Dragon Ball Fighter Z roster prediction

kid goku when
roshi when

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caulifla

From last thread.
>>384544886
No. Goku will always be the hero.
Gohan didn't kill cell. Gohan (with the help of a instant transmission Kamehameha from goku) killed Cell.
Every major villain was defeated by goku.

>>384545118
Bingo

>>384544706
trailers on friday.

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>>384545185
You can't be serious

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>>384545185
>Gohan didn't kill cell

>>384545250
Confirmed or speculating? Because I expect that, but I haven't heard anything official.

>>384545185

Goku wasn't actually there anon. It was symbolic. Goku was only with him in spirit.

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>>384545118

>>384545252
I wish I was joking.
Can you list major villains Goku didn't defeat?

>>384545185
Reminder that Gohan would have jobbed if it wasn't for Vegeta

>>384545352
Sure he was.that's why Gohan went on to be the hero of DBZ after all that.
Oh. Wait.

>>384545418
Cell

>>384545418
Vegeta

Cell

Buu (on his own)

>>384545563
and Trunks killed Frieza

>>384545418
Vegeta, Cell, Beerus, Hit, Zamasu

>>384545440
Except that he took a hit that would have killed Vegeta before that.

>>384545563
>Vegeta
Goku's Spirit bomb.
>cell
Goku "symbolicly" We all fucking know he It'd into that Kamehameha shot a Kamehameha with gohan.
>Buu
Only goku knows how to use the Spirit bomb.
>>384545606
>Mecha frieza
Wasn't a major villain anymore. He was a gauge of power. a non-threat.

>>384545331
Speculating. Maybe they'll do something for SDCC.

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This is the most realistic roster so far. This considers realistic size, marketable characters, and unique moveset potential.

>>384545890
>We all fucking know
only your autistic headcanon knows

>>384545890
>Goku's Spirit bomb.
That krillin and gohan used, Goku was out of commission because Vegeta fucked him up.
>goku "symboicly"
irrelevant, because it was actually Gohan that killed Cell. Goku didn't actually do anything to cell.
>only Goku knows how to use the spirit bomb
And that changes what, exactly? He needs help to make the spirit bomb.

>>384545696
>Beerus
Antagonist not major villain.
>Hit
Beat him later when Goku contracted Hit to kill him.
Also not a villain Antagonist.
>Zamasu
He beat Zamasu multiple times. and even though I really wanted someone else to beat someone for once I found it in poor taste that Trunks subconsciously learned how to pull off a spirit bomb and somehow instinctively mold it around a broken sword. And that somehow has a effect on a god when nothing else did.

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>>384545118
>dissing 18

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>>384545923
good minus: Videl, Broly in base, and all the Super stuff as DLC

>>384546295
Super will easily get in as DLC but i would see it not getting into the base game.

Beerus isn't supershit either and videl is fine.

>>384545118
>When your post is in the cap
Feelsgoodman

>>384546052
>That Krillin and gohan used
Yet instructed by Goku and those two wouldn't have lived through the day if he didn't make it in the first place. Goku beat vegeta. Notice how Vegeta doesn't have a grudge against Krillian and Gohan.
>irrelevant
So you didn't read the rest of the sentence. Got it.
>He needs help to make the spirit bomb.
Which he managed to pull energy from fucking grass of all things.

>>384546395
Goku didn't beat Vegeta. Or Cell, Or Buu (on his own)

Sorry gokufag.

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Replace with Kang Piccolo

>>384544706
I Know this is mostly focused on DBZ but will they add some characters in from the original DB? Budokai games did that.

>>384545923
>saibamen are in the game
aw ye

>>384546463
I didn't say he did. But he was the hero.
The driving force behind their defeat if not the person who deals the finishing blow.

Hell Trunk's spirit sword has Goku's energy in it if we want to get into that level of fuckery.

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>>384546295
>not wanting Broly

>>384546580
As Yamcha's level 5 super. Saibaman jumps up from behind the enemy for an unblockable. It hugs both Yamcha and the opponent together before blowing up dealing massive damage to both of them and both of them lying in Yamcha's death pose afterwards.

is vegeta just the prince of assists?
hell, in the saiyan saga he arguably got an assist on himself due to the fake moon

>>384546680
>BROLY'S HAIR ISN'T GREEN YOU GUYS
I wonder where that faggot is now.

