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Start playing Guilty Gear
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>>384877801
No.
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>>384877801
got blazblue cf instead
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I did, I play as Jam, but I'm not very good at fighting games.
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>>384877972
My man
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My faggoty fucking friends won't practice rev2 so i'm stuck here being terrible with no practice buddy since I just get destroyed online.
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>>384877971
I got it too a couple of days ago. I constantly get blown up online.
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>>384877801
But I do.

I even play sol because I like to make people lament their lives when they get into a corner.
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>>384877801
I did
I am very bad
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>>384877972
I really want to play someone slower, like Slayer or Baiken, I don't like rush

But Jam just feels so right, so responsive. Every other char after her feels like a snail
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>>384877801
I will when you stop taking my money and then killing my purchase by releasing a new version of my purchase and demanding I pay for it.
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>>384877801
>he plays Guilty Gear
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If ranked was active I could actually practice instead of getting destroyed by people with 800 hours in rooms.
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>>384877801
I'm absolutely fucking terrible at it. Slayer is pretty cool tho.
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I WANT TO ____ SOL BADGUY
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>>384878942
ROCK
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>>384877801
no, they ruined dizzy's costume
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Nah, it looks difficult.
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>>384878942
lift with
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I barely win normal arcade-mode using Hakumen in BB
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>>384878942
cuddle!
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>>384877801

nah, its a shit game.
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>>384877801
But I suck at Guilty Gear.
And air dashers in general.
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>tfw enjoy playing fighting games
>no friends to play with
>suck ass
:(
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>>384877801
You mean
GET UP TO ROCK!
GET UP TO BURN!
STAND WITH THE PRIDE
AND BURN FOR YOUR DESIRE
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Whats the difference of GG sigh and revelator? (they were in one bundle on sale)
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>>384877801
why would I when dbz is on the way?
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>>384877801
I'm debating whether I should pick up Rev 2 tomorrow or next payday. Stick is still in the mail.

>>384877972
>>384878059
This is reassuring; I was worried everyone playing online is really good. If I couldn't ride the line between stomping people like you and getting rekt by the actually good players, there'd be no point.
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How do you even start to learn a fighting game? I always get overwhelmed with all the mechanics and terms that I don't know where to begin.
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>>384879436
Do as much of your character's challenge mode as you can, then play against AI and try to replicate the combos there.
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>>384879436
There's plenty of Youtube videos. I'd recommend learning the basics (movement), then motions/specials, then cancelling and other advanced stuff. Realize that you won't learn this in a week or even a month and it will take effort to learn. If you're okay with that, enjoy the game.
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mfw I realize Sol literally bites the bullet
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>>384877801
I did
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>>384879304
Bump
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>>384879008
No they didn't
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>>384879306
Practicing guilty gear will probably carry over some skill to dbz
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>>384878942
Befriend.
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>>384879304
Anything except Revelator + Rev 2 DLC should be purchased for story purposes only.
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>>384879008
>not knowing how to unlock her old costume
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Nice dead fighting game, faggots.

Go back to SFV. You fags have nothing else to play or you're left behind.
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I'd rather play BB. Anyone got a good Noel guide?
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>tfw the only people playing these kind of games a month after release are those who are good at them

How are you even supposed to get decent when everyone you can play against are way above your level?
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That anime shit is for pussies. Turn it off.
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>>384877801
I don't have money for it on Steam otherwise I would
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Wish I had friends to play fitin games with : <
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>>384879258
I know that feel. The one friend I used to play them with stopped playing them with me cause I'm too good though. He doesn't like practicing them (I do) so that's why I eventually became unbeatable to him. Other than that none of my friends like fighting games at all
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>>384880006
everyone except the top players with backdoor access to new Capcom games and builds is already left behind
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Which version is actually more alive ps4 or steam? I'm from Europe btw.
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>>384880484
Not true. The pros follow the money. The top players follow the pros since they have a shot at beating them for money and glory. The high level players follow the top level players for the challenge. The mid and low level players follow the high level players so they can improve themselves. The people left behind are forced back into the endless cycle since they have nowhere to go and no one to play with.

It's how SFIV killed 3rd Strike, and it's how SFV killed USF4.
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>>384877801
No
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>>384880832
and SFV is slowly killing itself because of how poorly it was made
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Play Under night instead
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>>384880832
>not true
top players turned esports icons have already logged time into versions of MvCI that the general public hasn't had access to. buying fighters from that company is basically donating to established pros and twitch channels, fuck them. play GG
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>>384877801
But I don't wanna
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>>384880893
>killing itself

And Capcom just needs to release SSFV and suddenly everyone will forget what happened.
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>>384880979
new content can't fix that game. it's garbage down to its roots.
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>>384880979
when they actually ruined the flow of gameplay no amount of new content cant fix that
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>>384881057
Who said it needed to be fixed? All that matters is that people play it.

Or did you miss the call of duty era
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Where are my potemkin bros at?
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>>384880124
Yeah, play Mu-12 instead.
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>tfw finally started to play Sol properly
>tfw conditioning my opponent so I WT him more
>tfw my fafnir counter fishing works
>tfw hitting those dustloops in the corner


RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>384877801
I did and no one plays it...
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God playing Slayer gets my dick rock hard.
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>>384881245
What is Potemkin's actual weakness?

I only ever win against Potemkin because people and, even the cpu on Maniac difficulty, don't have the reflexes to punish every jump and projectile I use while they menacingly walk toward me. I feel like Potemkin played perfectly has no counter. His charge dash move absorbs an attack, his anti-air grab has massive range, and his finger flick even works on specials.
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>>384881285
but why
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>>384880124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyXwh4_nJL8
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>>384881683
>BBC
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>>384877801
What's the deal with BlazBlue and Guilty Gear?
They're by the same people, but in different universes?
It's not a Mega Man and Mega Man X type situation, for example?
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>>384882175
No and they aren't by the same people just under the same company. Director wise anyways.
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>>384877801
No
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>>384879297
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>>384877801
I did, been learning Zato for a few weeks now and it's a pleasant suffering
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>>384882250
Sankyu, so it's kind of like Dino Crisis and Resident Evil, same company same genre but not connected.
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>>384882471
i just came here to reply to that... AWESOME
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>>384878942
Be a bro with
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>>384882727
I guess you could put it like that.
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Bang Shishigami and Axl Low are best bois.
But how do I into Slayer?
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>>384882471
Danger time is the single most pointless mechanic I've ever seen in a fighting game, even Active Flow seems like a good idea compared to that piece of shit
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>>384880124
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>>384882471
I haven't seen any of these in Xrd, good to see them again. Looks even better with the new clash system.
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>>384883238
Agreed. Both active flow and danger time are shit but the latter is definitely worse.
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>>384882358
>>384878364
>>384883238
>Playing a character that's been completely mutilated.
i dont know why fingerless glove reddit snekman players still exist, he sucks so fucking bad now lol..
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>>384878942
Discuss science with
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>>384881651
Incest murderbots are cute
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weeb faggotry
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>>384877801
I do play it.
My mains are Johnny and Venom, and I have a pocket Slayer, Sol, Ky.
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I can't play competitive games without raging so as much as I love GG I can only watch it
even offline I'll get mad and discouraged if I'm constantly losing so there's no hope for me
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>>384877801
Bought it few days ago actually
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I just bought Rev 2 about five minutes ago. As an entry level player, what am I in for? Can I find other beginners?
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>>384883770
Hazama is getting some pretty meaningful buffs next patch, Houtenjin is finally good again
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>>384883238
do people really hate danger time that much? has arcsys ever acknowledged it?
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>>384884215
Just go into tutorials and start learning.
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>>384877801
I dont have thje most recent version and i dont want to spend full price on a game thats going to get another revision 6 month down the line.
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>>384877801
You first.
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>>384877801
I gave one of them a try on PS2 a few days ago, had fun with it, but by time I was on my 7th fight my thumb felt like it was about to fall off because there was no option to use analog.
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>>384884280
He's literally so bad I stopped playing BB at CPEX. No point in coming back desu when Xrd swags so much more and has less homosexuals/weebs at locals/majors.
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Is it active on PS4/PS3 or everyone plays on PC?
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>>384884215
Glad to hear that. You may ant to try out the in-game tutorial first then go pick up characters that you're interested in. trying all of them is suggested.

