Is it too late to play FFXI?

yes

unless you own a time machine

>>384825884
Why? Is it way too late to catch up with the latest content?

Most of the old content is done solo with AI partners but the modern endgame is kind of like a mini version of how the game used to be.

The game's not as good as its golden age but it's still better than most trash out there

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>>384825523
If you want to experience the community people tend to mention whenever it's golden days is brought up?
Yes.

If you want to experience the story?
No. In fact the story is easier than ever to experience the story since you can now fill out your party with NPCs instead of having to find other players for most of the content.

>>384826860
How does the story compare to XIV and the rest of the games in the FF series?

>>384827084

It's good enough to be a single player FF storyline and makes XIV look like a parody of FF games.

What made it truly special was playing through these story missions with friends, one party of 6 people having fun enjoying the storyline together.

>>384825942
The game has changed drastically since it came out, it's almost a different kind of game. No longer do you have to find other people to play with, the game gives you AI party members. You mostly walk around a empty world barely seeing another real person. The only incentive to playing a MMO is to chat and play with thousands of other people in the same world, now the game is virtually dead which loses its MMO meaning.

>>384827381
>XIV look like a parody of FF games.
Really? All my friends and everyone here on 4chan are always saying how great the story is in XIV.

>>384825523
They made it where you can solo the game from start to finish with an npc party.

>>384827623
>>384827589
So I'm assuming it won't take much to get "caught up" with everyone else?

>>384827814
Yes since they are no longer giving the game patches or expansions

>>384827814
It'll still take you a long ass time to really catch up to level cap players. But it should be much easier now than if you were playing 5 years ago.

>>384827875
How's the player base these days? I'm afraid of getting caught up, then losing my progress because the servers get shut down.

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>>384827084
Easily in the top 5 of the series. Each expansion's story could probably have worked for a stand alone game if they'd wanted.

>>384828029
Asura is the largest North American server on FFXI, but FFXIV's largest NA server still massively triumphs it in terms of size.

As for when the servers shut down, nobody knows. It could be at any day and any time.

>>384827814
It will still take you forever.

And there is still content that will be retardedly hard to do alone and without a wikipedia open in another tab.

For example you have to do quests every 5 levels starting from i think 60 to be able to level another 5 more. Those quests are not fun alone at all

>>384828101
Don't bully the goblins

>>384827598

You have to remember most of them compare XIV to MMOs like WoW, so by comparison XIV has a very good story.

When you compare it to an actual MMOJRPG like FFXI you can see the massive quality leap. It wasn't just the quality though but the quantity of it, you had a storyline for each city, each expansion, leveling quests, and countless other long questlines (not WoW styled quests, but actual JRPG styled quests) that took you around the world and on some fantastic adventures. There were more than a few that would bring real tears out, some heavy stuff..

If I recall someone taped every single storyline mission and put it on youtube as a full collection and it's somewhere around 1300 videos long.

I remember endgame being constant macro spam to switch gear for minmaxing weapon skill damage

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your chilling on the ship from Selbina and this guy slaps your tarutaru gfs ass and delevels her, what do you do?

Did this go F2P at some point?

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>>384828416
>yfw the end of CoP

>>384828416
>not WoW styled quests, but actual JRPG styled quests
the quests in XI were identical to other MMO quests except that they don't blatantly mark the location on your map and you have to read more text.

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>>384828269
ゴブwwwwww

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>>384828451
Get my ass slapped and deleveled as well because who fucking knew that Valkurm was the level 10-20 hotspot and not Buburimu Peninsula.

Back to Sarutabaruta to get to level 10! Again!

>>384828575
>F2P
DISHONORABU

>>384828575
Nope, still has a monthly subscription fee.

>>384828613
I wanted to hug Prishe when she started crying.

>>384828450
And that's bad because? its better than a gear treadmill where you just chase the highest iLevel

>>384828689
And a lot of guess work/trial and error, unless you read a wiki

Also
>Reputation

>>384828852
There wasn't a single character in CoP I didn't care about. I even loved the Chebukki triplets. Compare to XIV where you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who cares about even a single one of the Scions.

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>>384828575

No and it never will. They hinted at a F2P tie in game or a remake a while back but all we ever got from that was one image.

>>384828450
I couldn't even get to the endgame because I was so bored by the leveling. You literally grinded monsters for hours out in the open field. It also didn't help that the netcode was built for dial-up players.

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>>384828993
one day

>>384828938
Never said it was. I just recall it being nonstop macros and stressful as fuck. I miss needing to invis and muffle your footsteps to sneak around though.

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>>384828613

>tfw you went out and triggered the final cutscene without knowing it was coming

Ruined me for the rest of the night.

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>>384828613
Prishe is best girl.
I'm going to spend far too much money trying to get her on Brave Exvius in a couple weeks, and all I'm going to have to show for it are a bunch of Werei and Kupipi. Halp.

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>>384828613

>>384828938
FFXI horizontal system works better for endgame, but I feel that FFXIVs vertical system is better for new players and progressing through the story. At some point FFXI's gear system becomes too much for new players because of NM spawn timers and how competitive shit gets for upgrades you NEED from the open world.

>>384828946
>Reputation
what did he mean by this

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>>384828993
Theres like 2-3 out there and just went silent about the mobile remake so far.

>>384828993
Thank god that never happened. I would rather play that single player version someone was making in RPG Maker than a Nexon-made mobile remake.

>>384828996
I miss that part of it. Actually chatting with strangers for hours and the excitement of leveling for a brand new zone together. I got to know so many people.

>>384828996

I can't recall many open field leveling areas.

>Grinding
>Not referring to it as partying
>Considering it boring when you're playing in a party with 5 other human beings and are given ample time to talk and converse with them
>Not taking advantage of this time while leveling to make friends

One of the most enjoyable leveling systems around.

>>384828982
Oh yeah. I forgot that they found their dad at the end.
There was that Galka and the Not-goblins, too. That was a pretty sweet ending.

>>384829245
Me, too! Kupipi is a cutie so getting a bunch of her won't bother me. Werei, on the other hand, will get annoying though cause he's the 3* on that banner.

>>384829428
>>384829436
if I wanted to chat with strangers in 2003 I would have hopped in a AOL chatroom, could also be playing Quake 3 or Bid For Power if I wanted better gameplay.

>>384829367
Fuck, I mean Fame.

Its obvious I moved to WoW after my FFXI time

I really miss FFXI, I still think back on it sometimes with good memories.

>>384829514
Then it wasn't for you. I loved the experience.

>>384829428
It got to be a bit much by the time you got to the 60s pre-TP burn. I remember spending hours in bibiki bay fighting dhalmals and sometimes not coming out a level ahead. I really did like the traditional mana burst set up most of the time though.

>>384829354

You didn't NEED any gear, all content (until the grand fuckening) was doable with basic AF gear.

New players were fairly well off too because half your AF set was good for endgame and everyone started off doing Sky content regardless. Sky shells were easy to join and you needed that practice before moving on to harder content either way, you had to learn your job and understand how alliance battles work. By the time you came out of Sky you had everything you'd need really, the rest could be bought on the AH.