>>384546463
Also I ain't no goku fag. I would love for someone else to be the driving force behind the defeat of a big bad for once but it never is. Toei Love goku too much to let anyone else have any lime light.
>>384546680
Just like last thread. Broly is terrible with the worst back story and motivation in the history of the franchise.

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>>384545118
I almost didn't come into this thread but now I'm glad I did.

>>384545418
Goku

>>384546784
>Broly is terrible with the worst back story and motivation in the history of the franchise
Wrong.

>>384546784
>Broly is terrible with the worst back story and motivation in the history of the franchise.
This is true from a story perspective. However. He's always a blast to play as and that's what matters in a fighting game.

"lmao i'm a cat who loves food"
"i'm a fatter cat who also loves food! aren't we so random?"

"i'm suffering from severe muscle atrophy but i'm the prince of all saiyans"
"i'm female goku"
"i'm female broly"

Super has such wonderful unique and well thought out characters

>>384544706
Sure man, the characters I want in are Ginyu, Devilman, Kid B-
>because Super shit isn't getting in
Oh, I mistook this for an actual discussion thread, my mistake.

>>384545923
>Both 17 and 18

>Unique moveset potential
>Ultimate Gohan
Did he really do anything special? I don't remember anything.

>>384546816
>Goku
He put himself in endless purgatory of the dragon's body until the end of time in GT.
>>384546829
>wrong
WAHHH, GOKU CRYED TOO MUCH. MUST SMASH GOKU. Nah mate. It didn't pass last thread doesn't pass now.
>>384546861
>However. He's always a blast to play as and that's what matters in a fighting game.
Broly always has super armor and super armor is rife with faggotry for fighting games.

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>>384545923
>only picture provided of Videl is her jobbing it

well at least it gave me a boner

>>384544706
>Super shit isn't getting in
Where does this idea come from? It is because Z is in the title?

>>384545923
Videl?

kys

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>>384546680
>mfw Broly gets a unique finisher animation where he lariats people into the buildings and mountains in the background instead of them just flying into them alone

>>384547023
Is Spopovich a slav?

>>384546982
>Not realizing every fighterz thread you see are just shitposting about waifushit and super

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I haven't fapped to Android 18 in years but I did tonight. Brings back old memories.

She's pretty much confirmed right?

>>384547019
>WAHHH, GOKU CRYED TOO MUCH. MUST SMASH GOKU.
Ahh yes another retard who didn't pay attention to the movie and just posts meme tier generalizations.

>>384547056
Yes

>>384545923
>Realistic
pfffffhahahahaha

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>>384546360
There has to be at least some super shit since Frieza goes golden already. So i can see Super Saiyan Blue Goku (hopefully not as a separate character,I don't need to be dealing with 7 different versions of goku again) and Beerus for sure.

>>384547196
Everyone's seen the movie. It's trash. Broly doesn't even care that he got stabbed, just angry at Goku for crying.

>>384547259
>So i can see Super Saiyan Blue Goku
The best you'll get is a color palette for Goku. Same goes for Goku Black.

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>>384547259
>There has to be at least some super shit since Frieza goes golden already.

Beerus is getting in though

>>384547196
I remeber something about Paragus having a reason for wanting to kill Vegeta but that mattered not to Broly. Don't continue to try and push that traumatic life shit you have as your head canon.
If he was really pining over the stabbing he would have immediately went ape shit when he saw Vegeta. Which he didn't.
Paragus had a good reason for his action and trauma. Broly did not. Get over yourself and your shitty head canon you spilled all over the last thread.

>>384547462
>stabbed and tossed into a gaarbage heap as a baby
>LOL NOT TRAUMATIC DOESN'T COUNT LMAO
God damn you guys are dumb.

>>384545923
>3 Gokus

>>384547259
resurrection of F is a Dragon Ball Z movie. Was released before Toei decided to make a Super anime.

>>384547517
You're unironically defending the plot to Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan. You're the dumb one here.

>>384547547
Gokus are just functions if you think about it.

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>>384545923
Lose: Ginyu, Adult Gohan, 17
Gain: Dabura, Saiyaman, Dabura

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>>384547547
Lel
I dont disagree

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>>384547398
Goku black at least can stand out since Zamasu is shit. Unless they do fusion Zamasu which I'd be okay with. Honestly I don't want THAT much Super stuff.

>>384547434
if you go by this then Beerus is still good to go

>>384547627
Why'd you list Dabura twice? Or at all, really. He's boring.

