The Great Debate

>>384801570
I'd be Horde again if I knew a good raiding server that wans't full of chinks like Illidan-US

>>384801570
Horde have goblins, so them.

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>>384801721
this

>>384801570
At this moment only Alliance makes sense. Horde shouldn't even be together at this point is kept alive only because game requires it to be.
Why are Undead still in the Horde? Taurens should honestly just join the Alliance already, they fit there more. Blood Elves kinda too. It's a total mess.

>>384801721
femgobbos are perfect

>>384801649
just get the Chinese blocker addon theres plenty of raiding
t. illidan US raider

>>384801865
>Why are Undead still in the Horde?
Because the moment the leave the horde you're going to see a massive army of humans led by Greymane outside UC.

>>384801570
I've been a alliance fag since Warcraft 2 fuck green skins. but Tauren are pretty cool though

>>384801865
>Why are Undead still in the Horde?
Well, their queen is sort of the warchief now.

>>384802000
So, the problem solved itself, right? If the Horde throws the Forsaken to the dogs (literally) they won't have to worry about the rotting corpses retaliating, since Sylvanas and her ilk would be decimated.

Childhood is idolizing the horde, adulthood is realizing that other games make more sense.

>>384802296
Is not like they have a problem with them so no there is not problem to solve I guess.

>>384801570
Alliance to the end
fWoW was never good and fuck Hearthstone

Always Horde, better ideaology, Orcs LITERALLY dindu nuffin, and glorious Troll master race

>>384801570
I want to like the Alliance but my experience is that people who play Alliance are stupid as shit.

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>>384802457
>Glorious troll master race
Good taste, brudah

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The Horde because Orc cock is the best and Tauren isn't far behind it. All the Alliance really have are Worgen and they mostly stink.

>>384802559
both sides have a massive amount of retards

>>384802457
What is their ideology, exactly?

>>384802664
>gay horde

I hate you guys.

>>384802394
I'm pretty sure the only reason anyone on the Horde even tolerates the Forsaken is out of fear of the plague. I'd bet most non-undead on the Horde would gladly stamp them out for good if given the chance.

>>384802727

Not being racist cunts like the Alliance, honor and strength, etc.

>>384801570
The game is shit.

>>384802815

Alright the futa Draenei are pretty good too but they don't make up for all the night elves, midgets and yawn, humans.

>>384802727
Honor, tolerance and representative democracy, ironically enough

>>384802927
>Not being racist cunts like the Alliance
Ah, so you're just an idiot. Gotcha.

>>384802904
Not really especially now that Sylvanas saved all the fucking race leaders.

are these new cardbacks or whats the deal? they dont have the hearthstone symbol like every other cardback

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undead is objectively the best race in WoW debate me

>>384803243

I'd agree if their models weren't so shit. Give me back my skeleton face.

>>384803243
>hunchbacks

nope

>>384802727
spikes

>>384803303
>>384803303
WoW dosent exist past 3.5.5 so ur good.

>>384803130
Since the beginning of the game the Forsaken have been plague and genocide obsessed fanatics. For some reason in recent years, Blizzard has felt the need to make them out to be good guys despite that being the exact opposite of what they've always been. Just more shitty Blizzard writing undermining everything they've built up, I guess.

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>>384803471
I miss when the Forsaken were allies with the Horde by virtue of
>Gee I'm glad those guys are on OUR side
Using lethal plagues in situations where it doesn't call for it, stitching together groups of slain soldiers, what the forsaken did was grotesque and it was supposed to be. In the recent expansions, I feel like that's been lost.
It definitely took me out of it when, in Pandaland, nobody in the Forsaken was like
>Fuck this gay island have some plague

>>384803510
>they look like shit is not an argument

oh the irony your meme pic is not an argument.

>>384803007
>representative democracy
What? Is this some new development? I haven't played WoW since Pandas and I've never heard anything about this.

>>384803642
>they look like shit
As apposed to what? inb4 night elf or blood elf.

>>384802457
>Troll master race
>Have been absolutely shit slapped up and down the continent expansion after expansion

Horde BTFO badly

There're no mob civilization or culture who would able to compete with Alliance. Gnolls and Furbolg bow to Humans and Elves. Even Togs and cuckedGnomes are parasites at their best.

