Shadow of war

>>384765454
Nobody cares, dork.

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>>384765454
Why didn't she just seduce the hobbits?

>>384765454

I want to fuck Shelob.

But yeah, it's fucking retarded.

>buys on sale for $5 two years later

>>384765454
thats dumb

go read a book nerd lmao

>muh lore
Nobody cares fuccboi, monster girls are a fine addition to any game

Finally taking a page from eastern devs.
MAKE EVERYTHING A CUTE GIRL!
At least they're halfway there.

>>384765618
>>384765594
>>384765539
LEAVE

>>384765618
>put a game on the "muh lore" unniverse
>complain when people don't like the lore rape
Oh gee

>>384765454
Ungoliant chose to take the form of a spider. It's actually a thing. It's dubious but there.

>>384765454
>giving a shit about lotr

F.A.G

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I don't really care.
You can't touch Tolkien, you can only clone the work and rape the clone.

>>384765669
it is never implied that Shelob is anything near as powerful as Ungoliant or with the same abilities. She's a giant spider.

>>384765454
>Concerned about lore
>In a game about the totally not oc that created the one ring, raised an army and fought sauron head on, died, and is now back as some kind of revenge ghost
Fuck off, retard

Lorefags are fags for a reason. They just can't keep their mouth shut, and canon is canon. "Don't mess with it. Don't put any ideas into it. LEAVE IT ALONE REEE." That's how you weird fuckers are. It's like you shits can't see that Revenge of the Sith is as good as Empire Strikes Back. And the same with this game, where the established lore cannot be disturbed. Even though, the idea of this is quite good, since it gives Shelob much more character. You can relate to its problems now. But of course, the lorefags deem it not to be, so reeeing there shall be.

But can you fuck it

>>384765762
I complained about that as well when the first one came out. This is even worse

Do you cry about Star Wars Pod Racer or LEGO Avengers or whatever being noncanon too? It's a fucking video game, who gives a shit about the "lore" implications?

>>384765454
Not sure why you care anymore when the first game already fucked with the lore.

>>384765770
The star wars comparison is bullshit. Lucas came up with both. This is different because they are fucking Tolkiens works, not their own

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>>384765628
>Make everything a cute girl
>Cute troll lolis
>Cute orc lolis
>One of the nazgul turns out to be 2 lolis standing on top of eachother
>Sauron's true form is a loli
>Morgoth was a loli
>Eru Iluvatar is a loli as well

>>384765757
Shapeshifting and illusion are tricks. Of course Shelob is nowhere near as powerful. Ungoliant was a monster that almost chomped Morgoth.

Technically, Ungoliant and therefore Shelob are things alien to the creation of the world. They're elder horror level fuckery. Origins left vague.

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>>384765770
>It's like you shits can't see that Revenge of the Sith is as good as Empire Strikes Back

This is clearly an elf posting.

>>384765770
Tolkien himself had a rather dim view of "canon" and constantly rewrote everything. In addition, he wrote that he wished for Lord of the Rings to be a living body of work that could be added to by other artists.

You can argue about what's "worthy" art all you want, but to dismiss everything out of hand because of a dogmatic view of LotR lore is the very opposite of the spirit of the work.

So, yes, monomaniac lorefags are assholes.

>>384765806
If the first one bothered you so much, why even take the time to get mad at the second one? Are you that desperate for something to get angry about?

>>384765983
don't so much, I'm just in awe that they could fuck it even worse.

>>384765454
I was at the sdcc panel, they said she took that form to seduce Talion and gain his trust, doubt this explanation helps though.

>>384765669
>Ungoliant chose to take the form of a spider

And never, ever changed it. Seems doubtful that her daughter would posses the abiity to change shape at will.

>>384766024
You obviously do though, since you can't seem to stop whinning about "lore". The games are shit, but you don't have to find out everything about them so you can feel offended. Tell me, do you read every LOTR fanfic in order to judge wether Frodo sucking futa elf cock can fit in with Tolkiens lore?

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She's pretty hot, but fucking Christ, that is the dumbest shit ever. Her actual form looks like ass too.
>>384765669
>chooses
That's never really stated. It could be that a spider is how she's perceived by other beings.

>>384766024
It's an interpretation of lore you nimrod, not a 1 for 1 history of middle earth class.

>>384765454
How is the lore being raped?

>>384765770
>since it gives Shelob much more character
Shelob doesn't have a character. It's a primordial force that exists only to consume. It's not supposed to be relatable, it's supposed to be terrifying.
>It's like you shits can't see that Revenge of the Sith is as good as Empire Strikes Back
lmao

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>>384766171
>That's never really stated. It could be that a spider is how she's perceived by other beings.
True.

>>384765454
... is she wearing makeup in that pic?

>>384766091
>>384765757

It is certainly not pulled out of the ass and entirely unreal. It could be that she can.

>>384765891
>One of the nazgul turns out to be 2 lolis standing on top of eachother

That would be great and you know it.

>>384766280
Also, holy shit. I just realized where they're going with this.

Ungoliant raped Morgoth. That's where this is going. Shelob is Morgoth's rape child.

Both games shit on lore.
It's annoying, but just ignore it and focus on the game itself. I just want to rek with my orc army.

The spiders of Mirkwood are younger and much tinier, so would they shapeshift into lolis?

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>>384766395
This is now my headcanon

>>384766171
>>384766280
But then how did she produce web?

