So are there any 3D Mario games that are actually hard or is

>>384609034
old ones aren't that hard either

>>384609139

What's the hardest one?

Not really. Some of the "post-game" (If you can even say Mario games have postgame) levels can be challenging, but not super hard.

>>384609194
lost levels

>>384609358
Lost levels is less "hard" and more "complete fucking bullshit".

FUCK THE CUNTING WIND

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>>384609034
>Mario
>Hard
The hardest 3D game is probably Sunshine but for all the wrong reasons, the hardest 3D levels are The Perfect Run from Galaxy 2 and Champion's Road from 3D World.

>>384609896

Was just getting nostalgic for Mario 64 but it's super easy and I wanted a bit more of a challenge. Maybe I'll try a different series.

>>384610149
Try Super Meat Boy.

>>384610396

Okay will do, thank you

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there are no hard mario games. the old ones are also easy.

>mario 1: easy
>mario 2 jp: easy, lauded as hard because the game uses shitty, cheap and poor game design tactics like putting warp zones that take you backward and pipes that lead to pitfalls
>mario 2: hardest of the mario trilogy but not by much
>mario 3: easy, flying power ups were a mistake. p wing lets you skip levels in their entirety. levels way too short.
>mario world: easy, powerups also trivialize the little difficulty here too

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*blocks your path*