Daily Witcher 3 argument thread 2 years and people still get

Good presentation

Bad gameplay

/thread

>>384675796
Yeah, I immediately jumped in this game after finishing W2, and by gahwd.

Fighting anything is a chore, just roll behind the and rape that left click, don't even bother using powerful strikes.

>>384675796
>Bad gameplay

:DDDDD

>>384676326
>This mad that first post is best post

>>384675705
what is OP so mad about

nigger take that shit to reddit

>>384676326

>being this mad because someone on /v/ insults your favorite game

underage b&

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>how good

>that combat
>spend the whole game followign red glowing train
>Skellige
>Bioware tier cutscenes
>less roleplay than FO4
SO. FUCKING. GOOD.
>>384675796
This. Game world is stunning, but it's a chore to play. Combat is trash. Difficulty is non-existent even on memed DM. "Hidden" treasures are a joke. TW3 is a game of quests. You just move from one dialogue to another to entertain yourself, and sadly those are not always that good.
HoS was great, though. B&W is more of the same from vanilla game, but at least production values are on decent level.

>>384675705
I'm going to have to side with the normies on this one, /v/. It's a good. Possibly one of the best games of this generation. Sorry, my fellow /v/ memers. You're wrong this time. :-/

Is it really that good?

I bought the GOTY last Christmas and I still haven't played it

>>384676649
>less roleplay than FO4
But FO4 is trash and Witcher 3 is GOTYAY, amirite, CDrones?

FO4 is bad too, but no one ever acknowledges how piss-poor the actual role-playing in W3 is. It's a storybook.

>>384676737
If you like story-games with bad gameplay and are entertained by pretty visuals and cutscenes instead of compelling, engaging gameplay, then yes, it's the best game ever.

As a game, its incredibly mediocre, or even poor. But since its got such great production value and presentation, people eat it up.

>>384676954
Well shit

I'm a cutscene skipper and couldn't care less about "Storytime", I want a nice juicy game

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>>384676737
Imagine Skyrim with Ubisoft game design and TW1-2 writing. That's TW3. It's good, but not amazing. Combat, shitty exploration and shallow roleplay mechanics with choices that hardly matter most of times really drag it down. Main storyline also shows that the game was really rushed and unfinished. Production values are also pretty mediocre, but DLC content is great. Vanilla TW3 needs an enhanced edition just like first two games. It's very unpolished.

>>384677026
>couldn't care less about "Storytime"

Yeah, stay the fuck out of The Witcher franchise then. You have probably played Souls games to the death?

>>384675796
Install a few mods and gameplay fucking rules
Enhanced targeting is enough on its own, but there's some balancing/loot mods that make it even better

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>>384676954
>best game ever
Cutscenes and dialogues in vanilla game are hardly well-made. Only ones with Ciri and Bloody Baron quest line are good, the rest can be Bioware tier.

>>384675705
no one has a reason to be mad, everyone has access to it
it is just a shit game

>>384677120
Oh my god I just breezed past this thread but people cant like cutscenes or something?

>>384677146
I never saw the issue with this one, though. Easily heads and shoulders above the bioware animation mocking webms

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shoveling feces directly into my face

>>384677120
Not really, Ive diddled around with them but they are kind of ass.

>>384677246
That's because you're biased slavcuck. Anyone knows that scene was horribly executed, just like CDPR's shitty audio team raped Priscilla's song with rough cuts after each line. The game has a truckload of issues, stop acting like it does not.

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>>384677246
this

>>384677297

What the fuck do you want from your RPGames then?

>>384677326
Whoa there, I agree that the scene is badly executed but not badly animated. In the game I found it stilted and awkward, but it's the only bad cutscene in the entire game, and Geralts facial animations are fucking great

>>384675705
Shit game, shit thread

>>384677257
That looks good.

Finished Witcher 3. Thinking about getting dlc. Should I and which one should I get first?

>>384677448
He's a fucking retard and doesn't know what he even wants, let alone what genre to play. Just stop wasting your time.

>>384677448
Actual Role Playing?