On other side we've got HoRdE. Lame. Undeads just sucks, Scourge, Scarlet Crusade and Werewold keep Undead in fear.
But more funny that Centaurs and Quilboars have a comparable culture development to Taurens and Orcs. Troll are just a mobs themselves.

A few races were added In expansions: Belves - cucked ottoman pussies, goblins - greedy brooklyn kikes, Draenei - mysterious alien race, involved in creation of Burning Legion, Worgens - pre-industial British.

Not Even a Competition!

ps Pandaren are good tho
pps jk, there aint

>>384803748
Everything but orcs and trolls look just as bad as they do.

>>384803619
I feel ya. I was never a huge fan of the forsaken but I respected what they stood for. Now they just seem like a generic race with an undead motif rather than powerful, unique and terrifying like they once were. I really hate it when Blizzard destroys their own creations with their shit-tier writing.

>>384801807
swords too detailed compared to outfit/10

>>384803936
The sword are new the rest of the outfit is old as fuck.

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>>384801570
Horde for PvP
Alliance for PvE
Horde for tryhards
Alliance for scrubs and 12 year olds.

Never understood the appeal of Horde, they look like shit and cities are just a load of fucking mudhuts.

>>384803849
Trolls are hunchback as well.

Why are elves the only good looking races but they're so shit?

>>384803243
>Hunchbacks
>Have exposed bones, armour doesn't cover them
I do like the whole plague thing and the town aeshetic but other than that, they have a shit design

>>384804105
>only ilvl 855
>thinks his opinion matters

my sides

>>384804151
muh noble savages and edgelords

>>384804105
>Horde
>PvP

I wish. I jumped back on Legion H side for some easy wins and honor, end up losing about 80% of my games. Back in Cata you couldn't get an Ally victory in Battlegrounds even with a stack. What the fuck happened?

>>384804105
Also
alliance for GUURRRRLL GAYYYMERRSSS

>>384804443
>What the fuck happened?
Blizzard removed will of the forsaken because it was too op but they give the same spell to humans so all the pvp tryhards move to the alliance.

>>384804151
all the alliance races are something faggots would pick
horde had the actually cool ones and had much better map design except thunderbluff

Both are more or less the same in terms of player attitudes
I think if I could just have a faction of Dwarves and Trolls I'd play that

Human > Orc
Dwarf > Troll
NElf < BElf
Gnome < Goblin
Horsecock > Tauren
Worgen > Undead
Panda = Panda
Decisive alliance victory.

>>384802169
everytime I remember this Im reminded how irredeemably shit wow lore is

>>384804739
>Worgen > Undead
This one is a tie both of them are pure shit.

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>>384801570
Alliance have Night Elf Women. While Orc and Goblin women are only a tier below them, it's still a fairly big gap. As such, the Alliance is superior.

>>384804105
>Alliance for scrubs
Am scrub can confirm.

>>384804445
Blood Elves are just as bad for attracting mongs.

Has the NA raiding scene ever been this dead before?
>Easy
>Honestly
>Alacrity
Literally fucking who?

>>384804828
I would agree if we had the aesthetic Chinese undead models, but as it stands only YIFF IN HELLS can choose to just look British.

>>384804105
Nice phone pic

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>>384804739
>NElf < BElf
How is it possible to be so wrong?

>>384804892
>that guild streaming pilot carries

lmao

>>384804739
human < orc
dwarf < troll by a mile
nelf = belf both are huge faggots
gnome < goblin
space goat < land cow
furshitter < forsaken by a bigger mile
panda is everyones loss
Dwarves are cool but they aint got shit on trolls and all the other races are shit

>>384803471
you're describing basically the opposite of what happened
>vanilla had a few experiments on living subjects
>a few hints of RAS treachery
>forsaken moved on ambermill because daralan moved in to reactivate the dormant leyline node, a move the forsaken considered hostile
>horde PC ordered into the dalaran internment camp because several forsaken stole probably old god related artifacts from Sylvanas and defected
>Tarren Mill retaliates after hillsbrad strikes first
>Varimathras orders the Arathi Basin campaign (still forsaken, but it should be noted the dreadlord modus operandi is to make two enemies fight each other)
Basically slightly antagonistic, but mostly defensive
>Nowhere to be seen in BC
>Wrath has the RAS betrayal before the forsaken are dropped completely
Revenge against Arthas was their entire point of existence and it got shelved in favor of paladins and death knights
>cataclysm completely destroys their identity with the "lol we were mad at arthas for making us undead, but lets take these valkyr and make some undead," so the alliance could fight them while still pretending to be as pure as the fresh driven snow

And now we have Varimathras' new taunts, which may just be the empty taunts of a dreadlord, but to me feel like Sylv is next to be thrown to the lions.
Not that I was ever particularly fond of her, but we JUST dealt with Garrosh, and JUST had Vol'jin's shit death. I expected a break from them shitting on horde before dealing with her

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>>384804865
Why didn't they give Tyrande her old armor from WC3/HoTS? She still dresses like a prude.

