Sonic Forces - Infinite

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>>384638470
They're not being self aware, its being played straight and I fucking love it. I rather have an edgy tone than the shit that was Colors and Lost World.

>>384639073
They're fully aware that they're playing it straight though

I always kind of wanted a Shadow the Hedgehog 2 with this exact tone. Just maximum stupid edgy played completely fucking straight.

>>384639194
This doesn't look as edgy as ShTH. I don't see any guns in sight or forced cursing.

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>>384638470
start the memes boys

FUCKING ADD A CHAO GARDEN AGAIN

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why are people "loving" this again? even if it's irony.

>>384639487
>not enjoying stupid edgy shit

>>384638470
>faster and stronger than Sonic
>edgier than Shadow
>black metal theme song

Is like the ultimate OC but its real.

>>384638470
I mean, the over retarded design the outdated Linkin Park -esque rock, with a character that outclasses Sonic in everything makes me believe that "maybe" they are being self aware and doing a joke with OCs and shit and the early 2000s internet fanbase.

but this is Sonic Team we are talking about, they are going to fucking play it straight as we all know.

>>384638470
>faster than Sonic
>has a edgy theme
>You have to create a OC
Your OC has to fight the ultimate edgy OC

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>>384639487
It's so fucking cheesy that it's amazing. It's the "1-up girl" of Sonic to me.

I've listened to his theme 5 times and holy shit I still love that intro.

>>384639367
Shadow had the appearance of edge, but outside of the intro and a moment here and there (killing Eggman, for instance) didn't really do anything at all.
It was mostly just another Sonic game, except with a projectile attack and the word "damn" being said a lot.

>>384638470
"I am the sharpest of blades, I'll cut you down in a second."
wew

>Video starts
>"Maybe it is just a poo in loo re-uploading the video with cool electronic music and a black and white filter"
>Video ends
>It is the official trailer

His power level is INFINITE

>Never really played a Sonic game
>Kind of enjoying how Mania turns out
>Decided to look up Forces to see what is happening
>This
Is this normal Sonic awfulness or is this even more so than normal?

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>>384638470
>self aware
Who wants to tell him?

>>384640031
Its standard Sonic autism. I don't know why people are trying to pretend its a parody, this isn't even the worst they've done.

>>384639561
sure, i enjoy it in meme form but there's literally nothing good about this in-game and i don't know why it's suddenly worth buying because of that

Its still being written by the guy who's been writing since Colors. It might very well be a parody.

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>>384640031
It hasn't been this edgy since 2006. Since then there have been moments of edge, but generally Sonic Team tried to go for a more Saturday morning cartoon approach, with varied success. Why they're going back to a darker tone is beyond me. I just want to know what IIzuka's endgame here is.

>>384640031
Probably the closest to this lately has been Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic '06, every since then as mostly been goofy and lighthearted. The fanbase, on the other hand...Jesus.

Most people are suspecting that this is Sega basically rolling all the edgy donutsteels into one character and making him as laughably edgy as possible.

>>384640140
Whats the worst they have done?

>>384640201
>>384640224
Unleashed was somewhat edgy.

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>>384638470
I lost it at "woah this guy is faster then Sonic".

>>384639631
>>384639708
You forgot
>trailer starts with black and white AMV-type video to Linkin Park sounding song

Hey guys I came from Reddit

>>384638470
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

I'm still waiting for "Almost Dead" to be out-edged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnMPWgOVGCQ

>“Ah you think edginess is your ally, Shadow? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the cornball until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!”

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>>384640335
Sure, but it wasn't even close to as edgy as '06 though. It got about as dark as your average Disney movie. Honestly, it was just about right tonally speaking.

What if he says the Coldsteel line.

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>''I was born in this pain. It only hurts if you let it''

Jesus Christ Sega.

>>384640201
>Why they're going back to a darker tone is beyond me.
Because the saturday morning cartoon stuff is boring. Even if you think this looks stupid at least its entertaining. I never once laughed at any if the "jokes" in Colors or Lost World.

>>384640201

I don't think you're aware of what they actually got up to in old cartoons

I think we're ready for plots with a tiny bit more meat and threat in them than "eggman sucks up some life force" and "kidnaps some cute aliens"

>>384640592
Am I terrible for wanting to create Coldsteel as my donutsteel for Forces? It feels...right.

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>Even the name of the band is ''Dangerkids''

>>384638470
I cut myself with that trailer.

>>384640680
>NO COPYRIGHT LAW IN THE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO STOP ME!
but it was so topical and fourth wall breaking, isn't that epic?

>>384640680
>I never once laughed at any if the "jokes" in Colors or Lost World.
Bullshit, my dude.
Maybe you didn't laugh at any jokes in cutscenes, I know I didn't, but some of the PA announcements in Colors are genuinely entertaining.

>>384640786
Will Dangerkids take Linkin Park's place now that they're dead?

