Give me a reason not to buy this mouse.

>>384772352
You can buy that logitech one all the cool kids have, the one with the perfect sensor, the one with the weights.

>>384772352
>using KB+M
KB+M is for work, controllers are for play.

The only reason KB+M is still used is because of poorfags who can't afford a controller.

>>384772352
g403.

>>384772427
loving every laugh

>ambidextrous

>>384772427
>poorfags who can't afford a controller.
you probably own $200+ controller then

>>384772536
I rest my hand on my mouse flatter because I have three fingers on the top instead of two, so ambidextrous shapes feel better to me

>>384772352
as a zowie fanboy that's only bought zowie mice for years and years and hates logitech I have to admit the g-pro is better

no zowie mice is bad, though, if you really want a zowie mouse then buy one

>>384772352
I prefer the ec2-a, but yes zowie is great
no bullshit software

>>384772427
Almost like worshiping apple

>>384772352
You're probably going to kill yourself soon anyway so why bother

>>384772612
Do those still have the annoying scroll wheel LED you can't turn off?

>>384772352
Just buy what you want, it's not a bad mouse, but it's not also the best mouse

Just make sure that if fits on your hand really well, I made that mistake and had to buy a smaller mouse.

>inb4 babby hands

>>384772352
If you want a wired mouse get the Logitech M500.
If you want a wireless mouse get the Logitech M705.

Stay away from gaming mice filled with LEDs like Logitech's G series since they tend to break fast.

Guys, is a Asus RoG Claymore Core worth it? It lacks numpads which kinda sucks but I can get one for 700$?

>>384772427
Try playing a cRPG or RTS with a controller

>>384772352
Cheap Huano clicks
mouse buttons connected to shell
worthless scroll wheel
worst side buttons
3310 sensor when 3360 exists

its not a g400

>>384772352
Because the G403 exist

Great mouse but Zowie quality control is shit

Zowie hasn't been good since they were acquired by BenQ.

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How's this mouse?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OHJY7C2

>>384772883
Get the 303 not the 302
It's better than the Gpro

>>384772352
Ambidextrous a shit

>>384772883
It works okay if you hold it at an angle, but unless you like using claw grip then find something else.

>>384772867
>>384772874
so better than logitech then

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>>384772570
>I have three fingers on the top instead of two

>>384772352
It *needs* a mousepad to work. It's a great mouse, but coming from mice that worked on any surface takes getting used to. Got a really nice big plastic Corsair mousepad with it (hard plastic, I hate cloth). Worked perfectly for years now, the DPI button come in handy sometimes too.

>>384773181
each button gets a finger

>>384772702
>get the Logitech M500
>144 grams

>>384772352
I have one and I've never been happier with a mouse, I don't see myself upgrading any time soon.

>>384773219
Are you a diagnosed retard?

>>384772352
A Deathadder is unironically the best mouse.

>>384773271
no

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Wat mous has 10+ buttons, perfect sensor, fits like logitech to hand and you can grip without pushing buttons down?

>>384773398
G503

typical poorfag and logitech brainlet responses itt

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If your mouse is not on this list don't even fucking bother.

G Pro or G203?

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>>384772352
I've been wanting to try out the FK2 but all zowie mice having 3310 sensors still puts me off

>>384772352
Get a roccat kone pure owl eye instead.
It's a tier above.

>>384773743

shit meme tier list

the old one from 2015 I believe was way better

>>384773038
Not everyone uses the inferior right hand, anon

>>384773743
>standards for click latency
>higher click meme latency than any of the other mice in the other tiers

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>Go to a tech store and pick up a random mouse
>Proceed to play twitch shooters
>Trigger a million autists in doing so

>>384772352
click resistance far too high. this is genuinely the reason why i stopped using mine pretty quickly.

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Friendly reminder that Zowie and Razer use Chinese switches with 1/5 the rated actuation life span of Logitech's Japanese Omron switches

Friendly reminder that Zowie uses 2-generations-old PMW3310 sensors, and Razer uses the generation-old PMW3360 sensor, while Logitech uses the state-of-the-art zero smoothing ultra-low-input-delay PMW3366

Friendly reminder that the G Pro weighs a mere 83 grams

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This is hands down the best mouse to get right now.
>Superb sensor
>Extremely light weight
>Great ergonomic design, fits claw/finger/palm grips and has a great feel
>Simple but elegant design, not looking like those over-designed gaymurrr mice by Asus/Corsair/Razer
>Sells for a comfy price of just 45 USD
How can other mice even compete?