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>>384805086
just buy the skin goyim

I wish I could enjoy Horde, but I just can't get over how much better it feels to play Alliance. The nobility of the humans, the ancient mystique of the elves, and the ETERNAL DORF really touches me.

Trolls, tauren, and undead are so cool but it's hard to fight on the side of the nigger orcs, and have to deal with shitty Orgrimmar and all of their dry, rocky zones.

I'm starting a new character right now
What race, what class

>>384805223
female draenei holy priest

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>>384801865
>>Taurens should honestly just join the Alliance already
Yes, after they burned down one of their villages, killed their civilians, and the Dwarves literally cannot stop themselves from destroying their land for "archaeology reasons"

Both sides are equally bad and incompetent.

>>384805223
Femgnome rogue

>>384805086
She still has the best armored skin in the game.
>>384805223
Female Night Elf Warrior

>>384804984
Everyone on Alliance would drop them instantly if HElves got added. You know it to be true.

>>384805031
Someone clearly drank the red 'water'.
>captcha CLOSE CALLE

>>384805086
>Why is she wearing a swimsuit, daddy?
>I don't know, sweetheart.

Pandass is made for human dick

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>>384805358
>Implying humans can even compete

>>384805270
>Villages and Civilians
Daelin's leftover men. Alliance only in name, and slaughtered as such.
>Dwarves
Goblins are literally twenty times worse, to the point where I'm surprised Tauren tolerate them at all.
At the very least, they could form a peace treaty with the NElves, which would lead to better discussions with other Alliance races.

>>384801570
I honestly wish both factions would crumble and smaller, more diverse factions would become the norm; ones that are less cliche and have their own wants and needs.

To add to that, I'd like to see the space-faring (?) Legion fall apart and introduce new races and places to the already split and diversified Azeroth.

>>384805607
>Daelin's leftover men
Not really it was the stormwind army in taurajo not the old kultirians.

>>384805614
I've always wanted to see Kobolds, Naga, and Ogres incorporated as their own Monster faction.

>>384805607
I get that Baine said Taurajo was a legitimate military target, but why does it not "count"? Is it really that hard for people to believe that the Alliance can do something equally as wrong? It's not all black and white you know.

>>384805175
>>384805305
>>384805352
I meant why doesn't she look like this in Legion.

>>384805614
>No TTRPG Era open world Dungeon Siege clone where you can get all kinds of different party members from both factions and beyond, with Diablo-esque random dungeons coupled with massive canon dungeons
Blizzard pls.

>>384805764
>no quilboar
>no gnolls
Honestly with how they're trying to push a super duper serious story I don't see how any of the smaller races would fit in.

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>>384804739
Generic self insert = Generic fantasy
Dude, ale, LMAO = Dude, mojo, LMAO
Sluts = Sluts
Short engineers = Short engineers
Alien horsecock = Native horsecock
Furry special snowflake = Undead special snowflake
Pandas were a mistake.

>>384805935
>Quillboar, Gnomes, Kobolds, Naga and Ogres ally to create a new faction
Things I want but will never have.

>>384805935
WoW having a super duper serious story is honestly so fucking boring, and this is coming from a WoW veteran of 10 years. MoP had the best balance.

>>384805967
>magatha is a shaman follower

are shamans the cucks of azeroth? I say yes.

>>384806070
>MoP had the best balance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSC69eLjk28
This dialogue is so hammy but they're trying to make it seem serious at the same time.

>>384802296
>since Sylvanas and her ilk would be decimated.
only 10% of them would be killed?

