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24 days left

Will this be at least better than Knuckles Chaotix?
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Yes.

Anyway, just pre-ordered the game. The wait begins...
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>>384705349
>24 days left
I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG
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>>384705349
It might be better than 3&K even.
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2D Sonic games are shit, I could care less
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Amy will either be unlockable after beating the game or DLC, screencap this.
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>>384706145
At least you care a bit.
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Just impulse bought Unleashed, what am I in for /v/ros?
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>>384706991

half a good game
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>>384706991
Half a bad game.
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>>384706145
>I could care less
It wasn't a surprise that you were an idiot in the last thread and it isn't a surprise now.
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>>384705349
>>384705160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYK2sLOfeMI
FLICKIES ARE MYSTERIOUS BIRDS. THEY LIVE IN ANOTHER DIMENSION AND CAN TRAVEL ANYWHERE THROUGH LARGE RINGS.
ROBOTNIK LEARNS ABOUT THE FLICKIES.
"i WILL CHANGE THE FLICKIES INTO ROBOTS AND HAVE THEM SEARCH FOR THE CHAOS EMERALDS FOR ME. USING THE INDITE POWER OF THE EMERALDS, I CAN CONQUER THE WORLD!"
SONIC VISITS FLICKY ISLAND TO SEE HIS FRIENDS, BUT THE ONLY THING HE FINDS ARE ROBOTS!
"ROBOTNIK MADE MY FRIENDS LIKE THIS. I MUST SAVE THEM! ROBOTNIK MUST BE STOPPED."
SONIC STARTS TO DEFEAT THE ENEMIES IN ORDER TO RESCUE THE FLICKIES WHO ARE TRAPPED INSIDE.
GO SONIC! YOU CAN WARP THROUGH THE BIG RINGS WITH THE HELP OF THE FLICKIES CHASE AFTER ROBOTNIK AND DEFEAT HIS PLANS!
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>>384705349
How could it possibly be worse?
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this wait is unbearable.
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>>384707036
>>384707071
Bad half being werehog I assume? I love the boost formula (Colors is my favorite Sonic game) so I hope that the werehog is bearable.
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>>384706991
a good game
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>>384707550
Werehog is a pretty fun beat em up
And the atmosphere at night is top notch, when there are no enemies around at least
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>>384705349
24 days & knuckles
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>>384707550
Honestly I was just fucking around when posting the half bad thing. I don't recall how I felt when I was playing as the werehog at all (I only played the Wii version also by the way). I hear it shat on a lot though.
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>>384707071
"Half" is charitable since the Daytime levels feel like they're over in a minute and the Werehog levels are twenty plus minute slogs.
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>>384707993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGVzRlNg5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7zfi3uo4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xnYxWa2So8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beNfj2tlQ1o
oh no
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>>384708076
I'm a 100% Nintendofag but somebody gave me their PS3 for free so I'm really only playing the Sonic games I missed. Hope the Wii version doesn't have anything significant that makes it worth playing over the PS3 version.
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>>384708351
Don't worry, the Wii version sucks.
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>>384708871
It's actually not really bad at all. The Werehog is more tolerable in that version because the stages are much shorter and more platforming-oriented. I also liked how they did the medal system in that they weren't placed randomly in the stages to collect but rather you got them for completing stages and depending on your rank you got more or less of them. (And getting a high rank is piss easy so you pretty much always got three of them at a time.) MUCH more tolerable than the HD versions' medal hunting, by far. The Gaia Temples are neat to mess around with and they usually involve switching back and forth between Sonic and the Werehog on the fly. It's the daytime stages and "hub worlds" that are severely lacking compared to the HD versions. I think the final boss was less annoying too. (The Gaia Temple fight thing was just Punch Out rather than a series of QTEs.) Then again, I am talking about the PS2 version which didn't have the waggle but I'm told that it wasn't even forced so maybe the Wii and PS2 aren't that much different anyway.

I think if you can get it for under ten bux you could do a lot worse for a Sonic game from that era. By DIMPS, no less.
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>>384705349
A lot of things are better than Knuckles' Chaotix.
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>>384706991
An okay game overall, assuming it's the HD version.
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Hopefully Splatoon 2 can hold me over long enough.
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/v/

Story Time? Pre-hype SDCC announcement addition?
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Anyone else literally planning on buying Mania on multiple systems? PC and PS4 here, and if I had a Switch I would buy it on that too. I really want Mania to sell lots and lots of copies.
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>>384712568
Bought it on all consoles, and gifted to friends.
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>>384712478
yes do it
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>>384712478
Go right ahead.
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Get comfy.
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>>384705349
yes it will. its gonna be a masterpiece.
ALL THOSE FUCKING "FLAWS" WITH THE SONIC SERIES ARE ABOUT TO IMPLODE ONTOP TOF THEMSELVES. SONIC IS BACK BABY
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>>384706080
Whoa now.
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Sonic balancing the eyeball on his foot, cheeky little shit.
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Sonic Mania sequel to have all this comics levels, make this happen.
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Hey look, Rosy.
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>>384712934
>giant enemy crab

holy shit did old school /v/ write this comic?
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Can any of you jaded fucks really look at this face and say you don't want her to make even a CAMEO in Mania?
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>>384713662
I do but we fucking need mighty and the chaotics in this game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1rV9kFs6I
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Shout out to I WILL POST THIS EVERY DAY UNTIL Mania bro even though I've seen you change the list 3 times <3
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this type of thing clearly desont' sell
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That final fucking line for Knuckles, every time.
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>>384713452
It says Amy right there, ya chuckle fuck.
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>>384713452
I LIKE ROSY THE RASCAL
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>>384714342
Who?
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Fucking BEST page.
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>>384707071
Play it and find out, fag lord.
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Dat broship.
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>>384714676
It just finished downloading, now it's installing. I guess I will find out!
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Post the next issue!
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>>384714676
Buy me it then.
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>>384712478
>SDCC announcement
When is that gonna be?
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>>384714876
Coming up, few more pages of issue 1, funniest ones in my opinion.
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>>384715000
Tomorrow.
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Incoming issue 2.
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Metal Sonic is one of my favorite characters in the whole series. I love his expressiveness in Sonic 4 and CD without anything spoken. I hope they do him justice in Forces, Generations was a bit disappointing. Mania appearance would be amazing too.
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>>384715449
Ohhh you're gonna like this comic.
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Bottom Panel all cleaned up and turned into a wallpaper WHEN?
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Reaction images: The Comic
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>>384714591
indeed this page is put together pretty spectacularly and the "stages'" they are going to would fit in a real Sonic game
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Oh shit, didn't give music for the new zone, my bad anons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esCHpQXcJSM
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next game should be called Sonic Mega Drive made by the Mania team and should use zones from this comic, with the same story as well.
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>>384706080
Let's not get crazy here
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Shouting at Tails is punishable by death, Knuckles. It's time to pay for your crimes.
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>>384705349
>implying Knuckles Chaotix was bad
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EVEN when he shouted at him, Tails is still a bro and helps him up.
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>>384716198
too bad that things dead
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>>384705349
>people are exciting about a romhack that isnt even good
sega fans have reached a new low
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Fucking adore that final panel shot of Sonic, all silhouette style looking back, god tier.
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>>384715658
Happened ages ago.
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>>384716349
>that isn't even good
Oh wow cool so you got to play the whole game already?
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>>384716349
>isnt even good
Wow you've played Mania? I'm jealous.
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>>384716425
>>384716439
you retards always fall for it.

how much are they paying you to shill?
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(you)
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Final image is begging to be abused by anons in this page.
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>>384716505
please leave. you're a minor nuisance to the fun we're having.
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>>384716559
>please leave
make me shill.