>>384829779
By that point I was in a dedicated linkshell with regular groups and voice chatting anyway

XI's world seems cool but the gameplay completely puts me off. Also it looks like the game is NOT keyboard+mouse friendly so playing with a controller is a must.

>>384829779
ALL MONK TEAM
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>>384829436
XI leveling back in 04 felt like such an 'innocent' time on the internet. No one was ever mean and everyone was eager help and talk while waiting for stuff to spawn. Part of the reason why I'll never play it again is because it'd break my heart seeing how empty the game is

>tfw will never again train a shitload of bats to the entrance of garbage shithole so everyone had to wait for all the mobs to walk back to start leveling again.

>tfw will never again repeatedly run back in and keep them near the entrance.

Good times.

It's not too late. You can play and experience all the story yourself with trusts solo without needing anyone. But the community is friendly and plenty of people will team up with you if you want, too. And if you manage to reach endgame there will be endless things to do with real parties. The game is still fully alive, servers have been consolidated sure but the playerbase doesn't need millions of players to fill a single server so the economy and community functions perfectly and the content is solid. It's a fun comfy game

Is there a /v/ FFXI linkshell/discord on Asura?

>>384829990

It was controller friendly but most people played on a keyboard, as in keyboard only, your mouse had no real purpose. It worked great because the game wasn't about hopping out of red circles on the ground and more about timing and knowledge. You'd move yourself with your left hand, move the camera with your right, and alternate using both to hit various macros around the keyboard as you played.

Undeniably awkward for anyone who has never tried it or is only used to WoW but it worked fantastically.

I played this game from 2004 to 2006. I kinda want to play it solo just for nostalgia. I'm not interested in hitting max level or endgame grinds. Is it worth it?

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>>384829456
Nah, Werei is the 4*~6*, Kupipi is the 3*~5*.
Werei being the 3* would be pretty crazy with his TMR; +20% HP & +40% ATK when equipped with a Greatsword.
My biggest problem is that the characters are limited time only. For a crossover event with another FF, it's retarded to limit them like that. They could at least run XI events more frequently or have the characters obtainable via raid like the XIV ones.

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RES PLEASE
50g!

>>384830103
>Ywn again steal an nm that 5 jap bots have been camping for 20 hours and watch them rage when they try and say it's their claim and not yours

>>384830137
are you playing right now? post some screenshots of stuff in-game?

>>384827875

The game is still getting gameplay patches and updates and content. Just no big story content

So if i want to try the game on custom server what do i chose and what does this server lacks? Does it has 100% story line and side quests? Basically i only want to go through the story. And i don't want to grind. Is there any private server that has same fast leveling as retail?

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Wtf was her problem

>>384830312
So is the story officially, canonically finished/over?

I remember acting like a slut as a Mithra. Whisper erp in the middle of a leveling party

>>384828450

Sure if you play a boring braindead damage dealer job and want to be dead weight to your party by doing nothing but spamming weaponskills, but it's far more nuanced than that, and teamwork is important or you're going to get wrecked

>>384830460
The war ended so she can't experiment with new magic on subhuman beastmen anymore. :(

>>384830531
Yeah. The story finished with Rhapsodies of Vana'diel

>>384830458
private servers usually are buggy and don't have some spells or story stuff working

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov3-K2aRwQY

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>>384830460
She was better than everyone. It's a huge burden.

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I played this game when I was younger, I fapped so fucking much to those catgirls in my parties.

It had slow combat, which was helpful.

I remember being so hyped for FFXI after seeing the treasure of aht urghan or whatever trailer for Xbox 360. Then when I finally got it, patched it, and played I couldn't get past how slow the game was even on a next gen console at the time. It turned me off completely.

Still, the music was pretty good though.

FFXI's okay IMO, but it's hard to recommend to people. If you have no nostalgia for Pre-WoW MMOs, then you probably won't like it. Leveling's easy nowadays, and you can do most of the content by yourself with a team of NPC characters you unlock. Which is good if you just want to do the story stuff, and grind some random gear here and there. But teaming up is harder and harder due to waning player populations if you don't have a good linkshell of friendos to chill with.

There's a couple private servers (or were, haven't checked recently) that try to capture the old level 75 cap feel, but fall short mainly due to the servers being far deader than what it was really like in the old days. Nasomi is probably the closest to being classic FFXI. But I'm sure all private servers have issues like missing content that might become annoying, and of course classic FFXI is VERY party oriented, meaning you'll HAVE to team up with people, which modern gamers don't like doing outside their little circle of friends.

Even on the live servers I see randos come back or start the game and then complain about how hard it is to get anything done because they don't want to build parties for stuff.

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>>384830810
>all those mithra doujins

>>384825523
It's a pretty amazing and fun game with a group of likeminded friends and I'd say it's still worth playing today, even if they've made the majority of it easy mode. Everyone also needs to have a general idea of how to proceed, like what party makeups are good and to actively work towards that, otherwise there's going to be more grinding than is necessary.

What kills it for me, though, is how the game is a little too real in term of its size and scope. The world is fucking massive and your character runs at a decent speed but it's still way too fucking slow considering how big the maps are. Even navigating one of the starter cities can be a fucking chore. I'd love to play it again sometime with a group of likeminded friends, maybe even record our playthroughs for posterity since this game will likely be shut down in the next couple of years, but it's definitely a pretty specialized game, even among MMOs, that requires the right mindset and dedication.

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Is this the single greatest MMO intro and MMO cinematic of all time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TGe6PC-Tk4

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>mfw signing up for the first time

>>384830263
>>384830287
Holy shit, the fucking memories. The bots really pissed me off because NMs were already hard enough to camp for normally and these fucking faggots aren't even playing the game.

It's a bit criminal that they still charge like $13 month for a game this old. At least with WoW you could pay for gametime with in-game currency and in FFXIV the legacy sub is only $10

i'm ready to kill the last boss of rhapsodies when you catch up /v/

>>384829990

It's a PS2 game, designed to be played with a controller. The keyboard controls can be easily learned if you use the numpad for movement and arrows keys for camera, tab for targetting, etc. but at no point should you ever touch the mouse, it's useless. Just play with a controller, it's easy. Or get used to the learning curve of the keyboard controllers, or remap them to suit your needs, but the game doesn't require a mouse and wasn't made at all with mouses in mind so forget about that, it's just not a mouse game. It's like faulting FF6 for not letting you use the SNES mouse from Mario Paint. Not really a valid complaint

>first time fighting maat

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>>384830810
l-l-lewd cat g-girls!

>>384831329
>It's like faulting FF6 for not letting you use the SNES mouse from Mario Paint.
You know, this sounds like it would've been a neat feature.

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>that one guy in Jueno that had THE hat

How many tries did it take you guys? Took me two

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>>384831034
>millions of Mithra doujin
>no Elvaan doujin
:(

>tfw there will never be another MMO where it actually takes years to progress and earn your best gear
>tfw there will never be another MMO with slow paced tactical combat
>tfw there will never be another MMO that actually encourages forming strategy with your available assets instead of just auto grouping with party finder.

