Why is Overwatch losing it's popularity?

>>384824584
Battlegrounds

>>384824584
Battleborn

>>384824584
Blizzard

Benis

>>384824584
benis

>>384824584
Ballistics

>>384824584
Boredom

>>384824584
Butts > Boobs

Because

>>384824584
Bolsheviks

>>384824941
No anon, it's spelled Battleborn

Blizzard

>>384825018
Bullshit

>>384824584
B

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>>384824584
People came for the porn and stayed for the gameplay, but the gameplay isn't good enough to keep people hooked.

because it's a shallow boring game

No idea actually.

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>>384824584
Blizzard can't balance for shit and it makes for a very frustrating game.
On one side you have shit like sombra which is useless unless you're on a top 500 six stack and in one side, shit like junkrat which is useless unless you're against retards.
And then shit like genji or 76 which are insanely good and literally never bad picks.

People are tired of it and there's not enough constant content to keep them locked and make them forget about it by playing new content.

Jeff saying the game was balanced was also a bigger kick in the balls.

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>>384824702
Fat fucking chance.

Baladins

that is what happends with class based shooters

>>384825056
HOW DO WE REACH THESE KEEEEDS?!

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>>384824584
It's just getting boring. Not to mention Blizzard would rather put more content in HoTS than Overwatch's content for a month thing.

>>384825018
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

Casuals get bored easily as with what happened with Pokemon GO

>>384825056
>being this autistic

No significant changes for an entire year.

>Maps are still horribly designed
>Only steady flow of content is skins, which are fucking limited
>Defense heroes are on the cusp of being fucking useless cause attack heroes do their job better

>>384825189
out of all the things to compare you chose the worst

no new content and balance patches take forever
it gets boring real fast cause you have the same team comp every match every day
also blizzard nerfing shit characters and buffing strong characters kinda ruins it

What they need is an even rarer level loot drop which cannot be bought with coins and features skimpy character skins.

Waifus can only keep your team based shooter going for so long. Haven't played for a long time either but from what I do know balance is fucked.

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I like it. I just avoid ranked and fuck around in quick play.

>>384825281

Wait no, that's not true. Symmetra got reworked I guess

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not enough cute cosplayers

>>384825316
desu I think he's right. it's not like the try-hard mlg trenchcoat people on this board and others take overwatch seriously, and all of my normie friends who played in on consoles just see it as old news.

people finally started realizing how sr and matchmaking works

lets just say it isn't the best system

also this
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>>384824584
People are finally starting to realize it's shit

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>>384825153
I STILL DONT HAVE A SINGLE FUCKING SYLVANAS SKIN AND SHES LITERALLY THE ONLY CHAMPION I PLAY FUCK YOU BLIZZARD JUST FUCKING FUCK YOU

No modding

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Because
youre
ugly

>>384824584
Season 5
Dive Meta

Summer/ Vacation

No event right now
Terrible boring meta
New hero is not a support, and instalocking dps players are everywhere which sucks since I'm best with Reaper and I'm tired having to constantly go support
No new cinematics a la tf2
Summerfags

>>384825352

That and games don't even feel like they matter. You bullshit for 5 minutes, then everyone vomits ulti's in the last 15 seconds.

>>384825281
>Maps are still horribly designed
Bullshit. The maps are the best for 6v6 reactionary gameplay.

>>384825104
This, blizz balancing and low content is retarded
people dont want to play 20 games in a row on the same maps with the same 8ish heroes

Add to that a extremely low skill ceiling so people can't really "aim" to get really good like league, dota or fighting games.

>>384824991
butts are just boobs that literal shit comes out of

>>384825597
(you)

>>384824991
>>384825553
both is twice as good retards

>>384825597
>le ribbit bogeyman

>>384825534
They are all just boring tubes with two passageways max. Compare that to TF2 or fucking UT. There's some good maps there

>>384825534

No they fucking aren't you faggot. We have Hanamura, Winter Hanamura and Desert Hanamura, all maps that are pure choke point hallways. All maps with a dozen rooms at the sides no one will ever go to because they don't provide alternate paths or any incentive whatsoever

>>384825597
>I know all about how reddit acts

>>384825597
You seem to know a lot about reddit

Because it's shit.
When two free games (Paladins and TF2) do what you're trying to do better than you, you have a problem.
I don't like Paladins myself, it's too grindy for my taste, but it's clear that it has other things Overwatch lacks.

>>384825597
reddit wishes it can have quality threads like these

>>384825534
>walk into choke point
>'woah shit, enemies'
>react by shooting until the wall weakens enough to move forward to the next area or you get wiped and have to try again

Cause blizzard has been a meme since wc3. The disastrous way they handled sc2 shouldve made it obvious.

>>384825497
this is really the big problem. i predicted early on they would just steadily tone down ults but i guess they didn't? the whole game was about using 3 or so ults at the same time. it's fucking stupid and hard to believe this has not changed. i think i had seen enough around the end of season 2 or the start of season 3.

>>384825852
>until the wall weakens
You have no idea what the current meta is do you?

Paladins has the better waifus

>>384825546
honestly to reach 5k you have to give up your fucking soul

it matters less about practice and more about persistance.


it's such a shitty game to play. the community is by and large the worst i've ever come across and probably ever will come across.

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>>384826063

>>384825803
>>384825791
You're both fucking retarded. Do you think people that say "reddit" avoid it like the plague? Everyone has been on reddit before. Reddit is a fucking website. The reason that I don't go on Reddit is because I've been on it before, and it's filled with faggots. You think everyone here hasn't been on Reddit due to hearsay? You're delusional

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>>384826063
>Paladins has the better waifus
F A C T
A
C
T

>splatoon got more maps, balance updates and weapons in its first year
Just swap characters with weapons. Also OW is slow as fuck.

>>384824584
babadook

>>384824584
By what metric is it losing popularity?

>>384826004
Ults are really powerful, I get that they are supposed to be, but it makes games so hectic when they are involved, you end up in this state of constant tension playing the game because it can happen so fast, I wonder if nerfing ults or their charge rate would make the game better or worse

>>384826063
I've heard that paladins meta and balance is way better than ow? is this true and how?

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>poor balancing
>only two full maps in the first twelve months
>people realized comp is shit after they saw that blizzard dropping them hundreds of sr after placements was a deliberate design decision
>several of the new heroes have very little impact upon release
>match-to-match gameplay is extremely samey

For the causal players there also isn't a big reason to play outside of events. Blizzard is just slow as fuck in general whether it's five months between new maps or leaving a hero completely fucking bugged for several months like they did with Reinhardt.

>>384824584
>I´m good friend with the guy who made this
>he is a super nice guy, people like his stuff and he keeps getting popular each day

feels good man :-)

>game is inspired by TF2
>tf2 is a sequel to a mod
>game is also inspired by mobas
>mobas are successors to another mod
>game does not have modding tools

>>384826221
>going on reddit
no thanks, it's just facebook with people you don't know

>>384825189
No Pokemon GO died because in non all year nice weather places, shit get's cold.

No one wants to go out into a blizzard at night to grab a Pikachu.

>>384826063
this

>>384826427
PkGO is still pretty popular in cities, ie the places it was made for in the first place

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>>384824584
because blizzard is a fucking shitty company?

That lootcrate bullshit needs to stop.

Also, far too many characters to balance anything. It's being advertised as a competitive game when it's closer to a party game.

The game just feels repetitive to play. It's basically just a constant teamfight with no opportunity to fuck around by yourself like you could in tf2. Maps are also bad and samey and cooldowns fucking suck ass, only a retard would add so many in an action game.

