Persona 5: when more is less – Reader’s Feature

>>384791926
So what the problem here?

Sum it up in three sentences or less.

>>384791926
>Mad 24/7 because Persona 5 is the best Atlus game and miles better than his favorite shitty obscured game
LMAO

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>Oh my gods, I love Persona 4 so much that if I ever have a daughter she’ll be called Chie or if it’s a son, well he’ll be called Teddie
I really don't want to keep reading.

Basically this article wants a more streamlined battle system aka to keep it as close to a VN as possible. Demon negotiations and added spell types and guns mix up the gameplay and having more options is not a bad thing.

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>>384792163
>Persona 5 best Atlus
???

>>384791926
How is it keep getting worse?

>>384792281
>Basically this article wants a more streamlined battle system aka to keep it as close to a VN as possible
???

>>384792296
Persona started with 3. The others were a test that failed.

>>384792281
P5 is already a cake walk but this guy is a P4 fan not surprised.

I really wanted P5 to have a less blank-slate protagonist. I'm really not a fan of this style of protagonist that never speaks, I know it works best for autists who self-insert (I know I did that because I was far more autistic when I played P3 and P4) but to me it's just immersion breaking.

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>I felt there was just too much, well… game.
When is this a bad thing for video games?

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>>384792471
Lel xDDD Futa is mi waifu compa I make meems on internets

>>384792618
But he is less blank-slate? He's an outcast for being perceived as a delinquent which affects how most view him or interact with him.

P4 fans being shitters as usual, although I guess they're entitled to their opinions.
They really should try playing mainline SMT though, what's wrong with demon negotiations?

>>384792697
When something is mediocre, more of the same grows tiring and stops being enjoyable.
Look at DS2 compared to BB. I platinumed BB in 70 hours, whilst it took me 140 hours to platinum DS2. I greatly preferred BB because it was good, and didn't overstay it's welcome. Could it have been longer? Sure - but the important thing is it didn't overstay it's welcome, like DS2.

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>Too many characters, too much group chat, too many locations, too many palaces, too many battle resistances, too many types of fusion,

The only thing I agree with here is there being too many group chats. Other than that there is literally nothing wrong with everything else and I do not THINK the game had significantly more or less characters than 4.

Though to be fair I think the scenes with SIU Director were fucking stupid. There is literally no reason as to why this character who doesn't even get the benefit of having an actual name gets so much fucking screentime.

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>>384792618
Self-inserts are only fine is they have goofy autism dialogue choices.

>>384792874
I'm a P4 fan, and I play mainline. Nice generalising.
P5 is the first time the series has actually felt it's aimed at young teenagers. The Persona series was always saimed at young teenagers, but it had the Pixar quality of also appealing to adults. This is not the case in P5. It's hamfisted, self-important with nothing of value to actually say. I could go on about how disappointing P5 is, but I won't waste both of our times. It's still better than EP and P1, but it's not the masterpiece I was led to expect.
There's nothing wrong with demon negotiations, some systems work better than others though. I personally really like Soul Hackers' system. The issue with P5's imo is that it requires you to down your enemies. The game is piss easy, so after the second dungeon or so you'll find that you will(nearly) kill all the enemies with your attacks quickly. This means you either don't get to negotiate at all, or else you only have one shot.
But why even exploit weaknesses? Why not use attack them until they talk to you? If you do this, it is no longer negotiation - the shadow does exactly what you tell them to. This is how almost all my 'negotiations' go - I attack with weapons or physical attacks (to breeze through the enemies) and I still get the benefit of 'negotiations'. Negotiations aren't really a thing in P5, or they easily don't have to be.

>>384792281
why don't we just remove combat?

that way we can get back to social linking

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>>384791926
>game has too much content

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>A fan of Persona 4

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>Fan of the worst Persona

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>Oh my gods, I love Persona 4
stopped reading there

>>384793715
>>384793857
>persona 4 fan
>scared of changes
Isn't that a sign of autism?

>>384792471
You idiot; thats Devil Summoner.

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>>384793857
They're clearly not a big P5 fan though.

>>384791926
>Oh my gods, I love Persona 4 so much that if I ever have a daughter she’ll be called Chie or if it’s a son, well he’ll be called Teddie.
Stopped reading right away.

The only positive here is that this person will never procreate.

>Persona 4 is my favorite

>love all the SMT games in general aside from DeSu because I don't like SRPGs

DDS is the second best

>>384792471
Yeah. It started with P3 and died after it.
P4 and P5 were shit.

P4 fans are to Persona what FF7 fans are to FF. I honestly didn't even like P4 that much because they went overboard with the comedy and shit.

P5>P3>P4

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>>384794515
>P3
>not shit
LOL.

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Theres a persona game for everyone.

>>384793857
>>384793715
>>384793938
>>384794515

>Newfags voicing their shit opinions

/v/ loved 4 from its release to about 2012 and I have no idea how you vermin came to be here.

>>384793538
>I'm a P4 fan
Stopped reading there. P4fags really are the niggers of the Persona franchise.

>/v/ hates Persona 4 now

Jesus Christ the userbase of this board has changed so drastically.

>>384794874
>Stopped reading there.
Stopped reading there.

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>>384791926
>oh my gods

>>384794812
>I have no idea how you vermin came to be here.
It's summer, and all the 15 year olds have come on.
P4 is still the only Persona game to have it's own banner, and Adachi is in another one.

>Persona fan hates on his own series
wtf kind of fan are you?

>But these weren’t the underlying issues, I felt there was just too much, well… game.

>Too many characters, too much group chat, too many locations, too many palaces, too many battle resistances, too many types of fusion, just too much. It’s almost like Atlus had extended the Persona 5 development time just so they could add more features, thinking: never mind the quality, just feel the width.

what a faggy fanboyish way to say persona has pacing issues, persona has always had pacing issues and no one will ever admit it because they are too busy which girl is the best waifu

Isn't it a bit late to run a smear campaign on P5? The game has been out a while now and was very successful. What's with these articles?

>>384791926
>A fan of Persona 4

Stopped reading right there. I'm guessing he's a VNfag that's mad he actually has to pick up the controller once and a while.

>>384791926
>That is all

Stopped reading right there.

NO ONE IS SAYING THAT WE HATE PERSONA 4. We are just saying that P4 is the worst in the series but it's still good. Not as good as 3 and 5. That's it. FACT.

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>>384794935
P4 haters are salty P5fags.
>P4 still regarded as the best Persona by the majority of fans.
>P4 still getting new stuff like Cross Tag Battle.

>>384795131
P4fags have always been retarded

>>384795131
Contrarianism nigga. How new are you?

>>384794976
>Stopped reading there.
Stopped reading there.