A Visual Novel and multiplayer Hack and Slash isn't RPG

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>>384677561
HoS > B&W

And B&W is like a closure to Geralt's journey, so it's best played last.

Bought It two days ago. 20gb patch later, I fucking love it.

>>384677561
Both dlcs are fucking incredible. Anybody who says B&W isn't at least almost as good as hos is a massive pleb.

>>384677448

Witcher 3 is not an RPG lol

>>384677561
heart of stone is a slightly lower recommended level and it's shorter so that

The Witcher 3 is a prime example of what happens when there's a certain existing niche of games, and you make something a bit better than the rest of them and get praised for it like you just came up with cancer cure. It's mediocre in every way, but more mediocre than other open world games out there, so apparently that makes it worth praising to death.
Same situation as Skyrim, basically, previous "10/10 GOAT".

>>384676737
it's very good, witcher 3 more than most very popular games seems to have quite a few dedicated shitposters, pretty weird to see tbqh

Install Ghost Mode instead of being so herpes. It tightens up every gameplay system, the skills, combat, everything

>>384677673

You just said you couldn't care less about "Storytime" and actual role playing games are all about the narrative?

>>384677770

But it is. You assume the role of Geralt. Even fucking Doom is a role playing game. You fuck.

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>>384677752
HoS is the only piece of TW3 content that was finished from start to finish, no cuts. In B&W they forced timeskip on everyone to show off that amazing epic snoozefest that was vampire attack. Because fighting 4 alps in 10 minutes is so fucking fun.

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>>384675705
>tfw i still havent played this game
I normally don't like open world rpg's because it's so easy to get distracted by things, so i end up fucking around instead of doing anything productive.

I have tried to play skyrim, fallout 3, fallout 4, the witcher 2, and the witcher 3 for like 15 minutes. Never finished any of the games above.

Should i /v/ ?

>>384678000

>Even fucking Doom is a role playing game. You fuck.

confirmed for not knowing what RPGs are.
You're retarded.

>>384678021
Is your only criticism of the game that it forced you to wait until night during one quest? Are you fucking retarded?
B&W was the only part of Tw3 to bring the level of player agency in the narrative even close to Tw2 levels

>>384677893
There's that fag that rages about open world games whenever he gets the chance and a couple of retarded teenagers that played the souls games and now think combat in every game should be like that.

>>384678000
Well in that case Euro Truck Simulator 2 is my favorite RPG

>shit combat
>game filled with 1000 useless items to collect and never use
>10 actual npcs
>dating simulator
No thanks

>>384678040
yeah, but just try to contain your autism

>>384678042
>A role-playing game is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making or character development. Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.

>>384678123
It's a truck driver role-playing game, idiot. Do you know the very base of role-playing? If you've ever been a kid, you know what I'm talking about.

Sure. You can't really say that Super Mario 3 is an RPG though.

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why's she so perfect bros

>>384678092
>Are you fucking retarded?
No, you are because you can't read, apparently.

>gives Geralt 3 days to find whats-her-name
>scene ends
>[3 days later]
This was so stupid I actually laughed out loud.

>B&W was the only part of Tw3 to bring the level of player agency in the narrative even close to Tw2 levels
No, that's HoS.

Are you people normally this angry? I feel like you're all those middle aged white guys at the bar who stare angrily at everyone.

>>384678146
I don't think that would be possible.

>>384678191
No he's right. Doom is not an rpg. Playing a role and playing an rpg is two different things. A game has to pretty much follow dnd rules to be considered an rpg.

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>>384678374
>A game has to pretty much follow dnd rules to be considered an rpg.

>>384678291
Things are actually quite tame today.

>>384678291
This is /v/. Enjoy your stay, friend.

>>384678453
No argument I see.

>>384678374
No, I could pretend to be your dad and bang your mom and that would be considered rpg.

I've finished Witcher 2 with roach.
Should i play it again with iorveth or should i jump to 3?

>>384678553
Not an argument.

>>384678494

You want an argument? Here, I've got one for you. Penis.

>>384678589
Name 3 RPGs

>>384678216
Are there fuck mods for Witcher?