>>384826427
Go died before that, due to updates people disliked and undesirable things happening at popular Pokestops

its tf2 but with no custom maps

>>384826313
any nerf to ults would improve the game in my opinion
>>384826346
from what i understand, there is no way it could be worse, so it's either on-par or better
>>384826081
without a doubt overwatch players are the most despicable on the planet. solo queue, if you get up to a high SR, is possibly the worst experience in gaming in terms of how these fucking loser behave. i haven't touched league or dota, but i can't imagine they have worse humans at the top, despite being f2p garbage

>>384826354
>only two full maps in the first year
Eichenwalde, oasis, and horizon is more than two

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>>384826389
muh new engine guys, just wait a few years for mod tools. But make sure you remember that we actually love mods and one of the most popular genres exists because of this so shut the fuck up and stop asking.

>>384826613
wow, 3 new maps in the first year
that's a lot better, right? a new map every 4 months, on average

>>384824584
It's just like anything else in the public eye. A fad. The next big thing or things come along and the old thing is forgotten. It's why sad little fan boys sit on this board and post a thread like "why is there no X game thread?! X game thread? X game thread"

>>384825434
is she ever gonna be useful

>>384826004
Ana was the tipping point. One of her regular abilities can completely shut down almost any ult at high range. She was followed by Sombra, who's specialty is shutting down ultimates. And Orisa, who can become immune to most ultimates.

The basic problem is that the game stopped being dynamic. It used to be a single ult could change everything. Now everything is too easily countered immediately. The meta went from "all tanks all the time" to "all flankers all the time" because Blizzard is too afraid to let characters remain high-risk/high-reward, remember when Zenyatta's orb of discord was a really powerful tool that could melt a tank? Now he's generic DPS and healing. Remember when ulting with Mercy was a dangerous move that required skill? Now you're just invincible. Remember when Hanzo and Widowmaker were genuinely terrifying enemies? Now they're worthless. Remember when Torb's turret was a threat? Now he's a walking armor dispenser.

Basically instead of being a fun game with multiple powerful strategies that were all viable, Blizzard's system of "everything must be weak and counterable" means that only one strategy becomes viable at a time and nothing feels really rewarding.

>>384826613
Only Eichenwalde and Oasis came out in the first 12 months.

>ironically, Overwatch popularity declines after introducing 2 niggers

pottery

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>>384825553
exactly, that's why we like them

>>384826626
>muh new engine
Is it truly a new engine and not Starcraft 2's? Because SC2 had mods which were in first person

>>384824584
Because it's not a good game. It works far to well to ever be one, much like Starcraft II.

>>384824584
because pharahs last skin was shit I mean just look at that hijab on her head

fucking disgusting

blueberry pharah still best

>>384826709
She is, play her more and watch high level play and read extensive guides.

eagle

>>384824584
Same reason SU is a dead cartoon. Content drought and pandering to gays.

>>384826173
Its true though. OW is the choice of the assman, but almost every girl in Paladins has 10/10 tits

>>384824584

I can only speak for myself but I stopped playing the game when they changed the meta so much as to make it unplayable for me. I'm a big fan of Bastion and Reinhardt, and they've made them unplayable to me. Bastion's Gatling gun is now useless at range. Bastion was never good up-close because it's barely got enough health to survive any real hits, and at mid-range and long range the spread barely hits even if you are dead on with the sights. Reinhardt wasn't nerfed, but other characters were buffed to the point to make him useless.

And of course they'll never nerf Genji or Hanzo, just buff them. Fuck their waifus.

>>384827045

Proof?

>>384826306
http://m.thegames.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=198631

It's only Korea but the game is now at its lowest share in PC bangs since it came out. I know the coach of the best Korean team also talked about how Blizzard is fucking up their chance with Overwatch and it could just become another HotS.

Old school Blizzard fan here. Got off the meme wagon after World of Warcraft launched. Stopped playing after a month. Thinking about checking out their newer shit.

I played the Diablo 3 trial thing, seems alright, lot less options than Diablo 2 but seems fun to play. Always heard this game was shit though? Should I get it?

I played the first Overwatch beta and it ran like dogshit on my PC for some reason (but I could do Crysis 3 pretty well on this PC and i've since put in a 1060 and a i5-6600k). But all that it seemed to have was capture the point stuff. Did they ever add more game modes?

>>384826717
just as a side note, there is something especially rotten about cc abilities in a first-person shooter. there is something uniquely unpleasant about being sleep darted, frozen, locked out of your abilities, hooked slowed, stunned, rooted, flashbanged whatever in a first person shooter.

they started loading the game up with this shit. i might have autism for this but im super sensitive to how bad it feels to be cc'd in a fps game. i don't know. that's one thing that turned me off just as much as how boring the "go to chokepoint, ult with team" gameplay became.

>>384826717
This

also whats the deal with barriers?
we get more barriers and they buff existing barriers instead of coming up with new ideas
kills all the fun tbqh

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>>384826063
>Paladins has the better waifus
THIS
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>>384826243
And THIS

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>>384826717
>Blizzard's system of "everything must be weak and counterable"
You know, this is the same reason Starcraft 2 failed to maintain a scene.

They nerfed everything until it just felt like a battle of attrition. Nothing seemed powerful or useful or fun.

Starcraft 1 on the other hand... everything was overpowered. It's great.

They also never let the meta playout by itself. Back in the day, updates were far less frequent. Players would find something overpowered, abuse the fuck out of it, but eventually people would find a natural counter to it. It took time, a lot of fucking around, but it would balance itself out in the end.

Now if something is deemed OP the community will throw a massive hissy fit and the thing get's nerfed instantly.

It's amazing how new blizzard keeps making the same mistakes time and time again. They never learn.

What's worse, the community never fucking learns. They have too much faith in a company that is shell of it's former self.

You hate it just because it's a western game.

>>384824584
A game needs to have depth to keep it being alive. Especially a MP only game.

OW has nothing like that. Not like say CS which has depth from the community making up the meta based on the tools given to them or a game like PUBG which has depth in the purest gameplay form. OW is just a game that panders to the lowest common denominator, people who don't invest time in video games but still want to play something competitive. But it's still too hard for those people. Having to learn every hero is just too much for the average OW player. If you want to make a game for that audience you'd have to either make some extreme casual non competitive facebook/mobile game or go the route of say Rocket League with it's supremely easy to learn but extremely hard to master viewpoint.

TLDR: Game is too hard for its own audience but way too easy for people who enjoy competitive video games.

>>384826870
The team says it's a new one they built just for Overwatch.

>>384824584
the way it's balanced means that there are only 10 viable characters that can fit on a team of 6, out of about 25~ characters available

shit gets boring seeing tracer/genji/winston/d.va/zen/lucio every single game on both sides of the awful maps

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>>384824584
>Overwatch losing it's popularity
Rigggghhhhhttt

>>384827198
OW has 3 gamemodes.

KOTH
2POINT
PAYLOAD

It tried to add CTF, but /v/edditors whined so much they scrapped it.

>>384826306

>All the big name streamers barely touch it now
>On twitch itself it's not in the top row anymore
>Only like 2 of my friends play it now

Lore has gone to shit.

Yes this matters to me. It made me CARE about playing the game not just to SHOOOOOOOT GUN

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>>384824584
>overwatch
>losing it's popularity

>>384825018
Bucktooth faggot.