>>384831568
>tfw there will never be another MMO where it actually takes years to progress
thank fucking god. I would love this for a F2P MMO but not for a MMO that charges me monthly.

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>>384831438
>>384830810
I'd be totally fine with just having Xi and XIV exist as separate things that cater to different audiences, but what I can't forgive is the XIV races straight up supplanting the XI races. That's unforgivable.

>>384830181

It's absolutely worth it for nostalgic purposes, trust me you'll have a blast finishing all those expansions with your party of NPCs and definitely cry at the end when the story ends with Rhapsodies of Vana'Diel tying everything together. It's probably the only MMO with proper "ending credits". Then you can say you beat the game pretty much, no need for the endgame grind at all to do that

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>>384831438

>>384831647

The point of XI was never the item rewards but rather the journey, and the journey was oh so amazing.

>>384831313
Why? Each server probably has >1k subs and thousands of mule characters ($1/month each). There are F2P MMOs with a smaller playerbase than FFXI.

>>384831647
I'm kind of surprised that FF11 still isn't free to play. I guess it's still making them money. It'll be sad when it goes from paid to shut down without even offering F2P.

>>384831775
No, anon. You don't understand. The ONLY thing that matters in an MMO is watching the numbers on your gear go up.

>>384825942
No, quite the opposite. The game's "latest content" ruined the spirit of the game, much like SWG went down the toilet.

To experience FFXI when it was great, you would literally have to own a time machine and go back to 2006 or so

>>384831698

SE made a lot of mistakes with XIV but it's just downright inexcusable for them to copy paste the races like that, they even went as far as to homogenize them by removing many of their iconic features. You lose all of their lore and background by doing this and it's not like they even tried to replace it with something new, such a shame.

It's amazing as a whole how much they copy pasted from 11 into 14, so fucking lazy.

>>384830458

Avoid any private servers, they're all buggy messes with absolute guesswork done for every single part of the game because no one really knows the true formulas for the gordion knots of the game's mechanics, so everything will feel off, or simply not work altogether, and 90% of everything is missing or flat out not working anyway. Just play on the real servers. Best experience, fastest leveling, trusts, and everything works properly. There's not a single private server with all of the story functional

>>384831497
Jack-O'-Lantern did a few. I remember at least there was one with Areuhat and another with Shadowhand.

>>384829514
>if I wanted to chat with strangers in 2003 I would have hopped in a AOL chatroom
Why the fuck are you bitching about talking with strangers in an MMORPG?

There are games for you. They're called single player offline RPGs.

>>384831876
I have a feeling that FFXI has until FFXIVs next expansion to finally go F2P. Last I heard they been shifting people from XI and other FF gamedev teams to help out XIV. That's why Stormblood is gonna have ivalice and stuff.

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>>384831034
>All those Mithra artists who moved on to Miquo'te

I want to die

>>384831876
I think they should at least just make it buy2play. Give it a cosmetic (And only cosmetic) cash shop for all I care. Asking for me to pay a monthly fee for the game at this point is insane.

Fun/God Tier
>Beastmaster
>Corsair
>Black Mage
>Blue Mage
>Black Knight

Instant party find tier
>White Mage
>Ninja/war
>Paladin
>Summoner
>Bard
>Red Mage

2 hour wait+ tier
>Everything else

??? Tier
>Geomancer
>Rune Fencer

How come FFXIV players hate FFXI so much?

>>384832312
The implication is that if I wanted to talk to people like in a chatroom because gameplay was so slow, I wouldn't pay a monthly fee for that when I could hop in a free chatroom and play another multiplayer game like quake or that DBZ mod.

>>384832368
That happened? I haven't seen many XIV doujins at all, let alone ones by notable XI artists. Do they just not get scanned these days?

>>384832098
This. Private servers for anything are a crapshoot, but trying to play FFXI was a nightmare. It felt wrong even as someone who hadn't played the game before.

>>384832479
Because they feel the need to justify all the time and money they spent on that game and thus can't acknowledge that it's watered down

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I'm slav and XIV sub just got tripe price increase in Russia. For me it previously costed 259rub, not it costs 756rub which is the same price as XI.
I'm really disappointed in Stormblood, the story sucked ass, the gameplay changes are horrible.
My favorite class DRG is now fucking garbage.

Since the sub price is the same i'm thinking about switching to XI. How's DRG in that game? I fucking loved DRG in XIV.
I also wanted to play SMN in XIV but that EGI shit instead of actual summons really pissed me off. SMN in XIV is basically Ruin Mage.
How's SMN in XI? Can you like summon actual prima... i men Avatar like Bahamut or Alexander and it will obey all of your commands and shit?

Also what about races, in xiv the stat difference is very little, i heard that in XIV it's very big and you can't reset your character race.
I liked to play Elezen in XIV, so how are Elvan in XI? What jobs they are good at? Does DRG and SMN work find on Elvan?

>>384832447
GEO's God-tier, and mandatory for anything serious. RUN's also very strong as tank or DPS depending on what you're doing.

>>384832479
Because FFXI doesn't have a bunch of buttons to spam to hold their attention.

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>>384831698
>>384831698
I liked that mithra didn't look hairy but acted really cat like, they were all shaved so were the best of both worlds. They had that catgirl thing but there was no hair.

I tried ffxiv, saw that furry tail and was instantly grossed out. They also are animated like normal humans, so was a double fail.

I'm sure furies like it, but for me it will always be Mithra > ffxiv ones.

Reminds me of a story that always sticks in my head from this game.
>new player joins our linkshell
>we're one of the biggest on the server but can't really compete with a handful that are full of the no life NEETs that play literally 20 hours a day
>new guy is clueless but we're all really helpful and gradually teach him
>he must have played nonstop because i never saw him offline
>he reaches high enough level to join us in end game stuff
>see his attitude gradually change to know it all, more and more arrogant and disrespectful
>suddenly he's too good to help anyone and only wants in groups if he can be allowed to roll for gear
>he causes a splinter in the group because he's trying to boss his way into some sort of power position despite having been there for a fourth as long as most of us
>one day see that he's joined the biggest linkshell on the server
>transformation into shithead complete
>he now pretends to not know any of us and is too good to speak to us
>i am still a teenager at this time so it gets under my fucking skin like crazy knowing i taught this fuck how to play and suffered through him constantly wiping our parties just so he understood mechanics only for him to turn his nose up at everyone

>>384832479
You got it backwards. FFXI players HATE FFXIV.

Mostly because SE killed off FFXI and slowed down development to get people to switch to XIV.

I don't know what job I want to be when I come back. Back at 75 cap I loved Blue Mage for versatility, how it could go from DD to healer to tank depending on what the party needed. But it seems these days people just expect it to DD.

What are the most fun support jobs? GEO and COR look fun.

>>384832479
It's a lot slower and more RPG than MMO. Granted that's why I love XI, but I can see why people wouldn't. It's a very different game

>>384832328
They have stated they have no intention of ever going f2p, there is still a dev team working on it and it's still pretty popular all around the world.

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>old computer hard drive with all my hundreds of screenshots over several years lost to the abyss, probably in a forgotten corner of a landfill somewhere

Feels bad man

>>384832691
A lot of FFXI players seem chill about FFXIV and recognize it's a different game.

