How the fuck are grenades deadly? All they do is released compressed

Highly compressed air, shrapnel, and heat. It's not like just blowing canned air in your face.

You're probably so fat that you wouldn't feel it through your rolls anyway though.

It's an explosion. It releases heat. That's not the worst part though. The worst part is the shrapnel.

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How come strateg/srpgs do grenades better than FPS games?

it's bcuz humens are weak

>>384802293
I have a feeling this will be the most retarded post on /v/ today.
Congrats OP.

What games have the best grenades?

>>384802530
Because in FPS a grenade must be well-placed AND well timed but because you are a massive scrub, you only see it as a cheap kill and braindead. You also prefer JRPGs to RTS for similar reasons and cannot see how the element of real time augments the strategy instead of stripping it away.

Do you think all of the "compressed air" comes out of the top or something?

No, the whole grenade pops like a balloon, sending hot pieces of the metal casing flying everywhere.

Plus then you have to think how strong the shockwave of the explosion is if its able to pop a metal ball like a balloon.

>>384802694
Halo 4

>>384802293
Sudden acceleration has some nasty effects on things like us

Also it's definitely summer isn't it?

>>384802293
The shockwave is enough to liquify you within 10 feet; the shrapnel will rip you apart for good measure.

Best case scenario your eardrums rupture.

They seem awful hard to get for something so harmless.

>>384802293
Why don't you lay on top of one to find out?

How the fuck are grenades deadly?

All they do is release small metallic and ceramic projectiles each with hundreds or thousands of joules of impact energy.

how do they put heat in the grenades

how did they do it in the start vs modern times

>>384802694
They're good in STALKER as long as you use F1s, they actually release shrapnel that can ricochet around small rooms.

>>384802694
Resistance.

>>384802293
inject air on your veins, post results, it can't hurt, can it? it's just air!

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nukes are just really big grenades what harm could they do

>>384802694
CoD 4

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>>384802816
Unless you put a suppressor on it

>>384802698
>well placed and timed
>Just throw a grenade towards the enemy and get a kill
Very rarely are grenades using strategically because they're so easy to use and the destruction they cause is immense. There's little need to think when you throw a grenade. Hell, because it'd a video game you can throw the grenade the moment you spawn at certain points and get kills since there's certain pathways you have to go through to advance.

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>>384802936
because gunpowder combusts jesus fuck

>>384802698
>You also prefer JRPGs to RTS for similar reasons and cannot see how the element of real time augments the strategy instead of stripping it away.
I never said I prefer RTS games to JRPG. Let me guess, the phrase SRPG automatically makes you think JRPG, even though there are metric shit tons of western SRPGs.

>>384803037
truly a weapon to surpass metal gear

>>384802694
Dirty bomb has a great cooking the grenade mechanism for fragger

firebombs full of oil are much better weapon because they actually do something

>>384803117
Maybe your problem is that you're playing Call of Duty. Did you consider that? Even then the problem isn't grenades it's the spawning system working that way.

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>>384802293
the WW2 german grenade actually does that
not compressed air but no shrapnel

>>384803117
see
>>384803185

>throw frag grenade
>explodes in a firey explosion
>>384803150

>>384803143
Jagged Alliance? X-COM? First two that come to mind when talking RPG and grenades.

>>384803037
Suppressed grenades are band by the Geneva convention

>>384803134

so do all grenades have an explosive powder ignition in them

what happens when you pull the pin how does it make the grenade want to explode

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>>384803117
What they're used in real life is to flush out an enemy from position/blow him up in a confined space.
Does it pretty well in most vidya.

>>384803432

I know you're just bumping the thread, but you can Google this.

>>384803432
There's a fuse inside that burns towards the space containing the assplode.

>>384803432
Theres either a chemical compound that gets ignited and then ignites the explosives or something like a bolt attached to a spring that hits the explosives after its released.

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>Throw a grenade in F.E.A.R
>Shoot it in midair

>>384803432
There's a lighter inside. That's what the handle does, it flicks open the lighter, and the lighter lights a fuse.

>>384803143
You're not denying it

>>384803306
Theres also Breach, Silent Storm, 7.62 High Caliber, and Brotherhood of steel.

