Star Citizen Reduces Scope by 95%

They've already made their money, why are they even bothering to make the game still?

I mean I get why they have to do it, but I don't get why anyone would defend it. I sort of hope they're hit with a massive amount of refunds, but seeing the SC fanbase, I doubt it.

Just play Elite instead.

Man, Elite is a shame. It's so CLOSE to being good, but the shitty law scheme and resultant carebear societies has made open play an empty and joyless place.

>Scam Citizen
I just feel bad for everybody who backed it now. Or I would, if it wasn't so obviously bullshit from the very beginning.

Just play freelancer instead.

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post >yfw you didn't fall for Scam Citizen.

>>384565320
I never gave them a penny and never expected their full dream to come to fruition. But i want to game to actually come out and be good. I am defending it because it is a step in the right direction a fuckhuge empy world day 1 was unesesary and at best a waste of resources at worst a detriment to the game.

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>>384565735
>tfw you could never join the bandits

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>>384565776

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@ 384565776
Sorry but I'm all out of (You)s for this month.

>>384565776
I thought it was free so I registered with a throwaway email, only to realize I need to buy some $50 virtual dildomobile just to get access to the download

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>>384565776

>>384565493
It has shit flying mechanics and combat.

>>384566024
Personal taste, I find the flight model far nicer than SC and the player skill in comabt far more meaningful. Elite isn't cluttered with thousands of kinds of space gizmos, it's just the fundamentals of its space dogfighting, and there's plenty of depth there already.

>>384566173
Ehh i think the gizmos would be cool. Do you use a hotas? And have you tried a sc module? I think with a mousr snd keyboard elite would be giod enough but I can't helo feel it's very vanilla. It's a nice chill game don't get me wrong. But I'm not gonna have funny flying around fragging or playing with friends.

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>flight model
>space dogfighting
>plenty of depth
cameheretolaughatyou.jpg

as long as it's fun I don't really care

100 systems seems very unrealistic based on what they've released

but MAYBE if it's actually successful and people keep playing it they'll reach that in 15 years. MMOs last a long time

>>384566441
it's more like a mix of air and sea battles when you add in the bigger ships. Of course it will have depth because it's a video game with lots of mechanics and weapon types not a literal flight simulator where you have one gun and two missile types

>>384564157
It took them 5 years to realise the scope of their project was so unrealistic that they had to cut it down by 95%

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WTF!?

You know what's sad? When i see this, all i realize is the game has only been in development 5 years, it's not as bad as I thought. There have games with much smaller scopes in much longer development hell. Not really a defence. Just an observation. Your still a fucking retard for preordering a game before development fucking finished, or some dumbasses here before it even started.

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>>384567162
>buy 15 000 dollar ship in preparation for epic space adventure between hundreds of star systems and thousands of planets
>dev decides to spend their money on coffee machines and sliding doors for their office instead
>suddenly you're only able to fly between 4 planets
>by the time all the shit they originally promised comes out (if ever) everybody will have ships just as good if not better than yours

I'm happy with Elite Dangerous, glad I didn't get scammed by Robert Scammer Industries.

Still, it's a pity that there are so few space games.

>>384567393
>>by the time all the shit they originally promised comes out (if ever) everybody will have ships just as good if not better than yours

Or, more likely, nobody is even playing anymore

Is it too late to get a refund?

>>384567654
we just had Battlefront and Battlefront 2 coming this year

>>384567716
How are the Battlefront games similar to a space faring game like Elite or SC at all?

>>384567761
its star trek

>>384567716
You know space sim doesn't mean just any game set in space right?

>>384567874
you know you cant read?

>>384567654 literally said
>Still, it's a pity that there are so few space games.

SPACE GAMES

>>384567716
battlefront 1 was shit and 2 is going to be p2w though

>>384567979
Yes, I meant games where you control a space ship in a simulation manner, hold your tits there.

>>384567979
I have a learning disability pls no bully

>>384568062
>>384568085
>>384568113
literal retards

>>384568159
>getting angry because even tough the topic at hand was obvious you decided to shit the bed

>>384567371
their biggest problem seems to be that they have no idea how to expand their studio despite having the funds to do so
shits running like a shitty little indie hole in the ground but it could be an absolute behemoth if they knew how to manage personnel and budget correctly

If this game failing (and it WILL fail, nothing can avert this at this point) doesn't cause regulations to be passed to make crowdfunding scams like this harder to get away with and protect those who back projects like this better, I'll fucking eat my hat. This game is the poster child of crowdfunding and it's going to get a LOT of attention when it fails and Chris Roberts and co. try to sneak away with the money scot free while CI collapses behind them. and they better hire bodyguards or something with that money because I seriously don't think they will be safe after this shit implodes. Like seriously with the amount of money some people have put into this there are going to be death threats and attempts on this fuck's life.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I understand that they've abandoned a bunch of promises (which shouldn't have been made in the first place). But it's in the name of making a better game. You can't have a game try to do everything, with it also being particularly good at any of it. That said, Star Citizen better be really fucking good at what it sets out to do with these revised goals.

