>Literally a multi plat machine >Sell nearly 70M units How?

Why aren't people building stronger PC rigs than this? What's the appeal of PS4?

>>384807796
Marketing
Exclusives
Appeal
No competition

>>384807873
To play dota and cs go? No thanks.

>>384807873
bloodborne

>>384807796
>>Literally a multi plat machine
That's not the switch

>>384809181
>Exclusives
Lol, no seriously.

>>384807873
Why aren't normies building PC rigs? They want something they can plug into their TV to play multiplats. Last gen it was the 360, this gen it's the PS4.

>>384807873
Most
Most
Most
Most
MOST people don't want to spend more than 10 minutes setting up any entertainment device. PCs are better because there are people that care. Most people don't care, and just want to play video games without thinking about how good they look or how much cheaper it can be if you budget yourself out. Why do you think most people are in debt? They don't want to budget because it gets in the way of life.

>>384807796
>Literally a multi plat machine
why would the masses care if a game is exclusive or not
the thing plays a whole fuckload of games

>>384809623
why does every ps4 owner act like this is a godsend? I just got a ps4 a few months ago and see zero reason to play it.

PC gayming is for gays, you homos, kek.

>>384809895
i'm just a soulsfag who doesn't own a ps4 and sees bloodborne as the only good game it has

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>>384807796
Mainstream consumers don't give a shit about multiplat/exclusive they just want something that's plug and play and has a large library of games. Also there's a snowball effect for every console generation. If all of my friends own a PS4, I'm far more likely to buy a PS4 than anything else.

>>384809737
Unfunny memes aside, I bought a PS4 because of the console exclusives, nothing else. I still have my PC and only play multiplats there.

Some of you fellas should stop arguing about console wars and accept the idort life to actually play games instead of dumping folders of wojaks

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>>384807873
For me it's stability. I've never flawlessly played a game on PC before, it's always been riddled with glitches, errors, problems, crashes and so on. I've never had a game so much as freeze on console before.
I don't have time to play games often anymore so when I do, I want to be able to play 4 hours un-interrupted.

You all should know this by now.
The later Sony consoles ride on the PS2's and PSX' success. That's the sorcery.

>Not being rich enough to build a great PC and buy a PS4

Even if you make average money, with proper budgeting, you can do it.

>>384809895
It's an unfunny meme to try and trigger PCfats if anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-idkOjAnWL0

>>384810231
>If all of my friends own a PS4, I'm far more likely to buy a PS4 than anything else.
This. It's a massive part of why the 360 won its generation. That and starting a year earlier at a much lower price, which gave it the starting audience it needed to crush the PS3.

>>384807796
Most people are poor and cannot afford a gaming PC, so the PS4 is just the natural choice. For $200 you get a decent gaming system that's easy to use even for retards.

>>384810378
You are too dumb to apply patches manually and tweak settings? Sounds like the perfect console audience to me.

>>384810505
They could've chosen a good game to trigger them with

>>384809848
This. the only reason I got a PC is because someone built it for me, if I had to do the research myself I would have stuck with consoles

>>384809848
>or how much cheaper it can be if you budget yourself out

Consoles are a far cheaper investment than PCs if you don't game much or focus on a single game for long periods. Only children have the free time and attention deficit to have a backlog.

playstation is pretty much the default console everywhere but murika

>>384809623
Then why did it only 2-3m copies?

PS4 is a multiplat machine

>>384807873
Weeb games.

I cannot play these on PC

>Digimon CS1+2
>Persona 5(Almost emulatable tho)
>KH3
>The Last Guardian
>World of Final Fantasy
>Bloodborne
>Dragon Quest XI
>Yakuza series
>Death Stranding

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>>384807796
Funny thing is some games run better on PS4 than PC

>>384810468
I used to have a microwave toaster eight years ago that ran WoW and it's expansions pretty good. I want to save up for a decent rig now.

>>384810591
Patching shit is the worst part about PC gaming, don't even pretend like it's not.

>>384810734
so ps4 it literally a weeb system then?

>>384810529
> It's a massive part of why the 360 won its generation
That'd be the Wii, actually, as it sold the most. And that's what determines the "winner", nothing else, the number of consoles sold. 360 sold the fewest consoles after all had been discontinued.

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>>384807873
Basically this >>384809848 with a dose of this >>384810378 but not only that, anon, having a PS4 or an Xbone (or even a Wii U before the Switch came out for crying out loud, even if it was just a Smash/Mario Kart machine) has more "normie attractive" than having a PC. From my personal experience by befriending normies through other interests, they seem to be turned off if you tell them "Let's play FIFA on my PC", even though they'd be using the 360 controller they're so accustomed to. Something about such piece of tech doesnt bode well in their minds, and girls just give you blank stares.
Now, a console is a completely different deal, either to play the same FIFA on PS4 or Mario Kart in your wahoo machine, or shoot in your dudebro bone. Why? I don't know.

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>>384810251

>Unfunny memes aside, I bought a PS4 because of the console exclusives, nothing else. I still have my PC and only play multiplats there.

Believe it or not but nobody outside 4chan and Geogaf give a shit about Sony's exclusives.

>>384810815
How new are you to videogames?

>>384810737
Nier Automata, a-and...

>>384810664
>online fee
>cost of games
>one part breaks gotta replace the whole thing
>shit sales

hmmmmmmmmm

>>384810815
That's why I bought one, if you're on 4chan why would you hate anime games?

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>>384810591
No I can do it, but it's a pain in the ass and totally unnecessary when you have a cheaper, more reliable machine to plug and play with. I'm not saying PC is shit, so don't get so defensive. I'm saying consoles suit my preferences better.

>>384810963
batman arkham shit

>>384810815
Well if you're not a weeb, you're a shit eater.

I got a gaming PC for emulation and the only good Western series alive today(The Witcher)

Also rare superior JRPG ports.

>>384810784
But you have to do literally the EXACT same shit on consoles now. Why are you pretending "patching" on PC is any more cumbersome than the same automatic updates consoles have?

>Game needs a patch
>Patch is released, automatically downloaded and installed
>Play game again
This applies to PC and consoles, genius. PCs have become easier to use while consoles have lost a lot of their ease-of-use, they're not "plug-and-play" anymore, you have to patch and update just like a PC now.

Do adults really play games on their work platform? I seriously hope they're not running windows while pretending to have the moral high ground.

>>384810378
t. tried playing games on his moms hp laptop running windows 98

>>384810993
I don't but from the list posted up, there were only 3 i would be interested in playing that are PS exclusive

>>384810889
>nobody outside 4chan and Geogaf give a shit about Sony's exclusives.
More like nobody except on 4chan believes exclusives are the only reason to buy a console.

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>wanted to upgrade PC
>video cards triple in price

>buy PS4 Pro instead

>>384807796
Look at what it's competing with.

>>384807796
When did Taco Bell start giving out blue PS4s?

>>384811038
>The Witcher
>implying you aren't a shiteater

>>384811095
Yeah sorry let me spend a shitload more money just because YOU really hate consoles, fuck off.

