Sonic Mania

>>384748103
what time time zone is that for the panel?

>>384748276
Pacific, I'd assume, since it's in San Diego.

>>384748746
Out of all the rad webms posted in these threads this one always gets my dick the most hard.

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>>384749018

>>384749018
It isn't a mania thread without the iconic bubble webm.

Saturn controller bro, are you here? what should I keep an out on to see if ones fake or not?

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>>384749018
yeah, the slight variances they're doing to the established 3k physics are fucking amazing. i'm beyond pumped for this.

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so what's her consensus on Mania?

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>>384748103
Fuck it, no pasta today, I'm tired, but basically hating Tee's songs = fucking contrarian.

>>384750169
probably forgot it exists

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>>384748746
>>384749406
>all those frames in those animations
can the console that couldn't handle TETRIS handle this? damn

>>384750287
Thank you for your service tomposter

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edited the original, I think this joke is better (though the original's joke was already good)

>>384750638
Gawd no
Original is better.

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>>384748103
>Days until Mania: 23
I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG

>>384750638
what >>384751305 said, your joke was shit

>>384751442
He could at least edit his shit better too.

>>384750287
Are there really people who hate on the god tier music we've heard from Mania so far? Can these even truly be considered "people"?

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Studiopolis live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rykTrcgPFw8

>>384748103
Sonic's sprite in 3 was shit. His eyes make him look derp as fuck and his shows and general combination of shapes and highlights make him look like extra rounded shiny plastic. Like a balloon or Playskool toy.

>>384752172
3's is best and looks closest to the promo artwork. The older sprite's proportions are all fucked up.

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I don't know why people consider Ice Cap having the same music problems that Launch Base and Carnival Night does.

Ice Cap's music is just the remains of an unreleased song by Brad Buxer. Considering how open he's been about the entire Sonic 3 thing SEGA probably would just need to ask him about the song and he would probably say yes.

The reason we can't get LB or CN is because they're owned by the Jackson estate, who are horribly stingy with their property

>>384752164
I really hope sega make a proper recording of this show

>>384752601
This

Also who here wants Sega to get the music for LB and CN anyway? It sounds like shit. All we want is Icecap. And if it happens I hope they do a Sonic 3 remaster and TL makes new music for LB and CN. Then we'll really have a definitive version of the game.

>>384752801
>shit talking Launch Base

you're out of your own league nigger

>>384752584
Nah Mania is best apart from the coloring being a bit too bright for my liking. 3 made the hands way too fuckhuge in trying to fix 1 and 2's issue with them being a bit too small.

But no. The smirk and bubbly look of his head make him look like a fucking retard, his hands are way too hyueg, and his playskool shoes are just fucking bad.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYY-lOFb1Gc

Mickey did it first.

>>384752601
Brad just did the drumline in the unreleased song

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>>384753050
had no choice, the real name was already taken

>There are some people who think Sonic 3 & Knuckles was what the developers intended.

Saw this stupidity in the last thread.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles is not at all what was intended with the 2 games together. First of all, the game is top loaded with the best zones and the zone order is all wrong.

Flying Battery was meant to appear between Carnival Night and Icecap Zone.

Secondly, the game was meant to have Michael Jackson as the composer and this had to be changed in Knuckles. The music in 3 is more accurate to what the game should have sounded like compared to the Knuckles half.

All you fucking posers look ridiculous to long time Sonic fans. If you want the true Sonic 3 and Knuckles - try this: http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete#Zone_Order_Restoration

>>384753050
Traveller's Tales did a much better job working with Mickey than they did with sonic that's for damn sure

Resident 4fag popping in, still mega hyped for this game and Forces.

>>384753292
Sonic 3 zones are generally inferior to the S&K ones.

>>384753356
Fuck you 3D Blast was good.

>>384753439
Resident 4 is god tier, gods speed, anon

>>384753480

That's why everyone is creaming themselves for Hydrocity Zone and nobody wants to see any Knuckles zone except Flying Battery (a zone originally in the first half of the game).

>>384753292
>claims he's a true sonic 3 featuring knux fan
>continues the "MJ WAS SUPPOSED TO DO -ALL- THE MUSIC

>>384753559
LMAO hell no it's mediocre at best fuck off only thing notable is the Saturn special stages

>>384753569
Wrong 4 my friend. I'm the infamous Sonic 4fag from previous threads, though in general I've actually got along with all Anons except for one repeatedly telling me to kill myself.

Just picked up PS3 Unleashed today, framerate makes me want to die.

>>384753576
Hydrocity zone is overrated as fuck. Just because it's the one water level that isn't terrible people act like it's the second coming. It's an average level with great music. Pretty much every S&K level that isn't Sandopolis act 2 is better.

>>384753747
pleb: sonic 3 and knux
patrician: Sonic 1
Ascended: Flicky Island

>>384752601
Y'know, why can't they just edit out the 6-note progression from Carnival Night?
As far as I know, that's the only part of it that could cause legal issues, and it isn't really a major part of the song.

>>384753747
OSTs are god-tier (Genesis is better though) and the levels are well designed. It's a good game but because you can't rush through it like a retard it gets shit on.

>>384752020
There's that retard that complains about it being too electronic and dance-y even though that's what early sonic music was.

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>>384753292
>claims Sonic 3 is better standalone
>All you fucking posers look ridiculous

>>384752020
>>384754027
I like the music well enough, but none of the tracks so far have really wowed me.