>>384568568
This shit happens all the time with non ctowdfunded games desu. It has nothing to do with CR trying to scam anyone. Google development hell.
>>384568330
Sure. But i don't even know if that would help this particular project. A lot people end up sitting on their hands waiting on others.

>>384567393
>by the time all the shit they originally promised comes out (if ever) everybody will have ships just as good if not better than yours

In real life.

>It only took.it 6 years and 100 million for them.to.realize it was too big

And people still defend it
Oh.lord this is a cult alright
Kek

>>384565776
I watched The Room for the first time a few daya ago and listened to the Disaster Artist audiobook.

I feel enlightened, like the veil of reality has been pulled from my eyes.

>>384569505
I did not fall for Star citizen. I did not. I did not! I did NAWT!

Oh hi Mark.

>>384568085
>you control a space ship in a simulation manner
So basically KSP and orbiter.

>>384569354
>And people still defend it
When it was discovered they were getting a massive loan people were saying it was a good thing because "banks don't give loans to failing businesses" despite that literally being how banks do hostile takeovers.

>>384569728
>they were getting a massive loan
What the fuck? $150m and counting isn't enough for a space sim? Lmao

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>>384565776
>kickstarted in 2012
>promissed 100 star systems on a 2014 launch
>ff to 2017
>only 25% of the FIRST star system is done
>0,25% overall done
>IN FUCKING 2017
And yet people keep tossing money to that scam

>>384570263
Well, Robert needs vacations! And million-dollar cars! It's totally not him spending the game budget on frivolous shit for his own pleasure, he legitimately needs that to deliver the greatest space game ever, anon!

>>384570263
I'm currently saving my income for another 15000 ship, that should help them to get those systems done faster

Star Citizem is a dream game, you pay for the game and then dream about it, that's what you paid for.

>>384570341
Legit question Anon, is he really doing that?

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>>384565776
I want this game to be a success I truly do, but I have no intention of giving them money ever before the game was ever complete.

>There are people still thiking that Star Citizen will ever come out.

>>384570609
Pre-ordering a game is one thing, pre-ordering the promise that maybe a game like this and that will be made is a whole other thing. How did kickstarter even take off at all? It's so easy for the project to end up wasting your money.

I wouldn't mind if it's like putting down $5 for a copy of the game whenever it does come out or something like that as well as having access to the beta or demos and such. But people are putting down hundreds and thousands of dollars on empty promises.

>>384570847
They are paying for dreams, when you pay for the game you feel like you own it already, so you fantasize a lot.

>>384567654
I love/hate ED, and personally couldn't be less interested in Star Citizen.
However, I do very badly want SC to become all it can be, just so Braben and his chimps would have to get off their fucking asses and make ED all it can be.
Considering what SC has to show for over half a decade and literally hundreds of millions of dollars, though, I guess FDev will just keep coasting on the crest of being the only space sim with a budget around.

>>384570502
Disclaimer: The source of those claims is Derek Smart, who has a long history of hate for this game, and Chris Roberts in general.

According to Smart, Roberts has an extremely high salary, along with things like a personal chef, stylist, speech coach, and other things, paid for by the company's dime.

His wife has also been using the company's equipment and property to film her own private projects unrelated to Star Citizen.

Again, this should be taken with a grain of salt, but Smart has it all fairly well documented and laid out with sources. Up to you wether you want to believe it or not.

http://dereksmart.com/2016/06/star-citizen-fidelity-of-failure/

>>384570407
God speed anon

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>>384565776
Also >mfw schadenfreude while watching this disaster.

>>384565837
>wanting a video game to be good
I think you're on the wrong board, friend.

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>be inna discord
>reading one of the admins going on and on about how cool scam citizen will be
>tell him it's going to be shit and it's a scam
>him and his assmaster get anally aggravated saying they've been watching the game since they funded it many years ago and the scam company is trying to push gaming forward whatever the fuck that means
>they go on to say they're happy with what they can play right now even though they've given the company more than 1000 dollerydoos each
I knew I was right

>>384572030
There are pictures on the internet with their million dollar coffee maker and the custom 100k doors they used in their offices. Theres even pictures with him (i think) on his new luxury yacht. This is not from some guy who hates him and the company

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>>384565776
Feels good man.

>5-10 star systems
>space game
Can someone explain this bullshit? How is that a space game?