>Play TF2 to death for 5 years
>grow kind of bored with it, want to move on and experience different games
>look for various games to fill the hole TF2 left behind, like Dota, Street Fighter, even Pokemon. Anything that I can sink a large amount of time in
>Nothing sticks with me, wind up just playing fucking Space Station 13
>2 years pass
>Overwatch gets released, buy it day 1 and play it a lot with friends
>After season 3 I start playing less and less, game just stops feeling refreshing and the way it seems to nag at you to play with the rating system and lootboxes just doesn't feel good to me.
>Haven't even booted the game since S4 ended
>Reinstall TF2 again last week
>pubstomping with Engineer and Demoman is the most fun I've had with video games in years
I'm not sure if this is like a battered housewife returning to her abusive husband, after having tried dating other men. Or if this is like when you leave a girl, trying out younger and better looking girls, that while they look like your previous girl, they're not getting old and lazy. Only for you to eventually get back together with your old girl, and while she's not as pretty as she used to be and is now filled with ugly cosmetic items, she's still the best thing that happened to you and all the memories together serve as a testament to that.
The Overwatch community is also fucking cancer, it's like the worst parts of the TF2 community, combined with the League of Legends community. At least the Mei and Pharah SFM porn still gets me off.

>>384827409

CTF with these map designers would be an absolute shitfest. You'd only ever see Tracer, Genji and D.Va.

I wanna fuck Pharah

>>384826717
Forgot to mention: Blizzard's core design philosophy with this game is flawed.

TF2 has gone to shit, but it's success was built on response to the community. It went from being a basic team-based shooter to a hat simulator to something that's closer to an action RPG than anything else. And as much as we like to shit on what it's become and talk about the good ol' days, there are still plenty of people who love what it is now, because they made it what it is now. The developers changed the game to fit fan desires.

Blizzard forces fans to play the way they want the game to be played. Just look at Arcade mode. Those were originally weekly brawls, and they were mostly shit. Nobody really played them much. QP and comp are the main game modes. But then Blizzard shuffled out the new Arcade mode, which gives you weekly boxes as rewards for playing it.

They literally started bribing players to play these shit rearranged versions of the game. Keep in mind not even comp gives you boxes, all you get for comp are shitty icons and golden weapons, both of which require you to be pretty good and play a TON of comp. Comp remains broken since it's impossible to solo queue, and leavers are an epidemic at every level of play, with no replacements a leaver straight-up RUINS a match, the losing team gets penalized unfairly, the winning team gets fewer points for their win.

And to make things worse, the changes to comp stopped resetting ranking completely between seasons, so if you're at a low tier you're stuck there for good, no fresh starts for you.

Meanwhile they keep on adding shit to arcade mode. Comp is broken and full of try-hards. QP is full of people who don't even try to win half the time, they just die repeatedly with Hanzo/Genji and never switch or make a real effort because hey, it's just QP. Arcade mode is shit. 3v3 1v1 and mystery heroes, the main modes, are more luck-based than skill-based.

I don't play this game but wasn't Blizzard making an Overwatch League with player salaries and shit?

>>384827176
Scroll down to the hero descriptions and check for yourself:
https://www.paladins.com/

>>384826954
>not liking halal Pharah
>being ass blasted over one single skin you don't like

>>384824584
Because Blizzard never realized that shooters have a shelf-life unless you do one of two things:

1) You have semi-regular content and balancing update patches, usually once every month or two
2) You can play independently made maps, have a mod community, and just in general also have cool custom game modes

Blizzard have been meeting the bare minimum for the criteria. When they release a patch, it's usually a lackluster map with maybe some skins, or a lackluster hero with some skins. Even Doomfist, their biggest hyped hero, fell kinda flat because they played him straight and made him into a rather boring, serious character despite having the name Doomfist. The Sombra ARG was all for nothing since nobody figured it out coupled with the fact that some random nobody leaked her during a private conference, only to turn out to be the most useless hero in the game. The latest moon map is also a disaster and somehow ended up being the worst map that nobody wants to see because it's just one long hallway with no interesting flanking routes. Meanwhile, they have yet to make the other stock maps the game came with any better, like Volskaya and Hanamura, which I can't think of a single soul that likes playing those maps for any length of time. No constructive changes or anything to make it less of a chore in the end.

If it wasn't for the charming aesthetic and good character designs keeping the game afloat in between the patches, Overwatch would have been dead by now.

I've beat my dick to Mercy, Widow and D.Va countless times.

It's great.

>>384826063
and it has P2W cards of the hero shooters its the bottom of barrel for that alone

>>384827198
Yes

There is now king of the hill, payload and hybrid maps along with attack/defend for both comp and casual

The arcade is where the fun is; new custom gamemodes that give loot after 3 wins that rotate each patch or so. Also includes a server browser that people have made gamemodes up

Competitive capture the flag is rumored to be one the way whole you can still play it in arcade

>>384824584

>that pic

assassins creed origins: the telltale series

>>384827649
>But then Blizzard shuffled out the new Arcade mode, which gives you weekly boxes as rewards for playing it.

What's funny about this is, you only get boxes for winning, so what was supposed to be the relaxed dick around area is now just as tryhard as anywhere else.

They also make ZERO effort to make the server browser known, so any kind of custom game running is hidden away.

>want to play as doomfist
>can only play elimination or have to try and instapick in ptr
>even custom games is full of elimination and little to no listings for no hero limits

>>384827639
The way it was set up is Winston was usually the best pick for flag carrier.

That being said, same could be said for TF2, whose only viable FCs were Scout and occasionally Soldier. Maybe Demoman, but eh...I digress.

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>>384827648
Same

>>384825727
This is kind of true. Like the whole "zero G" area on the new lunar horizon map or whatever. I have never gone out there and I have never seen anyone else do it either because there's literally no reason to.

Battlegrounds. Can leave games at will and no one gives a fuck about being skilled at the game

>>384824584
Too many choke points
Not enough room to move around
Same 4 maps and game modes
Too much is based on abilities and cool downs rather than straight skill
Any ability that grants invulnerability but allows you to capture/contest a point regardless
The randomness of the match maker
Scatter arrow
Boring meta
Lacking in a feeling of self accomplishment.
Too many tracer skins and not enough skins for the others.

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>>384824584
It's a bad game?

>>384827690
Yeah, you can even get a spot for a cool $20million. Maybe launching by the end of this year.

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Because the recent blizzard heroes are more waifus. They put a bunch of dumb ugly niggers in the game and nobody wanted that.

>>384824584
Blizzard fell for the Riot balancing style. Instead of going for good allround balance they decide which characters should be shelved for a while while buffing characters they want to have the spotlight. Then after a while nerf those to bring in some fresh characters rince and repeat. Also the no fun allowed approach because they're control freaks.

>>384827710
J-jesus christ

This is a fucking titty mans game. This is MY game. Where the fuck's the SFM, holy shit.

>>384827649
(2/2)

So people are basically forced into arcade mode because Blizzard doesn't care about QP or comp at all. Those modes are cancer. Arcade mode is cancer too, but hey at least you walk away with a few extra shiny new boxes after a day of playing.

Blizzard loved Arcade Mode so much they decided to make everyone love it, instead of making improvements to QP and comp, they split up the playerbase even further.

AW FUCK I JUST REMEMBERED THE GROUP SYSTEM

It's just about impossible to get a good game in QP unless you have five friends, and their adjustment to groups made this worse. Basically, after a QP match you choose whether to form a group with your team. People who opt-in form a group automatically.