The characters usually suggested to try for newbies are Ky, Sol, Sin, May, Elphelt, Raven and Faust as they have straightforward game plan. If you come from Street Fighter, Ky will be the best character to learn the game with as he's not only intuitive, he's also high tier.

The online for this game is a lot more subdued that other fighters like SF and Tekken, mainly because no one plays Ranked and people schedule their lobbies and player matches. You can use the GG discord to ask for games, as well as visit the sub discord of your characters for advice and tech, just ask nicely. There are a lot of newbies asking for help too because of post_EVO hype and the recent sale
https://discord.gg/0XHAUY5AppITX2Yo

Again, if you come from Street Fighter, you may want to watch these videos as they can ease you in with GG's fast paced gameplay, and even if this is your first fighter, its still a ton of help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKMCOU9_Po&list=PLj34EySs1IeZ8GpjKW8R2T6dzI6B3GSuH

Happy playing!
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Does PC have all the content that the PS4 version has?
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>>384884601
Japanese players are more active on console. PC has a very active EU scene for some reason. The PC scene also has an overall lower skillgap to those in consoles because Japs dont play on PC.

>>384884756
Yes
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>>384884851
So being in EU with PS4 version I'm either fucked by connection or by high tier players? I will never be good at these games. I got this and hori memestick mini to finally try something more than playing arcade games for fun which I do for years
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>>384884667
>discord
Man I knew I'd have to join a discord server to find games but that still kinda sucks. That guide looks really good though so I'll be sure to follow that. I heard Ky can teach some bad habits. Is that true?
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>>384877801
I did and do, I enjoy it but i fucking suck, been playing remlethal
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I bought sign collector's edition for 25 moosebux on amazon. It hasn't arrived yet. Was that a good deal?
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>>384885196
I want to play ram too but I hear she's really tough. Do you just play lobby matches? If you're on PS4 we can play some time if you'd like.
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>>384885096
>Discord
Such is the fate of all fighting games that isn't Street Fighter, tekken or Killer Instinct. it's something that you have to live with since no one plays ranked in anime fighters.
>Ky
>bad habits
of course not; he's the Ryu of the game. He has very good normals and tools that make him versatile but he's not really a gorilla like Sol; Greed Sever is Unblockable Online memes aside.

>>384885049
Well; high tier players are really isolated in japanese lobbies so you dont have to worry about getting rekt online most of the time. For connection, i live in Asia and have atleast 4-5f delay connections with East Coast so I guess its decent.
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>>384881578
You have to pressure potemkin hard and don't respect him too much. He basically has no good reversal and his normal are too slow to smash out. Use safe fast normal when pressure him to avoid him backdash reversal or absorbed by hammerfall . YRC projectiles if you gonna throw at him in mid range so that if he hammerfall he will get punished. Don't do high commit single hit normal or special without meter to RC or you will eat shit. His huge hurt box will make sure he eat extra pressure in every situation. He's also to a lot of air dash pressure as he's super tall so that there's specific air pressure that work against him.

Certain characters just naturally have all the tool to run a train on him such as Zato, axl, or venom
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>>384880159
Accept you'll lose for a while. Like really that's it, I just decided to up my game and play against people who are clearly better than me. 2 hours of failing to take a round and only getting people low I started taking a few rounds here and there.
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>>384878113
Yeah, same. Got it for £7 on the psn sale.

Want to practice together?
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>>384885313
Ramlethal is a trap for newcomers that like her design (which is incredible) but can't handle her playstyle (which is complex and an uphhill struggle). I usually recommend that new players should use whoever they want, rather than simply going with the basic Ky or Sin or Raven, but honestly Ram is a bad choice for most people
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>>384885352
> worry about greed server
> not 5 frame scum dipper slide
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>>384877801
Gladly.
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>>384879421
>>384880159
There's a lot of new player, actually. Maybe because of the DBFZ announcement.
>How are you even supposed to get decent when everyone you can play against are way above your level?
By losing and learning.

>>384880691
PC is supposed to be more alive on EU. But can't confirm.

>>384885297
Anon... Sign is an outdated version. The playerbase is in Rev2. Although the imited edition is pretty nice, I'm even considering getting one even though I only have a PC, just for being able to have an actual box and disc.
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>>384885352
Ky is one of the least honest characters in the game you shitter.
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>>384885352
>tfw you play sol and just go full unga

I know I need to stop. But it's so satisfying, you can feel the fear even if they beat you consistently. They never go full disrespect.
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>>384885548
Potemkin is the one matchup I will never learn even though I play Venom. Despite having played for years I've never taken a match off a decent or above Potemkin player. The ones I've played against can perfectly flick almost all my pool balls, blitz my oki et cetera. Then I get put in the corner and 6K looped to death.
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>>384886372
are the story modes any good in these games? can i play the old ones with rev 2?
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>>384886196
You always block low and react to the j.D or Greed Sever. The thing is, GS for some reason always connects, especially online. That thing is annoying to react to alongside Faust 6H
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>>384886831
They are literally 5 hour anime movies using the in-game engine, anon. I think you have to buy them as DLC for Rev 2 though; Sign's story mode is only available in Sign, then Revelator continues exactly 1 day after the events in Sign. Rev 2 is a more slice of life-after the big battle kind of fluff.
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>>384886831
>are the story modes any good in these games?
They are about 4~5 hours of story without filler fights. I like the format a lot. The story is entertaining but nothing amazing, just a shounen.

>can i play the old ones with rev 2?
Nope, SIGN's story is only available in SIGN.
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>>384886831
They're basically just visual novels with some animation. They're pretty cool though. And no, SIGN is separate.
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>>384887036
>I think you have to buy them as DLC for Rev 2 though

Nah they're patching the epilogues in.
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How the FUCK can I do a parry attack after the S+HS block? The timing is so god damn stingy, should I hold S+HS and start spamming P around the time I think he'll attack, or do I truly need to practice and guess the exact frame to press a button after a parry?
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>>384887330
Azami was a mistake
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>>384887330
The uppercut followup is very lenient after the Parry. When you parry an attack you can just spam P and you should get the uppercut move. The stab and the crossup dash counter is stricter though, you really have to anticipate the attack so you can parry>S/K on reaction
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Where are my Venon and Robo-Ky adventures?
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>jam vs may
ears were a mistake
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>>384887781
After story B in Rev 2 was their "adventure"
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>>384878037
I love Jam's torpedo tits so much, no artists ever fucking get them right
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>>384887958
here, anon, have this
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>>384888202
oh how I love you so
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I've heard guilty gear is one of the more intimidating fighting games to get into, and that the populations are usually lower than other games as a result.
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>>384883770
Joke's on you, I play Susan
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I'm not autistic enough for fighting games.
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>>384888537
For an anime fighter, the population in Guilty Gear is great, but the genre is niche overall
All fighting games are intimidating. GG has amazing tutorials to teach the fundamentals of fighting games, but it's still going to require some effort and dedication
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>>384888537
That's actually exaggerated IMO. I think Tekken is harder in a sense that its way harder to get better in that game because of a lot of factors you have to consider. It's an easier game to pick up and play though.