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>>384547673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghGjIfYoHJk

>>384547517
He saw who stabbed him and I'm more than sure in the 20 or so years of hitchhiking across the galaxy with his dad that his dad would tell him who stabbed him and what he looked like. Probly the whole reason Paragus made the plan to kill vegeta. But no. Crying equal the man who stabbed him.

Nah Nigga. You dumb. Quit pushing your head canon that absolutely nobody else is buying.

>>384547673
>Beerus is still good to go
Yep. So is SSG and SSB.

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>>384547434
>Resurrection F movie
>MFW I bought that on DVD for 50 cents at a friend's yard sale and it was still factory sealed

Dude had 2 fucking bins worth of movies on DVD/Blu-Ray he had at his yard sale(he does storage unit buying where he sell contents from them for a living since he's retired). Shits so cash.

>>384547965
>So is SSG and SSB
Nope. The only people to use them are already in the game.

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>>384547434
It's crazy how much Super ruined these movies

People now hate these arcs because they think of the terrible Super versions first instead of the movies that reinvigorated the series and were responsible for Super even existing

>>384547965
Super Saiyan God is such a shit, throwaway "Transformation" if you can even call it that. it's not even a super saiyan. Hopefully it doesn't appear.

Dragon Ball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT and Dragonball Super are all shit and made for hyperactive little boys to gossip about at school.

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>>384548215
>Goku and Vegeta get 2 slots

well, better than like 6 each

>>384548239
The movies were already shit.

>>384548340
Or gossip about on 4chan. I'll never stop being a hyperactive little boy at heart when it comes to DBZ.

>>384548358
>Thinking ANYONE will get more than 1 slot
Not even Gohan is getting another slot as much as faggots want him to. People really need to realize that there won't be a situation where a character can get assisted by themselves.

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>>384548279
One of the things i appreciate about the manga is that SSG is actually something they go back to. For some reason the anime refuses to touch it despite being a recolor.

>>384548595
It's called locking the slot, even kiddie games like Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm won't let a character assist themselves.

>>384545501
He was, for a time. But either due to fan weariness or Toriyama's own assessment he decided to bring Goku back as the lead. No joke, Gohan was the main character for the start of the long running Buu saga. It was in Toriyama's fragile head at the start of that saga to have Gohan defeat Buu as well but at some point felt the guy didn't fit as lead.

Some people point to fan popularity polls that were done at the time as influencing Toriyama's thinking but no one knows for sure. Gohan had dropped off the top 5 in popularity. He'd lost every fight in the arc to that point (pre Ult. Gohan v Super Buu) and I guess the fans back then judge such things harshly.

As an example he was the most popular cast member as he was murderizing Cell.

>>384548215
Yeah and?
Sol Badguy has a transformation in Guilty gear.
You telling me Goku and Vegeta couldn't Transform to SSG or Blue during battle?
Fucking Frieza can go Golden, Why can't they.
>>384548279
It is. just throwing in there for shits.

>>384548595
What if two people are playing with a Captain Ginyu on their team and one of the Captain Ginyus switches with another character from the opponent's team and now the one dude has two Captain Ginyus.

>>384548712
Maybe, but they haven't shown it off or announced it yet and Vegeta uses nothing from Super, be it moves or appearance. Goku uses his BoG uniform, though.

please no super characters in this game

>>384548673
>It's called locking the slot
You forget who's making this game. There's no possible way they would spend the resources on a character only to have them be inaccessible if another character is picked. Have people forgotten how they make these characters?

neogaf leaker told we're getting SSB Goku as separate clone

he also said Piccolo had Hellzone Grenade, he's probably lying

>>384548979
>neogaf leaker
okay.

>>384548979
That better be DLC a year from now. It'd be a shame to see a clone this early in its life. Unless it's Super Manga Goku then I'd be fine with it.

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>>384544706
>Super isn't getting in
>Literally thinks Namco and ark will miss out on this opportunity
>Thinks Ark won't go for waifus in super
>Delusional

>>384550054
On top of that, this all stems from "Z is in the title, so only characters from Z will get in"
Despite the fact that GT characters were in tons of games with Z in the title.

>>384550054
Super doesn't have wayfoos.

>>384550054
Anti super fags are the worst. They don't want super just on principal alone. They'd rather have Dodoria or Raditz instead of Zamasu or Hit just because they are from Z even though both Zamasu and Hit have excellent potential for unique moves.

