Refute this >b-but weeb not an argument

>>384663242
Management

The games on the right make more money and that's what matters. They don't waste time improving anything because they know people will buy it anyway, and they do.

Western videogame culture died five years ago. We are staring at its corpse. No creativity, no talent, no noteworthy directors, artists, programmers or composers. Just routine. MGS4's warning rings clear

>>384663397
>muh money
>muh dick
not an argument as I said. We are talking about quality
50 million dollars budget and 3 years in production is worse than a game made by 20 japs in 12 months

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>>384663242
Yeah you cherrypicked by picking the worst possible choices on one side and the best possible on the other

>>384663540
Movies are not games.

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>>384663429
>died five years ago
2008

>>384663480
>quality is worse
Irrelevant.

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>>384663242
OP status:BTFO

>>384663565
Not an argument :^)

>>384663587
No, the quality in games clearly changed once GamerGate became a thing.

>>384663540
that's one decent girl IN THE ENTIRE GAME
and they had 3+ years to make Uncharted 4
Plus it's very linear and very scripted. No excuse. Hiring 3D artist to make less than a dozen character models in 3 years is laughable

>>384663731
This.

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>>384663242

>>384663762
I can't even tell what the left game is.
Must be a very memorable game.

>>384663709
Ubisoft E3 demos look better than that
Is that it? that's the best thing you have to show?

>>384663736
We're not talking about girls you dumb cunt

Left looks like porcelain dools, sculpted by soulless machines
Right looks like real life, vibrant and diverse and looks like just real human beings

>>384663762
>left: 300 dev team develop a character in a scripted, linear and 2 hour game
>right: action game with 7 endings and many different kinds of combat

>>384663242
Show me a development team pumping out 20 games in a year and I'll show you 20 shit games. Just because the games come from the same publisher, it doesn't mean they're made by the same developers.

>>384663849
>Left looks like porcelain dools
you mean dolls paco
>right is vibrant
Don't even know if this bait or not at this point.
/v/ became literally worse than neogaf and reddit combined
Worst board in 4chan

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>>384663860
>2 hour game
>BF4

>>384664136
>he took 4 hours to beat BF4 shit campaign
>Dog pic
back to neogaf

>tfw you get btfo and have no good argument or comeback so you just tell them to go to le reddit and neogaf

works every time lads

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>>384663716

>>384663242
/v/ unanimously hates every single game related to the left
nobody likes that rehash shit

>>384663731
>>384663752
No
The only thing thats changed is now even more cunts are pushing agendas the games are still just as shitty and most people have no clue about the gamergate boogeyman

>>384664136
>Playing BF4 for the campaign
You're one hell of a retard, you know that weeb?

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>>384664330

>>384663242
Watch_Dogs 2 was a high quality game. You getting mad because one of the villain's was a dyke doesn't make it bad.

i want to try dick for the first time

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>>384664436
>Watch_Dogs 2

>>384664369
>playing multiplayer

>>384664395
>unironically admitting you like warriors games
You've already lost any argument you could possibly make.

>>384664436
>Watch_Dogs 2
>high quality game
pick one

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>>384663242

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>>384663809
>>384663815
>>384663860
>weebfags totally annihilated

lmao

>>384664521
>he didn't play Spirit of Sanada
>he thinks Dynasty Warriors 8 was bad
Screencap your steam library or confirmed for another western Dota 2 white trash

>>384664621
Now how do those games play anon?

You chose games with shitty gameplay for both sides.

>>384663540
>the best possible on the other
Since when was DW consider the best of anything on /v/? It's usually 'Wah I hate musou game, therefore you should hat them too.'

>>384664627
>Warriors shit
>fucking ever

>>384664621
the irony is that the worst looking in the left (Zelda) is more polished and finished than the alpha builds you buy for 59,99+tax using your (((steam wallet)))

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>>384664706

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>>384664696

8th gen

Japs:
>Bloodborne
>Persona 5
>Nier: Automata
>BOTW
>Nioh
>Gravity Rush 2
>The Last Guardian

West:
>The Witcher 3
>Uncharted 4
>Horizon
>Doom

Gee, it sure is a tough choice

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>>384664706
>Zelda is more polished than Battlefront or UC4
is that why Zelda can only keep stable 30fps on PC? lmao

>>384664674
Well I know in Persona 5 you press X to watch your character hit things. Also I love how you change your argument when you get btfo

why are there so many western console warriors on /v/ since early this year?
What happened?