GG is the kind of game that requires you to find players of roughly the same skill level though. Its good fighting players of high skill level so you can get better, but too high that may result in curbstomps wont be a rewarding experience because you wont be able to find the mistakes you made or where they got you. This is true for a lot of fighting games but is especially true for this game.
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>>384886890
Greed server connects crouching opponent at like frame 22 which is only marginally better than 5D. But then 5d hit all the time online as well. It's relatively not as difficult to block as many overhead like leo, millia, or jam if you are focus on blocking. However, it can hop over many attack and also have fairly long active hit box in the air so many times it hit when it hop over an opponent smashing something to get out of pressure or catching a button or movement during a skirmish situation.

Scum dipper is surprisingly get overlooked as the "dishonest" move when it's so fast, low profile and unreactable even offline, and also RC let Ky have a free combo or a free pressure on hit or block.
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>>384889015
I meant marginally better than some 5D's. Ky 5D is not that fast
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Johnny best character best husbando best everything

(captcha: select all the sunglasses, checks out)
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>>384877801
Do I need a six button pad or can I get by using a regular PS4 pad?
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NO BRIDGET NO BUY
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>>384889116
Wow you're super wrong. Ky is objectively better looking and clearly a better husband. He defends the fuck outta his woman.
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>>384879258
>>384880319

It feels bad. My friends like videogames but they're all normies playing assfaggots and hearthstone, noone of them wants to practice a fighting game... It's a shame really.

But i play with my brother so that's cool. He's not that good though and doesn't practice a lot...Still fun but it would be funnier if he got better.
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>>384888735
>slower Azrael
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>>384889248
Best part.

>>384889240
It's a four button game, though you'll want a fifth to macro cancels.
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>>384889248
Typical gay pretty white knight, raiden tier character really. Take your faggotry somewhere else and let real men enjoy the sheer coolitude of Johnny

Also ky is an unga bunga character while Johnny requires dem skillz
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>>384889240
Pad player here. I used a Hori FC4 for playing GG. It's a 6 button pad but I usually map the buttons so that the inner 2 buttons arent used and the 4 outer buttons are the only ones used alongside shoulder buttons. It's ok; the DPAD is also responsive, but the thing gets worn out within 1-2 years of use. The DPAD becomes really mushy and affects sensitivity to te point that it might go to a direction you arent even pressing.

i've later switched to DS4. The DPAD doesnt feel as great as the Hori one, but the buttons have a satisfying feel and best of all its quite tough and takes a long time to take a beating.
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>>384881578
He is slow, movement and normals wise, and he has no reversals, you can shit on him easily at any distance with safe normals
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>>384889284
Let me live the dream, I've waited since CT to play a 100% Snek
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>>384887047
>>384887039
>>384887036
are they worth picking up the old games for or should i just watch them on youtube
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What's the best song?
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>>384889350
GG is 5 buttons, punch, kick, slash, heavy slash, and dust.
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>>384889240
>googled image
>$7
I don't believe it.

Are there good Sega Saturn pads compatible with PS4? I'm sure there are 50 different copycats so I don't know which ones are crap and which ones are actually good.
I tried playing with pic related through a Xim4 but it didn't recognize it .
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>>384889746
bridget's
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>>384889587
By old games you mean Accent Core and earlier? The story modes in those games are really just visual novels no longer than 10 minutes per character in classic arcade fighter fashion. Only in Xrd Sign that they decided to go the full cinematic story mode route. I would suggest just watch SIGN's storymode on YT, maybe read up some lore on earlier games then buy Rev 2 and watch Revelator's story mode which continues from SIGN. It's anime, takes itself seriously at times but knows how to execute it well. May start out a bit slow but when the action kicks in, it really kicks in.

>>384889746
Stolz, Lily of Steel, Bao Babel Nose, Jack-A-Dandy for Xrd
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>>384889746
Freesia!
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>>384883294
>>384881683
is learning her worth it tho? just read that she is supposed to be super bad. but i do like her the most after trying several chars in challenge mode
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>>384889872
She's super bad, but she is getting some buffs in the upcoming patch that could make her decent. It's hard to say before the patch is out.
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>>384889872
Why are you playing? If it's too win tournaments maybe don't learn her. If it's to have fun, and you have fun playing her, it course learn her.
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>>384889746
It's say it's a tie between Starry story, Original bet, Just do it and jack a dandy
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>>384889974
>>384889942
yeah im just gonna roll with her. i like the guns too much and i am only at starter level anyways so not like it matters yet
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>>384886095
Is she a trap because she'll teach you bad habits like Leo, or is she just hard? I started out with Ram and I never had much of a problem multitasking with her swords. Granted I'm still at an obscenely low level, but I don't have any issue beating my friends with her.
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>>384889746
Freesia is a legit good song
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>>384891065
She's just hard. She has top tier pressure and okizeme but the real challenge is getting in
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>>384889746
Baiken's.

>>384891065
Just hard imo. She has a really strong oki and corner carry but her neutral is mediocre at best. Her oki is but far not as easy to do effectively as with Leo.
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>>384889974
>>384889942
Can you guys tell me tho what exactly makes her weaker than other chars? would be cool to know why she is considered weak and work around that
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>>384891065
Not bad habits, really. If you can handle multitasking with her swords, you'll be totally fine sticking with her, but it seems to be too much for most people.
And you're right about Leo, he's a fucking magnet for scrubs and idiots
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>>384889746
Bao Babel Nose
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Sucks no GG characters in Arcsys first genuine crossover, but that's due to their sprites being fuck-old and the series having moved to 3D.

Though just wait until the next crossover game when GG is added, as well as Persona 5 characters seeing by then Persona 5 Arena will have been released and probably have 3D models.
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>>384877801
I can no longer get into it ever since XX Reload, that was the last one I liked.
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>>384891651
If they do BBxGG then they'll probably make BB characters jump to 3D for it and not include other franchises
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>>384877801
Add back Testament and I will
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>>384891445
Her normal attacks are weak and risky, so it's hard for her to be effective in neutral. She can have big combos, but they're all a series of many weak hits, which gives little damage but also gives your opponent a ton of meter. Speaking of which, Ram only builds meter from sword hits, so she generally builds less meter than any other character, leaving her with less defensive options or offensive opportunities. But she's sexy
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>>384891743

I mean afterwards Cross Tag Battle 2 is gonna be made, seeing by then the BB and Persona 5 cast will have 3D models.

Don't know about UNIB. Franchise isn't popular enough for a graphic change.
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>>384891921
>Persona 5 cast will have 3D models
That doesn't really mean anything since the models are made in a very different way for Xrd compared to other 3D games.
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>>384891842
I think theyre talking about Noel from BB
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>>384892001

Why wouldn't P5A be 3D? I mean it's basically gonna be P4A going next-gen.
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>>384891651
That and BB hasn't ended yet. The dev has said there would be an announcement in 2 years and it's too big in Japan to die yet

No Ragna though, that's pretty much guaranteed
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>>384877971
>playing Brazebrew
>ever

Por que!?
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>>384889746
Awe of She
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>>384892015
Fucking hell.
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>>384892226

>BB hasn't ended.
You did play Central Fiction right?
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>>384886095
>>384891489
I can confirm that Ram is very easy for begginers. She auto combos and moves forward automatically with K and P spam, while with other characters you attack once and then need to microdash or chose a longer range attack, which is harded than spamming 2 buttons with no directional input.
Also her super (the laser one) eats 1/5th of your opponent's HP even if they block because of the crazy chip damage. Even if they manage to jump they'll still probably get caught by it while falling.