>>384754117
>another Knuckles fan defending his tacked on b-sides

nigga, I'm trying to help you play the game as intended:

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete#Zone_Order_Restoration

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>never owned the & knuckles part of Sonic 3 growing up
>finally play it complete years later
>immediately disappointed when this theme is removed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=treLKteL1iw

reminder all the sonic 3 and knux levels were being worked on at the same time they just literally pushed out what they had because sega was forcing them to do it

>>384754351
if you get sonic 3 complete (the romhack), you can re-enable it in the options menu

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if sonic 3 can't be re-released because of the music licensing how is Sega still selling it on steam?

>>384754428
cool

>>384754473
it's not a rerelease, it's emulation. like virtual console and shit.

>>384752020
I think it's just butthurt boost fans that Forces looks like Colors 2.0. Mania's OST is by far the best one since Unleashed.

>>384754473
I've asked that before as well.
The explanation I got was that it's fine for them to sell the original rom, but they can't remaster the game or anything.

>>384754230
Yeah when I play Sonic 3 Complete I play Sonic 3 Complete, I don't just play the Sonic 3 standalone part.

>>384754473
They can still sell it, but it has to be unaltered.

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>>384754473
because it's an emulation, not a remake

>>384754609
>Colors 2.0
When did this "Colors is bad" meme start? Anyway, Forces looks far, far worse than Colors ever did.

>>384754769
It started in 2010 when real fans realized they were playing Sonic Unleashed levels with 1/10th the effort, length, speed, and fun in them. Forces and Colors are about on par with each other. I won't say anymore...but I'd rather buy another copy of 06 at full price than either of those two. At least that felt like a Sonic game still.

>>384752851
Michael Jackson himself disowned the work. What more do you need.

Credits/Stranger in Moscow is the only good MJ song

>>384753968
Nice projecting faggot but the game is slippery as fuck and gets stale real quickly, also collecting the flickies is a fucking chore too they don't make it interesting or exciting in the slightest feels like busy work shit

>>384754697
Amy's just mad because she isn't playable in Mania

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>>384748746
Whoa, shit. This is the first time I ever noticed the train in the background.

>>384753292
>All you fucking posers look ridiculous to long time Sonic fans. If you want the true Sonic 3 and Knuckles - try this: http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete#Zone_Order_Restoration

Doesn't S3 complete use the shitty PC music replacements?

>>384755124
no

>>384754914
>real fans
So not you then? 06 felt like a Sonic game in the sense that it was a janky mess like every other 3D Sonic, except this time to an extreme degree. If you'd rather have more of that garbage than something decent (or at worst, mediocre) like Colors then you're an idiot. It's funny that you say Unleashed stages had more effort put into them yet they were still worse designed. Boost games are weak in general but Unleashed is the worst of them. Until Forces releases at least.

>>384753576
Lava Reef because that fucking music

>>384755012
WOAH
>>384755124
Only if you switch over to the PC music

>>384754958
It's slippery for like five minutes until you get used to it. Sonic has momentum in it like any of the other Sonic games from that era. Collecting the flickies is only a hassle in the volcano level because there's one hidden out of the way. The rest of the levels have the flickies placed so that you'll come across them just by playing normally. But boohoo you can't rush to the end so it's "bad".

>>384748824
TomPoster here, glad to see people use my image.

>>384755216
06 was unfinished and ambitious to a fault. What was released shows the rough draft of a game with good level design, a suspenseful story that needed revision, and full 3D gameplay with a big cast of characters, some good, some bad. Colors was the safest game since...probably 3D Blast honestly if we're counting main games. It was slow as shit, had terrible story and writing, and was 2D 80% of the game with awful level design. Boost is the worst style of Sonic but Unleashed is the only modern game worth playing, Generations if you like the memory lane nostalgia it goes for. Unleashed = Generations > Forces = Colors with a big power gap between the two.

>>384755154
Oh, I guess the faggot on youtube patched the shitty music in.

>>384755465
>06
>good level design
>suspenseful story
>Unleashed
>worth playing
>rating Forces despite it not being out and every piece of media released looking terrible
This is either some masterclass bait or you have terminally shit taste.

>>384755647
The only shit taste here is people who act like Colors is good at anything it attempts. It has good art direction because Sonic Team has (or had I should say, Lost World and Forces look awful) talented artists and that's it. How did any of this even start? Because you're to infantile to appreciate Unleashed's masterful and diverse OST and realize Mania is the best one since it? Grow up you little faggot.

>>384755465
>06 was unfinished and ambitious to a fault.

You know, why the fuck didn't sonic team cut out all the hub world shit and send you straight into the levels when they were told they had barely any time to finish? Even if you had zero standards, and I mean zero, nothing in Soleanna was worth your time. Then they could've devoted what little time they had to bug fixing the actual gameplay.

That's why I can never completely blame sega even though they rushed the game out. The sonic team had the opportunity to release garbage instead of a garbage fire, and they blew that.

>>384755934
It was next gen hype man. Everything had to be bigger, bolder than before. Even if you claim there is nothing in Soleanna, that's wrong because there is side quests in them from NPCs as well as achievements locked to them. Hubs were clearly something planned from the start.

>>384755465
>3D Blast was safe
it's an isometric 2.5D isometric platformer with purposely slow gameplay because your collecting flickies. The only thing safe about it is the fact it was made by Traveller's Tales and not Sonic Team

>>384755432
How does momentum benefit that type of gameplay please explain that shit to me because it also makes the platforming the game throws at you feels like complete ass and no collecting flickies along with how some of these stages are designed don't feel interesting or fun it feels like chore shit, its so shallow and lame that you can just play up to rusty ruin and get everything that game has to offer gameplay wise (and no I don't care if it was the first sonic game to introduce the homing attack) and I need never said it was bad I just said it was mediocre (at best)

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was he a traitor to the eggman?

