Have mods fixed it yet?

>>384846556
There's no fucking mods, mate

Not even mods can fix a Bethesda game.

Nope. Call back in 4 years.

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>>384846556
F4 is so shit that mods cant even save it.

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If this was Skyrim I would say 'Yes'.
But this is Fallout 4, everything wrong with it runs too deep to be 'fixed' with mods.

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>>384846556
No. No one makes mods because the game is irredeemable. 5/10.

By the way, I've always had a crush on you. Hope you don't feel anxious by my assertive manner, but I would really wanna go on a date with you.

>>384846556
I thought fallout 4 was fun

>>384846556
nobody makes mods cause the game is shit, and furthermore, even if they wanted to they couldn't do anything cool because f4se is absolute garbage since the idiots who make it cannot code in 64bit to save their lives.

>>384846764
Woah m8, I don't even know your name!
>>384846965
The exploration is pretty good and so is the little bits and pieces of story like letter and documents, but everything else is horseshit.

>>384846764
>redhead
>loli

LONDON
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>>384846685
I don't know why you would *need* mods to fix it, the game is pretty gud as it is

>>384846556
The game is far from fixable

>>384848131
You look familiar. Do I know you?

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>>384848427
stop asking so many questions

>>384846556
Everyone ITT is just screaming about Fo4 being bad without explaining why.


Fo4 is bad because of the voiced protagonist and dialogue wheel.
They limited how much the player could say, and because of that the writing suffered, and when the writing suffers the story suffers too.

Everything else about the game is either alright or fantastic.

HATE NEWSPAPERS

>>384849865
>Everyone ITT is just screaming about Fo4 being bad without explaining why.
Literally every part of Fallout 4 is a failure.

>>384849865
Don't forget the perk poster, that means modders can't add more perks to the game.

Don't forget the fact that workstations are just about everywhere, and the lone survivor magically knows how to make just about god damn everything, from baseball grenades to stimpacks, without the need for an instruction book/perk/blueprint like the previous games so there would be some reason to play the game.

Don't forget the god awfully small map that a third of it is empty ocean, even when there's a giant sea beast you encounter during a quest or a walk along the beach.

Don't forget the DLCs that were just glorified steam workshop mods (Conveyor belts, pipes for balls to fall down, cages that 'trap' things when you bait them)

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>>384849865
what is """fantastic""" about that game m8?

>>384850004
Fuck off obsidrone

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>>384849865
>anything about Fallout 4 being fantastic

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Fallout 4 is perfect without mods

>>384850385
Now say that without the gun

>>384850319
Power armor

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>>384850461
w-what gun? Just buy FO4 VR please?

>>384850319
>>384850373
Obsidrones go back to your NV thread

We're here to discuss the faults of Fo4, not cry

>>384850740
Go back to your shitty open world crafting shooter with no skills and SPECIALs that don't mean shit because you can max them out in no time

Fallout 4 is at least an improvement over fallout 3.
Maybe 5 set in New York will be worth the 10 year wait

Fuck it, thread over, Obsidrones are too retarded to even read >>384850953

>>384850369
I don't even claim to not have enjoyed fallout 3
Fallout 4 was legit the worst piece of shit I've ever played

>>384851230
>Fallout 4 is at least an improvement over fallout 3.
It really fucking is not
It's about a 1000 mile dash backwards

>>384851282
>boo hoo muh obsidian
I didn't even say anything about NV, I just feel like I've played it enough to say that it's about as deep as a puddle

Can you all just fuck off and stop sucking obsidian's cock? OP wants to talk about fallout 4, so lets talk. If you don't want to, you are free to leave the thread and or hide it. I'm so sick of you faggot fuckers trying to convert everybody.

>>384846556
You can't fix this game

>>384851721
Really loving this performance mate

>>384851721
OP here, Nobody is talking about Obsidian besides you.

>>384846556
Shit like mechanics, weapon variety, more shit to loot, kill and build has been fixed. But everything about the bad and restrictive dialogue options, limiting choices without consequences and lack of control over a faction you're tasked with rebuilding you can't fix. Which is what ruined the game.