Of course I'm sure at an intermediate level (and up) she's much harder to play because everyone knows how to block/dodge/move around better and you'll need to rely on her full kit, but for the first 20 hours (when no one can do normal combos, much less air combos or instant air dashing or using any kind of defense other than normal blocking) she's a very easy pick, you don't even need to care about her 6S and 6HS attacks, just use 2S / 2HS in the middle of your K and P spam, while using her meter on the laser whenever you can and you're golden.
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>>384877801
Buy it for me
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>Sol gets to fuck this every night
>Elphelt is stuck with Rams sloppy seconds

Truly the best end
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>>384892346
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/evo-2017-blazblue-developer-interview
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>you will never be good at fightan
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>>384880124
Join the Noel discord, it has a decent resources tab.
A few people in it are also pretty good and helpful, though far from all of them are.
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>>384892613
At least El's now free to find love. Besides, I'm wondering if Aria will still have a Gear body because she rejected the initial resurrection. If so Frederick and her have 200+ years of make up sex to catch up on, and both would be living organisms with no physical limitations on strength or endurance.
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>>384892830
I-I-I'l just play smash bros where I an jump all I want
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Why does nobody play Dizzy.
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>>384892174
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>>384893498
She requires effort
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>>384893498
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>>384893498
She sucks
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>>384884298
I do, that shit is honestly worst than ultras in sf4 to me, worst of all is that happens at random.
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I like this game but there's so many unfunny characters

like raven, leo, sol, ky, dizzy, bedman, sin...

They're so bland, their fighting style is annoying... No fun to play/play against
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>>384893498
Because she's pretty hard to play. I tried to pick her up when I first started playing but was pretty overwhelmed by how many fucking special moves she has.
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>>384877801
I want to, but I'm very bad at fightan games.

I think the only fightan I've ever been able to play to any capacity has been Soul Calibur.
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>>384894046
GG has the best tutorial in the genre. They explain things to you as if this is the first time you've ever picked up a controller, so they break down the game mechanics and combo systems excellently for newbies!
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Beginner Jam player here. What should I practice, in order of importance?
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>>384895635
UNIST just came out and the tutorial is fucking mindblowingly good.
It explains shit like frame advantage, punishable moves vs safe moves, kara throws, and option selects.
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>>384895664
Here's a basic guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17F30d6lW7IXFTgaFTR9Rb9DDC8fYCC9pzeNdrn3H3KY/mobilebasic
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>>384895873
No wonder since ASW is responsible for console versions
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>>384896172
I fucking love you, anon.
Thanks!
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i don't really play this, but i'd like to get back into it, should i update to rev 2.
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>>384896495
oh and did they make slayer any better.
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>>384896223
No prob anon. I just started learning her too. Not sure if the guide mentions this or not, but puffball super in the corner is a good oki option; it leaves you at frame advantage, cranks the risc gauge, and eats through faultless defense.
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>>384877801
I bought Sign and then they released Revelator as a separate game at full price. Fuck that.
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>>384896578
Yes
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>>384896578
also does anyone have a guide to git gud, only fightan I play is ST, 3s, and 98.
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I can't, it's too hard. The tutorial whooped my ass.
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>>384896662
how much better.
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>>384889246

>Dizzy players say this
>Rev doesn't see an increase in players
>Baiken players say this
>Rev 2 sees no increase in players
>Bridget players say this
>????
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>>384896745
When you bite someone your next special move/overdrive is a counterhit
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>>384896725
You can do it anon, I believe in you.
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>>384877801

Yes Mr. Badguy.

(Funny enough, recently got some free time, and downloaded the Rev 2 update.)

Played a lot of May before Order Sol came out back in the day. How good is May nowadays? I know she was kinda shit in Xrd Sign.
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>>384897507
The only "bad" character in GG is Potemkin (and even despite that there are some players who are amazing with him). As long as you are good enough it doesn't matter who you play. Leo is considered low tier and was second at evo
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>>384893556
>you will never stick your nose in and smell Sol's armpit
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>>384897660
Pot got majorly buffed in rev 2, there's no way he's the worst in the game anymore.
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>>384881297

>3 chests
>12 packs
>Blade wings

vs

>twig torso
>dual wielding blades

SOS BADDAD ain't got shit on LOL GUYYUG
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>>384897660
Mm, I think the general consensus is that Answer is the current worst character.
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>>384897660
More like one notable Pot player who's been playing him since the dawn of time and still never actually managed to win anything throughout Xrd with him and falls like a rock in water whenever he runs into a top level Sin
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i enjoy the game but the only character i enjoy playing is johnny and hes way too hard to play.
really dont feel like losing 10 hours of my day just so i can do a bread and butter combo thats only 5 hits.
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>>384897809
Who would you say is? I don't mean this in a confrontational way I just want to know your opinion
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>>384896725
Do you mean the simple movement and high low attack tutorial or all the missions after that? If the latter then you don't have to do all of them, if the former then yeah you are fucked
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i will when they put rev 2 on sale
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>>384892613
Ram X Sin is the patrician pairing
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>>384898017
It's not that hard to get the muscle memory for combos down and it becomes MUCH easier the more you play. Like it really only takes like 30 minutes to an hour a day and you'll have it down pack within a week easily. Even sooner if you're a quick learner. The hard part is less so the combos and more so learning how to beat someone in neutral and read their decisions.
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>>384879436
Look up the Guilty Gear Crash Course on Youtube. It will teach you the fundamentals that will apply to every character and to most other fighting games out there.
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>>384892015
Everything he said actually does apply to Noel though.
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>>384879436
You keep it simple at first and gradually add other mechanics to your gameplan as you get used to the ones you are already using.
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>>384898360
i was practicing the johnny bnb from unlimited brett works and i practiced the first video double coin combo for like 4 hours and still cant get it 5 times in a row.
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pc rev 2 room id ?
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how do i beat people with ky without having to rely on scum dipper/greed server/grinder-projectilespam

i can do all the combos in the guide pretty easily but it seems the only way to get solid openings with this shit against good players is to abuse his cheese.
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>>384898350
I think I might have to agree
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>>384898902
I find it's easier to train hard combos like that in smaller bit sized portions. If you do it for hours then you get tilted or mentally exhausted and you learn nothing, while if you train it in smaller portions like an hour, take an hour or two break try again for another hour you get a different perspective since your mind is refreshed and less tilted from failing for hours.