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>>384564157
Alright, I'm in for ~50$, how do I most efficiently bail out of this shit? Do I ask for a refund? I'm in Europe, quite sure there are laws that give me the right to a refund since they are not delivering the stated product. Do I just sell my shit to some sucker? Could probably get more than a refund with the LTI and shit.

Mods, please don't allow misinformation shitpost threads. This autist op is getting annoying.

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>>384572441
>discord

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>>384572942
Planets aren't space. If you want planets play literally any other game, they all take place on planets. SC is a true space game, just like space it is a whole lot of nothing.

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>>384565776
feelsgood

>Reduces scope

>picture implies they're done with the game now before even finishing one solar system, but is barely even readable

Did you retards even look at the picture?

It's meaningless, how stupid and contrarian can you people possibly get?

>We could be having Freespace 3
>Instead we have scam citizen coming out never ever

Just play No Man's Sky, there are quintillions of planets to explore
Also updates are being released regularly

>>384573558

If you mean it implies that because development is so fucking slow & delayed that it will never come out within our lifetime because CIG are a bunch of retards, then yeah.

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>>384565776

>>384573034
>Mods, please don't allow misinformation shitpost threads. This autist op is getting annoying.

explain. most of us don't give a shit, we are here to point and laugh.

>>384572030
Thank you Anon

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>>384565776
So good, boss

>>384573034
>misinformation

Game should have released and be completed already, you got scammed, nobody is spewing disinfo here, you're worse than a whore that pays to get fucked instead of charging for the fuck.

>>384564157
This is virtually the biggest vidya/pc project of all time. Why does /v/ want it to fail so badly? Is it just salty console mouthbreathers and poorfags shitposting in these threads?

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>>384565776

>>384574336
I play on pc, I don't want games to fail but I don't like to get scammed.
I didn't get scammed in fact and I saw the failure from a mile away.

>>384574310
They seem to be doing a pretty shit scam if the game is actually in development.

>>384566292
>>384566173
>>384565493

Honest questions: What do you DO in elite? I played it, I played it for a while but then I realized there's nothing to fucking do except fly to one end of the galaxy, pick up some cargo, fly to the other end of the galaxy, turn it in, but a slightly shinier ship, repeat. It's a screensaver.

I'm looking forward to seeing the game get finished eventually and play it when it's done. And none of you can change that.

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>>384565776
Feels good man

>>384574545
The game was supposed to be finished in 2014, however only 0'25% of the game is completed in 2017.
You may wanna call this development, but I like to call it selling demos at the price of diamonds.

>>384574689
Seems to me CR has no idea how to estimate release dates but that doesn't make the game a scam, does it?

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mfw I will never pull off a massive vidya scam

>>384569505
Yeah, The Room is so much better if you've read Disaster Artist

>>384566758
In that case then the depth doesn't really come from the difficulty of combat then does it?

Aerial combat in flight sims is heavily reliant on skill

>>384564157
LOL remember pat contrary put a few hundred into this.

>>384574790
Do you think they can pull this on a reasonable time at this rate of working speed? Be serious.

>>384565776
A few of my friends did but they got out with their refunds before the ship hit the iceberg.

>>384574792
>stalk forums
>learn what people think they want
>work on some simple visual prototype so people think you can do it and that it's "nearly done"
>start a crowd funding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc

>>384565493
>tfw if they just made actual questlines that had decent payouts so beginners could start decent progression and get reasonably immersed before autismgrind begins, made engineering not RNG, and added some sort of "long jump" FSD charger from stations that gave you like +100ly range for free so you can hop around the bubble faster and aren't spending 2 hours going around scooping stars and then selecting the next jump 20ly away over and over the game would be literally perfect

>>384565776
feels good i fell for the PUBG meme and the game is 99% complete

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>>384575075
>PUBG

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>>384565776

>>384564157
>/v/ rallying behind a mentally unstable nigger
My sides.

>>384574985
What's a reasonable time for you?
Myself I don't see this being properly playable before 2019. Playable, not released.

>>384575374
Bits and pieces have been playable for a long time so I'm not sure what you mean with playable.

>>384575374
It is playable if you want one planet and a small area, the problem is that by 2019 it will be three planets in a small area still.

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>>384575137
at least its better than fucking arma or h1

*shrug*
id rather it be scaled down and playable in a year than it dragging on in early access for 10
rn i cant even play that shit, its not a game

shitpost all you like, but like i preordered the cheapest package possible and got 2 games for it, and i just want to play

>>384575524
It's only better if you're one of those shitter kids who arma wasn't the intended audience anyway. Stay in your containment game.

>>384575601
arma 3 sucks a dick anyway

i owned 2 and 3 are never play them, walking autism simulators

The real universe took like hundreds of thousands of years to be made into what it is today so I don't really think a couple of extra years is too much to ask for to create a virtual universe with this insane level of detail.