>>384664693
>'Wah I hate musou game, therefore you should hat them too.'
Because they're objectively shit. 100 games a year of 1 button, no depth, braindead button mashing.

>>384664953
>Because they're objectively shit.
screencap your steam library

>>384664809
>Nier Automata
>Nioh
>Gravity Rush
>The Last Guardian

Hell I like these games and even I think this is desperate

>>384664901
>implying that anyone would enjoy any of those games when playing it

You are supposed to have games with good gameplay one side and ones with good graphics on the other.

>>384664993
>Nioh
>Gravity Rush
>Nier
>not great games
Found the nihilistic redditor trying to fit in

>>384663762
But why would anyone play Cryshit over Nier?

>>384665098
>asking steam retards why they prefer shooters

>>384665091
They're good games at best. Except for Nier, nobody would give a shit about that game if the people who play it didn't wank over 2B

Also, calling everyone who doesn't agree with you a redditor is literally not an argument

>>384665204
>still trying to fit in

>>384665180
Yeah, you show them, champ!

>meanwhile anon plays weeb warriors 39 XXXXXXXL
>square square square square square square square square square

>>384665236
No if I wanted to “fit in” I would repeat “2B a cute, CUTE!” over and over again

>>384665204
I guess everyone who played the first nier wank over papa nier too according to redditors

These threads end the same way where both sides bait each other with strawmen for no reason other to get a reaction.

>>384663242
Because:

Japanese work culture
>work 80 hour weeks
>forced unpaid overtime
>complain = get fired
>unions are a joke with no power
>sleep in your office
>get shamed in front of staff by management if you underperform
>the customers enjoyment is considered

American work culture
>got hired because of diversity not skill
>the quality of the product doesn't matter as long as we make bank
>who cares about a quality finished product we'll fix it later
>stupid hype train idiots will buy our product anyway so why try
>the second work becomes slightly uncomfortable complain to the union and cause big financial hit to the company

Japanese devs:
>hey lets make a game the fans will enjoy

American devs:
>lets make lots of money, if the game just happens to be fun, fine, whatever

Nioh took about ten god damn years to come to fruition you god damn fucking moron.

>>384663242
What's the game on the left? Looks neat.

>>384663242
Left: tries to make it look like cartoons (anime). That's waaay too easy. And japanese can't fucking act and show any human emotions.

Right: tries to make it look realistic as fuck. Making it difficult to capture all human emotions in a computer.

>>384665329
>western console warriors invade threads and spam shooter shit
WOWWWWWWWW NEWS AT 11
>>384665376
Delete this. You are saying things that are forbidden here. You are LITERALLY A WEEB YOU ARE LITERALLY A JAP SHIT GARBAGE GAMER !

>>384665376
>Japanese devs: hey lets make a game the fans will enjoy

more like:
>heyu sasuke-kun whats the cheapestu way to make a game?
>turn-based combat and ps2 graphics of course!

>>384665386
Excuse me we don't accept facts here

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>>384665425
>tries to make it look like cartoons

>>384663242
Left spends all their money on models with no animation and leaves the world as empty boxes.
Right spends their money on massive worlds with little left over for models which is then spent and spreax on large amounts of animation

>>384663242
the vision has to match the budget

>>384665376
You seriously think that american dev have it easy?

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>>384665521
>japan spends all their money on models
>west doesnt have much money left over for models
lmao

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Memewatch budget: 45 million, 4 years to develop and 20+ million in marketing.

Unique (Good) Art Style > Realistic Art style > Unique (Bad) Art Style

>>384664621
why is it that every uncharted 4 pic ive seen on /v/ is from a cutscene or from the screenshot mode?

>>384664621
Barring FF15 those games on the left are a lot more fun than the right though.

>>384665514
That's whats amazing of the west it can do realistic human emotions and cartoonish emotions.

The asians can't

>>384665640
nice opinion

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Star Wars Battlefront budget: ~50 million

>>384665584
That's gear. The spend their money on everything that isn't human models*

The weapon porn in western games shits on anything Japs bring.