>>384793538
>The issue with P5's imo is that it requires you to down your enemies. The game is piss easy, so after the second dungeon or so you'll find that you will(nearly) kill all the enemies with your attacks quickly.
If that kept happening to you, either you were hella overleveled, or there's no way you were even coordinating your attacks so the demons wouldn't die.
>But why even exploit weaknesses?
Because it adds to the risk/reward factor? You can easily access negotiations after exploiting a weakness, but that doesn't prevent you from fucking up during the negotiation itself, in which case you've wasted SP you could've preserved dealing with the enemy normally.

>>384795131
>What's with these articles?
Have you never heard of a critical re-evaluation?
I suppose gaming news sites are now trying to join in with the change of consensus to games.

>>384794812
Maybe because for once, /v/ outgrew it's shit taste.

>>384795304
>P4 still getting new stuff like Cross Tag Battle.
>reusuign P4A assets is "new stuff"]
Sasuga. P4fags just continue to out themselves as retards.

>>384795359
Yeah youre a newfag. Nobody would ever actually say that about this board.

>>384795292
>Series only includes 3 and 5
>4 isn't as good as either of them
This is the state of /v/
Reminder: P4G > IS > FES > P5 > EP > P1
SMT II > I > SJ > Nocturne > IV:A > IV

I do dislike the way the dungeons work. They either had to have more or less stealth mechanics. Things like being able to vault over the small cover walls, or walk along the extended ones instead of teleporting from corner to corner would really improve the entire thing.

>>384795304
>P4 still regarded as the best Persona by the majority of fans.
General consensus was always between 2 or 3, and now 5 is a contender. The only people who regard Persona 4 as the best are people who have only played Persona 4.
>P4 still getting new stuff like Cross Tag Battle.
That's a sprite dump game. There's hardly any effort involved. ArcSys is just making use of resources they already had available to them.

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>>384795436
So how's that P5 fighting game coming along?
Oh, wait.

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It's good P5 is getting exposed now, the dust truly has settled.

Atlus have never made a good game.

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>P4fags and P5fags arguing

>>384795671
>General consensus was always between 2
You mean people who haven't played them? Because anyone who says '2' has not played either game. It is IS or EP. Not '2'. They are not one game.

>>384795581
You are retarded if you think anything is relevant except P5/P4G/P3P. Most of the games you talked about were played only by you. Persona is: 3-4-5, that's it. The order is: 5 > 3 > 4.

>>384795762
>game just game out
>expects spin offs that quickly
Looooool, how long was the time between p4 and p4a? Nothign personnel

>>384795794
>Atlus have never made a good game.
Fuck off, Fatlus reigns supreme

>>384791926
>Metro
>free overground news
Not even I would wipe my ass with that newspaper, why would you faggots care about that?

>>384795332

On fucking Metro? Who the fuck reads Metro for vidya james?

>>384795354

>Have you never heard of a critical re-evaluation?

Do you trust gaming news to do something like that out of reflection, and with such synchronism? It seems like the kind of shit some rival company would pay for.

Story: P3>P4>P5
Gameplay: P5>P4>P3
Persona 4 is an average game.

>>384795830
>P3P.
Your entire post is bait, but this is the strongest.

>>384794812
There was also a time when /v/ was able to openly discuss about CoD.

Does shitting on CoD means that you are a newfag?

He's not wrong though. It's articulated poorly but there's a lot of fucking padding.

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>>384795794
>Atlus have never made a good game.
This

>Persona 5 gets popular
>A new shit tier opinion every day from some publication or another

>>384795979
>Story: P3
You mean the game that has no story for 2/3's of the game (except 'kill big shadow' once a month) and once the story arrives (and is interesting) nothing happens for the rest of the game?

>>384796087
Except that's every persona game, anon. 3 just have more interesting characters.

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>>384791926
Reminder that 3 and IS are the only Persona games with good plots. The only thing P4 has going for it is Adachi, and all P5 has is it's protagonist.

Of course, gameplay wise P5 reigns supreme, but anyone playing Persona for the gameplay would be better off playing the rest of MegaTen.

>>384795979
The story of P3 wasn't all that great, with how cliche it was, although it benefited from a great ending. For me, it was all about the characters and mood.

>>384795930
Nope. Persona sucks ass. Why play persona when Yakuza exists anyways? It's a better tokyo simulator.

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>>384794812
It's almost as if 4 was babby's first Persona for a lot of people.

And saying "/v/ loved..." doesn't really mean shit. Lots of games enjoy a honeymoon period. Look at Mass Effect 2. It practically took over the board when it first came out. Where's that fanbase now? Those that didn't turn against the game completely apathetically evaporated. /v/ was even receptive to Skyrim when it first came out.

>>384796194
>The only thing P4 has going for it is Adachi, and all P5 has is it's protagonist.
If we're going to be that reductive, all P3 has going for it is its ending scene.

>>384796173
>Except that's every persona game
Not 4 though. Not even a P4fag but 4 had the most consistent story engagement, second is 5 with the beginning betrayal

>>384796194

>Leaving out EP
>Putting IS over EP
>Mentioning 3 at all

Jesus christ, how can someone be this wrong?

>>384796194
>P5 has is it's protagonist.

The fuck you mean? He's not even a proper character for you to act like anyone should care about him. Heck storywise he gets carried by his team mates anyways.

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>>384796346
I mean, I'm not saying P4 doesn't have things going for it, but none of those contributed to the story.

For example, it is 100% the best Chad Simulator on the market.

>>384795823
It's a two part narrative with the same characters and gameplay mechanics, you pedantic cocksucker.

>>384794812
This. It's the reason why I hate vg so much.

Old smt threads generated a lot of content, persona discussion was welcomed, p3/4 were both loved despite not being perfect, got people to play older games.

Post vg smt threads
>lmao fuck persona kid
>hoyposting
>smt1/2 and P1/2 are unplayable trash
>let's pretend Raidou 1 is teh best game ever despite having one of the worst combat systems in the series

>>384796468
Because the protagonist is the only character not made up of the components of other characters. He's not MC levels of well written (where MC 100% has a definitive character arc) but he's somehow the most interesting member of his cast.

Except for Yusuke, but he's flanderized to death anyways.

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>>384796468
>Not play Joker as sassy charismatic playa
baka senpai

>>384796375
EP is much worse than IS. The majority of the game is you waiting for Tatsuya to involve you in his quest, he then involves you in his quest (which is bullshit, because the reason you weren't involved STILL stands, it's just ignored), and the rest is you simply killing all the bad guys from earlier, before beating Nyarl.
It is much, much worse than IS.

>>384796546
>the same characters and gameplay mechanics
t. Never played it
Many of the characters in IS have very minor roles, and there are some different mechanics - e.g demon negotiation options are much more limited in EP.
EP focused on having more content for gameplay, such as bonus dungeons or side activities in the hub.
IS was shorter and was much more focused on the story.
They are not the same game.