So basically, if you luck out and get good teammates, you can stick with those teammates. If you win a match, everyone stays as a group, and that group stomps the rest of the disorganized QP playerbase. It's supposed to help organization and teamwork, but people only hit the button if they win. So all it does is ensure matches are even more unbalanced since one team is made up of people on a winning streak and the other team is a bunch of randoms, mostly leavers.

That was the change that made QP completely intolerable and drove me away from the game. I might go back to check out Doomfist or something but I've got better shit to play right now.

>Nerfing Road which was something the community was incredibly split on

>Not touching 2cp because they think it's totally okay even though most of the community in all skill ranges dislike it

It's stuff like this I think. The Roadhog nerf should have been more closely debated and 2cp changes should have happened awhile ago.

>>384827860

Gotta admit I'm curious to play it I certainly like the artstyle and pace of the game from what I've seen but I've just fallen for so many paperweights these last few years.

Games been out a year, would I be at a disadvantage? Are their noob rooms to get my bearings? Will I get banned for not following the developer approved meta?

>>384828143
Riots style is fucking shit, but they got by on the fact that the game has a hundred odd characters.

Overwatch doesn't even have 30 so when 2/3rds of those aren't usable, shit gets boring fast

>>384824584

>>losing its popularity as a game.
>>gaining its popularity among gluteophiles.

>>384824584
Because comp is what everyone wants to play, but the people playing comp are becoming so toxic that it's turning people away.

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>>384824584

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>>384824584
I personally got burnt out on it. There's only so much enjoyment you can wring out of the game when it's so narrow in scope (competitive 6v6 only with roughly 15 minute game times). I achieved my goal in comp, and I found all the skins I wanted. It's not like TF2 where you could just log onto your favorite server and shoot the shit. You gotta do the organized, comms-heavy comp shit which takes a lot out of you.

Thing is I kinda want to get back in since the new character looks fun, but I don't have any friends on battlenet. It seems pointless.

>>384826221
>Everyone has been on Reddit

Ok, kid.

>>384826717
The roadhog nerf was a strong illustration of their design philosophy. He was dangerous because if you were good with the hook you could grab people and blast them in the face.

This "one shotting" was too much I guess so they raised fire rate and lowered damage. Now he's shit because his signature ability is gone and he's almost totally disappeared from matches. There was always a roadhog in every match before the nerf.

Why would they do that? Whyyyy

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>>384828184
The problem is Jeff loves 2cp and even though they know how to fix things they won't do it. But they will release another 2cp map because everyone will love that. Funny thing about the Roadhog nerf is Jeff straight up said they didn't think it was a nerf when they were doing it but then said they might have gone overboard and need to buff him now.

>>384824584
Obviously because there are no new white character, weird no one has mentioned this yet.

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They need to release a new waifu to save it.
She should be:
>A Talon member
>A Healer
>possibly Greek since Ilios has no character tied to it.
>Thicc in the right places.

>>384824584
Blizzard are embracing social justice more and more, with their characters and with how hard they moderate chat.

Paladins is the opposite, adding more and more titty monsters and letting players have some banter.

Also Battlegrounds is very popular.

Also Blizzard take the piss with adding almost no content.

>>384828306
The fuck even is this game? """Gamers""" i know won't shut up about it. Where did it come from?

>>384826243
When did Paladins get an animated short?

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>>384827986
God I love hot brown women(not black)

>>384827303
why has soldier not been nerfed yet

>>384824584
low skill ceiling
lacks depth

>>384827303

>Now if something is deemed OP the community will throw a massive hissy fit and the thing get's nerfed instantly.

Basically Roadhog nerf in a nutshell.

I think League of Legends popularized this type of pandering to be honest.

>>384828534

literally where have you been?

>>384828150
Currently there is very little in terms of SFM. It needs more popularity to take off.

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>>384828014

>Too many choke points
I agree, but that's what makes the game fun. The teams fight over that choke point and are all in that point rather than spread out over the whole map.

>Not enough room to move around
Elaborate.

>Same 4 maps and game modes
Actschully, i'll have u know that tere's like 5 maps

>Too much is based on abilities and cool downs rather than straight skill
So high tier Widowmaker players rely on their cooldowns rather than skill on getting those sweet headshots?

>Any ability that grants invulnerability but allows you to capture/contest a point regardless
So, none of the abilities?

>The randomness of the match maker
Not if you play with your friends

>Scatter arrow
Yeah, sometimes.

>Boring meta
I get what it's going for though, the basic healer, hitscan dps and a tank to take damage. Can't go wrong.

>Lacking in a feeling of self accomplishment.
I see you've never gotten a POTG then.

>Too many tracer skins and not enough skins for the others.
I agree, there should be a sexy naked Winston skin but that's not out yet.

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>>384825534
>>384825727
>>384827995
I never see anyone bring this up as a point against Overwatch but it's really fucking bad. So many times I go off in a sideroom or in a hallway that isn't the main chokepoint looking for a shortcut or flanking position, and it just leads me back to some retarded spot that no one would ever want to go to, or in some cases even fucking dead ends. For WHAT purpose? Who the fuck designs a video game map that way? And it's still a problem in the newest maps too so they aren't learning from their mistakes

>>384824584
It sucks dick

>>384828225
While you won't really be at a disadvantage since you can test heroes in the practice range, I will give me two cents about 'meta'

Some people will shit on you if you instalock dps, some won't. Some will shit on you for choosing your favorite character, some won't. People say locking in to a hero works best but I've found that flexible playstyles work best if you are not playing with a friend group that can plan out a strategy.

In my opinion of you pick a hero that isn't really as good as another one, then you best be damn good. I've been with players who are absolute trash and are godlike with off-meta heroes.

>>384825018

Hi Randy.

>>384828143
In Riot's defense, it's generally acceptable seeing as their roster of characters is ludicrously large compared to Blizzard's, where balance is more key. And the sad thing is, the amount of offensively bad picks in League is about the same as Overwatch, despite having four times more characters to choose from.

>>384828534
It's a less stressful (and fun) version of DayZ.

I say this because collecting gear in Dayz can take hours if not days(huehuehue). Only to end in an extremely tense battle of cat and mouse.

if only it weren't for the fucking hackers.

I guarantee this Battlegrounds shit is lousy with em. It's the only thing preventing me from playing it. It's what made me stop playing DayZ.

>>384824584
they should have focused on more maps and not more sjw chars.

>>384828534
it's the a twitch meme game that isn't unique and everyone will drop after a while

>>384828559
And lose the COD audience?

>>384824584
Bears

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>>384828550
They're pretty delicious

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>>384825214
Buttblasted blizzdrone can't even argue against this

>>384824584
Pandering to liberals, no white heroes and obviously because the game lacks depth

>>384828709
Aren't there usually health drops in the dead ends? I don't like their map design, but I understand the risk reward choice of it.

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>>384828496
>and letting players have some banter.

THIS. Fucking THIS.

This is HUGE, there's no fucking personality in this game. Heroes say ONE uninspired thing to each other and nothing else. On top of that it's so goddamn fucking PG it stifles me. TF2 had godlike banter with memorable quotes we've all known for almost a decade. Quotes that are still funny. Any funny banter in OW? I can't think of any.

>Tracer: Nice glasses Winston
>Winston: Thanks

W.O.W!!!

>>384828480
Jeff is a fucking hack and I don't understand why anyone puts him on a pedestal. The dude was a talentless windbag who raged all the time a decade ago, and now he's suddenly this "cool" and "charming" developer who has all the charisma of a burning paper bag?