>>384665639
>pic
>screenshot

.......

>>384665662
>realistic human emotion
https://youtu.be/7KWkao73HuU

>>384663397
Which is funny because if it looked like the game on the left they could sell even more copies to graphics whores. You literally have no defense.

>>384663242
>west
>creating super realistic graphics for over a decade now
>east, the massive animeland has only 2 studios that can actually replicate animegraphics

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>>384665639
Here you go

>>384664621
only uncharted isn't shit though.

you put lipstick on a pig...

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Deadpool budget: 100 million (that includes marketing + develop cost)

>>384665704
nope, they arent
even the photogammetried RE7 looks worse than non-photogrammetried Western models

japan cant do graphics, you cant even give an example lol

>>384665640
I wouldn't call P5 fun. It's of a wish fulfilment sin that doesn't work if you had a fun high school experience

>>384665386
Nah it was in actual development maybe 3 years at most.

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Rift budget: around 60 million dollars(including marketing)

>>384663242
Who's the asian in blue bottom left?

>>384665204
>>384664993
Nier is a great game, regardless of Twitchfags making dumb 2B jokes. It's a breath of fresh air in which cutscenes replace player/world interaction constantly.

GR2 has one of the most interesting artstyles, atmospheres, and sountrack of the last 10 years, at the very least. It's also fun

Nioh is very solid and very fun game.

TLG might be divisive as shit, but I personally thought it was great despite its flaws.

>>384665597
>>384665698
>>384665829
>>384665916

That's it. The evidence is there. Only bad-willed western warriors can ignore the evidence and say that the west make good games with good graphics
Other than Naughy Dog and other cinematic garbage the west makes Indian tier games.

>>384665672
I mean it's true. BF1 and the Tom Clancy games are all style no substance. Uncharted is just a cover shooter climey game that everyone just plays for the movie bits

>>384665754
Wow one game that was intentionally sabotage. Sure showed me, that totally negates all the achievements of Injustice 2, TLOU, and Infamous Second Son.

>>384665992
not really, 3 button smasher and 1 turnbased button presser
east cant even compete

>>384666012
What achievements? Studios trying to distance themselves from that silly gameplay malarky?

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>>384665846
Potato

>>384666054
You're being silly now

>>384666012
>TLOU
Nice, i like watching movies too

>>384663587
I don't think vidya was around in 9 AD, anon

>Japan
>white worshipping garbage
>everyone looks like an anime faced character with palette swap

>Other devs
>actual diversity in storytelling and character
>doesn't shy away from grimey realistic settings

>>384665976
counterpoint: if you go far enough west you end up in japan

>>384666054
uncharted as much movie shit it is it's 100x better than Ubisoft or Battlefield
Unless you are one of those 16 year old californian pc gamers

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>>384663242
.

>>384664901
>Well I know in Persona 5 you press X to watch your character hit things.
And yet that still qualifies more as gameplay than the West's cinematic PRESS A BUTTON -> SOMETHING AWESOME HAPPENS watch a cutscene and press x every 3 minutes bullshit.

:^)

>>384666105
Animation

Also all of those games are more game play orientated than shit like FF or Persona. TLOU has an arcade survival style MP mode, Infamous is a sandbox first and foremost, and Injustice 2 is a fucking arcade fighting game.

You are just spouting shit hoping it sticks. Meanwhile in Persona 5 you can go hours without doing anything bit reading or watching a linear story and walking down a rigid path.

>>384665754
Why is it that these games get singled out all the time, yet all the weeb shit blank expressionless faces get a free pass and Mass Effect sells millions anyway?

>>384666247
Aloy is not degenerate therefore she shouldn't be considered western games

>>384663731
>>384663752
Youd have to be born post 2000 to actually believe this. 2007 was when everything started to fuck up. 2008 was its push over the edge.

>>384663242
You have done this shit nearly everyday does it ever get old op

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>>384663716
N O T A N A R G U M E N T

>>384663242
>muh graphics
>muh story
>muh fan service

"let's just cherrypick examples" said OP, and a shit thread was made.

But in all seriousness, Gook shit can look samey when it's rushed out. You need only look at games like Dynasty / Samurai Warriors to see same models, textures, faces and animations carried over from game to game.