>>384793031
>he only thing I agree with here is there being too many group chats.
There actually weren't enough group chats. There was a bunch of characters "texting" the same plot related thing in different wording for five minutes, but rarely did they use the group chat to just fucking chat. Real disappointing they all "typed" the same too so it was boring to read no matter what.

>>384796194
>The only thing P4 has going for it is Adachi
>waaah I suck that means the world sucks
>waaaah other people have it good
>waaaah why don't women like me

Yeah, what a villain!

>>384796628
Man i don't know, he was just a self insert to me where i choose his personality, there's only a few times he even talks on his own and are just generic lines. Too say a mere blank state was the only positive thing a bout a game is just ridiculous to me since you are basically saying YOU were the only good thing about the game.

>>384797162
Not that guy but Joker had far more personality than Yu in conversation options. I sometimes laugh at how unexpected one conversation option is and just press for the hell of it. Even in Slinks where I know won't get me max points

Button mashing was good too

>>384797152
Compare that to all of the other villains. Hackshino can not write then for shit. At least Adachi was entertaining.

>>384796628
>Except for Yusuke, but he's flanderized to death anyways.
Out of all future character assassinations, his is the one I dread the most. They nailed the balance between sincere yet eccentric, and they're going to trash it for funny randumb weirdo shit, I just know it.

>SMT/Persona
>Ever good
Stop being delusional.

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>>384791926
>fan o p4

>>384797671
hello nu/v/

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>The reader’s feature does not necessary represent the views of GameCentral or Metro.

>>384794812
p4 is the only persona i dropped

>>384795304
p4 is the blacksheep of persona. the people who like p4 tend to not like any other person. and anyone who likes any other persona tends to not like persona 4, or at least not as much

>>384796194

3 was the last game in the series that deserved to be called a spinoff of SMT.

It was more lighthearted, but only in the beginning.

The moment Shinji joins everything slowly starts going to shit.

>>384796020
No it just makes you a fucking meme spouting sperglord.

>>384798135
Sounds more like a P3 fan to me. They don't even like their own port.

>Persona fans are still arguing which game is the worst
Is this the best Personafags have to offer?

sae is bae
that is all

I'VE HAD IT.

EVERY TIME SMUG P3 SHITTERS COME INTO THESE THREADS TO ACT HIGH AND MIGHTY, WHEN THEIR FUCKING MELODRAMATIC SHIT (WITH FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN AI I MIGHT ADD) IS JUST AS BAD AND SUFFERS FROM THE SAME FUCKING PROBLEMS AS P4 AND P5. IT'S ALL THE FUCKING SAME.

FUCK EACH AND EVERY P3 FAGGOT ON THIS BOARD. YOU DON'T GET TO WHINGE ABOUT P4 FAGGOTS BEING "NOSTALGIAFAGS" OR "BABBYS FIRST PERSONA" WHEN YOU ARE THE SAME FUCKING PEOPLE. RRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Stay mad P4 fags.

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P5 having negotiations and actually fighting the demons you can capture instead of randumb shaped shadows automatically makes it the best persona game.
It also has the best Slink in the franchise.

>>384798870
>Sadayo
>best anything
No.

>>384798867
Requesting the pic where japs picked P5 as the best RPG

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P4 is one of the best games I've ever played. P3 and P5 were a disappointment in comparison. I will never not be ridiculed by SMT fans who prefer their own favourite game in the series.

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>>384798828
>Implying P3 doesn't have the best cast with the only coherent arcs
>Implying it doesn't have the best SL in the franchise

>>384798870
>P5 having negotiations
>>384793538
>There's nothing wrong with demon negotiations, some systems work better than others though. I personally really like Soul Hackers' system. The issue with P5's imo is that it requires you to down your enemies. The game is piss easy, so after the second dungeon or so you'll find that you will(nearly) kill all the enemies with your attacks quickly. This means you either don't get to negotiate at all, or else you only have one shot.
>But why even exploit weaknesses? Why not use attack them until they talk to you? If you do this, it is no longer negotiation - the shadow does exactly what you tell them to. This is how almost all my 'negotiations' go - I attack with weapons or physical attacks (to breeze through the enemies) and I still get the benefit of 'negotiations'. Negotiations aren't really a thing in P5, or they easily don't have to be.

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>>384795581
Good taste, my friend.

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COME TOUCH ME LIKE I'M AN ORDINARY MAN

>>384799163
People can have a favorite game while still enjoying other entries.

>>384799184
>only coherent arcs

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly why nobody takes you people seriously. I would love for you to adequately demonstrate why the "arcs" in P4 and P5 were not coherent when compared to P3's.

>>384798302
I liked p3p, though it definately was gutted

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>>384795581
>>384799271
>muh atmosphere over gameplay

Shameful display.

>>384798302
Portable is the best version of the game.

>>384799184
Posts like this convinces me that P3fags like P3 not coz it was well written but coz it was gloomy and depressing

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>>384798867
>P5: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/persona-5
>P4: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-vita/persona-4-golden
>They have the same score

I'm not a fan of using Metacritic to justify taste, but considering that P4G has the same critic score AND a higher user score, well, buddy... You look like a tool.

>>384799313
According to /v/ no one should be enjoying P4 tho

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>>384799294
>the girl who marked where P5 went to shit in second.

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>>384791926
Let the game wars begin

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>>384799598
>shitposters still trying to push this meme

>>384799294

Was Akechi not on the list because they knew he'd be first?

>>384799516
I don't think you know anything about writing quality, "coz".

>>384799597
It is just watered down game compared to the others in the series. I like it, but I would never rate it highly.

>>384799458
>i just like playing mindless dungeon crawler games and not give a fuck about story/atmospehere

>>384799954
Not an argument

>>384799538
Don't worry P5C will have 99 score and 95 user score

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>>384799387
Sure, but only because you asked so nicely.

>Junpei is the only example of a party member straight up hating you at points throughout the entire franchise. Unlike the P4 and P5 "bro characters", Junpei develops over the course of the entire game, and in the end is the best written character in the entire franchise.
>Akihiko, Ken, and Shinji all develop BECAUSE of each other, unlike literally every other character who develops because they suck your dick. They have relationships amongst each other, and it's constant throughout the story.
>The MC himself changes as a person and is probably one of the best written silent protagonists of all time. It's pretty obvious when the game starts that he's an emo fuck, but slowly gets over it thanks to the power of BONDS and sacrifices himself for people he wouldn't have cared about the year before.
>And in general, the cast has actual relationships with each other. Junpei and Fuuka. The aforementioned Akihiko/Ken/Shinji deal. Mitsuru and Yukari. Yukari and Junpei, despite that the bro character/first girl relationship is a cliche in every single one of these games.