mirage saloon is one of the worst sonic levels ever made.
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>>384712998
>>384716172
I'm being serious here. 3&K is my favorite game of all time and based on everything we know of Mania I genuinely think it can top it.
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>>384716349
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0N77nI_OI

>>384716638
We're just enjoying a comic and having anon, no need to get salty at others having fun.
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>>384705349
>Pre-ordered the Collector's edition for Switch

Wew can't wait my dudes
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>>384716638
someone's still mad about not being able to finish sandopolis :^)
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This fucking middle shot of the entire classic crew all reforming, ASCENDED GOD TIER STATUS, ACHIEVED. Every single ones personality told to the reader in a single frame.
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>>384705349
You must like chaotix alot since we are hyping it as a rival to 3&k
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>>384716683
itms already confirmed to have a lot of re-used stages from past games, which already sets it back
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>>384716638
There are other threads on /v/ that need your incredible superpower of telling whether a game is fun or not just by looking at it.
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Final panel, good guy Sonic. Our little blue fuckface.
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>>384706080
Only if they put Super Tails back in. I need my OP boss killing flickies.
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>>384716276
It was.
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>>384717036
>re-used stages
This meme again?
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>>384705349
>being excited about a romhack
I seriously hope you dont do this
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Eggman dies here, this is my head canon. He suicides.
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Sirens are heard in the distance.
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>>384717036
But they already shown with new level design, mechanics (some of that can now be effected by Elemental Shields even), bosses and graphically & musically speaking they've been given more detailed/remixed (especially Act.2s), it adds a lot to the stage & makes it feel refreshing.
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>>384717358
Samefagging will get you nowhere, anon.
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>>384717036
GHZ Acts 1 and 2 from Sonic 1 versus GHZ Act 1 from Mania (and the Mania map's not even complete, it's just one what anon could stitch together from footage we've seen)

At the end of the day who gives a shit if we're in Green Hill Zone versus a brand new starting zone that takes place in a lush green environment that's Totally Not Green Hill Zone Guys. The only thing that matters is good level design and Mania has that in spades.
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>>384717493
>But they already shown with new level design
>new
remaking green hill zone 50 times is new level design?
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pirate bay has the best deals.
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METAL SONIC

THANK YOU ANON THIS IS GODLIKE
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Did this because I was bored and the original infographic was too eager to rule stages out. Walks back on some things, adds others. Worth the time making it? Fuck no

Next I'm going to look for level design ripped right out of launch base Act 2 and put into chemical plant act 1 because they were already similar. Mania's green hill did that to palmtree panic. The new bottom section of the stage is basically PP.
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>>384717664
He is god tier, anon.
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>>384717789
This is very cool and I like it.
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>>384717789
delete this
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>>384717562
You do know what level design is, right? >>384717549 shows it has new level design that wasn't in the original at all and that's not even showing off Mania's Act.2 at all.
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>>384717789
Holy fuck anon can't wait to properly read this after the story time, nice.
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>>384718000
>scrambling an old level makes a new original level
romhack tier logic

into the trash you all go.
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Metal Sonic is horrifying.
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oh god I am loving this.

now I really want a Sonic Mega Drive game to happen like I suggested above. The Metal Sonic bossfights would be amazing.
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>>384718000
Anon, you realise you're replying to the same one anon who comes into every Mania thread and repeats himself over and over, right? Just don't reply, really easy bud, he is just here because he is bored.
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>>384718152
Scrambled Egg isn't in Mania though.
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>>384718152
>wh-who cares if it has great new level designs and remixes fun gimmicks from the entire series together, it uses SET PIECES from the original so it's JUST A ROMHACK
Okay anon.
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Unspoiler because thats how hype I am, KICK HIS FUCKING ASS BOYS!
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>>384718412
problem is that the remixes arent even good.

fuck off with your shit romhack
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>>384717789
>Badniks are not stage exclusive
Except for Sonic 1 (and maybe Sonic CD? I forget) I'm pretty sure they are

Besides which, some of the gimmicks shown off are probably too non-specific to rule something out. The "Labyrinth" platforms in Studiopolis come to mind as well as the ruling out of Spring Yard based on the "cross-collapse" thing.

I respect the effort nonetheless but I think people are going a little too far with the infographics on this theory. It's a safe guess to assume most of these stages are out but if being a Smash fan has taught me anything, it's that patternfags nearly always end up getting BTFO'd for reading too much into stuff like this.
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>>384717789
I like how you've put this together, good job!
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>inb4 mighty with the instashield is an unlock after beating the game
They've got one of the guys from megamix working on this so it could happen.
It probably won't, but dreams don't die.
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>>384718291
I know there have been multiple shitposters but I honestly thought >>384717036 was legit at first and was hoping the second post was just a misunderstanding, I had my doubts of course though.
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>>384717789
Why did you not include 2's Hidden Palace? As of the 2013 remake it's part of the official lineup of stages. Also only Sonic 1 (out of the classics at least) reused enemies between multiple zones, meaning they should be treated the same way as stage specific gimmicks for Mania.
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I warn you now. Do not open the next spoilers I post in the final page of this comic. If you -dare- open the first one, maybe, but do not open the second one, you have been warned.
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>>384718702
Post the next issue!
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>>384718919
anon........
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>>384718654
The crabs and buzzbombers from Green Hill are in Spring Yard. The bombs from Starlight are in Scrap Brain.

Apart from one instance i can't remember if there are any cross zone badniks in CD though.
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Ken FUCKING Penders got the entire Archie comic line shut down, including this being cancelled, we will NEVER, EVER get the finale because some fat disgusting fuck wanted to make his OC knuckles family which nobody wanted, and he sits at conventions waiting for people to come, and nobody does. He ruined EVERYTHING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Uo0VJihCU
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>>384717789
How is Mirage Saloon's water bottle from Death Egg?
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SO I DARED KEN TO GET THE ARCHIE SONIC/MEGADRIVE COMICS CANCELLED AND HE DID, THE ABSOLUTE MAD MAN
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>>384719032
It wasn't just him that tanked the comics.
Blame Archie too for being incompetent fucks.

oh and Fulop too because he's the same kind of faggot as Penders
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>>384719159
light path
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>>384707036
>>384707071
Werehog levels are crap. Daytime stages are decent until it becomes sidescrolling, which plays as bad as Sonic 4. So it's like 20% a good game.
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>>384719006
>The crabs and buzzbombers from Green Hill are in Spring Yard. The bombs from Starlight are in Scrap Brain
Yeah, that's what I meant

The pic in question should be updated to reflect that Sonic 1 is the only game of the classics that has cross-zone Badniks. Every other game had zone-exclusive badniks, so the Angel Island Caterkiller Jr. appearing in Chemical Plant for example rules out Angel Island (though it was unarguably ruled out already).

It's nitpicking, but its an important distinction to make, in case we see any more badniks in zones where they don't belong.
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>>384719249
Fuck,what was Fulops shit again
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>>384719328
Same Unleashed guy from the beginning of the thread, I'm actually the legendary 4fag from previous threads so playing like Sonic 4 is totally fine by me.
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>>384719308
But they work pretty damn differently from one another. Hell the Hornet van from Studiopolis is closer to those and even then they're pretty distinct from one another in terms of how they work.
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>>384719193
Hope that dude shows his heinous mug in the SDCC and people go to throw tomatoes at him.
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>>384717789
Weaponized autism. You're doing gods work, anon, well fucking done.

Real talk, if Marble shows up in this game, Maniafied, I will spray my seed
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>>384719032
Eh, we could get it eventually, it's apparently finished after all.