Western studios do it too, its just we only tend to see shitty western games, what with living here. I imagine there's even more untranslated trash in Japan that will never get ported over, and for good reasons.

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>>384664436
>Watch_Dogs 2 was a high quality game

>>384666435
>You need only look at games like Dynasty / Samurai Warriors to see same models, textures, faces and animations carried over from game to game.
Literally reusing the same PS2 assets for over 10 years now.

>>384666191
> Diverse
> We changed the main character models skin tone from white to black and added a few lines of dialog calling him slurs

Ye real cool anon

>>384666163
You do if you enjoy any eastern rpgs.

>>384663709
Mass Effect Andromeda is more fun than this shitfest.

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ITT: CULTURAL MARXISTS IN SELF-DENIAL

>East vs West cuckery
>Not enjoying both

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>devs spend their entire budget on female bone structure.
>if a game doesn't give me a boner its bad


d'ohkay

>>384664473
>>384664592
>>384666459
>I haven't played it and it's ubisoft so it's bad
You did it reddit!

>>384666528
Even VNs have more gameplay than tlou uncharted crap. At least you still have to click through dialogues

>>384666809
This is bait.

Please don't respond.

>>384666775
>someone doesn't like my shitty game
>therefore they haven't played the game
Nice argument reddit

>>384666775
>>384666809
3/10 bait

>>384666880
>I didn't posted any argument but it's shit and you like it because it's shit!
Sure buddy

>>384666880
>>384666905
I hope there's some people not that retarded to hate everything and jerk off to their even shittier games like VNs or something

>>384666947
>The watch___dogs 2 fag is still arguing
pathetic

>>384667020
>still haven't posted any argument and "arguing"
You really did it reddit

>>384663242
No one can name one game on the left.

>>384664872
Who the fuck cares about frame rates. They game plays better.

>>384667125

Pity about the lack of dungeons and shitty bosses.

>>384666692
This. We live in an age where there are too many games and not enough time. We are blessed with an embarrassment of riches and should be celebrating, not trying to see who can out-cynic each other on a Tibetan rug weaving forum.

>>384664621
All the games on the left look interesting, distinct and varied.

Everything on the right looks like a screensaver.

>>384667497
You do know that all of them "varied" are just musous and Ni-Oh? ;^)

Most games released by Western devs have had forced diversity pandering and are usually boring and shitty.

>>384667586
Look at his post again, smug brainlet

>>384665310
Im not even sure if quarter of nier automata players know about that older nier with viking geralt

>>384663242
How are the DLC for Nioh?
Is it worth getting the season pass?
I liked the base game quite a bit, but it really lacked variety.

>>384663242
Jap games are clunky as fuck and their graphics and menus look like they belong on the ps2

You can't compare them with western triple A games you silly weebs

>>384663242
I mean, pandering etc or whatever, but the fat girl and the black one look on point for what they are.
And the emoticon guy was funny.

>>384663636
Much like you and your comment.

>>384667586
>Zelda, Nier, FF, Persona
>'musous'

>>384664706
AHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>384667682
>>384668102
I'm sleepy and thought it's OP post, fuck off

>>384663815
Yeah we all know that you've been here for 2 months and watched the crowbcat video, but Wildlands is one of the few cases where it's not been downgraded and was arguably upgraded, even when we compare the PS4 version. When it comes to PC it's much better.

>>384664621
>that font on Persona 5

I don't know why personafag keep claiming their UI is stylish when it look like it was done on meth by a victim of cripling ADHD.

"Not an argument" is not an argument.

>>384666775
I played it.
It's average, a solid 5/10.

>>384663636
but its not quality
even though im replying to a bait post im still gonna explain whats shit about most games released by big western studios
most of them have little to no interaction with anything and dont introduce new things and are only made to trick people out of their money with flashy graphics and the illusion of doing anything at all

>>384663242
Japan makes really good character models but the lighting and textures and environment graphics in general usually aren't up to par with the west. And it's the opposite for western games.

>>384666359
This 2007 is when old Blizzard died and western gaming

>>384669297
Maybe that's a good thing considering the West uses lighting systems to make everything glow like the sun

>>384666775
you're literally alone here