>>384846556
um what
the game is a masterpiece. No one cares about your sesert walking sim
Your the minority in the fallout universee fo4 is loved by true gamers and fans

>>384852210
What is a sesert?

>>384849865
The ONLY things that Fallout 4 did right were gunplay mechanics and power armor. Even then, the fusion cores weren't very good for power armor because you end up swimming in them very easily, so they might as well not exist, which would've made more sense with the lore in the first place. But...
>Fallout 4
>lore

>>384846556
Maybe paid mods will be the ones to fix it

>>384851547
What this anon said
You know what made Fallout 3 at least somewhat fun to play? The fact that you could enter a Vault or some building, overcome the traps and enemies, and you got rewarded with a nice a unique weapon or armor; even if it was a fucking useless wig or a gun you dont use at least you knew something was waiting at the end for your effort

This was removed from 4 with the inclusion of legendary stuff

Thing is, they did a good job with some of them like Kremv tooth that was just a machete but with a custom skin, an interesting backstory and an actually unique modifier; yet most of the other stuff is rather forgettable and uninteresting

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>>384850740
b-but I just asked what is fantastic about FO4 senpai

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Real funny. Let me check if you bought that game.

Should I get an oculus rift for skyrim and fallout VR and then download porn mods?

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>>384853207
No Todd don't look!

>>384846556
Silent protag and start me up are basically manditory

>>384852959
Trainwiz and some other fag made unique uniques which graphically overhaulled all unique weapons and changed up their effects to make them different from normal legendaries.

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>>384853361
DELET

just play with the Horizon or Frost overhaul mod lmao

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>>384853516
Yeah, but once again it had to be fixed with mods

I was just pointing out how bethesda clearly did a half-assed job when they tried to implement the legendary weapon system

They had some great uniques in the game like that handheld cannon or the cryo-gun that might be shit but at least they were interesting. Now most guns are just named legendaries with one of the legendary effects.

I wish the legendary effect had some thought put into it instead of just rng. Why not made it so modifiers are more common at certain levels or they show up in better weapons/armor? Instead of you being able to find the most broken weapon in the game just after leaving Sanctuary or spending the whole game finding nothing better than a 10mm gun or leather armor

What percentage of quests are narrative vs radiant ai?

>>384849865
This.

However, while there are some nice mods that allow you to roll with Dogmeat and another companion, turns your weird Pipboy omni-light into an actual flashlight, adds tons of weather effects, and greatly diversify the settlers your settlements attract, if you didn't like vanilla FO4, there really isn't much out there that revolutionizes it.

The season pass did a great job of fixing it, the PS4 version is even on sale right now

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>>384850740
>>384851282
>>384851721
I think I know who's behind these posts...

>>384857227
>any bethesda game on console

>>384846556
>Fixed
You can polish a turd all you want, anon. It's still just a polished fucking turd.

The story is utterly and irredeemably broken. It's worse than F3. The perk system is broken, levelling system makes any sort of tactical choices for perks meaningless, stats have no meaning any longer, all the weapons are exactly the same except for a few numbers, and all the armors except for the power armors are the same.

Short of a total conversion mod, F4 is DOA. I'll keep playing New Vegas.

>Still no first person mod

Can someone explain this Todd Howard meme to me?

>>384857794
He's the new peter molynuex

>>384857794
Betrayed by the company he works for, forced to lie about the thing he loves most, Todd Howard is a punished man.
Toddposting reflects the inner agony of his soul.

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>>384846556
>fixed

it can never be fixed.

>>384858218
Big/Small guns being changed to just Guns in NV was one of my gripes about that game

>>384858218
Wow, van buren was going to be casual shit

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>>384849865
this, the gameplay is great, I've played 30 hrs of modded Fallout 4 and it has been fantastic. fuck new/v/ and their contrarian bullshit, they all get their opinions from shitty youtubers, god forbid they actually play a game than watch somebody play videogames.

