Was he the true protagonist?

>>384790381
Beard is

There is no true protagonist outside Jacket and Biker

>>384790539
Biker post-Jacket murder isn't canon though

>>384790642
There was a thread where a guy put two different timelines, one where Biker kills Jacket, and another where Jacket beats (Not kill) Biker, which is the cannon for HM2

The Abyss extra chapter takes place in the timeline where Biker killed jacket and the Bunker remains unused by 50 blessings because they are gone in that timeline.

I remember the dev saying it was an accurate explanation of the story, if i can find the thread i'll link it, it was on Reddit

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>>384790381
>Tfw Around.mp3
Richter was good
Jacket was good
Biker was great but a dumbass
Beard is best
Tony is inspiration

>play hm1
>love it
>play hm2
>poor level design
>get to Richter levels
>amazing level design
>have more fun with his levels than any other character

What did the devs mean by this

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>>384790896
>doesn't even mention Ethan or The Son

>>384791007
>House Call
>Hardmode
>Good

I still don't know how you are supposed to beat this level, everytime i get past the first room it feels like i got lucky

>>384791529
Learn to single shot with the ak/m4

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dumping my Hotline folder

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>>384791812

>>384790642
What do you mean?

>>384790879
Where are you getting this alternate timeline bullshit from? Jacket thought he killed Biker but didn't. Otherwise Richter wouldn't have been called in to kill Jacket.

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>>384791930

>>384791529
Richters levels even on hard weren't that bad. Only truly heinous one was Dead Ahead

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>>384792015

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>>384792105

>>384792095
Which is the one where you start outside a bar with a dozen guys and a gigga nigga in the first room? That was horseshit.

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>>384792183

I personally liked the first one more (still love the second one)

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>>384792280

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>>384792403
Who is best girl?

>>384792247
First blood
That's ritchers first level

>>384792105
/v/ absolutely loved undertale when it first came out. The creator even told people that they would have to enjoy it before it became popular. Right on schedule it became popular and /v/ declared it overrated trash.

>>384792247
Yes bullshit in the sense that that first energy better have an assault rifle to mow down all the others that will then rush you down or you're screwed. The second floor is is though.

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>>384792496
the actress

>>384791496
Ethan is a fag
The Son is fun

>>384792247
>first enemy has a double barrel shotgun
>You only get one shot from it
I hate that they nerfed the double barrel shotgun so it doesn't pierce anymore. In hard mode it's so fucking useless

>>384791496
Fuck Ethan, honestly.
Evan was good, though

>>384792402
GOTTA GET A GRIP

I dislike it that they made so many characters bald out of laziness, extending it even to protagonists.

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Someone with a high enough autism make a power ranking list for the characters.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrPudC0pBg

Fav song and level

>>384793360
Link?

>>384792105

>>384791931
>Where are you getting this alternate timeline bullshit from? Jacket thought he killed Biker but didn't. Otherwise Richter wouldn't have been called in to kill Jacket.

That's Hotline Miami's canon universe.but when you play as Biker in HM1, you are playing on a different timeline, where 50 blessings is gone (Thanks to Biker killing/exposing them, or maybe the fact that Jacket wasn't there to kill the Russian Mafia Leader), The Abyss in HM2 takes place in the timeline where you played as Biker in the first game, that's why you find hobos wearing masks in an unused bunker, because at the end of the day there was no need for it.

Jacket being dead is like the best possible outcome

>>384792403
>dat streetlight angle
IS HE DOING DORIFTO?

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>>384794209
Fucking Henchmen

>>384792105
I like both games, why do people feel the need to make comparisons?

I could literally refute every argument on Undertale's side but i just feel more inclined to ask why people need to shit on other games to make the one they like better

>>384794434
>not being able to tell it's a joke

You do realize that's a common sign of autism, right?

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>>384790381
Are you guys excited for Hotline Miami x Persona crossover?

>>384794498
>make retarded arguments
>get called out
>it was all a joke, i was only pretending
no wonder why this place is shit

>>384794552
I will never not be pissed off about Midnight Animal

>promising fan made sequel
>looks to have the same themes and mechanics
>developer's gf leaves him
>gets depressed
>changes the whole game to be an emo simulator about being sad and shit

>>384794552
I thought it was already out and there was a huge backlash cause of how drastically the game changed.

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>>384794552
I'll never not be mad.
HM: Open World is lookin good tho, even if it's pretty early in development

>>384794696
Nevermind. You really are on the spectrum. Literally nobody takes that comparison image seriously. Except you, I guess.

>>384794708
Fucking this.
We could have Hotline Miami 3 but fuck no, let's make it into a dating sim with Hotline Miami gameplay sequences.
And he also replaced masks with "personas".
No, I'm not even kidding, they are called "personas" in the game.

>>384794936
>posting an image for the sole purpose of making dumb arguments when people call you retarded

>>384795045
Let's see if anybody else takes that image seriously. I'll wait.

>>384795163
>having dumb images saved in your hard drive only to pretend being a retard
>calling other people autistic because they called you out on your retardation
>internally thinking you are "le master ruser" when you finally get your (You)s

that's what too much /v/ does to you

Guys, what if Tony owns or works at the bar the Fans hangout at? It would explain why he's the only person available during the day to get the van fixed up and why no one else ever hangs out there.

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>>384795489
It was a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.
It's cute seeing how butt hurt you got though.

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>>384792105
>Hotline Miami
>(Original) SoundTrack
Pick one

https://youtu.be/XWTbo5muJ_Q

Remorse is such a great song

>>384795163
Not him but a person may legitly hold those arguments, especially since they aren't "too" retarded.

See Poe's law.

>>384795676
>has to post another bait image to get replies
That's cute.

Richter was never expected to survive his first mission at that Russian bar but because of his performance, he kept getting increasingly difficult/important missions. So yeah, he's probably the real protagonist.

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>>384795842
I've contributed more than half of the HM related images in this thread.
You might want to fill this out.