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>>384575524
h1z1 had way more potential which is why i supported i t
but they jewed out last minute and sold company to a chinese publisher and ruined the game completely

PUBG h as no potential, its a china farm game thatll go nowhere with its success

>>384575075
The map is trash and poorly designed, the optimisation is horrendous, the netcode for close range fights especially is awful and desync in general with servers are quite bad. It's so fucking easy picking out people who have no experiences with these types of games prior to PUBG because somehow this pile of shit flies as "99% complete" when the fucking MOD made by the same guy is still a more complete and better playing game than his standalone release.

Which is the same as the DayZ situation

>>384575413
>>384575464
What I think the game needs, for me to play it more than just checking out the latest patch is

All ships are flyable, not just the fighters and some freighters.
Be able to buy all ships with ingame currency.
Be able to earn ingame currency through multiple ways.
Stable servers that don't fuck with your fps.
Persistence of everything.
Instances working.
Instances with player limits of at least 3 digits.

>>384575785
this. the only advantage pubg currently has is it's a lot smoother to get in and out of games. aside from that it needs to work on virtually all of its components, it's far from complete and it's a long way away from being better than the mod

>>384565735

Is /v/lancer still going?

those other 95 systems were probably full of sour grapes anyway, i didn't even want them

>>384575719
>PUBG h as no potential, its a china farm game thatll go nowhere with its success
it already has way more content coming than kotk though

also didnt know that about h1z1, that sucks by the game engine is ancient and it shows
>>384575785
no problems with netcode in aussie servers

>>384575785
PUBG was a mod first? of what?

>>384564157
FAKE THREAD. THE PIC IS FAKE
FAKE
FAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

>>384565493
My main issue in elite is how fucking long it takes to make decent money and being able to fly cool ships

They keep nerfing all my good smuggling areas

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>>384575683
>Insane level of detail on Copypasted Space station: The game
You got me man I fell for it

this kinda shit is why vidya needs regulations like every other industry
they are literally selling people air. This is not even snake oil tier

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>one lonely russian hobbyist manages to make trillions of photo realistic planets for free
>large team of professional scamm.. I mean game devs can't even make a couple of solar systems even after gettin over a hundred million dollars

LOL KEK ROFL LMAO

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>>384570847
kickstarter for boardgames is doing amazingly

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>>384565776

>mfw I didn't buy it but I bought into the hype and watched videos with my best friend who's dad had just died and he ended up spending some of his inheritance on the game.

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>>384576251
Eh, there's a small difference when you don't go for fully procedurally generated.

>>384575894
the game engine is way better than pubg's
and h1z1 has had more content added to it since launch than like any early access survival game out there, its just they got jewed off to some china corp and have been forced to make jew content since

>>384576340
oh wow another bullshit video of shit that isn't in the game yet

where do i give my CC#

>>384576340
that looks exactly like a SE planet though except with shittier draw distance

>>384576251
I don't remember space engine having multiplayer. Or any gameplay to speak of.

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>>384576513
I see.

>>384576290
Really? Any examples?

>>384576626
Bullshit. That's not ingame footage.

Just another trailer trying to get your shekels.

>>384576340
So what do you do on that empty planet? Fly around and jerk off? I already did that in Elite and got bored of it in 30 minutes.
WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST MAKE FREELANCER 2017

>>384576340
Look at all that nothing on the moon!

Truly a masterpiece that will keep me entertained for hundreds of hours.

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>>384565776
Watching it all slide further and further into shit is fun.

>>384575979
Dayz: Battle Royal i am pretty sure for arma 2

>>384576912
these people have been giving chris roberts money based on shit that isn't in the game for years, i don't see why they'd stop now

>>384576340
Are you telling me you can land literally anywhere on that fuckhuge moon?

What point does it serve? It's impossible to provide handcrafted content for it so it's going to be some randomly generated "crashed ship" mission or "ore deposit" isn't it?

>>384576398
h1 has

>no scopes
>no gear levels
>no gun customization
>shitty hit detection
>runs and looks even worse than PUBG

>>384577097
HEY every rock is hand placed with care! The least you could do is admire the craftsmanship.

>>384576894
literally hundreds

and those 20% that get funded. actually deliver within the year.

there are way more boardgames in most funded then video games

>>384576340
Even fucking No Man's Sky has more interesting planets

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>>384577335
This is accurate, whatever we see in trailers have always been improved upon and expanded by using a systematic approach instead of the canned demo versions in trailers.

>>384577435
No I mean like can you name one or two? I wanna check them out and see what's up. Sounds pretty neat for new board games to be crowdfunded there.

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>>384565776

>>384577467
ahahahaha

sure, buddy, whatever you have to tell yourself

>>384577547
Not him but there are both hobbyist and larger publisher board games being kick-started. The Dark Souls board game comes to mind as one of the latter.

