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Why is modern vidya so big?

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Why is modern vidya so big? Hollow Knight, a fun indie game with sprite-based graphics, is over 8GB. And the PC remasters of Final Fantasy X+X2 are over 37GB, which is over 3x the size of the PS2 originals (1 DVD disc each, so at most they'd be less than 10GB - and they probably didn't fill the disc). Meanwhile, FFIV 3D is 777 MB, which is neat - but the DS original is 10% of this! And FFVI on PC is almost 1 GB, when the original game is the size of a MP3! It's madness. Not trying to complain, just wondering how it got like this.
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>>384645610
shut up
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>>384645610
advances in tech make it possible for huge storage capabilities. devs therefore aren't stressed to make their games fit in such constraints, so they don't. plain and simple.
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>>384645610
With the standard being 50GB thanks to Bluray, nobody is bothering to compress textures, audio or pre-rendered video anymore. It's been this way since the FMV era of CDs. Bloat up all that empty space with "stuff".
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>>384645787
whens the last time an aaa game had prerendered video
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>>384645610
I only clicked this thread because that Rikku
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>>384645917
same desu
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>>384645917
This
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>>384645897
A lot of them use pre-rendered videos for loading screens. Like Call of Duty.
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>>384645610

Audio files were the main reason game sizes shot up a ton, but now the other assets have caught up in size. Games files are no longer being compressed so the sizes are increasing exponentially.

I'd like to see the compression has any real noticeable effect on quality before we start saying one way is better then another.
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Uncompressed audio
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>you will never make half breed al-bhabies with rikku
this world is so unfair
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>>384645610
is ffx gud
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>>384645897
It's common for cutscenes with a lot of action, because doing it real-time would destroy the framerate.
>>384646028
Quality's not really the issue - there are lossless and lossy methods, and even the lossy ones don't really affect the data in a noticeable way (unless you take it to the extreme). The real benefit to decompression is performance.
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>>384645610
Devs don't really know how to optimize their games these days.
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>>384646889
yes
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>>384646889
it's worth a playthrough. it's not great, but it is good.
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>>384646889
Haven't played it yet, but some say it's the best of the series.
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>>384646889
It's alright, kinda feels like a product of it's time.
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>>384647194
"Best" is stretching it, but its still enjoyable.
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>>384647105
This, as fitgirl repacks show again and again.
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>>384646889
Yeah but just get the ps2 inter version and emulate it less space and characters dont look retarded
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>>384645610

Isnt Splatoon 1 just barely 1gb?
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>>384647194
>some say it's the best of the series.
it's not. don't repeat this garbage and don't comment on a game you've never played. should be standard /v/ rules.
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>>384648232
I guess we can't talk about the new Mario yet
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>>384645610
her right nip is stickin out
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>>384645610
I want to FUCK Rikku.
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>>384645721
Also you're a fucking idiot who doesn't understand anything about it.

The actual answer is quality. Not of game, concept, experience as people like the guy I linked are stupid enough to think, but of audio and image.

If you want to get detail onto your texture, you do it now. You couldn't then. If you want to make a song now, though it may surprise you, it takes a little more space to record an entire song using different sounds than it did to make the pc speaker beep every few seconds.

Yes devs can get lazy and release bloated products, but for the most part it increases proportionally to the cost of the storage medium itself.
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>>384648726
>The actual answer is quality. Not of game, concept
explain tens of GB of uncompressed audio then. what is the purpose to have that for every single audio file?
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>>384646889
yeah it's pretty good
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>>384645917
I think compression is an interesting topic though
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>>384648634
it isnt, just appears to due to the light.
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>>384647784
I remember all the wii u games were tiny because the wii u had shit storage. I have no idea how nintendo does it.
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>>384648850
Ease of access. As the medium on which you store it becomes cheaper and faster, you get better results by not compressing your files. I mean yes obviously consoles retard this process, as to people with toasters, storage is increasing so quickly there's hope we could just use and share uncompressed data. It would save time, and ease repair.