>>384640731
Apparently you can get very close, the sonic twitter guy did it

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>>384638470

>that fucking donut steel and his accompanying soundtrack
>mfw

There is absolutely no way Sega isn't aware of the deviantart bullshit. They HAVE to be doing this on purpose. Someone should go ask the Sonic Twitter guy about it.

What are the odds they have Shadow blow Infinite the fuck out and have him laugh at Infinite for beign an edge lord?

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>that edgy design
>that music
>that voice
>that name
>that everything

>>384640975
Sonic Twitter guy isn't in charge of any of this.He's just a PR dude.

>>384641086

Obviously, but hearing him discuss this stuff is always entertaining.

Where the fuck is my Crush 40?

>>384640731

Meme man says you can make something close to coldsteel.

>>384640031
It lines up with Shadow The Hedgehog from 2005 and Sonic '06, but otherwise not really. The rest of the 3D games that came before Colors in '09 or so tried to go for something like a cheesy action movie, and the ones that have come since Colors they've tried to be really silly and that's about it.

Personally I wish they could go for something like Adventure and Unleashed, or catch the lightning in a bottle of Adventure 2's total cheese, but I find over the edge to at least be more amusing in its badness than 90% of what the post-Colors games have to offer.

DangerKids. A purposely overpowered bad guy. Those lyrics. Theres no way this isn't a parody of "dark and edgy" Sonic stories. They have to be doing this ironically.

I'm the tallest of mountains
I am the roughest of waves
I'm the toughest of terrors
I am the darkest of days
I'm the last one that's standing
Don't try to stand in my way
'Cause I've been up against better
Just take a look at my face

>>384641086

NoA has joked about shit like Sonichu for years, I'm sure they told SoJ a few things.

>>384641214
The OPEN YOUR HEART E3 fail killed them.

>>384641347
Think you mean Sega of America not Nintendo. And with the poor relationship because Sega of America and Sega of Japan I feel they don't really work that close together and talk about stuff like this. They just market it in ways that they feel would make enough Sonic fans joke around. With the Twitter just being their big one that is all about making fun of the whole insanity that is Sonic in the west.

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>You can create Coldsteel and fight Infinite for the title of edgiest Sonic OC

Inb4 it's all a ruse and they pull a Gladion 2.0 in that what looks like the edgiest edge rival yet in the trailers is actually the sweetest and best boy putting on airs to fit in with the bad guys.

I think I kind of love this, but all the gameplay I've seen from Forces still looks like complete shit to me.

I dont know whats real anymore.

>>384642123
AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO BE INFINITE

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>>384640694
What, you mean SatAM? Of course I'm aware of it. I was strictly talking about the games for the sake of simplicity since that anon was curious.

>>384640680
I never said I enjoyed stories from the likes of Colors or Lost World. But the real problem with those stories wasn't the tone, it was the overall awful writing. Something like Unleashed had the right tone. It could be serious but also light hearted. The writing wasn't great, but it was serviceable. My point here is going to either extreme never yields great results. Sure, the edgy shit is amusing for now, but how would you feel after a few games of it? Because that's basically what happened in the 2000's and people got sick of it by the time ShadowTH rolled around and then '06 crashed everything with no survivors.

I'm just wondering what Iizuka has planned in the long term, or if he's just doing what he usually does which is throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

AND AFTER ALL THIS TIME, YOU'RE BACK FOR MORE

My interests have wrapped around. So steeped in irony, I genuinely love shitty games and am bored by good ones. The drama has surpassed cheesy and entered into funny.

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>>384638470
Someone do it.

>>384642589
>Warrior Within Prince is never ever in these
I don't understand.

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Reminder that the third character was originally going to be boom sonic (the grappling hook would have been the electro-whip thing) but they had to change it after the wii u game flopped, which caused the game to be delayed a year so it wasn't released during the 25th

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>tfw can't tell if this is a joke or serious because of shit like Shadow and '06

>>384642707
Sonic Boom humor is so good.

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>>384638470

This fucking game.

>>384639487
There's a charm in them embracing a character who's the personification of *Teleports behind you*. I can't say why. I think they're just doing it in jest, though it would be funnier if they were being genuine.

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>>384638470
>self aware
Somehow i find that hard to believe

>>384638470
>Tails still has that Yellow translator thingy
>Baldymcnosehair
>Evil Porpoise
>I 'm supposed to be the fastest but I was too slow to save my buddy

Shit new writer era still confirmed. That shit is so bad it somehow makes a game where you ignore the plot nigh unplayable.

>>384642707
>>384642823
>Boom humor is so good
>in a response to Amy talking to literally the most tryhard lolrandom character, even worse than Charmy

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>>384638470
Calling it now: Infinite is your OC's father.

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>>384642823
The TV-show was great, the games? Not so much.