>>384678709

Vampire: The Masquerade
Deadlands
Hârn

Why does every Witcher thread have discussions about semantics? Every time

>MY PERSONAL DEFINITION OF A WORD IS IMPORTANT

>>384678797
Yes, those are RPGs.

>>384678835

Because people are fucking idiots.

Try throwing a cabbage on the floor in The Bannered Mare and see how NPC's start beating each other to death over it. That's exactly what we are.

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>>384678780
Yea built into the game

>>384678924
How many mods do you need to install to make that happen

>>384678924

>Try throwing a cabbage on the floor in The Bannered Mare and see how NPC's start beating each other to death over it.

EXCEPT THIS SHIT DOESN'T WORK IN THE WITCHER 3 HENCE IT'S NOT AN RPG ALSO I CAN'T KILL EVERYBODY I WANT TO KILL SO FUCK YOU

>>384678969

None.

>>384678554
Iorveth's path is longer than Roche's and it explains a lot of things
Also Vergen is max comfy

>>384679010
Are you one of those edgy teens that installs the mods that let you kill the kids in Skyrim?

>>384679010
The witcher is linear as fuck but it's combat is dice rolls. It's an rpg

>>384679010

Yeah. I remember being pissed off at first when I noticed I can't kill anyone I want in Oblivion. Then I realised how fucking stupid it was to even care about such a thing in the first place.

>>384679105

You could also say tabletop role-playing games are linear. Sure, there can be some branches, but no one wants that idiot in your group who does the opposite just to piss off the gamemaster.

>>384679246
I mean is the options you have in witcher are fallout 4-tier. You can say yes a different ways that's about it.

>>384675705
Should I play the first two beforehand?

>>384679353
You should've but since this is the future just play w3.

>>384679353
Nah. Even if you go into the game knowing nothing about the story you will be fine. They do a good job explaining the backstory through dialogue options and stuff

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>>384679332
>you can say yes different ways
Except that's wrong

>>384676649
This has been my problem with the game.
Every boss encounter I've ran into, it's been way to easy to bait and punish their attack.

I dunno, I'm just not a fan of this action-style combat when it's done so poorly. I kinda wanted a more RPG-style of a game. Instead of the ability of dodging, you basically had a Chance to dodge, like a dice roll... like an rpg.

>>384679581
You mean like Dungeons and Dragons

Just go play DnD

>>384675796
This. Why people deny it or think it's a bad thing is beyond me.

>>384679640
Anon, I just wanted witcher 3 to have good gameplay ;_;

>>384679663
It implies it has bad combat compared to other open world rpgs which is 100% incorrect.

>>384677146
>Bioware tier
Oh boy, seems like you forgot the ball scene in DA:I

>>384679581

How's Morrowind for you?

>>384679720
Mods exist

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>>384679764

It has good writing, but if you're going to make a game so focused on the story, please don't make it open world, I don't want to go through all that shitty world doing boring open world stuff just to get to the story.

>>384680113
>please don't make it open world

Exactly my thoughts.

>>384680113
I legit though is was a great open world until I played BotW
Still better than Skyrim, where the largest city was the size of a small castle. Now compare that to Novigrad

>>384680113
This. Open world is always a mess anyway, but it takes the flow out of the story.
Witcher 2 was way more playable because of it.

At least Witcher 3 is the only open world game where side quests are actually fleshed out and worth doing for the stories/characters.

I don't get the bad gameplay meme. The core that's there is fantastic. There's a lot of strategy and patience involved, and you have to find your rhythm with every enemy/boss.

>>384680380
> the only open world game where side quests are actually fleshed out and worth doing
Then its not a mess now is it?
I thought it was lame it was open world since skyrim was ass and I just wanted more of Witcher 2, but then it came out and it was amazing. So why continue shitting on the open world?

>>384680548
Just shitposters that don't understand nuance. To them everything is either complete shit or gotyay.

Witcher 3's gameplay isn't great, but I'd say it's good enough and it's certainly miles better than Witcher 2.

