Virtual reality will never catch on, and the games are on par

>>384802662
>I can't afford something I want

ok

>a stereoscopic display
>that you tape to your face
Eight hundred dollars.

>>384802662
*$900 smart phone not included with google cardboard

It will though. Eye tracking, hand and finger motion tracking, better games and more affordable hardware and there's no way something that immersing won't catch on

/v/ hates everything, give it 5-10 years and it'll be extremely popular

You can screen cap this

I dont why are traps gay?

https://youtu.be/mEuM91-t-wA

Virtual Reality will catch on when it's delivered in a pair of wrap-around sunglasses that fit in your pocket and not a moment before.

>>384802875
But that's wrong

>>384802662
>>384803390
VR already caught on

>>384803024

1500$+ computer not included with 800bux vr

>>384803461
no

>>384803461
>Already caught on
They're desperately slashing prices just to sell units. Of all the people playing video games on all platforms, less than 1% own a VR device. This is not catching on.

>>384803623
I guess consoles never caught on either because they keep desperately slashing prices on those, too.

>>384803493
*note: having an education high enough to know where the dollar sign goes on a sum is necessary to discuss computers

>>384802662

$15 for some cardboard.

Insane.

>>384802860
This is the same board that can't even spend 60$ on a game they're hyped for without bean counting.
Anything expensive makes them insecure and angry.

>>384802662
>Putting a screen 5mm at your eyes

Ophthalmologists are gonna get rich next decades

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>>384802662
virtual reality will never catch on mainly because you need a decent amount of room to maneuver in. you can't just sit down and play most VR games.

>>384804191
I'm surprised you know the word ophthalmologists but don't know why looking at screens are bad for you and how the way VR works would actually alleviate some of that.

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>>384804369
it's not even a typo, it's just the nonretarded way the rest of the world is using their currency signs

>>384802662
I agree i don't see even potential to become a niche expensive thing like those sets for racing games, only if they really improve their game

But more importantly

>>384803105
what's a coxcon and why they let a anon ask a question?

>SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS AND NINETY NINE US CENTS AKA "BITS"

Why should I buy this when a 50 buck regular game releases the same level of dopamine?

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>>384804538
Maybe in the undeveloped third world.

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>>384803096
I have. Get ready to be BTFO in 2027

>>384804538
Why does "the rest of the world" always mean "my country and the ones immediately surrounding it"?

>>384803896
Consoles have price cuts all time because launch hype dies down and then people with more reasonable budgets pick up a console months/years after launch. VR units get price cut because no one wants them.

>>384803623
they arent. htc even said they're very happy with how many units they sold and still sell for the unchanged price, which is why they're not changing the price at all. (only talking HTC here)

>>384803929
are you american? it shows. your stupidity, I mean. your lack of understanding for other countries. because in literally any developed country (thats right, the US is pretty undeveloped and 3rd world outside of big cities) the value sign goes after the value. it's a simple mistake to make if the US$ is the only one where it doesn't work like that.

They need to normalize it, and make sure more people have one, so developers actually want to make games that use it and so push the technology to its best abilites, rather than unity engine jump scare games
>package it with consoles
>market now knows that VR isnt just used by a small minority
>they develop games for it because they know it will actually sell becuae people can actually play it
as current its more like
>market knows only some people have them
>dont risk making a game that can waste their money by only being playable by a small number of people, and that the game may well still be shit and not sell even to those people
There are no games that make me say "I need a VR", literally none, theyre all cheap throwaway games with the price of admission being more than a fucking console.

>>384807181
So VR are having price cuts because the launch hype died down and people with more reasonable budgets are willing to pick it up months/years after launch. Neat.

>>384803105
What was his answer?

>LOL ITS CLUNKY
>LOL ITS EXPENSIVE

so were videogames when it started

these are the first generation tier. eventually its going to get lighter, better tech and cheaper.

then we will all be playing in virtual worlds and looking at 3D waifus

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>>384807181
>Consoles have price cuts because hype dies down
>but when something i don't like has a price cut after hype dies down it's because it's dead

>>384804538
>nonretarded way
>It's completely retarded

You foreigners sure have some goofy ideas.

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>love reading these threads,
>smug.png

who here echo arena?

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>>384808059
>consoles sell millions on hype
>VR sells a couple thousand copies on hype
Yup, same thing.