>have to be familiar with pretty much everything available to see that the Barrens invasion was the first act of the Cata-Mists war
>Nuh uh, it was Garrosh

>Sha corrupted orcs who apparently had fel artifacts despite being an average patrol boat and garosh hating warlocks kidnap pandaren children and use them to extort supplies from the pandaren
>Sha corrupted humans have pandaren "volunteers" that the horde player must "convince to leave" and mention in passing they were given no breaks or water

>Alliance attack Horde unprovoked in Stormheim
>b-but broken shore, b-but dreadlords were feeding anduin bad intel

Why does blizz always bend over backwards to hide Alliance's shady shit?

>>384805817
Alliance players will deny anything that might give them a bad name. They think they can literally do no wrong

>>384805607
>and slaughtered as such
I've seen this once before and I assume it was you then too because its pretty wrong. The alliance player doesn't kill them, they arrest them, and not for attacking Camp T but for looting the remains.

>>384805764
That'd be neat, but I was thinking factions that are less stereotypical and more purpose-based. Like a faction of pirates that could include any race that would be down for it. The best example I can think of is the Twilight's Hammer. I could be wrong, but they seem like the most diverse faction in the entire game and I think that's cool. You've got these shitheads in the Horde and Alliance fighting over old shit and meanwhile a bunch of fucking cultists were able to establish peace among its various members and get shit done.

Order Halls kind of got my dick a little hard because it got close to the idea of throwing away Horde vs. Alliance squabbles. But of course, Order Halls were hot fucking garbage except for DKs. Everyone else got pushed into some bullshit CLASSFANTASY like Warriors or just had the most boring stories ever.

>play male belf warrior
>all my friends hate me for not going rdps or priest
Feels good

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>>384806307
Considering that Baine got cut out of Highmountain because of Alliance whining about being "forced" to help a Horde character, it's quite obvious that they intend to pander to them from now on. Without Metzen, the Horde will fall farther and farther into irrelevancy, and the only participating groups will be Sylvanas. After all, only Orcs, Elves, and Humans are allowed to do anything.

>>384805817
There's some untouched notes that the Alliance soldiers that attacked Taurajo were leftover soldiers still loyal to Daelin pulling a couple of strings in the military. If I remember right, they were left out to dry by Theramore and most were killed.
>>384806307
First act of the Cata-Mists War was the Ashenvale Campaign, which Garrosh launched with fairly notable results. Wolfheart covers it, considering the only major open conflict was a single battle on the Eastern Shore.
>>384806457
Shit really? I always heard that Horde Players didn't just rout them, but openly killed most all of them. I haven't levelled through Kalimdor in awhile.

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>>384805967
>yfw the alliance parallel for Cairne was Fandral
>a beloved faction leader vs a douchebag secondary leader who was obviously a bad guy all along

Aliance is more based.

>>384806742
>Fandral
>An Alliance character
Cenarion Circle
The Alliance doesn't have anyone they can compare to Cairne I don't think

>>384806946
>one of the leader of the nelves in vanilla is not an alliance character

>>384806730
>First act of the Cata-Mists War was the Ashenvale Campaign,...
Goblins and Worgen were present at that point, which means it was after the cataclysm, which means it was after the barrens invasion. The only way the timeline works is Barrens invasion -> Gilneas -> Wolfheart -> rest of cata questing
>>384806730
>Shit really? I always heard that Horde Players...
Well yeah, horde players kill them. I assume you meant alliance questing since horde would kill them regardless of who they were after destroying a horde town. The alliance reaction is what would determine who/why they attacked

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>>384801570
the spirit of the Horde died with Garrosh. Loktar'ogar

the spirit of The Alliance grow from king Varian's death and lives on in Anduin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjeNWDsszw

>>384807335
Garrosh lives on in HotS.

>>384807335
Not to mention Anduin is about to become a paladin.

>>384807464
In around 2 weeks.

>>384806946
>Cairne
>founding member of Horde
>removed offscreen
>has an important son that never gets lore

>Magni
>founding member of Alliance
>removed offscreen
>has an important daughter that never gets lore

>>384805992
People who take the game too seriously when it comes to race in a fantasy universe should be stoned

>>384807562
Magni is kinda relevant in legion now that he is the speaker.

>>384806742
>Fandrals gone and we're stuck with Malfurion 'Don't let my brother fuck my wife while I sleep' Stormrage
Can we just kill him off, retire Tyrande, and put Shandris in charge? Or maybe Jarod?
>>384807247
That's where the timeline goes screwy then, since Wolfheart is meant to cover the interlude between the Worgen fleeing Gilneas and joining the Alliance proper, considering Varian was vehemently against the furries getting in. The gap in game is basically non-existent, while in lore it takes notably longer.