>>384799954
Nuff said.

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>>384795581
>Gold over anything

Fuck you

>IS>EP>P5>P1>P4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>P3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>P4G

At least I agree SMTIV is a shitfest

>>384800039
Exactly.

If I wanted a story, I would stick to a VN, a movie or a book. A mentality like yours is what brought us the article in the OP, and that needs to fuck off.

>>384793715
>>384793857
>>384793938

Are we pretending that Persona 4 is a bad game still? I mean, there's nothing wrong with liking P2, P3, P5, or whatever other SMT game of your choice more, but that doesn't make Persona 4 bad.

>>384800352
>if i wanted a story, i'd read a book
>video games can't have story

I love this mentality.

>>384800352
Then you wouldn't have enjoyed Persona to begin with and would've played literally any other MegaTen.

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>>384799860
>meme.
>Kaneshiro arc is the low point of the game.
>Makoto says she'll stop sucking up to authority only to act no different afterwards.
>point in the game where Ryuji and Ann lose all relevancy and Ryuji's sole character trait is solidified as "retard".
>all the heavy lofting in the plot is done by Makoto, Futaba, and Morgana afterwards.

>>384791926
this guy is making people like me look bad for liking P4 most. Why are 90% of P4 fans delusional about their game when it's clear P5 is better in almost every way possible

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>>384800514
I already did.

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>>384795131
>What's with these articles?

Damage control. With no western GOTY to rally behind, "journalists" are trying to downplay the slew of good Jap games we got instead.

>>384800098
Can't P5 or P4 can't match?

>Morganna changes from some selfish prick to actually giving a shit about the team
>Ann and Makoto primary factor in getting Futaba out of her shell
>Overall PT learns to not do this shit for the fame but to actually help people and shit
>MC remembers to give an actual fuck and not be bitter about his decision
>Futaba and Haru care about Morganna a lot. Yuusuke and Futaba. Ann and Ryuji or Morganna.

>>384800904
>Caught up
Was about time for the japs to caught up to the west.

>>384800904
>caught up
You mean completely obliterated western RPGs.

>>384801229
What western RPGs even came out this year

>>384801319
None worth mentioning.

>>384792248
>Naming their kid(s)after the two shittiest characters in the game
Wew lad

>>384796575
>let's pretend Raidou 1 is teh best game ever
I don't understand what causes people to believe this.

>>384800965
You can't honestly think that Morgana's arc was coherent at all.
>I'm useless!
>Third smartest member
>Is a FUCKING CAR
>Actually an asset to the team unlike idiots like Ryuji
>Resolved in like ten days
If anything his arc would've been better if it was given to Ryuji, but then it would've been a lame copy paste of Junpei's, without the women or good writing.

>Anne a factor in Futaba leaving her shell
What? It was literally almost entirely Makoto, despite that making little to no sense considering how awful Makoto is supposed to be with people. Anne just said like, one thing. Then it's all MC, all the time.

>PT learns to stop doing this for the fame
Oh yeah, I remember that arc that lasted for about one dungeon and was really just Ryuji.

>MC learns to stop being a bitter fuck
What are you even talking about? The MC never actually has a moral dilemma or changes as a person throughout the entire game.

I'll give you Futaba and Yusuke, but besides them, Futaba doesn't have an actual relationship with anyone else. You'd assume she'd be super close to Makoto considering that she helped her get out of her shell before the MC steps in, but no, not really. The only "relationship" she has with Morgana is when she makes fun of him during Hawaii. I'll also give you the initial four party members, but that relationship is forgotten about by the time Makoto slides in.

>>384800965
>Overall PT learns to not do this shit for the fame but to actually help people and shit
This one makes no sense.
Ryuji was the only one constantly going on about fame. Overall, the main push that got the PT to go after Okumura was to help Haru not end up in a shitter marriage.

>>384801634
Atmosphere

>>384791926
>if I ever have a daughter she’ll be called Chie or if it’s a son, well he’ll be called Teddie.
>likes worst girl
>likes worst boy

why are normalfags the absolute worst

>>384791926
How the fuck can anyone like Teddie

>>384800294
>>384795581

Wait, is SMTIV really so hated? It's the first of the franchise i tried, I'm in the middle of it and loving it. Actually i did play P3 first but it lost my attention 5 hours in circa

>>384791926
>The reader’s feature does not necessary represent the views of GameCentral or Metro.

>You can submit your own 500 to 600-word reader feature at any time, which if used will be published in the next appropriate weekend slot

Wow it's almost like anyone can write stupid shit

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Persona 5 added four more general magic types including Psychokinesis, Nuclear, Bless and Curse. There are some cool new effects and adds variety to the system, but it doesn't really change up the gameplay in any meaningful way. It's still just exploit all weaknesses and All-Out Attack until everything's dead. It added variety, not depth. The Gun system is a great idea because it hearkens back to P3's three different weapon types, but there is literally no reason to ever use Gun skills or upgrade your weapons past the first dungeon because you need to invest so much time into upgrading them to make them be worthwhile. Maybe all the dungeons could have ammo refill stations in Morgana's bus, or maybe you can find ammo for weapons off of enemies/inside breakable objects.

All of the villains in the game besides Kamoshida and Shido were poorly written and were cartoon villains with no motivation. Madarame almost made it as a great villain but stumbles at the end zone because he just had to be a total monster letting Sayuri die. He was plenty evil before that and all it did was add a bit of shock the first time you fought him, but on repeat playthroughs it's just shit writing.

Your confidant's personal stories are great, but you never really feel like you're friends with these people AS A GROUP. There needed to be more events where you just hang out with everybody such as the beach. Also less focus on people eating all the fucking time. Seriously 99% of the time spent with your friends in this gigantic city with so much to do is spent eating food. Also the final boss is a giant JRPG monster asspull which had no reason to be there and very clearly shows that the writers just made up a stupid entity to cause everything for like the fifth fucking time in the series.

>>384801725
Yea but the reason they bothered showing up was coz of the polling. Plus Morganna bought into the hype train pretty hard too. If anything he was always planning to make PT popular and shit

>>384801674
Morganna just felt overshadowed with Makoto and Futaba around since he originally did the planning and navigation.

>What? It was literally almost entirely Makoto,
Ann was more far effective than Makoto in conversation with Futaba and was the was the one who picked her swimsuit.

>What are you even talking about?
you didn't the horrified face of Joker when he was arrested?

>when she makes fun of him during Hawaii.
Ya and the only one super worried when Morganna ragequit the team

>>384802510
People shitpost about it because it's on 3DS. The game is alright otherwise.