>>384755889
When did I ever bring up the OSTs for Mania or Unleashed? Is your reading comprehension really that terrible? I originally asked when retards like you started pretending Colors was bad. It's not a great game but it's certainly better than shit like Unleashed and how Forces appears so far. In terms of OST Unleashed is great but otherwise it's a bad game. The fact that you went on to defend Sonic 06 shows how fucked your taste is.

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>>384756259
the mouse? not sure but he's definitely seen some shit

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>>384756421
Pretty sure he means the thing that helps Sonic get from one place to the next.

Sky Sanctuary would be great for this game if it wasn't already in Generations.

>>384756328
Wow. I had better reading comprehension in preschool than you do at 18-25. I'm done with you bitchboy. Enjoy Mania like everyone else is and shut up. People who love Colors are mentally retarded and have nothing to offer to me.

I got to play the Taxman Sonic 1 remake yesterday cause I heard it was free now and oh my god it's fucking beautiful. Widescreen and 60fps. Hell, it even controlled pretty well with the touchscreen controls somehow. It felt amazing.

>>384756421
the mouse saw >>384756526 help out sonic and is freaking the fuck out

>>384756685
bet you that TechnoSqueek is going to snitch on him like the bitch he is

>>384752595
literally me

>>384748103
I'm fucking dying because of this wait. Help.

>>384753898
This.

>we will never get a motobug in sonic mania hack

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>>384749419
Are you looking for me? Well i had my old Saturn controller and i bought myself a adaptor from Mayflash, Honestly if you aren't willing to pay more than 100$ then i wouldn't suggest getting a real Saturn controller, Just get a PC Plug controller that's based on the Saturn Controller. Those ones should cost around 10 to 25$?

>>384757701
It helps I have weekly things I look forward to anyway like TV shows and anime. Helps make the wait a little less tedious.

>>384758535
I don't want cheap shit

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>>384753898
3 and knux for adventure
1 for challenge
Flicky Island for comfort

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>>384758620
Then good luck my friend, I can't help you from here.

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>>384757701
Here

Hopefully they show something tomorrow that'll narrow the results

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>>384756259
pretty sure it's just supposed to be a robotic claw and not actually a badnik

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*makes you lose all your rings*
Nothing personal, kid

>>384759387
I have a feeling there's probably no one in the world that has been able to not get hit during Metropolis.

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>>384759387
I-I didn't want those rings anyway

Sonic and the Secret Rings (2007) - Lead Game Designer
Sonic and the Black Knight (2009) - Lead Game Designer
Sonic Colors (Wii Version) (2010) - Director & Lead Game Designer
Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode II (2012) - Special thanks
Sonic Lost World (Wii U Version) (2013) - Director
Sonic Forces (2017) - Director

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>384759467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up8ytWZfgOM

>>384759778
MAD MAN

is taxman a big enough of an autist to add in a secret 'SEE YOU NEXT GAME'?

Why doesn't Knuckles have a boss in Carnival Night Zone 2? It's so weird. He barely even has a Carnival Night Zone 2.

>>384760251
I think he'd be a little more humble then that. Let's wait till Sonic Mania actually sells a lot.

>>384758884
you still here? I got a friend who would give me one of his model one saturn controllers I think, do those mayflash things work well?

>>384761181
I have a mayflash adapter but for the WiiU pro controller and fuck no it's shitty as hell. The dpad and camera stick don't work in half of my fucking games.

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>>384761181
For me Yes. I'm a bit busy playing Splatoon 2 so i'm not fully there also that's offtopic, I really hope Launch Base or Ice Cap gets in somehow.

Played it @ sdcc today, The walking Robotnik mech was pretty challenging for an early boss.

>>384762726
oooh I'm jealous. I got to play it for a couple minutes at PAX '16 but no bosses.

>>384762830
also played it @ the sonic 25th anniversary during sdcc 16. the stream made it more cringey than it actually was

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Sonic Mania soundtrack vinyls now available at DATA-DISCS

https://data-discs.com/products/sonic-mania

>>384763253
Reminder you're best off with the standard black if you actually want to listen to it

It's a comfy Sonic Mania thread, meaning it's time to post favorite Sonic CD songs. One from each soundtrack, please, because both are good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcR0v6I_w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWnxQD5_sw

>>384763654
toot toot and US boss

>yfw comic is saved

How long until the panel?

>>384763593
Explain vinyls to a pleb. How is sound captured in them? How does the coloration affect it?

>>384763965
I doubt it'll be the same

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>>384754769
IMO, Colors only had better control compared to Unleashed. Everything else wasn't that great, or at least, not as good compared to Unleashed.

Unleashed had better writing than Colors, and Unleashed writing wasn't even that good, which is saying something.
Unleashed also had pretty cool world building, which was relatively new to the series. Unleashed generally felt more like an Adventure game than any Modern Sonic game after. Also orchestrated music is amazing.

I don't really know why he said Forces was Colors 2.0, because barring the wisps I get more of an Unleashed vibe from it.

>>384752327
Tails sprite at it's prime: 3L
Knuckles: same
they just look really awfully pillow shaded this time around

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>>384752801
>he doesn't like Launch Base
Fucking disgusting.

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>>384752801
>hating on based Launch Base
>wanting the completely overrated Ice Cap

Go! Go! Go! Go! Go! Go fuck yourself.

>>384752801
I think I hate you

>>384765126
>GO! GO! GO! G-G-GO! GO SEGA!!

