Tomorrow it's Max Payne's 16th birthday

But Anon, there ever was only two (2) Max Payne games?

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>>384838675
>trilogy

>it's been 16 years since ITS PAYNE

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>>384838887

They were all fat.

is this the PAYNE residence...!?

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>>384839087
Don't

>>384839324
it's a rhetorical question

>>384839087
don't answer that...it's a rhetorical question

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Best game in the series.

HAVE NO FEAR

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>>384838887
WHACK HIM!

>>384838675
why does Max's face always look like he smelled something bad

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MY LADY?

>>384839871
dont answer that

>>384839871
He smelled THE FLESH OF FALLEN ANGELS

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>>384838675
>16 years later
>still the best TPS
im not sure how i feel about this

>>384838675
I don't get it how MP3 could sell so low. It was graphic wise one of the most beautiful looking games on the 360/PS3, it improved the gameplay from the previous titles a lot and they spent a lot of money for the advertisement, also the Rockstar name alone should have guaranteed a success, I mean it didn't flopped, but the last time I checked it sold 1,9 million units after a month or so.

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>>384839994
>mfw Sam Lake plays all those characters in these TV shows

>>384839994
You're making me want to replay the two games just to watch all these shows again anon. Maybe even Alan Wake to watch those notTwilight Zones.

>>384840175
>it improved the gameplay

This is where you are WRONG.
It improved animations yes, but gameplay got much slower and shittier as result.
The core mechanic is basically rendered useless because of the awful realistic movement and aiming delay.

>>384840175
Whether they like it or not, I think the average consumer expects a Rockstar game to be open world. The Max Payne name may only appeal to a small user base when MP3 came out, everyone else wanted another open world game from them. When it became clear that it wasn't one, they just moved on. Damned shame too, the gunplay was excellent.

>>384838769
>>384838769
You can dislike three all you want but by itself it's actually a good story. The only things really noteworthy for Max are him leaving New York because of mafia shit then finally having some peace after its all said and done while walking into the sunset. The soap opera with the demon baby was the funniest shit and Captain Baseball Bat Boy being animated was great. I fucking hate what GTAV became and MP3 and RDR were their last good games.

YOU'RE TURNING HUMANS INTO GLUE

I was already so far past the point of no return I couldn't even remember what it had looked like when I had passed it.

>>384840573
BAGHDAD WITH G-STRINGS

>>384840573
The story too is a total, generic mess as well, and does not fit well at all with the style and conclusions of MP1-2

These games are perfect. Why are TPS like this dead?

Oh, and
>Story
1>2>3
>Gameplay
2>3>1(by an inch)

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Why does this design appeal to my aesthetic sense and modern games dont? are we experiencing the uncanny valley?

>>384840175
Media only does well if it becomes a meme. This is the age we live in. Become a meme and you make money. This applies to literally all media.

>>384840948
I like the old era of blocky textures and minimal AA. Everything modern feels so fucking blurry, even at 1080x60. Useless fog, lighting, DOF effects out the ass. It's getting slightly better in the last year, but it's still bad.

>>384841336
I will never understand how there's a rise of post process effects that only serve to get in the way of the in-game assets. They make nice as fuck models, then employ expensive as shit DoF, motion blur, TXAA and other bullshit that just blurs everything the fuck up on top of eating performance as well. What the fuck is up with that design philosophy?

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>>384841336
but are we experiencing that so called uncanny valley or are the animations just bad?

>>384840318

Do so anon. They are some of the most rewarding experiences you can invest time on.

>>384841948
But anon... mirrors are more FuN tHaN TelEviSiON.

>>384840483
It was slower through the more realistic animations, but to say it was shittier is objectively a wrong statement. On a technical objective measurable standpoint the gameplay mechanics from MP3 are way above the amount of other 3rd person shooters.
It's not possible to argue against something like that, it's like when you arguing that 1 + 1 equals 2 is not correct, gameplay is always objective, I get it that people don't like MP3 in the was it tells his story (since you can't really measure storytelling in an objective way), but to say the mechanics are shit is simply a wrong statement.

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Anyone else got Max Payne Mobile? Suprisingly good port to play on the go, sadly its 1.2 gb for some reason.

>>384841845
Animations have literally never been better. I don't experience the uncanny valley affect with new games, it's just fucking blurry and hard to see unless you stand still and go "I guess thia looks nice, technically". All the stupid effects blend in while actually playing and there's so much to look at that it becomes a jumbled mess of pixels.