>>384831876

Well to this date 11 is still the most profitable FF game in the series, why fix something that isn't broken? 14 for as popular as it may be now is still heavily in the red because of all the resources dumped to remake it after the massive failure of the original. It will likely never reach the profit of 11. In fact if it weren't for the cash they were making from the success of 11, ARR wouldn't exist at all. They siphoned resources from XI to make it. And yet somehow the game still lives and makes them money even though they've treated it like shit and ignored it and actively tried to kill it so people would move on to XIV. So no reason for them to take away a revenue stream that refuses to stop printing them money

>>384832584
what do russians think of all that america election shenanigans?

>>384832881
Don't you fucking dare

>>384832793
They may change their tune when shareholder investors force them to make a decision. SE bosses are at the mercy of their investors.

>>384832706
COR is fun but it was expensive to play in my day.

I'm not sure how the economy is now. Might be a bit of a chore to craft your own ammo seeing as it'll need a fucking high crafting level in more then one craft

I would recommend people still play it for the story lines at least.

>>384832851
It's almost like XI has shitloads of content that isn't invalidated every few months, and requires you to actually spend time playing to accomplish anything so you become invested in your character and your gear. Unlike XIV which has the producer telling people they should just take a break every few months when they run out of things to do, and puts new shit on the cash shop every month or two.

>>384832995
This. The npc party system makes the best part of the game easier to see. It kills the community, but let's be honest it was already pretty dead when Trusts were implemented.

>>384832851
XIV has been massively in the green zone for years now. But it still hasn't made as much money XI brought in. However it's only a matter of time since ARR is only 4 years old while FFXI is 15 years old.

>>384832851
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't possibly advise them to stop making easy money. I just wish that they would make it free instead of shutting it down once it's no longer profitable. I know servers cost money too so there's no real reason to make it free in the first place but it's just a little dream I have.

>>384832584
>How's DRG in that game?
It has a pet wyvern that fights alongside you and has shit like elemental breath attacks and healing breath for your party.

>How's SMN in XI? Can you like summon actual prima... i men Avatar like Bahamut or Alexander and it will obey all of your commands and shit?
Yes. You start with Carbuncle and gain the others by defeating them in combat.

>>384832970

you just buy it off a vendor now

the price of playing a COR is a non-issue these days, in terms of ammo and trump cards.

>>384832969
Why would shareholders want it to be free? How would making an old game that requires active servers free2play become profitable? Unless they add a cash shop or something, they'd sooner shut it down than simply make it free.

>>384832969
I don't think you understand how they treat their ff brand games, money isn't the main issue.

If that were the case you would not even have ffxiv now.

>>384832584
You could literally drench the panties of new players just by summoning Fenrir or Diablos

>>384833143
ARR only profits because of the cash shop. It struggles to keep subs, and only rarely peaks at what FFXI maintaned for seven years straight at its peak.

>>384832969
F2p won't happen because it costs too much to convert it, they already stated this last year.

They considered it and it cost too much.

>>384833336
sauce plz

>>384833293
Make the game buy to play like guild wars and add in a cash shop that gives quality of life improvements.

>>384833336
You'd have to be stupid to deny that XIV isn't successful when it comes to player count. As for retaining subs, that's just the nature of Themepark game designed MMOs. People play the content that's relevant, beat it all, then unsub when there's nothing left and wait for the next patch. I mean WoW (the most popupar mmo ever) for over a decade does this exact same sub retention model.

>>384832584

SMN in FFXI is amazing, fun, and the best depiction of the job in the series. Your summons are huge, and you can do anything with them. And you summon the real things and order them to do whatever you want, you're in complete control. The summons are:
Shiva
Garuda
Ramuh
Leviathan
Titan
Ifrit
Carbuncle
Fenrir
Diabolos
Cait Sith
Odin
Alexander
They all have the iconic attacks like Diamond Dust, Inferno, Zansetsuken, Tidal Wave, etc. etc. and many more things of course, not just damage, for example Garuda can heal and haste the party

Bahamut isn't summonable due to story reasons but he's there. There's also Phoenix and Siren heavily tied to the story but not currently summonble, but they could be added as new avatars in the future (like Cait Sith, Odin, Alexander etc. were for their respective expansions)

>>384827589
>The only incentive to playing a MMO is to chat and play with thousands of other people in the same world
Funny, I thought environments, story, music, art, and gameplay would count as incentives to play a video game. But I guess MMOs are shit at all of those.

>>384833932
All of those are better in single player games without a monthly fee or dial up netcode

>>384833932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesY1XssACM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzrmwcSizIY

FFXI has that covered.

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>>384834104
>implying any single player game has an area with as much atmosphere as Ronfaure or Zi'tah

When did you learn to feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesY1XssACM&feature=channel_video_title

What's the best job to solo most of the game?

>>384834193
>>384834229
Damn hivemind

>>384832835
>>384832479
I must be imagining all of those XI players that just love to shit up XIV threads. Very mature fanbase.

>>384834237
Beast master?

>>384834237
Whichever one you have the most fun with.
Trust NPCs can fill any other roles you might need.

>>384834202
tower of latria is the fucking definition of how to do atmosphere right in video games, single player or otherwise, you fucking pleb

I would totally play FFXI if I didn't have to pay the same sub price as FFXIV.
They should do a promo where if you have a XIV sub, you can play XI for free too.

>>384834549

There's a 14 day free trial for FFXI, and if you buy the game after you get 30 days free too, plenty you can get done in that time without having to sub

>>384834549
That would be nice, and I can see a lot of players completing the new and weekly content for FF14 and then spend the rest of their time on FF11. I see some decent value here. Too bad SE will probably never do this, or at least offer a fucking discount for subbing to both.

>>384834549
they used to have a discount for being subbed to both. not sure why they got rid of it. :[

any XI discord/linkshell

>>384834892
Wow, that's some fucking bullshit. That's some pretty scumbag shit.

>>384834797
I don't have as much time to play because I have a job. So those 30 days of time will go by fast and I'm pretty sure XI is not as casual as XIV so I will need to invest more time to get shit done.

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>Can't afford $12 a month.

That's literally an hour of minimum wage work you fucking NEETs

>>384835017
If you have time for XIV, you have time for XI.

>>384835034
>Implying I'll have the time to play

Might as well get a bunch of shit stuff in the humble bundle i can breeze through

>>384834997
to be fair it was when XIV originally released. so i guess they dropped it when XIV was f2p for awhile.

>>384834892

They've actively tried to kill FFXI to get people to move permanently to 14 but the game just refuses to die and they literally had to announce that the game will continue receiving content after announcing that they were ending it. They had to backpeddle so hard to save face because they realized they fucked up. The ending of Rhapsodies literally says as long as there are people with passion for Vana'Diel, the world won't be consumed by the void (analogy for the servers being unplugged)

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>play black desert online
>there's so much to it that it's overwhelming to the point I that I felt like a helpless teenager playing FFXI for the first time again
>drop BDO and resub to XI

>>384834549
I'm pretty sure the thing stopping this is how garbage PlayOnline is

>>384835017

It's not as crazy as before, you can complete all the story content in the game before the free sub period runs out. If you want to still play after that to participate in endgame that's your prerogative, but all the story content can be done before you're forced to sub, and you don't have to continue after that if you don't want to. If you enjoy the game enough to want to continue playing after that then it's worth the sub price

>>384835034
I think it's more of a value thing. FF11 is a good game but is it $12 per month good? That's kind of a hard bargain. At least FF14 is still pretty active and relevant. Starting FF11 from scratch is tough to justify with that fee.