>>384766359
>slapstick humor when not standing on each others shoulders
>completely competent when they are

>>384765454
Well yeah, the first game was like that too. And it's not only about the lore, it's also the "spirit of Tolkien" Mr.Btongue explained it in GoT video

>>384766637
What do spiders sometimes do to their mates, Anon?

>>384766551
>Both games shit on lore.
That's why shadow of mordor was such a GREAT game and Shadow of war will be too.
Lore fags should hang themselves

Maybe unlike Tolkien the devs realised that talking giant spiders look fucking retarded

>>384765891
Careful or you'll catch yourself a job

>>384766637
Then Melkor's Balrogs run a train on Ungoliant, causing her to walk funny for the next few thousand years.

I'm probably biased but I never like Celebrimbor in shadow of mordor, so annoying and patronizing, I didn't like the animations implying that I wasn't good.

So I like this tarantula cunt and how she wants to remove Celebrimbor.

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>>384765891
>everybody is a loli now

Hey, it worked for Mazinger.

>>384766171
>>384765669
These.
I appreciate these users.

>>384766678
HOLY SHIT
WEB IS GROOL
WEB IS FUCKING GROOL

>>384766356
It has zero precedent.

There's nothing that states that Gandalf can't do a kamehameha. So I guess it's a totally plausible possibility that he could, right? If Shelob did have this ability, this wouldn't be the first time it would have come up. If she could shapeshift, she could very easily have tricked Sam and Frodo.

Moreover, this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what Shelob/Ungoliant are supposed to be. Shelob wouldn't be plotting to overthrow Sauron, she exists only to consume shit.

Is this an analogy to Talion taking a red-pill?
Seeing the truth that the civilization of man is being destroyed and Celebrimbor telling him just to ignore it "because all flesh dies".
Then asks for another vision and sees there are people benefiting from the suffering and fighting.

>>384765891
Doesn't it make sense for godlike beings to be girls? If I'm a powerful deity, the fuck would I want to appear as a fucking old man? I'd be a cute loli (male) all the time

why are you guys buttmad?

This in no way invalidates the books. Its a spinoff based of the LOTR world.

Im a fucking LOTR nerd and even I am not bitching about this.

>>384767489
>I'd be a cute loli (male)
>loli (male)

Shota is the word you seek.

>>384767683
She said what he meant and he meant what she said.

>ctrl F
>Stoya
>0 results
??? ???

>>384766395
Oh fuck off...
It's depressing how right I think you are.

>lotr
>lore

come on. it's baby first fantasy, shallow as it gets
they can do whatever they want with it.

>>384767751
Is that just who you think it looks like or is there something we're missing?

>>384765454
>Maybe she is an ally? Who can know? The misterious Shelob, how shady.
It's one of the few being wrote by Tolkien that is inherently evil.
Are you fucking kidding me.

>>384767530
Some people have respect for artists and the integrity of their work, and don't enjoy seeing their work cynically exploited by greedy developers who showcase a terrible misunderstanding and lack of respect for the setting, characters and themes that Tolkein created.

Sorry we're not all autistic sociopaths who can't understand why anyone would be upset over lazy cashgrabs that take the name solely for its brand recognition, then proceed to piss on it and drag it through the mud.

>>384765454
This is really fucking dumb, and I say this as a person who is not an expert on LotR lore.
But I don't care. I'm fucking diamonds over here, man.

>>384765669
That's barely passable. I'm double diamonds now.

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>>384767813
0/10

Seriously, apply yourself.

I don't even care any more. That's so retarded and bizarre that it's great.

>>384767941
Republicans according to the media are evil.
Who's to say this game isn't giving the perspective that she's actually good.

>>384768037
that's what cultists and religious fanatics usually say.

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>tfw Christopher tolkien will die in the next few years.
>tfw he said that he was done collating his father's notes because he was 93.
>you will live to see the passing of an age.

>LotR lore
Who cares you people are on the same level as early 2000 weebs

>>384768295
Lore ruins good games anyway.

>>384768213
>if you aren't desecrating someone's work over the altar of shekels you are autistic.

This game shits all over tolkien's work in a way that would make a scat fetishist sick.

>>384768145
because Tolkien wrote in black and white manner
everything is set in stone, lotr is the most basic fairytail overblown into political scenery of the time

>>384768145
Republicans want to take away people's healthcare. Its pretty evil mate.

>People are unironically hyped for more lore rape

>>384768104
>HURRRR EVIL MEGA GODS CREATED LESSER GODS AND MORE THINGS AND 20 ZILLION RACES AND MAGICAL SHIT HAPPENED AND THEN EVIL UBERLORD OF DEATH AND PAIN CAME OUT BUT A TINY MANLET DEFEATED HIM WITH POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
>THIS IS ALL JUST ME COPING WITH TWO WORLD WARS BTW

>>384768285
>Christopher Tolkien
Imagine being the son of someone so famous your entire life revolves around collating his spare notes while no one gives a shit about your existence. It's like living in someone's shadow to an unimaginable degree.

>>384765454
>don't care about lore
>will enjoy the game
Feels good.

>>384768367
>basic fairytale.
Didn't know there was a fairytale where the main characters are tiny hobbits, who fail in their quest and a dumbass hobbit trips and falls, thus saving the world.

>>384768420
Please tell me you are trolling.