>>384719308
Light path? You mean those rings that bring Sonic from one area to the next without any input from the player or those blue things he can stand on that appear & disappear but doesn't effect his movement directly and never stop reappearing? Either way that's not really similar, the water bottle you stand on and it runs out, it also pushes Sonic forward and he can still move until it's out (and it can't be reused after it's out of water either from what I noticed).
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>>384719604
Well then yeah you'll love the daytime stages.
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>>384719193
>Look him up
>His art is all deviant art level trash and he bitches nonstop about Archie

Was this lawshit shit recent or has he seriously been bitching about this company for years?
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>>384719367
The most important one was Mamoth Mogul, but this all could have been avoided had Archie not decided that selling reprints of pre-reboot issues was a good plan after they fucking knew they had no paperwork.
I can totally see why Sega wanted Archie out of the picture. Best case scenario is that things continue off from where they are with a better publisher, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Thanks anon, I still had to read part 3.
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>>384719803
Thanks for letting me know! Gonna start playing really soon.
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>>384718492
>problem is that the remixes arent even good.
You should fuck off with your shit taste:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG6z9E6_LA8
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>>384705349
What has CWC said about this?
If is not hyped then I'm not.
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>>384714819
Wah!
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>>384719806
It's been years and the comic had to reboot because of it.
Archie lost the documentation in an office fire so he was able to sue for all his OCs and win.
Now he's trying to get knuckles because he's obsessed.
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>>384719806
It happened years ago. He really is that pathetic, and the drama surrounding the lawsuit is the only thing he's got now.
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Easily better than Chaotix, but then it doesn't take much for a game to be better than Chaotix.
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>>384719346
Whoops, i misread what you typed as i didn't see what you were replying to. My bad!
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>>384719967
>Needing approval by someone to enjoy something

???
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>>384718773
Iizuka won't allow it even if they wanted to.
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>>384718654
>>384719346

I'll try to improve it thanks

As far as gimmicks, just like badniks, sonic 1 is the hardest to rule out because everything was more primitive and patterns are less established than the sequels.

There's plenty of other reasons to rule out spring yard though, thankfully. Its only unique badnik is used in mirage saloon. The half pipes were in the original flying battery. The studiopolis train graffiti references it. Other stuff that I couldn't decide is a gimmick, like pressing switches to open doors, that's also in flying battery.

I am confident about labyrinth because that's the only line-and-pulley platforms that look exactly like that.
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>>384720080
Fine! I'ma enjoy this!
And it's gonna be YOUR fault if I have fun!
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>>384719193

Sucks but even when I was a big sonic fan as a kid I knew how gay and bad the comics were.
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Here's another interesting drip. They didn't use PP's log where it should have been.

Which means either aquatic ruin was spared from being cut, or more interestingly, one of mania's new stages absorbed it.
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>>384719725
>webm
fucking nice
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>>384720451
It's a small thing, but I really appreciate the spring they added, it should really help with the flow of that area a little in comparison to the original Palmtree Panic.
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>>384718837
It just seemed like good speculation that the point of mania using classic stages is that they are classic stages. Revived Hidden Palace from 2's remaster is technically new.

>Also only Sonic 1 (out of the classics at least) reused enemies between multiple zones, meaning they should be treated the same way as stage specific gimmicks for Mania.

I'm going to fix that
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>>384720653
Have another, I have like around 100 webms of this game after all, too bad most of them are only in 30fps though.
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>>384720653
gifs should be autobanned filetype on 4chan toobieh
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>>384720946
I'm assuming you're asking what the character options are.
Every character is playable alone, but sonic and tails can be a team if you want.
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>>384720946
As far as we know, yes. I guess there's always a chance there are secret characters but we won't know this until after the game is released.
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>>384719604
Why even ask what you're in for when you have zero standards to begin with?
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>>384719159
Struck me as an improved one of these. It's gizmos that sprays out a path for sonic. Especially because it loops upwards
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>>384721119
>zero standards
He didn't mention like 06 though?
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STOP DOING 24/7 THREADS YOU FUCKS
THERE'S STILL ALMOST A MONTH LEFT
I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT TO COME OUT
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>>384720990

>>384721175
I don't think they should count as the same gimmick, they have similar qualities sure but like >>384719725 says there are differences that I say stand out from the 2.
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>>384718773
youre going to get modern sonic and youre going to fucking love it
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>>384721336
Who's Yellow?
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>>384721313

>>384721232
But I can be hyped in these threads non-stop for another 24 days.
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>>384720413
I liked Sonic the Comic, specifically Super Sonic
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>>384721452
super modern sonic on the left and super classic sonic on the right
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>>384721452
Ray the Flying Squirrel clearly.
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>>384721231
He said he liked Sonic 06: 2D Edition.
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>>384721540
>the britbong comics
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>>384721493
THIS BADNIK IS TOO CUTE AND SAD FOR ME TO KILL

FUUUUUUUUUC
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>>384721594
sonic 06: 2d edition is Sonic Genesis
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>>384721668
They were neat
I liked how Super Sonic's power came with a huge price
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>>384721493
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>>384721493
>literally shaking when its out of orbs around it
brutal
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>>384721752
Nah, it's Sonic """4""".
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>>384721493
What the fuck is that looking up animation
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>>384721836
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>>384721836
>splats
Someone needs to stop Taxman, the absolute madman
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>>384721916
It's cute.
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>>384721934

>>384721916
What do you mean? I think it looks cute.
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>>384722025
The theme for this webm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6TtXKVLYg
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>>384722025
>tippie toes
Fucking manlet
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>>384722171
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>>384722171
We Jet Set Radio now.
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>>384717789
Good Job anon.
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>>384722296
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There is only the Sonic 3 level left to announce
What is it gonna be?
Hydrocity? Ice Cap? Launch Base?

I really hope it will be Hydrocity
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>>384722805
everything's pointing towards hydrocity since latter sonic 3 levels are stuck in licensing hell because of the music
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>>384722805
It's going to be Hydrocity.
Source: my uncle works at SEGA.
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>>384721493
This robot is fucking terrified
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>>384722805
I honestly don't know. It's probably not Angel Island, nobody likes Marble Garden, and it's almost definitely not any of the zones with music issues. So Hydrocity seems like the most obvious choice, and that would also fill the mandatory water level quota.
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>>384722583

>>384722805
It better fucking be Hydrocity Zone or I'll cut my dick off. If that "forbidden 3" thing still holds truth then it seems like it will be the case unless we Angel Island or Marble Garden Zone but I highly doubt they'll pick those 2.
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>>384717789
bery nice
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>>384723135
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>>384722805
Azure Lake.
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>>384722805
I want 2 of the S3 multiplayer stages. Hydrocity gimmicks probably have merged into Labyrinth anyway.
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>>384723264
I can't wait to hear what Studiopolis Act.2 sounds like.
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>>384717789
Question for revision 2

So badniks are unique to a zone outside of Sonic 1, and assuming mania continues the tradition, does anyone think its reasonable to rule out a stage based on the appearance of badniks? Would they turn down a stage they wanted in because another stage they wanted featured the same badnik? I guess you could ask the same question for gimmicks. But it seems like gimmicks are tied to a stage's identity more than badniks. If badniks are missing from a stage or shuffled in mania, it wouldn't be a problem right?