>>384574464
What do you mean scammed? Who got scammed and how? You say you saw a failure from a mile, but the game hasnt been released yet and what they have shown so far in demos has been promising. Obviously, the game takes so long to develop due to its ambitious and enormous scope. If this game was funded by normal means, the publisher would have forced the devs to release it already, in a half-assed and rushed state, and it would have been your typical bare bones, generic, piece of shit, open world, multiplat "goty" that /v/ would eat up and never shut up about.

The way I see it, if the game fails, too bad, but if it succeeds all the better for us.

>>384576894
Not that anon, but here's a few from the tip of my tongue:
* Kingdom Death Monster
* Santorini
* Dark Souls TBG
* Lisboa
* The Others: 7 Sins

>>384569505
How is the movie adaption of Disaster Artist?

>>384577740
>>384577693
Thanks anons.

>>384577740
>* Dark Souls TBG

Is that the Dark Souls of board games?

>>384577547
those that are out right now.

terraforming mars
scythe
the tiny epic series
santorini

(dark souls got one)
most funded ever is now in the top 4 of most funded things ever on kickstarter which is
kingdom death

>>384577710
>the game hasnt been released yet
Nor will it be, yet you paid for it.

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>>384565776
Fuck that

post yfw you haven't given any hack on kickstarter a cent.

>>384577859
i mean you usually play boardgames against each other.

All jokes aside, where has the 154 million literally gone? This reduction is a fucking joke. If I had backed this, thank the heavens I didn't, I'd be fucking pissed beyond belief

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>>384565776

>>384564157
mentioned this thread to the lads on elysium

>>384578152
restoration hardware furniture, space doors, coffee machines, trips to monaco, half a dozen salaries each for chris and sandi

you know, the usual sort of expenses a video game has

>>384576290
This is 100% true. Exploding Kittens, and it's expansion Imploding Kittens kickstarter. C'huthulu: A deckbuilding card game also kickstarter. Both really good games.

>>384577740
>Dark Souls TBG
It is actually really fucking good at that. Expensive, but good.

>>384565735
>Make sure he lives. He owes me some credits.
Trent was such a pussy before the game started (read the journal), but man he really developed some stones after the attack.

>>384576894
Kingdom death is pretty great

You can even play it by yourself if you want because we both know how many people you have to play it with

>>384578386
also available for pirating on tabletop sim if you dont wanna spent 400 bucks on a boardgame

>>384574575
The goal in Elite games is to reach Elite rank, and there's different pathways for that.

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>>384578029
I don't like to think about the amount of money I wasted on kickstarter projects.

At least the non-video game ones gave me tangible products.

>>384565776

it was so fucking obvious

>>384578029
i spent 1800 bucks on kingdom dead

i could probably sell it all for double that when i get it all though.

>>384573558
>barely even readable
It reads just fine you dumb phoneposter.

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>>384565776

>>384575643
Literal child

>>384575867

I think there's a few guys still playing, but it's almost non-existent at this point

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>>384574575
that kind of gameplay doesn't entertain me. ive done it back in elementary school pic related.

>>384575643

underage b&
you need to be 18 to post here

>>384577964
I didnt pay shit. Are amerilards incapable of grasping the concept of buying a game after it has been released?

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>>384565776

>>384578761
i just never really got into arma or bohemia's games after OFP, everything felt too similar.

youngfags dont know about muh ofp

>>384565880
>>384566010
>>384574030
>>384574210
>>384574226
>>384574634
>>384576058
>>384576267

FUCK OFF back to >>>/r/eddit with your fucking newfaggot filenames.

fucking summerfaggots

>>384578867
fuck off underage ive been here since 2007 and im 26

>>384578371
I sure hope he pounded that asian pussy.

>MISSING IN 3.0
kek

Anyone who thinks SC is a scam. What would make you believe that it's not a scam and will be release eventually?

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>>384565776
How many millions are they at now, /v/?

>>384579279

100 scamzillion

>>384579001

>repeats my insult which indicates a lie according to science
>"been here" since 2007
you would've said "lurked here" if it was true

now gtfo summerfaggot

Chris Roberts is a hack, but to be fair they initially we're going for 100 Star systems when the Kickstarter started and had no plans of fully rendered planets, meaning they would just be set dressing anyway. Not defending their obvious poor management but in terms of actual playable area little is lost from this.

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>>384579012
What the fuck happened to von Claussen?

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>>384565776

>>384579430
im older and ive been here longer than you

fuck off kinopleb back to reeddit digg 3.0

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>>384565776

tfw all I want is fucking No Man's Sky with less grinding and Ansel support

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>>384565776

>>384569505
literally r*ddit

>>384579226
they would have to do basically everything differently from the very start, so unless you have a time machine sitting around it's a bit too late to worry about making star citizen look legit

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>>384565776

Anyone want to join a class action lawsuit? This is pretty much fraud and failure.