>>384835201
Ahhh. Still, they should've brought it back.

>>384835115
I already kind of struggle to play XIV because the game overwhelms me with content and I only have about 3 hours a night to play

>>384835267
funny thing is you sub for XI in the same way you do for XIV. it's not the mogstation, but your SE account. you can even see both subs on the same page.

>>384831698
At least the Au Ra are original, though 9/10 Auri women look like trash.

>>384835267

None of the game's payments or account management is done via Playonline anymore, it's done online just like XIV, Playonline is just solely for logging into the game and that's it

I'd strongly recommend playing the game to any new people. Join the Asura server. That's the "official" English server. There's a pretty big Reddit (yeah, I know) Linkshell. It's actually pretty helpful.

I made a character and managed to get a few 99s and complete tons of the story arcs in no time at all. Of course I had the experience of playing before so I was pretty familiar with some of the weird stuff, but I also hadn't played in about 5 years so there was still a lot for me to learn.

I may start up again soon to try to finish off the rest of the story.

>>384835616
Fuck off

>>384835616
>I made a character and managed to get a few 99s and complete tons of the story arcs in no time at all.
how long did that take?

>>384835663
Damn bro. New here?

>>384835756
Month and a half? Not even a a whole of playing daily.

Again, it certainly helps that I knew a lot of the basic ins and outs, but there's plenty of guides for new people to help you get caught up quickly.

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>tfw Distant Worlds starts playing
>tfw you can't go back

>>384828029
Even if SE shut down the servers they've been updating the game over time to completely eliminate the need for other players. I wouldn't be surprised if when the time came they just rereleased the game as an actual single player FF entry

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FFXIV > FFXI

Stormblood is the new CoP expansion

>>384835864
*a whole lot of playing daily.

Weekends I got to play a good bit but weekdays I don't have much play time.

>>384835876
I really hope that happens. If not, what will happen to XI entirely? Just another unplayable, dead MMO, spawning poorly coded, shitty servers?

>>384835919
You aren't too wrong. Stormblood's story is fucking amazing.

Not sure if anything will capture that feel of Promyvion for the first time, though.

>>384835956
I doubt it. SE is really intent on at least having serviceable mainline FF games as seen by the original FFXIV

>>384835919
I'm looking forward to more omega raids. It seems like it's going to be dissidia the raid tier. Hope we get to fight warrior of darkness or sephiroth.

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was it a meme?

>>384836137
judging on omega's last bit of dialog near the end (I think it was right after ex-death?), I'm placing my bets on the next tier being old FF heroes. Though that may be saved for the final tier.

>>384836137
It's FFV you fucking retard. God, how did all of you idiots get so fucking convinced that it's Dissidia?

>>384836186
Nah its still camped to hell on various servers.

>>384836186
nah man that shit was good.

also pictured: best menu background option

>>384836186

It was good for like 5 seconds with Kraken DRK souleater bloodweapon shenanigans, but otherwise was a meme and is completely worthless now outside of novelty

>>384836297
I seriously doubt all 3 tiers are gonna be FF5 wankfests. They've already blown their FF5 load with Neo Ex-Death.

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>>384836297
Calm down nerd

>>384836456
>Sacred and Minotaur
>Azulmagia
>Necrophobe
>Gilgamesh
>Enuo
>Bartz

>>384836137
>>384836456
Producer specifically said they did Omega because they have a bunch of FFV staff and fans. It's just going to be FFV.

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>You'll never cuddle a Mithra and hear her purr against your chest in the warm grass

>>384836186
For most serious things, yes outside of DRK zergs, but god damn if K.Club RNG wasn't some fun shit for grinding.

>>384836796
they never said anything about ex primals or whats for ivalice raid tier

how long does it take to get a mythic weapon

>>384831493
Never got it, but I did hold the record for the RDM fight on Gilgamesh back when the server existed.

>>384828993
Really hope it got canned.

>>384837059
Still going to take several months unless you're loaded just because of how long the Alexandrite and ZNM grind is.

>>384825523
way too fucking late, like so late that my slowpoke died from old age.

Is it just me, or do some of the noises/cries male Humes make when attacking sound nearly identical to the ones in MHFU? Same grunts, same cries.

>>384832368
Miquotes never took off in Japan through liar, Japanese really dislike their design since is a downgrade from Mithra.

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Got my mythic

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>>384835919
That why is dropping subs faster than how Overwatch is losing popularity? Only people that RP play this game, you can tell since only the RP servers are full now.

>>384837686
>coneheads
I'll show you perpetuity cost
*whips out dick*

>>384827814
depends

the expected gear requirement for shit like Paladin is insane and nobody will want you unless you have insane endgame shit that still takes forever to grind except you have to do it all alone now

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Riding raptors in Sauromugue Champaign is comfy

>>384837810
What job do you recommend then

>>384837940

GEO is pretty easy to start up on to get parties for stuff so you can gear out your other jobs

>>384837940
You'd have to ask someone who actually plays

I came back a year ago only to find nobody wanted Paladin unless you have your Ochain and then I quickly fucked off after clearing most of the story content I never got to see

>>384837906
Crab is best mount. No other mount even compares.

>>384838063
>>384838086
thanks. do you recommend using a keyboard or a controller? if the latter, which one?

do i need to party up with people for the last expansion? i heard you can only solo "most" of the story, but not all of it.

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>>384838385
>controller

>>384838385
You'll probably need to party up with at least a couple of people for the final stuff for Seekers of Adoulin and Rhapsodies, unless you've got some of the stronger trusts and are on a strong fairly versatile job yourself.

>>384838772
My keyboard only has 68 keys.

>>384838772

Xi is the perfect game to play with a controller. It's slow paced and menu based. Super comfy game with a controller

>>384835034
minimum wage in US is like ~$8ish. That's not that little.

>>384838385

I recommend getting PS2-ish controller (PS3 or PS4 or generic logitech one works fine) since the game was designed around it. The very final fight of Adoulin might be hard to solo for a new player without good gear but people are generally eager to help for that, just do a shout if it's too difficult for you, but that's far far at the end so you don't need to worry about it for a long time and all other expansions are easily doable by yourself and trusts

>>384838927
>Typing out macros with a controller
Have fun with that

>>384839139
it's literally $12 a month. if you starve yourself for a day and skip lunch/dinner you can get it.

>>384836001
Oh, I'm sure they will at some point
when they repurpose the Empty content for use in XIV

>>384834892
>>384834997
That was back in 1.0 when it was XI keeping XIV alive. Now they want to dump XI but can't because the playerbase is probably more consistent than XIV and ditching them would be extremely dishonorabu.