>>384811065
Reality and facts are irrelevant. Only public perception matters and to the public eyes (i.e. not this place, but you know, normal people...) PC are harder to use than consoles.

>>384810963
>Diablo
>SFV
>MKX
>FF Type 0

>>384807873
it's cheaper

>>384811209
Name 3 good Western games release in the last couple years.

>>384811224
>admitting to play on a toaster

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>MMXVII
>People are still anal devastated that Sony is crushing the competition

Not even the shitty Switch is doing as good as PS4

>>384811390
>playing
I'm a console gamer, nigger. I don't care enough to upgrade my PC every two years. I bought this pre-made five years ago specifically for porn.

>>384811156
>buy a 1050 to tide me over for a year until I could afford to upgrade
>GPU prices skyrocket

Looks like I'm playing on medium boyos

Why was the 360 the better multi plat console last gen, whereas this time it's the PS4? What happened?

>>384810963
Bloodborne

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>>384811593

>>384811593
>Why was the 360 the better multi plat console last gen
Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey were great RPGs and I wish they were on playstation instead but what else did they have?

>>384809848
You don't have to. You can still buy a prebuilt. I did for my last one because I haven't had time for that shit lately.

I still recommend anyone with time builds theirs though. The front audio jack on mine stopped working and I can't be assed to fix them because the case is so tight and blocked off by these tiny-ass screws.

>>384807873
Because the living room PC gaming experience still leaves a lot to be desired.

Even after you have Kodi set up to launch your applications with a controller there will still be problems you can only fix by having a keyboard present. Not to mention some games don't work well with bluetooth controllers, the xbox wireless adapter doesn't turn off the controller (so you either burn power or take off the back and put it back on), and some games even from last generation are worse than their console counterpart (Killer is Dead and Enslaved: Odyssey to the West off the top of my head).

I play on everything, I actually prefer playing in arcades most of all, but don't act like its shocking that the plug and play game box with the most exclusives is selling the best.

>>384810664
This is not true at all in the age of 50+ games package sold 60 bucks. Even if only 5 games are worth it, you quickly have a backlog. And with sales, I pack for ~a year of gaming in two weeks.

>>384811289
Well consoles are selling fewer and fewer units every year now, dedicated hardware in general has taken a massive nose-dive. PS4 is the only console selling well, 8th gen won't even reach 5h gen totals, let alone 6th or 7th gen.

>>384809895
Its only people on /v/, the game really isn't all that great, it looks nice and all but it's borning as hell

>>384811593
Xbox One is a living embodiment of Murphy's law.

>>384810823
>360 sold the fewest consoles after all had been discontinued.
This is true only for the last 2-3 years of last gen. For the rest, 360 was outselling PS3.
Fair point about the Wii, but it pains me to say that a console made for literal children "won".

>>384810990
I think you still don't understand how this works for a normal person. We, the people in this website and other forums, care about sales because we play a shitload of games like the faggots that we are. A normalfag buys one or two sports games to play when his buds go over to his house, maybe COD/Battlefield and that's the end of it. If he feels like it he might pick up last year's Ass Creed for 10$ at walmart or something else that he heard was "good" somewhere (most likely when he was mindlessly scrolling facebook). They don't even get close to 10 games per year.

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>>384807873
this is why

>>384811831
>the xbox wireless adapter doesn't turn off the controller (so you either burn power or take off the back and put it back on)
It turns itself off after a few minutes, dipshit.

>>384811593
Microsoft shot themselves in the foot when they wanted to become Big Brother and have the console always online, with the Kinect mandatory, using it to measure the ammount of people in the room, after a certain ammount (more than 3 people, I think?) you'd have to pay a special fee and some crazy DRM shit to not be able to play used games.

>>384811990
Wii unironically had the best exclusives. People who dismiss things as kiddie on the surface level aren't typically too mature, I'm sorry to say.

>>384812056
A few being closer to 15.

PS4 basically proved that console gaming is still a viable source, and isn't going out of style anytime soon.

I remember when analyst kept saying console gaming is dead and should make way to PC/ alternative cloud gaming.

>>384807873
Tell me what's easier:
>Plugging up a video game console and setting up an account
or
>Making investments for upgraded parts to put into your computer (that you use for things other than gaming) while making sure that necessary hardware and specific application requirements are met

>>384811930
Well lot of gaming has shifted to something even easier to use than console and even more accessible, mobile.

So it's only natural. Casual PC gaming (browser) also has taken a important part of the market, while in the past all you had to play was literally just console.

>>384807796
Not everyone knows about pc parts and most are too intimidated to learn how to build their own pc.

The PS4 is relatively cheap when compared to the average cost of a mid to high end gaming pc and a lot of folks know what they're getting if they've ever owned any of the previous playstation consoles.

>>384812029
>psvr
No thanks

>>384807796
>best selling game on pc is a gay ass visual novel


How?

>>384812309
PC gaming will rule when a $400 laptop can do 4k on high settings.

So maybe the gen after next.

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>>384811364
>last couple years

>Age of Decadence
>Underrail
>Banner Saga 1/2
>Grimrock 1/2
>Hollow Knight
>Dominions 4
>EU4
>CK2
>Divinity: OS
>Shovel Knight
>Ori
>Snake Pass
>Yooka Laylee
>Avadon 2/3
>Nuclear Throne
>Risk of Rain
>End is Nigh

>>384807796
Normies love it

>>384810889
You should go outside more.

>>384812326
>Plugging up a video game console and setting up an account
>And installing your games
>And updating your games
>Just like a PC!

Consoles got less easy to use, PCs got easier to use. Consoles aren't "plug it up and play" anymore, games not made by Nintendo require installs and numerous updates out of the box, just like PC.

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NORMIES DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT EXCLUSIVES YOU RETARDS
THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE MULTIPLATS AND WHERE THEIR FRIENDS ARE PLAYING ON
THEY AREN'T GOING TO SPEND +$1000 FOR A MACHINE THAT LIKE 3 OF THEIR FRIENDS PLAYS
WHY IS /V/ SO GODDAM FUCKING RETARDED

>>384807796
There are a lot of multiplats out there.
>>384807873
Building a PC takes a good deal of time and effort even if you just follow along a YouTube video. Consoles are friendly prepackaged machines that fit nicely under your TV and simple enough for the dumbest trailer trash and hootrat to understand.

>>384807796

The real question is how the Xbone has sold ANY units.

>>384812407
Revenue from consoles and console games at retail was $6-7 billion last year, while PC games were $39 billion and mobile $46 billion. Console publishers are changing how they make money, expect to see mobile-like service models and micro-purchase bullshit become the norm.

>>384812490
We already a gen or two "after" and manufacturers are still selling dual core laptops.

>>384812309
>I remember when analyst kept saying console gaming is dead and should make way to PC/ alternative cloud gaming.
>and should make way to PC/ alternative cloud gaming.
You mean mobile? Because that's what all analysts have been saying. Nobody ever said that PC gaming is the future.