>>384768367
I dunno. I think Illuvatar sinking the fucking continent and keeping the fate of men unknown was pretty grey-going-black. Always felt sympathy for Sauron regarding that. Dude deserved his shot at the title.

>>384768426
>dad leaves him as the executor of his estate.
>he spends years collating notes, giving us things like the tale of beren of luthien, hurin's children and silmarillion
>some WB shill on an anonymous british bean baking symposium shits on him.

Don't care, I want to fuck that spider/be fucked and killed by that spider

Is this game finally going to reveal what's Aragorn's tax policy?

>>384768420
[kinslaying intensifies]

>>384768528
he probably thinks GURM is a good writer too.

>>384767489
Because in the past old people were thought of as wise and knowledgeable? It's not that weird people, or Tolkien, imagined deities as old men.
Tolkien especially, as he was a Christian, and Eru was written with the Father of mind, and fathers tend to be older men.

>>384765757
Yeah, I never got that. She almost chomped one the most powerful Valars, but a bunch of rag-tag balrogs chased her off.

>>384768496
heard of ivan the fool?
goofy character that kills immortal eternal being with a needle? top of my eead example
goofy character that seemingly by accident saves the world, village, bride is very common theme
you need to study more.

>>384768145
No, you fucking idiot, Jesus fucking Christ. It's not like Elrond and Gandalf just said she's a poopyface and she can't be trusted or some shit.

Ungoliant is a fucking abomination that came from outside creation, and exists only to consume. She literally consumes the light of creation, Laurelin and Telperion. There wasn't a Sun or a Moon at this point, those were created from fruit of the trees after their destruction. After he and Ungoliant destroy the trees that were the light source of the entire world, Melkor makes off with the Silmarils, which were made to contain the light of the trees, and are now the sole remaining sources of that light. Guess what Ungoliant's fat ass does? She attacks Melkor and tries to eat those too. Shelob is Ungoliant's spawn, and is exactly the same, just nowhere near as powerful. They don't have any desire or intention other than to consume. There's nothing about them to be misunderstood.

>>384768213
That doesn't make any sense.

>>384768680
>village bride
k.

Did ivan have a magical artefact that was slowly eating away at his soul and corrupting him? Did ivan save the world when an already corrupted soul that he had mercy on tried to take the needle from him, then fall over and shove the needle into the immortal eternal thus killing him?

Did ivan never find comfort in the world of the living and had to go with the angels to paradise while the world around it lost its magic and spark?

>>384765750
If I could feel this way about Ghostbusters I might've enjoyed the movie 2% more

>>384768835
>sam, simple farmer from the shire fights off a piece of the eternal darkness with the light of the silmaril and a sword from gondolin.

SHEEIT, tis pottery

>>384765454
Is that Mila Jovowovvitch?

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>we will never get another good game set in lore like The Return of the King
>there will never be a game that sets off from the the movies while keeping the lore, like The Third Age
>no game set in the First of Second age
>tfw no industrial age Numenor
>tfw Tolkien died and no more LOTR

>>384768420
Don't you have a book you should be writing, you fat fuck?

>>384768540
By that point the Numenoreans had built a giant temple to worship Morgoth and apparently made human sacrificies to his name, and were about to launch a military invasion to the holy lands.

Also, Sauron a shit. A fucking dog beat him in a fight, what a faggy-ass dark lord.

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>>384767751
Time to stop looking at so much porn anon.

>>384768650
1. Melkor pissed away most of his power being a fucking idiots.

2. Balrogs are fierce. If you have 7 balrogs flying around chopping away at you with flaming swords, that shit's not a rectifiable combat scenario.

>>384768835
>All this spam about her mommy
>knows and says nothing about Shelob
kek okay

>>384767751
>ctrl F
>Stoya
>1 result
??? ???

>>384768879
pretty sure a couple of northern sagas do that
I understand it was your first fantasy, but move on already.

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>>384768420

>>384768650
Morgoth wasn't that powerful (well top 5). He was just really sneaky

>>384767751
she was hot but man, all the movies she was in were lame over-directed shit
plus she fuck that faggot Neil Gaiman

>>384768991
>DOG'D

>>384769102
>pretty sure
name them.

>>384767751
The original meme porn whore
Then it was Sasha Grey, then Mia Khalifa, then Siri
Who is the FOTM slut today?

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>>384765891

>>384769159
he was that powerful to begin with. He just put most of his power into arda so that he could influence it. As a result his power waned.

>>384768991
>>Also, Sauron a shit. A fucking dog beat him in a fight, what a faggy-ass dark lord.
>TFW a player named DOG beat me for MVP in Rising Storm 2 earlier
Ever more sympathy have I.

>>384768594
>Tolkien, imagined deities as old men.

I don't recall any of the Valar being described as old men or women, and Illuvatar never took form.

>>384768991
It was a badass doggo though.

>>384769057
I gathered that he still hadn't spent all that much power at that point, and it was only with Tulkas and the rest combined that he was brought down.

>>384769159
Isn't it outright stated that he was the greatest?

>>384767751
Stoya is cuter than tha character model.

>>384768037
Except that they aren't changing the book and they've already stated in the first game that nothing in it is considered canon outside of the game?

>>384768835
Both Elrond and Gandalf are non-humans and only have non-human priorities, everything they do is in benefit of minor races, remind you of some people?
Who's to say Shelob isn't shining the truth on the fact that humans are doing all the work while minority races are just smoking hash and looking for gold.