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>>384772352
Still using the GOAT mouse after 10 years

>>384777702
The G403 is good if you have giant nigger hands, the G Pro is smaller and weighs 5 less grams though.

got a logitech G300s for $35 the other day
very happy with it so far

>>384777269
I don't think you're 'triggering' anyone from the silver division, sweetie.

>>384772352
I have one. It's pretty good, and surprisingly it hasn't started double clicking yet which typically ends up happening on "gaming" mice.

>>384777763
why'd you dent it you fucking retard

>>384778035
Don't worry, you're a good marketing victim and you picked a mouse with cheapo Chinese huano switches. Within the year it will start to doubleclick or stop actuating entirely. Looks like you should've bought Logitech.

>>384777906
>Can't hold a G403
Manlet please

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>>384777963
And here comes the triggered autist

>>384778095
I've had this mouse for over a year and a half.

On the contrary, my previous mouse, a logitech started doubleclicking on both mouse buttons after three months of comparatively light use.

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The ideal mouse right now is whichever one is lightest weight and uses the PMW3366. The next best option is the WMO which you can overclock to 8khz.

G Pro > G403 > G502 > WMO > razer > zowie > steelseries

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>>384772427
>mfw i play both on controller and KB+M

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>>384778079
heh, you funny

>>384778193
>On the contrary, my previous mouse, a logitech started doubleclicking on both mouse buttons after three months of comparatively light use.
Sounds like faulty hardware which could happen to any company, I had Logitech mouse for 4 years and the buttons never did that. The only problem was that the wire got loose and started making the mouse cut out, and Logitech still sent me a free replacement.

>>384778317
>making webms of overwatch

lol

you sure sniped him good!! what with his hit box being 3 times bigger than his model, and you killed the other guy good what with having babymode halo melee attack and wallhack

just rofl why make a webm of this

Best mouse for low sens CS:GO, buy it OP.

It has like a 5 m/s malfunction speed where as most mice are lucky to hit 3. Lightweight, no bullshit "16.8 million color" lcd displays or transformer fidget spinners jutting out everywhere to inflate the price tag.

>>384778095
>Logitech
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

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>>384778635
Does this make you feel inferior?

>>384778690
>It has like a 5 m/s malfunction speed where as most mice are lucky to hit 3

Zowie mice have the worst high-speed tracking performance of any current gen mouse because they use the ancient Avago 3310 sensor to save money. See >>384777697

>>384778317
>That autoaim
Epic

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>>384778786
Thanks my bud, here is my future-divining rocket aimbot too

>>384778783
I'll never understand why people post webms of them cheating. Your aimbot is not impressive mate.

>>384778862
I don't think you realize how retarded you are

>>384778635
Overwatch is literally a forced meme. Blizard just threw lots of money at it to force it into "e-sport" status. The whole thing felt so fake and out of left field, yet casuals gobbled it up because they wanted to press Q for ez 5k with announcer voice to pat them on the back

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Inferior mice for inferior men

The digital alpha male chooses Logitech

>>384778862
Why do people have those obnoxious bold names?

>>384778770
Good counterargument Anon

>>384778935
>>384778786
Silver 2's confirmed. Git gud fgts

>>384779000
>just threw lots of money at it to force it into "e-sport" status.
That's how it is for most popular e-sport games. They're all unbalanced and have glaring flaws but they're ignored by the pros because they want to get that money and they're ignored by the wanna-be pros because they don't want to hear it and think everyone else needs to git gud. I don't think people who compete for fun play those games.

>>384779184
Have you ever played an actual arena shooter? Ya know, those games that don't have giant casual babby hitboxes where everyone moves at a snails pace

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>>384779318
I played quack champagnes beta, was pretty bad. Severe engine/netcode issues

>>384779184
I know Blizzard doesn't ban people, but I wonder if they would ban a guy this blatantly hacking if I sent them the webms. Probably not since it's lootbox money out of their pocket but still. Maybe they'd make an exception for something THIS obvious.