The future is mobile. And publishers are shifting lot of their budget towards mobile gaming including leading ones like Square Enix (FFBE), Sony (FGO), Bamco (Dokkan Battle) and so forth.

All those leading apps are generating more profit than whatever AAA games those companies are releasing. It's just a matter of time before AAA games just purely vanish. Too costly to develop, lot of risks involved. Easier to keep shitting mobile apps.

>>384812801
/v/eddit will never understand this

Nit everyone is autistic and stupid to build a shitty PC

PS4 is a successful console because we'll behaved normal people play on it, only autistic virgins play on PC.

>>384812914
I'm well aware of that. And that's just revenues, profit from mobile are even higher consider the fast development cycle and low dev costs as well.

>>384812823
It still have exclusives and halo
>inb4 on pc
Ps4 are losing exclusive to pc
Also x1 is best for multiplayer games

>>384812801
Normies also don't buy and support consoles and games for long periods of time, and by appealing and catering to these customers Sony, MS and lots of western publishers have seen a massive drop-off in overall hardware and software sales since 7th gen. Surprise surprise, casuals are getting tired of yearly AAA garbage and hobbyists have been turned off for years by dumbed-down shit for the lowest common denominator.

I doubt the average normalfag wants to fiddle with settings and even .ini files for Todd games. When I played on consoles I didn't even know what tearing was.

Silky smooth 20 fps aside, console games naturally tend to be more optimized for the hardware. And I think devs even play with motion blur and other tricks to make the framerate drops bearable, whereas on PC you either get rock solid 60 fps or games feel all over the place with constant microstutters.

>>384810664
This

>>384812940
Problem with mobile gaming is that it's becoming oversaturated and most people don't like always online games

Mario Run did profit but it didn't meet Nintendo's expectations

>>384813037
So perhaps you can see why I fucking hate these awful, awful consoles that do nothing but cater to morons who will throw money at micro-purchases, "DLC" and subscription fees, perpetuating and sustaining this bullshit.

>>384807796
Had less E3 fuckups. a thousand times more marketing everywhere and probably better specs too.

Most people bought it for CoD and sports though, only a smaller fraction actually cares primarily about the movies and weebshit exclusive to it.

>>384810990
>cost of games
Like three or four over the lifespan of a console if you're a normal person.

>>384813262
But they're not, you're paying for online access you're not using all the time or your games lose half or all of their functionality. And if you buy at launch you're overpaying for something you're not using much that will go down in price while you're not using it.

>>384809848
Well they care about other things like time, Some people don't have time to build a PC and do all the troubleshooting and diagnostics. Some people just want to have fun and spend time with friends or relatives who only has consoles. I can build a PC but I don't have time to be the "IT guy" of the family or the group. So just I suggest OEMs that actually have good customer care and warranties. A lot of famous gamers/streamers who started out with a rig that they build just buy a complete build from PC boutiques because they value time. You probably don't have a decent job or you're a stingy jew since the "budget" is more important to you than time.

>>384809181
>No competition.

There's literally two other companies competing with them at all times.

>>384807873
I only play weebshit, give me a high end PC and I'll use it to emulate PSP games. But I doubt that's what is going on here.

I guess lots of people just want something that works for little investment.

>>384811593
There is a massive market for people who mostly watch TV but do like the occasional dudebro game and Microsoft thought they were making the ultimate machine for them. Unfortunately that demographic tends to be stingy.

>>384811760
PCs, by and large, take longer to set up than consoles.

Keyboards and mice are necessary to interface with PCs, so having a controller isn't enough to set one up, even if you're going to just use a controller on PC.

I agree that PCs are better price/performance than new consoles, but most people can't fathom the management and maintenance of running a PC.

>>384813383
>"normal people" only buy 3-4 games
Then why are you insisting they're the target audience if they're not buying most of the games?

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>>384810737
Cause the dev didn't give a shit and didn't bother to optimize for pc?

>>384807796
Stumbling competition.

>>384813268
Over-saturated with products? Sure. But profits are still growing and unlike console gaming which was mostly targeting Japan / USA+Canada / Western Europe, mobile gaming can target literally every single human on this planet.

God even a country like Korea cannot easily access console gaming since many games don't have proper KR translation / release. Meanwhile mobile is cheap to localize and publishing in 50+ countries is extremely easy.

So more market to conquer, more money to make.

As for always online game, as the world gets more and more connected this will be come less of an issue. Top leading apps are pretty much all "always connected" and they generate 100's of millions a year.

>>384813276
There's nothing you can do about that sadly and publishers knows it as well. You won't change the world's population behavior toward gaming and you're going to see more and more games like that for sure.

>>384807796
>the cheapest multiplat machine
How does it sell so much? Really activates the almonds.

>>384813593
Sony doesn't give a shit about third party sales. As long as they sell the console and a PS plus subscription so the normie can play the 3 games he'll buy, they're good to go.

>>384812527
>All that indie shit
Topkek

>>384813586
We are closer to the whole "couch experience" with shit like Steam and the Steam controller though.

>>384813057
>Ps4 are losing exclusive to pc

Everything always loses to Master Race.

>>384812697
I see you ignored the "PC is something that you use for things other than gaming" and "making sure that necessary hardware and specific application requirements are met" parts.

You forget normies flock to the flavor console to play the new FIFA or CAWADOOTY/BF whatever.
As for me, I got it for the exlusives, believe it or not I actually like Sony exclusives. I also have a decent PC for multiplats and a 3DS for SMT and FE. I don't give a shit about brand loyalty

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>>384813081

This is so staggering wrong it's embarrassing

>>384813593
It's hilarious that your assume the target audience is normal people.

>>384807873
Because most people don't wanna build shit. They want a cheap box that'll guarantee run all the best games out there. And their friends are on it. Exclusives too

>>384812936
Yes, Apple has $1500+ Dual core laptops too.

It's just jewery, but I'm certain that'll be over by the end of next gen which is probably 9-10 years away.

>>384813839
If I ever build a rig I'll mostly use it for productive things (animation or making games)

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Normies arealdy have at least one PC on their houses that can play league of legends,and that's enough for them
for the "big games",they just go and get a console
/v/ is autistic and doesnt understand that normies don't want THE BEST,they just want to play with their friends easily without having to set up a 1000$ PC,maintain it AND have the specs high enough to run the same games that their friends are playing
A PS4 takes down all of that without needing too much set up time and knowledge and has most of the games that are on PC
>WHY WON'T NORMIES JUST PLAY THE MULTIPLATS ON $2000 PCs LIKE ME?!DO THEY WANT TO PLAY THE NEWEST CAWADOOTY WITH THE SAME PLATFORM AS THEIR FRIENDS,OR IS IT THE WEEEB EXCLUSIVES THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT?
I swear you guys are retarded

>>384812697
>>And installing your games
>>And updating your games
And that's the stuff that happens on the consoles specifically built to handle such tasks. Personal computers are more broad and require more user imput.

>>384807796
Ease. Plug it into your tv, hit the power button, play.