As we develop new methods of transfer compression will become more important again, because bandwidth between devices is always a limiter, but having a game take up 9GB and take 4x the time to load is less preferable than having it take up 36GB and load quickly.
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I remember when I got my Bone home and installed Ge4rsand saw that 100GB progress bar. Now we know For7a is 100GB too. Now we see the future.
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>>384646042
and uncompressed video files.
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>>384648850
>>384649182
What about giving an option to leave some assets compressed then?
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Back in the 90s hdds were megabytes in size.
You figure it out you underage hipsters.
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>>384648850
>guy who is an audiophile has a $300 sound card and a system in his home
Audio is the most important thing and shouldn't be compressed
>guy who has giant 122k TV
video between gameplay should be prioritized, I shouldn't have to sacrifice
>guy who is me
Thats a lot of space, guess I'll get rid of something
>guy who is OP
I hope I can afford to have toasted bread this month
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>>384649414
My brother and I agreed we'd approach my dad with a proposition. We'd cooperate to produce half the cost for a 2.1GBHDD if he'd cover the other half, and that we'd double how much wood we cut if he'd pay for the other half.

He did. We all played so many games. My mom hated it. My dad basically carried my brother and I through The Dig, and both Indiana Jones'.

I miss my dad.
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>>384650003
I'm sure he's proud of you wherever you are now in life anon.
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>>384650282
Maybe, we both got the "get a terminal disease card and don't pass go"

I worry that he felt like it was his fualt before he passed. I hope he didn't.
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>sister catches me furiously fapping to Rikku
>years later she still calls me a pedophile and jokes about it
>even though Rikku is 18+
What a doggy dog world.
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>>384650923
Your sister caught you fapping? And she did nothing?

Fake story.
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>>384651069
You've been watching too much porn.
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>>384649096
Art direction that takes a minimalist approach with regards to texture work.
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>>384651069

Yeah, she at least would've helped him out with her young pussy.

>i-it's just practice sex, onii-chan
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>>384650923
>doggy dog
you mean dog-eat-dog?
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>>384651469
JUST
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>>384651469
When it comes down to brass stacks it doesn't even matter.
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>>384651469
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>>384651469
If you're going to outright ignore people and not lurk, you're at least supposed to pretend to have been here. Jesus you newfags are really fucking this site up. Usually I'd play doubles advocate for you but even I only have so much patience.
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>>384651469
What kind of sense does that make?
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>>384651623
Problems like these are a diamond dozen.
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>>384651968
>>384651869
>>384651776
Look fellas. /v/ has been really shitty lately. Maybe a little naive fresh blood is a blessing in the skies. I'm in no place to say for sure.
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>>384645610
Big is relative.
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>>384651469

You look pretty silly right now bro. Doggy dog flows off the tongue better, everyone knows this.
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>>384651776
>doubles advocate
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>>384652290
>blessing in the skies
I love it lmao
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Because they can. If they can use that space, they will. I've been playing Sonic on my phone the past couple days.

The Sonic 1 app was 20MB, the Sonic CD app was 263MB because the SEGA devs back in the day crammed higher quality music and an animated intro onto the disc because they could.
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>>384653198
>>384653290
why would you encourage this? har har lets pollute the english language even further. niggers can barely speak and you're going to put a little humor before discourse? I know you feel like you're doing the right thing, but trust me you're not. I have a sick sense when it comes to these things, you're doing more harm than good.
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>>384653853
>I know you feel like you're doing the right thing,

You overestimate us.
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Does it bother nobody that OP posted an image that is 1/2 a MB?

You want to talk about how devs take up to much space? Your image takes up 40% of a floppy disk. The medium upon which games used to be distributed.

You're a stupid fag, shut up.
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>>384645610
because optimization =/= shekels
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>>384653982
You missed it friend, I put another one in there for you.
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>>384654204
I genuinely thought you just meant to type "sick sense of humor".
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Besides the assets ballooning in both quality and size, another reason for smaller games getting bigger is that they are often made with libraries, runtimes and other middleware that make development faster and easier at the expense of game performance and size.
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>>384654409
You're alright dude. It's nice to have someone new to use the old memes on, and you're not getting petulant and salty which is always a plus. There's a lot to be said for a man who is willing to swallow his prize and learn when everyone else is just trying to be the loudest.
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>>384645610
The largest files in a game, in descending order:
>FMV
>Textures
>Sounds
>Models
If a game has lots of one or more of them, expect a large install size. RPGs are the biggest offenders.
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Man I want to fuck Rikku
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>>384645897
Metal Gear Rising
Max Payne 3
Marvel vs Capcom Infinate
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>>384645610
Any good SFM? Nutted to the FFX scene where she takes off her water clothes and bend over for me.
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