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>>384798135
>started with Persona 1 and 2, loved them even if they were a bit annoying to get through at times
>skipped P3 because kid with no money
>picked up P4 a while later, had a lot of fun with it
>Went back to P3. Didn't like it as much since I started modern Persona with 4, but it was still a great game. Enjoyed the darker tone and the final boss was a lot more difficult than P4's in a good way
>Want P5, but that would involve buying a PS3/4.
>mfw

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>>384791926
>Mona is no Teddie
THANKS FUCKING GOD

>>384803073
just emulate it in a few months

>>384799538
yeah, with p5 having 50% more actual reviews

>>384802718
Morgana had plenty going on and he felt sure about himself until a random point in the game. Remember they hadn't even gone through another Palace and already he was yelling about being useless.

Futaba was worried for about five minutes, then they find him and they sort of just don't give a shit. Even a little bit of guilt would be nice, especially because we established prior that she easily feels guilty about things.

>Anne helping Futaba pick out a swimsuit
I mean, I guess? But she has like what, ten lines of conversation with her? I would hardly call that a relationship.

>Horrified face of Joker
God I wonder if it's because he was going to jail? Even though he wanted to. Which is confusing, but I guess he's just great at faking emotions.

>>384796523
Anime Yu was fucking amazing.

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>>384793249
>But it's morning...

>>384803180
I wasn't aware that the amount of reviews meant anything.

Of course, I don't really care about review scores, the person I was replying to did. I was just pointing out how silly he looked.

>>384802510

For me is the dumb changes in gameplay and how fucking easy the game is after the star of the game.

Apoc does fix some things while adding other problems on top (trying to be persona with friends and shit) good thing you can be an edgy shithead and murderfuck them in the end

>>384800029
>watered down game
How so?

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> and Haru, why?
Is he fucking serious ?

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>>384803476
Haru is basically just Larry and Mitsuru's dumb child.

>>384802597
>Persona 5 added four more general magic types including Psychokinesis, Nuclear, Bless and Curse
Those were in P1/2

>>384803219
> he felt sure about himself until a random point in the game.
He already felt insecure when Makoto showed up. Ryuji shitting on him was the straw that broke the camel back.

>then they find him and they sort of just don't give a shit.
Did you skip the cutscene? They felt bad, looked for him, found him then felt bad that he thought he was useless and tried to apologize. Keep up nigga

>I would hardly call that a relationship.
Check the text message too nigga.

>Even though he wanted to.
Are you baiting me? Joker tried to help that woman, only to get screwed over by her.

>>384803695
Were they in Persona 1? I remember they were in 2, but I can't remember the first one.

Then again, it's been almost a decade since I play P1.

70% of people in this thread only played P4 and P5, it's more clear than water. Funny thread, casuals everywhere. You know the tard is a casual when he starts talking about "best girl" and not the game in general.

>>384803695
My b, started with 3.

>>384803807
What else is there to play in the Persona universe?
You only need to play 3 4 and 5. Why bother with the rest and SMT garbage?

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>>384803804
Psi was in 2 but not 1. I was thinking of gravity.

>>384803949
Why play 3? 4 and 5 are much better games.

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>dude here's a clickbait article written by some random faggot who could think superman 64 is goty for all we know
No thank you.

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I know this is the new consensus, but I can't bring myself to hate P5. I waited eight years for this game. I liked it at the very first second they announced it. I played it and I liked the style, the story, the characters, the music, the gameplay.

How do you do it ? Can I join the hate bandwagon ? I so want to be like you guys.

>>384800904
Has 2017 been a terrible year for western games not named HZD/UC4 expansion?

>>384802376
Well, it makes sense.
Better those than Yukiko, Yosuke, Kanji or Jamal-kun.

>>384803789
Name 1 (one) time that Morgana felt "insecure" when Makoto showed up. And regardless, Ryuji didn't shit on him at all, he was just firing back at Morgana literally making fun of him throughout the entire game.

And when they do find Morgana, they care about his well being for about ten seconds and then try just try to find out who the Beauty Thief is.

As for Joker getting arrested, I thought you were talking about the time he gets arrested and we actually see it. As for his "arc", Joker is clearly fine with fucking with people less than three months after he gets arrested for the first time. If hardly call that an arc, especially because we see no evidence of it.

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How well does P5 run on PS3 emulator now?

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>>384804227
AhahahaAHAHAHAHA

>>384804565
>Has 2017 been a terrible year for western games not named HZD/UC4 expansion?

Crash had a successful revival, and the West is going to revive Sonic with Mania next month.

>>384804383
There isn't a hate bandwagon, it's two guys at most making these types of threads daily
That said it's normal for some people to be disappointed, and in the face of a game that was very well received, the gripes people had with it tend to stand out more

>>384804383
Only "play" P4, that way you can become a shitter too.

>>384804740
?

>>384792281
P5 feels like more of a visual novel than 4 and 3 so I'm not surprised you're getting fans who just want to cut out the fluff now.

>>384804807
>and the West is going to revive Sonic with Mania next month.
And Japan is going to murder him again right away with Forces.

>>384804740
What a disgusting post

>>384804565
Not really unless you're a mass effect/preyfag.

>>384804707
There's still a lot of optimization to be done framerate wise, but if you like the franchise enough you can still enjoy playing it even with the slowdowns. The more powerful your processor, the better. I'm 30 hours in and it only crashed once for me for "failing to compile a vertex shader" or something along those lines

>>384804707
>How well does P5 run n PS3 emulator now?
Part of using an emulator is that the games won't run as well as the original hardware.

why are there fags so desperate for P5 to be bad?

>>384805110
Tell that to the PS2 emulator

>>384796546
As someone who only played EP and just recently got around to IS they are definitely not the same game.

>>384805146
Franchise syndrome.

>>384804383
It's just a meme. Some people are disappointed with the game or don't think it's good compare to the previous ones but the hate bandwagon is just usual /v/ shitposting. Persona becoming popular was a mistake.

>>384805146
Why are there fags that are so desperate for P4/3/2/1 to be bad? Why are there fags that are so desperate for any Persona game to be bad?

It's just a matter that some can't respect others opinions. They also need a way to justify their own opinion.

>>384791926
Persona 5 was my first persona game and I really like it.

My only problem is that the story it was trying to tell didnt need 70 hours to unfold. Only a few of the party members actually mattered in the story, and the main story was good for a twenty hour rpg where you go from Kamoshida to the Metaverse killer, but all the added shit felt kinda bad and my interest in continuing kept dipping and raising.

>>384793031

The SIU director should have had a dungeon instead of just getting killed off. That would have been better imo.

>>384805391

But that's what SMT is. Dungeon grinding is SMT

>>384793031
>Too many group chats
>Too many chats revolving around "did x work?"
>No option to block them from blowing up my fun with their absolute stupidity
>No option to tell Rujin to stop yelling out that we're phantom thieves.

