Are these two the biggest Mary Sues in fiction history?

>>384625871
yup

>>384625871
Pretty much.

>>384625871
Geralt isn't a Mary Sue imo, but Ciri is one and she's also the worst character who ruined any book she was in

>>384625871
Not even remotely

How?

>>384625871
Ciri, maybe, Geralt, fuck no. Did you even play the games? Did you even read the books?

He fucks up constantly and people are calling him out all the time, remindign him that his "witcher neutrality" is just a convenient bullshit he made up to avoid having to take a side. So he ends up either fucking up by doing nothing or fucking up by taking a side.

Hell fuck, in TW1, you spend half of the game trying to correct mistake you've done earlier. "Aww shit I gave weapons to the elven faggots". "Aww shit, I fucked up ad they robbed the bank".

yes. this is one reason why tw3's main story was weak.

Ciri maybe, but Geralt? He fucks up a lot.

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>>384625871
Ciri definitely is.

>>384626701
She's do not possess "a unique power that NO ONE ELSE CAN HAVE" you stupid faggot. Sh'es basically just elder blood. Fuck, even in the games she's not the only one. Alvin was also travelling through space and time.

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>>384626701
>unique power that NO ONE ELSE CAN HAVE

>>384625871
>Geralt
>Mary Sue
Geralt goes through constant struggles and abuse. Being unnaturally strong doesn't make a character a Mary Sue

The Witcher 2 is literally about Geralt fucking up and trying to clear his name.

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>>384625871
I mean, I guess they're up there as far as game protagonists go, but I wouldn't say the biggest in fiction period.

That's still Kvothe.

>>384627579
>That's still Kvothe.
Good contender, but it doesn't match the mary-sue level of Richard motherfucking Rahl from the Sword of Thruth Saga. I read a bunch of book with Mary sue character but jeeeebus that faggot takes the award without even trying. It hurts to read.

>>384627579
>>384627895
Locke Lamora's my go-to. Something about him grates me to no end.

>>384627579
That Kvothe kid is something fierce, managed to beat Drizzt in the marysue-o-meter

>>384625871
Yeah, if you have no fucking clue what a Mary Sue is.

>>384625871
Maybe not quite the biggest, but they're damn close. Your average trash shonen anime has more relatable characters.

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>>384625871
Ciri's had a hard life tho.

Ciri is legitimately awful.
Geralt is not a mary sue.

>>384627895
I agree with you completely about The Sword of Truth.

I still love the books, though. Once Jagang is introduced, the political and social aspects really start to shine.

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She must've at least thought about it right?

>>384625871
>Mary sue
Geralt gets shit on on the books and the games numerous times.

Ciri is.