>>384769067
Shelob is the exact same, you fucking dork. If you read the books, it's exactly how Tolkein describes her.
>"But still she was there, who was there before Sauron, and before the first stone of Barad-dûr; and she served none but herself, drinking the blood of Elves and Men, bloated and grown fat with endless brooding on her feasts, weaving webs of shadow; for all living things were her food, and her vomit darkness"

>>384769159
Pretty sure Morgoth was #1 Valar an Daddy's favourite before fucking up.

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>>384769395
>its a redpilled morgul rat

>>384769279
I was responding to the "Doesn't it make sense for godlike beings to be girls?", and wanted to say why most gods are older men.

why are LOTR fags so easy to trigger?
at least TES fags will drown you with wall of text while being triggered
these guys can't even lore you properly because setting is small

>>384769373
Can you not read?

>>384765454
>This is shelob. Now a fucking femme fatale shape shifter.
lel

>>384769057
>1. Melkor pissed away most of his power being a fucking idiots.

That actually was the only smart thing he did. As powerful as Melkor was, he clearly wasn't going to win the war. By diluting himself into Arda he tainted the cration in a way that could never be mended, it was the ultimate FUCK YOU to his dad.

>>384765658
Except Shadow of Mordor butchered the lore from the first game/ Yet you're surprised now?

>>384769467
Morgul TV game when?

>>384769438
sounds like just a regular life form just trying to eat a fucking meal.
Maybe as she's growing she's becoming wiser to the world around herself.
Maybe she likes the taste of humans and is realizing that orcs n sheit are killing them.

>>384769340
Before he spread his powers over his armies.

>>384769395
>treacherous
>gluttonous
>greedy
>literally darkness given form
Shelob is more of a Jew than you're implying Elrond and Gandalf are.

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>>384767286
IT ALL MAKES SENSE. MY DICK.

>>384768416
For the life of me I cannot conceive of another reason why they want to do that besides party-line loyalties and being in bed with big-medical.

It's so fucking unbelievable. Even if their medicare system does not budge from where it is now poor people can access affordable health insurance. And the Republicans don't want that because fiscal responsibility; and yet their discretionary spending (like the military) is completely fucking outrageous; and I do support their role as world police.

>>384768420
8/10, anon asked you to apply yourself and you really stepped up to the plate. a commendable effort, with five responses now.

>>384769574
>sounds like just a regular life form just trying to eat a fucking meal
She's literally darkness given shape.
>Maybe as she's growing she's becoming wiser to the world around herself.
She's already plenty intelligent, she just doesn't care about anything but consuming.
>Maybe she likes the taste of humans and is realizing that orcs n sheit are killing them.
Then she would have done something hundreds of years ago.

>>384765454
It was meant to be cheesy schlock from the getgo, considering any fiction to be sacred and untouchable is stupid, it doesn't take away from the source material at all.

>>384769806
>She's literally darkness given shape.
you realize how nonsensical it sounds?
and I mean in your usual lore from any other setting there would be at least some explanation besides "lul it's darkness, deal with it"

>>384765454
maybe they explain it somehow in-game
I doubt it but I'll give them a chance. the first game shat all over the lore but it was still great to finally see Silmarillion characters like Celebrimbor and even Annatar, and I'm looking forward to seeing what this one does with the characters now that they're veering off toward it being an alternate universe or whatever

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WE WUZ RANGERS N SHIET NIGGA

>>384765454
So this pisses you off, but the giant rubber schlong they gave to the lore in the first game meant nothing?

Yeah, nah. You're a cunt.

>>384769965
They also lightened the skin of all the orcs and ologs for shadow of war, I can no longer fantasize about the race-war.

>>384765454
They could have used some dark Numeronean magician if they wanted a sexy villiness or grey character.
Fucking Shelob doesn't ake sense.

SHELOB DID NOTHING WRONG: the thread

>>384769989
>Silmarillion

nobody read that, from only trilogy stand point: shadow of mordor makes perfect sense

>>384770046
She didn't though.
Nobody has provided any evidence that she is evil except for being anti-elf and as we all know the elves were anti-human for hundreds of years and didn't give a fuck about humans.

>>384770013
But orcs are good boyz.

the reason why she can shapeshift has something to do with her 'napping celebrimbor and/or getting the new ring they made (heresy) in exchange for him

people already know that the lore is off course, why is this stuff such a big problem

>>384766356
That is entirely a vacuous assumption. That's like saying that Frodo could shoot lasers out of his eyes and produce cream cheese from his teet because there's nothing in the book that said he couldn't.

>>384770138
People with autism can't deal with it, not trying to shit-post but it's literally painful to them to be told something else happened.
Good example of it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maLzqjYx1BM

>>384770247
>That's like saying nothing in the book that said he couldn't.
And that's a straw-man fallacy.

>>384770271
We used to tell the autistic kid in highschool that birds ate metal and dumb shit like that and he'd scream and throw a shitfit.

It's basically that.

Strange that autists love fanfiction so much.

>>384770426
lol just imagining that.

>>384770271
woah, this video made so much sense about this whole place, people aren't even joking when they call somebody autistic here

how many spiders do you think Shelob could fit in her human form's vagina? Regular size, not giant mirkwood size

>>384769739
>Turbine Support Re: Lifetime subscription

I don't know why, but this hurts me.

>>384770119
The book literally describes her as "an evil thing in spider-form", dear spider poster.