>>384808743
>couple thousand
Vive and Rift sold hundreds of thousands each in the first few months, which is pretty good for an optional peripheral

>>384802662
no, you don't get it. You redecorate your room so you can have a fake arcade cabinet to play badly emulated roms

>>384807661
In the first place they're only really useful for some games. For example, you might think it is useful for the FPS genre, but then all you are doing is substituting the mouse for your head. Not very accurate and will probably cramp your neck and give you a headache. Or maybe moving your head doesn't affect your aim, in which case now you have to juggle your gun aim and your head aim, which is a UI problem that hasn't been solved yet except in fiction with full real VR. It's very niche and right now the only real games that actually use VR without it being a gimmick are flight sims.

>>384802860
That doesn't argue what he said at all. Why pay for something with absolutely nothing interesting to play on it?

I hope VR takes a while to die so I can spend more time laughing at the sad fucks jerking off to VR waifu games alone in their apartment after a long day of web development

>>384808743
>Yup, same thing.
You're the one comparing apples and oranges. One is a system that plays video games, the other is an addon for a system that plays video games. Of course the system will sell more than its addon.

>>384803493
we all already have a 2k computer you poor fag.
Also Rift dropped in price recently.

>>384802662
Who the fuck pays 15 dollah for the cardboard when it costs 1$ from China? I paid 14$ for the bobovr and it has same lenses as the gear vr...

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>>384807661
The next consoles should be vr headsets if they really want it to catch on. The tech should be more affordable by then

VR is pretty cool, but it needs more games and better/cheaper hardware.
In my opinion it will stay a niche complement for a few genres kinda like a HOTAS flightstick, also for experimental shit of course.

>>384810387
>all you are doing is substituting the mouse for your head.

Incorrect. None of the VR games I've played did this. They use either the touch controller or standard controller/mouse aim while allowing you to look around without the aiming being tied to your head.

>>384808424
Is it worth? I've been thinking about buying it

>>384807578

Are you in a Spanish-speaking country? Why is it that every country that speaks Spanish is a basket case?

>>384811164
Did you not bother reading the second half of the post or something?

>tfw you kinda want VR but unsure if a i5 3570k is any good for it

I could upgrade my graphics card no worries, but I'd probably have to get a new motherboard if I was to upgrade my CPU which would then mean more RAM and the costs just start piling up. Might as well just wait a year or so until the next generation of VR headsets come out.

>>384808059
>Consoles sell bazillions of units, and over the years console manufacturers lower their prices by 20-25% increments as hardware becomes cheaper to produce, but regardless make the majority of their money off the sales of memberships and digital goods selling a gaming lifestyle.
>Luxury stand-alone peripheral has its price slashed in half in like a year even when initial stock can't sell.
pls don't be bait, pls don't be bait

it's growing and getting better but damn I kinda regret getting Vive for $800
>now rift+touch is $400
just fuck my shit up

but once they upgrade the resolution, add eye tracking, and the new vive controllers it's going to be sick

>>384811428
My bad. TrackIR has existed for years and worked with Arma without me ever feeling like I was "juggling" head taking and mouse aim

Head mounted displays are part of the future. Whether you like it or not they have great utility and make a lot of sense. Same way tables and such with built in displays are going to be used. Its not a gimmick. Keyboard and monitors and remotes and mice aren't gimmicks.

>>384811620
It's not a standalone peripheral you dingus. You need a PS4 to use PSVR so why would anyone ever expect PSVR sales to come close to PS4 sales?

>>384804070

It's for the convenience

You're paying to save the time of not doing it yourself

The value of your time varies from person to person

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>>384802662
post yfw you didn't fall for the vr meme

>>384812124
PSVR hasn't had it's price slashed in half, dum-dum, and wasn't the device I was talking about.

VR GAMES THAT ARE WORTH A SHIT:

Resident Evil 7
...

I like VR but where the fuck are the good games?

>>384811454
It'll be a couple of years, but that's my worry too. I have an i5 2500k which I've overclocked to 4.8GHz and my Rift and GTX 1080 will be here in a few days so I'll find out then.

what I love to see the most in those threads are the shills and their patterns, it's a shame /v/ doesn't act like /g/ and tell them to fuck off

>>384812542
I was using it as an example because it's easier to describe the situation using only one system that accepts one headset. Sorry for expecting you to think about how it applies to the market as a whole.

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>>384812473
If I bought a google cardboard for 15 bucks did I fall for the vr meme

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>>384802662
Just wait ... 10 years

>>384812773
There's a VR general on /g/ up constantly and it has way less accusations of shilling than any /v/ thread I've seen.

The problem is looking at VR as a genre. You have to see it as an experience enhancement for certain games.
Like a wheel and a shifter will give you a better experience in car games, or a yoke in a flying sim.