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>>384794552
>Eeehhhhh? Onii chan don't walk into me bathing in the shower!
>Brutally bash someone's forehead open with a brick, splattering brain matter everywhere with no remorse shown
These two subjects really don't play hand in hand

>>384795963
>le epic meme image xd
Woah, you really got me here.

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>>384796086
Keep it up. I know you're just seething right now.

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why did he had to die?

>>384796163
He wanted to go to jail to get his 15 minutes of fame like the thug that he is.

>>384796153
>no arguments left
Just like I thought.

>>384796163
Cause the Fans were fucking idiots

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>>384796273
And what was yours in the first place?
"I'm too stupid to get a joke, so I'll sperg out while looking like an absolute retard?"
What's there to argue with?

>>384796462
>starting an unnecessary war on /v/
>it was just a joke lol
Amazing humour friendo

>>384796251
>>384796292
/thread

The fans were a mistake

>>384796684
>in a Hotline Miami thread
>posts joke about HM being better than Undertale
>tumblrina gets triggered
>war
Why the fuck were you even in this thread in the first place?

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>>384793428
wrong on both points
Best Songs:
Simma Hem (even though only the outro plays in HM2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4zD4pL5k68

Acid Spit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6-xx2fLa8

Run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICjD3f-8SXE

She Swallowed Burning Coals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3UGNFUIiV4

New Wave Hookers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC4G_8_Mkr0

And last but not least, Escape From Midwhich Valley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpR1TRd4fog

Best Level is Release for the absolute madness of it all

Best character in terms of gameplay is Jake

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No, but he was the real human bean.

>>384796818
>like both games
>HAHA TUMBLRTALE GET IT? XD
>point out how retarded that image was
>HAHA RETARD! TUMBLR
I love nu-/v/

>>384794434
I'm like 99% sure he wasn't serious dude. calm down

>>384796998
>>point out how retarded that image was
Hey, maybe now you finally get the joke.

>>384796024
tell that to Japan, they keep doing it

>>384797105
>starting a war on /v/ is a joke
SIMPLY EBIN

>>384796024
You clearly don't watch enough anime

>>384790381
does Richter have buck teeth or what? I dont understand why he has his teeth out of his mouth

>>384795626
the other fans say that he's the only one without a job

>>384797181
I guess you're new here if you think that doesn't happen to get a rise out of literal retards, such as yourself.

>>384797265
This, he's supposed to be a NEET that lifts all day.

So if Fifty Blessings only recruited people with combat experience, what did Richter and Jake do before they were forced into it?

>>384797352
You know, you can call me a retard all day but when I browse /v/ I want to avoid all this console and game war bullshit.
If you want to sit on your ass all day and post your epic bait images that's okay, but don't be surprised when someone is pissed off because of that.

>>384796797
Oh they were cool just stupid

>there will never be a HM level featuring Disco Inferno by Perturbator

>>384797489
Jake looks like typical redneck so it would be safe to assume he knows a thing or two about guns.

>>384797573
You're the only one here that's pissed off, guy. I'm actually pretty happy because I didn't think an image like that could trigger someone that hard. Sorry this wasn't your safe space where HM and tumblrtale fans held hands and sucked each other off.

>>384797489
there's a theory that says that Richter's father was the colonel from Hawaii, maybe the colonel got him into 50B

>>384797741
>>384797573
You two lovebirds are never going to resolve this.

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Who read the serie? what is worth it?

>>384797829
Yeah. Can't post anything these days without someone crying. Sad!

>>384797741
>HAHAHA YOU DON'T LIKE WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO DO START SOME UNNECESSARY FIGHT ON THE INTERNET?
>TRIGGERED
Honestly fuck off, you are the cancer that makes /v/ a shit board.

>>384797854
lmao only digital

>>384797265
Nah, they say he's the only one not busy with a job during the day. He could work at night, which would be make sense for a bartender.

>>384794265
That's a big croc of shit for a couple reasons:
Biker didn't kill or expose 50 Blessings, he (possibly) killed the janitors, who are merely operatives in the grand scheme of the organization, and ran the fuck out of Miami right after (see: credits of HM1). 50 Blessings ceases masked killer operations after Jacket kills the Russian mob because they've served their purpose, fucking up the Russian mob and their connections in the US government (see: Hotel mission in HM1).
Seeing as Biker is alive in HM2 on Jacket trial scene (and Bar of Broken Heroes to a lesser extent since it's a weird scene with dead characters), it doesn't make sense that both are alive if you take into consideration that either of the Phone Hom fights is the true one. This, however, can be easily explained: Jacket's rendition happens as a recollection during his comma, which lasts up to Trauma, so it's probably not totally true to the actual events. This is supported by the outro scene of this chapter in HM1, in which he talks to Beard on a shop while Biker's dead body lays on the ground, and the latter says: "This isn't really happening, let me show you" and Biker's body vanishes.

(cont.)

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>>384797954
>f-fuck off!
Calm down, kid. I didn't mean to offend you or your shitty game.

>>384794265
>>384798156
As far as Biker's version is concerned, it doesn't make sense for the continuity of HM2 since Biker kills Jacket in it, but on the intro to this chapter you can see that just before heading out to Phone Hom Biker was throwing a party at his place, and there are drugs on his apartment and passed out people all over it as well, so his recollection could possibly be clouded like Jacket's. Also his face is fucked up with a scar in HM2 which he could've either gotten by fighting Jacket or on his time in the desert.
You can scream headcanon if you want to, but the fact is both characters are canonically alive in HM2 (again, Biker on the trial scene and Jacket throughout the whole game) and both their appearances are byproducts of their respective endings (Biker leaving Miami and getting mindfucked in the desert and Jacket being arrested after the murder of the Russian boss).
I have nothing on The Abyss, though, maybe after 50 Blessings ceased their operations following Jacket's arrest they abbandoned their HQ and the hobos took over on the main canon, but I'd bank more on it being non-canon.

>>384797854
it was readable, not incredibly good, but not bad either

>>384794839
How would that even work?