Google the Pomodoro Technique.
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>>384897313
who the actual fuck used the bite
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>>384899060
Greed Sever is slow to start up and punishable on block
Stun Dipper is punishable on block
Projectiles are unsafe as fuck without yrc
You can't be beating"good" players spamming those 3 moves
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>Ramlethal purposefully made shit because they couldn't find a way to make her good without promoting the "Set swords and run away until you get a hit" playstyle
Stopped playing because of that, it's so obvious they just didn't expect people to play her that way and then instead of giving her good normals that would let her actually play like a standard GG character they just said fuck it and neutered her
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>>384899202
you are seriously underestimating the power of wifi my friend.

and what the fuck IS safe with him? he has solid range with his normal but his shield pressure with everything is literal ass
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>>384899201
It's actually quite useful, especially if you use it in conjunction with his teleport dash.
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>>384887330
here is somethingnot many people know
once you press S+SH to parry, you can let go one button, just press S+SH then stop pressing SH you will keep the parry stance
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>>384899201
All the good players
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>>384899343
Have you tried using 6H to reset pressure or catch people mashing? Ky is also about getting reads and getting thows in. Learn to tick throw with 2p/5k, if you do it right the opponent can't throw a jab at you before you grab them. One of the missions is about tick throwing as Ky so check that out
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>>384899627
Wait really? I use 2p to tick throw and get grabbed all the time. How does the opponent beat it then? Can you frame trap out of 2p also?
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what does oki mean?
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>>384899627
I practiced the tick throw mission a lot yeah. I'm not sure if this is a matchup specific thing or maybe i just wasnt quick enough (playing a venom) but a lot of the time I attempted to do that, I got punished with a defensive grab on their part.
6h seems to be a good move, but there doesnt seem much to convert off of it. it leads into greed server i guess but if the opponent is too far away even that doesnt connect.
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>>384899835
Or mashed out with jab not grab I mean
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>>384899835
You need to be really fucking close, it's difficult to get right, if you know they are going to try and mash out just keep pressing buttons or throw a 5k in maybe just do whatever catches your opponent. I'm not exactly a great player so I'm not 100% sure on setting it up right

>>384899879
It's short of Okizeme and basically refers to what your doing as the opponent wakes up to keep pressure on
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>>384899879
Okizeme.
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>>384899879
Okizeme is the pressure that you can exert on an opponent while they are knocked down.
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>>384899960
>I got punished with a defensive grab on their part
They know what you are up to then, you need to mix it up to catch them out. I read Split Ciel is a great round opener vs Venom btw and I've tried it a few times and it can work
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enter the room for casual fun
REVELATOR 2 PC

ROOM NAME: vydia
PASS: tata
ID: jcm2
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>>384900187
What country are you in? Got 0 ping to you
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>>384900187
Doing God's work anon. I can set up a PS4 lobby in about half an hour if anyone is interested.
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>>384900747
I can join on PS4 if you don't mind euronoob
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Do all the Guilty Gear chicks have god tier feet like the ones posted so far
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>>384899137
another problem is that online on ps4 is dead and the discord is all pc users. so i cant even practice on real people unless theyre infinitely better than me and just stunlock me the whole game.
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>>384900968
I'm in NA, so the lag might be pretty bad. But we can try in about half an hour if you want.
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>>384900187
Make the lobby not have a connection restriction so people from all over the world can join
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>>384901026
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Now i remember why i hardly play anything but sf on steam. sucks
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>>384901909
The BB thread is down the hall buddy
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>>384901909
>PC fighters
Console is where the action is, 1v1 my Valkenhayn
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>>384901909
Is that really BBCF? I thought it would have a bunch of players after EVO and the new announcements and stuff. But if it's an old game it's understandable that you can't find anyone.
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>>384889246
You weren't going to buy the game anyway. Everyone that said this for dizzy and Baiken didn't get it.

I guess you never liked guilty gear to begin with.
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>>384902285
PC has always been trash for fighters except for on fightcade
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>>384901909
Try creating a room. Always works for me.
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>>384902285
But isn't CF the latest entry?
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>>384889746
Haven't you got eyes in your head?
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anyone wanna play some rev2 (ps4/east coast)
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>>384902285
It was added on steam on April 26th, so its just about 3 months old on steam
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>>384902558
It's the latest, but it's still over a year old on console and 3+ years on arcade.
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>>384902558
It is, which is why I was asking if it really was CF.
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>>384901909
weird
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>>384889746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ApW6NIjRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKAj6YGDWP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kWgpqIQgLs
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>>384902958
yeah i found that sometimes too but it showed Delay 1 which i guess means really really bad? Probably people from america, im playing in germany
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>>384903151
Basically yeah, but it only shows connectivity with the host, so unless it specifies the place like WC or EU lobby, then the players in it might be from different regions
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>>384877801
i am
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>>384902624
Sure, give me a couple minutes to try and get this Jam beginner shit down. I'm rusty as hell and just started learning her.
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>>384889746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O3MSiUKa3k

lesson 1
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>>384903540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AniggV8zXDk
Johnny is pretty gud.
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How many of you guys actually know how to play GG and aren't just beginners?
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>>384893498
I play Dizzy. Literally the only character I know how to play. Then again I only started playing a month ago.
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>>384904008
People who know how to play any fighting game past the beginner level are typically always very rare.
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>>384889746
One dawn
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>>384904008
what is beginner level ?
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Lobby for PS4 NA is up. ID is lvvt.
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>this game has a story mode
Well, shit. Spent 15 hours playing the other modes before noticing it.
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>>384904008
Been playing since Sign's console release but I'm terrible.
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>>384903540
>>384903785
I wish I could play Johnny for shit. I unironically had an easier time with his combos in +R, even with FRCs. j.D loops in the corner and stance dash treasure hunt kills me.
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>>384904008
I've played for years and I'm still garbage.
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>>384877801
I did, I've put ten hours in training and combo mode with Jack-O' so far.
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>>384906056
Closing up since no one is joining
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>>384877801
Somehow it's kind of hard to dash exactly how I want it to
How fix?
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>>384908509
Sorry to hear that. My excuse is that I'm a europoor
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Completed all of Baiken's advanced combos, and nearly done I-no's. Instant air dash Tatami is a damn nightmare.
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>>384883151
learn what back dash cancel is, theres a tutorial for it ingame on his combo tutorials.
once you learn it, learn how to apply forward/back dash cancels with mappa, dandy step and bite. 5k/6hs are your best neutral buttons, remember that 6hs cancels into dandy step. learn how to mixup with dandy step + under pressure as you can do a lot of different followups because the its late counterhit is scary as balls so people usually dont mash out of it. Check dustloop wiki -> slayer, it has a lot of good stuff.
And above all, enjoy playing best boy.
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>>384877801
Y-Yessir!!
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>>384900187
>can't find room
is it still up?
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>>384877801
My waifu.
Say something nice to her.
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>>384889746
Moon's Domination
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Maybe when it gets rid of retarded shit like tech buttons and slow down on RC.
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Yo, I Picked up this game during weeb sale, not knowing much about this game universe but I really like I-no

She any good ? I like the front dash alot. Reminds me of Morigan from dark stalker
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>>384910121
no, make one
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>>384910192
She has nice ribbons
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>>384909731
The hero I needed.
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>>384889798
Can't you use the mayflash ss adapter to use a saturn controller on PS4?
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>>384910428
made a generic room called "west coast."
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I bought this game only to play the fishing figurine mode, Im not into the fighting part, I wish they will let me pay with real money to unlock pose
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>>384877801
I just returned it yesterday. Not for me.
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>>384908750
Maybe someday internet will be strong enough for us to connect without 24 frames of delay.
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Is it worth modding my older model fightsticks or just buying a new one?

I have a Mahvel TE (I think it's TE1) and a 'Fightstick Pro 360 edition'. I really want the qanba $200 or the hrap $150 one..