>>384841547
BECAUSE NICE MOVIE LIKE SCREENSHOTS BRO

Honestly, I'd be fine if games stopped evolving graphically and just focused on everything else. Games look amazing in a technical sense, but functionally they look like shit and even PS2 era games beat them.

>>384840092

Man I wish Quantum Break had a better story. The game play was actually fun.

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Post graphic novel edits

Why the fuck are games like Max Payne so rare? Games you play and truly feel the passion and fun devs had making it?

Also shit on 3 all you want but the way guns felt doing damage in the killcams is boner inducing. Such a fucking shame Rockstar made GTAV gunplay shit again.

Max Payne 4 needs to have different round types, bullet deformation, penetration and ricochet.

Playing Ocelot with ricochets would be fun as fuck.

>>384840948
One thing I kind of miss is when they used to use pictures as textures to hide the fact that their lighting engines were shit.

I replayed Return to Castle Wolfenstein a few weeks ago and it surprised me how well the visuals held up for a 2001 game, mostly due to the art style. Max Payne 2 was the same, shit still looks great today despite being ancient.

today is [/spoiler] my birthday

>>384842854
Same here, just turned 24.

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>>384842662
I don't have any sorry :(

>>384842662
Anyone have
>it was the worst thing I can think of
edits?

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>>384842813
>Max Payne 4

Let the guy get some rest and you seriously expect them not to fuck up gunplay after they fucked GTAV?

>>384842854
>>384842986
Happy birthday dudes

>>384840175

MP3 gameplay was a backwards compared to the previous ones, I felt that I was steering a car and they gimped out all the fun of exploring the levels + jump and no comic book cutscenes.

>>384842813

Realistically speaking my dudes, if Max got a new game what would you prefer?

>Full Reboot
>Soft Reboot
>HD Re-release
>Remake in the same vein as Nsane Trilogy, exact same games but redone and improved graphically for new consoles [spoilers] and more mod support for PC [/spoilers]
>Sequel
>Prequel

I sure as fuck would not be ok with a direct sequel. If 3 did one thing right to me is leaving the story in an optimistic note.

>>384843341
GTAV was casualized as fuck, though. MP will never be the cashcow that GTA is so there's no reason for them to dumb it down.

>>384840829
I'm pissed Mona actually died and they literally only mentioned her once in 3. Like I said I enjoyed 3 even if it's the weakest of them agree to disagree.

>>384842489

Or if it wasn't raped by being a Microsoft flagship title and the "We want this to be all about movies" garbage. The mini series was still great tho.

I think Alan Wake also had great gameplay it just needed more enemy types amd weapons.

>>384842489
>>384843659

I really liked the tv series in the first two MP games and heavily enjoy a good narrative mixed with fun gameplay. Is QB good on PC? Should I give it a try when on sale?

>>384843536
Prequel where he's fresh out of the academy and really to knock criminal heads, by the book. But as he words NY he gradually turns into the renegade we know and love. The game ends with him being offered a position in the DEA.

>>384842829

Yeah, lots of old games manage to hold up visually with tricks like that. Darker textures to give the illusion of Ambient Occlusion and shadows. It probably takes some time to set up and modern developers prefer to just use the build in engine lighting

>>384843536
I wouldn't mind another shooter in the same vein as Max Payne, like a spiritual sequel or some shit but a direct sequel, prequel, reboot or whatever the fuck? No thanks. Max's story was neatly wrapped in MP2 and MP3 was unnecessary. But it came out and was alright with an ending that's even more neatly wrapped up making a sequel or prequel even more unnecessary. Another game following some different hard-boiled detective in a noir plot? Sign me the fuck up. Max Payne again? No thanks.

>>384843536
I'd prefer a prequel where it's Max all undercover after his family died. I don't want to see Max happy to only end in sadness. Have Max walk the line between good and bad maybe throw in a flashback to when he met his wife or something as a beat cop.

>>384843536
I would let them rape Max's character and well deserved peace if it meant more fucking gameplay.

Or make Max Payne 4 and you're investigating the murder of Max as an NYPD detective and the whole department is interested in on it. They send you on early mission that is a trap, you shoot your way out, find a clue, etc.