>>384772352
>guy posts some webms he made
>screeching autists immediately go in screech mode
This is why this board is dead

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>>384779419
This collage would be 4x-5x as big by now if I bothered to keep it up to date. I've never been punished with anything except mutes for calling streamers names

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>>384777702
Other mice compete by not having a shitty rattling scroll wheel, sensor lenses that stay in fucking place, and a cable that doesn't actively fight against you.

The G703 may have corrected those issues finally, but the G403 was an absolute shitshow in terms of quality control.

See those little clear spots in the sensor assembly?
Those are plastic posts that connect the lens to the rest of the sensor.
Logitech couldn't fasten them properly to save their lives on the G403.

Before you guys jump in here and claim Logitech fixed those problems in later batches; no they didn't.
Months after this supposed fix, I got a latest batch G403 with a lens so loose that it caused cursor jumps at 800dpi out of the box.
The next one I got still had to be opened to correct the issue with the mouse wheel.
Many others reported the same.

The G303 to G403 era was an extreme drop in Logitech's usual solid build quality.
Hopefully they learned their lesson with the G703/G903.
G900 was fine.

>>384772409

You can buy that Zowie one that all the cool kids have, the one with the perfect sensor, the one with the shitty buttons, the one with the bad coating, the one with the OEM shapes, the "pure" one.

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>>384779403
>OverQuake
>Railgun babby
Typical

>>384779530
The scroll wheel and lens were fixed after the very first batch of G403's, it's not possible to get a defective one anymore unless you're buying second hand

G Pro is the better mouse anyway

>>384779501
Yea, like I said, Blizzard doesn't ban people. Money is more important.

>>384779419
So one or two flick shots is hacking? Have you even played an FPS before?

>>384779549
There is no such thing as a perfect sensor and Zowie mice have the worst sensor of all current-gen mice. Zowie mice use the Avago 3310 sensor, which is two generations old. Zowie mice also use Chinese Huano switches rated very generously by the manufacturer at 10 million actuations, while Logitech uses Japanese Omrons rated at 50 million actuations.

>>384779670
If that was true then they would ban people to make them buy the game again

>>384779680
>hits literally nothing but headshots
>every single time in every single webm
I miss the old days of CoD and such when you could just call an admin and he would instantly kick the hacker from the server. Nowdays, not only is there no moderation on servers and no vote kicks even, you also get retards like this actually defending hackers. And you will actually get punished if you leave a game that has a hacker in it. It's a sad time for video games.

>>384779645
Read the full post.
It was never actually fixed.

Mice directly from Logitech, and even their RMA replacements have had these issues reported in even the latest batches.

>>384779930
They put down motherboard bans for hackers

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>>384779980
You're going to have to find some way to rationalize your inferiority, that one will do fine.

>>384778783
>Does this make you feel inferior?

does this make you feel inferior?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWJKDzGWo7U

call me when you can handle a real game

>>384780041
It's not possible to spoof hardware IDs?

>>384780134
>inferiority
>he says while continuing to post epic Overshill webms
Buddy, please

>>384779000
I got it and played it 20 hours and im a person who bemoaned the death of arena fps. its not an arena fps or even close in gameplay though

the game feels so fucking empty and dead 3/4 of the time, unlike a game like tf2 where people are always in both sides of the map

>>384780281
No

>>384779980
Maybe he's just showing the times he's been succesful in hitting things?

I've played with a dude who can do this sorta flicking in a LAN party

>>384780391
I kind of doubt that

>>384779980
>WHAAAA he got a HEADshot mommy hes haxoring!!!!
Please uninstall all of your FPS games. I find kiddies like you calling hax on me and others more annoying than the actual hackers.

>>384780391
I've adminned for a game where we do hardware-ID based bans, the russians have a few kits to spoof them in return for getting added to a bot-net, obviously. Hell, you can use a VM to spoof it if you only get banned in the VM

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>>384780249
>call me when you can handle a real game

I'll call you when it's physically possible to play Q3, there are 2 people ingame currently. I've played thousands of hours more quake than you, I didn't get like this overnight.

Did you know the #1, #2, and #3 Quake duelists all play, or played, Overwatch? And they had AWFUL results, not only in tournaments but in ranked play. Rapha, who is the #1 dude in Quake, hovered at ~3800 SR. The grandmaster threshold is 4000 SR. I'm 4500 SR.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Rapha
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/COOLLER
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/CYpheR

>>384780458
>Succesful in hitting
>In Overshill
That's an achievement assuming he's playing with one arm and one bad eye

>thinking there is a difference between mid-top level mice (99% of gaming mice)
>thinking aim matters
LOL. Grow up, literally any mouse will grant you the same tracking +/- 2-3%. It doesn't matter anyway since brainlets never win in games, despite their superior aim.