Normies don't want to adjust settings or build or trouble shoot, they want something simple.

>>384811593
>>384812086
Everyone I knew had a 360 and when they did that everyone switched to ps4. Then ps4 got all the exclusive shit for multiplats that microsoft used to get on top of great exclusives

I have a PS4, and is it weird if I'm almost afraid to go really ham on the controller? It seems kind of fragile

>>384813508
He should have said no viable competition, the Switch is fairly niche and Microsoft lost all consumer confidence before this gen even started.

>>384814157
>is it weird if I'm almost afraid to go really ham on the controller?
Why would you ever go ham on a controller?

>>384814073
We call a person that can't handle mundane tasks like that a "retard". Go look it up.

No really, what is there to installing and updating a game? Click and exe and it does the job for you.
And nowadays with steam that's even easier.

>>384814157
Dual shock controllers always felt fragile, the PS3 controller felt like it would snap in half if you applied even a slight amount of pressure.

>>384807796
Miku

>>384807796
>not having a job and no family so you can afford all systems for their respective exclusives

>>384814141
"Always online" was a shit enough move even normies disliked it.

>>384814106
Ease of use, sure. But consoles are far from plug and play anymore, you'll have to wait a good hour before you can play anything after launching your console for the first time.

>>384813738
Mobile gaming is popular indeed and it's here to stay, even Nintendo is developing mobile games now.

However, I don't think it will replace console gaming, Bamco, Square, Capcom, etc are still focusing on console gaming. Even shitty Konami released Bomberman.

>>384813965
Flush 5400 rpm drives while we're at it

>>384814445
I can tell you through 7 years of owning and playing heavily on one that they're solid reliable. Worn out analog sticks sure, but still works fine with me.

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>literally ZERO (0) good exclusives
>sell 26 million units
How did they get away with this?

>>384810737
Which pc are you referring to? Some pc run it worse some better.

>>384813795
not an argument faggot.

>>384814772
Sunset Overdrive is breddy gud.

>>384809181
>Marketing
>No competition

The marketing of the PS4 was good because it emphasized its competition. Remember South Park episodes were people battle between PS4 and Xbone?

Basically Microsoft and Sony decided to launch both of their consoles on the same day, so a battle would be fought for them, which floroushed an interest into the consoles that reached everyone.

>>384813508
nintendo is never in competition with MS and sony, they have their dedicated fanbase and the VERY casual audience who buy their stuff, and those people are likely never going to buy a ps4 or xbox one because they either A) only care about nintendo games or B) only care about games for their children and shit like wiifit
plus the competing console for that gen was the wiiu, and we all know how that went

and the xbone buried itself with it's awful handling of the E3 reveal combined with shit like "always online" and "no preowned games"
Sony's stock actually went UP as microsoft's E3 presentation went on (you can look this up)

that's what he meant by
>no competition

>>384807796
>Literally a multi plat machine
You already answered your question, normalfags buy them to play FIFA, COD and Madden with their friends.

>>384814772
See>>384813057

>>384810737
I can think of 1, Arkham Knight, nothing of value was lost.

>>384814772
Videogames are sort of like that when you trivialize it

>>384807873

I have a PC. But when I get off work from a 13 hour shift, I just want to collapse on my couch and play something ASAP with minimal hassle.

I only play PC games on my days off.

>>384807796
At least 80% of the buyers are people who only want one piece of tech to game on.

PS4 has the longest range of games from all consoles and people don't want to build a PC.

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>>384814863
My dude. I hope we get a sequel.

That said, Xbone sells because Halo and >muh set box top media replacement

>>384813276
Uhm yeah PC is so much better.

All the F2P, MMO and Steam greenlight shit. And lets not forget Star citizen.

>>384814642
They're slowly shifting lot of money and headcount toward mobile however.

Most of these studios didn't hire more heads yet keep releasing lot of mobile games. For every single manhour spent a on mobile game that's one hour not spent on a "normal" game. Likewise for budget, dollars spent on mobile won't got toward AAA.

Sure they won't suddenly stop just like people didn't stop buying CDs overnight the moment digital distribution for music was available. It's a slow shift but it will eventually happen.

Companies do what's the most profitable for them, if the most profitable way to make game is on mobile, so they'll focus on mobile. You may end up with console game having mobile-like mechanics (like Gacha, Stamina and so forth). Who knows if FF XVIII won't be built that way?

Nintendo is a good example, when you see the money generated by FEH, you can genuinely wonder if Nintendo will keep bothering making main line games (or put as much efforts into them) since it's easier to just release gacha crap on mobile. Likewise for Pokémon.

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I am a console war veteran.

I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy; we fought ourselves.
And the enemy was in us. The war is over for me now, but it will always be there, the rest of my days as I'm sure Microsoft will be, fighting with Sony for what Nintendo called possession of my soul.
There are times since, I've felt like the child born of those two fathers.
But, be that as it may, those of us who did make it have an obligation to build again, to teach to others what we know, and to try with what's left of our lives to find a goodness and a meaning to this life.

Ask me anything. Pic is me fighting the PSN.

>>384814419
Why are you so being combative about the basic fact that most people are more comfortable using a console for video games rather than risk compromising their personal computer for video games. It doesn't make them retarded to not want to do mundane tasks.

>>384815107
Probably after Spider-Man game is done. Then we'll see a sequel.

>>384807796
It's basically the cheapest way to play games

>>384807873
The biggest answer everyone in this thread is overlooking is that normies want a box to play Madden (burgers) or Fifa (yuropoor and third world) on without it costing too much.

I just want to play a football game on my PC newer than Madden '08. REEEEEEEEEE

>>384815234
The guy implied that hose task are too hard for most people.

>>384814772
Xbox is selling on 360 brand recognition alone

>>384807873
It can play every new release and hot game people are talking about while also actually having exclusives.

The question is why would anyone get a PC to be treated like a second rate citizen instead of a PS4?

>>384807796
I have a 980ti PC and it's just my Netflix machine and recording station at this point, I do all my gaming on PS4 for the most part. Sit back, comfy as fuck and play video with my friends.

>>384812029
>image full of PC multiplats
lmao

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>>384807796
Because it got the best library ever with plenty of great console exclusives

We got :
>Gravity rush 2
>NIOH
>The last guardian
>Bloodborne
>Nier
>Infamous
> Horizon

Stop hating on Sony, the ps4 got the greatest and most diverse library in vidya history ever.
>Horizon
GOTY 2017
>Crash 2017
Platformer of the year 2017

This is the greatest year ever

>>384811523
>two years

meanwhile 2500k from 2011 outperforms ps4pro/xbone x

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Because Sony has a Chad

>>384815384
No, he didn't. He called people retarded for preferring updating/installing games on their consoles over updating/installing games on their personal computers.

Wanting the easier option does not make people retarded, especially when the other option involves a platform people definitely use for varied personal use.

>>384815904
>that happens on the consoles specifically built to handle such tasks. Personal computers are more broad and require more user imput.