>>384805691
Or maybe they could have just removed the unnecessary story paddling.

>>384805391
Never play P3. P5's story is brilliantly paced compared to P3's.

>>384792618
Joker is less of a blank slate than Yu and Makato.

>>384804650
>he was just firing back at Morgana literally making fun of him throughout the entire game
And he was right coz Makato and Futaba were already going to do the shit he was already doing. That was what made Morganna mad.

>then try just try to find out who the Beauty Thief is.
Wow it is almost as if he was fine since he was already hanging out with the Beauty Theif

>people less than three months after he gets arrested for the first time.
Again, he did it coz either his friends were fucked or for the fame and glory. Even before Kamoshida blackmailed him, he was sorta tagging along with Ryuji. That sort of changed in Okumura/Shido when he realized he was only in it for the glory and shit. The offer with Ylady did with he showed once and for all he is in PT for altruistic reasons

>>384805860
I'd be able to stand the chats a lot more if they actually said things, but they don't. They just talk about things that are completely irrelevant almost 100% of the time.

It's not a coincidence that most of the P5 shitflinging from sites comes from P4fags.

>>384805691
My problem is that the game didnt respect my time well enough. Many of the dungeons were a snore fest, and about half the story moments were repeating plot I already knew. If it wasn't for the social links for character interaction, I probably would've quit the game out of boredom.

Fantastic style and a kinetic battle system were sorta wasted on the content that was present.

>>384805954
Yea I heard. To its credit the first 15 hours of Persona 5 with Kamoshida and after are brilliantly paced. Like one of the best paced story segments released in years. It kinda shits the bed with the artist and mob boss though, which felt like filler until the end.

>>384805860
Don't forget you don't ever get the option for a stupid group chat instead of wasting your entire day going to the hideout and talking about nothing in person. Most of the conversations could've been group chats since we already knew that social links didn't affect your relationships with the other characters.

shit article from a shit person.

P4 is the lowest tier in the franchise apart from P1.


P3>P5=P2(to be fair P2 is way better than P5 but I can't forgive this crapass gameplay)>P4>P1

I'm sure it's been said 100 times, but I think the real problem with P5 is just the lack of balls.

It's trying too hard to please everyone and to do it like its anikis did. Taking a bit from each earlier game, trying to always walk the beaten path...I think when P5 does shit like with Kawakami being your maid teacher waifu, it gets great, brilliant even, but that's like one freaking thing...

P3 was fucking soaking dark and moody and P2 was out of this world like nothing else.

P5 is alright, I like it a lot, but I like it the same way you like the meal you eat every day. It's good, but it could have a bit of spice to make it different.

>>384806094
Morgana is literally making fun of Ryuji the entire game and yet Ryuji says literally one thing back and he freaks the fuck out. I can't empathize with him because he's being a whiny bitch, especially because in the end he's more useful than literally almost all of the other Thieves. This entire "arc" is like what, two weeks long? And then he just stop caring about it and gets along fine. Nothing really changes his world view or anything, he just gets over himself.

The PT also don't really give a shit about his feelings and if anything they're more salty about how their car ran away.

Joker doesn't have any regrets about what he did considering he's perfectly comfortable about doing it again when he awakens. That's even less of an arc than Morgana's and you seriously can't be trying to argue it's on the same level as MC's.

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>>384806658
So, I hate to just say "this", but, this. You're right on the money, Anon.

>>384806354

I honestly wish it had as much plot twists as P4 because that game at least had new things happening every dungeon.

>>384806658
Wanna know how I know you're a p3baby?

>>384806846
P5 had plenty of plot twists it's just most of them were either telegraphed in advance or we knew that nothing would really come out of them.
>Oh my God Okumura died!
>But you already knew that would happen, thanks to Sae, and you also already knew it wasn't your fault thanks to Groo.

>>384806139
Yea, same. They were well utilized in the beginning and after Kamoshida. But once Yusuke joined the chats started getting repetitive when they should've been used for character interaction. I mean fuck if you look at my text messages with my freelance job, only about 10% of them are about work. And these are teenagers we're talking about.

90% of the texts I ended up thumbing through. For a re-release, most of them need to be changed to character interaction. If your dialogue is not moving the action forward, revealing character, or setting a tone- than its needless and must be cut out.

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>>384807079
I dunno? Maybe because he said P3 was the best one in his paragraph, you waste of space?

Would people like this game's plot better, if they didn't do in media res?

>>384806661
You are whining about the arc being too short? Pfft okay senpai.
>Nothing really changes his world view or anything, he just gets over himself.
No he changed from being PT for his own ends (ie being a human again) and in it to make PT better. Actually watch the cutscenes

>and if anything they're more salty about how their car ran away.
Yea thats why they totally forced Ryuji to apologize to Morganna and saved his ass later. Watch the cutscene

>Joker doesn't have any regrets about what he did considering he's perfectly comfortable about doing it again when he awakens.
I didn't say that. I said he was bitter that he got screwed over despite doing the right thing. Again every situation post Okumura and even SLinks he used his Persona either to save his friend's ass or for fame. So much so that he got baited hard in Okumura. There was no other situation where he chose to help a stranger coz it was the right thing to do. But the deal with Ylady changed that. Watch the cutscenes

>>384807193
>the best one
>game with the worst dungeons, combat, and pacing in the series

I don't get why people have to pit the different Persona titles against eachother. It's all in the same lineage, it has all the core SMT people as its producers/artists and they generally play well within the same universe. Hell, the Joker/Trickster was referenced in former Persona games too.

>>384807102
That makes it not a plot twist moron.

implying you saw the ruse cruise coming

>>384804383
why would you want to be like "you guys"?

>>384791926
He's wrong about the combat and the characters "not getting any love" but other than that he's right. There are 40-ish areas in tokyo, which for most you only get to visit once during a link and again for hang out day. It adds nothing to the game, in fact it makes the actual intractable area of the games feel less alive. Links should have been set in areas you can actually explore, or they should have been attached to the explorable areas like akihibahra.

Text chat was also horrible. Besides the occasioanlly funny gag, it only served to annoy the player with "OMG THE DEADLINE IS COMING OMG OMG" and other meaningless exposition. It's probably the most we have ever seen the party talk together but it's probably the least they said anything important. They should have saved text chat for small things for tried to have the party meet up from more than Phantom Thievery, hell even hanging out in smaller groups and texting it to the ones who can't make it to the meetings better. Also they better add an extra month if they rerelease or Haru will forever be a who

>>384794515
Are you fucking stupid?

>>384793590
this, no point in having the gameplay desu
just make a pretty waifu for me and i'll defend the game till i die

>>384805954
5 has terrible pacing. It takes 3-4 hours for the game to properly start.