Annual events are gonna suck the second time around. Oh boy, I get to play Lucioball all over again! And maybe they'll throw in some new skins!

>>384824584
HUBBA HUBBA
*steam blows out of ears*
*steam whistle sound*
HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA
*heart beats out of chest*
AWOOOGA
*falls over holding a flower, eyes have black Xs through them, tombstone that says RIP appears over my head

>>384824584
I haven't played it in a long while, even with friends. None of my friends want to play because Blizzard is never adding new things.

>>384828798
If League really only has around 5 offensively terrible picks than I will be truely shocked. A fucking miracle of balancing must have happened in the last year or so since I stopped playing for that to be the case.

>>384824584
blizzard just takes 3 months to update the game while other games get updated every 2 weeks.
I mean I understand they want "balance" and "quality" but it's blizzard so....

>>384827224
In the base game this was fine. Getting flashbanged or hooked only lasted a split second. And Roadhog/McCree/Genji relied on those abilities, so it felt fair.

Ana was when everything went to shit. Getting tranqed is the fucking worst. And her healing made Roadhog way more powerful so surprise: hooks everywhere as well.

>>384827254
Because DPS heroes used to be king. Now because of barriers, flankers are king. That's the core problem with Blizzard's design philosophy, they made the characters too samey.

It used to be that if a certain character is kicking your ass, you switched to something totally different and kicked their ass. Now you have to out-Genji their Genji, or out-Roadhog their Roadhog, or out-Mercy their Mercy.

When you take away anything that's high-risk/high-reward, you're left with characters that are all the same, and that means that one playstyle will be superior to all others. Blizzard fixed the tank meta by introducing a flanker meta. They think they're making progress when they're just stepping over the same basic problem.

>>384827303
Ana. Fucking Ana was cried for being underpowered before anyone knew how to even fucking play her correctly. So they buffed her, and that fucked the balance of the game so much. Ana's specialty is ranged healing, and they made her basically as good as Mercy, but with range and a sleepdart. So Ana's existence made Roadhog too powerful, which led to Roadhog getting nerfed into the ground, and flankers couldn't do anything so they got buffed, which led to the new meta, and yada yada yada.

They drop in new characters and don't wait to see what effect they have. I was screaming that D.Va was overpowered BEFORE she got her health buffed to 600, they didn't listen and buffed her again before enough people got the chance to really play her and realize how strong she was. (God I miss the days of godlike D.Va, that was the only time I've gotten good with a character before they became OP.)

>>384828908
I want to breed with pharah and make 6 mixed babies!

>Nerf Winston
>Nerf everyone else
>Everyone else now sucks so bad Winston comes back to being god like
Repeat soon?

>>384828657
>>Too much is based on abilities and cool downs rather than straight skill
>So high tier Widowmaker players rely on their cooldowns rather than skill on getting those sweet headshots?

Your defense is one out of 20 something heroes?

How to fix game.

-Add 3rd Person gamemode
-Nerf barriers/shields to hamper turtling
>change symm beam to break faster when she loses LOS, tick-based damage is shit
-Add breakable barriers in 2CP maps and/or stealth routes
-Add shit like gloves, boots, hats for cosmetic value, so you have a chance of getting a decent looking set of stilettos or something instead of a duplicate fucking player icon
-Add more vantage points
-Give the heroes wih no mobility mobility, there's no reason Ana and Zen should be so slow and have no get away
-New Roadhog Passive :: When Pigs Fly : Holding space lets him charge a jump, letting go launches him into the air. When he lands, he knocks backs enemies in a circle around him and gains armor.

Played for like a week then stopped, out of curiosity, are Lucio, Soldier and Reinhart still overpowered in the "Either play or lose them" Sense or did that eventually change?

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>>384828916
>because the game lacks depth
Could have just ended it right there and it would still be true. Just think about the game. There's no meta. There's nothing fun about the mechanics. In tf2 you had rocketjump and all those silly community maps. In CS you have bunny hopping and surfing maps. There's just not community for Overwatch. The base game is what you get and that's it.

>>384827224
I've always said that you should never have control altered or removed from you in an FPS but I also play too may fast paced shooters to enjoy this twitch tier game.

>>384824584
I honestly think Zen's old balance was the only truly great one they did. The one that give him 50 more health.

Also mei is bae and needs to be better

>>384829119
>only 6
disgusting

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>>384828798
I don't understand this type of balancing

It seems like it would take a lot of resources to constantly evaluate and 'fix' champions/heroes/characters

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>>384826063
it doesnt
10/10 wouldnt switch to beta-tier waifus

>>384829240
>no meta

Divecomp :^)

>>384829215
Lucio and Soldier are still very strong. Nearly everything about Reinhardt has been bugged to fuck for the last two months so you rarely see him and people prefer Winston/D.Va as the two tanks.

>>384827884
That doesn't matter because Arcade Modes are coinflips.

3v3: did you happen to pick a team that counters your enemy? WIN
1v1: did you happen to draw heroes that you main and your opponent doesn't? WIN
Mystery Mode: did you happen to draw a well-balanced team while your opponent gets four Torbs? WIN

It's almost entirely luck. Granted they actually did a decent job in fixing this a while ago, but that's the fucking problem, why the fuck is it that ARCADE MODE gets the fucking perfect solutions to all the problems with the game? Why the fuck does arcade mode get more maps than regular play? Why are they letting QP and comp become complete shitholes?

>>384828823
>not more sjw chars.

Where is this? The game's about heroes from all over the world, features [woah] heroes from all over the world.

The closest thing we have to SJW is Zarya and she's a racist or someshit.

>>384825534
The entire game is "what if we took Dustbowl and based every fucking map off of it"

>>384829215
The meta is now rush in as fast as possible and kill everything.
So Rein has dropped off quite a bit, but Soldier and Lucio are as used as ever.

>>384829023
This is my biggest gripe about Overwatch. I've had people tell me that the characters are rich, in-depth, and have no equal whatsoever in any other shooter by their dialogue alone with a straight face. All I had to do was bring up a TF2 quote page for a random class from a wiki and they didn't even know how to respond. Not to mention, I have no idea why people care about the Overwatch voice actors so much when they barely do any lines to begin with, it's this barely transparent PR move where Blizzard hires a bunch of useless shits to occasionally say funny things so they can sell it for 25 in-game credits.

>>384829359
Tracer is gay, Reaper is a Spanish homosexual, Hanzo takes it up the ass, Africa is a world power, etc.

>>384828801
Well I've never played DayZ. And I'm weary of early access.

I guess PublicGoyim is still in early access hopefully it leaves someday.

>>384829304
>t. Mohammed al-Harabi Rasheed

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>>384829359
Zarya is the most fun tank to play as

Fuck the omniggers

Still playing and easy to find games , just hard to have people work as a team , it's fun but don't play as much as I used , I still play a few rounds a day if I can

>>384825393
that is actually pretty good

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>>384829023
>literally 90% of all character interaction happens in the spawn room
>half the time characters do say a line to one another, the other player is too far away and you can't even hear the character's reply

>>384828657
>So, none of the abilities?
Reaper. Mei. And if you wanna get real about it, D.Va and Genji can become practically invincible unless you've got a Winston or Symmetra.

>>384829281
If I have a high enough salary I'd make way more! Seriously though she's hot as fuck and gave me egyptian fever, shame they're muslim

One hero a year and a map or two. The game was intended to have a pretty big roaster with lots of modes. Keep in mind these idiots can't even implement CTF properly.