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>bought my £400 Oculus deal
>waiting for it to be delivered
>mfw I'll be shitposting in /v/ in VR while all you plebs are stuck on your 750 ti's, playing League of Legends

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>>384813135
But you can shitpost on /v/ just fine without VR.

>>384813670
You have to try it yourself to see the difference

>>384812834
>How it applies to the market as a whole, something-something while I move goalposts.
Half-off relatively new hardware that's only purpose is to profit directly off the sale of the hardware itself is quite telling of how well it's performing and effecting the market. You don't see a half-off Ferrari day on a year-old Ferrari even though there aren't many produced compared to Japanese sedans. It's clear these aggressive sales indicate poor sales performance overall.
Also PSVR to Vive/Occulus is a bad analogue for the market -- PSVR being tied to the PlayStation brand means it has different financial goals than the PC headsets; PSVR is aimed at selling you a lifestyle. Aggressive sales of the PSVR headset should be expected, Sony just wants you in the fold.

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>>384813135
Baiting isn't a good way to justify your shitty purchase.
Also there's a thread dedicated to this on /vg/ go shill with your five buddies there and if not, start telling me how intelligent you are.

>>384813670
>not wanting to get ludicrously close to your own shitposts so you can savour the stench

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>>384814212
Except that there is no way to smell anything in VR, there is no way to touch anything in VR because you always phase through stuff. And even if there was, you could just shit right now instead of forking over 400~800 dollars to smell shit.

>>384812473
haha fuckin epic

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>>384814441
>not being able to enjoy a wee joke about VR, has to get all serious and butthurt on a Cambodian clog crafting forum

>>384814086
You don't see half off Ferrari day because they don't require your own roads to operate one

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>>384812473
post yfw you had to deal with smug faggots who would ignore reality and insist that it was totally going to catch on THIS TIME

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>>384802662
How is porn on google cardboard?
I want to try it but I don't know if it's even worth to bother.

>>384811454
i5 3570 with a 1060 works fine

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>>384816742
want to know this as well.
cardboard or the cheap plastic housings with a strap

>>384816742
Refreshing.
But get something you can head mount, holding shit over your face with one hand is a bother.

>>384802662
It's another "People who don't understand the appeal of VR complain about VR" thread. Move along. If VR isn't your thing it's totally understandable. That said, shit-talking it like you know what it's all about when you gave it a five minute spin at a booth somewhere is pretty stupid.

>>384815137
You don't see Half-Off Ferrari Day because they produce and sell an adequate number of Ferraris.
Also, the "well you don't need to own roads to drive a Ferrari" is a bad analogue. A better comparison is that all Ferrari owners are also owners of other primary vehicles, while their Ferrari represents a luxury experience that they occasionally take advantage of when not using thier regular commuting vehicle, and 100% of Ferrari owners have other vehicles.

>>384816742
it can be very immersive and good but there are a lot of boring POV scenes to dig through. Some amazing ones though especially with natural boobs and butts in your face

headstrap is a must

biggest problem with mobile though is transferring the files. It takes a long time to transfer 4GB files to SD card

>>384817752
>Also, the "well you don't need to own roads to drive a Ferrari" is a bad analogue
It's almost as if the entire Ferrari analogue is a bad analogue

>>384816742
VR porn that isn't a <5 minute preview is difficult to find without torrenting

>>384818514
I'm on a private tracker with a shitton of VR torrents in bookmarks.
Now I just have to buy the gear.

>>384811259
It's free ya dingdong

Don't pretend like you wouldn't be interested if it was cheap

>>384802662
>will never catch on
what, you thought it will be an household item like laptops are now? never ever

it's suprisingly alive and developed. vidya library for vive is fucking enormous, and even chinkvr works really well for simulators (when set up properly). volvo VR standard is open, so we already have a single good API that some chinks could start using whenever they're ready instead of making crappy DK1-compatible pieces of shit. I think it'll slowly gain more and more users with time, and that's great since i'll finally be able to afford some old googles through used market when vive 2 gets developed and released

>>384818257
No it's not. It's a perfectly fine analogy:
>Luxury, expensive stand-alone experience purchased by those who already own a vehicle seeking to get more out of their hobby they can't with their existing vehicle.
Just because you tried to make the analogy shit itself with the road thing doesn't make it bad.
It also doesn't change the supposition I made either:
>Occulus tanking in price as stand-alone hardware is different then planned and procedural price reductions and marketing strategy of a console manufacturer selling a subscription, and a clear indication that Occulus cannot sell their initial hardware stock at their asking price.
You need to look no further than the GPU market right now -- Occulus' price drop is pure free market supply and demand, and right now there's tons of stock and no demand.