>>384545185
>Gohan didn't kill cell. Gohan (with the help of a instant transmission Kamehameha from goku) killed Cell.
SUPERFANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS

>>384545185
Are you seriously trying to ruin one of the hypest moments in DBZ by saying Goku did it?

>>384550323
No. Toei believes this since you appearently can't have Dragon ball without goku

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>>384545185
>Gohan (with the help of a instant transmission Kamehameha from goku) killed Cell.

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>>384550483
Toei had Trunks do this
Toyo had Goku handling Merged Zamasu on his own.

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>>384544706
My prediction for the Dragon Ball FighterZ roster:

Goku
Vegeta
Teen Gohan
Trunks
Piccolo
Krillin
Tien
Yamcha (btfo roshi and satan fags. Yamcha is a shitdog but atleast he has a movelist. Yeah he's irrelevant nowadays but who other than goku and vegeta isn't?)
Gotenks
Vegito
Freiza
Cell
Kid Buu (he will replace Fatfuck buu once he is scrapped)
Dabura
Android 16
Android 17
Android 18
Raditz
Nappa
Beerus (as the special guest character)

Screencap this!

>>384545118
Seriously though /a/'s shitposters are flooding into these threads like wildfire. They need to go back

>>384545185
>Gohan (with the help of a instant transmission Kamehameha from goku) killed Cell.
There's no way people ACTUALLY believe this. I've hear some stupid shit before, but this is beyond retarded.
>Mystic vs SSJ3
>Vegeta SSJ2 before/after Majin
>Gohan SSJ2 against Dabura
>Gohan has healing powers
>Broly is MAXIMUM
>Movies fit into timelines
>Kid Buu vs Super Buu
>Mystic vs Gogeta
>Goten is Goku Black
>Gohan is Goten's father
>Yamcha is a good character
All sorts of backwards shit, but this is next level stupid.

>>384550595
Yet Goku wins the day by whistling for Zen-o to fix the problem. If he didn't do it the main universe would have been wiped along with the future one.

>>384545118
mods really need to crack down on generalfag shitpost spam.

>>384550782
You really telling me that he didn't do it? I'm mean he clearly fucking did it in the Second Broly movie and he almost gets called out on it.

>>384550782
Broly's first movie fits into the timeline but there are inconsistensies, like Vegeta being with the cast and Goku/Gohan not always being SS.

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>>384545923
>Unique moves
>Adds ginyu whos only gimmick is body change.
>DLC Bardock, Zamuasu whos only gimmick is the KI blade which black has as well.
>Wants lame zamasu instead of merged

Fuck off

>>384550595
At least what Toyo did is consistent with what makes Goku Goku while Toei wanted a "Power of Friendship" ending.

>>384550647
/thread

>>384550920
I've always assumed the movies had a different flow events leading up to them, minus Cooler, Bojack, and Wrath of the Dragon.
For Broly, what I thought, was Trunks and Vegeta managed to kill Cell before he could absorb 18.

>>384550647
>Nappa
>Radditz
>16
>but no Roshi or Satan
Lel.

>>384550906
>I'm mean he clearly fucking did it in the Second Broly movie and he almost gets called out on it.
No he fucking didn't. Goten literally wishes for help in the 2nd movie and Shenron makes Goku appear. The only time Goku used IT from Heaven was in the Bojack movie.

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>>384550281
Zamasufag and hitfag are shitty characters. Raditz and dodildo are also lame but theyre still much cooler than the super cunts.

>>384551147
Broly would take place before the Cell Games, not after.

>>384551158
>Satan as more moves than nappa and 16
Fuck back to gameseeker and neofaqs

>>384551214
I can't fucking wait for her universe to be deleted.

>>384551251
But if Trunks and Vegeta killed Cell before he could absorb 18, the wait for the Cell Games wouldn't happen.

>>384551147
>For Broly, what I thought, was Trunks and Vegeta managed to kill Cell before he could absorb 18.
This. Broly isn't supposed to fit into the timeline, literally only 2 movies are, and that's Bojack and Wrath of The Dragon.

>>384551289
Don't reply to waifufags baiting with shitposts

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>>384550595


>YFW Merged Zamasu is the final boss character in the story/arcade mode.