Suggestions?
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>>384908663
What I mean is that it sometimes doesn't come out properly on my ps3 controller during matches.
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>>384910710
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Is Millia too much for a beginner? I have about 20 hours in the game and can't say i can play her well at all, i know her mixup and setup but have trouble in all of getting a knockdown from neutral, setting the oki and comboing from it.
Would it just be better to learn with another character?
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>>384912063
If she's who you want to play, stick with her. It takes time and lots of practice to get a good hold on neutral.
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>>384912063
anon, if you cound master a character in 20 hours what would be the point? Just pick one you like and invest 10-20 times more hours.
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>>384911158
The newer models have the same components as the older ones (sanwa or seimitsu parts) unless it was a cheap budget stick. Your TE is just as good quality as anything else on the market. If it's a PS3 stick you're good to go. Every PS4 fighter supports them. If it's a 360 stick buy a Brook converter for $30.

Still using my HRAP 3. Zero problems that aren't the result of my sloppy ass execution (can't do FD drill cancels consistently but Faust is one of the only characters I like playing.)

Post some sticks.
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>>384912729
>>384912912
i'll stick then, thanks anons
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>>384911158
The HRAP4 is really light compared to the TE1 i used to have, more comfortable on your legs. Stick in it sucks though so you'll wanna swap your TE stick into that if you get one
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>no love for Ky
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>>384913105
Thanks doc
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>>384913105
Thanks doc.
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>>384913105
Yeah, both are 360 ones and they work on PC already so I'm cool off a converter unless I go to a tourney.

Where are you getting your parts from? I just want a variety to choose from.
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I only have Sign. How do i earn enough money to unlock 3 locked characters. i need 600k total, and for arcade i get only about 10-15k. This is really bad. I don't want to watch story mode, it's boring and there is no fights in between cutcenes to keep my attention. Storymode in ggac+r is much better.
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>>384913416
Lightning Man of Fundamentals and Neutral Game is too much for /v/
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>>384913669
Just get Xrd Rev 2 instead
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>>384913416
they're all jealous that he has a waifu
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>>384913769
No money. I got Sing because it was cheap.
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Who are the named characters we've seen modeled and in story mode that aren't included yet?
Trying to peg who may be the next DLC or in a version update.
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>>384877801
Got it from base for less than 30bongs last week. Last time I played GG was probably Midnight Carnival. Evo made a good commercial.
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>>384913416
He is best husband and son-in-law.
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>>384877801

I'm a total scrub when it comes to fighting games.

Top tier stylization though. Capcom should learn a thing or two about ArcSys when it comes to 3D.

Also Jack-O a cute
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>>384914195
Evo got me to buy it too. Kazunoko vs Nage was hype as fuck.
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>>384877801
I tried anon I really did. I'm just not cut out for anime fighters...
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>>384913630
Focusattack.com has pretty much everything you'll need. Quickest shipping if you're in the US too. Artwork and plexi are from tek-innovations.com.
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Rev2 PS4 NA east coast Lobby ID: 8k6h

let's have a good time
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>>384878942
dragon install
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>Arcsys paid a visit to Riot Games
Incoming Overture sequel
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I do play, and main Elphelt. I used to main Bridget, though.
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>>384915414
on my way
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>>384915414
Can't play now, but add me on PSN. Name is Robo_Bri. I mostly play at night, like 10:30 or later.

Just curious, you anywhere in the Virginia/MD/DC area?
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>>384889746
Reminder that Blazblue's edgy snek's have nothing on the bird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh1onX6fBYQ
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>>384914868
>>
>ky player joins room
>talks mad shit
>leaves after the one and done
never change /v/
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>>384877801
But I suck at fightin' games.
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>>384915414
Oh no, you're good.
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>>384916045
>When the most honest character in the game nearly beats the most braindead
It was hype, but it's a shame it ended the way it did.
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>>384916045
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>>384915195
Thanks senpai
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>>384877801
Test
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>>384892437
I do this. I press 6, let it default back to 5, and then do a forward quarter circle.
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>>384877801
senpaizenku why are you so good at blocking wow jesus fuck man you're good
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>>384889746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVe78_xv1Lg
X2 assassin's theme imo
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>300 hours combine with SIGN and REV 2
>Still constantly lose online

Why can't I git gud. I don't into defense...
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>>384916827
Haven't played GG yet, but for the SRK motion most fighters will accept right, down, right from my experience.
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>>384917047
You fucking up your blockstrings?
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>>384877801
But I'm at work, Sol. They'll fire me.
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>>384917179
GG does too. I honestly haven't seen a game that adheres to 100% perfect DP motions in my life.
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>>384917448
>not catching your boss in a 12 string combo into super and getting promoted
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>>384916663
but nage won didn't he?
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How do you consistently pull of Kum's 6234K motion? I'm having trouble with the kick loops
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>>384877801
Decided to take the plunge and get a fightstick just for Rev 2. Any good guides out there for getting started on one?
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When is he coming back?
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>>384917846
I think Gooteks has a good guide. But there's no shortcut. Just find a comfortable grip and keep at it.
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>>384917846
several, google is your friend
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>>384917643
623k654
>>384917846
It's not going to make you magically good at the game, what controller you use is down to your preference
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>irl NEET friends already play FFXIV 12 hours a day
>They recently picked up this game to play in their "down time"

Sorry no. I'd rather not associate with degeneracy more than I already have to.
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As a Leo main EVO was exactly what this game needed
>Before EVO
>lol, people play Leo? Enjoying that low tier unga? Fucking pathetic! If you're going to pick someone braindead at least pick Raven so you can win.
>After EVO
>FUCKING LEO IS OP NERF NOW

lobbies on PC are still barren though
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>>384917929
Perhaps later after Robo Ky and Ariels are released.
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>>384917286
Yes
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>>384918209
>lobbies on PC are still barren though
What did he mean by this? I play nearly every day by joining random lobbies as the discords are full of circlejerking retards
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>>384918209
>lobbies on PC are still barren though
Where do you live? I have no problem finding games on east coast
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>>384918353
>go into discord
>ask for advice
>get advice

dunno what you're talking about bub
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>turns off
>completes most combo trails
>does play online.
Every time I play guilty gear.
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>>384913105
>Every PS4 fighter supports them
Mahvel 3&4 and I think SFV, so Capcom in general don't support my directinput ps3 stick
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>>384918573
>tuns on
>does play online
I can't even green text. I guess I should stick to sfv.
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I tried and I'm sure it's a good game but I just don't like the feel of it.
I hate Street Fighter V but so far there hasn't really been a fighting game that has the street fighter feel so I'm left sticking to Street Fighter.
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>>384918557
Some of the character specific ones are decent I'll give you that
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>>384891065
>teach you bad habits like Leo
What bad habits will you pick up if you play Leo? I wanted to learn him.
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>>384884298
Theyd said in the revelator update that theyll remove it iirc, but ended up not doing it

It believe it was something along that one non designer guy that has some kind of power in the games development insisted on ut and was his idea, so to not piss him off they cant remove it
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>>384882972
ANIKI
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>>384918353
>>384918520
Montana; so maybe that's the problem... may have to try those discords or browsing the generals I guess.
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>>384918353
I'm an autistic manchild that doesn't like talking to people either and I find lobbies just fine without discord. I use the discords for resources and guides though.
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>>384917573
tekken kind of requires perfect DP motions to do EWGF's, but for those the neutral is required, making the motion 6523, not to mention that you need to hit 3 and the attack button on the same frame
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>>384918285
Only thing I can suggest is go into training and set the dummy to constantly attack at highest AI setting, and go through each character until you feel comfortable blocking them all. Practicing with a friend would be better though.
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Any PC lobbies up?
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>>384888202
Jesus, could put someone's eye out with those.
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>>384915414
nice games man, even though you pretty much crushed me overall, make another /v/ lobby sometime and I'll probably find you again
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>Guilty Gear had 8 different characters for the top 8

Interesting, so this is what balance in a fighting game should aim to be?
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>>384904008
Me. Started with #Reload.