>>384680817
people are too autistic to stop going to the question marks that are clearly treasure or smuggler shit if they don't enjoy them

>>384680548
It's shit because it's not Dark Souls

>>384680972
I cant really tell are people actually annoyed by the amount of ? marks or are they just falseflag shitposters.
I just turned them off.

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>>384680817
They're the same idiots that think BotW has Ubisoft towers, basically idiots who never played the games

>>384680113
Open world in TW3 works well. If you wander aimlessly you'll encounter many side quests, little details and lots of effort put into making it alive.

>>384681064
I'm sure the argument would be that they're turned on by default so it's intentional so that makes it bad or some dumb shit

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>>384680817
>read noticeboard, read notice
>talk to notice poster, get told about monster
>go to mutilated corpse
>use batman senses to follow the track of footprints/smell/blood
>kill a miniboss
>""""""side quests are actually fleshed out""""""

>>384681112
>if you do this boring thing, you'll find other boring things to do

Really sold me on this.

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>>384681473
>reduce everything to some basic greentext jot notes to make it look bad
>post it with some shitty maymay reaction image
>"durr it's shit guise"

>>384675796
/thread yourself

>>384681473
here's a more accurate description:
>read noticeboard
>talk to notice poster, get told about monster and some story about it
>accept contract, proceed to area described by the guy
>some twist happens either before or after I kill the monster that reveals the guy wasn't telling me the entire truth
>you now go back deciding what to do or continue investigating, depending on the quest itself

>>384681574
Sauce

>>384681574
it's not reduced. every single fucking contract is "boo fucking hoo my friend/family member got brutally eviscerated by a giant X, bring me its head"
>>384681685
see above. what you described is the exception, not the rule

>>384681841
Energy Kyo-ka

>>384681863
>every single fucking contract is "boo fucking hoo my friend/family member got brutally eviscerated by a giant X, bring me its head"
Wow, it's almost like Geralt is a monster hunter for hire or something

>>384681863
why would a stranger take out a contract and pay a witcher a shit load of money over a guy he doesn't know dying?

>>384681863
No it isn't.
The rule is
>read noticeboard
>talk to notice poster, get told about monster and some story
>accept contract
>something that isn't a twist happens, you have to go back to the dude to investigate further
>you find a completely new story about the monster's life before he became cursed
>deal with it
>get paid
I have 300 hours in TW3, I'd know.

>>384675705
i didn't really like it much

>>384681937
>>384681965
nice goalpost moving faggots, this is about side quests being fleshed out and now you're saying basic and shallow fucking killquests are okay because it's lore friendly?

>>384681985
i'm sorry you were cursed to spend 300 hours doing the same contract about the werewolf lover over and over again but that is not what happens in the rest of the game, any contract that doesn't involve a sentient monster is a simple kill quest

>>384682192
They are fleshed out, but you're too autistic to notice

>>384682192
we're clearly talking about contracts mongo, complaining that contracts are only about friends or family dying is pretty autistic even if it was true

>>384682192
>any contract that doesn't involve a sentient monster is a simple kill quest
really? Because I remember very well that contract on some noonwraith (Jenny O' The Woods) where you find out, after further investigation during the quest itself, that she was murdered by some guy who felt betrayed and he killed himself after IIRC.
And last time I checked, noonwraiths aren't sentient.

So no, you're fucking wrong, so shut the fuck up. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>384682335
that's because non-contract side quests manage to be even blander than contracts
>durr go punch the shit out of 3 guys then one last guy

>>384679353
1 has some good story if you can get past the outdated and clunky combat

2 is all around pretty good, short but much more polished, the story isn't that essential to 3 though

alternatively, read the first 2 books and watch a summary on youtube of 1

or you can just go in blind ofc, but you won't feel emotionally attached to the characters

>>384679332
But that's wrong. In FO4 you can: say yes, say yes in a snarky manner, ask for more money or say no. In TW3 you can say yes, ask money or say no. So technically TW3 has even less options than FO4.