Fallout 4 is an ok game, it's a terrible RPG and arguably not even a Fallout game, but if it was called "Dude survives the nuclear holocaust and shoots stuff" and get stripped of the Fallout universe it'd probably get off easier.

The modding community is sadly only interested in adding boobs and nude mods. What few mods are around that do anything different only fix the most nagging and superficial problems with the game. As an RPG the problems with Fallout 4 cannot be fixed by modding without rebuilding half the games systems from scratch.

I recently did a modded playthrough, gritting my teeth through some of the more retarded bits. The DLC adds little of interest, though Far Harbor as a thing was a passable addition to the base game. Nuka World breaks down under the weight of how completely fucking irredeemably retarded the game, the concept and its systems is and has soured it enough for me to not touch it again unless better men than I find a way to rewrite most of the games systems and flow from the bottom up.

As for the oft cited dialogue system and voiced protagonist: This is one of the core problems with the game that destroys any replayability and real choice, and can probably never be fixed by mods.

Which is a shame, because somewhere deep down there is a passable game, that got shit up by Bethesda being completely incapable of understanding what made Fallout good.

>>384858334
yeah, shame nv never had that.
would have been fun.

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>>384857794
I'll be watching you sleep, Anon.

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this is the problem

this can never be fixed

fuck you todd

>>384858695
Silent protagonist and actual dialogue is a thing, however there isn't a way to fix the damage it and the dialogue wheel did to the game.

>>384852959
Fallout 3 had a working dialogue system, some places of actual interest and charm to discover like paradise falls and big town, was a better rpg, more interesting quests etc.
Fallout 4 had none of this shit.
It's an abortion of game design.

Fallout 4 is literally a shittier version of Rage, which funny enough was published by Bethesda. Hmmmmmm....

>>384858338
I'll bite:
>Remove Big Guns, Energy Weapons and Small Guns
Combined into Firearms
>Remove Traps
I'll grant you this one.
>Explosives wasn't a thing yet.
>Remove Doctor and First Aid
Combined into Medic. Medicine wasn't a thing yet.
>Remove Lockpick
Changed to Security, probably included hacking and other shit.
>Remove Repaid
Changed to Mechanic, probably included shit to do with the robots that chase you in the game.
>Survival wasn't a thing yet.
>Remove Gambling.
Granting you this one.
>Remove Speech
Divided into Persuasion and Deception

Now would you kindly explain to me what the point with your completely inane post which didn't even bother to try to understand the image you were commenting on was?

Every RPG should have a Seduction skill

>>384859068
I suppose muting them is easy enough, just cut the voicefiles and animation, I've just never cared enough to look for the mods because, as you said, it doesn't fix the underlying problem.

Not catching what you mean by "actual dialogue", though. If you mean the mods that type out the words that will be said and not just giving you a keyword, I consider that essential and I have no idea why Bethesda didn't just steal that mod and patch it into the base game by now. I mean, they've proven they aren't above stealing from modders before.

>>384859414
>that type out the words that will be said
That's not how it works but yes

>>384859518
Sorry, the "Full Dialogue" mods, basically. That has the text typed up. Suffice to say I'm not a modder.

>>384846556

Beth should just post source code and let fanbase fix their game(s). whats the point doing non open source games anymore in 2017, are they trying to hide all the stolen code?

Mods have never fixed a single game, why would this one be any different?

Is fallout new vegas as good as everyone claims?

I don't get all the hate tbqh
I mean main story was so shit it made me3's storyline look like a masterpiece
but overall, it was a fun experience

>>384860909
It's an okay rpg, it just happens to be that most rpgs are really bad. If you've played stuff like divinity or the quests of runescape you can really tell that the people who laud it as a great rpg just haven't played that many good ones.
Gameplay is basically equal to fo3.

>>384860909
It's clunky and rough around the edges, but it's fun to play a game that actually has a fuckton of content and endings that you can't experience all in one go.

>>384861075
I've played FO3 and 4, and have been needing something new.