>>384807562
The difference being Magni is in Legion.

>>384807562
>Cairne
>dead
>Fandral
>dead
>Thrall
>alive but no longer a faction leader
>Magni
>alive but no longer a faction leader

What's the best class to pvp with in legion? Hopefully wpvp in legion isn't as dead as I think it is.

>>384807738
Reminder that orcs genocided 80% of spacegoats and should be held accountable

>>384808069
nothing of value was lost

>>384807464
So HotS is the afterlife of blizz universe?
Do they enjoy the fights? Is there a reason for them?

>>384808161
It's like Valhalla for Blizzard characters.

>>384808069
>In game Blizz favors the Alliance to the point of making Sylvanus a borderline villain
>Lore Blizz favors the Horde to the point where Velen say the Orcs did nothing wrong, and Alexstrasza would actually agree to apologize to the Orc who HAD HER RAPED UNDER THREAT OF MURDERING HER CHILDREN
>>384808161
Kinda sorta.
>Do they enjoy the fights
Most of them do.
>Is there a reason for them?
Uther literally tells players "It's best you don't think too hard about that." in the tutorial.

If I get playable Naga I'll resub without a second thought, even if they're on Alliance despite that making no sense.

>>384804314
>doesnt realize he has rag's hammer equipped, which is why his ilevel is so low

>>384808559
BUT NAGAS CANT RIDE MOUNTS ANON

Lore wise the alliance is pol. The alliance are very racist mostly dwarfs and humans. Lore wise I bet the humans don't even respect gnomes

Lore wise the horde is the only choice. Blood elfs were even considering going back when they saw the same racism in garrosh.

Should I change my Tauren Shammy into a Troll? I've already got a Troll Druid but Trolls seem really appealing to me right now.

>>384808865
> Lore wise I bet the humans don't even respect gnomes

Lore wise you're wrong.

>>384808559
Alliance will never take naga. Worgens which were human was already stretchin it.

>>384808865
You double nigger, even the Nelves respect the Gnomes, albeit they consider them a bit weird.

>Thinking Blizz will ever add a new race/class again

>>384808651
This is the worst excuse to not add them in. If a fatass panda won't kill a chicken sitting on it a snake can wrap its tail around a horse or invent a clamp.

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>>384808616
His ilvl is 855 overall, 753 equipped.
Best to check yourself next time you post something that makes you look like a retard.

Alliance has dorfs
Horde has goblins

tough choice

>>384809504
Or they could do what the original plan for Tauren was and have them go mountless and just be able to go really really fast.

>>384808408
Well honestly if the fucking dreanei were more responsible for the damage they caused landing on draenor the orcs would still be b peaceful fuckers.

They left a fucking dead naaru spreadING void that was talking to the orcs which led to the Legion using that void to manipulate the orcs.

They did nothing wrong.

Alliance has the wheat
Horde has the meat

>>384809656
I remember some alliance players getting assblasted when they gave plainsrunning to worgen because of muh achievements

>>384808870
Trolls best race, make a Tauren warrior or paladin though as they're awesome in those roles. Especially the Sunwalker Kodo while wielding that Tauren themed mace.

>>384809202
Night elfs are no longer written as racist. They were in war craft 3 but they changed in wow.

Humans and dwarfs are very different.

>>384801570
Ally is full of children
Horde is full of manchildren
take your pick

>>384809565
Asmongold is that you?

>>384809603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rcbXiHHeAc

>>384809872
I've got an Orc warrior.

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>>384804105
>alliance for 12 year olds

This meme needs to end, there's an equal amount of children on both sides.

t. someone who plays both factions

>>384809962
Used to be alliance in vanilla with a dwarf warrior.

Towards end of vanilla to now I went horde. Never looked back.

If horde had dwarfs the alliance will have nothing of value.

I droped in EN. What happened lore wise after that?

Sylvanas died again? Greymane?

>>384804443
You are most likely the problem

>>384804515
That happened at the start of wrath through

>>384801570
Back then horde but now they kind of have a shit leader and buildings kind of suck and mogs all kind of suck. So probably alliance now

>>384810773
yes and thats why all the pvp players are alliance since then

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>Nelfs make cock rock hard
>Friends all play horde

Why blizzard. Belfs arent the same

>>384810849
Got even worse in warlords. Go human for arena or get cucked.