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>implying its self aware
>implying its not the deviantart kids growing up and getting jobs at SEGA

>>384643002
no, infinite is the father of all OCs ever. It's an infinite supply of OCs

>>384640808
underrated post

>>384642989
Yeah Sticks jokes are pretty bad sometimes but that particularly image was funny.

>>384642981
New writer era is perfect for a self-aware jab at dark and edgy plots, though.

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>>384638470
>chaos from sonic adventure 1 is back

>>384642816

It's probably being delivered at face value, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say that there's more to Infinite than just officially licensed Coldsteel. Everything is pointing towards the fact that something is off with him and Buddy is somehow related to it.

>>384638470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

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Is that a Berserk reference?

>>384643067
Why not both?

>>384643048
the more I look at this shit a new detail I didn´t notice before makes it even funnier.

>>384640145
>i enjoy it in meme form
Fuck off to reddit.

>>384643112
The 'actually referencing the semantics of a transition' was fine, but Sticks's Wadepool moment at the end, not so much

>>384643085
>It's an INFINITE supply of OCs
Lewd! LEWD!

>>384638470
I want to fuck it

>>384638470
>that theme
I'm dying here! I love it!

I hope they took notes from the responses they got from their Sonic The Hedgehog Twitter.

I hope Infinite ends up like Scourge from the comics. As an evil Sonic of another dimension, he jumped off the deep end when he realized his entire existence is based off of somebody else, but the only thing he could think of was to be eviller and edgier than he was before.

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>>384638470
>Watching this with my friend earlier today
>I say the animation kind of sucks
>She says they're good
>Dub is bad as well, she still intends to buy the game, I tell her to just use the japanese dub, she won't have to hear stupid things like, ''Wow, good job rookie! You're better than I am!''
>She tells me, ''Anon, shut the fuck and let me enjoy the cheesy dialogue''

How do I save her, /v/?

>>384643152
Alternate timelines. Hes been pulled during the events of SA1. Shadow is from SA2 before he reformed.

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>People think they're trying to present him seriously

As if he wasn't enough, the fact that "Canon fan OC's" should make it more than obvious this game has a lot of tongue-in-cheek pokes at the autistic fandom as a whole


as funny as it is that probably wont save it if the gameplay ends up being trash though

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I don't even remember what video game amy is like

>>384643363
He kind of looks like a fox so he might be evil Tails instead.

>>384643430
The story is that Sonic isn't around during the Modern Era this time. So he wasn't there to purify Chaos or help Shadow switch sides.

>>384643421
shut the fuck up and let her enjoy the cheesy dialogue

>>384640441
Such power--

>>384643451
That image is pretty much video game Amy in a nutshell though.

>>384643451
>CD
vapid damsel in distress
>Adventure
annoying fangirl who undergoes a decent character arc to be somewhat more independent
>Adventure 2
forgot everything she learned in adventure, vapid damsel in distress

>>384643421
you learn to appreciate shitty, cheesy dialogue and enjoy playing the game with her.

Seriously, what is your problem?

>>384643442
>People think they're trying to make him a parody
How do people end up this delusional? Have you just never paid attention to any of the sonic games? This shit is par for the course.

>>384643152
i'm 100% sure they'll give a half-ass excuse of why he's there and not in afterlife with tikal

>>384642589
You can't put him there, his edginess is infinite.

I am raping the replay button on this shit.

this is so unironically early 2000 Linkin Park I fucking love it, the fucking memories man.

>>384643421
Until you wife her you shut the fuck up, then after you wife her you sneak your opinions in after sex.

>>384643537
If Chaos wasnt calmed then why would Shadow awaken Shadow? He only woke up because Eggman went and broke him out.

>>384638470
>>384639073
>theme sounds like a Linkin Park song
No way this isn't 100% self aware and ironic.

>>384643720
people have sex before marriage you know anon

>>384643637
It's very on the nose after Sega went out of their way to not be edgy for the past decade, 1006 was 11 years ago

>>384643421
dude, it's a sonic game. You're a retard for thinking the dialog would be anything but cheesy

>>384643637
Hello Arin

>>384643756
We can assume some things and not others in this universe, let's not go rewriting the natural laws in one swoop.

>>384643421
Stop being a fucking sperg and learn to have fun.

>>384643572
>>Adventure 2
>forgot everything she learned in adventure, vapid damsel in distress
When? Was it the part where she freed Sonic from jail? Or perhaps the part where she convinced Shadow to not kill everyone?
Oh wait, Eggman pointed a gun at her that one time. Yeah, I guess she sucks in SA2 then.

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>>384643458
>Classic never came to save kid Tails from his crushing loneliness because time travel so he grew into a 180IQ edgelord OC

Why did I like this series again? I seriously forgot.

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>>384643654
>his edginess is infinite.

>>384638470
You have to admit, they're really in touch with the kind of stuff they know at least part of the Sonic fanbase is really going to love. Gotta give them props for that.