>>384839289

You can still use a keyboard while using a controller dumbass. Everyone in XI uses a keyboard for typing. But you move and play and use macros with the controller

I did the FFXI release game story (no expansions) and it was garbage.
Dunno what people meme about.

>>384839868
Expansions are where it shines, really. the core story is pretty basic and dull.

>>384839868
If you asked literally anybody they would have told you the city missions (especially Ranks 1-5) are much worse than anything in the expansions

Anyone from Shiva on here?

>>384840797
Why do people play on non-Asura servers in 2017? What are you doing man

>>384840981
Honestly it's because of all of the people i've met on Shiva from 2004 to now.

>>384840797

I am

>>384841256
Shit man, what's your characters name?

Anyone on Asura? I'm literally new.

>>384841409
>Anyone on Asura?
Everyone that speaks english

Nothing will beat the first year of na launch.

>>384834229

All those fucking memories. Miss all the friends i made in that game they all long gone now :(

>>384841338

What's yours? :P

>>384835247
Is BDO fun?
I haven't really played a MMO before and the two I was considering were BDO and FF14

>>384841802
It's better than FF14.

>>384835247
Bdo is the game i wished ffxi was back in the day.

I dropped bdo cause of ffxi a swell

>>384841801
I'm Majormeowmix

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>>384841868

>>384842005
Honestly, I found it pretty tough to decide whether Prishe or Aphmau was best girl.

>>384842005
To be fair that's not exactly high praise

>>384841942

Sounds very familiar, I'm sure we've partied before many times in the past

>>384827598
To be fair, XIV story is great if you compare it to say...XIII or XV.

>>384842579
lol, that's not saying much then.

>>384842579
realm reborn story was honestly much worse than FF13 even

>>384828260
They made most of the Genkai turbo easy. You don't have to fight Lichs and Exoray for G1, hell you can even open the Garlaige Gates alone.
G2 might gives you trouble but you don't have to kill the Boreal NMs anymore.
G3 has never been hard.
Same for G4.
G5 might give shitters trouble if they never bothered learning to play their job and hiked a ride from one of the older players.

>>384842579
>XIV story is great if you compare it to say...XIII
No way, maybe the Dragonsong war stuff from 3.0 is a bit better but outside of that XIV's story ranges from mediocre to straight garbage. And if XV wasn't a mess of bad pacing and wasted potential it'd also be better than XIV but we can't get good things from SE anymore

>>384843170
you can actually blame FF14 for FF15s issues.
like that was one of the big reasons for the delays.

>>384842579
Having the 3rd worst story above XIII and XV does not make it any better.

>>384843112
Even infamous shit like RDM G5 is pretty easy now since they can just Vorpal Blade spam the old bastard to death.

>>384843305
Just another reason to hate FF14 more.

>>384843305
Honestly even if ARR's development didn't pull from other games I don't think XV would have met expectations and I say that as someone who still kind of likes XV.

>>384843546
I mean, when they first announced it it wasnt supposed to be anything but a FF13 spinoff.
Expectations were raised down the line, especially when they labeled it FF15.

>>384830103
>Man, fuck Garlaige. Never again.
>Ok, now I've got to go to this Crawler's Nest place. pt waiting for me outside for some reason.
>"Hey guys, thanks for waiting. Shall we head inside?"
...
>"What do you mean they still haven't left?"
>"Okay, I'll just look real quick."
>welll shit this place sure is laggy....OH SHIT NOOOOOOOOoooo.

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Where’s the best place to actually buy the game at this point? Saw the 29.99 digital code on Amazon, but does that include everything?

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Sup, that's a nice exp pt you've got there.

Why does everyone like XI?

>>384844394
If it's the Seekers of Adoulin Ultimate collection or something like that, Yes.
You'll want to search around on BlueGartr or Reddit though for a more up to date version of the game unless you literally want to spend a week patching it.

>>384844394
SE store and Steam both put it on sale every couple of months and unlike FFXIV, Steam vs other retailers doesn't actually matter.

The amazon code will get you everything and is the same price as everywhere else so you can just get that

>>384844541
The way I've recently started looking at it is that FFXI is like if you took a classic FF game and made it into an MMO. FFXIV is like if you took WoFF and made it into an MMO. FFXI is pure final fantasy, FFXIV is pure final fantasy references and some people prefer the former.

What is CoP and why do you all love it so much?

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>>384844394
Steam?

Anyone want some boots?
Post your ratio for some of those rare loots. Pre 2006 if possible.
3/7 Boots.
2/13 Hairpin.
1/43 Ochuido's Kote.
1/29 F. Kyahan.
1/9 Charm.
1/33 Alky Bracelet.
1/15 Z.Mitts. Shit wouldn't drop at all for my ls back then.
I'm missing some others but let's start small.

>>384845209
Chains of Promathia was the second and one of the hardest expansion.

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>>384845209
Chains of Promathia, the second expansion pack.
Great story, characters, music, locations, and challenging but not bullshit fights (when done at the intended levels).

>>384841802
People around here overhype it. As someone who followed it from announcement to release, the devs have absolutely no idea what they're doing. The game is unbalanced as all hell, endgame PVP is heavily skewed towards premium members, monster AI is completely mindless which renders the combat system to be pointless, and there's nothing for endgame PVE players. They also cut out just about every interesting sandbox feature they planned at launch. The game went from an EVE-like player driven economy full of bandits, mercenaries, sellswords and heroes, to a game where you can't even trade between players. Like, holy shit how do you bungle things up that bad?

If it's your first MMO, I'd honestly suggest FF14 instead. BDO is a nice walking simulator with beautiful visuals and a gigantic world, but FFXIV actually has some semblance of community, which is where the true spirit of enjoyment comes from. If you want an open world action RPG with good combat and a huge world, go play Dragon's Dogma instead.

>>384844551
>>384844687
>>384845416
Is it worth actually doing the trial first? Like, am I gonna bump into the 50 cap or be shit on by not having the expansions for the first levels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVuqN0RBFcY

Great video on why FFXI is great

>>384845524
>but not bullshit fights
Nah, the Promies were total bullshit when they came out. They had to patch it up to make the climb bearable.

6-4 was harsh if you where one of the first going in without knowing what would happen.

>>384845783

It wasn't really bullshit, if people were competent and prepared it was a very fair challenge. What made it difficult is that there was always one idiot in the run that screwed things up, or aggroed something, or didn't listen at all. Always one idiot to make something turn from a good challenge into a nightmare. A well-tuned group that knew how to work together could tackle it with no problem

>>384832285
there were a few artists in jackos stuff that did just do mithra dickgirls. Some of them were pretty decent. Still favorite doujin was the shantotto, naja, prishe one.

mithra x tarutaru was good too

>>384845783
Promyvions weren't all that tough capped.
Now the stuff after them...?
I never did clear those mammets until after the cap had been lifted.
after which I annihilated them. several times.

>>384845624
So the biggest limit on you by playing the trial as a low level player will probably be that you're locked out of Rhapsodies of Vana'diel, which gives you key items that increase your EXP earned and make leveling much, much quicker. But that depends on whether you'd actually want to do parts of Rhapsodies that early anyway, since it's technically the final story in the game (though it's set up so that you can do it while working through other expansions) and some people hold out on doing it until they're done with everything else.