>>384770374
>And that's a straw-man fallacy.
How so? There is nothing in the lore that states Shelob had the power to shapeshift. There's nothing in the lore that states Hobbits have laser eye beams or cream cheese tits.

>>384769739
>tom bombadil
kek.

>>384770626
That's not evidence.
I require more evidence pls!
This goes back to the media calling republicans evil while in fact they're the good guys.

>>384769937
No. It's perfectly inline with real myth and legend, which is what Tolkein based his work on.
>I mean in your usual lore from any other setting there would be at least some explanation
You mean the settings that are just derivative of Tolkein's work?

the first game did nothing to harm lord of the rings canon and it stuck perfectly to the lore

I find those that complain about it stupid

>>384770716
>republicans are the good guys.
on the off chance that you are getting massive tax breaks and earn a 7 figure salary per month, sure.

>>384769739
>>384770552
>Sauron - Re: It's now 2-1
how the fuck did Sauron beat a literally omniscient being in even one game of chess

>>384770374
No, that's exactly the argument that guy was using.
>Nothing says she can't, so it's plausible!

>>384770751
elves don't become ghosts and stick around middle earth.

>>384770626
>an evil thing in spider-form
just semantically analyze it

evil thing - mean it can be anyTHING
spider-form - key word is FORM, and as we well know form is not substance, specially in magiclol settings

>>384770841
but ghost army of humans is okay

>>384765454
it's pretty clear this is an alternate universe based on the first game alone
it's not meant to fit in with the established LOTR future lore

>>384770925
yes. Oathbreakers must serve.

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>>384770751
>the first game did nothing to harm lord of the rings canon and it stuck perfectly to the lore
>it stuck perfectly to the lore

>>384770841
yes that's the normal process, they trapped his ghost with evil black magic

>>384770948
are you for real?
I give up.

>>384770970
yes exactly

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>>384765454

I'm okay when lore rape involves hot females that i can possibly fuck.

>>384771020
he's right. canonically different things happen to elves and humans after death

>>384770974
there has been no evidence in any of the canon of anyone using magic to do things like that. Magic in middle earth doesn't work like that. Magic has been slowly on the wane since the first age and by the time of the third age it has nearly been snuffed out.

>>384770925
Yes, you dumbass.

Why do you brainlets who haven't read any of the books insist on arguing about shit?

>>384770970
>I will discredit his assumption with laughingman.gif without any example whatsoever

>>384771070
they don't know, nor do they care.

>>384771087
>hasnt even played the game
>doesnt even know what he's talking about
lmao memes
m
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>>384770970
>Lore-fags pretend to laugh at those who don't care and mock lore
How red-hot is your face right now though?
Spinning that fidget spinner as fast as you can?

>>384771124
>sauron captured celrimbor's soul with black magic.
>game is accurate to lore.
pick one.

>>384770974
Elves don't have ghosts, fucktard.

>>384771027
thx for a good laugh

>>384770948
Wouldn't that same rule also apply to Celebrimbor?

Especially since shelob is implying that he's maybe not such a great guy after all?

>>384771221
Elves get sent to mandos' halls. They don't have ghosts in the traditional sense.

>>384771174
[stereotype] don't have souls, fucktard.

I'll say this again, NOBODY read Silmarion.
Games make perfect sense operation only within trilogy+hobbit.

>>384771103
We're talking about one.
>>384771132
If you're so edgy and apathetic to it all, why are you pooper-peeved enough to respond to that post?

>>384771280
No it doesn't. There is literally nothing in the appendices that says that a human captured a bunch of orcs and created an army to fight against sauron.

>>384771221
No, you fucking idiot, Jesus Christ.

Death doesn't apply to men and elves in the same way.
>>384771280
No, they fucking don't. Maybe if you only watched Hackson's movies.

Remember: WB bought reviews for the last game

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/ftc-says-warner-bros-paid-youtubers-to-promote-shadow-of-mordor/

I was actually excited for that game, but then I played it and realised it was an undercooked piece of shit game with like 10 missions and terrible voice acting

>>384769739
most of these are pretty kek

>sexy milf that will probably fuck your character
Failing to see a problem there

>>384765454
dnd took from tolkien and now this game takes from dnd. magical creatures can often assume human form especially dragons. but i agree, this is fucking stretching it

>>384765559
the hobbits wouldnt have fallen for her wiles, humans would.

>>384765575
this guy nailed it
>>384765585
this guy summed it up
>>384765669
>>384766171
oh, well then, carry on (i never read the tolkien extended collection of books, but I read the hobbit when I was 6 or 7 years old)

>>384771413
voice acting was good, fuck off

>>384771075
sauron was known as "the Necromancer". we don't have any direct textual evidence of him doing any Necromancy, but it's not entirely unreasonable for the designers to give him some power over spirits.

The games went the same direction as the movies with their depiction of magic, because it's a lot harder to portray actual subtle Silmarillion-style magic when you're dealing with a visual medium. Yes it violates book canon completely, but it makes internal sense within the game's version of the lore

>>384771027
They literally don't have the rights to call uruk-hais by their proper name

>>384771353
>we must recreate every word written by Tolkien like a bible

you people are unbearable, go do your larping or whatever it's called

>>384771465
The dwarf had a ridiculously inacurate Scottish accent, I had to turn the volume down

Only read the trilogy and hobbit, is the Silmariralion or whatever any good to read? Or is it like a history book

>>384765762
>thinks celebrimbor is an OC

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>>384765454
I knew this bitch seemed familiar

>>384768976
>what was Sauron's tax policy?