>>384643740
Why would Eggman awaken Shadow*

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>those lyrics
>that amv intro
>voiced by freaking liam o'brien

>Some still don't think this is a selfaware parody

>>384643961
Why stop at only one world-conquering superweapon?

Hell, why even wake Chaos if he already had Metal Sonic?

>>384643756
>people have sex before marriage
Yeah, they're called used goods.

>>384643885
You're kind of overlooking the part where she hugs fucking Shadow while he's just chilling there with Eggman because she thinks he's Sonic and had to be saved for it.

Also only one girl convinced Shadow to not be so edgy, and it wasn't a hedgehog.

>>384643860
>>384644049
enjoy being single your whole life if you are going to write off everyone that's had sex before

>>384643421
Stop posting on /v/ and relearn how to have fun.

>>384643201
I don't mind Zavok. He was the only Zeti shit from lost World (Besides Zazz) I actually liked.

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>>384638470
>theme is one part dubstep, one part linkin park
>literally calls himself "infinite"
>H-HAYAI *teleports behind you*
>design so edgy it would make coldsteel do a double take
This is going to be the best fucking thing

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>>384644012
It's fucking Iizuka. The VAs will probably ham it up, but Iizuka isn't making this to be a parody or ironic.

>>384644076
>maria: shadow give the world's people a chance to be happy
>*maria dies*
>shadow:i will kill the world in your name

Is shadow some kind of idiot? He did the exact opposite of what maria wanted him to do

>>384638470
That fucking voice, can it be?

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>>384638470
Why is Akechi in Sonic?

>>384644178
Also
>starts with a black and white AMV intro to his own theme

>>384644217
He just had to remember what she said like 80 times before he could discern the actual meaning in her words. Yes, it was autism

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reminder

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>>384643927
>yfw the Sonic Twitter has been joking saying Tails dies because it's technically true and Infinite is Future Tails who dies in the end

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>>384643939

>>384644190
Fucker really wants the series to be Final Fantasy, doesn't he?

>>384644076
>Also only one girl convinced Shadow to not be so edgy, and it wasn't a hedgehog.
You're kind of overlooking the part where Amy is talking to Shadow and says some sappy bullshit that reminds him that Maria said not to kill everyone, thus saving the day.

>>384644159
He still jobs hard to Sonic just like all the other Zeti though. He's a pushover and a joke.

>>384639631
holy shit don't ever talk about black metal again thanks

>>384644320
>Infinite turns into "Fun Sonic" during his boss fight using the emeralds.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>384644325
>Infinite is an edgy, bitter alternate version Tails who wants to crush Sonic so everyone would stop relying on him as his universe's Sonic did nothing but disappoint him and wrack him with grief

Actually would be the deepest shit

>>384642707
ANy good torrents for season 2? I can't find shit on it

>>384644484
See the Game Gear bad end for Sonic 2.

>>384644484
>>384644325
>>384643927
Reminder that Tails is faster than Sonic.

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>>384639631
>black metal

>>384644596
So is eggman

>>384644559

Good damn it.
8 year old me could never beat game gear sonic 1 & 2.
I easily crush chaos and triple trouble though.

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>>384644484
>his name is Infinite because he has infinite tails instead of just two

>>384644528
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13nFFvW_f9gQNTcn3q9iQmO_yD0Q0xZjDEG2IVrF6yAE

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry

>>384644810
Thanks anon, how often does it get updated for new episodes

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>only 15 episodes of sonic boom left

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>>384644320
*CREEPY SONIC CD GAME OVER MUSIC PLAYING IN THE DISTANCE*

>>384644876
It's not my cup of tea, but I'm happy for the Sonic fans who really want this.

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The fact that you can make your own character in Forces is what makes it clear that this is SEGA being self aware. When it comes to making your own Sonic character, the most common features are:
>Faster and stronger than Sonic
>Overdesigned
>Talks about how little time other characters have to live
>metal theme music
>"life is pain"
>"You may call me _____"
Infinite is basically the love child of Nazo and Coldsteel. And given how the Sonic twitter has constantly been making jokes about both Sanic and Coldsteel, it feels to perfect to not be completely intentional.

>>384644884
every week as they air, give or take a couple days
the one with a gem is the newest (they're airing out of order), and I think the green highlighted 1080s are new as well (meaning it replaced an already existing 480 rip)

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>>384642589

>>384645010
I desperately hope you can literally make Cold Steel in Forces.

>>384645176
Perfect

>>384645176
you need to make the infinite edge red bar go for the entire height of the image

>>384644892
They are just going to make more seasons. Whats the problem?

>>384645181
Shouldn't be hard.
>Purple hedgehog
>Add Jinco jeans
It'll be nice if there's enough customization for the rest, but that alone would look close enough.

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>>384638470
I unironically like Infinite, self-aware or not I like serious threats in Sonic. He's like Mephiles except not as creepy which imo Mephiles was one of the few things I liked from 06 and I like that Infinite has that same sort of menacing feel to him. I also like his theme, it fits him and it's just a good song. It's simple as shit to write him off as edgy but I have yet to see anything about him that reaches ShTH levels of edge.