>>384798156
This.
On top of that, the Abyss universe happened because Jake survived Withdrawal, pocketed a floppy disk containing sensitive information realting to 50 Blessings, and Evan found the floppy disk among Jake's clothing.
Of course, he didn't survive, as his failure cutscene shows him getting interrogated and killed, with his body appearing in the first game, in Hot&Heavy.

>>384798816
About Jake, after he cleared the house of the russian mob and the 50B operative killed him, his body could've been planted on the scene by 50B to not compromise the undisclosed location in which they murdered him, then the Russians Jacket kills in Hot&Heavy ( was it really Hot&Heavy, though? Thought it was a smaller level) could've arrived and found their guys and their killer all dead, thus allowing Abyss to be canon.

>>384797573

>N-No bully...

As expected of Undermeme fags

Is it bad that I don't really "get" this game? I mean it's a well-made game, but I don't understand why it has the following it does.

>>384794839
Bruce is doing a good job doing jack shit while the actual dev is reworking the entire game

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Reminder that 50b is a shadow of what it could've been

>>384798792
It's a lot like GTA 1 & 2, only expanding on the combat and combining it with Hotline Miami's 80's aesthetics and music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gzQfpjcv4Y

>>384799318
You're not wrong.

>>384797489
I don't think that was the criteria, Biker was also recruited and he was just a rich dude who was bored, not overly patriotic or anything, meanwhile the war veteran Fans never got recruited.
Maybe they went with anyone who signed for their newsletter who wasn't either old, a cripple or a child?

>>384799296
Just weird and different. Got this particular style and great music and addictive gameplay that all meshes so well together

>>384797489
Ritcher has war medals
Jake mentions he was a soldier in the

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Tell me, /v/irgins, did you like how the story went? I remember on the first weeks after HM2 released people hated the shit out of it, but I particularly loved every aspect of it and really want it to become a movie someday.

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He was too pure for this world.

>>384799760
People who chose the desk over the phone deserve a special place in hell.

>>384799469
I wonder how the combat would even work on open world, since most of the hits you perform in HM are meant to be subtle. The only way I see it working sort of like GTA is if the devs just say fuck it to the whole premise of the originals and make it as a murder sandbox.

>>384799747
It's fine. Honestly most everyone was so fucked up I'm not sure how a "happy" ending would go about.

>>384799909
Does that actually change the game at all?

>>384800008
His ending scene on the credits is different.

>>384799296
you're missing the realisation of some aspect of the aesthetic

>>384799747
I didnt like the fans but I loved most of the other characters, especially pardo and the son. I didnt mind 1's story but it didnt seem as important as 2.

>>384800008
It gives it a happier ending, with Evan eating dinner with his family enjoying his final moments, instead of him struggling to write his book, alone.

>>384799469
Lethal?

>>384800436
I'm a shill for Lethal

>>384793754
>>384793850
>>384793957
>>384794046
>>384794126
>>384794209
>>384794316
>>384794352
These are fucking great. Love this series. I want more of it, but honestly don't know what they could do with it at this point.

>>384797854
Protag should've been Graham if they wanted to go with a rabbit mask imo.

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>>384800791
Pretty sure he's done with it.

>>384800791
We almost got an unofficial Hotline Miami 3 >>384794552

>>384800791
That's why they ended it the way they did and gave a level editor. So they wouldn't have to make anymore.

>>384800992
There's a documentary on youtube about the creators of HM. Both are turbo hipsters that complain about the success of the game. One even starts tearing up saying that the popularity made his life worse.
Now one of them is banking off the success of the games to get his shitty band off the ground while the other is working on a new game entirely.

>>384799747
The execution of both stories are vastly different. The story of HM1 is meant to keep you in the dark and be confusing. The story is all there, but you have to sort of piece it together. HM2 is a lot more forthcoming, story wise, but in the end you realize how futile it all is. It's not really fair to compare them, but you connect a lot more dots throughout the whole series when you play 2.

What do you think of the version of jacket in Payday 2?

Is he canon?

>>384801147
I don't give a shit about any of that. I got two good games and I'm happy with that.

>>384800725
you a sprite boy in the discord?

>>384800992
>leaving this world is not as scary as it sounds
I loved this entire scene fuck

>>384801291
o-okay

>>384801136
Yeah, which is all good and all, but I really enjoy the world they created, and would love further developments in it, despite the stories being told already. I also unironically want them to make it into a movie.

>>384801246
He couldn't be, Payday is current day
And Jacket would be an old fuck if the ending didnt actually happen anyways so

>>384801169
The major points are all there in 1, but I appreciate how 2 fleshes out a lot of stuff. For example, you learn about SanFran in HM1 so you can figure out that "you know who" died there , but knowing how it happened and the circumnstances and consequences of it in 2 was nice and expanded on that plot point and many more.
As for founding out how futile it all was, I don't really agree. A lot of people said it was all for nothing considering how the ending was on the weeks following the release of the game, but for me all of it was a well told story with defined beggining, middle and ending, that left me satisfied regardless of being bittersweet. I guess it's a matter of personnal taste concerning how you like stories to end.

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>>384801485
>movie
It'd have to be like a 10-15 part mini series

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>>384796906

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How does the original Postal compare to this gameplay wise?

>>384801485
They said the only person they'd allow to direct it is David Lynch so tough shit
also all the fan films in existence suck dick dont let anyone tell you otherwise

>>384799747
>>384801826
>tfw Ryan Gosling will never portray Jacket

>>384801826
Really?
Because I know for a fact that both games were heavily inspired by Drive. Nicolas Winding Refn was even credited with a "thanks" or whatever

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>>384801826
>fan films
I've seen em, anon. I agree. One had potential until they started fucking talking...the one with the asians..

None of them capture the magic of the launch trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o9SUPgyZRY

https://youtu.be/Y-Qu_Fk23T4
When I beat 2 I just stared at the main menu for like 10 minutes with this playing. Contemplating.

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>tfw you will never have friends to go murder gangsters in animal masks with

>>384802030
It's happened to me before when I was going through some things. It helped.