Like Super or not, he'd be amazing for a fighting game.
>Ki blades
>Exploding energy spears
>massive fireballs
>Can hulk out, gaining stretchy goo-arms and being big as fuck.
>Smug cunt.
>Green and purple color scheme

>>384550647
>Nappa
>Raditz
>No Roshi
>No Mr. Satan
>Not liking the superior Fat Buu, the only good Buu.

>>384551337
that's the point anon, Broly and Perfect Cell don't happen in the same timeline. Broly and Hatchiyack do, however.`

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Anyone else hoping to see Kid Goku?

>>384545923
as long as Kid Buu's in the game, I'm happy

>>384551362
The first Cooler movie could fit with very minor adjustments.

>>384551465
Me.

Kid Goku with the Power Pole and The Great Saiyaman should be the only alternate versions of characters.

>>384551465
Not necessarily. I'd be fine with him, but I mostly don't care.

>>384551465
He would complete my "Team Smol"

>>384550659
/v/ is just as bad as /a/ when it comes to this series

>>384551426
I think you meant Cell and Hatchiyak, since that movie opens up with saying they're waiting for the Cell Games to start

>>384551609
/a/ is a lot worse.

>>384550659
Fucking this

>>384551469
>very minor adjustments.
The Cooler movie came out 18 days after Trunks premiered in the manga, it's extremely beyond likely thatthe movie was planned without Trunks in mind, so it takes place in an alternate reality where Goku defeats Frieza and returns with Gohan.

It would need a few adjustments to fit, but I wouldn't say it should.

>>384551630
That's a special, not a movie. All specials are canon (Excluding the bardock ss one). Movies are not Canon unless it's BoG or RoF.

>discuss movesets faggots because Super shit isn't getting in
Super shit already IS in with Lakers Frieza. They're GOING to add more, this a golden marketing opportunity for Toei.

>>384551609
There's more NTR talk on /a/. Basically the only difference though despite what others will insist.

>>384551630
Yeah but Goku compares Hatchiyack to Broly's power, I believe he also does that in the original, not just the remaster.

>>384551746
See
>>384547434

>>384551826
See:
>this a golden marketing opportunity for Toei.

>>384552069
That doesn't change that Golden Freiza is from a Z movie and isn't from Super.

>>384545185
>Gohan didn't kill cell. Gohan (with the help of a instant transmission Kamehameha from goku) killed Cell.

DB rep: Kid Goku
Movie rep: Broly or janemba
Super rep: Hit or leave it at Golden Frieza because he is a Z character but he still reps Super
GT rep: Gogeta or Omega.

This pleases everyone, no?

>>384551742
I don't think it Plan to Eridicate the Saiyans is canon at all since it was made solely to promote a SNES game

>>384552216
1000 times no

>>384552138
You can argue that until you're SSJ Blue, but the main point is that there's no way in hell they're not including fighters from their currently airing show.

>>384552330
Promoting an SNES game in 2010?

>>384552216
The Parapara brothers should be the GT reps.

>>384552392
I never said they weren't going to add super characters, I just told you that Freiza is from Z, not super.

>>384552402
That special came out WAY before Raging Blast 2.

>>384550647
>Raditz
HAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
Other than this, ur list is good

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>>384552138
>He is from Z
>How so?
>Cause Battle of gods was a Z movie
>But it's a movie you retard meaning it's not canon so super is the official canon arrival of Golden F
>No it's not BOG and F are canon cause reasons

These guys are delusional, so much so that they are bending stuff to make it so they can convince themselves that super characters won't make it in...

>>384552498
>These guys are delusional, so much so that they are bending stuff to make it so they can convince themselves
You just described every /v/ argument

>>384552498
BoG and RoF are canon becayse Tori said so.

>>384552216
>No janemba or meta cooler/ transformed cooler
>They said no to Tao think kid goku will make it in

no

>>384552330
Like every other movie(by toriyama's own words) they are an alternate dimension. Mangafags aside, that practically means it's every movie is canon, they just fit into a different timeline than the main story.

Depends on your definition of canon.

>>384552498
>debut was a Z movie
>lol doesn't count because not canon it's super
And this would change it being from RoF, how exactly?

>>384552613
Proof?