Basically picking between Divinity: Original Sin, Battlefield 1, Fallout New Vegas, or waiting for something else to get hyped by. Any recommendations?

they made it fun, but they can't fix the campaign without re-doing the whole thing from scratch which would take years and still not be good.
You know you fucked up when all your players are asking each other which faction is the least shit to side with for the grand finale because they're all terrible.

>>384849865
Fo4 is bad for a LOT of reasons

Limited as fuck dialogue (as a result of wheel and voices like you mention)
No roleplaying
No Skills
Perks Gutted
Weapon variety is fucking disgustingly small
LOTS of essential NPCs
Skinner box feedback gameplay loop (Get quest, go shoot shit, get reward)
Most quests in the entire game boil down to "shoot things in this location and come back"
Theme park world design (Never away from SOMETHING TO DO YAY, even though it has no depth)
The only fucking positive things in Fo4 are;

Crafting menus being well organized
Power Armor in general
Shooting mechanics improved

>>384858668
>30 hrs
bait harder normie

>>384852959
>and you got rewarded with a nice a unique weapon or armor; even if it was a fucking useless wig or a gun you dont use at least you knew something was waiting at the end for your effort

>it was better because all these things GIB ME REWARD
You and people like you are the fucking reason these games are getting worse.
Fucking KYS

>>384852574
>The ONLY things that Fallout 4 did right were gunplay mechanics
doing the thing that you spend the most of the game doing right is pretty important. /v/ is always sucking new vegas cock, but for all the praise it gets actually playing it feels like shit. every time I try to replay the game I get to the part with the stupid ghouls and their space ship and quit because fighting your way through the stupid building is so awful.

>>384849865
Choke on this (you)
Retards like you are responsible for all these garbage games.

>>384850740
There is nothing to discuss. It's a garbage game.
New vegas isn't much better. It's shit in its own way.

>>384851230
In graphics and shooting which I can both get even better from other games.

>>384862940
Lol. /v/ shits on new vegas and obsidiots all the time. I wish they would go bankrupt and a better company would take their place. They have no competition in the tog genre and we get shut products because of it HOWEVER fallout 4 us just an abortion. As shitty as new vegas is it is hard to hate it as much as fallout 4.

>>384846556
You can't fix something with mods when there is nothing remotely redeemable about the game at all. There's only so much you can polish a disgusting pile of crusty old shit.

Mods work with New Vegas because that game is a slightly muddy diamond, you just need the mods to clean it and polish this diamond.

>>384864968
most of the stuff fallout 4 gets shit on 4 is totally stupid though. no bethesda game has ever had good dialogue. fallout in general has never had dialogue rise above the level of old movie parodies.

The whole point of Fallout 4 is that Bestheda can be lazy and ship the game half baked then let the mod fags do the rest of the work.

>>384860909
Yeah it's a great game

>>384864968
>as new vegas is it is hard to hate it as much as fallout 4.
Yeah because New Vegas is a 10000000x better game than fallout 4

>>384846556
No, the worse thing is that thousands of mods out there for this crap are just more crafting shit

>>384846556
There's only weapon porn mods, anyone who says mods can fix this travesty is kidding themselves, there's nowhere near the amount of mods Skyrim has, the game is a lost cause.

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>>384849865
>Everyone ITT is just screaming about Fo4 being bad without explaining why

Because it's been explained to newfaggots like you probably thousands of times.

>>384867847

The guy who made Dust for New Vegas is apparently making a version for Fo4.

Would save the game desu

>>384849865
>Everything else about the game is either alright or fantastic.
Not at all. I have only put 90 hours into the game and I can't even muster enough care to finish the fucking thing and I say that as someone who has loved and has thousands of combined hours in F1, 2,3, NV and Tactics.
>lack of gun and mod variety
>settlements are a waste of time and resources, the more you take on the less time you'll spend playing the actual other portions of the game
>perk and leveling system is fucked, thanks Skyrim
>lore rape left and right, especially BoS
>entirely nonsensical portions of the plot
>large swathes of the map are just wasted, and many feel copy/paste
>no redeemable faction

>>384867954
Nah
The problem with the game isn't just the gameplay
It's the characters, the character models, the quests, the world, the dialogue system, the missing rpg elements, and so on
This game isn't fixable

>>384849865
Stop ruining out memes shit lord.