I originally did list badniks when starting the graphic. But it became harder than gimmicks to match up. Some badniks share appearance but not behavior, or behavior but not appearance.
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>>384723090
Chemical plant already fills the water quota.
Not like there couldn't be more of course. Gotta get some milage out of the water shield after all.
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>>384717789
Assuming we double dip, which I'm sure we will

Can it really be Marble Zone? The level RIGHT after Greenhill zone? Same goes with Chemical Plant, the level after that is Aquatic zone, it just seems odd to put the next level of the level we're getting a remix of

by this logic, it has to be sonic 1 double dip is scrap brain [which makes a lot of sense, it is iconic. and sonic 2 will be oil ocean, but done correctly

3 I have no idea whats going on, its 100% hydro and if music gets involved, expect the mp zones

sonic and knuckles, you can remove sandopolis, we won't get sandopolis AND mirage saloon, that'll 100% be sky sanc.

Sonic CD won't double dip.
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>>384723445

>>384723550
Yeah, we'll probably get more water, I mean even Green Hill has a little bit of it.
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>>384723589
Oh man I really hope it's sky sanctuary
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>>384723090
People with taste like Marble Garden.
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>>384723550
>Chemical plant already fills the water quota.
Only act 1, and only partially. Plus not to mention that nearly every stage from Sonic 3 had water in them.
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>>384722805
Chrome Gadget!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LseIASl1Pbk
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I would like to have all the games on one console, the hd christian whitehead versions, I also wish they waited a year when they ported Nights SA/2 and Sonic the Fighters to PS3 and brought it to PS4. they could easily release Mega Collection Plus as a PS2 classic and I'd buy it
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>>384723589
Wait, i didnt really follow.. are we going to have 2 remakes per game?
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>>384723868
With how shields can effect the environment, it'd be pretty cool to see the Electric Shield zap & destroy all enemies in the water or something now that I think about it, it does have that graphical effect of turning all the water white for a split second in 3&K after all..
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>>384713452
I like how the Mushroom Hill lumberjack boss took on a quiet life of gardening.
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>>384723589
If it's Sky Sanctuary it will be the first time Knuckles actually plays through the full level.
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>>384723589
>sonic 2 will be oil ocean, but done correctly
Are you implying Oil Ocean wasn't done correctly to begin with?
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>Green Hill
>Labyrinth
>Chemical Plant
>Mystic Cave
>Ice Cap
>Azure Lake
>Flying Battery
>Stardust Speedway

>Studiopolis
>Mirage Saloon
>Cathedral zone
>Japan-themed zone
>Magic-themed zone
>New final zone

You heard it here first boys
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>>384724248
We have to double dip to hit the 40/60 ratio from Izuka said
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>>384724250

>>384724248
There's no confirmation of it happening, it's pure speculation at this point but it has a lot going for it since it's based on the fact that we're going to get around 60% remixed stages, 40% new stages and it was originally said Mania will be bigger than Generations at the least but eventually said it'll have even more stages than any of the old 2D classic games. Read >>384716683 for more information on the game.
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>>384724572
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>>384724312
Oil Ocean fucking sucked, m8. That's when Sonic 2 fell apart completely and never recovered.
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>>384724752
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>>384724780
It's one of the weaker stages but it's still solid. Bad stages were a CD exclusive.
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>>384724839
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>>384724973
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>>384724931
>Oil Ocean
>Metropolis
>Sky Chase
>Wing Fortress
>Death Egg
>good
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spoiler your fucking pictures/webms
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>>384725125
Glad to see you can't read.
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>>384725243
Glad to see you admit having shit taste.

>>384725209
Why should he? All of this stuff is ancient.
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>>384719725
That CRT filter looks fucking terrible. Why would anyone wanna play with that shit on. It makes the game look objectively worse.
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23 DAYS REMAIN.
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>>384725057

>>384725125
>Wing Fortress
I never understood the dislike with this one, I enjoyed it & didn't see much wrong with it. The closest gripe I had with it was that little boost pad thing that threw you across a big gap but could also screw you over if you were still holding right but beyond that it was fine. Boss was a bit tough though compared to the others but then again it was the third to final one.

>>384725209
Sorry, I don't mind doing it but all of these have been posted for months now without issue.
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>>384724780
Taste this shitty should be banned
Good music, good level graphics, and it didn't have anywhere near the kind of cheap level design that Metropolis exhibited. What's the problem exactly?
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gg no image, fucked it up.

23 DAYS REMAIN.
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>>384725209
If you don't want spoilers why you in this thread?
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>>384723589
I think Marble Garden has a good chance because the level design of that zone always seemed more vertical than horizontal and freshened things up a bit. A lot of act 1 is spent going up or down so with that being the case Marble Garden would fit well in my opinion if they were looking at an exploration focused level.

The only other level I can think of that would take its place would without a doubt be Sky Sanctuary but if we're double dipping and splitting 3 and S&K into 2 separate games then that only makes it more likely that if Hydrocity gets in then Marble Garden will have to be in too.
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23 days and knuckles
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>>384725716
>Marble Garden
We've been OVER this already, it's not getting in.
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Rosy the Rascal is so cute, I wish I had a plushy of her
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Why do people like 3&K so much? Maybe it's superficial but the art direction and music almost kill the game for me (outside of some tracks like Lava Reef Zone), I prefer Sonic 2 and CD even though CD has a reputation for bad level design. It's not bad level design, but every level is basically a huge physics showcase.
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>>384725884
See pic: >>384706080
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I saw this in a sonic level, either classic or mania, before I saw it in this Sonic 2 concept art. But I can't fucking remember where.
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>>384725564

>>384725884
I found that 3&K's level design added bits of everything from each of the previous games from speed, platforming & exploration like >>384706080 says. I also found the mechanics in the game to be some of the funnest yet & the length of each stage felt perfect for me, it wasn't too short like Sonic 2 & it wasn't too long like I notice some say. Art direction wise I thought the areas looked very appealing, not as much my love for CD's art direction but it was still pleasing to me, same goes for the music, also while I prefer Sonic 1, 2 & CD's character sprites I don't dislike 3&K's like a lot of others do. Personally I'm not a big fan of 2, it just never really clicked with me compared to the others (it's still a great game though).
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>>384726271
That one level from Spinball.
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>>384724406
sounds good
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>>384725884
The levels look gorgeous and the level design is the best the series ever had.

Also Lava Reef is the best level from any of the originals.
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>>384721493
WTF? I love orbinauts now.
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>>384726315
>you will never go to club eggnog
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>>384724780
This, I always drop the game after mystic cave if I feel like replaying sonic 2 again
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmtYdEWVzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg
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>>384726315
The next track that Sonic Youtube channel uploads better be the mini-boss theme or boss theme.
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>>384726895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VynDxJWZ698

Me after the Christian Whitehead logo.
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>>384726913
If they upload Eggman's theme I will shed tears just as I did when I first heard it during E3.
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>>384727048
>That shouting like they are watching Iizuka's plane crash when sonic is running backwards

That's when they really knew the pain was over
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>>384726895
And I just realized that it's been exactly one year since the game was announced.
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>>384727048
I sometimes imagine the alternate reality where instead of this trailer, they showed the trailer with the animations, I think people would of lost it even more
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Sonic Mania was announced exactly today last year

announcement is today at SDCC

final trailer is coming, I can feel it.
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Hydrocity is all but confirmed now.