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>>384765443
>tfw you used to think it went "Go Kenya" or just "Go Gogo!"

>>384763654
what about your favorite track from the soundtrack of each classic game (1, 2, 3, K, and CD)?

>Sonic 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeuSaNhUWM
>Sonic 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LTEffA3E4
>Sonic 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR3Eh_516JQ
>Sonic & Knuckles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0N77nI_OI
>Sonic CD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnUxrDi5Rws

>favorite playable character
>favorite classic game
>top 5 zones
>3 worst zones
>favorite music track
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
>favorite non classic game
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
>favorite new zone from mania so far
>favorite music track from mania so far

>>384766995
>Sonic
>3&K obviously, but CD is one of my personal favorites for its mere aesthetic
>Flying Battery, Green Hill, Hydrocity, Stardust Speedway, Mystic Cave
>Labyrinth, Metropolis, Metallic Madness
>US
>Don't play much besides the classics, but I think I had fun with Unleashed's day sections
>Sonic Boom
>Studiopolis
>Boss music sounds amazing but unfortunately no clean rip

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
tails
>favorite classic game
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>top 5 zones
1. Hydrocity
2. Lava Reef
3. Scrap Brain
4. Launch Base
5. Wing Fortress
>3 worst zones
1. Wacky Workbench
2. Sandopolis
3. Metropolis
>favorite music track
Lava Reef Act 1 and/or Hydrocity Act 2
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP/PAL for sure
>favorite non classic game
Generations
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
Sonic Boom
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Studiopolis
>favorite music track from mania so far
The remixed zone act 2 boss music (the one that plays during the death egg robot boss in green hill act 2)

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>>384766995
>>favorite playable character
Knuckles
>>favorite classic game
2
>>top 5 zones
In no particular order;
Flying Battery
Mystic Cave
Quartz Quadrant
Launch Base
Star Light
>>3 worst zones
In no particular order;
Metropolis
Oil Ocean
Sandopolis
>>favorite music track
Flying Battery
>>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP/PAL
>>favorite non classic game
Generations
>>favorite sonic cartoon/show
Never really watched any growing up honestly.
>>favorite new zone from mania so far
Mirage Saloon
>>favorite music track from mania so far
Flying Battery

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Might be the wrong place to ask but is Sonic Adventure DX worth playing if I kind of enjoyed Sonic Heroes?

I'm mostly getting it to unlock the classic games, but still.

>>384767529
> t. adventure fag

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>>384767529
I like all areas of Sonic but Mania looks hype as shit. Forces being a close second. I do eventually want an "Adventure 3", though probably not in name because it could be Sonic 4 all over again.
>That being said 2D Sonic sucks.
(You)

>>384767558
Its totally random. I would recommend any Sonic game to a Sonic fan but I think Adventure 1 is one of the worst games in the series. Heroes is my favorite pre boost Sonic.

>>384767529
Go back to your shithole.
>>384767558
Nah, it's riddled with bugs and the textures look worse. Play the original one in an emulator (I suggest NullDC), it's better like that.

>>384749203
Chemistry engine confirmed

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Sonic

>favorite classic game
Sonic 2

>top 5 zones
Flying Battery/Metropolis/Hydrocity/Mystic Cave/Spring Yard

>3 worst zones
Sandopolis/Scrap Brain(act 3)/Lava Reef(act 2)

>favorite music track
Marble Zone

>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP, of course. US has some good tracks

>favorite non classic game
Sonic Heroes

>favorite sonic cartoon/show
Don't remember any of them

>favorite new zone from mania so far
Mirage Saloon

>favorite music track from mania so far
Mirage Saloon

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>>384767529
Good. Adventurefags BTFO and I can't stop raffing.

>practice

Nigga, I beat all of the classic genesis Sonic games when I was an 8 year old.

Everybody is ready for Sonic. They designed these games to be beaten by small children who are bad at games.

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>>384766995
>>favorite playable character
Knuckles
>>favorite classic game
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>>top 5 zones
lava reef
wing fortress
sky sanctuary
star light
stardust speedway
>>3 worst zones
Metropolis
Marble
Metallic Madness Act 3 Good Future
>>favorite music track
https://youtu.be/21ZSrPIFETg
>>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP
>>favorite non classic game
Generations
>>favorite sonic cartoon/show
Sonic X
>>favorite new zone from mania so far
Studiopolis
>>favorite music track from mania so far
Heavies

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Sonic
>favorite classic game
S3&K
>top 5 zones
1. Flying Battery
2. Stardust Speedway
3. Death Egg (S3&K)
4. Quartz Quadrant
5. Marble Garden
>3 worst zones
1. Sandopolis
2. Wacky Workbench
3. Labyrinth
>favorite music track
So many to list off, but if I had to choose 3
1. Quartz Quadrant Present
2. Stardust Speedway Past
3. Ice Cap
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP/PAL for sure
>favorite non classic game
Sonic/Shadow sections in the Adveture titles.
If that doesn't count, then Generations
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
Never watched them growing up, but I'd go with Boom
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Mirage Saloon
>favorite music track from mania so far
Hard-Boiled Heavies. The Jet Set Radio feel to it makes me gravitate towards it.

Anyone else going to marathon all of the classic games the day before Mania? I'm really looking foward to this game. I don't remember the last time I've ever gotten way too excited as an adult. I just can't wait.