>>384849865
It's bad for a lot more than that anon

Limited dialogue because of the main quest, which casts you as a specific. You can literally only be kind of an asshole or a saint version of that character. That also means no roleplaying. IN A FUCKING RPG.
Perks are fucking dumb, no strategy in choosing which things to focus in. I've also always liked Skills and they gutted that too. Extremely limited quest variety.

It's an extremely mediocre open world shooter at best, and a fucking pathetic Fallout game at worst.

>>384859056
god I put almost 80 hours into this game and I didn't see anything that awful

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>>384850740
>only Obsidian and Bethesda Fallouts exist
>only New Vegas fans could possibly think that many aspects of Bethesda Fallouts are poorly though tout
>only New Vegas and Bethesda rpgs exist so if one thinks that Bethesda's rpg mechanics, world building, characterization or writing is of poor quality they must be Obsidian fanboys
>Fallout series does not come from a lineage of games going back over 20 years
>Fallout should not be compared to it's own lineage when judging the quality of any particular installment
>nobody could possibly have a long library of rpgs they could have played throughout the generations to find Fallout 4 lacking
So basically if you say anything negative about Fallout 4 you must me an "Obsidrone"

>>384850237
It's an eternal shame that there's nothing of interest on the ocean floor.

is it possible to mod a pirated copy
fuck you todd

>>384867936
wtf I hate fallout 4 now

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Having better 'gunplay' doesn't count for much when most of the guns aren't worth shit for design or how differently they handle due to weapon mods trying to cover all of the bases instead of each category having a more diverse base lineup. That just lead to all the guns curving right back around to becoming boring.

>>384846556
Mods can't fix the underlying issues with it.

>>384870659
>made a gun to handle like a machine gun
>bulky and heavy to be used in power armor
>literally called "machine gun" in game files
>"hey what should we call this mega-beast gun?"
>"hmm I know. we'll call it an assault rifle. and make it semi auto by default. you have to spend time and use precious materials to alter the workings of the gun to make it do what its originally designed to do"

MY
FUCKING
AUTISM
IS
RAGING

>>384870659
>>384870779

i would have liked it alot more if it wasn't the default assualt rifle everyone and their sister spawned with. such a lack if imagination.

>>384870659
>still no rifleman fix for energy weapons

I want lasers to not feel like an airsoft gun.

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>>384870902
the devs planned to include the chinese assault rifle from FO3 in the game. that would've been awesome. why wasn't that included? they even made a model for it

>>384860909
It is amazing but it still suffers from a fuck ton of bugs (most of which can be fixed with mods and console commands). It feels like an actual RPG, the weapon variety and weapon mod system is insanely fleshed out. Combat is fun. SPECIAL/perk specialization feels like it matters well up to end game. The factions are fairly fleshed out, your choices feel like they have impact and there are tons of side quests. The DLC is well worth playing and it has a great modding community and tons of mods that can keep the game fresh well after you've done everything in the vanilla game.
It suffered from only having a 13 month dev cycle but it has a fuck ton of content and it's an overall well-rounded game.

>>384871038

So they could convince you to buy Nuka World.

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What two guns should I run with in survival mode?
Watched some gameplay of survival mode and it looks pretty tight but carry capacity is limited.

>>384870067
You need to learn to ignore obvious shitposters my man.

>>384861314
Get FNV w/ all DLC. Never buy BF1, it's shit.

>>384846556
Unless they can completely change the plot, mods will never truly fix it.

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>>384869963
Not them, but it can get a whole lot worse.

>>384870294
pretty sure, I think Codex/fitgirl may work. I torrented a backup copy in case any new patches bork mod support.

>>384846556

Have they modded skills back in?

>>384871954
Someday.
http://www.falloutcascadia.com/

>>384861784
So what's the reward for exploration in Fallout 4? The even more dull quests than in 3? Or you mean the super interesting pieces of lore that completely destroy the previously established story? Or fuck me, are you actually trying to tell me that the combat in this game is the reward itself?