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>Absolute freedom
>an open sandbox of fun systems and mechanics to mess around with
>only limited by your imagination and creativity
The Witcher 3
>barely any freedom
>nothing but half-assed systems
>heavily relies on objective markers, goal lists, and minimap to handhold the player through the game
>gameplay dragged down because plot (in a fucking open world game)
>can barely interact with or use the various items you find in the world (can't even use the rope ladder to climb shit)
>can't kill civilians
>can't experiment with crafting unless you have scripted recipe
>barely any emergent gameplay whatsoever
yeah TW3 is shit open world game,

>>384682967
>one good game
>2 shit games
What did he mean by this?

>>384682967
In which of those games can you kill children?

>>384682967
Witcher 3s open world doesn't serve the same purpose as those sandbox games you dumbass

It's so that the whole world feels cohesive as you travel through it completing quests. It's just the same design philosophy as Tw2 but on a larger scale. You're not supposed to have fun running through the forest from hours cutting up monsters.

>>384683698
>Witcher 3s open world doesn't serve the same purpose as those sandbox games you dumbass

if it claims to be open world then i expect freedom and i expect a lot of interacting systems and mechanics not just scripted set pieces, if you can't provide that, then make a linear game like the casual you are.

>>384682967
Witcher 3 DLC:
HoS
>Best story in whole franchise
>expanded map
>new sidequests
>unique items with unique effects to get
>two endings
>new mechanic that enchants your equipment with unique effects
BaW
>new UI
>new map
>30-40 hours of content
>alright story
>best exploration and sidequests in W3
>even trash stuff have meaning now, be it for Wine Wars, Lebioda statue or forts that have cutscenes and people you can talk to
>new endgame mechanics
>3 different endings
>your own house
BotW DLC
>shitty Hard Mode which is just higher rank/spongy enemies
Take in mind that BotW DLC costs 20$ meanwhile BaW costs also 20$ and HoS costs 15$

Really makes you think.

>>384684114
>a lot of interacting systems and mechanics
So which game that isn't BotW actually does that?

>>384684114
>all open worlds need to be sandboxes because I said so

>>384684195
You can get W3 goty edition for 50€ and prob 50% discount during sale while nintendo never goes on sale.

>>384684229
This desu.
Also BotW was specifically made for that reason. To have fun mechanics and interactions between them to create gameplay.
Everything else is mediocre, VA sucks, collecting tree poo sucks, story sucks, quests are MMO tier.
BotW is basically a tech demo for real Zelda in the future. Don't know why people jizz over it so much.

>>384684195
But the Zelda dlc isn't all out yet. The $20 gets you the hard mode, master trials, AND the upcoming story dlc.
The Witcher dlc is still a far better deal but don't lie

>>384684195
lol dlc doesn't matter when the game has shit-tier gameplay, i'd rather play vanilla BotW than TW3 and all of it's expansions.

>>384684195
Kek I bout bothe Witcher DLCs for like $15 US

Apparently the BotW dev team were fans of the Witcher 3 and took inspiration from it, I just wished that applies to DLC and voice acting/general character quality
CDPR are also fans of BotW, hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will have a physics system more complex like it

>>384684461
What kind of gpu did you play w3 on btw?

>>384684445
>BotW is basically a tech demo for real Zelda in the future. Don't know why people jizz over it so much.

This.

The next one will be truly amazing if they execute it properly.

>>384684342
they all do. BotW isn't the first game to invent systems-driven gameplay.

>>384684445
Because it's a refreshing change from the other shit we've been getting. Hopefully they reuse the engine and improve everything else in a sequel

>>384684556
it was GTX770, what does that have to do with anything?

>>384678554
Iorveth's path is far better, but there's absolutely no point in playing it, because they made Roche's path canon and essentially ignore everything that happens in Iorveth's path (he's not even in TW3). They even killed Saskia off in a fucking comic book.

>>384684461
I played both, where one excels in the other fails and vice versa

>>384684195
>BaW
>>new UI
what?

>>384684584
They don't though, just because you say so

>>384684702
oh nevermind you're talking about the changes to the UI in the inventory screen, I thought you were saying it implemented a whole new UI, which I couldn't remember them doing.