>>384801485
It's sad how Dennaton already stated they don't want and won't make more, because they could make another game from the place 2 left us with someone (or ones) new as protag (Biker could've survived the Miami nuke since he's been living in the desert, but as he said he's lost the will to fight so it wouldn't make sense to have him as the protagonist) , living during/after the nuclear way, assaulting buildings fortificated by groups of other people for supplies, for starters, and other kinds of objectives.
Hell, considering how the in-game US and Russian government formed a coallition after the Hawaii nukes, maybe they could make the world in HM3 a really tense one, with both sides afraid of the other but also reluctant to drop more nukes in fear of retalliation. There are many possibilities they could work with.

In the end I'd really like some passionate level editor to make a spiritual sequel set in the post-nukes world.

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>>384801992
Even though there's no actually gameplay in it that's still one of my favorite trailers of all time

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>>384802030
It never was a hurricane, anon. It never was...

>>384801246
>crossovers canon
>ever

>>384799747
Something i never see mentioned but i find really great is the Biker character and how "meta" his comments are

>i want answers! i'm not faving fun anymore!
>i'm bored!
>this is all political shit? I'm no longer interested

It mirrored my thoughts exactly

>>384801662
It was neat going back to HM1 and finding something about San Francisco after playing through the second game. I somehow missed that my first time around, and HM2 helps clear up so many things that you might have missed.

Regarding the futility, I don't necessarily mean that the whole game or the story was futile, it's just that it puts all of your senseless killing into perspective with even more senseless killing. I actually love how empty it makes you feel in the end. Every single person in that game dies a meaningless death due to a horrible cycle of violence.

I WAS BORN IN THE USA

>>384802769
I actually love how the new game in hard mode starts off addressing this. And isn't it beard at the very end with Richard?

>>384802756
The answers the Janitors gave you if you didn't have the password were also on that vein.

>It's only a game, didn't you have fun?

or something like that.

>>384802460
not even all about the game. More about life and the universe and all that bullshit
I fucking love The Green Kingdom now cause of HM2

>>384802960
That's Richter with his mom on Hawaii, unless you talk about New Game+ wich starts with Richard talking to all of HM2's protagonists

>>384802346
>In the end I'd really like some passionate level editor to make a spiritual sequel set in the post-nukes world.
Haven't you seen the workshop?
I mean, I doubt anybody will have the time or dedication to think out a fitting story and design good, thematically appropriate levels.
Last one I played had Jacket talking, which is my biggest Level Editor peeve.

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I always wonder, where the fuck did people get Ash and Alex were into incest? Is that a thing swans do or something?

>>384790896
Sick shirt, I remember seeing the art that guy made on reddit. Did he end up making shirts of it?

>>384802960
Definitely. It hits hard and prods at your trying to fill the emptiness inside yourself with more meaningless death.

>And isn't it beard at the very end with Richard?
Do you mean Richard and Richter on the beach?

>>384791007
Jake levels were better than average too, coincidently being closer to HM1 designs.
HM2 sucked.

>>384803179
>Is that a thing swans do or something?
It's a thing the degenerates of /v/ jerk off to.

>>384802346
I'd rather see a game taking place in between HM1 and HM2. I don't really know what they could do in a post-HM2 setting, but it would be interesting to see the disbandment of 50 Blessings and any final hits they assign.

>>384803146
Was it the one in which the fans take Jacket out of prison?
I only played Blessed and Madness, really enjoyed both. I really like how they expand on the universe without changing much.
Jones did nothing wrong.

>>384803179
Swans do mate with their relatives, but i'm pretty sure in HM's case is meant to be like they just really like to hang out with eachother

>>384803140
Yeah, I was talking about the new game plus, everyone at the table with Richard.

>>384803356
There's not really a "in between" HM1, and HM2, after Jacket kills the Russian mob boss 50 blessings stops the masked killer operation, the only major things that happen are the colombian takeover of the criminal underworld and the fans sitting in a bar waiting for 50 blessings to call them.

>>384803207
Richard, the rooster..He's the one at the head of the table with everyone, is he not?

>>384803372
It was a postwar one.
The levels were alright, but I fucking hated the plot twist.
14 years after the San Fran bombing, Beard's semi-intact body is still there, and the Colonel brings that body back to life, but Jacket and the Janitors kill him, but Beard is alive and kills almost everyone except Jacket and the Janitors

>>384803356
One of my favorite moments from 2 was finding the optional 50 blessings vault headquarters after the fact, with all the displaced killers come together. Pretty great level, even if it was a short one.

>>384803709
That sounds like the dumbest shit ever.

>>384803697
Oh, at the end of the table scene. I'm not sure exactly who disappears last, but it's probably Beard and Richard, yeah.

>>384803879
Worst part is that it was multiple campaigns (5?) and this was the last one.
All the campaigns had good levels and passable plots (minus Jacket talking), but this one just dropped the ball.

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>>384803930
>We've met before haven't we
>Yes we have. I'm Glad you remember. I know you didn't ask for any of this.I wish we could have met under different circumstances...
>Me too...
>....

>

>>384803009
>The Green Kingdom
what's the twist with this one?

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>>384804324
I feel like there's a big plot point I'm missing with this scene

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>that one custom campaign that would've been great if it hadn't gotten fanfictiony

>>384804950
>>384804324

Yeah i don't understand it either, i guess the "We have met before" refers to the Colonel's freakout with the Panther's skin.

The part i don't understand is "I wish we could've met under different circumstances", but Richard only talks to people who are going down a bad path that leads into death, Beard never spoke to Richard, yet still died, so i don't get it

>>384805331
Do you think it's more towards the player? Since they watch the projector?

>>384804950
>>384805331
I think Richard is mostly associated with Jacket, so you could take it as "too bad Beard and Jacket had to meet in a time of war as soldiers and they never had a chance to be regular people who were just friends."

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>>384790381
I fucking love HM1&2. Literally one of the best stories ever told. Makes me sad that we won't get a game like it probably ever again but im glad it ended on a high note instead of milking the shit out of it until it turned into casual trash. *cough Dark Souls *cough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQNAc5HXXw

>>384805331
Richard is the concept of death, i think
He met Beard through all the killing at hawaii
He would have hoped he would have died naturally

I didn't understand ANYTHING about HM2.
Even with the help of the wiki, it's too difficult to be easily explained.