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>post yfw both Remedy and Rockstar mention this birthday with merely a tweet

>>384843536
>Full Reboot
>Soft Reboot
>HD Re-release
How do these differ exactly? You really can't make a Max Payne game with changing his backstory. I can't see a reboot happening with a different story.

I would like a direct continuation of MP2 (perhaps with Mona lives ending) taking place in NY. Though it would be really confusing with MP3 around.

I still think they shouldn't have made a massive timejump in MP3. Max already being an old man really limits where the story can go, unless you do an alternate universe or some shit.

>>384843851
>idealistic Max without self-loathing
I'll pass desu.

>>384844216

A soft reboot is mostly using the same characters or backstory but spicing some stuff up such as Doom, full reboot is merely same names and nothing else, see Thief 4 that forever ruined Garret's personality.

HD rerelease is just the exact same game but with more AA and sharp textures to sell the game again.

Only played 3. Do 1 and 2 need mods to get the gameplay up to speed? I remember some anon the other day ranked the games, and a modded version of MP1 was his favourite, forget which mod though.

>>384844456

This. Part of Max's charm through the series was how cynical , bitter and sarcastic he was about everything around him.

"You're killin' me"

>>384843810

It kind of runs like shit, tho it still looks decent on medium-low settings. It was a pretty broken port. Still worth it, tho. It's biggest problem is the various interruptions in gameplay that a LOT of modern games suffer from. "Press forward to move in what is essentially an unskippable cutscene!". Gunplay is fun and the story is neat

>>384844216>>384844216
Full reboot would be new Max, sameish story. Family dies, tortured cop, on the run, it was Aesir.

Soft reboot would be either Max in NYC and MP3 never happened, or Max goes back to NYC and gets into some shit and MP3 happened but it doesn't
matter.

HD rerelease would be same dialogue, same voice lines, same story, same levels, different HD textures.

>>384842662
>Why the fuck are games like Max Payne so rare? Games you play and truly feel the passion and fun devs had making it?

Because modern AAA devs don't even play games.

Max was a normal, nice family man before his family died. Prequel wouldn't work.

>>384843536

If they make another one, I'd like to have a different character with their own story. Another anon mentioned playing as a detective investigating Max Payne's murder. It could be something like that. Related, but not beating the dead horse of Max's character.

>>384844210

16th birthday isn't exactly a good milestone. When they completely forget the game existed 4 years from now, you can do it.

>>384844519

MP1 requires a sound patch, 2 can work well but needs a widescreen patch in some PC's.

Anon likely was talking about Kung Fu mod, it's the fucking tits for a second playthrough. https://youtu.be/bwu_fd-D86w

>>384844456
Cynics are created, anon. Wouldn't it be interesting to see how he got there before it all kicked off in MP?

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>>384843584
>I'm pissed Mona actually died
>not beating MP2 on hardest difficulty

>>384844519
MP1 needs an simple sound patch. Don't mod it. I love 1 but it's a little dated gameplay wise. 2 feels modern. Dont skip 1.

>>384840573
>putting that awful fan fiction by Dan Houser on the same level as MP 1&2
Faggot didn't even went with the true ending. When will Rockstar sack his ass? I hope it happens, before they make Bully 2. I don't want to play a greatly designed world just for it having a generic und uninvolving story with asshole protagonists and whiny shit born from Houser's mid-life crisis.

>>384844806

I think he means she is dead by the 3rd game regardless.

>>384844806
>not realizing he was talking about MP3 which canonized Mona dying

>>384844781
He became the Max he know when his family got murdered. He wasn't a miserable piece of shit before that.

I'd go as far as to say the Max Payne is prob one of the best vidya franchises of all time. If someone told me that any of the 3 games were their favourite game, I wouldn't doubt them for a second.
They're all amazing imo and all hold a special place in my heart, even 3.

>>384844914
>>384845012
Well, he never specifically stated she was dead, he only mentioned "feeling bad about the Mona business". In theory, she could've survived and make a bigger mess later.

I'd be game for Max Payne 2.5.

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>>384838675

>>384844724
>sound patch for MP1
Is this why it sounded like ass when I played it? Nothing but occasional static

>>384844719
I'm that anon. I really want to play that idea now. It sounds like it could be great. Max's past comes back to kill him. Made an enemy that he forgot to kill. Over the game you learn that Max lived a great 10-15 years after MP3. Max's last thought is that he's happy it was a bullet and not the pills and alcohol that finally got him.