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Sonic
>favorite classic game
Sonic 2
>top 5 zones
Emerald Hill
Hydrocity
Casino Night
Flying Battery
Aquatic Ruin
>3 worst zones
Marble Zone
Metallic Madness
Wacky Workbench
>favorite music track
Scrap Brain
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
US>JP but JP has some great tracks. I dislike neither.
>favorite non classic game
SA
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
SatAM
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Studiopolis
>favorite music track from mania so far
Mirage Saloon

Should mention I fucking hate the main theme/invincibility music in Mania. Far too repetitive.

>>384768483
Sonic CD JPN > Sonic 2 Super > Sonic 1 > Sonic Mania > Sonic and Knuckles > Sonic 3 > Sonic CD US in terms of invisibility themes IMO.

Give me one reason I should play as Tails or Knuckles over Sonic. Their abilities break the level and are no fun.

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>>384769448
Knuckles is cooler than Sonic and Tails has control over all animals in his domain

>>384756574
If you had any more edge, you'd be a DeviantArt OC.

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>>384767529
>it's an adventurecuck episode

>>384769585
>Knuckles is cooler than Sonic
I like Sonic a lot but I don't think I can dispute this. He can punch shit, he's got his laugh animation from 3&K, and he has the freshest beats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlqvDEWMPKw

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>>384767529
cry some more

>>384769992
Holy shit that image is perfect

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>>384769812
>it's a "only classic exists" episode

Truly the worst fanbase. Even though most people weren't happy with Wind Waker, I'm pretty sure nobody pretends it never happened.

Thanks guys, these repeatedly godawful threads have calmed my hype for the game

>>384752595
What show is this from?

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>Tfw you like the Classic, Adventure, and Boost Formula
>Even kinda liked the Lost World Parkour

Can't we all just get along?

>>384771546
No because theres always some uppity nigger who jumps your shit if you say your favorite sanic isnt 3

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>>384771587
Well my favorite is 2, but I'm also partial to SA2, and Unleashed. Sonic the Fight me faggots.

>>384771587
The first 3 stages of Sonic 3 is the peak of the franchise
Everything after and especially &K are inferior to 2

>>384750169
Does Chris even play the games or care about them aside from Boom? I've never heard his opinions on the games before it's always about his OC.

>>384771546
StH3 is my favorite 2D game
Adventure 1&2 are my favorite series
But Unleashed is my favorite 3D game

I actually hate the boost formula but Unleashed is just so god damn comfy.

>>384771784
oh please

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>>384771784
>Oil Ocean and Metropolis better than most of Sonic 3 & K
>Implying Ice Cap, Launch Base, Flying Battery, Sky Sanctuary, and Death Egg are bad
>Implying Angel Island, Hydrocity, and especially Marble Garden are the peak of 2D Sonic

Could've sworn I had the Sonic version of this pic but I guess I don't.

>>384755012
uwe boll sonic movie when?

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>>384763965
>"saved"
>IDW now has both the Sonic and MLP licenses

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>>384772847
Don't fucking imply what I think you're implying.

HOW MANY MORE HOURS UNTIL PANEL REEEEEEEEEE

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>>384772343
>Oil Ocean
where did this meme come from? because I keep hearing people complain about Oil Ocean being way too long so I put in a cheat code to play the zone (act 1 second take act 2 first) and neither clocked at over 3 minutes. Do you guys just suck? and this is coming from a guy who spends several minutes with carnival night. Only real problem is asshole enemy placement and it's nowhere near as bad as Metropolis.

Reminder that Sonic & Tails team in Mania are keeping their ability to use flight in single player so if you use that team you get both Sonic's skills and Tails's ability to fly.

Recommend me more music like Hyperportions that made music played in Mania trailer.

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>>384773401
I hate it for a multitude of reasons, honestly.
One, it's music is pretty lackluster compared to the rest of the game. It's instruments are just bad IMO.
I also find it too open for a Sonic level. It's hard to tell were to go sometimes. It also has very little speed sections. It's about as bad as Labyrinth Zone.
That, coupled with the bad enemy placement and spikes galore make it one of the worst zones in the classic era for me.

>>384774072

>I also find it too open for a Sonic level. It's hard to tell were to go sometimes.

Are you fucking kidding me.

>>384774165
Alright, maybe not anymore because I've played Sonic 2 like a gajilion times, but when I first played it it was cryptic as fuck.
"Open" may not be the best way to describe it, but I just don't fucking like the level design in Oil Ocean.

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>>384767529
You still trying this shit?

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>>384774072
>it's music is pretty lackluster compared to the rest of the game. It's instruments are just bad IMO.
how does that make it a bad level though?
>I also find it too open for a Sonic level
it's really not, if this is too much than 3&K must be torture for you
>It also has very little speed sections. It's about as bad as Labyrinth Zone.
what? Labyrinth is a slog because you spend most of the time in water at half speed with no spin dash. Oil Ocean is just "don't fuck up with the platforming and if you get hit spin dash your momentum back"
>That, coupled with the bad enemy placement and spikes galore make it one of the worst zones in the classic era for me.
I'll give you bad enemy placement but I never have a problem with the spikes. It's not like Sonic 1 where there's no invincibly frame

Honestly Oil Ocean feels like a Sonic 1 level to me, more emphasis on platforming which is a juxtaposition from Sonic 2's simplified platforming. Maybe that's why people hate it, Sonic 1 seems to be the least favorite out of the classic series.

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>>384753757
Kill yourself then.

>>384753576
>nobody wants to see any Knuckles zone except Flying Battery
Or you know FUCKING LAVA REEF. Damn, you really don't know shit about anything.