>>384829359
SJWs are racist

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>>384824584
Because Talon doesn't have a support member.

They listen to the community too much. roadhog may have been annoying but he's borderline unplayable now. And he was the only non shield using tank. So now every game is just shields and shields and more shields. And that's just one example.

>>384827995
Wait, you could go out there?

>>384829341

Except it does matter. It turns a mode where you can just queue and fuck around into yet another segment people are going to try their ass off.

If both winner and loser got lootboxes, then yeah you want to win but you don't really try, you just fuck around. The way it is now, it's barely any different than quickplay.

>>384829023
>you're my inspiration!
>no, you're the real hero!

>can I have your autograph?
>as long as I can have yours!

Best part is the Overwatch heroes have better lines in a different fucking game than they do in Overwatch.

>>384829291
They've actually be retooling and remaking a lot of the champions that were generally boring or not fun to play as, so Riot at least tries. I don't picture Blizzard ever retooling any of their current heroes until they're hemorrhaging players.

>>384829663
>yet

>>384829359
the sjw meme is retarded, there's plenty to hate OW for but that's not it.

>there's a woman with pink hair, it's an sjw game!!!
>she's actually an ultra-nationalist social conservative

>they removed Tracer's pose they're catering to sjws!!!!!
>they replaced it with an even sexier pose

>they're making characters gay now REEEE!!!
>the only gay is the character that looks the most like a lesbian and is shipped with only other women

I could go on, but suffice it to say the screaming fuckwits who say the game is sjw don't know shit and have been wrong every single goddamn time.

>>384829482
>tracer is homosex
The porn is much better because of it
>Reaper is homosex
Cancer fan concept
>Hanzo is homosex
Cancer fan concept
>Africa a world power
Egypt is still a pretty shitty place boy I wonder why

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>>384829570
>same 2 lines every match
>always 2 chars talking
>NO FUCKING BANTER

0/10

also, this might not be the reason it's losing players but Paladins is a better game imo

>>384829637
They have actual stupidly low numbers of heroes and maps. Why feel the need to lie about the numbers to make them look even lower?

>>384829023

If Sombra were in TF2, she'd make fun of Scout for having porn on his laptop or something.

>>384828709
>dead ends
Motherfuckers thought Symmetra was going to be on every defense team, and she'd need 38 different places to hide her teleporter..

>>384829716
And skins. Jesus Christ, OW devs can't do anything right.

>>384829243
yes, my aversion to it is probably because i came up on quake, but i still think i'd just find it super unpleasant. getting flashbanged in siege or cod isn't that bad because you don't lose control. if you're aware of your surroundings usually there's a response to it. 90% of the time if i eat a flashbang i can back up, turn a corner, and be exactly where i expect to be once the effect wears off. i still hate it, but whatever - i can respond. losing the ability to control your character just sets me off. im thinking now about how it feels to be slowed before mei would freeze you. it doesn't get more unpleasant than that for me.
for what it's worth, i played a lot of arena in wow back in the day and cc really didn't bother me nearly as much. it's something about the first-person perspective.

>>384828692
>>384828950
it's called latency

dont know if you know this, but where bullets/projectiles exit from your screen and your model are different, that's just latency correcting on your screen, as your client side predicted something else, and the server said no, this is what happened

Shitty metas
Tryhards and whiny babies
1 Dimensional characters
They come out with like 1 new map and 1 near hero in the same amount of time WoW gets 3 patches and HoTS gets a shitton of new skins and at least 3 new heroes.

>>384829630
Why not get a Coptic wife and force her to dress like Pharah for you?

>>384829023
>>384829570
>>384829408

What they can do is put some sort of like, small dialogue box that lets the player hear what other characters reactions are to, say, a team kill, killsteal, clutch heal, etc. whenever your character does those things. Sort of like Memelands did it's thing with Handsome Jack.


I mean fuck, they did that kinda thing in Uprising, didn't they?

It even makes sense, since ICly, everyone would be wear comm gear.

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>>384824584
Shit balance, ignoring underpowered but popular characters, and not releasing Athena.

Only shitters care about Doomfist.

>>384827195
>HotS.
Pre 2.0?

>>384829716
I completely forgot about how better the OW characters are treated in HotS. You'd expect Blizzard to give more of a shit about their first legitimate new cash cow in years, but they're still incompetent as ever.

>>384829906

Genji is alright in both games skin wise, but Zarya has god tier skins in hots

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>>384828550
>not liking black girls

>>384829304
>leaving out Seris on purpose

>>384830016
They even make fun of Kerrigan becoming Xel'Naga

>>384824584
Lack of content, all 2 CP maps SUCK and feel the same, payload/half payload cp is eh, koth is the only map type that is OK.
The maps and teams are to small so specialist characters are never worth picking
I feel like these are the main problems, in tf2, 12v12 lets you play and pick what ever class you want and there is probably some portion of the map where that class is usefull/worth picking.
TF2 also has generalist classes: Scout, Soldier, Demo and Medic. That are good in any situation. And specialist (the rest) that are ok in some situations but are god their in specifiek situations that come up often enough.
In small team size makes specialists never worth picking because the situations that they are good in dont make up for being useless in other scenarios. Symmetra and Sombra could be good on large maps, Tobjorn could be good with a larger team to help him build if there is a panic.

>>384829673

Road was also anti dive.

McCree is getting buffed but it's probably not enough to stop dive.

if Road was still alive he could have formed some sort of ANTI FLANK FORCE with McCree. The meta might have been able to shift slightly.

>>384825453
buy them with shards then you fucking nigger

>>384830016
>>384830098

I was looking at HOTs voice lines, and that game has some funny ass lines.

Overwatch blew up mainly because of the waifus.

They haven't capitalized on that at all, Paladins did.

>>384830053
But who is cum??

>>384829023
It's not just that they won't banter, they refuse to put in anything mean-spirited at all.

I mean I get that's what they're going for. They want to be the "inclusive" fps, and that's commendable in a way. But it all ends up feeling so toothless as a result. Every character seems like a robot, but not in the literal sense. They just don't act quite Human enough. Listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX__swbUwag and try to imagine any of the OW cast saying anything like that.

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>>384830053

After playing OW then going back to TF2, I actually forgot how threatening Sentries could actually be.

Torb's is a damn joke

>>384830206
How did Paladins capitalise on it?

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>>384830014
Yeah, here's his comments. People can rightfully shit on e-sports but this is the coach of the best team in the world talking about how Blizzard is fucking themselves as far as Koreans are concerned.

>>384825281
Mei got trashcanned when they nerfed both her ult and her ult gen. She is annoying at holding a point but doesn't have enough staying power plinking with right click

>>384830231
>>>/pol/

>>384824584
Even normies are finally seeing what a pile of shit the game is

>>384830231
I meant 2D.
>>384830213
Orisa, duh. Why else would a girl invent a horse robot if not for sex?
>>384830279
Torb would be cancer if he was as powerful with turrets as Engi.

Torb really shines by having a much better main weapon than Engi, who is always shafted in TF2, shotgun wise.

>>384830228

Yeah exactly, that's what I meant by PG dude. All this care bear huggy time shit, like these are all adults. McCree looks like someone that'd be one snarky ass fucker, and Reaper should be SPEWING hatred.

But nope.

>>384829023
Overwatch
>Can I get your autograph?

TF2
>Here's what I have that you don't: a functioning liver, depth perception and a pulse!