Then the series continues with a new name, new protag, bitter and angry from his experience in the first game.

Man I cant play the first game on my current pc because of geometry breaks.

And playing it on my win 98 it has framedrops at MAX

:(

>>384845050
Yeah, he wasn't "miserable" before that poin but the game makes it pretty clear that he'd seen plenty of nasty shit before that moment. He soliloquys about it a lot during the game. The death of his family wasn't a turning point for his understanding of the wickedness of humankind, it was the turning point of him caring about anything.

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>>384838769
Umm... Try again sweetie, there were 3 Max Payne games, two on consoles and PC and one on Game Boy Advance. Please stop embaressing yoursefl, your underage is showing. ;->

>>384845270
He literally says he's pissed Mona died and they only mention her once in 3. To bring up the fact she's dead

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>>384845275

>there are people who genuinely think
Infinite was a good game

>>384845316
Probably. Steam forums has a guide to fix that. Max Payne mobile has zero issues for some reason.

>>384845161
I dont think they are the very best but they are my personal favorite series. There is just so much I love about them to death, hell my profile pics on Steam has been Max1 faces for months now.
I played them to death before I even got them again on Steam, and now I have 150+ combining all of them. I still have a copy of 1 I got from a store back in 2002~ in perfect state.

I just fucking love all three, I genuinely belive they are some of the best games ever made.

>>384842986
Just turned 23. Brother?

>>384845920

Greentext got fucked, to clarify, Infinite can suck a fucking dick and I hate what it did to Bioshock's story and how bad the gameplay was.

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>>384845826

>sweetie posting

>>384845864
Did I miss something? When he stares at his wife's tombstone in the final NY level, he says "I still haven't forgiven myself for the Mona business, but I knew that was just grief". Literally the only time she's namedropped unless you count the TV easter egg.

>>384843536
>remake like nsane trilogy

definitely this, much less chance of them fucking up the mechanics if they try to make 1:1 copy. only stipulation being that they use the same cutscenes in the originals, ideally with a high resolution they might have

>>384845483
>Here it is. The ironic exclamation point at the end of this joke of a life. Dodged the full capacity of San Quentin's goon's bullets and the thing that gets me is the one I never saw coming. Damn, hurts a lot worse without the booze and painkillers. At least in the end it wasn't the whiskey and vicodin that did it. Michelle, are you waiting?

>>384838675
There is only 1(one) Max Payne title. 2 and 3 were fanfic mods.

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>>384846420

>Michelle, are you waiting?

IT'S THE PAYNE IN THE BUTT
PAIN TO THE MAX

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>>384846464
>talking shit about 2

Max Payne 2 is kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsiE44Lz_w

>>384846575
>Michelle is waiting
>So is Mona

>>384846714
Gameplay-wise 2 might be a progression, but its story is utter shit and tries too hard.

>>384838769
>>384838856
Fuck off, Max Payne 3 is a great game. Why is it considered so bad?

>>384846420
I should have changed this to

>At least it wasn't the period that cirrhosis and a long hospital stay would have been.

>>384846808
Michelle and Mona wouldn't go to the same place when they died.

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>This faggot.
>Every playthrough I get stuck on this part.

>max payne 3 is shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEH_LSL4rVw

>>384846936
Yeah, that makes sense.

Unless Catholic heaven is real and Max did some heavy penance, Max isn't going either.

>>384847256
Meant to reply to>>384847017

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Does someone else finds playing these games kinda uncomfortable?

Max is just so determined to be miserable at some points that I kinda feel very sorry for him. Especially in 2's normal ending and 3's Favella level. The part where he gets mugged , beaten and hated upon by the locals yet he tries to justify it ( they grew up learning to hate people like me) like he deserved it just hits pretty bad.

Max is like a self loathing /r9k/ if it had balls to go nuclear and the skills to make it out alive.

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>>384843067

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Every time these kinds of threads pop up, it makes me miss the games that had that stylized, John Woo style gunplay. I'm a sucker for games with that type of combat and it's pretty much all cover based, over the shoulder shooting when it comes to most 3rd person shooters. I hope that the over the top gunplay that we see in these types of games makes a comeback one day.

>>384847173
I save grenades and molotovs for this part. If you time it right, you can destroy the two waves of enemies that come in the door easy.