>>384579941
man i will just give you two dollars

'cuz that's about all the participants in a class action are going to get

>>384564157
>Star Citizen Reduces Scope by 95%
is actually
>Star Citizen Reduces Scope of latest update by 95%

You should write healines for Kotaku, OP

>>384578925
I actually agree with this guy, I loved OFP but I never could get into Arma.

lots of anti sc shilling but to what end?
can any one explain why some people dont want sc to succeed?

>>384580071
it was going to have 100 systems at launch and now it's going to have 5

at launch. not in the next update

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>>384580163
its just arma felt too familiar for me.

zombie mods where cool tho

>>384580234
The community is also a lot worse for Arma.

>>384580163

You should try ArmA 3 heavily modded with a community that specializes in milsim, if you enjoy that kinda stuff.

ACE & CBA are great mods + RHS mods that add about 600+ currently relevant weapon-systems including tanks and vehicles.

>>384580385
I might look into it, after being disappointed with Arma 2 I never bothered to even buy Arma 3.

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How long until the pyramid scheme finally collapses? It can't go on forever.

>>384580596
It's not a pyramid scheme because the people that bought into it are not selling anything.

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>>384580487

>I never bothered to even buy ArmA 3

>>384580596
>>384580706
He's right, it's a Ponzi scheme.

I'm really happy about this, I haven't backed it but I've followed development on and off and the fact they're doing this makes me believe I might actually get to play this game soon.

Besides, 100 systems with scale planets would play identically to 5-10 systems with scale planets. You'll still never explore everything even in the reduced scope version.

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So, any words on how the backers feel about this shit?
I dont want to go around and say its a scam but it sure as shit looks like one, how can you get 154 million and deliver pretty much nothing?

>over 100 million dollars, 150 million if you include a bank loan they supposedly got
>actual evidence that the developers have bought outrageous shit since receiving that money for game development such as a 100k coffee maker and 250k sliding glass doors
>people defend them to this day
I don't understand

>>384580932
they're doing their best to convince themselves that this is actually good for star citizen

so, the usual

>>384580898

The reason they did it is because they made the planets way more detailed than they originally planned to.

>>384581223

Bullshit, have you seen the video of the procedural generation? One of the latest videos posted by them, after the Engine Trail video

CHECK THIS OUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p696daOap78&t=13m16s

fucking engine trails, are they fucking serious?

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>>384565776
Watching it crash and burn at launch will be beautiful

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>>384581121
>250k sliding glass doors
This can't be real

>>384581528
It's okay when EVE online does it.

This whole thing is beyond my comprehension. How can a logically thinking person give money for such failure project ?

>>384581121
Even if you were outfitting a hundred cafeterias or offices, how would you spend 1k on a coffee maker? 100k on coffee makers for a single office sounds like someone's embezzling.

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>>384565776
All i got from it was a Golden Ticket

>>384581528
passing off a feature that other games have been doing for years as something unique and original is a cornerstone of CIG's marketing

it works because apparently none of the backers have played a video game since 1990

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>>384581591
>Watching it crash and burn at launch will be beautiful

what launch, anon ?

>>384581591
/v/ keeps saying this for years but they keep developing it and releasing updates

it may take years more to finish but the butthurt will be incalculable

>>384581721
Never underestimate the gullibility of whales.

>>384581121
wait what? I know about the expresso machine and paying some dude to teach them how to use it but whats the deal with the glass door? any images of it?

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>>384582196
it's not a glass door

>>384582029
well, i'll prepare my anus for devestation sometime in the 2030s

in the meanwhile, you're a joke

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>>384567162
>game has spaceship progression system
>pay $15k USD to start with the biggest ship in the whole game right out the gate
>"WTF this game is so boring, woow!"

Why are people this retarded

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>>384565776

>>384582291
250k for that?

>>384582751
no, no one knows what it cost. probably not $250k but i'm sure it wasn't cheap

>>384582291
Is it at least blast resistant and able to withstand whatever vacuum pressure amajig in space? Because $250,000 for a stylised regular sliding door is fucking hilarious.

>>384564157
hahaha, so instead of star citizen, we're getting s... .......

>>384582398
d-does this mean I can play the game normally and unlock the coolest ship after a year or so and then sell it for $10k?

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>>384565776

>>384577556
REMINDER not to fucking buy the wolf tickets they're selling your for MayMac

>>384584760
yeah, sure, there's no way the value of ships can ever go down

>>384567707
No.

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>>384585256
What if Star Citizen ships become the next big cryptocurrency? Maybe in 5 years you can sell a ship for millions of dollars???