Reading comprehension check.

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>>384815574
Im not going to even bother looking up that image
Chances are you somehow managed to pass 400 at this point.
You are also genuinely delusional if you think every first party Nintendo game is going to flop.

>>384807796
Because gaming is a secondary or tertiary hobby for many people and I'd rather spend time, effort, and money on quality hobbies rather than spending resources on what essentially is consuming media. I console game because I care so little about gaming that this is the level I'm willing to personally invest into the hobby.

Literally what do I get other than Bloodborne?

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>>384807873
Because building a PC is a fucking meme. They have 90% of the same library but consoles have those AAA exclusives on top of that.

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>Want to buy Gravity Rush 2
>Still $60

What the fuck? Why hasn't this drop in price yet?

>>384816679
> care so little about gaming
> spends time on /v/
Oh well know you know why this place is ruined

>>384816810
source

>>384816810
PS4 has 17 full-retail exclusives

Xbone has 7 full-retail exclusives

Beyond pathetic four years in

>>384815184
Eh, I doubt it

I see mobile gaming as a complement rather than a replacement.

Also, just because you release a mobile game, it doesn't mean it will be profitable or successful

>>384816821
Because people still want to buy it like you.

>>384816810
>nobody builds PCs
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?l=english

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>>384813508

Nintendo does their own thing, not directly competing, and Xbone just keeps shooting itself in the foot repeatedly. (Plus, most of their exclusives are also on PC)

PS4 is winning because it gets all the multiplat games, but they also cater to their fans, which they themselves branch off into their own mini fan bases.

Sony has:
Muh cinematic experiences
artsy indies (Which most are also from Vita Island)
Fighting game fags
Weebs incorporated

These guys have influence on the market, so when Sheepy McNorming is looking for which system to get, PS4 is usually recommended, and they can even tout that it has the best Baseball game on the market exclusive to them, as well as your maddens and cowadoodys.

Sony has pretty much made a console for everyone, by pretending it's a brand for the hardcore gamer.

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>>384816810
In addition, the best stuff not on consoles doesn't require a meme rig to run on.

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>>384817254

>>384816862
8ree

>>384807796
Netflix and blu ray machine for people to dumb to use a computer for it. In other words, normies.

>>384816942
Those are on TOP of all the multiplatform games.

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>>384817254
>In addition, the best stuff not on consoles doesn't require a meme rig to run on.
>PS4 struggles to even get 30 fps
Your average 5 year old $300 PC can do that.

>>384809980
Honestly this is the only legit reason. Outside of your little gay communities you fags like to like lurk aaround, PC is considered the place where homos, traps and trannys like to game.

>>384810591
You are too dumb to just buy a console and not have to do those things? Sounds like the perfect PC audience to me.

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>>384817650
Isn't the ps4 totally fitting for the gay lifestyle?

>>384809737
Sony exclusives tend to reach wider audiences than Nintendo, and I can't actually remember a xbone "exclusive" that isnt also PC.

>>384817434
>8ree
thanks

>>384814903
This. My sisters husband has a PS4 and only has FIFA and Madden. He's on MAYBE once every two months. My young cousin has a PS4, he only plays GTAV and Minecraft, sometimes Rocket Leauge.

PS4 is the ultimate normie machine.

I only bought one to play FF15, KH3, and GT sport. And 2 of those aren't even out yet. It sits on my shelf and collects dust rest of the time.

>>384816827
Shitposting is literally a better use of time.

>>384817896
Does that make the PS4 the Wii of this generation?

>>384817786
>You are too dumb to just buy a console and not have to do those things? Sounds like the perfect PC audience to me.

You are too dumb to drop out of middleschool and not have to go to college? Sounds like the perfect top-earners to me

>>384810889
bloodborne and yakuza have some normie appeal. people liked sleeping dogs, even if it was confused for watch dogs

>>384807796
Most kids can't afford a PC.

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>Literally a multi plat machine

Allright please link me to the steam pages of:

Bloodborne
Persona 5
Uncharted 4
Horizon
Nioh
Gravity Rush 2
Second Son
Yakuza 0
Last Guardian

>>384807796
>Multiplats are 90% of all current games
>PS4 is by far the best multiplat machine, getting Vita/PS3/Xbone/PC/PS4 games all in one box, hitting the DudeBro market with Fifa and CoD, while also pandering to the weeb market with its japanese titles
"BUT WHY IS IT SELLING SO WELL??!?!"

Damn, you're retarded.

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>>384818142
Most of those games did not sell very well.
And Persona 5 is on PS3

>>384817456
So sick of /v/eddit saying dumb shit like this.

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i havent owned a sony console since the ps2 but holy fuck do i love to watch them dominate the industry and watch microshits and nintenbros squirm

>>384817818
No Sony it doing a favor to the pc community by sponsoring their gay parties

>>384818142
http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/570
http://store.steampowered.com/app/578080
http://store.steampowered.com/app/433850
http://store.steampowered.com/app/440
http://store.steampowered.com/app/218620/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/4000
http://steamcommunity.com/app/482730
http://store.steampowered.com/app/230410/

>>384807796
What I wouldn't give to have a PS4 Hyaku Shiki Ver.

>>384816810
Everyone that (only)owns a ps4 falls into 1 of 3 catagories
1.kids
2.person that just wants to play the most recent releases and also doesn't want to do any sort of research
3."serious" vidya players that fell for the console exclusive meme, and feels like they need to latch themselves to a shit system so they can play whatever shit game naughty dog put out

>>384818291
I don't have a PS3 and neigther do a lot of ppl.

BB sold 3M (best selling souls game on a single platform)
Uncharted sold 6.5M
Nioh sold 2
Horizon sold 4
Guardian sold 2

Guess different people have different tastes and sony did a good job covering all their bases from madden/fifa fags to weebs, to souls to fast action games fags.

No wonder the PS4 is close to 70M in less than 4 years.

>daily thread where PCocks and Ninggers try to evaluate how they can bring down sony
Pathetic.

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>they were the good guys all along and made games great again

>>384818527
Are you trying to prove >>384818142 with those shitty games, or is this a retarded samefag?

>>384807796
Because MS revealed the most anti-consumer console ever made.

>>384818736
>not reading the thread
Even more pathetic.
PS4 won by pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Just like the fucking Wii.

>>384818736
No... Not really. It isn't necessarily a celebration, but isn't hate either. More like a mutual respect for PS4's feats.

>>384818609
I bought a PS4 for BB and played 1000 hours into it like DS1 and DS2 before it.

Easily worth 460 just for that, and now I'm playing P5 and Yakuza 0 and they are fantastic.

No regrets even if I never play other games on it again even though I'm very interested in TLG and Nioh.

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>>384818609
Well put anon

>>384818142
why does this image arouse me so

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>>384807796
>>Literally a multi plat machine
That's how.

Its the cheapest box to play your maddens, fifas and CODs

>>384807796
Consoles will always be more popular than gaming pc's because people get scared shitless at the idea of building a pc (i know it's dumb but that's the truth). The biggest pc games still to this day have jack shit for hardware reqs.