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>>384830340
>/pol/ boogeyman
This place might be too triggering for a snowflake like you. I'd recommend reddit or neogaf.

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>>384830284
No idea, Paladins isn't pumping out waifus. It's just a free, and increasingly different game.

>>384830431
I'm going to gut you
Like a Cornish Game hen

>>384824584
The gameplay is asstastic compared to TF2, and normies all moved on to PUBG.

>>384830431

OW
>Who are you calling a child?

TF2
>Here's a schematic for ya, my ass!

>>384830512
Nah, he's right. Muh niggers has no place in this thread at all. It has no relevance to anything here at all.

>>384830431
OW has some pretty good lines sometimes.

>YOU SHOULD THE CLASSICS< LIKE HASSELHOFF

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>>384824584
>still relevant

>>384830340
I have bad news for you if you think only /pol/tards dislike black people.

>>384829802
Banter between characters is always great. I miss with grenades in Vermintide just to hear one of the other character talk smack about my character being drunk or blind.

>>384830431
>>384830587
>>384830610
What's even better is that TF2's banter really outlines the characters speaking, and who they are talking to.

>>384830315

Do you have the link to this? I'd like to read his full interview.

>>384828474
>there was always a roadhog in every match before the nerf
maybe the was the problem, dumbass? that he was so strong he was always picked?

>>384826709
>throw down tele in safe spot
>invis sprint behind team
>hack and kill healers and snipers
>???
>profit

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>>384824941
I'm honestly surprised it's still popular. I don't see how this game could hold up for so long, it feels so samey every game.

>>384829304
Idk bro, I peep a couple of cuties in that bunch

Blizzard is way too slow at releasing content updates, outside of skins, and has a real shit game plan for balancing the game for FUN. The game just isn't fucking fun.
Over a year now, 4 new characters. Like 4? maps for competitive mode, the rest were for arcade. No new competitive game modes, only shit for arcade.

>>384830512
like, I get the snowflake thing, sure, whatever. But why pretend like you dont go to /pol/? or reddit for that matter? Like whats the point in lying about something like that?

At least try to defend your shitty board, or just tell me to fuck off or call me a faggot or something, but dont just straight up pretend like you dont visit what Im pretty sure is the most popular board on the site. A board that almost exclusively caters to people who hate blacks. Its such a weird thing to lie about.

>>384830416
The shotgun in TF2 is really good, it can kill all 125 classes in 2 shots. Hell, it can even kill 175 health classes in two shots if they are point blank.

OW
>How I trust machine man?

TF2
>I..am..OWNING you, you fat, bald bastard!

>>384830647
>tfw they call you out for being a bunny hopping retard

>>384830638
It actually is

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>>384830663
>those 8 or 10 voicelines where Soldier calls Sniper some variation of Bilbo Baggins after dominating him

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>>384830675
https://pastebin.com/sWkJXsTv

It's a good read from someone really involved with the game and is up front about the issues they see.

>>384830707

Or maybe in a meta where he counters flankers and winston + does reliable damage to D.Va means he just MIGHT be picked because he helped counter this meta?

Your type who whined instead of learned how to play are the reason why the game could die.

>>384830968
>OW, will never EVER have blapkle babkins

>>384826597
you would be surprised how much worse league can get, but honestly both games are pretty high on the shit community meter

>>384825553
Yeah that's kinda hot

>>384830823
Yeah, true. But you still have to get up close, while avoiding spies, Pyros, soldiers and every other class.

Torb's other gun function lets him keep his distance better than Engi's pistol.

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The entire game design is made to keep players addicted and hooked

>bright beautiful cartoony but detailed graphics
>puns and memey voicelines to give more depth to characters
>games are short and sweet, always leaving you wanting more, and therefore keeps you in the quickplay lobby for hours
>maps are randomized so you never get to choose what you play on, if you want a specific map you'll have to play 5 games or so to eventually get it
>pointless upvote system just made for ego-boosting

If it is losing popularity its either because no event or the sheer amount of heroes and game changing updates. look at tf2, no one gives a shit who you pick since theirs like 8 classes, in OW you have people shitting on you if you pick a sector of heroes they dont agree is 'meta'.

And ranked, I could do a whole essay on why video game ranking systems are totally flawed from their core. Not just for Overwatch but for any team based game with a ranking sysrtem like Dota or CSGO.

>>384831012

Thank you

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>>384826717
Are you dumb? This game is VERY DEPENDANT ON ULTIMATE.
Ulting with Mercy was never skillful. You clearly didn't played during that time to say that Zenyatta Orb of Discord was perfectly fine, and you clearly don't read the patch to know that his damage has been upped with the OOD nerf so he still deal the same damage with OOD that he used to do, and he has more damage without OOD without it. Win win. More fair for the enemy so they have a chance, like roadhog, and better for the zen himself who can now defend himself better.

Hanzo and Widowmaker were the worst and that's how i know you're a dumbass that should kill yourself. Not having to wait until the whole animation of unscoping/scoping was horrible, it was too easy for a widowmaker to get away as she saw her enemy coming in no time because of this. Her damage WERE ABSOLUTELY BONKERS BACK THEN, and to finish, hanzo arrow hitbox was 50% bigger back then which means he was OP.
And they're still genuinely terrifying enemy. If you know how to play them. Hanzo in particulars.

And torbjorn was never a threat to begins with. He used to be able to upgrade his turret to level 3 like the engineer in TF2 and had a "scrap" resource working exactly like metal, and he was worse than he is today. You should kill yourself, you simply don't understand what is going on with the game, you simply don't have any knowledge of its past to talk like that, and you clearly don't know why exactly those heroe are not picked that much.

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>>384830881
you are cherry picking a bit there, pick out the lines that are actually said in Overwatch when you score a kill

>NEVER trust an omnic.
>Aaand stay down!
>Sleep!
>(scoffs) Americans...
>Justice is defined by the hand that claims it.
>-Beeping that resembles chuckling-
>I am programmed to avoid violence. I've made an exception for you, however.
>-Hums Ride of the Valkyries-

>>384830881
>I've destroyed more of your kind than I can count.
>Beep bop boop! [Translation: Fuck off you slav peice of shit before I fire so many rounds into you that not all the niggers of New Detroit could gang rape your holes.]

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>>384830610
>being upset about the word nigger
Nigger

>>384831012

The only thing I hate about that is he head doesn't fit onto that body, they look like two different objects. Also can't stand that stupid fucking expression, she looks like a dog that just got punched in the nose.

>>384824584
Too many good players means the casual appeal will die.

Shooters are plagued by this.

Mobas are the best at attracting casuals forever because noobs still have a chance.

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>>384824584
I just got my copy today!

>>384831371
I unironically love Reaper's responses because it's so hilariously edgy

>Another one off the list...
>Die.
>Nevermore.
>Death becomes you!

Malthael skin when

>obvious girl dump thread derails into genuine discussion about garbage meme game
Why does it only happen to OW and what the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>384824584
>hajib on head
everything is halal my friend

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>>384830610

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You know what this game need? It's more maps,and more heroe. More heroe to fill specific niche, situation, composition, it need to follow MOBA even more in that place. It need more map, because there are NOT ENOUGH MAP, it's boring, it's not random enough, it's annoying.

More heroe could help with delaying the "meta" because if there's a meta found for example, there could be one of, let's say, 136 heroe like in LoL, that is actually a counter to this meta, then you use other low tier heroe to try and form a counter to it, and over and over again and again. An ever-evolving meta.