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>>384775073
>how does that make it a bad level though?
The music is a part of the level. Good music can make a frustrating level a lot more tolerable IMO.
>it's really not, if this is too much than 3&K must be torture for you
See
>>384774510
>what? Labyrinth is a slog because you spend most of the time in water at half speed with no spin dash. Oil Ocean is just "don't fuck up with the platforming and if you get hit spin dash your momentum back"
Labyrinth also has blocky level design, which makes gaining speed more difficult and generally makes the level design bland. Same goes for oil ocean.
>I'll give you bad enemy placement but I never have a problem with the spikes. It's not like Sonic 1 where there's no invincibly frame
Like the enemies, they aren't very well placed, IMO.
>Honestly Oil Ocean feels like a Sonic 1 level to me, more emphasis on platforming which is a juxtaposition from Sonic 2's simplified platforming. Maybe that's why people hate it, Sonic 1 seems to be the least favorite out of the classic series.
Honestly, that's exactly why. It feels largely out of place in Sonic 2.

>>384775456
you can just, like, turn your volume down so you don't have to listen to it
music isnt really a valid point when you don't necessarily need to listen to it

>>384775538
That doesn't excuse it from being bad anon. And either way, the level still isn't enjoyable. Metropolis might be bullshit but I find it way less aggravating when listening to it's badass ZZ. Top-eske track. Oil Ocean doesn't even have a nice track

>>384775538
>you can just, like, turn you system off so you don't have to play it
>level design isnt really a valid point when you don't necessarily need to play it

HOW LONG UNTIL THE PANEL

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>>384776000
if your game is carried by music, it's probably bad.
but Sonic 2 isn't bad, you're just throwing a 'tism fit over something that really shouldn't be that essential
I'll give you the fact that the level design is shit, but that's not what I'm addressing; just turn the music off dude

>>384776173
12 hours, I think.

>>384776206
>playing Sonic games of all things muted
What the FUCK is wrong with you?

Oil Ocean's level design is fine. You people complain about anything that isn't all fast all day.

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I just thought Oil Ocean got too much shit for being a pretty painless zone, didn't mean to flare everyone's autism with it

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>>384776327
Yeah, God forbid people want to go fast in a fucking SONIC GAME.

I bet Marble Zone, Labyrinth Zone, Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic 06, and Sonic Boom where good as well.

Any leaks on the Vinyl track list?

>>384776504
Thankfully no.

>>384776401
It's still easily the worst zone in the game, barring the obvious Metropolis Zone. Honestly, I think the reason it gets so much shit is because it's a really bad zone in an otherwise fairly flawless game. Same reason why Sandopolis is just so hated.

Honestly, I didn't even know hated Lava Reef Act 2.

>>384776448

>Yeah, God forbid people want to go fast in a fucking SONIC GAME.

They can though, it's just not as easy.

But the catch is that Classic Sonic isn't about fast, it's about momentum and using it in a satisfying way. Oil Ocean doesn't really excel in that regard but it isn't suddenly shit because it doesn't have a bunch of "fast" setpieces.

>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Sonic
>favorite classic game
Sonic 2
>top 5 zones
1. Mystic Cave
2. Hydrocity
3. Lava Reef
4. Chemical Plant
5. Stardust Speedway
>3 worst zones
1. Oil Ocean
2. Marble
3. Wacky Workbench
>favorite music track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR3Eh_516JQ
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP
>favorite non classic game
Adventure 2
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
Sonic X
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Studiopolis
>favorite music track from mania so far
Studiopolis, obviously https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Sonic
>favorite classic game
3&K
>top 5 zones
Lava Reef
Stardust Speedway
Tidal tempest
Ice Cap
Collision Chaos
>3 worst zones
Metropolis
Hill Top
Sky Fortress
>favorite music track
Stardust Speedway (Present JP)
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP
>favorite non classic game
Advance 1
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
I've never liked any of them
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Mirage Saloon
>favorite music track from mania so far
Mirage Saloon

>>384776832
It has no "fast" set pieces at all.And no, the oil slides don't count because it's pretty much automated. Again, it's pretty much a Sonic 1 level in Sonic 2.
It just doesn't fit the game at all, and it's generally a unmemorable track. At least Metropolis is infamously bad. Oil Ocean is just shitty and boring as fuck to boot.

>>384776448
As someone who has extensively played every mainline Sonic game, Sonic 06 is actually faster than Sonic 1, Colors, and Lost World generally speaking. Sonic 1 is fuckin trash.

>>384777041

>Again, it's pretty much a Sonic 1 level in Sonic 2.

Which is bad because...?

Hell, I don't even mind Metropolis because I don't get triggered by the odd unfair hit, I just get another shield and move on.

I hope Mania doesn't end being a walk in the park because every resemblance of an obstacle gets shat on for "breaking the speed".

>>384763654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcDrM3qUDGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd_NcMZ3xcQ

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>>384777184
>Which is bad because...?
Sonic 1 levels are not very good. Shocking, I know, but most are fucking slogs to play through, and Oil Ocean is not different.

>I hope Mania doesn't end being a walk in the park because every resemblance of an obstacle gets shat on for "breaking the speed".
>Oil Ocean having no speed at all is just an " obstacle"
Yeah, no, fuck off.

Oil Ocean is not a well designed level in the slightest. Fuck even some Sonic CD levels understand to have some enjoyable speed sections.

You want levels that "break the speed" and are good, look at most 3&K levels.

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>>384777184
People really don't care for Sonic 1 here or really in general. Every time you get a person spouting the "sonic was never good" line they're always talking about things in Sonic 1 like the tone changes and slow platforming. I like Sonic 1 it's a more platform focused experience compared to Sonic 2's speed and CD's exploration but it's an acquired taste and Oil Ocean fucks with Sonic 2's speedy tone.