>>384771584
>we must take a giant shit on the worldbuilding to make a forgettable game because we own the IP.

>>384771609
>Scottish
are you? because nobody else was able to tell

>>384771681
>ghost celebrimbor that possesses orcs
>not an OC donut steel character.

>>384771615
like history book, read only if you love the setting very much

>>384771710
why are you bothered so much about history period that is not even mentioned in the books and devs can do whatever they want with it?

>>384771891
its alluded to in the appendices.
The devs take a giant shit on that.

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>>384765454
I don't know why you guys are complaining about the lore when the gameplay is going to be the same bamham bullshit that gets old after 10 minutes again.

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>>384768426
>imagine living pathetic life of having anything you can wish without any effort
Yeah, can't imagine how hard it is.
On the other hand, your life is so great, that it does not project any shadow at all.

I wonder what I would choose.

>>384772051
>the appendices.
irrelevant for 99% of people that will play the game. so game will make sense= all is good in the world

>>384765454
>muh lore
It's a videogame

>>384772393
A bad one tho

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>>384765454
>Fuck this game and this series.
Completely agree.

>>384770013
Why tho. That aussie troll is bro-tier.

>>384772302
>lmao who cares if the devs are making a cynical cash-in and exploiting an artist's work for name recognition
I hope you'll grow up and stop being an edgy teenager one day.

>>384772873
>cynical cash-in
>exploiting
you're fucking retarded lol
brainlets
get some taste

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>ninety nine dollars and a cash shop

Come on now. Does anyone here really care either way? Most will likely pirate it because its a couple of days worth of entertainment, not a 60+$ investment. Its a silly batman combat with nemesis system orc slaying game. So at worst we will get rare SFM porn out of it if theres a hot succubus-Shelob, and at best some amazing fetish porn out of it. I mean, is this game even worth making threads about?

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>>384772115
This. I don't understand why people are doing all these mental gymnastics to defend this turd. If it were an actual good game, I'd understand why people are so set on defending it taking a big, steaming dump on Tolkein's life work. But it's uninspired bamham drivel. Worse even.
>m-muh nemesis system
Probably the most overblown and overhyped gameplay feature in the past decade.

>>384765454
Don't care. Would waifu the spider.

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>>384773023
>defending this turd
>calling anyone else a brainlet
>telling anyone else to get taste
lmao you're pathetic

Tolkien made one good jovial children's book and a vacuous trilogy that primarily served as an inspiration for two decent films and a genre that occasionally stands above it's progenitor by having passable prose. His "lore" has no artistic, thematic, philosophical, or practical value; and it is no coincidence that those who fawn over it are likely to be the same genre-loving colour sorters who read Star Wars books and can't fathom why a 40K movie wouldn't work as a compelling piece of fiction.

>>384765454
>playing this game
>after the first game being complete shit

It's a shame they didn't just invent their own world. They could have had much more freedom to do what they wanted. Of course, they'd lose a lot of sales since a LotR game gets a lot more attention, but the end result would have been better.

>>384772873
>says all that in one post

contradictory miximalism is a thing at your age I guess

>>384773480
LOTR was philosophical was fuck. Of course the philosophy is more on the right side on the spectrum so liberal retards probably don't see it.

>>384773548
pretty sure they did, WB just told them to use LOTR

>>384765575
>buys
doesn't even deserve that, just pirate it with all of the dlc just to spit in the devs face for this gangbang of tolkiens work.

>>384773548
why waste time and money on creating lore when you already own the lotr property with a built in fanbase. it would be like lucasarts back in the day creating new space lore instead of using star wars.

>>384772873
I hope you grow up and stop investing yourself emotionally in the reputation of genre works.

>>384771451
>the hobbits wouldnt have fallen for her wiles, humans would.
But she's a shapeshifter, she could've just turned herself into some sexy midget for them. Maybe with cream cheese dispensing tits like that other Anon was suggesting, because why not.

>>384773827
I hope you grow up and get a job were you have to create things and then other people desecrate them.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>384773719
That's not even a word.

>>384773827
You're just being retarded and contrary for the sake of it at this point. Sad.

>>384773929
You can't desecrate something that was made purely to turn a profit.

>>384774092
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximalism

>>384774219
Great argument. I can see why you spend your time reading the Old Testament for autists, rather than something with substantial characterization, themes, and prose.

>>384774257
Are you talking about the source material? Cause that was not his intention.

He made a universe and now it's being altered for 'mass appeal', it was desecrated.

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>>384774415
Please name something you think is a great literary work, I am up for a laugh.

>>384774465
Desecration implies it was held sacred in the first place, which it most certainly was not, and was never intended to be so.

>>384774465
It was desecrated when he went beyond writing down his day dreaming and sharing his child's bedtime story with the world, and split one book in three and signed off the rights for commercialization.

>>384774264
>miximalism is maximalism

Mental illness must be a thing at your age

>>384774545
Crime and Punishment.

>>384765454
my dick is pleased

>>384774476
why is master chief holding that sign?

>>384774545
Dostoyevsky's 'The Idiot'.

>>384770751
Did you not notice Gollum? I'm going to point out that the Gate of Gondor was abandoned long before Gollum found the ring. Yet he's in Mordor looking for clues, mentioning Bilbo. So it's already fucked the timeline.