Nobody plays video games where you don't get to win anon, there has to be a reward to push you forward. I don't want to fight a fucking horde of crabs to get a weapon that does fuck all against said crabs

>>384872057
>Nobody plays video games where you don't get to win anon, there has to be a reward to push you forward.
Keep on pushing that button to get the treat

Also I said >games are getting worse
The more retards eat up the Beth Fallouts without large backlash the more and more formulated they will be.
This is how a series dies and slow shitty death.

>>384861784
I'll take going through a dungeon for an unique weapon with a backstory any day over going through a dungeon for a shitty "unique" gun with a randomized enchantment

>>384846556
Shitty writing can't be fixed by mods and it ruins everything else. So, they didn't.

>>384872517

They're both a problem.
One is just grindy and loot pinata while the other is specific reward.
Go to Dungeon, Fight the Drau-I mean Raiders/Sythns/Etc, Collect Reward.
Take shortcut to entrance.

No depth.
Just repeat the trash gib reward gameplay model over and over. Fallout games are supposed to be RPGs. Not Single Player pseudo-MMO loot grabbers

>>384868439
>No reedemable faction
Holy shit, I fucking hated this
It's like the writers all got together and and said:
>Hey guys how do we make the factions have a little more depth to them? Apparently the BoS in 3 were too good and the Enclave too evil
>I know! Let's make them morally gray
>How do we do that?
>Oh... you know... just make them be as bad as they are good or something like that

>>384871038
Like said >>384871080 it's called the handmade rifle now. It's the same reason the creation kit didn't come out till much later than they said it would. Because people had already made mods that did what they added with the dlc but better. If they had drop that before the dlc no one would have bought them.

>>384871215
Depends on the build, personally I'm running a combat rifle with a 10mm pistol for a side.

>>384871215
Modded Combat Shotgun with Rifleman perk > everything else.

Wish obsidian would buy the Fallout IP, but thats probably never going to happen because Betheseda/Zenimax want to milk it until its nipples blee like they're doing to skyrim, at least with obsidian Fallout's lore would suffer the warth of incompetent story writers

>>384873091
No, it's never going to happen because Obsidian can't afford it. That's why all their new stuff is on Kickstarter.

Its funny how Fallout NV is buggy,dated but still a superior product to Fallout 4, you know what Fallout NV is Fallout 4 and this fallout is a shitty spin off from a smaller studio at Zenimax that is not Cannon in anyway, thats what I like to believe.

>>384873162
This world is a fucking kick to the head.

>>384860909
I often think people are less enamored with the content itself and more with that fact that the entire game was made in 13 months which is amazing considering the sheer amount of content the game shipped with

>>384872273
So let me get this straight; you're playing an open world "RPG" that doesn't incentivize the player to go out and explore? Have you ever played a FPS where you don't get to shoot at something? Or a racing game where you don't compete with other racers?

I just want them to have a good game design man, I would love to explore in new vegas or fallout 3 even if it only gave me a fucking bottlecap or a quantum nuka cola cause at least it had a nice setting, or a fun implied story told by the scene

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>ywn play New Vegas on a good engine

>>384873602
>you're playing an open world "RPG" that doesn't incentivize the player to go out and explore?

You seem to be thinking that the only way to incentivize players is with the promise of loot.

>>384873602
The thing is that Betheseda creates a world, then it writes a story.

Obsidian Writes a story, then creates a world to support a story.

>>384873091
>obsidian
They're so talented.

>>384846556
no

>>384873818
Better at creating a cohesive storyline that doesn't retcon everything under the Godrays

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>>384849865
The game gives the impression that your choices will in any way, impact the final outcome of the game.

All you really do in the game is sit and watch a cool CGI movie from start to finish. Any semblance of player choice is totally out of the question.

>>384849865
>Everything else about the game is either alright or fantastic.

what about the rpg mechanics being gutted and the procedurally generated quests

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>>384873761
>Obsidian will never make a HD rerelease of NV with bug fixes, improved coding and extra content that they didn't have time to flesh out like Legion
Beth would never allow it even in Obsidian had the money because even normalfags would see how much better it is than 4.