Where you at, Hydrocitybros?
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>>384727820
Hydrocity Act 2 best song in the entire franchise
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>>384727856
I know a lot were shitting on comicfags but I'm happy to see them getting more comics already.
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>>384727856
>Ivo Gerscovich
>Ivo
Eggman manages the Sonic brand?
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>>384727856
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>>384727856
>Ivo Gerscovich, CBO for sonic the hedgehog
>Ivo Gersovich
>IVO
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>>384727048
Every time the ending of that trailer hits with that piano music and that beautiful animation on Classic Sonic it makes me want to actually cry. How could Sega have struck gold so hard with these guys?
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>>384727820
>>384727927
Please let it be true.
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>>384728081
This was pointed out the day his appointment was announced iirc. still a top tier name though
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>>384727991
They still have to wait and see what they will be like, though.
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>>384728429
They can continue with mega drive story I think
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>>384727820
Everybody's a Hydrocity bro at heart

Unless you pronounce it hydross-ity, in which case kys
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>>384726895
>When Christian's name showed up on the trailer.
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>>384727927
Sorry pal, lava reef act 1 boils hydrocity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0N77nI_OI
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>>384706991
a bad game
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>>384728867
Hydrocity Act 2 is running music
Lava Reef Act 1 is adventuring music
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>>384727856
So IDW any good?
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>>384726895
What was it like seeing mania for the first time /v/?

>What are they losing their shit about this time
>What the fuck is sonic mania
>For 25 years he's sucked shit
>BUT NOW WERE GOING BACK
>Oh boy here comes the bait and switch
>In association with literally who
>THIS IS WHERE IT BEGINS
>Its actually sonic
>Hes doing sonic shit
>The title screen is the most perfect thing I've ever seen
>Pull out family albums to make sure I didn't change timelines
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>>384729330
It was the publisher fans wanted the license to go to.
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>>384716349
>>384717358
>sequels that play similarly are romhacks

>Mario Galaxy 2 is a romhack
>Halo 3 is a romhack
>Banjo Tooie is a romhack
>Majora's Mask
>every Call of Duty game is a romhack

Wow, the majority of games I've played in my life are romhacks.
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>>384729530
>>In association with literally who
I'm autistic so I lost my shit as soon as I saw "Christian Whitehead"
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will Mania retain Sonic's iconic gritty realism?
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>>384729530
>>In association with literally who
Go fuck yourself, you fucking cretin.
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>>384724752
>you are now aware the big ring rotation is ambiguous and you can switch its direction by thinking about it
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>>384729769
he assumed it was gona be a literal who dev sega outsourced too but it turned out to be the taxman
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>>384729761
That's Forces:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4
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i JUST GOT TIME OVER'D AT CARNIVAL NIGHT
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>>384729970
>not knowing that shit by that point
My point still stands.
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>>384730040
Yeah, that zone can take a while to get through if you're not used to the layout
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HOW MANY MORE HOURS UNTIL THE PANEL
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Real life songs that could perfectly fit a Sonic world, one we currently know, or one that you've made in your head.

Studiopolis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RTF4OPzf8
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>>384723445
but thats the special stage
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I went nuclear tanking hits and using the instashield to beat the boss in time
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>>384730439
https://comiccon2017.sched.com/event/BQ4E/sonic-mania-behind-the-scenes

>Saturday, July 22 • 7:30pm - 8:30pm
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>>384725125
>>Sky Chase
>>Wing Fortress
>>Death Egg
>>good
Yeah these are pretty damn good. How the fuck does someone even hate a stage like Sky Chase, it's done nothing to you and it was cool.
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>>384723589
>1
I agree. It has to be Scrap Brain, and I want it to be Scrap Brain also because that is the best zone in the game anyways.

>2

I do not think it will be Oil Ocean, because that is an industrial type zone, and Scrap Brain is too. We can't have 2 of the same type/feel. Mystic Cave is the most likely and I want it to be that anyways.

>3
I think Hydrocity is 100% likely too and that is the best water zone in any sonic game, so I really want it too.

I do think that it will double dip, and the level is going to be Ice Cap. This YouTube video i saw a long time ago about Michael Jackson's involvement in Sonic 3 OST proved that it was actually some guy named Brad Buxter with the rights to Ice Cap's music, and the guy who made the video tried contacting him and he actually responded. This makes me think that out of the music related issue levels, Ice Cap is the easiest to try to resolve the issues and that Brad Buxter will be nice enough to give SEGA the rights for it.

>&K
Sky Sanctuary was the one level that wasn't as popular as the other overdone levels (Green Hill and Chemical Plant), but was still overdone. I dont think it is popular enough to be overdone again. I think they will go with Lava Reef, which makes sense because its alot more unique and fun in my opinion.

>CD

I dont think it will double dip either but if it does, it has to be Tidal Tempest, which i wouldnt mind at all.

In fact, if CD double dips, then i think it's likely that 2 could triple dip.

Hear me out on this one.

2 could have a 3rd zone, and it will be Hidden Palace. This would also justify Lava Reef being the 2nd &K level, because in 3&K Lava Reef leads right into the 1 act Hidden Palace. It could be similar to this, but instead Lava Reef will lead into a full remixed version of 2's Hidden Palace
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>>384729819
no you can't, pay attention to the lighting

>>384730660
which zone?
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>>384730631
That's just a gimmick in Studiopolis act 2.
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>>384730721
carnival night playing S3C so that's why you see FBZ partly in the pic, I changed to the pre cart split level placement
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>>384730718
100% agree with the Brad Buxter

Brad Buxter is fare more reasonable then the MJ fucking lawyer house, so many Hydrocity AND icecapzone, which will make this a god tier.
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>>384730701
>it's done nothing
Exactly. It's a boring waste of time.
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>>384729530
>In association with literally who
You are no Sonic fan.
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>>384726271

reminds me of this
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>>384727856
A moment of silence for all the fallen characters that didn't get a chance to shine
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>>384730907
that's why i didn't recognize the background, yeah. i play with the same order but i've only played through s3c a few times so i'm not autistic enough to recognize that yet

what's your emerald count
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>>384731015
They should have been another even harder Metropolis there for you you unpleasable fuck.
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>>384730990
buxter was working under MJ while making the music I feel like his house still has the copyright

>>384731104
why are you being fucking stupid? He was posting out how he think's /v/ probably reacted man
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>>384729667
>>384729769
>>384731104
>You are no Sonic fan.
you couldn't tell at
>For 25 years he's sucked shit
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>>384731176
_one. I'm terrible at all sonic special stages.
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>>384731152
Kinda wish we had a castle level.


But I know they'd just make it too similar to marble zone. And naaaahhhh.
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>>384731184
Cry me a river, faggot. Metropolis sucks complete shit too, by the way.
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>>384731152
See that wood level, in the bottom left?

That will be the new zone for the heavy with the throwing star, ninja/forest level, mark my words.
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>>384706080
>It might be better than 3&K even
Nah.
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>>384731302
practice then
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>>384731320
I'd be more interested in the Moon level. we've had plenty of space levels but they are all space stations and not an actual planet in space (like a moon).

(im referring to specifically the classic games)
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>>384731468
>it's the Heavy Shinobi
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>>384731480
>It might be better than 3&K even
Yeh.
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>>384731468
Didn't they De-confirm Wood Zone really early after announcement?