>>384774735
>>384774919
I bet you haven't even read it you pretentious cunt. Go ahead, C&P the themes so you can pretend otherwise.

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>>384765891
>One of the nazgul turns out to be 2 lolis standing on top of eachother

>>384765891
any of the valar including sauron (before he was fucked up by that dog) could appear in any form, so if they made a game about the first age sauron could be a loli and be consistent with the lore

get hype

>giving a shit about some generic fantasy lore

LOTR is about epic battles and epic music. DUNNNNN DUNNNNNN ANNNN DUNNNNNNNNNNN

>>384765454
Sauron is a maiar and (was) able to change forms. I would guess that shelob would be on the same tier as shes a daughter of a power on par with Morgoth. I dont see why shelob being able to shapeshift is so unbelievable

>>384765454
Nobody cares about the fucking lore, you nerd.

The game will suck because it'll have the same watered down BamHamCity/AssCreed combat, not because it doesn't slavishly follow the books it's very loosely based on.

>>384773831
Hobbits are meant to be more resilient to mindbending shit than other races. It's why Gandalf and co let Frodo carry the ring around and why her illusions may have backfired.

I'm pretty sure some intern called Samwise in the dev team mentioned this and the rest of the writers rolled with it. Still lore rape though.

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>>384765891
>>384775139

>>384775291
Put a bullet in your head fag.

>>384768145
>created on healthcare bill after another that would create taxs breaks for the rich,would fuck people out of healthcare and was litteraly shittier then obamacare
>ayy lmao we're not evil XDDDD

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>>384767751
>Stoya
I knew she looked like someone.

>>384765454
If the game is fun thats ok with me

>>384775406
nice reddit meme

looks like milla jovovich

lol an LOTR thread turned into greasy nerds screaming at eachother

good shit

I don't really care about lore but for the people complaining they are making Shelob good are you fucking stupid. She's obviously playing you, hell she's wearin the ring you forge and wear through out the majority of the game.

Jesus do you people just go around looking for stuff to be angry about.

>>384765454
Not completely implausible according to the lore, but thats obviously not what Tolkien intended.

I made it through the first game by convincing myself it was less a lotr games and more like a game with HEAVY lotr influences. Sure, I don't like the lore rape but Tolkien is dead, what's canon is canon and cannot be changed. It's just bittersweet the way a fun games comes with such perversion but I'll live.

>>384765454
How about you go kill yourself?

This is vidya, go read the books.

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>>384765454
But do Balrogs have wings?

>>384767683
Forgive him father, for she does not know what he says.

>>384765454
>>384765454

Is she modeled after Stoya?

So where did gandalf fall with balrog in moria? In the books he fell to the deeper caverns but in the movie he fell to a mountain top..?

>>384765454
The models look pretty bad. Good thing it got delayed.

>>384768037
Sorry I forgot how vital and fleshed out the fucking spider was in LOTR. How central she was to the themes of the setting, as well. My mistake, anon.

>>384777793
In the movies he feel into an underground lake. The Balrog ran up the mountain and Gandalf chased it.

>>384768879
The corruption is so fucking common in the classical heroes journey that the fact that you tried to throw it back at him is hilarious.

>>384765454
Is she half spider and half woman? Cause im gonna burn my dick on that.

>>384765454
Almost fanfiction tier.
Why even make it LOTR if they just change whatever the fuck they want?

>>384765669
This. I barely remember silmiral or whatever it's called but I do remember this.

>>384777962
I dunno, man. I think it's on the same level as Witcher 3, qualitywise.

>>384765891
Would buy 5 copies

>>384778464
Eh, maybe it's the animation then. Something looks awkard to me.

All the nerd virgins crying in this thread are the equivalent of muslims blowing up if you shit on the Koran.
As Tolkien's work has all been written, however people re-interpret the universe, his own works still stand. So go read Tolkien. If the mere existance of something that contradicts, but not replaces the original works makes you angry, you're zealot level of stupid.

Pathethic as fuck

>>384779556
fuck off /pol/

>>384765891
Sounds pretty fun to be honest.

>>384779773
Even an idiot like you must realise you can't shit on the Koran without outroar.

If you think that's fine, you're pathetic.

>>384780076
Why did you come in to this thread?

What the fuck is a caragor?

>>384780448
The mordor version of wargs

It's weird, but I don't really give a shit. I can't help but feel that the reason why they're using Shelob instead of an original creation is solely because they want people to go "oh hey, Shelob's in it, I'm a little bit more interested in this now", and that feels like vacuous pandering to me especially since with me only having knowledge of the first two books and the movies, Shelob's just a big ass spider that can maybe talk.

However, in general, I don't care. It just feels lazy.

>>384765454
>Femme fatale
>Actually not even pretty
Wut?

>>384780167
To prove tards like you wrong easily

>>384765454
>it's impossible to please hardcore LOTR fans
>might as well just say fuck it and make a game for people who will not lose their minds if you make a mistake
I'll just play a game I find fun while you can reread your books, rewatch your movies or just wallow in hate.

>>384780928
So your autism acted up so badly that you couldn't ignore a thread like a normal person? also i've said nothing in this thread apart from asking why you came in so how have you proven me wrong?

>>384780827
femme fatale is more about personality/behavior

and in this case we have the whole spider/black widow angle

>>384781126
Good point!
People should just ignore everything they don't like. So this thread doesn't need to exist.

