realism blows

>>384599571
early access survival zombie

>>384599728
fpbp

Any number of games are advertised with progressive values as a selling point. Not just that's how the game goes, which would be an acceptable artistic decision from the developer, but rather we're expected to buy it BECAUSE it's progressive. A selling point.

Dunno, that seems worse to me.

>>384599571
>GREENLIT

It being a spiritual successor to an obscure franchise
There have been no good games to come from this selling point, prove me wrong

>>384599728
But 7 days to die is good

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>"going back to the series's roots"

>RTS
How can anyone actually enjoy these? They're boring as fuck

>>384599571
Indie
Visual Novel
Survival
Back to its roots
Tells a _____ story

>>384600237
>Dead Rising 4
It still hurts anon..

>>384599571
> Hype
Like no man's sky

>>384600216
>That one rare exception renounces your list

*Slowed down sample of a guy puking*

>WE WANT TO REACH A WIDER AUDIENCE

>>384599958
You are right. That is far, far, FAR worse.

I don't even mind when you glance at a game and go, "Huh, they gay. That's a thing I guess," but when the developers go out of their way to talk about how progressive it is, even if it's not OFFICIALLY a selling point, that's when I start to think, "Odds are good that this game is gonna be a stinking pile of hose shit."

>>384599571
>crafting

>not the first game in the series
>"perfect jumping in point"

>"Hey look, the MC's gay!"
>no way to tell that they're gay, not even in dialogue, other than the fact that they say they're gay every other sentence

>>384600449
This.

This is the red flag to end all red flags.

It never ends well.

>>384600449
Its basically implying that the old audience is leaving because of the developers ignoring them.
t. pyro update

/v/ doesn't like or play games
Don't know why you're even trying to talk about games here

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>>384600918
OP here, I love games. It's just the the further a game is abstracted from reality the more I like it.

>>384599728
Except marketers don't sell games on the idea that they are early access. They tend to leave that part out when talking about it.

>>384600320
It went back to the series first location. sure as fuck didn't go back to its roots.

>>384601285
>This is early acces because we want to really include the players feedback as early in our development as possible
>Why early access? Because we want YOU to take part in development! We implement what the community wants to see!
>
Have you ever seen an early access game pn steam? EVERY one of them has an abstract about "Why early access?" that goes like above

>>384601960
Isn't "Why early access" a required field on steam?

>>384601960
They are required to tell you it isn't finished. they are no less selling it as they are forced to tell you it's not done or else they face consequences.

>>384599571
>"The most challenging platformer ever made, you will die over and over again!"

>>384600113
Darks Souls and King's Field, maybe? That's a really tenuous link, though. Bioshock and System Shock is one that a lot of people would cite, though I never really liked Bioshock all that much.

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>>384599571
>>384599958
>>384600449

don't know which of these is worst

>>384599958
name six games that literally have "PROGRESSIVE VALUES" as a bullet point on the back of the box

>>384599958
name a few games that do that, while providing proofs of adverstisement

>>384603306
>on the box.
They are normally on Pc so no box to be seen.

>>384603504
>PC indie shit

oh so who cares then

>>384599571
openworld rpg

>oops i overleveled doing side quests, BORE TIME
>oops i went off the path to explore and there are "high level" monsters beating my ass and i do 0 damage to them, better come back here when im overlevelled

>>384600113
fucking xenoblade chronicles

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>>384599571
You are now viewing an early alpha build of our open world crafting survival zombie apocalypse third person action mmorpg with customizable guild housing system and flexible pve content created by this guy you never heard of

>>384599571
Immersive

>>384599571
waifus

>>384600216
Good is a strong word

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>anime or weebshit game

I don't even waste time looking past the aesthetics.

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>>384603890
TW3 in a nutshell

>>384599571
Fantasy RPG.
RPG Elements
Turn based.
Story focused
Socially concious.

>>384599571
That's not true though, what about sports games? You want sports games to be realistic right op? right?...

>>384606492
me on the right

>>384607180
it applies to way more games than just witcher
this shit plagues both western and jap games
there is no escape, it provides the general audience with the feeling of "getting stronger", when it's just their character that gets arbitrary stronger, not them getting gud.

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>>384608052
fuck that

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>>384599571
>Jim Sterling quote in the trailer

>>384608768
>jim "jim sterling" sterling

SoulsLike

>>384600113
Dishonored and Thief?