>>384805468
Beforehand Richard says "I'm not who you think I am" to Richter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE3M4CLhZAM

>>384805705
violence only leads to more violence
the ultimate act of violence, nuclear warfare, will end the cycle though

>>384805705
>Not understanding the one game of the two where LITERALLY everything is laid out for you to understand, unlike the first game

Dude what the fuck is wrong with you

>>384796163
Karma for killing Henchman.

1 thing I dont understand is when you replay the game in the opening scene Jacket is not present.

>>384805937
At least he's being honest. There was a thread the other day where some guy couldn't even grasp how Richter made it to Hawaii even though you literally play the level.

>>384790879
actually theres 3 timelines if you count Link never defeating Ganon

>>384805958
Tony just stood there, though, while everyone else killed him.

>>384805958
he's literally the only fan who doesn't participate in the henchman's killing though
if you play as him he just watches
if not he doesn't appear at all

>>384805958
Funny that you mention that, he is the only one of the Fans who didn't kill the Henchman, and the one that died last which i believe was the point

>>384805889
If fallout has taught me anything its that nuclear war doesn't change a damn thing.
People will kill each other until no one is left to kill.

>>384805498
One time I sent "Daisuke" to my girlfriend when she asked me for a song to listen while studying, some days later she sent me "You are the Blood" saying how she loved it and if not for me she'd never found it.

Everytime I play HM now I start missing her, kind of ruined the game a little for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_pBJN_O3M

>>384805963
Jacket is only a minor character and not playable in 2
There are also theories that he didn't actually die since his sprite doesn't get "splattered" in the nuke cutscene

>>384805963
Jacket had nothing to do with the events of Hotline Miami 2 and was in jail the whole time

It's like complaining Biker isn't there

RICHTER DID NOTHING WRONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiGG6S_1bpM

>>384806152
Tony is also the only one to realize the son is nearby. After you complete his floor in Death Wish he says something like "wait, I think I heard something," which is why he lives.

>>384805963
That's only because you don't play as him in 2, don't think too much into it.

>>384806201
the implication is that everybody who would've continued the violence died

>>384806330
All the characters at the table died though, Biker didn't.

>>384806114
>>384806123
Exactly, he gave up, pretty much begged to Pardo, saying he was done fighting, he was pretty much defenseless (all his friends dead), but Pardo shot him anyway.

Just like Henchman.

>>384799747
Homicide, Release and Apocalypse would make for great scenes

>>384806538
I hated Pardo when HM2 finished, i didn't even mind that he killed Tony, i just found the plot twist to be shit and I don't think Homicide and Dead Ahead happened at all, a single cop takes out almost 100 Drug dealers by himself and that doesn't make it into the news, nobody ever mentios it ever? I think it might be his delusions when he is actually murdering someone as the Mutilator

>>384806538
Most episodes with Pardo are his hallucinations. Tony's begging is hardly canonical, especially because the whole scene is absurd (Pardo allowed to enter the place and shooting him with no consequence).

>>384806905
Jesus you nailed it. Imagine the interesting things they could do visually with Apocalypse. Fuck I want to listen to Fauket right now.

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>>384807153
Probably not, because you can see the Son's corpse when you play as Pardo.

>>384801147
Anon don't bully them, they are total Bros.

>>384799747
I liked it. I don't see how they could've had a different ending without it feeling like a cop out. Considering they don't have intentions unfortunately for sequels, a nuke is a good way of closing the series.

>>384807404
I don't see how these are mutually exclusive.
Pardo imagined himself shining by being "cool" entering the scene and shooting one of the people who massacred the russians. In reality, Tony was already killed by the Son.

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>>384806207
Man I know the feel.
There was a girl I would spend ours on the phone with ever night. Like all the time for months.
And just as we were about to start a relation ship literally the same day I went and fucked around with another girl I wasnt even attracted to for no reason.
Of course she found out and she couldn't even talk to me or look at me. Math class was really bad because she sat right in front of me. She would always sit side ways on her chair so we could talk in class but that day she just sat normally, never turning or even glancing. Thats when I realized how much of a thing we had.
It never was the same after that. I think she eventually came to terms with it because even though I wasn't going to school years later I would always manage to run into her at events and get togethers or the like and she would always say something to me and not even seem angry. We never even talked about it. I never even got to say sorry and say how much she ment to me.
Any way I thing shes engaged now and I don't even know why the fuck im talking about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvL3DWq43iQ

>>384807118
Well, he wasn't shown given a statement after Dead Ahead, and we find out right after you finish it that there was a police raid planned to take place that night, you just happened to take it into your own hand and went in alone before the others arrived, so maybe some other cop talked to the media and told them that it was all a big operation.
As for killing lots of people on your own, that happens all the time in HM, Jacket took out all of the Russian mafia almost single handledly.

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>it ended at two titles before it could become shit

Hotline Miami is probably on the list of best games ever made

>>384800339
But he got successful because of the book

>>384798249
>MY TASTE IS FUCKING SUPERIOR HOLY SHIT I'M SO INTELLIGENT BECUASE I POST BAITS ON SOME ANIME FORUM
t. (you)

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>>384794696
It's fucking obviously a joke on the same tier as pic related, you moron.

Oh, and by the way, being an autist and defending Undertale is some pretty fucking stereotypical shit. Try and BREAK the mold, not fit it, mmkay?

>>384807715
We all have a story, anon. We have this one life, and sometimes it take a different path. It's tough, but we move on. I hope you find something like that again one day.

So what level would win the award for worst designed ever? Pick one for easy and one for hard mode.

>Easy
Stronghold
>Hard
Stronghold

Fuck that yellowish tint and those fucking long hallways

>>384797854
>>384798778
Anyone got a link for the whole thing? Could only find it online up to Issue 4, so far I'm really enjoying it.