As for the ps4's console competition, well it had none. The WiiU and Bone shit themselves so badly there was nothing left for sony to do but win.

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I miss when we actually had a console war instead of a massacre.

>>384818142
the only games on here actually worth anything are BB, and maybe p5 if you really really like jrpgs.

and even then neither of those games are worth the price of the console, and having to pay for online

>>384818803
These are the most played pc exclusives on steam. Better than >>384818142 in every way. They even run on mpre than 30 fps.

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>>384818881
>i like playing shooters with a controllers
>fucking point and clickers amirte! No skill in that!

>>384818649
Everyone that (only)owns a PC falls into 1 of 3 catagories
1.kids
2.person that just wants to play the most twitch memes and also doesn't want to do any sort of research
3."serious" vidya players that fell for the PC gaben/144hz meme, and feels like they need to latch themselves to a shit system so they can play whatever shit game blizzard/valve put out

>>384811458
>PS4 has been out 3 years.
>Switch has been out 4 months
>People literally can't buy Switch consoles because they're out of stock right now.
>"KEK SONY IS TOTALLY BEATING NINTENDO"

Yeah, ok pal.

>>384819264
You don't have to have PS+ for anything from P5 and 99% of BB is offline and you only need online if you shit enough to need it, PvP is shit.
I had PS+ for like 3 months just to mess around with BB and never needed it again.

>>384819285
>A bunch of buggy fps mod memes and mobas.
All literally worse than BB by miles, and I don't even own a PS4.

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>>384819406
Heard it all before

>>384817569
You missed the point

Japs, that's how.

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>>384819584
Oh boy I love this post. Reminds me of these ones.

>>384819581
>Football Manager 2017 is a mod meme or moba

Bloodborne is kinda shit desu.

>>384819403
if you're going to say so much stupid shit at the very least reply to the right person

>>384819858
They had 4chan in 1989?

>>384819880
)yuo(

>>384818609
Here ya' go.
>>384819403
>>384819915
Also, stop crying faggit. :^)

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>>384820016
No but dumb faggots have been saying Nintendo is doomed since its incarnation.

>>384807796
>No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
Unfortunately, this is more true than ever globally, especially in the EU, ironically.
I don't blame Trump for pulling military support that the EU actively complained about, which subsidized their welfare states. Turkey dropped out of G20 after the American dollars evaporated and admitted it. It was a tax on Americans. Socialism doesn't work without a wall, to prevent brain drain and exclude leeches that wire money to other countries, you dumb fucks.
The repeal the repubs are pushing refers to a misnomered bill from 2015 that gave massive silicon valley Democrat donating corporations a massive loophole to fuck the isps with and pump their propaganda out for cheap; and I hate the ISPs too, but that's due to local politicians sweetheart deals. The NN bill of 2015, which stole the name from a longstanding mutual respect deal which has stood on honor since 1980, is a corporate handout to those that supported the "right side of history" side.

>>384819880
Better than all those games by a enormous margin, guess ya' didn't play it tho :^)

>>384820195
Back then their home consoles didn't dry up before they even hit 15M.

why do poor people have "loyalty" to a brand or company?

>>384820251
>when sony does good, people are dumb

>>384820195
Are these the same dumb faggots who said there'd never be a PS4 just a few years ago?

>>384810676
Because that's how much Souls games sell, you stupid memelord

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>>384820546
Better question.
Are they the same faggots who said Nintendo would go 3rd party after the Wii U flopped?

>>384820309
Dota 2 alone absolutely destroys anything on the PS4. But I guess you never played it.

>>384820386
Because they can only afford one, so they need to make sure it counts.

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Because normies...

>>384807796
Because 3rd party titles sell consoles. I know the /MODERN/ Nintendo fanbase of the young kids believe you can sit on a pad of 1st party titles and sell platforms but it doesn't work that way. I said that because its the closest good example of a company that's doing it wrong. Nintendo's 1st party titles are good but they don't hold the platforms afloat themselves.

inb4 "BUT NINTENDO" response despite that not being my point.

>>384820386
Only Nintendo fans have loyalty because they can't afford anything their parents don't buy for them.

>>384810676
i'll call it a multiplat machine when it has backwards compatability

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>>384820836
I dunno why they added the PRESS X TO SPIDERMAN nonsense when older Spiderman games had acttual controls for the webs.

>>384820678
They always say that about nintendo and ms and how going third-party will be better for them. They will hate the idea of sony going third-party.

Sony won.

>>384807796
Well you have to play multiplats on something. PC is the best for that but too expensive for most. Nintendo exclusives exclusively appeal to die hard nintendo fans and might as well not exist as far as regular gamers are concerned. Shitbox is shitbox.

Decent price, decent power is all anybody wants out of a console. If Nintendo would understand that, they could rule again. Microshit needs to die. I want every game to come out on PC as I have given up on consoles years ago because of muh framerate. I don't even care about grafix or resolution or jaggies, NONE of that shit bothers but anything less than 60fps is unplayable for fast action and reaction based games.

>>384820994
They will when ps5 comes out they have to they'll be stupid if they don't.

>>384807873
They buy a box and are sure it's gonna work as intended with every game unless the devs fucked up. And there's no troubleshooting.

/v/ underestimates how important the no errors or issues to troubleshoot thing is to console players. It's pretty much the main reason a friend of mine stays on console, and I can't refute him, he's absolutely right, I do some degree of fiddling with just about every new game I play, sometimes a shitload of fiddling, most of the time to get it to play/look/perform better, but there's definitely times where I'm fiddling with shit trying to get games to work.

>>384810378
Kek but how many times has your precious PSN been hacked and offline? How many mandatory day 1 30gb patches have you had to install on your ps4?

>>384807873
Anyone who uses any reason other than sheer stupidity is an idiot or projecting.
I own way to many fucking consoles, including ps4, and yes weeb games are a legitimate reason to buy a ps4, i bought one just for them, and yes some people just like exclusives. However those people are over represented here for obvious reasons. 90% of people buying a ps4 do it against their best interest because they are literal children, or are just too fucking braindead. Many people are unaware there is even a vastly superior option on PC. Many normies think pc games caps out at like cs:go or assfaggots unaware it's actually the best way to play AAA. It's like asking why beats are more popular than sennheiser headphones. People are legitimately too retarded for a 2 minute google search. They just hear marketing. Pc, as an open platform for gaming doesn't have a stakeholder that's going to bother with such heavy marketing.
I mean if you need any more evidence it's just marketing and word of mouth look at xbone. They fucked up uo their announce, but fixed everything before they even fucking released, AND they are still trying to make up for it and lost substantially to ps4. I mean trying to make an intelligent theory of why the people who thought wii U was just an upgrade kit for wii, bought a ps4 is beyond idiotic and pure mental maturation. If a quarter of the reasons itt were true Vita would be the best selling console of all time. Instead of just the best.

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>>384807796
>multi plat machine

LOL hate harder fag.
PS4 had the most and best exclusives of its generation.
You literally cant prove me wrong.