>>384585743
in that case, the smart thing to do is buy as much as you can right now while you can still get in on the ground floor

>>384568805
They haven't stopped trying to do everything at once. This cut down pointless patch is them trying to do everything failing and having to release a patch or the funding will dry up. At no point has CIG had a deep look at the game and cut things that are not working or not feasible.

>>384585878
Ok you have convinced me! Goodbye savings!

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>>384565776

>>384578957
>unironically being triggered by filenames

>>384582076
How can you be a fan of something that isn't even out yet?

Spent 30€ or whatever the basic package was that gave you SQ42 and SC access. I hope it succeeds, but if it doesn't I can live with it.

The development sure as fuck isn't ideal, they've increased their scope way too many times, apparently no one can tell Chris no to whatever fuckhuge feature he wants and while their art is pretty and detailed, we know nothing about the gameplay beyond flying ship and an average FPS mode.

Still I hope it does come out and becomes a good game, if for nothing else than to show others that you can make something that isn't a recolored clone of CoD/GTA/AC/[generic open world game]

>>384578957
>muh secret club

Wew lad
Maybe get your boyfriend to fuck you in the ass more. So you wouldn't have to be so constipated all the time.

>>384587017
apparently it only costs thirty thousand dollars

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>>384565776
>there are people that actually spend thousands of dollars on virtual ships

>>384587017
>blaming the Jews for your small penis

The world's first AAAA game. For better or worse.

>>384575867
No, the author does other stuff now.

>>384588931
If Kingdom Hearts taught me anything, it's that S comes after AAA. And adding an X to name makes it cool.

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>>384565776
I stopped believing Chris Roberts after the Wing Commander movie

>>384577824
Not out yet, only a trailer. Seems good so far.

>>384587787
>Spent 30€ or whatever the basic package was that gave you SQ42 and SC access. I hope it succeeds, but if it doesn't I can live with it.
Same here but I think it was 20$. I've had my share of fun with the dogfighting module so it wasn't a complete waste of money, but still.

I'm amazed how people are still pouring money into this crap after all the delays and broken promises.

>>384589351
Gamers are, bar none, the most retarded consumer group in the world.

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>>384588850
Good goy, defend us online for free!

>>384567162
So like do people have to apologize to Derek Smart now cuz he was right after all, the whole thing's been a giant pyramid scheme to make the CEO's company insanely wealthy, while putting out a super minimal amount of content stretched over enough years that nobody would sue and eventually just forget about the game.

>>384589458
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

>>384567371
I would feel bad for the devs or the players who wanted this to see its scope reduced so drastically, if not for the fact that the devs offered a $15k digital spaceship for sale that didn't exist, and some of the players actually fucking bought them and expected any return on their investment whatsoever. Like jesus christ just buy a nice ship in EVE at that point, if you just want something cruising through space on your desktop while you file taxes or something.

>>384588991
he works for bethesda now or something

>>384589449
>still waggling your small penis
man if I never got laid, I too would bitch aboot the Jews all day like the loser you are

>>384580164
>anti sc shilling
you genuinely believe there are people itt being paid to shittalk SC?

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>>384589758
Sounds like you're obsessed with cocks. Try not to project your sph fetish onto other people, sweetie. Nobody was talking about Jews until a le happy merchant reaction image triggered you, pumpkin.

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>>384567393
for $15,000 you could probably get a really fucking incredible real model spaceship built for you in the real world

Frankly this is killing whatever interest I had in the game originally.

Space dogfighting games are all roughly the same and the only thing that could have made this one particularly interesting was the player interaction in a massive living universe.

Might as well go back to Elite now if it weren't such a ridiculous grind for the most basic shit.

>>384589924
at least I'm not obsessed with Jews, that's cute sweetie maybe you should get triggered when some anon says you have a small penis

>>384568568
There has been at least one previous case of Kickstarter creators being forced to pay out for not delivering, I think it was in Washington. The lawyer who handled it said it should be taken more seriously in other states as well.

>>384589762
what, you think it's more likely that people would just laugh at star citizen for free?

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>>384565776
Feels so good man!
ha ha ha

>mfw I fell for MN9 so I can't laugh at anyone

>>384585646
I thought they were originally not letting people get refunds? Or did their stance change?

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>>384590483

>>384568805
>you can't have a game try to do everything.
>I initially backed this game because I had been told it would do everything.
??

>>384590492
their TOS says no refunds but they cave in the minute anyone insists

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>>384565776
Haven't fallen for a kikestarter yet.

>>384564157
Everyone who's surprised by this has to be clinically retarded.

Everyone who still defends this is downright subhuman.

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>>384588735
>there were people who actually spent thousands of dollars on virtual currency

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>>384564157
>STOP LIKING GAMES IM TO POOR TO PLAY

>>384564157
dorgas mano

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>>384592373
You can actually do things with crypto other than fly around in an unfinished game.