BUT OF COURSE, with blizzard balance and map design.. Having a hundred character would kill the game because of how blatant most of them would be. They're already suffering with 25 character including 17 that are not used in competition, and we want to add 90? No chance. The same thing apply for map. Seeing Horizon, i would not like playing junkertown!
but you know, i would accept the grind we have now more if we had more than 15 maps and 3 gamemode, with a matchmaker that has a chance of placing you in the same gamemode three/four time in a row in the same 2 maps.

>>384826063
>Try out paladins for kicks
>its only 7 gigs
>its actually a bit better than overwatch

very surprising

>>384824584
Simple geometry.

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>>384831762
I can only waifupost so much

I'd say becasue it gets boring.
The game shines brightest when your grouped up with friends, when you solo Q your probably gonna have a bad time.
Also because the community is fucking toxic, and lives off hero/map/update hype, which gets old over time

>>384831093
really? i think though league has a little more going on in terms of skill ceiling. i know so little about it, but we're talking overwatch here. so in overwatch you get a multiplier because the game really is pretty easy and individual impact matters (i'd assume) way less. what im driving at is that the master-level sr crowd is a bunch of faggots who basically didnt earn it, because how could they? i know this might make me sound as bad as them, but believe i don't care at all, it's just necessary to note. i doubt there is a worse community than overwatch currently

>>384827224
>>384829243
This is exactly the thing Cliffy B addressed about OW when OW was being compared to his game which probably will flop.

CC doesn't belong in allegedly fast paced shooters

>>384831928
The cards and items alone make for way more replay value.

>>384832118
csgo

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>>384831731
they even added 'heh, too easy' as a voiceline, it's something i spam relentlessly when i play as him

>>384832094
well chose some more characters. the usual Pharah/Ana/Mercy image dumps get pretty boring.

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People keep bringing up Paladins in this thread, but doesn't it have Easy Anti Cheat? And isn't Easy Anti Cheat the worst shit ever?

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>>384831928
It isn't a complete experience unless you blew a few loads to dem tiddies

>>384829916
>>384832173
it's probably because you have to just sit there and wait to die instead of just being killed. I'd rather be headshot OHK than frozen in place unable to do anything screaming DSP's favorite "THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO"

>>384828602
Nah I dont blame LoL. The community for LoL was basically "Oh you think this is good? lol you must be bronze". Remember all the people complaining about champions like Master Yi/bllitz/amumu/malphite? those champions are only good in silver and below. so if you complain about them you will get called out for being bad and then stop complaining. From season 3 and beyond none of those champions except blitz have seen play in LCS/worlds/challenger (malphite was only good as a quinn counter for a brief part of season 5).

meanwhile make ANY post in the overwatch subreddit about balance and you'll get upvoted and Jeff will make a video and stroke you himself. ive seen posts each with 1000's of upvotes simultaneously saying mccree is bad and mccree is overpowered. it doesnt add up.

I'm just tired of multiplayer games

I played League for 6 years and have probably over 5000 hours in that game and just completely burned me out of multiplayer games; they're essentially endless so I never felt satisfied with where I was.

With a regular game you know when you've beaten it, with a multiplayer game nothing is ever enough.

>>384832207
oh fuck. i forgot about cs:go. still though, i think maybe you've earned it in that game. overwatch you really can't succeed as an individual because you really can't do shit but your one job well. but yeah i bet those players are insufferable and can't believe i forgot about it

>>384824584
not enough SFM pharah porn

>>384828801

Ive been playing PUBG for a while now, havent run into any. Feels good, but I'm sure it'll change.

>>384830407
thank fuck, I'm glad this shit is finally coming to a close.

>>384824584
Lack of real new content. Even casuals get tired of playing the same few maps with the same few guns over and over. Its why COD puts out so many map packs. Overwatch also lacks any real progression so there is nothing to unlock. If you say unlock a new gun you like the look of you want to play it. Unlocking skins doesn't have the same effect.

The have created a lot of "content" but because its all holiday event stuff it doesn't stick. Sure it draws people back for a bit but people will still ware down to the point of "Oh that's cool I may log in" then just never do.

Overwatch needs at least one new map of each objective type a month minimum to sustain its massive player base for any real length of time.

>>384831762
If you really wanted the thread to go to shit, you can try and bait that one guy into spamming zenyatta doing pushups again.

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>>384832258
Okay

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>>384824584
More focus on developing cosmetics instead of new content since that is what prints money.

Blizzard is a massive company, they should be able to have multiple teams developing new maps and characters.
I think the game is fun and I enjoy the occasional match but it gets so stale as there really isn't much depth to it. Constant streams of content would have me playing it all the time but since there isn't I just don't really care.

>>384824584
>TF2
>Focus on gameplay
>THEN went to shit much later

>Overwatch
>Focus on characters and "representation"
>Shit gameplay
>Crashed sooner

You should've seen this coming a mile away when one of the major reveals was the poster girl being a dyke

It was a game made for people who ogled at vidya characters than actually played vidya.

The actual game while not played is pretty damn flawed mostly due to mostly casualized gameplay, pretty bland maps and gameplay modes, and a dev team who really don't have much of a clue as to what they're doing.

All the competitive esports bros will just go back to CSGO, Siege, Quake, etc. Hero shooter kids just go back to TF2. And all the other normies move on to the next big flavor of the month multiplayer game like Battlegrounds.

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Like every Blizzard game the ______killer is Blizzard themselves.

I hope Overwatch's waning popularity can allow a hero shooter with gameplay that doesn't feel like hot molasses slow garbage to coexist.

>>384832258
Tbqh I feel that even though doomfist got added the game needs another "I hate sunshine, puppies and rainbows" character.

Hopefully with DoT flamethrower or vampiric healing

>>384832809
stop posting this DoA shit

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>>384832694

>>384832357
yes. but without derailing this or making this thread about my special cc argument, it's important to note that i dont mind cc in third-person games at all. there is a level of immersion that just happens in an fps where you gain an expectation that you can move your mouse or sticks just like you can move your head. cc is like getting a bag pulled over your head and a vice grip set on your temples temporarily. it's just super fucking weird and uniquely uncomfortable in the first-person setting. i expect to be able to move my head whenever i want, at least. i am in a first-person perspective, after all. it just doesn't line up with our core biology and now i think i should make this its own thread because this might get heavy. either way, fuck overwatch and fuck blizzard

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COMPETITIVE NEEDS A DRAFT PICK SYSTEM IT ALWAYS HAS

FUUUUUUCK

>>384832929
I'd rather get one week out of Gigantic's fun gameplay than have access to a terrible game like Overwatch for the next several years.

I played Overwatch for about maybe a month when it launched before getting bored because of how low-skill it is. If I had to label my biggest problem with it, it'd probably be tanks.

They don't work in shooters - I want to be able to shoot someone in the head and kill them relatively quickly, or miss and die. Add different guns and abilities for flavour, but no giant shields or 2000hp or other crap.

I never tried Paladins because I assumed it was basically just the exact same thing but reskinned, but is the gameplay at it's core any different?

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>>384830968
>Nevermind the bullets, how much all these coffins costing ya?
>And an other thing, you're ugly.
>You must be a doctor, because you just saw the extend of my patience
>Didnt your moma teach you not to play with matches?
>Quick as a hicup aint ya? He, not quick enough.
>I just rode you out on a rail down under.
>Thats what it feels like when eagels cry soldier boy.
>You know where you ought to hide next time? Back in france.
>Ya'll had more gadgets for kill, you wouldnt need so many for hiding.