>>384846556
Ironically, it's not very mod friendly

>>384873778
For the sake of the argument I'll pretend you didn't read the rest of my post and so I'll ask you this simple question: What is worth exploring for? What makes you play Fallout 4 or any other open world game and get out of your settlement to see what's out there?

>>384869827
>You can literally only be kind of an asshole or a saint version of that character. That also means no roleplaying. IN A FUCKING RPG.
So, Ultima series has nothing to do with RPGs.

>>384869827
>You can literally only be kind of an asshole
I wouldn't even call it that. You can be an annoying douche who does what everyone tells him to or you can be a nice guy who does what everyone tells him to in FO4. That's it.

>>384874371

People/Dialogue
Quests/EXP
In the case of Fallout, lore/insight to the past or the area
Supplies in general

If most things worth finding in the world are just Weapons/Armor and Kill X quests it just feels shitty in an RPG.
Fallout3/4 suffer from their shallow writing and rely mostly on loot to make the world worth your time.
The games fall extremely short of all expectations.

>>384873793
I feel this is true and this is the reason why so many parts of the world are left unexplained or simply they didn't care to add a bit more depth to it

Like the whole gunner group that you get to find their HQs and even their leader, and yet you never get to learn fuck-all about them or why they're there.
Or the many other named "bosses" that you never get to learn anything about and are just there cause the dungeon needed a boss

Sex mods aren't developed enough yet.

>>384874679
Then you truly didn't read the rest of my post where I talk about not needing shiny loot cause I loved exploring in Fallout 3 and New Vegas and most of the areas had fuck all of loot simply because they had good stories and that is a reward on itself

But I seem to think it was a miscommunication on my part seeing you agree that fallout 4 had shallow writing. And this is why I find it so boring, because as you said it has to fall back to handing out loot with its shitty legendary gear system to make up for its boring setting and lack-luster story, and yet it fails miserably in this department too in my opinion

Truth is is can be turned into an OK stalker-esque shooter.

Threads like this one keeps getting posted and i keep replying with this youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZXvwVhJ10A&index=65
But no one really ever responds.

>>384867954
it's already made
It's better I guess, but only because it gets rid of all the horrible characters and dialogue and it's purely survival

>>384875358
Has anyone every tried to turn FO3/NV/FO4 into a STALKER clone? It seems like someone would have tried at some point.

>>384875142

So more or less we agree.

>>384875452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2gm4WY7Nh4
Probably closest one i could find.

>>384875670
It would seem so

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The peach, or cola? Choose carefully anon.

>>384876426
What if I insert both?

>>384876469
The last one in makes the difference.

Isn't one of the total conversion mods adding back skill points? It's a step in the right direction

>>384876426
I'll feed you a cyanide capsule you retarded weeb.

>>384876426
what if I smash both together, crush them, pour them in a bottle, and make her drink it?

>>384876426
Peach. I'm not a faggot.

>>384876775
You are for earnestly replying.

>>384876426
But she's already a girl???

>>384876863
How do you know?

>>384877026
Did you just fucking assume xer gender?

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I love Cait though. I spend a lot of time just relaxing and spending time with her, near the beach or building settlements.

I enjoy the game itself too. Played through with very few mods when it came out, now I'm playing through with like 190 mods active.

I liked 3 and NV, and Skyrim/oblivion/morrowind too. So maybe I just like the type of game a lot.

>>384877182
t. braindead waifufag

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>>384877505
Can't really deny that.

But the non-waifu elements of the games are fun too. I've enjoyed many years of bethesda/obsidian games.

>>384877505
Cait was a really cool character I even ended up cucking Curie for Cait

>>384846556
It's pretty nice once you mod it up, the settlements are fun. But the role playing is dog dick.

>>384846556
The way I see Fallout 4; it set up an awesome template for the next game. You can't deny that the character creation on that game was the best in any RPG ever.