>>384731538
Well, that image clearly says "Death Egg" and we know that the stage was initially slated to have a longer intro (the music is like a minute long)
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>>384731104
>You are no Sonic fan.
No shit. No way I was getting into that scene with the types of games sonic team was making. I played the genesis games and let it go.
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>>384731468
You dip shit, see: >>384716683
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>>384731320
Castle level, huh? Have you seen -that- picture, anon?
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>>384731302
You'll get better eventually. Best of luck.
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>>384731468
actually, the devs said no more of the new levels will be based off of cut levels from the originals. Mirage Saloon was the only one. I saw a leak a month or 2 saying that:

One of the new levels will be a japanese castle/forest area or something with alot of sakura flowers

another one will be a magic level with stuff popping out of top hats and loops made from playing cards and stuff.

there was more to the leak and i probably got the ones i said a bit wrong too.

someone post the leak if they have it
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>>384731636
i was actually talking about the bottom middle one but i just realized it is an underwater cave, not a moon
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>>384731785
>tfw glad the new desert level they were gonna add in CD remaster got cut because now we got mirage saloon
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>>384731785
>sakura flowers
oh god, if this is how I'm picturing it in my head, that'll be the GOAT level
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>>384731740
Another anon here, but my main issue is actually finding the secret rings. I can do well at the special stages, but I've always had trouble with exploring everywhere to find them
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>>384731975
Yet Final Fever is still dead.
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>>384730006
>realism
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>>384732105
Desert Dazzle
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>>384729530
>spongebob memer
>writes completely asinine bullshit
checks out
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>>384708082
>Daytime levels feel like they're over in a minute
The daytime levels are long as hell and I applaud Sonic Team for having the patience to design so many beautiful environments that barely anyone will see unless they don't use the Boost.
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Still think we're getting the final trailer tomorrow, also in it will revealing the Sonic 3 level. It can't just be a fucking coincidence that the panel is happening on the day it was announced, surely.
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>>384732630
No new level reveal you chuckle head
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>>384732734
No NEW level reveal, but there's a slight chance of a classic level reveal.
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>>384732734
New counts as old levels now? No new hardboiled levels, surely they can show the sonic 3 level
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>>384706145
>I could care less

Stupid fuck, learn your fucking english. Its not even my first language and I know you are full of shit.
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>>384732841
Wanna bet???
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Final trailer discussion

how do we sell them the game?

Show them Icecap and hydrocity, mirage saloon, studiopolis, green hill, battery, boss fight in stardust speedway which is the same version but on fucking steroids, tease a level change cutscene, end it with a coloured animation

search your hearts

there won't be a NEW level revealed, they'll just add to the stuff they've shown before
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>>384733014
and then if they're really ballsy

end it on a amy tease
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>>384706080
Sonic 3 & K is my favorite game of all time. I have little doubt that Mania will be great but it has a mountain to climb. Just keeping my expectations realistic.
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>>384716683
Well, it will be better than sonic 1, 2 an CD confirmed. Mania is competing for the podium together with S3K. It will be either on the same level as or superior. I'm betting on "same level as"
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>>384732734
We've been over this already, Aaron said no other BRAN NEW levels will be spoiled. He also said on this week's stream that there'll be one or two more announcements before the game comes out.
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Why does everyone think we're gonna get a double dip more than levels from every Megadrive game or from the Master System versions of 1 and 2? Diamond Dust from 3D among others really fits the likely Ice Cap-less level roster.
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>>384734865
those are spinoffs
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>>384731468
It will be this. From Sonic 1 concept art.
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>>384734865
>only 1, 2, CD, 3, &K represented
>at least five new stages
>confirmed more remixed stages than new ones
>longer than Generations
>longest classic game ever

You do the math.
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>>384734865
How about zones from the adventure/3D era re-imagined for 2D?
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What controller will you guys be using to play Mania if you're getting it on PC?

Pic related as fuck. It's comfy.
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>>384736439
Keyboard.
It's only a single button and arrow keys to play it so it's not like you really need a controller to play it.
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>>384736439
My keyboard.
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>>384736196
I doubt it, the game's already pretty similar to Generations with the inclusion of GHZ and Chemical Plant. Plus I know Christian Whitehead is a big classicfag (obviously) so I doubt he'd go in that direction.
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>>384736439
My trusty ol' 360 controller
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>>384736570
It's meant to be the Saturn game that never was. A controller isn't needed, but it fits.
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Fuck yes, there's still hope.

http://www.cbr.com/sega-idw-announce-sonic-comics/

Suck it Penders.
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>>384736439
Plain old Xbox 360 controller, i already got used to the strange d-pad, so i'll probably won't have any problems regarding the controls.
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>>384736831
>“We’ve been speaking with beloved Sonic fan-favorite creators and new creators alike"

So Ian Flynn and Tyson Hesse are likely, I hope.
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>>384731480
It doesn't have Marble Garden or Sandopolis, it already blows 3&K out of the water
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>>384737115
wow talk about some shit taste
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wow that new character was so edgy that LP's singer literally had to commit suicide

really gets the noggin jogging...
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>>384737007
Ian's being very coy on his Twitter, I'd be willing to bet money on him returning. He's already worked with IDW on their TMNT comic. ADT too hopefully.
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>>384736897
>that gif
deletos
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>>384737007
Tyson Hesse is a fucking shoe-in (at least for the first few comics), but they might be looking at getting Ian to step down or at least take a back seat.
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>>384737324
>but they might be looking at getting Ian to step down or at least take a back seat.

Source and why?
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>>384729330
They have great adaptations of TMNT, Transformers and Jem and the Holograms.

So it's safe to say that their in safe hands.
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Daily reminder that if you hate Tee's creations that instantly transforms you into a contrarian faggot.
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>>384737445
Every thread?
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>>384737007
Tyson is sure to get in due to having a solid reputation, Ian is a free agent so maybe.
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>>384737445
Thank you tomposter, now the thread can really kick off
>tfw trying the hidden blue sphere stage
FUUCK
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>>384718702
Wheres the next one?
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>>384736439
USB SNES controller if only six buttons are needed to play (most likely will be), 360 or keyboard otherwise.
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>>384737808
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>>384737808
Anon....
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>Finally a comic without that shit Sally
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>>384737808
Currently cancelled because Sega went "FUCK YOU ARCHIE AND YOUR LITTLE PENDERS ISSUES TOO".

But possibly coming out in 2018 because of >>384736831 and because Tyson already did most of the penciling.
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>>384737808
>tfw other issues were going to have a Berserk inspired section
>tfw some issues are even done but they can't be legally released
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>>384738493
>>can't be legally released yet
>>yet

There's a fairly large chance we'll get it back.
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>>384724406
as much as a complete mania azure lake would make me nut we already have green hill and I really would prefer hydro city
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>>384736196
I'd love this, but it'll never happen. Seeing classic versions of Emerald Coast or Dragon Road would be awesome though.
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>>384737324
> but they might be looking at getting Ian to step down or at least take a back seat.
Explain
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When is the reveal?
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1kY0VYftJey
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What's in the hole?
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>20 years of comic history down the drain

they should have just ended it after Penders. It was doomed from the minute he stepped in.
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>>384730006
I just have confirm this
are these devs self aware?
I have seen some tweets and I think they just went all in
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>>384730907
why is it always carnival night and death egg that always suck almost all the time one has?
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>>384740448
death egg has a fucking four-part boss fight, it doesn't count
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>>384740320
It's being written by the same guy who did Sonic 06, so I doubt it. And the Sonic twitter is handled by a westerner, don't think it represents the attitude of the Japanese developers.
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>>384740557
that's kinda what I figured and then spoilered it
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>>384740646
>It's being written by the same guy who did Sonic 06
Where are people getting the source on this? Ken Pontac and Graff are confirmed writing the story again.
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>>384740448
Carnival Night Zone Act 2 is pretty damn big. Barrel shenanigans aside, it will eat up a lot of time if you dick around. Same with Sandopolis Zone Act 2. Those levels are just a bit too big for my liking
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>>384740934
It's ooooold news. Like August 2016 old.