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>>384801147
I'm okay with that. They made an amazing game, a great sequel, and left it at that. I'd be sad if they felt the need to suck every penny they could from Hotline Miami.

>>384808097
Stronghold is simple. My vote goes to Corey's floor in Deathwish (hard).

>>384807941
>Crusading
>a joke
Fucking fedora autist get the fuck out.

How did they fuck up wildlife so bad? It's like the writer never even played the games and the colorist was afraid of bright colors

>>384808428
Crusades didn't manage anything, I hope you know that.

They're literally a meme.

>>384808097
Dead ahead on both.

>>384808298
Corey's floor was my favorite, took me a while to get it perfectly, but when I managed to roll in on that crowded ass room, avoiding all gunfire, grabbed a gun from a guy I knocked over and just went running and gunning to the other end of it I felt amazing.
What didn't you like about it?

>>384808097
I actually hate Evans first level.
It's one of the hardest to a+ because half of the times his non-lethal punch executions don't work and they get back up if you do it too fast

I fucking love Hotline Miami. You know how some people look at a Picasso and say "I could do that."?
Hotline Miami feels like that. It seems like it takes a few simple concepts but the execution is fucking perfect in my eyes.
Even the fucking jokes about it still get me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu3bfOl91RQ

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>>384790381
No, it was Son.
You play as him in the final level and kill the other protagonists.

>>384808567
>first one slowed sandshit invasion by hundreds of years
>"didn't manage anything"

>>384808451
I agree on the colouring being ass but I don't get "the writer never even played the games" part. I've only read half ot it though.
The russian guy assuming the identity of the masked killer he killed was fucking retarded.

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>>384808672
Evan's my favorite character to play alongside Corey in 2, his first level is also pretty easy to A+ if you don't fuck up your combo, specially on the first floor where it's easy as fuck to get a huge one. If you can manage to combo the whole level you're set.

>TCHK TCHK TCHK

>>384808771
too much dialogue
weak backgrounds
not nearly enough action
hell the first issue was shit because it didn't have ANY action

Speaking of which, what the fuck is Pardo?
Even Richard doesn't know what Pardo is or wants.

All I can think of is that Pardo wants "his fifteen minutes of fame", especially considering that a camera crew flashes in the outro to Homicide, even though it's clear to him that his Miami Mutilator killings are clearly overshadowed by the mass murders performed by the Fans. This prompts him to later up the brutality by "mutilating" his victims postmortem, up to the point where he's so fed up with the Fans' fame that he shoots Tony to prevent him from getting any notoriety and forgetting to clean up the evidence at his final crime scene.

None of his levels seem to have any context either, besides "Caught", which is already a dream sequence. In "Homicide", he drives straight from the diner to the department store, where it just so happens that a robbery is taking place, and subsequently goes to a Miami Mutilator scene. The same goes for "Dead Ahead", where he plants the wallet of his next victim at Alex's house, while that same victim is in his trunk, tied up and gagged. When you get to the ship later, his trunk is empty, so it makes sense that he killed him and dumped the body at the building in the outro. But he couldn't have just decided to raid a Colombian ship of 100 in between him dumping the body and the police investigation.

No newspaper in the game mentions anything that Pardo does. You'd think stopping a robbery or killing an entire ship of gangsters would be cause for a news story. It happens throughout the story, and Pardo himself mentions that "they need buckets of blood to raise an eyebrow". Despite acknowledging this, he only kills one victim at a time. And all of the media attention in the game gets directed towards the Fans and the gang war between the Russians and the Colombians.

TBC

>>384808602
I'm a sucker for the twins, anon. It's honestly the part of HM2 that always gets me hyped up.

>>384802983
>It's only a game, didn't you have fun?
This shock the first time, I was actually expecting a point to everything.

>>384809009
He's based on Manuel Pardo, an actual serial killer who had a similar MO
Pardo had fantasies of cleaning the streets of scum which leads many to believe the levels are imagined

>>384808728
>invasion

Invasion of what? the turks? the saracens? Ottos werent even a thing when the first crusade happened

>>384809481
>sandniggers dindunuffin, they were good boys
(You)

>>384805705
watch youtube analysis

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>>384809114
Never quite got used to them.

>>384809741
That's amazing.

>>384809571
>i can only communicate in memes

whatever you larping faggot, deus vult amirite

>>384808084
Thanks anon.

>>384809925
Then fuck off you fedora redditor.
I hope you will enjoy taking satan's dick deep in your ass.

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>>384810186
what in the holy hell are you talking about
leave, and take your deus vult memes with you

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Thoughts?

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What games did he play?

>>384810318
>he enjoys getting his anus torn apart by demons
Not surprising.

>>384810375
meme campaigns have always been shit
>>384810384
Die Hard

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>>384810507
quit roleplayin my dude

>>384810507
i'm sure god will appreciate the fourth crusade, anon.

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>>384810535
>he didn't play real human been

>>384810695
I haven't watched Driver yet, are there some jokes I won't get?

>>384810590
>he enjoys sucking cocks in hell
What a faggot.
>>384810625
God will punish the sinners and reward the believers.

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>>384810535
Sorry, did you say not funny?

>>384810864
I know you're probably taking the piss, but in case you aren't prove that God is real

>>384810986
Rob's work has always been mediocre at best. Him and blue doctor are hacks

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>>384807715
>Have crush on girl in college
>Always together, hugging and shit
>Confide in another girl about really liking girl 1
>Girl 1 was just being friendly and I was apparently too used to social isulation so I couldn't tell the difference
>Move out of the city because of work
>Randomly find girl 2
>She says how she had a crush on me, all the while I was too retarded to see it
Truth is, I had a crush on 2 first but thought I was out of her league.
Now I'm here. On 4chan. Yet again.

>>384810695
>>384810986
shit, i forgot about that one
that's one actually pretty good
and that hawaii level in 2 turned me on to Dance with the Dead

>>384810375
>memes
I'm out

>>384811040
Trips and god is real.
dubs and its 50/50

>>384811040
>A fucking fedora faggot
Huge surprise there.
No, I won't prove that he is real because heretics don't deserve to see the light.
I was studying God's words, practicing his studies and now you want to hear the truth without any effort?
Get the fuck out of here.