Imagine your racial was a huge ass dps cooldown.

Well the pvp director left a few months ago. Forums said good fucking riddance.

>>384810337
>Used to be alliance in vanilla with a dwarf warrior
I never believe people who say this. Assuming you played vanilla when you were under 18, what kid wants to play an ugly midget?

>>384811242

Just make a character on moonguard to fuck Nelfs, anon

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>>384811242
>Tfw I'm in this exact situation too
Seriously debating just saying fuck it and playing NElf.

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i'm Alliance


in my head eventually everybody is going to get along, humans will battle side by side with Orcs for the glory of all races, N-elf and B-elf hand in hand, etc

i hope one day everyone can come together under one banner and we can curbstomp demons together like one big disfunctional family
It happened before, we fight side by side at times, we even help each other when there is a threat great enough
we can do it!
it will beautiful.
imagine.

>>384811604
We were on the verge of that until Garrosh zogged everything up.

>>384811604
What's the point of the World of WARCRAFT then. You sound like a faggot.
P.S. Demons are getting old.

>>384811847
[Make Love, Not Warcraft]

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I'm going to be playing WoW until the day I fucking die. Fuck my life. It's just the best game to waste time in.

>>384811847
This. Make races want to kill each other like irl

>>384811604
What we need is good ol' fashioned, proper war that really gives the burning the legion the finger in favour of, y'know, the factions actually fighting eachother. You want PVE raids? Make it raids on capital cities or important enemy faction strongholds.

>>384811457
I did? My friend and I both played dwarf warriors. I even got the knight captain title on him for pvp.

Look up Darius on lightingsblade. He should be like level 62 maybe.

Why is it so hard to believe?

>>384812247
>Fuck you, Sargeras, we're gonna kill each other first!

>>384812373
Would make for a much more interesting storyline than the factions banding together for a common cause for the umpteenth time.

>>384803829
>But more funny that Centaurs and Quilboars have a comparable culture development to Taurens and Orcs.
So centaur nomad hut villages and those boar caves are comparable to Ogrimmar?

>>384806425
Alliance player here, just the /v/ alliance is like that, most of the normis that I play the game with agree that ex-king Varyan was doing both a good and a bad job, but at least he didn't put a raging lunatic as his replacement. I mean, the alliance aren't saints, not by a long shot, nefls are the biggest xenophobes out there, draenei literally helped the fel legion, humans dwarves and gnomes.... where do I even begin. But the fuck ups of the horde far outweigh the fuckups of the alliance.

>>384808651
>sneks can't rest their tails on a mount like a young maiden
>including the males
>especially the males

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>>384809875
>female dwarfs
T H I C C A N D B U S T Y
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>>384802296

the forsaken have people all over horde territories now, so if they did that there'd be nothing stopping sleeper agents from just releasing plague on horde settlements and then raising them. also UC is the only horde fortification in the eastern kingdoms outside of quel'thalas (which is out in bumfuck nowhere) so cutting it loose would essentially give the entire continent to the alliance. and the forsaken are basically the only reason the blood elves are even a part of the horde thanks to sylvanas, so if the forsaken go the blood elves will likely go with them.

besides the undercity is super fortified and underground so it's not like you can just waltz into it and take over the place. they can just plaguebomb the surface and kill everything.

Is WoW still good?
Is it as fun as runescape?
Graduating in two weeks and thinking about picking up an MMO, I've been playing OSRS since I was a little kid though

>>384804151

more interesting races. what does the alliance have?
>humans
>shorter humans
>even shorter humans
>humans that transform into furries
>elves
>spacegoats

only two slightly interesting races are nelves and draenei.

>>384814118
Ain't there tensions between Lor'themar and Sylvanas? I know the Forsaken helped them regain control of their lands, but they are still undead abominations

>>384814221
> I've been playing OSRS since I was a little kid though

Osrs has only been around for 4 years though. And no modern wow is like rs3, ruined

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Really wish I could play horde males and alliance sluts on the same side.

>>384814509

kinda. since she went off the deep end in cata/mop he's been wary of her desire to raise dead elves, but she's kinda-sorta agreed not to out of respect for the fallen since they are still her kin technically. but lorthemar doesn't really trust her.