>>384778317
The curved edges on the G Pro make its size unacceptable for anyone but babbyhands players.

I can get fantastic aim results with it, but it is just too uncomfortable for prolonged use.
Straight sides would have made it fine.

That and the click tension is just a bit too light to properly rest your fingers on it without fearing accidental clicks.

Why can't something between the G Pro and the G403 exist?
A G900 shell with less bullshit, less weight, and a normal scroll wheel / middle button would be almost perfect, too.

>>384780547
It's almost like the OW meta and gameplay focuses on other factors than core FPS skills, huh! Also, lol @ including a bunch of duelists for a team oriented game.

>>384780134
>proudly flaunting webms of a program (which you probably paid for) doing the aiming for you in a video game
I'm not the inferior here laddy, I actually play the games myself. Keep posting though.

>>384780547
wow you're better at fps than top quake pros

or it could just be that overwatch has a minimal skill ceiling so people with exceptional skill can't actually play it

>like this
what, making the same shots an average quake3 player made? it's laughable to see you hyping yourself up like this and posting your webms constantly. it's a baby game

>>384780478
Damn you're an idiot. Like you're genuinely mentally handicapped.

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is the guy shilling for logitech and overwatch being ironic?

>>384780773
>thinking you need a program to hit a hitbox that takes up 1/3rd of the screen
I just pray you're trying to bait.

>>384780773
it's embarrassing that you think he's posting anything impressive enough that it would constitute hacking

the guy is taking close to 100ms to shoot stationary targets. this guy actually could not make it in comp level quake

>>384780864
Shilling a dying forced e-sport meme game and incredibly mediocre mouse manufacturer with godlike support? More likely than you think.

>>384780773
Either learn to aim or stick to CoD kiddo

>>384779726

I know senpai, I was taking a jab at this retard.
Huanos are fucking horrible and Zowie is quite overpriced for what it offers, and its not much anyway.

>>384780773
You're pathetic, He's clearly not hacking.

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>>384780547
So an independent skill game vs an objective-based team game?
I can't imagine how there isn't a 1:1 translation between performance in those two...

Also, not that the shots are bad, but what you've shown is absolutely nothing special compared to what was seen on a regular basis in late 90s - early 2000s Q3 and Tribes.

>>384780134
>I'm sooo gud! :)
>while playing Overkek
lol, keep crying kiddo

>>384780773
>flicking not even that fast is now aimbotting

this is what nu-/v/ has come to

>>384780903
>>384780934
>>384781053
>>384781114
Yup, a sad time for video games.

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>>384781280
They haven't even seen the real robot-looking onens

>>384780832
I get it. You're a 30 year old salty Silver who has 1500 hours yet still can't hit an AWP flick shot. Frustrated with lack of skill you dillude yourself into thinking everyone else is hacking. All the pros are hacking too right? It's so funny to hear guys like you raging on their mic with that washed up smoker voice just because I got a couple headshots.

>>384772352
sure go ahead it's a go-
>red logo
don't

>>384781425
I don't get it

>>384781156
Lol, what games do gud people play then Mr Hardcore guy?

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>>384781478

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Reminder that if you're an inferior gamer it's probably best that you pick mice more your level, ideally Razer or BenQ. Please leave Logitech mice for digital alpha males. You'll dilute the brand.

>>384781478
real games for real gamers

>>384781380
150 hours with months apart and other things in between. There has been a whole controversy of pros hacking in Overwatch, and Blizzard has banned thousands of hackers from that game. It was even discussed here for some time and there were videos posted. Just be aware that there is no one more pathetic than hackers in video games. You don't affect me, I can just leave, but I'm not the only player who's game you're ruining. You not only ruin the game for the other team, but for your own as well. Also, again
>couple headshots
>every single shot is a headshot in every single webm
You seem to be unable to comprehend things, so I'll stop arguing with you now.

>>384781309
No, I get accused of aimbotting on the daily in the FPS games I play and I know an aimbot when I see one. This guy is just playing with a very heavy flick style, you're just seeing highlight clips of his best flicks, which to the uninformed might appear as a hack, but if you saw him play for 30 minutes you would see how he isn't aimbotting.