Other than that I don't think anything in the trial really dicks you out of anything important on the way to 50 and playing the trial doesn't really hurt you in any way

>>384833610
on top of their astral flows you have separate abilites called bloodpacts to command them to do offensive and defensive/utility things. Shit is cash

>>384832479
I don't hate XI but I can't manage it's ui and controls at all. I've been spoiled by more modern games.

>>384846270
Well cool. I’ll roll up a character on Asura then once the download finishes.

>>384846241

Eh I beat mammets easily on my first try with my first group when it was still new, they just had an annoying mechanic you had to deal with. Had a harder time with Ultima and Omega airship fights but winning was satisfying as fuck

>>384844509
If you were anywhere near his wandering path than you were a fucking idiot anyway.

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>>384846546
>once the download finishes.
Have fun patching

>>384846443

The UI and control is easy as fuck to understand, have you never played a console FF game before? I never understand this complaint. It's an online FF game, not WoW with an FF skin

>>384837702
Still getting queus on coeurl.
Don't know what you're talking about.

>>384846546
Find a download of the patch files online. The FFXI patcher is incredibly slow

>>384832479
Why do FFXI players hate FFXIV so much

>>384846678
You never had those douchebags jp BST pulling him to both zones for shit and giggles?

>>384846546
>once the download finishes.
See you in two months nerd.

>>384846938

We don't but at least we have a valid reason to, seeing as your game siphoned the life and resources from ours and gave nothing back, yet the game still goes on which makes some 14-ers salty. "WHY WON'T YOU JUST DIE ALREADY, STUPID OLD SLOW INFERIOR GAME" FFXI people don't care about XIV existing, it's just they tend to be insufferable and think their game is the second coming and that FFXI which is a completely different style of game is "backwards" and "outdated", much like FFXV babies think turn-based is oudated and inferior to SUPER COOL FAST ACTION COMBAT

>>384846912
No, it's a rite of passage for every XI player to go through PlayOnline's patching process.

Remember that escort mission near the end of CoP? Remember that one fucker that would always forgot to click the final point and couldn't enter the BC?

>>384847158
>We don't
Okay sure.

>>384847158
Do you still play FFXI?

>>384847249

Oh god the tower climb in that palace in Sea with those luminant things...

>>384846938
I don't hate FFXIV but I do think it's not a very good game. I can see why some XI players do hate it though. FFXIV 1.0 was built to basically replace XI, which is why the races are so similar and it's set up in a similar way with 4 nation states, one of which is more secluded than the others and it had a shitty replacement for the skill chain system, and so on. Around the same time as 1.0, XI started receiving changes players didn't like like abyssea, and they saw this as SE trying to kick them off of XI so that people would play XIV instead. But XIV was mostly awful so no one played it, and XI was left in a state a lot people didn't like (in their eyes, because of XIV), so the whole situation was a lose-lose for XI players. XIV started getting patches over time that made it somewhat better and eventually a remake was announced. Not much was known about the remake but a lot people (myself included) assumed it'd be basically 1.23b in a better world with more content on a better engine, and the early screenshots of the alpha were in line with that assumption (pic related was the earliest concept image of ARR we got, and it looks more like 1.23 styled combat than ARR style combat) Before the remake came out, XI got an expansion that put the game in a better place than where it was but for a lot of people the game was forever ruined because of XIV because the level cap had been raised multiple times since 2009 or 2010 so old content was sort of wasted. More and more info for FFXIV comes out and eventually the closed alpha happens and it turns out it's a straight WoW clone, which is fine for some people, but that's not what the veterans of the game were expecting.

To sum it up: FFXI veterans felt like they were being kicked off their game and told to go to FFXIV, FFXIV gets remade because it's bad and turned into a WoW clone, FFXI gets left in a state that a lot of veterans don't like and now they don't have anywhere to go.

I remember people being outraged when FF12 came out and I had been playing FFXI already for years so the game felt just right to me. It's funny now that people are finally appreciating FF12 with the Zodiac Age release, maybe some people will go back to 11 too and see it wasn't the red-headed stepchild of the series it was painted out to be when it was first released (made a lot of people angry too by being a mainline FF game, being online, having a different combat system, subscription fee etc. etc.)

>>384832546
Apparently Neko-Sentai have all scanned XIV (and tons of XI) doujins hidden behind a patreon wall.

>>384837059
I started working on Tizona completely from scratch this year. So far it's taken 1 month for Nyzul 1-100 + NM Clears, 1 and a half months for Einherjar Tokens, Nyzul Tokens, and Assault round 2, and so far 3 months still working on Alexandrite doing 4 Bhaflau Remnants II per day and making roughly 8k Alex per month and I'm still not done yet. After this I'm looking at X months of Magian Trials and farming 10,300 Beitetsu so I end up with the non-shit 119 version.

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>>384848934
Forgot image because im retarded

>>384847158
>getting reverse trolled this hard
Well the rest of your post was fucking retarded so I shouldn't be surprised

>>384849994
They have but their scans are terrible the guy who scans them uses his phone. I've two doujins of 14 sitting on my shelf but been busy and lazy about scanning them.

>>384827598
Yeah well everyone here on 4chan is fucking wrong, this shouldn't surprise you.

>>384828575
There's a free trial now. It's vanilla content only with a level cap of 50, so there's not much you can do, but it is 100% free for 2 weeks.

Reposting this CoP-era private server.

https://kupoffxi.com/

>>384827598
HW was good, SB was pretty dogshit, 2.0 had its good points but all anyone remembers of it is RETURN TO THE WAKING SANDS and 4 fucking levels of being errand boy before they let you actually fight Titan.

>>384848934
You have to point that before XIV came out, XI players were willing to throw they walled at SE if the made an "FFXI in HD" with "more instanced NM fights."

That's it, they were willing to pay both for XI and XIV if the game was that simple, but instead SE dropped the ball and forced players to jump into a bad game while making their money maker worse.

>>384851404
>HW was good
The start was great and the very end was good but the ending of the Warriors of Darkness stuff is so incredibly awful it's impressive that someone actually wrote it and it got ok'd. The story is seriously just

>WoD: God is letting my world die so I have to destroy your world to save mine
>God: No wait i'll save your world
>WoD: Oh thanks

>>384834312
Thats just a vocal minority being shitters.
I played the fuck outta PUP because my internet was to shit to do endgame content. I even played XIV 1.0
My only salt was the fact they got rid of the tails on the Galka.

>>384851404
>being errand boy before they let you actually fight
it was like this the entire game

>>384834229
Is there seriously nothing they could do with this game, with the source code they have an all the super limited areas, making a remake or something after all the years they spent working with the game and knowing every inch of it would be something they could do instead of just leaving it and never changing how it's played.

>>384852773
Most if not all of the people still working on the game weren't around when it was made and probably don't want to touch most of the source code in case it breaks something they don't know how to fix. With how old the game is there really isn't anything they can do with the current client. On top of that remaking the game would be incredibly expensive, and they'd rather pump some of that money into FFXIV cash shop items.