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>>384645176
It's.. It's beautiful.

>>384645516
The animation studio is working on the Sly Cooper cartoon now. So even if it is renewed (which is only possible if its a huge hit overseas, as it bombed in America) it won't be back for a while.

>>384645176
I'm the guy who dropped the template. I love it.

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>>384645489

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>>384644145
Well, I want to thank you all for the feedback.
I realized how retarded it was for shoving my opinion down my friend's throat and I should stop taking this shit so seriously. I showed my friend your responses, she still hates this site, but I appreciate you all.
Thank you.
>Pic related, it's a picture she sent, she said it was me. Don't worry, I apologized to her, I'm not a fucking manchild.

>>384645578
dan "CLUCK LIKE A CHICKEN" green really made the most of that hamfest too, he seemed like he was having fun being the edgiest lord to live
not to mention that sweet creeper theme that ends in orchestral all hail shadow

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>>384645628
>likes: black (the color, not the people)
>dislikes: black (the people, not the color)

>>384645578
A lot of people here think that every game should just have a completely toothless plot and Mario like atmosphere. It's how shit like Lost World got made.

>>384645717
>I showed my friend your responses
are you an actual diagnosed autistic

>>384643421
>autist who cares about dub vs. sub on SONIC FUCKING FORCES can get a girl
w-we're all gonna make it bros

>>384645176
You gotta make the caption under his bar be lyrics from his song.

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>>384638470
Imagine if Shadow was introduced today, would he get the same mediocre reception as Infinite has?

>>384644217
Heavily implied mental reprogramming.

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>>384645717
>I'm not a fucking manchild
>I just sincerely care about the quality of dialogue in sonic the hedgehog: edgy adventures enough to try and convince a friend to listen in nipponese
>then I show her the responses I got on 4chan
I mean it's nice you've come to your senses, but good christ lad

>>384645979
Well, if Shadow never existed until now who knows how the Sonic series (and fanbase) would have changed without him. It's really hard to say. In any case, Shadow is a lot less edgy looking than Infinite is.

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>>384645717
>I showed my friend your responses
>I'm not a fucking manchild

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>>384645717
Rules one and two, you fucking autistic faggot.

Kill yourself. Then come back and kill yourself again.

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>>384645781
>A lot of people here think that every game should just have a completely toothless plot
>people here
It's people everywhere, not just here.
Anyone who ever says that they didn't like the stories in Colors or Lost World, or anything even along those lines, can expect to run into about a million people saying "this is a series about a blue hedgehog that runs fast, it shouldn't have a serious story."
This is nothing more tired than the "but he's a blue hedgehog tho" defense.

>>384640441
NO MORE GODS
NO MORE GRACE
THIS KONG
HAS A FUNNY FACE

>>384639487
Why did people like Shadow when he was first revealed?

Because Infinite is literally Shadow 2.0 if you don't count Mephiles.

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>>384638470
>I'M THE TOUGHEST OF TERRORS
>I AM THE DARKEST OF DAYS

>>384638470
I can literally only think of Gaara when I hear him talk. The VA just literally redid the voice he did for Gaara

>>384645979
well he would get laughed at for his colorscheme and being called "shadow", and people would think his skates are either goofy or the coolest thing, but he's not that bad all things considered, especially pre-heroes/StH
infinite fucking opens with a linkin park AMV and ticks off every EDGE factor he can

>>384645979
>medicore

his reveal seems pretty popular going by youtube

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I think I figured out why. They are look at interactions of Sonic in the past and they must have decided that whatever is 'hip' with the american kids must be the way they should put into the game.

So in the 90s it was the way-cool Hedgehog with attitude (Unlike that nice boy Mario). So now they are doing a super-edgy shtick because I guess that's cool?

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>>384638470
Infinite's theme is pretty good, and I thought I was over this shitshow of a franchise

>>384645176
This >>384645943
>I AM THE SHARPEST OF BLADES

>>384645603
Sony kills another franchise in their quest to whore out Sly/Knack/Ratchet.

>>384643185
The Sonic comic was actually going to have variant covers that were Berserk homages right before it was cancelled.

>>384646596
>mephiles

Anon we don't peak that...things's name

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>>384639073
>Game is about Sonic OC's
>Villan is the most over the top combination of every DeviantArt Sonic OC Fourms and Wiki ColdSteel Edgehog known to man that is stronger and faster than sonic in every way and has gokus teleport and hand beams

If you dont think its self aware you're a fucking fool honestly.

>>384646757
Sony doesn't own Sly. Or Ratchet.

Dunno about Knack. Who cares anyway.

>>384646596
>Why did people like Shadow when he was first revealed?
Because it was 2001

>>384643421
>Japanese dub

Not even the Japanese actually listen to the Japanese voice tracks.