>>384802530
>How come strateg/srpgs do grenades better than FPS games?
>Top down group control game
>Nade kills unit
>Move other unit to deal with it
>FPS
>Nade kills unit/YOU
>Dead, out of the fun, game becomes a clusterfuck of shitties throwing nades in high traffic areas.

>>384803432
all the pin does is hold the spoon in place, its only once you throw it that the spoon can come free and light the fuse

>>384802938
Dude I love using grenades on that bandit camp near Bes and company. Especially the first time you're there.

>>384803607
>Sends shit in the environment flying everywhere, causes light fixtures to swing

Why are games shit now

>>384803295
>count-down mechanism makes grenades more strategic
You could always do it mentally. Having a visual cue just makes it easier to use.

>>384803474
The problem arises when vidya games force you to use these confined spaces and your enemy constantly spawns with grenades. There's nothing tactical about them. You just throw them where people bunch up and move on. I would love it if we moved away from frag grenades and focused more on tactical ones like flash and smoke grenades or at least made them more limited. It was one of my biggest gripes back when I used to play CoD. I don't have a problem with them in RO2 for some reason. Even the hand mortars don't feel as bad as grenades in modern FPS

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>>384803721
Mate, That's how they work in real life, nobody listens to the dipshit officers and nobody actually ever sees the enemy. Combat is a clusterfuck.

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>>384802972
Except nukes are radioactive, moron.

They're basically nuclear power plants that produce explosions instead of electricity.

Read up what Chernobyl and Fukushima did and you'll understand why shouldn't manmade elements be used ever.

>>384803134
Thumbnail looks like Naruto and Sasuke

>>384803772
KOMRID I HEFF COOL GUN ONLY TEN KREDIT

I LIED FUCK YOU

Throwing a grenade into the campfire they were gathered around was cathartic

>>384803989
Only difference is that grenades are in limited supply in real life but when someone respawns they have 1-3 of them so when they come back they empty out their stock and repeat for every single person.

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>>384804064
>>384803134

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>>384803918
Shit I don't even use frags. Smoke up the same closed space and watch tards pour through the smoke thinking its safe because its "smoked".
Learn this boyos and learn it well:
Smoke goes ON THE ENEMY.

>>384804002
Yeah but that just makes them big green grenades what's the problem here

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>>384803701
Any of those allow for character creation like JA2's IMP?

>>384803249
Akshuly it's not just that one grenade.
In general, attack/assault (not sure what's their name in English) grenades don't release shrapnel, because they're used from position without cover.
They're only really effective in enclosed spaces and have relatively tiny blast radius.

The defensive ones have shrapnel and can kill at 100 meters.

>>384804176
Well can't argue with that.

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>>384803607
>Not jump-kicking it
You're a little baby.

>>384804459
I have never actually tried that

>>384804558
Gotta go fast. Either way FEAR had some of the best combat in a FPS, ever.

>>384804735
I wish there was some score attack mod for it

>>384803523

no i'm genuinely curious as to how grenades work, FAGGOT.

Is OP actually retarded or just pretending?

>>384804839
so what did you learn?

nb

>>384802694
Original Killzone.

>>384802694
Halo 1-3 still have the best and most satisfying grenades of any shooter I've played.

Frag grenade kills in Halo are just so gratifying.

>>384802293

Even just getting hit by shrapnel from grenades can destroy organs in milliseconds so yeah you'd likely die.

>>384805082
just wear clothes and they bounce off

What games have the best missiles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjN3UclYzU

>>384804943

grenades blow up and stuff

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>>384802694
The gears of war series. Slapping a grenade onto someone's shoulder is always entertaining.

>>384802694
Rainbow Six Vegas
Absolutely huge AoE and a guaranteed instant kill. Literally everyone banned grenades in that game.

>>384802293
holy mother of underages

>>384804002
You know that Hiroshima was inhabitable after a few months, right? People live there now.

For all intents and purposes they're just bombs. Radioactivity only really comes to play if

1. You have urban centers to the east (general wind direction on the planet) which was fortunately not the case in Japan

2. You are talking about a Nuclear War scenario

>>384802694
r6s

>>384802694
Team Fortress Classic
Half-life 2 Deathmatch

>>384806093
They're trash there, ain't even time to use them properly.