As for the maps and textures you can actually get those to work in unity and unreal with some work but honestly if they remade the game they wouldn't use those maps, which is why the screenshots we saw of the mobile reboot had zones that looked much different. Maybe one day far in the future VR will be rad and SE will make this a reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohg11ZbcQ1s

>>384832584
>How's DRG in that game?
Fun. Your pet wyvern makes up for your slow attacks and is responsible for a lot of your damage output. When you use a weapon skill he breathes fire or another element. Jumps are good for building TP, so SAM makes an excellent subjob so you can weaponskill a lot.

>how are Elvan
Hit harder but have lower accuracy and dodginess compared to Humes. Not the best choice for magic classes. Pretty much the exact opposite of your standard Tolkien elves.

>How's SMN in XI?
They get proper summons, indeed. The quest to unlock SMN is quite a chore though. Don't make it your first main job to level to 99.

>>384852773
Pretty sure SE has stated multiple times that they think an XI remake or upgrade would be far too expensive and not worth the effort. It also doesn't help that most, if not all of the original developers for XI are long gone and it's only a small skeleton crew of new guys trying to figure out how to unfuck the spaghetti code the oldies left them.

>>384838772
It's literally a PS2 game ported to PC. A controller is the only way to play. The keyboard controls are woeful.

>>384851556
1.0 was made for (and by) fucking China, a market FFXI couldn't really be released in, so the existing primarily Japanese FFXI audience wasn't really a major consideration. It wasn't just a departure from XI but Final Fantasy staples in general, like how it used all new classes with super generic names that didn't require translation from Japanese to Chinese.

>>384852494
They generally don't go "oh man we're totally going to go fight this thing" then directly tell you to do unrelated bullshit for that long. They either try to pretend it's related (actually I don't think the build up is that long or much of anything else short of Nidhogg) or the fight doesn't come up until later.

>>384853686
Well there is one in development, just as a Chinese phone game (see above)

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Y'all weren't kidding when you said it was gonna take a year to patch, fuck.

>>384845624
Yes. You can use the trial time to get some monotonous chores out of the way first. Get a good subjob to level 50. Do the Delkfutt's Tower mission without accidentally triggering the start of Chains of Promathia storyline (nothing shits me more than doing the stories in the wrong order.)
This sort of stuff. You can spend a good week getting little things done that you won't need to later do in time you're paying for. You get more bang for your buck.

>>384854916
It has only begun.

>>384854916
What you don't know is, this is actually supposed to be a secret subtle tutorial for XI. Gets you used to having to wait several hours to play the game.

>>384855161
>>384855576
Once it finishes patching, can I just grab the install folder and move it to a different computer? Gonna throw it on my work laptop so I have something to do while I’m on call at night and I think it’ll actually end me to sit thru the patching on there

>>384855889
You can with the dat files, i'm not totally sure if moving the client and the rest of that stuff works

So wait, is FFXI basically a single player game now?

>>384856058
Most of the game can be played like one. You level up quickly and can summon npcs to your party and a lot of level restrictions on old content were removed so you can do most things without other players

>>384856058
Yes you can solo all the main story content including the latest Seekers of Adoulin expansion and Rhapsodies of Vana'diel.

>>384856058
Yes and no. For doing storyline and EXP grinding, yes. For doing post 99 content, not really unless you want to only solo "Easy" difficulty events (you can set difficulty levels for some fights now). As far as socializing goes, unless you go out of your way to shout for PUGs, help newbies, or stream yourself playing chances are you will never talk to anybody else because XI is very clique-ish these days.

>>384856232
>>384856413
Sounds good. I might actually pick it up at some point.
I feel it would be prudent to actually play the game rather than just whore the soundtrack and play Prishe in Dissidia as my only experience of the game.

>>384856484
>because XI is very clique-ish these days.
Why? What's it like? Is it bad as /xivg/?

>>384830810
Mithra are patrician tier taste. Mi'qote are humans-with-catears trash. Nothing will compare to the love for Mithra.

>>384846938

I don't hate it. I just think it's boring. It's perfectly fine for people to like something I don't like.

>>384856694
can anything be that bad?

When people say NPCs can join your team. Do they mean people like Prishe or just generic job classes like Black Mages?

>>384835034
>minimum wage
>12

Ha, that's funny shit.

>>384854916
>Only 6h.
Nothing will beat CoP's launch day.
>8h update.
>30mins before it finishes the server crash.
>SE being the shit they are we you relaunch the update process it restart from the begining.
>It crash 3 more times 30mins before the end.

>>384835919
>comparing SB to Chains

Get the fuck out of here. CoP and AU were golden age shit. SB was a good direction but it's already stale shit.

>>384856694
You can be in the same zone with 3 other people who need the same item/objective as you and nobody will try to team up even if you will each get the thing upon completion.

>>384856802
http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Trust:_Prishe
http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Trust:_Prishe_II

Pretty much every notable character has at least one trust.

>>384856846
I stayed up until 4AM trying to get the NPC companion update to go through. It would start, then fail because of number of people trying to connect. I endured many days of school on 2 or less hours of sleep because of Dynamis too.

>>384855889
>can I just grab the install folder and move it to a different computer?

Yes and no. The game won't run without the registry keys (thanks Bill) so you'll have to install it from scratch but you WON'T have to patch it again as you can overwrite the fresh install with the version you've already patched, do a file check (couple of minutes) and call it a day.

>>384856802
You can get pretty much every major character ever as an NPC party member.

>>384856802
You can do a quest that allows you to go around picking up scrolls of important characters and NPCs from the world/storylines. You then turn those scrolls in to the original quest NPC and you get the ability to summon the character as an AI helper on demand.

>>384856986
>>384857120
>>384857204

Welp, my interest is peaked. Does FF11 still have an ongoing cost like it did back in the day?

>>384857712
yep

>>384857712

Yes. There's also costs like 1$ per character, and if you end up really getting into it you can pay extra for wardrobe slots you can access anywhere in the world.

Some specifics on NPC's summoning.

You can only summon 2 buddies (or 3 maybe.. i forget) at the start. You have to complete Rhapsodies of Vana'diel to unlock more NPC slots in your party.

>>384857068
Dynamis was always strange for my ls, we'd get one or two AF doing the clear, maybe a 100 against some random NM.
Then comes the last 15mins and as we're trying to clear the last few remaining status the floodgate would open and you'll see the treasure pool fill up with AFs, 100s and crafting mats.

Going to work with a half-chub that won't go down because you're thinking of that Duelist's Tabard isn't fun. Even more so when the ladyfolk thinks it's them who are causing it.

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>>384848934

Pretty much correct, I missed partying with randoms exploring the world. It actually felt like an adventure with how dangerous the open areas were.

The island of Wut
Ask Sundi he does not know
Red like Ferrari

SE, why can't XI get this or that feature?
>PS2 Limitation.
SE, why can't XIV get this or that feature?
>PS3 Limitation.
SE, Why can't ARR get this or that Feature?
>PS4 Limitation.

How long can they keep getting away with it?

>>384827381
You're fucking kidding yourself if you think XI's story isn't anything but puerile dogshit.