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>>384646853

>Sony doesn't own Sly. Or Ratchet.

>>384646596
>Why did people like Shadow when he was first revealed?
Because Sonic wasn't a mockery to people back then, people just rolled with the changes the 3D games brought aside from the Green Eyes/HisNameisRobotnik complainers

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI97jY3FZ9Q
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4
>vocal themes out the ass again
this is fun, they're totally gonna do the huge orchestral final boss theme again after the flops that were generations and lost world right? we need another solaris/gaia/nega whisp phase 2

>>384646757
why do you assume the sly cartoon will definitely be bad when boom worked out?

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>>384646657
The name and color scheme and all that shit fit with the whole "fake hedgehog" thing.

>>384644012
>Some still don't think this is a selfaware parody

Was Shadow the Hedgehog a self-aware parody? Because I don't think it was.

>>384647110
Lost World's final boss theme was one of the best songs in the soundtrack though.

>>384646663
Sonic was always edgy. It just started out small and kept building up more and more over time. The Archie Comics and Sonic SatAM didn't help either.

>>384647207
how is that in any way relevant to the context of the current year?

>>384643572
Don't understand why people think this. Yeah, Amy is an annoying Sonic fangirl, but she is fairly competent and not some bumbling retard that the writers from Sonic Boom thought she was and tried to change. I know 06 gets a lot of shit but damn Amy's characterization in that game is spot on.

She's not the Peach of the Sonic universe.

>>384647207
It wasn't. But that was before the franchise started embracing its own stupidity.

>>384647316
If they didn't "get it" then I don't think they'll "get it" now.

>>384647207
Shadow The Hedgehog was released in 2005 based off his popularity with people in Sonic Adventure 2, released in 2001

Do you remember 2001 and 2005 anon? Kids listened to alot of Linkin Park and wore alot of Black.

Who actually decides things about the game? Does SEGA give Iizuka mandates or does he have most of the control or what?

>>384647207
Shadow the Hedgehog was also 12 years ago idiot.

The Sega of today is different. They're totally self-aware.

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>>384647270
>Sonic was always edgy.
What parts of the Genesis games were edgy?

>>384647365
We honest to god do not know at this point.

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>>384647346
You're forgetting someone from the equation, friend.

>>384640908
holy fuck you weren't kidding

>>384647110
>Lost Worlds final boss theme
>Bad

Nigga what?

>>384647409
The parts where the flickies were used as batteries for robots.

>>384647331
>She's not the Peach of the Sonic universe.

Peach is smarter, more capable, and more relevant to her series than Amy could ever hope to be.

>>384639738
nothin personal kid

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What's his endgame?

>>384647365
It used to be Yuji Naka, but he left after 06.

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>>384638470
>that voice
Is that shadow's voice actor from sonic adventure 2?

>>384647552
Protecting the chao.

>>384640335
the opening movie was a bit but then it's about the power of friendship the rest of the game, ending with dealing with losing a friend

>>384647516
Yeah in the spinoffs.

Other than that, she's literally just damsel the distress princess. That is her defining character trait, being stolen by the same villain for 30+ years.

>>384647207
Is it really fair to compare the two? I don't think characters are gonna start saying damn, use guns, and tell eggman he's going to hell...or kill the president...the president having both hedgehogs in a picture frame on his desk in front of the white house.......

>>384647552
Time Travel so they probably just hijacked angry at everything Chaos from SA1.

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>>384647621
Better. It's Gaara's. Liam O' Bran.

This entire game reeks of nostalgia for the 2000s.

This is the start of a new retro game movement.

>>384647621
Gaara from Naruto

shit you not

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>>384647346
Are you completely blind to the current culture surrounding sonic and how aware sega is of it? This isn't 2003 anymore

>>384647621
Senpai sonic and shadow have the same VA amd that include the va changes.

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>>384647621
Its Liam O'Brien, aka the voice of one of the most popular current edgelord characters for kids.

>>384647409
Sonic was originally marketed as an edgy alternative to mario
that's why his character design is so spiky

>>384647834
Cool =/= spiky, you nut

>>384647481
>>384647253
poor choice of words, just meant they missed the opportunity to do the dumb over the top LIVE AND LEARN or orchestral endings like most of the preceding 3d games

>>384647776
Hey, the dude was Asura.

I respect him just for that. Must have been murder on his throat.

>>384647834
>edgy alternatives
>80's "hip" and "radical" is considered "edgy"
What the fuck man

>>384647409
Sonic himself was designed to be a more edgy Mario. Metal Sonic is an more edgy and evil version of Sonic, and Knuckles is basically an edgier version of Sonic who starts out antagonizing them, but becomes a friend. Metal Sonic and Knuckles are basically Shadow the Hedgehog prototypes.

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>>384647736
I am ok with this i think he's a good actor in naruto
>>384647774
No they don't.
Sonic is voiced by roger craig smith and shadow is voiced by kirk thorton.
Shadow used to be voiced by david humphrey in SA2.
>>384647776
He's a pretty good voice actor so i'm ok with it.