>>384805060
Nadeshotting is a gift. Feels TOO good.

>>384802694
Insurgency

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If you die to a grenade, you're basically a faggot retard (ie. American). Just jump on it with your backpack on top of it and you're 100% safe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Croucher

>>384804002
>nukes are basically nuclear power plants
You either know nothing about nukes or nuclear plnts or both.

>>384807169
>backpack
A fat fucking stuffed to maximum capacity rucksack and he still came out of it with shrapnel embedded in his armor and perforated eardrums.

>>384804002
Radiation is the least of your problems if a nuke explodes nearby. And definitely not what kills you.
The only exception to this is a dirty bomb.

>>384802530
Starlight Glimmer did nothing wrong.

>>384803414
Yeah, I heard Suppressed Grenades the last time I went to the Geneva convention. They were ok I but I like their earlier stuff more

>>384807904
Dirty bomb doesn't even have to be a nuke, just any explosive with radioractive goop all over it.

The shockwave from explosives is enough to fuck up your insides and kill you. Also hot metal shrapnel piercing through your body is probably not fun either.

Explosives are deadly as hell man. You ever see bomb squad suits? You look like a damn stuffed plushie toy in those things and strong explosives are still enough to kill you even through all that padding.

>>384807361
Yeah, people just protest them because they're worried about "MUH CHILLUNZ", what silly folks, am I right /s

>>384802694
Fractured
Really shitty game tho

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>>384803432
Pulling the pin doesn't actually make the grenade explode. The pin keeps the lever in place. When you take the pin out, then the lever is no longer attached, meaning that it will fall off when you throw it. The lever falling off is what starts the fuse.

There is no such thing as "cooking" a grenade outside of videogames, unless you take off bot the pin AND the lever.

>>384802293
>/v/ is literally retarded

>>384803432
>>384802936
how is it possible to be this dumb?

>>384808629
This is actually pretty cool and makes me think about how stupid movies look when using grenades

>>384808629
So if you take he pin out but just leave it alone it won't explode?

>>384808629
Modern ones also have a safety clip on the spoon.

Thermite inside, as far as in games the fuses are longer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOSR6LFkUYo

fucking shockwaves

>>384808847
You need to hold the spoon on or the flapper on tap will hit the fuse.
I almost had one blow up in my hand because the spoon was coming off but I couldn't feel it because my hands were froze

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>>384802694
Ratchet and clank ACIT because you could customise them
>Barrage+Skyburst+Proximity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDoqMPcyDN4

>>384808747

you tell me you faggot

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>>384802694
TF2

>>384807361
But that's correct.
A nuke is a nuclear power plant that runs on a much more enriched fuel and forgoes stuff like control rods, cooling loops, turbines, any sort of safety to stop it from vaporizing itself in a runaway reaction...

>>384808847
Nope. The fuse time is always 5 seconds after you throw it, as long as you hold the lever.

>>384808182
Went to see them once, but I couldn't hear a fucking thing. Shit gig.

Isn't it time to replace the M67? Its been in service a real long time now

>>384802972
Nukes aren't real

>>384809335
What could they really do with a brand new grenade anyway? besides it just werks. in this day and age they would fuck it up somehow and have nades going off carrying them.

>>384802938
Seconding this, Escape from Tarkov too, F1s can perforate you at 25+ meters just like real life, shit happens. They have a 100% kill in a 25meter radius, and it slowly diminishes up to 100m, F1s are used from trenches to stop enemy charges and aren't used to clear rooms because they're too powerful. RG5s have a 10-15m killzone and they're attack grenades, used to clear rooms. STALKER's grenade launchers do a good job too, but not the RPG strangely.

>>384809335
why replace something that works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlgsmZHVXt4

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>>384808182
took me a second

>>384809197
>The fuse time is always 5 seconds after you throw it

Haha, don't ever count on that can be 4 or even 3 in some

>>384809335
It could have a little more boom

dunno got to throw grenade once. it was pretty big bang. probably would've died if i were next to it.