>>384807368
>An arc being too short is a good thing
God I sure do love it when a character gets rid of all of their baggage within a month

>Forced Ryuji to apologise
I don't remember an actual character moment between Ryuji and Morgana where Ryuji apologized for Morgana being a hypocrite. I remember them finding Morgana, chasing after him, and then not giving a shit about his baggage.

>Joker does it for fame
He really doesn't. Ryuji does. Joker is perfectly fine with just punishing people he believes infringed on his or other's f. He only gets "baited" by Okumura when the PT decides they want to stop Haru's marriage.

>>384807193
this anon answered for me
>>384807410
>worst dungeons, combat and pacing
Also best story, cast and atmosphere. And themes. And memorable characters, and personalities, and pretty much everything that isn't gameplay.

Gameplay of P3 is pure shit though, not debating that. But I play Persona for story, not gameplay.

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Article was shit, but then so is metro.co.uk

>>384807842
4 is the game with shit pacing

>>384807581
I saw the ruse cruise coming because it made no sense for a protagonist to die like that.

I didn't figure out how they'd bring him back and when they actually did it, it was rad as hell, although I don't like how stupid they painted Groo during it.

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>>384807967

>>384807842
3 takes 20 to 30 hours be more rhan a tower climbing/fighting boss of the month simulator.
Thank god the slinks were good enough to keep you entertained.

>>384807959
So P3 is the better book? I like EP's cast better too.
I like P3 but it's a very flawed game.

>>384807102
The entire 'Phantom Thieves popularity' thing went on a little too long IMO. Meanwhile P4 had multiple kindnappings, different perpetrators and several tragedies mixed in. P5 had that one 'fooling the enemy' part and that was it.

P5 could have had a good story if Aketchi was actually how he appeared for most of the game and was just a good person who pointed out that the Shadow Thieves were actually morally quite questionable

That had potential to create an interesting conflict in the story and some degree of player agency in whether or not you'll admit you were wrong with alignment/ending implications

But NOPE this is a japanese weeaboo pandering RPG so of course he has to turn out crazy and remove any moral ambiguity from your feelgood self insert anime trash

>>384808025
3 has only social links inbetween full moons and some rare occasional extra (like the Yakushima trip). I don't dislike it because then I can focus on the Slinks which is what I'm really there for, but some don't.

P4 takes a horrible 2h40 mins to properly get started.

P5 takes an even worse 4 hours.

So to be fair, depending on your tastes they're all horribly paced. I think P3's the best, but that's just my tastes, I'm in for Links, not plot twists that are usually super fucking predictable (hello Dojima, you just received a threatening letter in your own home, time to leave your 7 year old daughter there alone)

>>384792296
Raidou has subpar gameplay though

>>384808273
>So P3 is the better book?
I'm convinced people who make comment like this have never read a book in their life

A story driven game and a book do not deliver remotely the same experience and this is incredibly fucking obvious and yet people keep saying it

>>384807967
He was 72? Holy fuck

>>384805110
t. Never played Xenoblade at a silky 60 fps

>>384792618
Joker is the least blank slate mc out of 3, 4, and 5.

>>384807897
>all of their baggage within a month
Morganna still worries about his humanity even after that shit.

>I remember them finding Morgana, chasing after him, and then not giving a shit about his baggage.
Your shit memory is not an argument.

>Joker is perfectly fine with just punishing people he believes infringed on his or other's f.
Yea and he does to punish, not to save. But that slowly changed as he becomes less vindictive (like Akechi) and more altruistic so much that when he broke off the deal, he did coz he wanted to save the people who screwed him over (making him and his friends disappear).

>PT decides they want to stop Haru's marriage.
Yea let's forget the fact that the polling in the website was rigged to show Okumura to be the top to entice the PT to go there in the first place. I mean if your memory is gonna be so shit why even bother discussing the story of P5?

>>384808273
>better book
P3 is freaking magical because it's immersive with its atmosphere. Wouldn't be the same as a book if you didn't actually go out of your way to choose which Slinks you favor and how your answers deeply matter to make the Slinks advance. It's shit in the RPG side, the VN talks is brilliantly deep and as a book it just wouldn't work the same.

EPs cast is great and so is IS's, in fact I think better than P3, but it's incomparable. The earlier games are just straight up RPGs, Persona starting 3 is something different. You can't compare going from rank 0 to rank 10 of a Slink to any of the wierd ass underwritten conversations of P2, and generally those were poorly written in the first place. P3 is superb at giving you choices in conversations and making all the characters super interesting and difficult to predict and understand. Also, that atmosphere.

P4 has no freaking atmosphere except for "cool town mang" and P5 is good, just lacks balls.

>>384804965
>P5 feels like more of a visual novel than 4 and 3
I mean, yes and no. It feels like more of a life sim than 3 or 4 and there are certain serious fuck ups in terms of player agency and freedom like Morgana telling you to go to sleep for like ten days in a row any time anything vaguely main plot-related happens but I wouldn't say it was more of a VN than 4 or fucking 3 Portable

>>384808068
I actually sort of figured out the switch before it happened.

But my point is that switch is the only real plot twist

>>384791926
>Persona 4 fans "opinion"
>actually likes Teddie, the most irredeemably shit character in the entire series

lmao

I can't even carry on reading this shit.

>>384808716
Name exactly one (1) occurrence where Morgana gave a shit about his humanity after his """arc"". He seems to take everything pretty well, for some reason .

I don't remember Ryuji properly apologizing at all, and even if he did it was half assed, because Ryuji literally did no wrong and it was entirely Morgana's fault.

Joker also didn't give a shit about the poll, Ryuji did. The only reason they get involved with Okumura is because they want to save Haru. Joker doesn't give a shit about the fame and never had. Mishima and Ryuji did.

>>384796341
>And saying "/v/ loved..." doesn't really mean shit. Lots of games enjoy a honeymoon period. Look at Mass Effect 2. It practically took over the board when it first came out. Where's that fanbase now? Those that didn't turn against the game completely apathetically evaporated
>having this much of a selective memory
>/v/ was even receptive to Skyrim when it first came out
>still not getting why no one likes Skyrim around here
Even your example was a fucking terrible one since not only were there many who disliked ME2 when it came out but its staunchest supporters still support it, too.

>>384791926
What garbage. I thought he was going to talk about the story, but nope, apparently it's the fucking gameplay which was far and away superior to Persona 4. What is this dumb nigger smoking?