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>>384811091
>realizing how big your own fuckups are
>realize to late

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc

>>384811091
Fuck anon, reminds me of this one girl I almost dated in high school, but her friends kept trying to convince her to not bother with me. We remained close friends, and I'm positive we would have dated if one frustrated evening I didn't get drunk and actively pursue a mutual friend. We lost contact for a bit and rekindled later, but at that point I was already in a long term relationship still am. I'm positive these days however that If that weren't the case and I sought her out, that it would happen instantly. Too bad she drinks a bit too much and doesn't have shit else going for her. But she's still incredibly nice and I miss those hugs.

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>>384811081
>mediocre
Creating new sprites from zero is a hard work to do, it shows that he atleast put some effort in it and not reskining + the ending is funny

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Detective Manny Pardo is the true hero of the series

>>384811721
That was a fantastic campaign, if for no other reason than that cat resprite for Henchman.

>>384811721
creating sprites is easy the fuck are you on
and arent the enemies in Mating season literally global fill reskinned?

>>384811421
great flawed rhetoric there
I don't see how doubting the existence of a supreme being makes me a fedora.
I have also studied God (perhaps not as extensively as you) and, most important of all, I studied History, and almost everything that is written in the old testament are just old legends and myths from older civilisations
Besides, there is nothing in the Bible that proves, with concrete evidence, that God exists. It just says ''God did everything, God is the Word, and the Word is God'' and all that shit, which doesn't prove shit, considering that's exactly what every other religion does.

>>384811230
BTFO

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>tfw Tony saw all of his friends die and possible close friend die in his hands
that's pretty sad, man

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>>384811629
Not to turn this into a "muh feels" thread but I hate the fact that I literally have nothing in my life that I could blame on someone else. Wasn't abused, molested, bullied, taken advantage of. My fuckups are just my own but these past few days they've been creeping back up and it gets fucking overwhelming. Just thinking how life could've been so different with the simpler change.

>>384812289
Exactly what I was saying.
Only those who are worthy can know truth about the God.
According to your posts you will always live in the world without God, so you will always try to fit in to that world no matter what.
I wish I could help you but your soul is already corrupted and only you can fix it now.
But what you will do now is your choice.

>>384812646
Tony was an idiot who died begging for his life like a coward, he doesn't deserve sympathy

>>384813042
Hey Pardo.

>>384813220
Fuck off Corey.

>>384813042
t. pardo internet defence force

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>>384812679
we all just such shits

>>384810384
Narc.

>>384812926
>disregarding all my arguments
this is why I can't take you guys seriously.
I donate to charity, I volunteer, I sometimes even speak to homeless persons, and you try to tell me God would damn me for eternity?
I have a feeling God wouldn't damn me for eternity just because I refuse to believe everything I hear, and that I would rather think for myself and choose the most logical answer

Besides, If God exists, he's most likely exactly as Spinoza described him, and if you consider Spinoza to be a heretic and disregard everything I said you can get the fuck out of here

I'm open-minded, but still skeptical. I know I am most likely wrong, and what I desire the most is the truth, and right now logic provides me with what seems to be the closest to the truth. If you were to provide me with an unbeatable argument, a flawless reasoning of God's existence, I would become the most devout fucking Christian you'd have ever met

What's your highest ranking on any level?
Sub 40 on First Trial

>>384813812
>he thinks he can buy a ticket to Heaven
It's doesn't matter how much money you give to the charity, it doesn't matter how good of a person you are, if you are aware of teachings from God and you refuse to believe in them He definetely won't say "that's fine, whatever".
>Besides, If God exists, he's most likely exactly as Spinoza described him, and if you consider Spinoza to be a heretic and disregard everything I said you can get the fuck out of here
And why would I listen to some "intellectual" that didn't even had contact with God?
And again, I won't tell you the truth about God because you could find it on your own.
You are an adult, I won't lead you by a hand.
Nothing comes without any effort.

>>384814773
Used to be top 10 in some HM2 levels the first couple of weeks, nowadays I think my best ranking is sub 400, and ever since I started playing again I wasn't able to break a single of my old highscores.

>>384815129
>can't be bothered to help or teach his fellow man
>thinks he's getting into heaven
You seem selfish anon.

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>>384790381
A little curious fact about the Richter and the ending:

In First Blood's intro when Richter talks to his mom laying in bed, she says she had a strange dream about him and his FATHER staring out into the sea, and that something BAD was about to happen.

This is a foreshadow of what actually happens in the end, but what is curious is her mentioning his father is in the dream, because as we know Richter dies with Richard beside him.

So it got me thinking, maybe Richard is Richter's father?

Also, First Blood was the first hit from 55b against the russian mob, and guess who've done it? Yes, our guy.

Is Martin Brown a Pardo fantasy?

>>384801826
I didn't think this was too horrible.
https://youtu.be/xJuR48PSCW8

>>384815350
You are proving my point even further how blind you are to the truth.
But remember, time is ticking and nobody lives in this world forever.

>>384815456
I've read that the Colonel/Brandon could be Richter's father. Things like the military cot in Richter's house and the locked room with military memorabilia were used to draw the connection.

>>384815703
>>384815350
why are you guys arguing about religion in a video game thread on a korean metallurgy forum

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>>384815129
>if you are aware of teachings from God and you refuse to believe in them He definetely won't say "that's fine, whatever".
I don't refuse to believe them because I'm a stubborn fucktard, you know
I try to do this logically, like every goddamn fucking adult should, and by using logic (which may be proven wrong someday) I can clearly see that God can't be proven.