Imagine if they disbanded both factions

>>384805270
>Both sides are equally bad and incompetent.
Orcs have tried to wipe out all life on azoreth multiple times, and WOD proved they'd still be just as violent even without demon blood so they have no excuse.

The forsaken have also tried to wipe out all life on azoreth, and are still trying even more, they openly express and demonstrate their efforts to do so at every opportunity yet nobody does anything about it because plot.

Trolls are cannibals, goblins are morally bankrupt. BE aren't that bad, and only Tauren are good.

For every bad thing the alliance does the horde has 100 worse examples. Nobody claims the alliance is perfect but saying "hurr both sides are just as bad" is retarded horde apologism.

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>>384815938
Goblins would be the FIRST to fall.
Followed by trolls soon after

Only alliance is stable long term

>>384811457
>what kid wants to play an ugly midget?
Ones who didn't take everything too seriously and weren't immature, stupid and obsessed with showing off and feeling badass?

The question is not horde or alliance.
The real question is Tyrande or Jaina

>>384803243
Top tier race for PvP because of WotF. Orcs are pretty good with their stun resistance though. Tauren shamans/druids can also sneak in a heal with warstomp.

Horde races are the best for PvP.

>>384816505
>Tyrande
made to be raped

>Jaina
made to be loved

>>384802169
She's literally the warchief because she's the franchise girl at this point and will be redeemed even from the most hideous acts and will be shoved down everybody's throat. The Kerrigan of WoW.

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This needs to be a monthly or weekly thing or something

>>384818453
Monthly seems alright

>>384817801
>The Kerrigan of WoW.
That would be Illidan.

>>384817801
It will probably turn out she was manipulated by the og the whole time

>>384811549
>tfw play on moon guard as my main server
>tfw in a raiding/ERP guild
>tfw get to fuck my guildies and GM on the side
Feels good senpai.

>not playing gnomes that were faction swapped to horde
This is the only way to play.

>hate playing edgy try hard bad guys in games
>find out all my friends are horde
>don't know shit about Warcraft figure I have to be an edgy try hard bad guy to play with my friends
>roll horde and get to 60
>along the way find out the horde are the good guys

Everything went better than expected

>>384814819
>taking a picture of your monitor and not taking a screenshot.
You need to leave you fucking normalfag.

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>>384817414
Jaina lusts for Big Green Cock

>>384821742
Pretending to be retarded is still being retarded.

>>384818453
>selfies
Fucking hell man I still remember the glory day's of Ulduar. What the fuck happened?

>>384822065
They became popular so a lot of games have them.

>>384821961
Well, she got cucked by Thrall and Garrosh pretty much killed all love for the green niggs that was left in her heart.

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>>384821961
She's all about the blue dragon cock. and study.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Jaina/Jaina%20-%20Default/Jaina_Pissed12.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Jaina/Jaina%20-%20Default/Jaina_Pissed13.mp3

Vanilla WoW was the best leveling experience I've had in an MMO. I liked GuildWars 2 leveling because there were fun places to explore and things like jumping puzzles to do. I tried Tera just the other day because I was looking for a fun MMO to try out but leveling is piss easy. Literally everything dies in one or two hits and there is zero challenge to be had.

Can anyone recommend an MMO with fun leveling? End game is irrelevant to me.

>>384823390
TESO, honestly.

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>>384804151
>implying
Thunder Bluff is the most aesthetic looking city in the whole game

>>384805270
The Nelves and the tauren should just have their druid faction with trolls and dogs.

>>384801570
Horde has the best husbandos so that one

>>384821697
>horde
>good guys
Compared to the legion maybe

>>384818453
Cooler than I expected. I like the theming when it pulls up players of the same race.

>>384806742
it was magni dumbass

>>384803007
>representative democracy

DA LOA SAY YOU BE DA NEW WARCHIEF SYLVANUS

>>384816805
>WotF
>Compared to the rogue/druid hosing power that is Perception in Aernas
>On top of +5 sword/mace skill, the two most common weapons used by the majority of physical characters

How does it feel to be so wrong, anon?

>>384808161
> Is there a reason for them?
Thrall explains it best.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Thrall/Thrall%20-%20Default/Thrall_Pissed14.mp3

>>384828334
>>384807738
try to keep up

Horde so I can chill out in Thunder Bluff.

It was always my favourite city.