Why did your autism flare up so badly that you had to come in here and ask me something, why don't you just ignore it?

>>384772294
>>384768558
Tolkienfags are without a doubt the easiest fantasyfags to trigger. Its like their Bible.

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>All these 200 pounds neckbeards who call her ugly just because it's not a shitty sameface anime girl

As Tolkien's work has all been written, however people re-interpret the universe, his own works still stand. So go read Tolkien. If the mere existance of something that contradicts, but not replaces the original works makes you angry, you're zealot level of stupid.

>>384781217
Nope, was just curious about why some one brought muslims blowing shit up in a thread about lord of the rings.

>>384765454
Is that Millia Jovovich?

I think the worst thing they did is add subhuman nigger scum in the lore.

They're not even haradrim.

>>384781410
That wasn't my point, but I realise now that you're some braindead NEET who can't read. My B

>>384774735
>>384774919
>Dostoevsky
Every fucking time. I wonder what it is that draws abject morons to pretending they've read his work.

I can't take your opinions on "substance" seriously, but what does the work's "substance" have to do with this anyway? If something doesn't meet your woefully uneducated standards, then corporations should have free reign to rape and pillage it as they see fit? That's disgusting.

Why are you so intent on condoning and shilling this game?

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>>384781353
OP's pic made me think of pic related.
Who's more attractive in your opinion?

>>384781559
only brain dead here is you since all you can think about is /pol/ shit, people are having a dicussion about stuff, how is that comparable to shit being blown up? do us all a favour and borrow a shotgun from your uncle cletus and kill yourself.

>>384765454
I wanna fuck that spider.

>>384781893
(you)
Go out and stop sucking your widdle thumb, at least you tried

>>384779556
>If you're not an edgy sociopath like me, you're stupid!
How is this any different from Donte and DmC? The original Dante and Devil May Cry games still exist, right? It's not like they're shitting on a beloved setting and characters just to cash in on a recognizable name, so why be upset, right?

Fucking dipshit. Or what, are you going to tell use that you shilled for that abortion of a game too?

>>384768037
>All these retards responding to this post
I expexcted more from this board. I completely agree anon. Let's just gtfo. There is no hope for this shithole.

Dagor Dagorath would make a good setting for a game but would never happen.

>>384782036
You're right, its not different.
I played the new DmC and disliked it, but it doesn't blemish my enjoyment of the original games. If I was a more stubborn DMC fan I'd probably not even have tried it, because it looked different from the start.

Which is what's happening now. The original works of Tolkien are still preserved. People who care deeply to not have their head fantasy spoiled can choose not to play the game. People who don't care about Shelob being a shapeshifter can go on to play it.

Its not canon by Tolken estate words first of all.

Your argument is that any re-imagining of any fantasy world is 'shitting on it', like its some holy symbol is absurd.

Dipshit. You tried. You can't defend your view in any reasonable way, because the easy answer to this situation is always that your Tolkien fantasy world is preserved as is and you can choose not to incorporate this game into it.

Alternative you're trying to say that no new interpretations of the Tolkien world can exist at all, which is hilarious. Because 1) none of them are canon 2) Re-working other pieces of art, or basing new works upon them has driven every artform forever 3) You can choose not to accept whatever you read. ie - If I thought Aragorn's actor was retarded and looked stupid, I'd not watch the movie to preserve my own interpretation from the books. Its a fantasy world based on literatture. There are no rules as to what you do. If you can't do this, you somehow NEED everyone else to see and accept your fantasy world exactly as you do, which is not a defensible position.

Explain how this game hurt you. Dipshit.

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>>384770726
Just stop anon she's my WIFFU not all monstergirls uwu

>>384783095
>The original works of Tolkien are still preserved. People who care deeply to not have their head fantasy spoiled can choose not to play the game.
Why do you faggots think that this strawman argument holds any weight? This isn't the issue here, no matter how much you pretend it is, and no one is arguing this point.

If you're a jaded, apathetic cynic who doesn't feel a twinge of sympathy for an artist's life work being bastardized and exploited by a corporation who has no respect for it or understanding of it, that's your own prerogative. But don't pretend that your cynicism affords you the moral or rhetorical high ground.

I'm not even sure what your issue is. I haven't said anything to the degree that this game shouldn't be allowed to exist, though I would certainly prefer that it didn't. All I'm really saying is that this game is retarded at best and fragrantly disrespectful to the original work and its author at worst. But apparently I can't call a spade a spade, because Warner Bros. will bounce your paycheck if you don't bend over backwards to defend this piece of shit game at every junction.

Shelob is going to be a grey character as in her morality has to be determined by context and the context will be super vague.
Dubs if true.

>>384768952
>A rag-tag hobbit with sting and 300 ping

>>384781607
>some dudes make a game that they like and other people like
>social outcasts scream about it raping and pillaging the one thing they hold sacred (which really isn't all that great lol)
pot er ee

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>Shelob is a bad gal because she wears one of the rings
kek

I want to pre-purchase but I don't want a childish gimmicky online download, wat do?

>>384785421
(You)
You tried. Next

>>384787939
I accept your concession of defeat.

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>>384788339

>>384765559
because frodo and samwise were so gay for each other, it wouldve been impossible

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>>384788656
I just want you to know, that I know.

>>384788656
>>384789168
Now kiss.