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>>384766995

>favorite playable character

Sonic.

>favorite classic game

3K

>top 5 zones

Egg Rocket
Scrap Brain
Launch Base
Death Egg (3K)
Lava Reef

>3 worst zones

Marble
Aquatic Ruins
Tidal Tempest

>favorite music track

Stardust Speedway Present (JP)

>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL

JP

>favorite non classic game

Tie between SA2, Spinball and Mean Bean Machine.

>favorite sonic cartoon/show

SatAM

>favorite new zone from mania so far

Chemical Plant Act 2

>favorite music track from mania so far

Mirage Saloon but it's honestly a toss up between all the others.

>>384777591
>>384777502

Sonic 1 is ranked low because the other classic games are just all around better, not because it's a bad game. I myself consider it to be the worst one yet I still love the game.

>fucking slogs / not a well designed level

Nah mate, I rather dodge through shit in Labyrinth than watch Sonic get launched in the air by a setpiece in Hydrocity. At least I'm actually playing the game on one. Not that the latter is a bad zone or anything, I still love it for the physics manipulation you can do in it, but it isn't a good zone because "holy shit do you remember that part that you went so fast that you ran over water??".

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>>384777950
Sonic 1 is so bad its not even in this picture. Nobody but contrarians care about it. Its only gifts is being the start of the series and Green Hill/Starlight. Everyones memories lie with either Sonic 2 or 3 and 1 is not only inferior to these but just boring to play in general

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>>384778158
Wrong pic

>>384778158

>Nobody but contrarians care about it.

Nah, it's just the weakest. That doesn't make it a bad game no matter how many times you try to push it just because you have a short attention span.

>>384777950
Nah, Sonic 1 I find legitimately flawed compared to the other Classic games. Granted, that's because it was the first game, but that doesn't mean it's protected from criticism.

And yes, slogs are not well designed, in any game.
Labyrinth isn't fun. It's slow, it's nerve-racking because of the risk of drowning, and there's fucking PUZZLES.

Most of Sonic 1's levels go completely against the character. Yes, sonic is meant to go fast, whether you like it or not. And then the character is standing on floating platforms over lava, or drowning in water, it just isn't enjoyable. Sonic can have platforming and be fast. Most of Sonic 2, and 3&K are proof of that.

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>>384778215
how is CD contrarian? Everybody used to call it the best in the series until a few years ago when they realized it wasn't as good as they remember.

The new Canned Furry will be out before Sonic Mania.
Fuck.

>>384778251
Its not a matter of attention span. Its not a fun game to play. You get a kickass start with Green Hill thinking that will be all the game. It hits you that that would be way to good to be true. And then the rug is pulled on you in the second level. Sonic 1 is poorly designed and extremely mediocre. Its not so bad its interesting like Shadow, its just...boring like Lost World and Boom. Games that everyone has already forgotten about.

>>384778334

Of course it's flawed, if it was perfect I'd be topping the rank charts. It just depends on how hard you go on it. I for one appreciate zones like Labyrinth, I don't mind the water or the change of pace, it's not as good as zones like Starlight but it doesn't make me want to quit the game because I still enjoy going through it without taking a hit and shit.

I see people every time in these threads saying they drop the games at Oil Ocean/Sandopolis and I have to wonder how do you even handle other genres of platformers.

>>384778468

That'd be true players completely hated the slow zones which isn't true at all, Scrap Brain was already favorited twice in this thread alone.

I will say this again, S1 isn't flawless and it definitely has flaws, but it, just like Oil Ocean, aren't inherently bad or trash just because they aren't easy fast all time.

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This is a Hype Bubble.
You are all setting yourselves up for disappointment.
Have you learned nothing?
Especially Sonic fans. Have you learned nothing?

>>384766995
>>favorite playable character
Sonic
>>favorite classic game
Sonic 1
>>top 5 zones
Bridge Zone, Marble Garden, Hydro-City, Springyard, Stardust Speedway
>>3 worst zones
Emerald Hill, Lava Reef, Ice Cap
>>favorite music track
Hydro-City Act2
>>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
Pal/JP
>>favorite non classic game
Adventure 2
>>favorite sonic cartoon/show
N/A
>>favorite new zone from mania so far
Green Hill
>>favorite music track from mania so far
Boss theme

>>384767529
I enjoy both 2D and 3D Sonic. I think this Mania vs Forces shit is stupid.

>>384767558
Don't know if your still here but look up BetterSADX

>>384778720
Your slow argument is dumb. I'm friends with the elusive Unleashedfag and she talks about this all the time. How it's not that bad because hey, you're still running and jumping with the added flair of flashy combat right? I could potentially see an argument in that, but defending Labyrinth or Marble in any capacity is just beyond me. Slowing down isn't a problem. Poor level design, obstacles, and controls are the problem. We will just agree to disagree.

>>384778720
Well, most people don't like it when a game takes a drastic turn, especially when that turn goes against the design of the character. And I honestly don't get why people enjoy Scrap Brain, because it's a bad level itself. And even then, your logic there is flawed, because nearly everyone's least favorite levels in the thread happen to be slow and boring levels.

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>>384778993

Let's leave it at that then, it's hard to articulate this without being actually in person and playing the game together. I'd love to actually have this argument in that scenario.

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>>384779171
True, alright then man.

>>384778750
Except we know exactly what were getting, a good classic style game.
The most disappointed I could be at this point is if the old levels are shitty obvious picks like ice cap, sky sanctuary, etc, and if the new levels are too much like Sonic CD.