>>384684702
Yeah, the original interface kind of sucked

>>384684527
What's in DLCs is decided mostly by publisher team so devs have nothing to say about it i think. And everyone knows that main Japanese execs of Nintendo are pieces of shit.
Well of course they like the Witcher 3. BotW plays just like W3 but it's way more polished with gameplay mechanics and it's more tight in design.
Take in mind though that it was 2 fucking years of difference, also:
Witcher 3 had to sell so it had a lot of marketing elements like open meme world etc. Also it was first time in history CDPR ever did anything with open world meanwhile Zelda has a long history of being focused on exploration etc. They have experience CDPR did not have.
I have a lot of shit to say about W3 and i hate many thing it does, but for their first open world game, which had terrible development process and insane scale compared to previous two games, it was incredible.

>>384684662
Hardware affects my ability to enjoy games, so I assume it does the same for other other people.
770 is bordering on playable

>>384684195
>Best story in whole franchise
Dude. Faust. LMAO.

>>384684821
It's also only their 3rd game ever, and the first one to find mass market success. The insane improvements they've made between games while keeping good consumer practices is commendable

>>384684932
It's not Faust. It's based on polish legend about Mr. Twardowski.
And show me a fully original new story that does not take inspirations from legends/books/fiction after 2000. I'll wait.

>>384684823
You can pick up an OG Titan for like $200 an it's comparable to a 980 at least if you're really autistic about >muh graffix

>>384684974
They've suffered a lot from their publisher decisions in the past, which then made them have more control over their own games.
I guess you need to suffer to become great.

>>384685101
CD Projekt CEO is based as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4KnQF8Xwa0
In one interview he said that they will never allow for takeover. After failed console port of W1 for PS3, they tried to find someone who would help them financially but no one wanted to and they had to figure out stuff by themselves. Only later, when they became successful, everyone wanted to get them.

>>384685039
No, it's literally based on Faust, just like Pan Twardowski. Polacks stole the idea as usual.
>And show me a fully original new story that does not take inspirations from legends/books/fiction after 2000
NieR.

>>384685319
>>384684932
>>384685039
Both Pan Twardowski and Faust are based on the same German legend you dumb niggers

If I like TES would I like this?

>>384678780
You can actually fuck her in the game.

>>384685319

>nier

There are hundreds of stories about fathers or siblings trying to save their families from monsters.

Just because they throw retarded anime bullshit that makes no sense in doesn't make it original.

>>384685669
At launch a lot of people complained about W3 not being a direct sequel to Skyrim so maybe not.

>>384685689
>There are hundreds of stories about fathers or siblings trying to save their families from monsters.
So you don't even know what the game is about and only its premise? Amazing. HoS is not similar in premise, it IS Faust, down to resolution.

>dumb slavcuck talks about stories in post 2000s games when he haven't played best story driven games of 2000s
Go back to drawing swastikas on tombstones of soviet soldiers who died trying to free your shithole of a country.

>>384685910
>durr it's faust
You say that like it's a bad thing

Guess the Lion King sucks too because it's just Hamlet

>>384685910
>soviet soldiers who died trying to free your shithole of a country
shitty bait dude

>>384685887
I wouldn't mind it being different, just isn't comparable or dose it have elements of TES. Skyrim was a boat of problems so not taking after it directly is a good thing.

>>384686108
Try not to trip backtracking so much.

>>384686187
>Skyrim was a boat of problems
Normies don't think that despite shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEeK-DIq6GU

>>384686272
>implying I'm the same person you're sperging out on

>>384677584
Salt

>>384675796
Hahahaha

>>384680548
>>384680936
>>384681015
You're all either bait or really fucking bad at video games.

>>384684823
i have a 660 and i am above 60fps most of the time at medium ( of course it's not 1080p)

>>384687216
not an argument

>>384687339
>of course it's not 1080p
I bet you watch 480p anime too.

>>384675705
LMAO it's a meme game

>>384687595
>watching anime

>>384688270
>not watching anime on an anime website