR isn't just a random old guy though, he did some very good game soundtracks. He's just a little disappointed that there didn't end up being many more composers in the field with a mindset like his.

>At the time, it was pretty adventurous to use avant-garde rhythms and irregular meter in game music, but I remember telling one of my juniors at the company that “a few years from now, this kind of thing will be everywhere,” so… I mean, I think I just wanted to destroy something, and saw Darius as an opportunity to wipe out what was considered common sense in game music at the time and recreate things from the ground up.

>>384889131
>OBVIOUSLY HE MUST WANT EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE COMMON SOLUTION INSTEAD OF SOMETHING EQUALLY SOMBER

how can you be this retarded?

>>384885093
Is ZAAA supposed to be inception horn? cause if it is then yes absolutely he is right.

he's not wrong. somewhat how like MMOs haven't really advanced in any meaningful way and in most cases regressed. orchestra is overrated for most things, but that's not to say you can't use a violin with some other instruments and create something new

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What the guy is talking about is the abuse of cliched orchestral in certain scenes. Just play through any fucking final fantasy game and you'll see what he's talking about. That's not to say he's entirely correct either, Orchestra is a powerful genre of music and can be used brilliantly if implemented correctly (see Ludwig's boss fight in bloodborne) and he's also wrong with the game music stagnating. Play through any of the Drakengard or Nier games and you can see that there is still innovation with game music. Also I don't know whether or not that. "There is nothing more cliche than playing sad music to a sad scene" is an odd translation because that sounds ridiculous.

TLDR: You're all faggots.

I feel old.

I remember when having an orchestral OST was a point that game mags pointed out everytime.

>>384889131
>All of these replies to this post playing devil's avocado to an inherently wrong statement.

>>384929202
I think a part of the problem with modern JRPG music is that people are actually trying to copy Uematsu without thinking. Uematsu himself is a hardcore Vienna school/Schubert/Tchaikovskiy fanboy, so FF music is basically 8/16/32-bit Romanticism with a twist here and there. But when FF sold big other people tried aping Uematsu without living and creating through his sources, so we've got a lot of cliched, cannibalistic shit scores.
Japs still do game music better than Westerners though.

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>>384914256
oh fuck
i cant unsee it now
fuck you

>>384891621
Well that's what I believe in. The last thing I want is a soundtrack that might as well not be there. Leave that to your artsy indie shit. BotW has some great tracks when they're actually there and not just subdued piano plonking that end in 3 notes from an old Zelda theme.

Japs still have a great "new strange" wave of game OSTs, like fucking Masafumi Takada.

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>>384920035
>vidya crash soon

This is what /v/irgins actually believe

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>>384909298
>Danger - 6:24
Whole OST is great too

>>384885093
I think he's completely wrong, music in gaming has evolved immensely, though it hasn't evolved universally, and I'm talking about interactive soundtracks that show up in games here and there. You go play Journey and tell me you weren't swept away by how expertly timed that dynamic music is.

>>384885093
I never seen a british slash japanese guy before

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Why don't more games use an orchestral techno type soundtracks?

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She does it right.

>>384935048
shimomura is a self-professed europop lover tho. she gives no fucks about classical classical music. whether that's pleb or patrician as fuck, you decide.

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>>384885093
Does Japan not have dentists?