>>384847401
>/r9k/
how dare you compare max to those pussies

its one thing to be an angsty autismo, and another to have life shit all over you

>>384847401
I felt particularly bad for him in 2 where he is pinned down by goons and says something like "this is the first time in ages I didn't want to be dead" because he had Mona watching his back. And then, of course, it turns to shit.

It's like he's stuck in an eternal hell where he wants to die but is too damn good to let himself get killed.

>>384847401
He wants to die. He just doesn't want to make it easy and do some good in the end.

The favela level and later levels of MP3 are Max trying so fucking hard to commit suicide and it just not happening.

>>384847521
if DOOM and wolfenstein can revive old school FPS, it can be done with TPS

>>384847793
Remedy has to do it.

I masturbated to Mona's shower and sex scene a lot as a teen. And when I found that nude mod, jesus.

>>384843453
Happy Birthday!! Best wishes for you and everyone reading this

>>384847521
I still wonder how Max's arm wasn't taken off by that .50

And the texture Rockstar modelled for the wound suggested it entered his arm at a perpendicular angle, rather than grazing him, which would spell a dead Max.

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>>384848115
MP1 Mona>MP2 Mona

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>From the shifty look of the librarian and the dust of disuse, one would have expected an ancient tome of edlritch lore to spill itself from the shelves and consume me whole. Instead, I found a beat-up paperback with the cover torn off. Beyond the water damaged spine and the suspect stains on the pages, somewhere between the uneven type of an amateur press, I became acutely aware that I had lost my mind. I would need more than a stiff drink and a bullet to get it back.

>>384848063
That sex scene was so satisfying in a "oh fucking hell, finally" way.

>They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark to everything that had lead up to this point. I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over.

I love the writing in Max Payne so much. Is there anything else like it? I don't think any game has done that style better than MP 1 and 2.

>>384848140
>Max has bullet holes right on his heart
>Is fine

It's best not to dwell.

>>384848474
Whenever a character receives a gunshot or injury that is not part of a cutscene or scripted event, that injury is not canon.

>>384848474
That's just his shirt bleeding.

>>384848625
Payne canonically has CHIM, he just isn't very good at using it to get what he wants

>The past is a gaping hole. You try to run from it, but the more you run, the deeper, more terrible it grows behind you, its edges yawning at your heels. Your only chance is to turn around and face it. But it's like looking down into the grave of your love, or kissing the mouth of a gun, a bullet trembling in its dark nest, ready to blow your head off.

>There are no choices. Nothing but a straight line. The illusion comes afterwards, when you ask "why me?" and "what if?". When you look back and see the branches, like a pruned bonsai tree, or forked lightning. If you had done something differently, it wouldn't be you, it would be someone else looking back, asking a different set of questions.

>>384848625
It was kinda funny how Max kept his gunshot wounds during the cutscenes in MP3 though.

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>>384842163
>It was slower through the more realistic animations

Yes and that's why it's shit.
Gameplay >>>> presentation any fucking day of the week throughout the entire year.
This is why MP3 is objectively shit, it's a downdrade by every definition of the word gameplay.
It got flashy animation which binds you fitlhy casuals and makes you not see how slow and terrible the gameplay is.
Even motherfucking Strangehold shits on MP3 gameplay.

>>384850183
This is the best quote over all 3 games.

>That part where Max walks in on gang members who don't know it's him, so they form a party looking for Max

Reminder that Remedy is now free from Microsofts clutches and they can do anything they want.

>>384850672
And they don't own the Max Payne license.

It's Alan Wake 2 which I'm just fine with.

>>384850672
Apparently they're already working on a fresh IP that's heavily story-driven. I hope they go back to telling shit during gameplay like Max Payne 1 and 2 and Alan Wake. QB had way too many breaks in the gameplay for me to really appreciate my time playing it. Major part of the story being in literal TV shows with zero gameplay made things even worse.

>>384851504
QB the show was supposed to be separate but then MS cut funding a bit and they jad to shove it in the game.

>>384851804
Personally, I just dislike the idea of having relevant story shit in other media like TV and comic books. It just makes it a huge chore to get the full experience. The QB show had decent acting (though I didn't watch a lot of it) but it's so fucking boring when you just want to play a game and get the full experience there.

>>384852286
Agreed, but it was nice Remedy got a shot at a show.

>>384838887
HOLD IT

>>384850524
That game was fun