>>384809713
>SWITCH ONLY HAS NINTENDO FARMS! NO 3RD PARTY SUPPORT! NINTENDOOMED!
>SWITCH ONLY HAS MULTIPLATS!NINTENDOOMED!

So which one is it, fuccboi?

>>384813908
What the fuck are you talking about? Sales for the consoles and major releases is down from last generation.

When you market your console as a netflix box most people aren't going to have a reason to buy the new one unless they just want a shiny piece of technology

Even the most casual normies complain about DLC and other industry business practices at this point. COD, Battlefield, FOTMs, etc, they've all been selling less this gen than the seventh.

>>384821302
>PC master race: the post
it's a good thing i don't come here to see unbiased opinions.

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>>384821379
>best exclusives
Well thats your opinion anon.

>>384820690
>Shit gameplay e-sports meme.
kek, yeah just like Five Nights at Freddy's are better than any console horror game too, right?
Absolutely abysmal taste

>>384814073
So are you saying it's too hard for you to click "install" or "update" on PC?

>>384821212
Completely true but only a positive if you can endure playing at low frame rates. If consoles weren't sacrificing framerate for graphics, I'd still buy them. I also understand that they don't want to overwhelm normies with settings but would it fucking kill them to make a pretty 30fps mode and a more barebones 60fps mode? I fucking hate the industry so much for moving away from the 60fps standard. As hardware got beefier it should've been raised, not lowered.

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>Ps4 had the best exclusives of the generation
Is there a less true statement?

Splatoon, Bayonetta 2, and Smash 4 alone stomp the PS4s exclusive library.

>>384821379
This was correct even before Wii U's exclusives turned into Switch multiplats.

>>384821552
>cant prove me wrong

Like I said.

>>384821535
The fuck? I'm not into console wars. I'm not poor so I game on every platform. But it's true. Most normies buy consoles for no reason other than marketing/stupidity. Maybe it's whats best for them, maybe it isn't. But it's not a well informed purchase decision they made cause of X reason fanboys would like to believe. I mean understand there are literal MILLIONS of people who buy consoles exclusively to play multiplatform FPS. I'll let that sink in for a bit.

>>384807796
Because MS did literally everything wrong and there's almost nothing besides the worst halo games and that one gears game exclusive to it.

>>384820251
Sorry, turkey dropped out of the Paris Accord. I'm a lil drunk.

>>384821578
>Shit gameplay e-sports meme
You can say shit about those shooters as much as you want, but calling Dota 2 a meme and saying bad gameplay and on top of that comparing it to five nights at freddy's is pretty dumb. People come up with creative strategies all the time. It requires an amount of mechanical and mental skill that is only rivaled by Starcraft 2 in terms of video games.
But yeah I guess you never played it.

>>384821552
70 million

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>>384821824
There is nothing to prove wrong.
You made an opinion post and I acknowledged it.
I even gave you a (you) for your troubles.

>>384821741
BB is better and has 10x times more content than 3 games combined.

>>384822050
low software attach rate

>>384812697
>Installing games
PS4 starts installing the moment I put the disc in and is usually ready to run with in 20 seconds at monst

>Updating games
Again that starts automatically. I can still play the singleplayer mode kr whatever while the update downloads and all i have to do is restart it once its finished downloading

Also my PS4 downloads updates for any games I already have while its in sleep mode so theyre ready to go the next time I turn it on

>>384807873
People are lazy and stupid and do easier things even if they're not really that much easier and it'd be better to just do the first thing
Look at all the kids in college debts because they never even thought to apply for FAFSA

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This is the year we see Microsoft pull ahead on the console exclusive front.

Honestly everyone should just do what Microsoft did this generation. Just fucking release the games, even the first party ones like the new Gears of War, on PC.

Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are never going to court the PC market, and console players are never going to migrate en masse to PC because it's to complex for them. If they sold the games on PC theyd literally maintain their hardware sales because no one would jump ship, but increase their software sales because they have access to two platforms now. They win and gamers win because we finally can buy a box and play all the games on that one box.

It's time shed true exclusivity.

>>384822040
*or Broodwar, which PS4 fanboys wouldn't even know

>>384822221
>I can still play the singleplayer mode kr whatever while the update downloads
You can do that in every PC game.

>>384822123
>BB sold 3 million PS4s
>Second Son sold 3 million PS4s
>Horizon sold 3 million PS4s
>TLOU sold 6 million PS4s
>Uncharted sold 10 millom PS4s

Exclusives do matter after all because the PS4 would not be at 70 million without these games.

>>384822203
https://www.vg247.com/2017/01/23/more-impressive-than-ps4-sales-so-far-is-the-consoles-software-attach-rate-report/

>>384822304
This, and even people like me who buy consoles for exclusives aren't a great market for anyone but nintendo. Our attach rate is shit, we buy everything used and tend to pirate on console.

>>384822154
>Souls games
Who cares? I have access to 3. I'm way fucking sick of Souls game. One company managed to over saturate an entire genre.

If I really wanted another Souls game I'd buy a PS3 cheap and play DeS

>>384822203
http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/24/ps4-has-a-better-software-attach-rate-than-ps2-and-wii-6402140/

wrong sweetie

>>384807796
heavy indoctrination since PS2

>>384822437
>popularity is now an argument
I bet you smoke, right?

>>384822560
>Has a higher software attach rate than the literal worst two console for attach rates of all time
Oh wow, you really showed us

>>384822487
same way ppl feel about Mario and Zelda, this is why they're not selling that hot

Also DeS is garbage compared to BB.

>>384822656
Both have great attach rates you are high. Though admittedly i didn't think wii had a high attach rates until proven wrong.

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>>384807873
>pay $399
>play nearly every game that comes out for the next decade hassle-free
Huh... REALLY complex concept

>>384822679
Bloodborne is a different coat of paint on the same gameplay. 3D Marios and BOTW are similar coats of paint on entirely different gameplay.

>>384822589
No, facts are an argument, and the facts are that PS4 has more and better (80+ meta) exclusives than the competition, including the mid gen WiiU.

>>384822679
There are already 3 Souls games on PC.
Stop jerking off to BB. Nobody needs it.
Btw, how does that play on 30 fps?

>>384822560
>>384822804

Wii had a better attach rate at the end, 8.86 games per console, and the PS4 attach rate cited in that article is marginally better than the Wii U's, which was higher until pretty much when that article was published. PS4 had a pretty mediocre attach rate until recently.

>>384822869
But you decide that by popularity alone.
"Many people bought it, these games must be great."

>>384822869
PS4 has 17 full-retail exclusives, so that is false. Wii U has 40+ and most certainly has more with over an 80 metacritic average.

>>384822304
Especially China,South Korea, and Russia or more into pc gaming than consoles

>>384822437
>BB sold 3 million copies
>Second Son sold 3 million copies
>Horizon sold 3 million copies
>TLOU sold 6 million copies
>Uncharted sold 10 million copies
FTFY.