>>384913416
Sorry but he's too boring.

>>384916663
Nah, May is the most honest. Faust is OK, except for the mega-meteor.

>>384917643
623[K]4, release K.
It's really awkward, I know.

>>384917929
He can come as soon as he wants as long as Bridget is released before.
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>>384918043
>It's not going to make you magically good at the game, what controller you use is down to your preference
Yeah, I get that, it's just I was using keyboard beforehand and didn't like the way it felt, and I don't really like the feel of the PS4 pad either.
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>>384916957
you just have to lose enough times to know what every character does.

>>384920441
i usually lurk and join lobbies whenever people make, but i don't mind making them from time to time. gg's friend
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>>384892174
>>384893556
I really hope nothing bad happens to Aria in the next Guilty Gear. I just want Sol to be happy. What they revealed in Raven's arcade mode makes me worry
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>>384920610
Maybe look into building yourself a hitbox instead if you are used to keyboard
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>>384920468
There are definitely some better and worse characters in GG, but for the most part there aren't any absolute shit characters that are unusable. Look at Leo. Everyone was calling him low tier garbage last year and now that Tomo started wiping the floor with everyone Leo is suddenly OP and needs damage nerfs.
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>>384889746
still in the dark
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>>384920468
it was pretty cool to see that there were 4 really strong characters and 4 characters that arent considered as strong in the same top 8, and that one of the weaker ones ended up in 2nd
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>>384921526
Shit, I don't remember who all was in top 8. Chipp, Leo, Johnny, Jam, Raven, Jack-O, Faust, and who else?
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>>384922150
last one was 310's Venom
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>>384922240
Oh yeah, can't believe I forgot him.
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>>384877801
I can't decide on who to main. I like Leo because he plays like Saki Tsuzura but I feel like that isn't a good enough reason.
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>>384919615
west coast lobby up
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>>384922531
You don't need any more of a reason. I play Jam because she's cute and her legs turn me on.
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>>384920643
>Implying Sol would let anything happen to his waifu after all the shit he went through to get her back.
>Implying Aria would let anything happen to herself after finally being able to fuck Sol again.
Nigga, she ain't goin' anywhere.
I'd be more worried about Dizzy again. And Sin, he needs to learn maths already.
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ANSWER DESU
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>>384922531
what other reason do you need other than liking the character
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>>384922885
Answer is precious
i'd play him just cause he's so cute but i dont like his scroll stuff very much
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>>384922885
Literal waste of a slot. No one is fucking playing him and he's total shit.
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>>384923126
>Learned from Chipp how to be a badass.
I like this boyo.
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>>384901909
Just hook up with people from threads or discords. There's quite a few people perfectly up for games, you just have to be social about it.

>>384920468
Both GG and BB had really diverse showings at EVO this year. I'm pretty sure SFV had like 6 or 7 uniques too. Tekken didn't because Tekken has dudes that really like playing Jack despite him being considered one of the weaker characters.
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Will Bedman's imouto replace him?
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>>384922885
>We could have got Testament, Zappa, ABA, Robo-Ky or Bridget
>Get this literal who instead
>Nobody even uses him
What was Icchan thinking? I bet Mori did this.
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>>384922637
>>384923018
Okay then. Big bad Leo it is.
I wanted to try Jack-O too, but it looks like she needs too much stuff on the field to set up with. She reminds me of Sharlachrot. May go with May for a secondary.
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This new combo feature is pretty damn useful.
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>>384923213
>>384924249
Fuck you I play him and he's fun
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>>384913416

I like Ky, but I purposely don't play him because I have a rivalry with my brother. (I always pick Sol against him) I feel like I'm cheating if I play him to learn him. He does the same with Sol.
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I would like to get this on Steam. How fucked am I if I'm from South America?
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>>384917929

Robo-Ky is next, but I'm hoping he's after him. I don't even care if he's DLC instead of being part of an upgrade at this point.
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>trying to do the hit confirm in air mission for three hours
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>>384924250
You can generally get Jack-O's stuff set up quickly. Two houses set after a knockdown, or one house and aegis field for example. And then you can buy time with 2H into 4D or her 236H super. She can be a lot to play, and frustrating as hell to play against.
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Would anyone be interested in adding me on Steam? Preferably a fellow noob, but I don't mind if you are experienced in GG. Just want some lads to play with, and dick around with, if no one minds.
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>>384924249
>didn't know who answer was
fuck youuuuu he's great
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>>384924250
>>384925376
remember that if you get hit once, all your minions will die and the spawn timers wil be reset.
being able to play a bit of neutral as jacko is important.
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>try out M.O.M. mode
>down the opponent
>they stand back up
>down them again
>they get up again
>time runs out while my health is higher than theirs
>I lose
I fail to grasp the concept of this shit
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>>384923213
>>384924249
>tfw next year someone is going to hit top 8 with Answer and we're going to start seeing the call for nerfs
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>>384925439
What's your ID?
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>>384926451
Without changes Answer will literally never be good.
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>>384925439

Whereabouts are you? Post your ID if you're in NA.
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>>384926496
My steam is:
DamyBamy | ONLY DREAMS NOW
Just so everyone knows, I'm not looking to be playing all the time, just a couple matches every once in a while.
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>>384877801
Which character do you guys recommend? Sol or Johnny?
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>>384926594
I'm in North America, steam is right here: >>384926594
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>>384924210
I could maybe see that happening but it really would be such a shame. Midorikawa does a great job voicing Bedman.
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>>384926880
Raven
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>>384926880
For a beginner? Sol. If you really like Johnny though I'd suggest picking up the fundamentals with someone else and then picking him up.
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>>384926880
I'd say Johnny, but only because there's a gorillion Sol players online.
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Matchup with Raven alone makes me want to never touch the game again.
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>>384913416
He's a boring boyscout man of the cloth who fucked a 6 year old and had mulatto monster babies and also his moveset is bland.
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>>384927382
True suffering is playing against an Axl as Jack-O.
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>>384924249
I think they have a policy of always including at least one newcomer so Answer ended up filling that spot. I too would rather see them have more returning characters instead, but what can you do.
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>>384926880
Sol, Ky, Elphelt, Raven, Sin and Jack-O are the best characters for beginners. Good buttons + simple gameplan.
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are there any Zato mains that can give me a few basic combos with Eddie? I managed to do most of his combo trials, but I'm wondering what gets used the most in actual matches
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>>384926880
Start with Sol and then start to dabble with Johnny once you've learned how the game works. Johnny is not a beginner friendly character
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>>384925376
>>384926197
Thanks again guys.
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>>384927946
no problem bro
enjoy best girl
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>>384927871
You could try watching Ogawa and see what he uses. Not a Zato player myself, he's 2hard4me. The character discord may have some combos too.
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>Hear about Dizzy's bad defensive options and xbox huge move list
>Put the effort in
>Go to small local meetup and blindside people with character unfamiliarity
>End up as "the only good Dizzy they've ever seen"

Good feels. luv u Dizzy
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>>384889746
Not sure if it's in Xrd at all because no Kliff, but, Pride and Glory.
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I kinda like playing as Sin. How do I get better as him?
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>>384928902
depends on what youre having trouble with
theres a lot of info for sin on the dustloop wiki, check it out.
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>>384928902
Get a hit
???
50% damage combo
Eat some food
Repeat
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>>384928776
>tfw live in a rural area and there's no local scene outside of a two hour drive
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>>384885313
Play whoever you want, but try to avoid the more intense characters while you're still a beginner.
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>>384930225
tfw live in a small city of a couple hundred thousand and the entire local fgc is comprised of 8 asian kids and three mexicans
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>>384930380
Where do Baiken and Answer fall here?
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>>384930630
Baiken in difficult and Answer in intense
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>>384888202
hhhhnnnnggg
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>>384930630
Answer falls into a trash can
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>>384930579
I live in a college town and the only scene that exists is Melee
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>>384930380
Fuck, I wanted to start with either Venom or Millia. I will probably try arcade or story first.
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>>384930380
>Jack-O' is basic
Huh, I figured she'd be considered difficult with her minion management
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Does anyone have some decent GG wallpapers?
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>>384880159

You don't. You lose so fast your head spins and then when you ask, you get told to 'git gud' and realize you're wasting your time asking.