>And why would I listen to some "intellectual"
I don't claim to be an intellectual, I just want to know the actual truth, not the 'truth'' provided by logical fallacies like most spiritual persons do

>that didn't even had contact with God?
Come in contact with God? Why didn't I think of that! It's so simple! It's not like I fucking tried when I was younger, and like Spinoza I found that he didn't fucking answer back. My goal is pure: to know the truth, and then spread it. Honestly, I almost act like a goddamn christian, the only difference being that I don't believe in God because of lack of evidence

>>384815703
MMH YES GIVE ME MORE LOGICAL FALLACIES I LIKE IT

>>384815819
It's saturday afternoon and I don,t have anything better to do

>>384815463
Martin has to be real, since the girl that kills him appears at the end credits sitting alone in her home/appartment.

Honestly the only fucking game I can't wait for its release

>>384815749
Yeah I've read that too, but I don't think that's the case. Imo the military stuff is there to show he served in the army too, that's why he's "used" to using guns and killing people.

>>384811421
You can't be serious .. Are you?
Please don't be. Please

>>384816056
It looks like you are doomed.
I was giving you a chance to see the truth but there is nothing to do now.
I hope you will atleast stretch your ass and apply tons of lube before your death because it will hurt otherwise.
>>384816550
Sorry, I've already argued with one fedora today, I don't have patience for another one.

When I first played the Evan levels I didn't realize you had to dismount from the finishers. I figured that once you started pummeling someone you had to finish them and at that point you were paralyzed by the realization of murder.

It wasn't until I got to the Abyss, after my first playthrough, that I realized you just had to press space again to dismount someone you knock out...

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>>384816647
nice logical fallacies, retardus maximus

>I was giving you a chance to see the truth
How? By telling me I was wrong, without telling me what was wrong?

>Sorry, I've already argued with one fedora today, I don't have patience for another one.
you didn't fucking argue, you just disregarded my entire posts, put a finger in your ass and went ''SEE DA LIGHT DUUURRR''

I hope you enjoy the empty void of the ''afterlife''

>>384816738
The best thing I realized is that when you you knock someone out with Evan's finisher, you can click again and quickly dismount to threaten them and add onto your combo.

>>384811421

>dude I'm right just trust me lmao

>>384817101
Wait what? How does this work exactly? You do the finisher, and then click once more and dismount? Is it the first bloody punch?

>>384816953
See how fucking empty you are?
You are nothing but a rat that somehow avoided getting poisoned or stomped in his lifetime but don't worry, God never forgets anyone and he will always find punishments that will hurt the most.
In other words, you will die painfully and after death you will have no one that will back you up.
>>384817121
Sorry, not arguing with another fedora.

>>384817341
low point man

>>384817341
After you knock em out with two punches (or one melee hit), click again and Evan will raise his arm/weapon.
Dismount before he is done.

>>384815749
>Brandon

Who

>>384817393

>dude I'm smarter than you just trust me lmao

>>384817881
Purple panther mask

>>384817989
>He didn't read the part where I said I'm not arguing with other fedoras anymore

>>384818152

>figuratively saying he's smarter than everyone
>call others fedora

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>>384817393
>See how fucking empty you are?
>You are nothing but a rat that somehow avoided getting poisoned or stomped in his lifetime but don't worry, God never forgets anyone and he will always find punishments that will hurt the most.
>In other words, you will die painfully and after death you will have no one that will back you up.
wew lad, what a great christian you are, wishing death and an eternity of unbearable and unimaginable pain upon me! I'm sure Jesus will give you a pat in the back!
I thought Jesus preached that we should teach a man to fish, so how about teaching me the road to the truth? Keep in mind, the Bible does not prove the existence of God

How about we let God be the judge of my actions, eh big guy?

So far you have not given none, not even a single ONE argument that God indeed exists.

Prove to me that Buddha wasn't right

>>384818147
Why would that be Richter's dad...?

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>>384818479
they're both bald

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>>384818152
I'm not even sure if this is bait

>>384818384
Looks like you learned about Nice Jesus
Good thing I know about Jesus the Judge
Instead of being all "Just be nice to everyone" he is someone you don't fuck with.
He gives everyone who is against him penalties that only satan knows about.
And you look like you are going straight to the court.
I don't feel empathy for people like you, they get millions of chances to convert but refuse for whatever reason.
Keep going that way, it will be hilarious to hear your screams.
>>384818895
>anon is blind

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>>384819048
I wasn't talking about that post in specific, I'm talking all of your replies, because you calling people "fedoras" contradicts your persistence to argue with this one guy about how he will suffer for an eternity or something

>>384819494
>he learned about Christianity from the media
Of course they will say how Christianity is all about being nice.

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>>384819048
LISTEN HERE FUCKO, I'M GETTING REAL TIRED OF YOUR SHIT
I DON'T CONSIDER JEHOVA'S WITNESSES KNOCKING AT MY DOOR AND TALKING ABOUT JESUS TO BE A CHANCE TO CONVERT, BUT A CHANCE TO ARGUE, WHERE THEY ALL FAILED BY USING RETARDED FUCKING FALLACIES THAT ANYONE WITH A UNIVERSITY DEGREE CAN REFUTE
I don't consider catholic or protestant pamphlets filled with sophistical bullshit to be a good argument for the existence of God.

Do you see? what I need, more than anything else is PROOF
Something that nobody could fucking give me.

As I have said before, if you give me the secret to enlightenment, I will become the most devout believer in existence. Without substantial proof, It's impossible for me to believe to such an extreme claim, which is the logical way to act. I believe God should reward those with reason and altruism, instead of gullible retards who believe what the Pope tells em

If that is how you act in real life, you are on of the most hypocritical, despicable human being I have ever met, and I hope that one day God will come to you and say ''nigga chill sheeit''

yes I mad

>>384819954
Do you honestly think I will help you convert?
You really are pathetic, people like you are just like kikes that search for another coin, they all want something and they do nothing in return.
I honestly can't wait for the Judgement Day so people like you will get sent for eternal torture while acting surprised.

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>>384820331
and a good day to you, you immoral beast

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Name exactly one thing he did wrong. This world was incurable an had to be purged.

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>>384820583
The world doesn't have to be nuked
I can think of an alternative

>>384818479
The military motifs used to draw the connection are mentioned in the post.

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>>384820583
He caused the death of Richter