Unless you want to die, never EVER cook a grenade in real life

>>384809630
>>384809587
Just because it works doesn't mean its beyond replacing, with modern engineering, materials, and chemicals they could do all sorts of shit. Like making the blast more directional.

>>384809893
Excellent analysis anon.

>>384802293
hahahaha

>>384808629
>pull pin
>release handle
>fuse starts
>wait
>throw grenade

you can definitely cook a grenade in real life you fucking fat armchair /k/ommando

>>384802694
I remember Perfect Dark's secondary mode for grenades which was basically "kill yourself" mode. The neutron bombs were a lot of fun though.

>>384805082
not if you build up some resistance first

>>384810194
>unless you take off both the pin AND the lever.

Read the post next time

>>384810194
Anybody that was in any branch of the military would know you do not cook grenades, the fuses are not an exact science.
If you're feeling hardcore and lucky, go for it.

>>384810361
>there's no such thing
>unless you do the thing that allows it

wow great literacy you have you fucking fat retard lmao

>>384810015
thanks mate. you don't have to be an astrophysicist to figure out that something probably would've killed you.

>>384810395
>tfw first grenade experience
>attach fuse to grenade and carry it to the range
>palms are sweaty
>shit nigga imma die today

>>384810194
>release spoon
>fuse isn't exact
>grenade goes off in hand because you're a retard

heres an internet classic of a russian kid with a grenade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkxlduIH3I4

>>384810443
Just accept when you're wrong about something.

>>384810571
punished cheeki

former breeki

>>384810549
Scared me at first too. I wanted to see my first grenade land and explode, but drill sergeant slammed me to the ground with one arm, then boom

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>compressed air and shrapnel
Look /v/... I know many of us are quite stupid when it comes to these things since we spend so much time on videogames, but you do have enough mind to understand that it's not air or shrapnel that kill a person.
It's the physical force of a sudden chemical reaction that is enough to damage all the inner organs and tear of limbs.
Shrapnel is more of a by product.

This thread is >>>/k/

>>384811005
>that weakass throw
white """people""" everyone, was it a King he'd have thrown it strong and precise enough to nail the enemy square in the mouth

>>384811445
>chinks
>white

>>384810194
"5 second fuze means 3 second fuze"

You really wanna hold a hot potato capable of decimating your entire squad instead of throwing that shit right the fuck away you fucking retard. All it takes is a few milimeters of fuse misalignment at the factory, you don't play with that. Oldie type ww2 grenades with smokey fuses could've been coocked but shit's too risky to do.

Also most people don't return grenades, you see it a lot in games/movies because it's the heroic thing to do, most of the time you can't notice someone threw one in, they aren't exactly loud as gunfire is (CoD MW1 has you clearly hear a nade landing).

>>384811445
>>>>>>white

>>384811501
Doesn't take away the fact that a African King would have done miles better than some random cumskin

>>384811651
but it's not spear-shaped chocolate-kun

>>384811651
>>384811445
Would probably look like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC36u2xha5Y

>>384811584
>Oldie type ww2 grenades with smokey fuses could've been coocked but shit's too risky to do
What do you mean by this? Were they somehow easier to keep in hand for a moment than modern grenades?

>>384811974
German grenades could've, I might be talking out of my ass but I think they've had longer fuses and they smoked up. Maybe some old-ass russian nades too. The smoke's a dead giveaway that your grenades ready to throw, you could take an extra second. Modern nades have chemical igniters that don't smoke they just explode after a spring slowly allows the two chemicals connect.

It's hella more risky holding something that you're not sure is armed. You could try cooking any nade but it's your and your friends lives on the line, very bad.

>>384811951
Oh my, I hope those guys are going to work in the Army post office or something, if they're combat arms MOS I'll lose my shit

>>384812427
You sure those weren't the anti tank sticky bombs?

>>384812506
probably something along these lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwNUMM4iRb0

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>>384802293

>>384812558
not sure

>>384812673
I saw that before, again hopefully they are supply clerks or something.
Obviously their first getting mortared, after a while you know when your safe or not, a few months of that and they'll be laughing at that situation