Those are the sales figures of the game. Not bundles. It's beyond dishonest to pretend that every single person who bought a copy of these games bought a brand new PS4 along with it.

If anything all your post really shows me is that there's about 3 million people on a console of 70 million regularly buying major releases. And occasionally something bigger can get 1/7th of the install base off it's ass to buy a game.

>>384807873
because a ps4 is cheaper than a pc with the exact same specs in my country

>>384823167
WiiU had Bayo2 Mario, Donkey Kong and Kirby and ports.

What a shit show.

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>>384823541
>People still SEETHING that they can't afford two consoles and had to pick between the best exclusives of the gen on WiiU, or multiplats on PS4.

Honestly if you didn't get to have fun on the WiiU you lost this generation, straight up.

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>>384823439
I legit feel bad for third world bros that pay so much for hardware. I bought my 470 for $160 over a year ago.

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>>384823541
Oh look at me Mario, Donkey Kong and Kirby is for little babies. I'm now gonna play Bloodborne, this game is for real men, where you get to kill shit!

>>384823710
I played half of BOTW on Cemu in 4K, too much copy pasta enemies and horrible combat made me quit after 2 diving beasts and around 50 shrines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLP9Qv4rOU

7/10 game at best, needed to be delayed 1 more year and have some actual content in the world.

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>>384807873
weeb games and sony exclusives.

>>384824031
I'm sorry that you have profoundly shitty tastes. Or went into this game trying to hate it.

I didn't expect BOTW to be any good and it blowed me absolutely away. You'd have to be blind to not understand why it's good.

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>>384824031
>is a console peasant ("The human eye can't see more than 30 fps anyway!)
>complains about fps

>>384810378
this right here

>PS4 had Bloodborn, Nioh, Uncharted, Until Dawn, Horizon, Gravity Rush, etc

Nintendofags in denial are so funny.
Neither the WiiU/Switch or the Xbone have exclusives to even compete.
>inb4 "waah those games are shit"
Give me better exclusives on the other consoles then.

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>>384810378
>claims not to have a lot of time to play games
>plays for 4 hours straight

>>384824224
I really liked the first 15 hours but it's just too much pasta and the combat is broken once you understand how flurrys work.

Having the ability to carry 30+ full heals as food and no limit on how much you can eat in a paused menu also removes all challenge from the game. And they had the mechanic of limiting inventory slots already, shame they didn't use it for cooked food.

I'll finish the main quest and the few decent longer shrines one day but it's way too top loaded at the start and goes from "you can do anything" to "find seeds/shrines/camps plus main quest"

>>384810591
When the patch is auto downloaded+installed, like in consoles and through steam, it's one thing; another thing is to FIX the problem your self: searching trough the forum, googleing, getting unofficial patches, un/installing drivers or changing hardware.

>>384823792
Too add, I got a 6600k overclocked to 4.3 on stock voltage even though I'm an amd faggot. $250 for the chip and board 1.5 years ago was too much to pass up. I tried to wait for Ryzen.

>>384807873
Not worth it.

The best AAA games PC has to offer came out long ago
The best indie games don't need a good rig

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>>384824882
> no limit on how much you can eat in a paused menu also removes all challenge from the game
"This game is not Bloodborne everyone! It is shit because it got different mechanics! Everyone listen!"

>>384824659
4-5 hours of sleep is fine.

>>384825028
>searching trough the forum
How often does that happen? 0.1% of the time?
>googleing
Wow such a hard task
>getting unofficial patches
Which you can't even get on console?
>un/installing drivers
2017, there is software for that
>changing hardware
how hard, didn't have to do that in 5 years btw

>>384825175
Indeed, BOTW is an exploration based game like Skyrim/FO4 and not action RPG (even though it really tries to pretend), but the lack of content and copy pasta enemies make it inferior to Skyrim/FO4 in every way.

Thus why it's a 7/10 game and I'm being generous. Nice grass tech.

>>384807796
Well your options are a Nintendo machine, a paperweight that plays the shittiest halo, or a weeaboo/cinematic experience machine, or an expensive MOBA/FPS machine.

A lot of people will get a ps4 as their console. Especially since Nintendo is weak on supply and releases new consoles almost too often. And a pc is too expensive. And if you buy an xbone, you're literally just retarded and don't know anything.

Personally, I own a switch, ps4, pc, 3ds. My ps4 and pc probably see the most use. There's enough good shit that's on ps4/coming to ps4 for it to be a good backup/exclusives machine.

And as for normies who don't play as much games as us autists, ps4 is probably the most affordable and best option out there in terms of gaymin.

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>>384811930
>Well consoles are selling fewer and fewer units every year now
PS4 is almost selling in line with 360 plus PS3 combined in the same time frame, and Xbone is selling at right around 50% of PS4.

>>384824882
>Abuse the combat system
>Complain that it is boring
Your MMO conditioning is showing anon. Stop trying to min max BOTW. BOTW actively punishes minmax play by making it boring as shit.

The joy of BOTW's combat/puzzles/general game design is that there's no right answers. Go into combat with a different plan or no plan and different things happen every time. The AI on the enemies is VERY good. Unless you're exclusively using flurry rushes fights in the same location can play out very differently.

>Having the ability to carry 30+ full heals as food and no limit on how much you can eat in a paused menu also removes all challenge from the game.
I guess it would if you slam back a meal every time you take a scratch and stock up on 3 pages worth of food (literally why) then it would be. But this goes back to what I said earlier. Cut the MMORPG minmaxing. I've run out food mid Lynel fight, and died because I didn't realize that hits were going to kill me so I didn't eat food for them.

Of course if you play in the absolute safest way possible you're gonna have a bad time. BOTW is so special because it rewards player creativity.

>>384821020
Hoping it's just because it's a QTE thing.

>>384825578
>"Everyone listen, every game that claims to be an action rpg has to be exactly ike Bloodborne otherwise it isn't! I'm a huge manchild who takes pride in his ps4 so you better listen everyone!"

>>384810378
yeah you just play while waiting for a 20gb update

>>384807796
>Literally a multi plat machine
>the best and easiest way to play the majority of games that people want

You answered your own question.

Also, the PS4 has the best exclusives.

Seriously.

Most of their exclusives don't interest you, but they interest someone else. They have something to appeal to every niche. Like weebshit? Like sportsshit? Like dudebro shooters? Like fightans? Like muh cinematics? Like RPGs? Whatever your poison, PS4 has got the best.

Microsoft still has racing more or less locked down, and Nintendo is gaining a foothold into action games. But otherwise Sony has dominance across all fields. Even PCs are threatened by their selection of strategy games.

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>>384807873

Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy

>>384825635
>expensive MOBA/FPS machine.
Which console is that?
Can't be PC because that has a complete spectrum of genres.

Because it's for normies.

>>384826050
That's also coming to pc and X1

>>384826193
Prove it

>>384807873
Really? PCs have been seen as archaic since the last decade, something that's only used for work or school onsite. Most people have replaced them with phones, tablets and laptops