And Pontaff is writing the english script, not the story itself.
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>>384740646
that's what I feared
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>>384740934
Graff is just doing the English script and Pontac hasn't been confirmed to be involved at all.
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>>384732630
Please hydrocity!! I needs it!!
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This image proves that there will be a surfing/boarding level/segment. Maybe even skateboarding ala those classic sonic missions in Generations.
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>>384740205
I like Rosy the Rascal!
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>>384740661
>spoilering a game from 1994
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>>384740934
>>384741087
>>384741198
The only confirmed writer for Forces is Graff. I don't know what 06 writer you are talking about, since the only one who is still on the team is Shun Nakamura, and he's not the writer, he's the producer for Forces.
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>people actually have trouble with Carnival Night Zone
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>>384741401
We Ice Cap now boys
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>>384741518
it's not hard it's just too long if you don't play it every day like an autist
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>>384741626
I don't play it every day and I can get through it sub 4 minutes
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>>384741652
prove it right now fuck boy, post a pic of the start of the level and respond back when you're done with the time
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>>384741518
Yeah you can make it though simply but act 2 is too fucking long. Got up to the last checkpoint at nearly 9:00 last night
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>>384741790
alright fine, I'll post my end times for both acts. I just have to load up my emulator
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>>384741891
I want pics of the level time
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>>384738335
Seems like a waste to cut a character so big even normies know her.
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>>384741962
You'll get sub 4 minutes in act 1 and sub 5 in act 2 and you'll like it
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>>384706080

Sonic 3 is better solo than connected to Sonic & Knuckles.

Sonic & Knuckles is fine either way.

Discuss.
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>>384741973
They know her because of the cartoons.

Sally was always a terrible character. She also suffered from the whole "animal but it has human hair" character design flaw a lot of Archie OCs have.
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>>384736439
>Plain old Xbox 360 controller, i already got used to the strange d-pad

my dude the Xbox d pad is literally the same as the mega drive d pad, which is THE way to play sonic. the fact that not everyone is doing this astounds me
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>>384742270
Just play sonic 3 complete and have the game tailored to your personal preferences.
Unless there's some kind of taxman remake for those games it's the definitive version for sure.
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>>384742270
That doesn't make sense because it was always meant to be one game and it flows better when it's like that
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>>384742359
the xbox truly is the extension of Sega consoles
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>>384742340
Better than blue sonic, orange sonic with tails, red sonic, pink sonic, black sonic etc
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>>384742492
Then how come there's a gargantuan quality drop in the second half?

How come you had to pay for the same game twice?
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>>384742672
>a gargantuan quality drop in the second half

What?
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>>384737383
>>384739405

Flynn's been with them for 6 years or so, and has had mixed reception for most of the time he was there, having lots of really well received arcs and a few pretty poorly received ones. He did the best he could post-penders, but while his writing and script (especially for non-serious or comical arcs) is pretty good his overall narrative and plots are fairly lackluster. Getting some fresh blood is probably what Sega and IDW are looking into for new series after Overdrive is released.

But, personal opinion aside, Flynn's a free agent and does keep his eyes open for new opportunities - he's stated before that while he likes writing for Sonic, he couldn't imagine doing it forever. Couple that with the fact that the new studio is VERY UNLIKELY to match his previous pay-rate (which was decent due to his 6-year tenure) right out of the gate, and it's quite possible that Flynn will only come on in an advisory role rather than a main writer if he comes on at all, and even then he'd likely leave in a year or so.

Tyson on the other hand is extremely new, very talented, is showing no signs of fatigue, is eager to jump on anything Sega, and MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL his pay hasn't seen 6 years worth of raises - I'll be surprised if he even got a single raise, as it's likely he was working per contract rather than as an employee. He's almost certainly already sealed the deal, let alone been in talks with them.

So yeah, expect Flynn for Overdrive, then as an advisor, then to leave, all within a year or so.
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>>384742672
>quality drop in the second half?
There's not
>How come you had to pay for the same game twice
Wow talk about ignorance.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/10/10/how-sonic-the-hedgehog-3-became-two-games-sonic-and-knuckles-lock-on-technology.aspx
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>>384736439
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>>384742562
>orange sonic with tails
?
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>>384742672
What the fuck is this shitpost?
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DATA-DISCS is making the soundtrack open to pre-order in just under 5 hours.

The track list might reveal the final stages that will be in the game.
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>>384742751
We memed Ian into Mega Man (which he hadn't even played before) and then Sonic Boom. Prior to that he took over both Sonic X and the Boom comic. If we cannot meme him into this I would consider it a great personal disappointment.
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>>384742562
>Europe 2017
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>>384716276
It has some glaring signs of being rushed. Whether those are enough to consider it "bad" is up to you
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>>384736439
DS4 since it probably only supports Xinput.
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>>384716832
>That Lost World reference.
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>that fuckboy hasn't posted proof of sub 4 carnival night zones
I win again
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>>384717126
Chaotix (TM) Featuring Knuckles the Echidna Welcome To The Next Level In 32x World isn't a single player game. If you played it that way and think it's bad because of it, it's your own damn fault. When played co-op it is easily one of the best Sonic games, not quite S3&K, but close.
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>>384743287
The notion that not one human being but two could be convinced to play it outside of committing to a ritual of summing the god of shit is laughable.
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>>384736439
xbox hueg s controller with an adapter but I'm gonna ditch it for pic related when it comes out
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>>384743287
Yeah if you NEED to play a game co-op for it to be good then it's not good, especially since it's still only as good as the other person you're playing with.
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>>384743287
>5 acts per zone
>empty as fuck levels

what?
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>>384743287
>my "Chaotix Featuring Knuckles the Echidna Welcome To The Next Level In 32x World" posting is catching on
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>>384743287
Oh sorry for playing a mode that the game itself offers. Go fuck yourself.
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>>384742492

From Yuji Naka:

"It's the same deal with Sonic 3... Sonic 3 is literally half a game. Sega management back then wanted the game out at a certain time and we only had half the stages done, so we had to put the leftovers into Sonic and Knuckles. So when you bought S&K and attached it to Sonic 3, you got the whole of what Sonic 3 was planned to have been."

The zones in S&K are the leftovers. The best zones were used in Sonic 3 first and the game feels more cohesive as a result.

This is why Sonic 3 works better alone. The zones in Sonic & Knuckles do not gel with Sonic 3.
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>>384716349
You say that as if you've played Sonic Mania before anon.
Is their something you wanna tell us?
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>>384742751
Well Ian has already worked with IDW, his Sonic was pretty well received overall like you said and has a major lover for the franchise. I would be very surprised if they didn't try to bring him back in and equally surprised if Ian refused

>>384716276
I was very bored playing it to be honest. Felt like it was just huge levels of empty space
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>>384743460
I can guarantee you even the most incompetent asshole will be better than the single player partner AI.
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>>384743620
>This is why Sonic 3 works better alone
Enjoy being one of like eight people on the planet who feel this way.
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>>384742340
>character design flaw a lot of Archie OCs have
>a lot
>implying not all of them

Nearly every character to come out of Archie as OC was pretty much shit, or got turned into shit along the way.

There's VERY few exceptions.

Off the top of my head, the only NOT-SHIT OC's would be Dr. Finitevus, Shard the Metal Sonic, and possibly Rotor (coincidentally, none were made by Penders). Everyone else is either turned into shit, like Antoine, or were always shit, like Sally.

Snively is awesome, but he's originally from SatAM.