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>>384776294
I don't? But if music's such a problem for anon, that's his best option if it's getting under his skin that much

>>384779325
I don't get why he's being a bitch about the music. The worst Sonic 2 music is still leaps ahead of some of the other shit on the genesis. Need I remind you of classics such as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGWSijvWxFI

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>>384778750
You seem to have learned absolutely nothing of Mania. Here, I'll help ya out.

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>>384778750
>>384779514

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>>384779325
My original point was that Oil Ocean doesn't have good music to compensate it's bad level design.
It's not the main problem, but it certainly makes a bad level even worse.
>>384779424
>Hey, this is bad, but at least it's not the worst thing in EXISTENCE
That's not a very high bar to set anon.

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>>384779424
OW AND EW
this is like a fucking snotrocket in audio form

>>384752020
There are people who don't like Sonic CD (JP soundtrack included) and are upset that Mania seems to be taking so much from it.

I'm not one of those people, but the complains seems valid to me.

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>>384778750
you just don't know anon...you just don't know

How many hours left?

>>384779424
some of it is pretty groovy though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vicY7PmAL0

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Knuckles

>favorite classic game
Sonic 3 (& Knuckles)

>top 5 zones
Angel Island
Hydrocity
Sandopolis
Scrap Brain
Stardust Speedway

>3 worst zones
Hill Top
Mystic Cave
Metropolis

>favorite music track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYzgCI6Q1I

>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP/PAL

>favorite non classic game
Sonic Colors

>favorite sonic cartoon/show
I really don't like any of them. I'd probably pick X if I were forced to watch any of those.

>favorite new zone from mania so far
Studiopolis

>favorite music track from mania so far
Sudiopolis

>>384780870
The Spinball soundtrack isn't completely unsalvageable. The options music is just so godawful

>>384780870
This version is so much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61jXJUAR7I

>>384748103
Holy hit guys! did you know that the final boss is Egg Man? i never would have guessed!!!!

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>>384781195
>implying
No seriously.

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>>384781195
how can that be when the final boss is actually snively

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Who would be up for StC storytime?

>>384781665
Get this fucking turd out of here.

>>384781195
It's a Megazord esque robot made from the Heavies.

>>384781665
Go for it.

>>384781665
go on lad

>>384781665
>Fleetway
I'm down. Let's see some Asshole Sonic.

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
Sonic
>favorite classic game
Sonic 3 & Knuckles (I think I prefer the Sonic 3 half)
>top 5 zones
1. Hydrocity Zone
2. Stardust Speedway Zone (Past>Present>Bad Future>Good Future)
3. Flying Battery Zone
4. Lava Reef Zone
5. Launch Base Zone
>3 worst zones
1. Sandopolis Zone
2. Labyrinth Zone
3. Wacky Workbench
>favorite music track
Stardust Speedway (Past)
Hyped as fuck to hear Tee's version of it.
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP/PAL, but I do adore Tidal Tempest heavily in the US soundtrack
>favorite non classic game
Sonic Generations
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
SatAM
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Studiopolis Zone
>favorite music track from mania so far
I think Mirage Saloon Act.2, after hearing it updated & polished it sounds extra sexy. The mini-boss music & Studiopolis Act.1 are close behind though.

>>384752801
Launch Base, Carnival Night, and Ice Cap all have completely different music in the PC release. It's all pretty great too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEh2o2bqz8

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>>384781891
>long time no see
STOP FUCKING STOOOOOP

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Jumping forward a bunch of issues because nothing really happens until they introduce Amy and change Robotnik to his AostH design

>>384778358
I played CD for the first time this year and the level design was abysmal, I also played some of Knuckles Chaotix, and the level design was honestly not that much worse than CD, and the lin mechanic was FUN.

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>>384766995
>Sonic
>Sonic 3 and Knuckles
>Hydrocity, Flying Battery, Mystic Cave, Chemical Plant, Sandopolis
>Metropolis, Labyrinth, Marble
>Fight between Hydrocity Act 2, Flying Battery Act 2 and Sandopolis Act 2
>JP/PAL
>Sonic Colors
>Don't have a particular favorite
>Studiopolis
>Green Hill/Chemical Plant Act 2

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>>384766995
>favorite playable character
K.T.E
>favorite classic game
S3&K is the reason why I'm still around Sonic
>top 5 zones
Death egg(3K), Ice cap, Dooms day, Casino night, Scrap brain
>3 worst zones
Wacky workshit, Oil ocean, Metallic madness
>favorite music track
Flying battery
>CD soundtrack: US or JP/PAL
JP/PAL tho some tracks in US are really great
>favorite non classic game
Sonic adventure 1
>favorite sonic cartoon/show
unironically Sonic X season 1
>favorite new zone from mania so far
Mirage Saloon feels like that unreleased level from sonic 2.
>favorite music track from mania so far
Stuidopolis

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>>384781930
R O C C

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>>384782254
I don't really like most of these the tracks in the S&K Collection, they sound kind of annoying to me honestly, especially how Ice Cap begins in both acts. Launch Base Act.2's, the Competition menu music & Super Sonic music I liked a lot though. Also I don't like this track track but Knuckles' Theme sounds hilarious to me, it feels like a joke of a song.

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Jumping forward a few issues again

>>384752601
>I don't know why people consider Ice Cap having the same music problems that Launch Base and Carnival Night does.
Because the PC port of Sonic 3 had changed music for CN, IC and LB. There's definitely a legal issue involved whether it's MJ or not.