I honestly don't think I have to do that to tell that this guy isn't aimbotting. You're just another shitstain incapable of getting good at aiming so you have to call hacks on someone who actually can.

>>384772352
because its not the logitech mx518

>>384780547
how long have you been practicing the flicking shit m9?

>>384777763
can confirm this mouse is the AK-47, the honda accord of mice, its indestructible

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>>384782072
Forever, picked the habit up as a youngster because I had a small mousepad unsuitable for tracking

>>384781727
>150 hours
Am I misunderstading something here? 150 hours is pleb noob level

>Blizzard has banned thousands of hackers from that game
uh that's cool, no hackers in this thread though

>every single shot is a headshot in every single webm
You clearly havn't watched them all then


Like go load up CS and the aim_botz map and practice some flick shots. After a while of practice it's pretty easy to get some aim bot looking insta-flicks. Or hell just go spectate a 1v1 server to see some amazing shit. Just please learn to aim before trying to call hax.

>Keeps posting Overshill in a mouse thread
How much Blizz paying you

That's actually the mouse that I use OP.

I like it. It was also my first "gaymen" mouse with those side buttons though, so I only got 2 (the 3rd button near the middle mouse is detected by literally no games for some reason, and that's apparently not a glitch but completely normal for every user) so it wouldn't be distracting if I didn't like them.

In hindsight I could've easily gotten a mouse with 4 or more buttons on the side. But it feels nice in my hand and is responsive and shit.

>>384782478
You see Billy, Overwatch is a "First person Shooter" where the players use "aim" to hit targets. This "aim" is often achieved using a mouse.

>>384782872
That "Aim" is often achieved serverside and the games programmed in auto aim

>>384782872
Back in my day, shooters had hitboxes that atleast somewhat fit the actual model

>>384782975
That Warowl video is outdated, they fixed the hitboxes a while ago. But please prove me wrong because I hate Overmeme too and would love some more ammo to use against it

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poorfags BTFO

Ergonomics > Sensor > Click Latency
That's why mice are all personal preference.

>>384783332
See center-left chart of >>384777697 to learn why the Deathadder Elite is bad.

>>384783492
A bunch of technical terms that have no real effect on real life performance? How horrible. Go into any server with practice mode, and use a tracking gun with both mice and you will see that your % is virtually identical. Stop falling for marketing memes.

>>384783785
There are no mice which market using testing data, they all market using worthless DPI caps because consumers (especially esports fans) are braindead and can only understand extremely basic concepts.

DUDE FLICKS LMAO

For the record flick shots are unreliable even for the best players and should only be practiced for situations where the enemy catches you offgaurd, not for every kill. Work on cross hair placement to achieve more consistent results

>>384780134
there's no reason to even be flicking back and forth like this. this is literal autism.

>>384784526
>t. silver ranked sage full of wonderful silver advice

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>>384784657
It feels good

>>384784672

t. all aim and no brain can't escape gold "because of his teams"

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>>384784825
I can't escape ~4500 actually, and it's not for lack of trying--I frequently attempt to throw games with torbjorn and fail because I'm just too good

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>>384772352
There isnt one

If its in a sale

>>384784957
hey dude any suggestions on improving aim/flicking? my reaction time feels like shit when I try to track

>>384785528
Play more
Get a 144hz monitor

>>384772679

Mine doesn't have any LEDs. Related story:

>trying out new FK2 at work
>co-worker sees the box and says "oh you bought a new mouse"
>yeah it's a gaming mouse
>really? doesn't really look like one

What is this flick meme everyone keeps talking about

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>>384772352
i really like my 10+ year old mouse and this mouse has the same shape, except the sides of my dell mouse are a little more concave. is this zowie mouse good? any other similar designs you can recommend, /v/? i'm also going to buy a few of the same dell mouse i have since they've pretty cheap

I own that mouse and it's pretty decent. I mainly bought it since it feels good in my hand and didn't look like a transformer.

I own a Deathadder Chroma and I swear it double clicks when I try to single click sometimes. I don't know if it's a setting I have fucked up or what but I am debating getting a new mouse. How are Ducky mice? Worth it or should I just get Logitech?

>>384778317
>spazzing out after clicking
lmao