Eggman's bosses are actually all pretty cool, but weren't around long enough to properly judge how they hold up over time.
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>>384743859
Ian already says he's on board. Giy's got to be fucking exhausted though, he's been forced to uncuck Sonic like 5 times already.
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>>384744004
Now I don't know who the fuck this guy is, but he could have easily be the villain of some kind of spinoff game about Knuckles, or hell he could have been the villain of Sonic Adventure instead of water demon protecting magic jewels.
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>>384742916
>El Gran Gordo
Correct me if my spanish sucks (I'm Canadian) but
>The Big Fat
kek
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>>384744004
Big fan of both Scourge and Shadow's Scourge. Very rarely do you get a villain who works both when he's on top of the world and at the bottom of the gutter.
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>>384743934

History will prove you an ass.
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>>384736439
360 controller because of the circular d-pad. Feels like the logical step from Genesis and Saturn
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>>384718773
We can only hope anon
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>>384744096
death the edgehog is pretty cute
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>>384744096
Here's to hoping Chester Bennington the Hedgehog is female.
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>>384744096
Still less edgy than Mephiles the Dark.
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>>384744152
You know how Penders had a fucking fetish for Echidnas but never manages to make them competent or relevant?

Dr. Finitivus is basically a competent and relevant Echidna who's also a villian. He's responsible for Enerjak and a bunch of other shit that caused no end of trouble for Sonic/Knuckles.

He wasn't written COMPLETELY out of the story like all the other Pender's Echidnas, but once the legal shit went down he kinda just hung low for quite a while.
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>>384744347
It's been over 20 years, it's already proven me right.
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>>384743620
This is the dumbest shit I've read all day. They didn't pick and choose levels in terms of quality. They were told they had to ship early so they polished up the first half with the intention of finishing the rest later. Sonic 3 works best as part of the whole, just as S&K does.
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>>384744759
But he is mephiles.
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>>384744316
>Those weird bootleg wisp designs

Not that the Black Arms weren't shit anyway but jeesh way to phone it in
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>>384744951
>Dr. Finitivus is basically a competent and relevant Echidna

Maybe because he wasn't, oh, I don't know, microwaved as a baby?
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>>384744058
Yeah, getting the rug pulled under your feet like that has gotta be exhausting. But starting completely fresh with a new company where that shit shouldn't happen again should help out

>>384744152
Evil echidna scientist who could use rings to warp around
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>>384743620
I'd take Flying Battery and Lava Reef over Marble Garden and Carnival Night any day. Just saying
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>>384744316
Scourge is that one weird case of starting off as shit but then becoming a decent character - I'd say most arcs involving him are too shit to really qualify him as GOOD OC though.

Shadow Scrouge I forgot about, and he's cute/awesome as fuck - so that's 4 decent OC Archie characters.
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>>384705349
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>>384741962
act 1 done, you'll see how fast I get act 2 out of the way
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>>384745251
Does anyone actually read this guy's comics?
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>>384745438
Did you miss The Ride?

You know what this is a great opportunity for? The Ride 2.0
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>>384745384
How many times did that take you :^)
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>>384745568
Oh god the salt is seeping out of my monitor.
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>>384745568
Same as the number of cocks you're gobbling right now
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>>384745251
Thank god?

The only non-regulars that I hope return are Emerl and Nack, and both of those are Sega made.
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>>384745251
Is Ken Penders just being a ginormous cunt about the recent news with the comics?
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>>384745741
>>384745786
not him but it's been almost an hour
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>>384745741
man why would I be mad? He just took awhile to respond so I didn't know what was up
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>>384745881
>>384745885
My controller was messing up.
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>>384745568
Only once cuz that's all your mom needed
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>>384736439
If you're not playing Mania with a Saturn controller, then what the fuck are you doing?
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>>384746017
where did you get yours?
>>
>>384745881
And?

It's not like Carnival Night is the 4th Zone or anything, or like we actually clean our fucking rom folders to make anything easy to find, or that controllers are easy to sync up.
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>>384746017
Saturn is legit the worst console I've ever owned. I own a Wii U by the way.
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>>384746147
Actually scratch that, Xbone is worse.
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>>384746146
>level select
>actual plug and play tier unless you're using a ps3 controller
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>>384746142
Ebay
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Unleashed/4fag from beginning of the thread, jesus christ the framerate is garbage and inconsistent on PS3. I really hope Forces on Switch isn't like this. Werehog is also blech.
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>>384745871
I'm gonna miss some of the shit Ian managed to turn to gold, but I find it hilarious that Penders thinks IDW would EVER go to him after all that nonsense with Archie

>>384745875
He's being a little cheeky
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>>384745568
I did not get a sub 5 like I said I would because act 2 went on longer than I remembered. So you beat me there, but the zone was still fun.
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>>384746337
cool thanks, I'll pick one up. It's a straight up usb one right? not needing an adapter?
New thread where by the way?
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>>384746342
Forces on switch runs at a buttery smooth 15 fps according to people that got their hands on it.
You really should consider getting it for a different platform.
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>>384746220
Yeah, but you don't own an Xbone.

Right, anon?
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>>384746440
Unfortunately I've always been 100% Nintendofag since the seventh generation because they were the cheapest. I've gone too far down the Nintendo hole. Only reason I have a PS3 is because somebody gave it to me for free. My PC is toaster and only runs Generations at 60 fps in 480p, and that's not consistent.
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>>384746342

Just wait until you get to Abadat. Jungle Joyride is a slideshow. People look back at Unleashed fondly for actually having some production value, but the framerate and hitches were unforgivable.

That and mapping the air boost ability to the same button as the homing attack. There's a special place in hell for that person.
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>>384746435
This one is just the straight up USB one. Make sure you get one of the ones that are officially licensed by SEGA though and not some Chinese shit.
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>>384746642
there's officially licensed sega USB saturn controllers?
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>>384746371
Thing is, if Ian managed to turn shit into gold, imagine what he'll be able to do with a clean slate.

>Penders thinks IDW would EVER go to him after all that nonsense with Archie

That was honestly my kek of the month when I first saw the tweet.

Thing is, he IS 100% going to try to sue them when Robotnik shows up, because of the whole "robo-prime" shit.

He'll also try it if an "evil" Sonic ever shows up, but only if it's organic - even he's not retarded enough to think he gets dibs on Metal Sonic.
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>>384746620
I loved the beginning stuff and legitimately thought of a buttery smooth 60 fps experience. Alas, I got quite the opposite. I'm still enjoying the gameplay though, but the framerate is really irking me.

I don't like the homing attack being the boost button either, especially after playing so much Colors and 4.
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>>384746642
I thought they stopped manufacturing those years ago, have they started again? Because I should pick up a spare.
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>>384746581
Not anymore.
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>>384745384
>>384745568
>>384745741
>>384745881
>>384746425
Chill the fuck out, guys.
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>>384746960
Nice, I got fucked over by a few of the springs
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>>384746960
H-how many tries did that take you?
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>>384746989
Same.

>>384747019
A few. I had to keep soft resetting to level select because I missed the starting shortcut, like, four times in a row. First try after that.
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>>384747019
17.
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>>384746803
No, they haven't. That's why they're a lot more expensive. But they're worth it. I managed to find one on ebay for a pretty good price though, I got lucky.
>>
Brush your teeth
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>>384747198
I see. A quick search only turns up chink shit. Got one for cheap like 7 years ago, didn't think much of it or was aware they were supposed to be scarce, otherwise I would have grabbed two.
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>>384746776
Ian did kind of get a clean slate with the reboot. That second lawsuit was just a kick in the nuts and Penders would have to be completely nuts to go for another lawsuit now that the comics have officially changed hands. Can't claim "muh oc's" now fucker
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>>384747469
thanks anon! i'll do it before going to bed, i'm playing sonic 2 s3 edition right now
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>>384747469
Thank you Anon, about to do that.
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>>384747469
Fuck OFF mom!
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>>384747469
m-mommy?
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>>384747469
Ma...ria?
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