Then you either watch streams and live the dream of not being beat while watching others lose, or throw your head at the wall until you quit or break your way through.

GG is however, totally fun to watch.
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sure, once I move out of this dump, buy rev 2 DLC and get good internet. I miss my main man Faust
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>>384926880
Play whoever you want man. I started with Zato. I mean you'll naturally be more motivated to grind and do training mode on the character you like so you might as well start there.
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>>384931157
You can get far with good neutral and spacing awareness. Her inputs are super easy, fast meter gain, corner pressure with minions is insanely good, combos are basic and simple. That's not to say that there aren't more complex things she can do (using minions for OTG combos).
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>>384927871
Zato combos are actually really easy. Air combo is universally just K, HS, D or even just HS, D. Your main ground combos are counterhit 2S into 22HS (far drill) and wall dust combos off of your buzzsaw mixups.

The "hard" thing you'll have to grind is Eddie control in neutral, pressure, and setups. Matchups take some grinding too. Chipp and Millia are obnoxious, Answer can kill Eddie easier than almost anyone else, Pot is supposed to be heavily in your favor but you have to really change how you play and getting knocked down can be the end for you. Good luck man.
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>>384928902
Whenever you confirm a hit with a ground Beak Driver, RRC that shit into a dashing 6H and go from there.
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>>384888537

>GG
>Has full tutorial and combo autism tutorials if you get past fundimentals
>If you have the proper console, decent playerbase.

>Tekken
>Latest iteration (maybe all?) has no tutorial
>Impossible to have fun, even with 'basic' characters you need 10 years martial arts training
>Main attraction to those trying to ease into the game will be Tekken Bowl mode.


Tekken's the top rung on the ladder of accessibility. Unless you've no-lifed it like those DOTA-types do to their single-unit RTS's, you're not getting anywhere.
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>>384931140
Play their combo trials to see how they both work and whether or not you enjoy it enough to put in the work to learn them.
>>
gimme ky tips
>>
Fighting games are shit and you're a faggot if you play them.
Fact.
>>
>start trying to learn to be good
>start with the combo mode
>it's fucking hard to remember everything
what do
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>>384933052
Just hit 2H, fS, jH and stun edge randomly and once you get a hit you just vapor loop them in the corner and then set up a grinder and win because you are playing one of the most dishonest character in the game.

Pretty much any hit goes into grinder.
Also 6H is like +11 so abuse that like a gorilla
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>>384933285
keep playing, eventually the muscle memory will kick in during matches and you'll start hitting your shit.
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>>384933052
YRC stun edge
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Yea but wheres all the accent core plus R lobbies?
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>>384933052
fS into 2S or 236S
End ground combos with 2D
Use 6H for oki
RTL can be used on wakeup to punish meaties
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>>384930380
>tfw I started with Dizzy.
So that's why I got my ass handed to me for a weeks.
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>>384932029
thanks, anon. it's been a frustrating but satisfying ride so far
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>>384933437
>AC+R
>Lobbies
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>>384933052
press buttons (all of them are safe) until you win. panic when you're forced into the corner and have to start taking risks
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Where the fuck are Hori RAP4 in stock at? :(
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>>384934008
In the bin where it belongs
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>>384880159
>How are you even supposed to get decent when everyone you can play against are way above your level?
try tutorial. No joke, Xrd has probably the best and most functional tutorial I have ever seen in a fighting game
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>>384934113
okay, and whats a better fightstick anon?
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So i own revelator and want to upgrade to Rev 2, but i heard in this case i'll still be missing some content which is otherwise included if you buy rev 2 from scratch. What kinda shitty deal is that and why is this allowed?
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I have. It's fun so far.

I'm really bad and all I do is do the combo tutorials for each character, but at least everyone is fun.

Haehyun is hard. But really fun.
Glad I can whore myself out to another shoto in a fighting game.
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>>384934209
I upgraded and I'm pretty sure there wasn't anything missing.
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>>384934156
Anything with Sanwa parts
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>>384934361
Rev 2 doesn't come with kum and the other DLC character
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>>384880159
You keep playing and learn where you fuck up.

It's not that hard, in fact you won't ever get better if you just play people at your level. You will just learn a bunch of fake shit that doesn't actually work except against shitters.
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>>384881285
How does she not feel shame in this outfit?
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>>384934491
Weren't they free at release?
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>>384881509
I'm beggining to believe that this handsome bloodsucker is the reason why there's so many chicks playing Guilty Gear. No matter what they main, they love Slayer the most.
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>>384891651
I'm pretty disgusted that Under night in beirth and RWBY are there, I hate Persona alot,too so this Crossover litterally has nothing in it for me. WHy did they do this? How could they do this? Anybody whose a fan of RWBY and Persona need to kill themselves. I don't like UniB either but at least those poor sods stick to their own hole in the wall and don't bother nobody
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>>384934641
All the DLC characters were free in the US, not in EU
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>>384934825
Your bitch tears are delicious. Stay mad.
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>>384934735
Slayer does have that dad bod.
I wonder if he has a hairy chest
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>>384934825
>The game comes out and every RWBY fan buys it.
>Arksys decides to make a solo RWBY game.
You know this will happen.
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>>384930380
Looks like I'm gonna take the Dizzy challenge.

How tough was Bridget back in the older games?
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>tfw to inteligent to beat people online
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>>384934825
Too bad what's his face is a fan, which is why this happened in the first place
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>>384902395
source of this image?
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>>384882175
different dev teams for different audience. BB is aimed at teens, thus more generic and cutesy designs, as well as more "artsy" music, while GG is aimed at young adults, thus it's design and misic are balls to the wall if not outright batshit sometimes
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>>384934852
Ah, that explains it. Sorry Euros, you guys always get screwed.
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Which game did Guilty Gear start to have a proper story mode? I wanna know what to search on youtube, since the first game seems to just be a barebones arcade mode with quips between matches.
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How to play Sol's neutral properly? All I know is 5k and sometimes use 5s or dp
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>>384877801
Bought it yesterday.
Realised that baiken is dlc so going to buy the dlc today.
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>>384935552
Watch Sol players on YouTube
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>>384935950
why didn't you just get Rev 2? comes with everything
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>>384935552
5S to poke, 2S for low, and 5K for anti air. Remember that 5K is jump cancellable, which lets you hit confirm off anti air. 6P is strong vs any aerial or overhead attack as it is upper body invincible and will wall bounce you opponent.
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>>384889246
I wish they would add Anji Mito, even if as DLC characted you need to pay extra for
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