>>384590053
If you're not obsessed why do you keep bringing them up, cupcake? I know you have a weird fetish for having your dick size humiliated but projecting it onto other people whenever you get triggered by meanie memes is even more autitistic than just having a retarded fetish like that. Cock obsessed jews are weird.

>>384593103
point is, buying a SC ship is an investment

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>>384589758
Oh hey it's you.
Daily reminder that the JQ is more and more widely known about every day and that day of the rope soon.

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>>384593184
An investment akin to backing Worldcom or Solyndra.

>>384593106
> I still have a small dick

Fixed. I win you lose you're fat

And some people in /v/ are still shilling/defending for this shit. Maybe go out more. Sunshine is good for you fucks.

>>384593106
Nah, probably a woman. Their only arguments are virgin or small penis. It is toddler level argumentation so just ignore it like you would a kid throwing a tantrum.

>>384593635
sunshine is the number one cause of skin cancer you fucking liar

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>>384565776

What is it with this and Star Citizen? 95% of this thread is piss-poor baiting. /v/ is pretty much the only place where you can't talk about this game.

I don't think any other game gets it this bad.

>>384593705
cuz blaming the Jews makes more sense, just fuck off to /pol/ with our worthlesss small dick

>>384567162
>Buy the finished game for 15k real dollars
Do people really do this or it's just the devs wet dream?

>>384593903
Well we had to dial back 95% of the game discussion

>>384593730
No, having skin is the number one cause of skin cancer. We skeletons never get skin cancer.

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>>384565776

>>384593184
>investment
you will never see any returns on it. so no, it isnt an investment, its a donation to a company.

BTC on the other hand, you can at least use to buy drugs on darknet markets.

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>>384593184
>point is, buying a SC ship is an investment

i sure can't wait for magic patch 3.0 to come out and prove all the naysayers wrong

>>384564157
HAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAAHAHA

I love star citizen so much. Scammed retards and a lolling con man shitting in their mouths. I hope everyone who backed Star citizen gets cancer and Chris Roberts retires a billionaire.

>>384567393
They've stated time and time again that buying the ships for an advantage is retarded and that it won't even matter anymore within a few weeks of launch.

>>384597995
>launch
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAH

>>384593903
>/v/ is pretty much the only place where you can't talk about this game
i know, right? no one on spectrum or /r/starcitizen ever tells me that i'm flushing my money down the toilet

Anyway I'm leaving this thread, even thinking about star citizen which is just a big scam is a waste of time.

Thanks for the laughs OP. see you in 6 months when we reach more failure and can laugh at the scammed again.

>>384578152
iirc they spent like 200k on a table

>>384580171
>impying its ever going to launch

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>>384565776
Freelancer is still my most beloved game though

>>384567393
you could have a month worth of top tier escorts for that price. What are these faggots thinking?

>>384578152
Mark Hamill
Motion Capture at a hollywood studio
Building their own Mo Cap studio afterwards
4+ studios
Building their own studio in California with extremely expensive furniture and amenities (to sell after bankruptcy to pocket the money)
new homes for CR.
etc

He put his wife in a big position just to give her an insanely high salary and take even more money.

>>384598503
Is Chris Roberts - Inafune of the West?

>>384572030
>>384589458
Smart is a smug autistic twat but it's hard to deny that he's been more or less on the mark in calling CR out as a scammer.

not that Smart's games are any better but still

>>384598427
Too bad I was too young to get an escort with Ava Devine in her prime and now that I'm old and rich enough, Amy Anderssen had a breast reduction. Maybe another a new favorite porn star will come and start escorting on the side soon.

>>384564157
Where did this picture come from? I don't see anything about this on the star citizen website, I'm not a shill I'm just wondering where the picture came from.

>>384599467
Anybody have a source or is this just bullshit?

>>384599467
chris told this to a german gaming magazine in an interview recently

he didn't tell the backers directly because star citizen has the most open development ever

>>384599768
Link to the magazine?

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>>384565776

>>384599467
googling text verbatim only finds /ribbit/, so this might be a newsletter to some of the backers.

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>>384565776

>>384599938
>googling text verbatim only finds /ribbit/, so this might be a newsletter to some of the backers.
Well where is the word for word interview though is my question, I'm just trying to figure out whether this is just bullshit or not

>>384599847
don't know where to get the magazine itself, but have this:
https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/885958545170202626

>>384599768
>chris told this to a german gaming magazine in an interview recently
Got any facts to back this up?

>>384600197
gamestar, august 8th issue

>>384581121
Go home Derek Smart

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>>384565776

>>384600154
>don't know where to get the magazine itself, but have this:
>gamestar, august 8th issue
We need to find the actual wording from chris saying this, until that I'm not believing a single fucking thing from /v/