>>384800439
>there's nothing wrong with liking P2
There is if you legitimately think it's better than any of the others on any front that isn't writing and even then only marginally

>>384808992
Who the fuck thought that persona needed mascot characters anyways

>>384809047
>He seems to take everything pretty well, for some reason .
He still had the nightmares and woke up worrying about his humanity and shit

>because Ryuji literally did no wrong and it was entirely Morgana's fault.
I agree but Ryuji pussying out like a bitch doesn't mean the PT weren't remorseful

>Ryuji did
The whole point of the polling was that it put Okumura on their radar. They eventually committed to the target, but Shido wanted them to chase Okumura in the first place. Keep up nigga

>Joker doesn't give a shit about the fame and never had.
He didn't say shit when Morganna and Ryuji were getting hyped so you can't know that for sure. It doesn't take away of how he got over being vindictive to being altruistic

>3 has shit pacing!
>no 4 has shit pacing!
>no 5 has the shit pacing!
Uh guys, don't you realize this means they all have shit pacing, probably due to the calendar system?

>>384809697
>Morgana's nightmares
I'm fairly certain he had the one, and at that point he was more worried about him being a Shadow than him being a kitty.

The PT were basically 50/50 about Okumura and Yusuke even said that there's a chance they were being manipulated. Regardless, they only really care about it once Haru comes into the picture and that was just a coincidence.

>>384809356
Koromaru continues to be ridiculously popular. He wasn't really a mascot, per se, (he's supposed to be the Dog in the Fool Arcana) but his success led to Teddie and Morgana.

They could've just banked on Based Jack, but apparently he's too edgy for Persona.

>>384810150
But Koromaru never actually talked.

>>384807967
>everything on a news site is written by the same person

So sick of this dumb meme. It's called VIEWPOINTS you goddamn morons. Each writer has one. If they all had to have the same "message" from the top-down that would be much worse and you niggers would start complaining about that instead. I don't even browse that site.

>>384810150
>(he's supposed to be the Dog in the Fool Arcana)
Learn something new every day. Thanks for pointing that out.

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>>384810256
He was still a "mascot".

Honestly, I'm surprised I like him this much. He's just a fucking dog.

>>384810150
>and at that point he was more worried about him being a Shadow than him being a kitty.
It is the same thing?

>Regardless, they only really care about it once Haru comes into the picture and that was just a coincidence.
Yes wow congrats for keeping up to speed. But they would not have shown up if Shido never fixed Okumura to be the top. Hell Haru complained about this shit on the website earlier and PT didn't respond so you can't even say they did all of this solely cause of Haru

>>384808765
I didn't find P3 that immersive to be honest. Heck, I don't find P3-5 immersive at all.

The calendar system just doesn't do the trick for me. I just can't 'enjoy' the atmosphere when I'm getting bombarded with loading screens and unrelated events/slinks every 5 minutes. I mean, sure I could ignore slinks and 'enjoy' the game, but that would be missing the point of P3-5.

Also, not being able to slink with your party members and/or locking them behind a statinstead of plot progression was an incredibly dumb decision. They can talk about how we are all bffs late in the game, but they won't hang out with the MC unless he is X enough. I thought I would be able to finally Slink Akhiko after Shinji's thing, but the game goes 'nope, his arc is done, time for him to fade into obscurity'.

Aigis also brings the atmosphere down and ruins almost every scene she's in.

P3 slinks > P2 cast >> P3 cast

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>>384810592
Koromaru was a good doggie.

>>384810597
Being a cat doesn't equal being a Shadow. If so, we can assume the Mementos request where they guy was killing cats was actually a tragic story about a man on a hunt to save the world. Morgana could've easily been any other sort of entity.

And they would've shown up regardless, because Morgana found Haru and they wanted to help Haru. Sure, it came from Mishiman's site, but it was just coincidence and had nothing to do with Joker's character.

>>384810830
Why would Junpei care?

>>384811138
Because its not canon.

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I asked this in another thread, but does anyone else think there's a bigger connection than we realize between P3 and P5?

>P3 is based off of the Masque of Red Death
>P5's music mentions "Poe's Masquerade", and about how the singer doesn't want people to take off it's mask, which would reveal dark.
>In Edgar Allen Poe's The Masque of Red Death, the ""villain"" is a man wearing a mask. The mask is supposed to look like the titular Red Death, a disease that can kill almost instantly
>When the main character takes off the mask of the man, he finds that there's nothing under it. The masked man is instead the personification of the Red Death, and it kills everything in the room.
>P5's color is Red.

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>>384811138
Junpei is still appreciative of tits, even if he's exclusively for Chidori.

>>384810869
>Morgana could've easily been any other sort of entity.
Are you retarded or have shit reading comprehension? My whole point is about his nightmares are still there even after he resolves to stay in PT to make it stronger, showing that he wasn't "taking everything pretty well, for some reason" like you said.

>because Morgana found Haru and they wanted to help Haru
Which would have never happened if they weren't being pressured to go for Okumura.

>but it was just coincidence and had nothing to do with Joker's character.
It was not a coincidence and Joker took the bait like everyone by entertaining the thought and argeeing to investigate Okumura

>>384808765
>P4 has no freaking atmosphere except for "cool town mang" and P5 is good, just lacks balls
No 4 definitely has sone good atmosphere like the rest of the series. 5 is the only one lacking in atmosphere.

>>384811586
Morgana's nightmares aren't because of his psyche, they're because Igor designed him to be an amnesiac. For some reason. He has them even when he's on top of the world.

And yes, they find Haru because of the Okumura bait, but that says nothing about Joker's psyche.

>>384811626
4 has the potential for some good atmosphere but it blew it.

I wish that it would've been revealed that the reason everything was light-hearted was because Narukami was blocking all of the darkness out. People are dying and he doesn't give a singular fuck.

>>384811867
>He has them even when he's on top of the world.
Are you even reading what i write? His nightmares proves he is not over his origins ever after his arc with PT. How many times must I repeat myself you stupid fuck?

>but that says nothing about Joker's psyche.
It shows that he and the rest of PT are slaves to the spectacle. So much so that

Haru complains on website + no publicity = No help for Haru
Everyone complains on website + publicity = help for Haru

Can't really make this any simple, but i shouldn't be surprised since it is coming from a P3fag

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>>384812040
>everything needs to be dark and serious for there to be atmosphere
No wonder you don't like P4

>>384812297
Are you reading what I'm saying? Morgana's origins are only part of his arc and he's over everything else. The only reason he still has the nightmares is because by design he slowly gets memories back.

If anything, it shows the opposite about the PT. Everyone except for Ryuji is 50/50 about it, Yusuke thinks it might be a trap, but then they bond with Haru, and decide to help her. Joker wanting to help people for spectacle wasn't a thing before so why would it be now?

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>pick critically acclaimed game
>write negative review for it
>enjoy increased ad revenue from page hits

>>384812040
Atmosphere =/= how dark it is

P4 excels at what it's going for.

>>384807773
Are you?