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>>384647884
HE'S LITERALLY SPIKEY
HE IS COVERED IN SPIKES
HE'S A FUCKING HEDGEHOG

>>384638470
> OC´s are canon

> now Linkin Park AMV´s are canon

we are going all out boys

>>384647758

>Are you completely blind to the current culture surrounding sonic and how aware sega is of it?

Sega of America. Sega of Japan is completely disconnected from the western fanbase.

I mean for fuck's sake Iizuka didn't expect Mania to receive such a positive reception.

>>384647331
I think Amy is decent in Adventure and Adventure 2, but Heroes kicks off this dumb bullshit where Amy is so obsessed with Sonic that she'll go into a violent rage and beat everyone up, including Sonic, to try to get Sonic to marry her, and this sort of shit dominates her characterization through all the games to come.

>>384647774
The only time Sonic and Shadow had the same VA was Sonic 06 and the spinoffs around that time, and that was Jason Griffith.

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>>384639631
>black metal theme song

>>384648028
Sega of japan has made alot of fuck ups so maybe it's time for superior america to fix it?

>>384647552
Chaos 0 was a pushover though

>>384648028
>I mean for fuck's sake Iizuka didn't expect Mania to receive such a positive reception.

WHY AS HE NOT BEEN FIRED?!?!

>>384638470
watch this dude just be fucking alt sonic or some shit

>>384648028
>Sega of Japan is completely disconnected from the western fanbase.
Sega of America is the one running the ship for Sonic, anon.

>>384647552
eat emrowds, flood world, get final boss tracks out of order

This is so edgy it's adorable. It's like they actually got some 12 year old from deviantart to make the character.

>>384648086
They'd sooner torch the entire building than let a bunch of filthy gaijins make games better than they can.

>>384648164
Thats lntentional, the game is about Sonic OC's

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>Shadow has been around for so long that now people are nostalgic for him and applaud when a new Sonic game tries to be unironically edgy

Fuck man, I'm glad we're back to the days of making edgy hedgehogs.

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>>384648184
Really?

>>384648184
Well it looks like sonic mania is going to be better than both sonic 4 episode 1 and 2 combined so i guess they better start burning down buildings huh?

>>384648282
>unironically

>>384647515
Where's the edge?
Is Mario also edgy because the princess was kidnapped, and the innocent people where turned into blocks by Bowser's magic?

>>384647834
>>384647980
Alright, fair point if we're going with the actual meaning of the word "edgy", and not the meme meaning of the word like how it's being used in the entire rest of the thread, including the post where I ask what was edgy.

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>>384648164
He doesn't stand out really. Look at Void and Mephiles. This is really nothing new.

>>384648028
>Iizuka didn't expect Mania to receive such a positive reception
I wonder how he's going to feel when Mania totally smashes Forces 2-to-1 in sales and ratings.

>>384640652
>I was born in this pain
>Andy Bane & The Dangerkids
>Andy Bane
YOU MERELY ADOPTED THE PAIN
I WAS BORN IN IT

>>384644012
>selfaware parody

BEING EDGY IRONICALLY IS STILL BEING EDGY

>>384648362
This has gotta be pissing them off something fierce, yes.

>>384648531
Better to embrace it ironically than unironically

>>384648362
The same thing happened with Rise of Lyric. That shit is meaningless.

>>384648531
Yeah, and people will actually latch onto Infinite as a good well designed character

And you get to laugh in their face because he's intentionally terrible.

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Woah, this guy is faster than Sonic!

>>384648497
>Mania totally smashes Forces 2-to-1 in sales and ratings
Only because Mania will probably be cheaper since it's a fanmade romhack.

>>384648073
Fine, BLACK METAL BUTTROCK theme song.

>>384648497
>digital only 2D nostalgia game outsells major new 3D Sonic with physical release on store shelves
I doubt it but I want it to happen so bad.

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>>384638470
>These fucking lyrics
I fucking love when legitimate threats are over-the-top cheesy and shameless.

No holding back or trying to make things believable, just go hard and forget everything else.
Shadow wasn't even a little edgy, this is the true edge.

>>384644159
Zavok has a really nice design. He's like the Bowser of Sonic games in design.

>>384648789
>low
>faster
that's the opposite of how shadow works, even with his skates he was slightly slower than sonic and only compensated with CHAERS CANTROL

>>384648854
nigga, this shit is nu metal

>>384648841
They're two totally different kinds of games man. One selling better than the other is only proof of which style of game people enjoy more.

>A character so edgy he killed Chester Bennington with his introduction alone

>>384648841
That is not an insult. The best romhacks have been better than official Sonic games for years.

>>384648875
I think it'll happen.

>>384648985
What are you even trying to say?

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i like the song

>>384648789
That traction sucks though.

The majority of shadow's moves were overall better than though

>>384648985
It is competitive balance, the Shadow Run slided like fucking hell when breaking and was "faster" buut Sonci could turn on a dime and Sonics run is probably one of the bets one sin the game other then the ULTIMATE one.

I used Shadows because of the animation.

>>384638470
>Shadow
>Chaos
>Metal sonic
>That red fuck from lost world
>Edgy the mouse
This looks interesting

>>384648789
Poor Sonic. Everyone else has special abilities and the only people who just run fast are still faster than him.

>>384645762
/ourguy/. Confirmed

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Anyone else here looking forward to both Mania and Forces? I like 2D Classic Sonic and 3D Sonic with an over the top edgy villain.

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>>384647552
Literally all I want is to fight him in his final form again
I dont care if Generations just did it

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>Everybody likes Shadow, Chaos, and Metal returning but only Zavok gets shit on.

>>384648841
>sales numbers and ratings
>anything to do with the cost of creating the game
What?

>ROMhack
It isn't, but okay.

>>384649796
Because Zavok and Lost World fucking suck.

>>384649796

nobody likes Bootleg Bowser

>2011 Sonic boss fight
>PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

>>384646830
It's literally just Mephiles 2.0.

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>>384649910
But if he's in, then maybe the rest of the Deadly Six are in, and if they're all in, then we get more of her.

>>384649194
well I'll take your word for it, not even really sure what game that is

>>384648164
nu-/v/, everyone.

>>384650013
Infinite is nowhere near mephiles until he outright kills sonic

>>384649796
>out of those, only Zavok is irredeemable shit
>out of those, only Zavok gets shit on
what a reasonable and fair world we live in.

>>384648417
>Believing Sonic Team does anything ironically

US Sega may know that they're a meme, but Sonic Team and Iizuka still think that Sonic is meant to be "cool", and that making something that edgy is "cool"

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>>384649506
me desu
people picking sides and attacking the other are idiots

>>384650072
Don't care. Only good thing about this character was some of the porn produced before we knew a single thing about her aside from appearance.

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>>384650230
DERETE THIS SPOIRER NOW

>>384643421
Stop acting like /v/ in real life. Forget this place exists when outside.

>>384649506
I like the over the top edgy villain, but Force's gameplay looks incredibly mediocre.

>>384639487
The same reason people think Alucard and Hellsing are cool.

>>384650072
>not posting lewds
wtf?

>>384638470
is this shadows brother or something?

>>384650370
Hell now that I think about it, Sonic literally never met mephiles face to face at all outside from that one brief glance in the future.

>>384650664
Alucard wasn't ironically edgy but he was unironically badass

>>384649796
Because seriously, who is Zavok? What is his backstory? What is his character besides generic villain that wants to destroy the world? Was he a serious threat to Sonic? Did Sonic struggle against him at all? Did he have some crazy transformation that only Sonic at his strongest could compare against?

No. He just grew bigger like Bowser and started blowing fire balls. He had the ability to control any type of robot but didn't have some giant evil mech boss battle. No, instead it was Eggman.

He jobbed so hard to Sonic, twice may I had, that Sonic mocked him every time they met and he actually got bored of running into him. That's how lame of a villain Zavok is. He couldn't even keep Sonic's interest enough to be seen as a threat.

They should've brought back Emerl.

>>384650072
Is this an animal or not

>>384650931
Alien.

>>384650931

non-specific monster

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Infinite turns out to be punished Tails from the TGT universe.

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>>384651175
so thats why tails cant get a read on him, he knows his own tech inside and out.

>>384649796
>Sonic CD
>Sonic Adventure 1
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Sonic Lost World
gee I wonder why?

>>384647207
Shadow was made in a time where his brand of edgy was taken seriously.

Infinite the Hedgeheg was made in a time where straight-faced edgelords like Pittoo and to some degree Gladion aren't taken seriously in-universe

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>>384651231
Also the powerlevel, it is Tails after he beats Cheetoh Man, who is several levels above Sonic.

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This was a game that was bound to happen at some point.

I'm surprised they actually did it

>>384651515
Shadow was also made in a time when the Sonic series was generally regarded as top quality.

>>384651515
Not to mention, Sonic and Shadow had the Goku-Vegeta thing going, and DBZ was pretty popular among American teens then, too.

>>384638470
Call me when they have a villain that is a reference to bad creepypasta.

Iv never played sonic, but I'm getting this shit. The keks on launch day will be legendary
>/V/s reaction
>CWCs reaction
>cold steel and sonichus everywhere

>>384652021
Call me when they have a villain that is a reference to JoJo.

>>384651581
>doesn't hang for a second on the KNUCKLE SHOCK to let the impact sink in

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>>384652078
He doesn't know

>>384640140
Have you even seen Sega's twitter recently? The people working on this clearly know what they're doing here

>>384652470
Not too mention the way the Sonic Boom show is handled, including mocking Shadow's edginess...