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>There are tons of games titled "Dragon Ball Z: Subtitle" that have GT characters
>There are people who think Dragon Ball FighterZ won't have Super or OG DB characters because "muh Z at the end"

>>384552670
>No janemba or meta cooler/ transformed cooler
But I listed Janemba in the spoilers, and if it's Janemba vs Cooler, Cooler probably won't make it in.
>They said no to Tao think kid goku will make it in
They "had" to deconfirm one character that could have potentially made it in. If we get anyone from Dragon Ball it's going to be Kid Goku because he has the most varied moveset. Roshi can't fly OR use nimbus, and King Piccolo is literally just Piccolo with less moves.

>>384551214
Of all the many, many mistakes and mishaps that Super has made, nothing upsets me more than that they made a female clone of Broly, but named some other chick cauliflower. How do you fuck that up?

>>384552498
The debut was in a Z movie before Super was even a thing. It's from the movies you idiot.

>>384552839
This. What the fuck is a kale, anyways? Everyone knows cauliflower is just white broccoli. Kale is like the retarded cousin that no one cares about.

>>384552898
Kale is closer to cabbage than anything, so by that logic she should be a female Nappa

>>384544706
>3 classes
>can only take 2 of the same class into battle

>Bruiser
Goku | Yamcha | Roshi | Cell | Android 16 | Nappa | BROLY
>Skirmisher
Vegeta | Krillin |Trunks | Freiza | Dr. Gero | Captain Ginyu | Beerus
>Tactician
Gohan | Tenshinhan | Piccolo | Majin/Kid Boo | Gotenks | Dabura | Zamasu&Goku Black

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>>384552808
>Roshi can't fly OR use nimbus

Who fucking needs nimbus or fly aroud like a retard?! Turtles are the new trend!

>>384552839
I don't see what the relation between Cauliflower and Broccoli is, and Kale is still a vegetable
R63 Broly is only there as a joke, and is getting eliminated from the ToP in the same episode she starts doing shit

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>>384552884
>super is the official canon arrival of Golden F
Movie is not canon. Let me repeat myself since you are slow.......IT'S NOT CANON~

His canon debut is super. Cry all you want retard.

>>384553065
It's painful how accurate this is. Everything worth getting excited about happens once and then is gone. Only thing that has remained from that criteria is SSGSSJ+K x10. But that's literally just cheating since the writers couldn't think of a visual tell to represent power growth.

>>384553008
Krillin is already confirmed for Tactician, and Gohan is not a Tactician, he's a Bruiser.

>>384553151
BoG and RoF are canon. Super retelling them doesn't wipe them from existance or make them not canon. You can keep doing mentsl gymnastics to argue this bullshit all you wan't but it isn't going to work.

I'll amuse you. Why are BoG and RoF suddenly not canon?

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>>384553065
>I don't see what the relation between Cauliflower and Broccoli is
they look the same

>R63 Broly is only there as a joke
This is why Kale was not shown as a LSSJ for the manga art, she's just a normal SSJ with green hair.
FemBroly is literally just a Toei joke so fans can get hyped.

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If they don't have this pose for Yamcha after he gets killed by a super in this game, I'm going to be disappointed.

>>384553512
>Yamcha
>in this game
Anon, I....

>>384553512
Attack of the Saiyans does this. Oh Monolith, you so crazy.

>>384553379
Broccoli and Cauliflower are actually the same plant, just bred specifically for certain parts

Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kale, Cabbage and Kohlrabi are all cultivars of the same species.

>>384553532
Why'd you just post a white square?

>>384545118
Needs pics of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F covers since they get posted every fucking thread.

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>>384552750
This. Cracks me up every time

>>384553512
Doesn't he have it as an attack in XV?

>>384553151
Actually they are somewhat. Super's BoG and RoF arcs are just retellings of the events from the last two movies. Yeah super added in some new stuff but they don't really add anything that would make the movies seem any less canon. If you wanted to you could just watch the BoG and RoF movies then start watching super after those events.

>>384550595
APPARENTLY
I
HAVE
HAKAI

>>384554223
>Goku hears about it
>Figures how it might work from martial arts ingenuity
>Actually uses it
>It barely works because he doesn't understand how it works
I dunno, seems fine to me. Would have been real bullshit if it succeed in killing Zamasu outright.

Does ArcSys even do joke characters? People keep saying Satan will get in because we NEED a joke character, but he's a complete wasted slot with 0 fucking moves aside from that gameboy shit.

I'd take Arale over Satan any fucking day, and I would take any other character over a joke character.

>>384554003
what cracked me up as a kid was when I realized nova shenron wasn't in the game and it was just that ugly piece of shit.

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>>384554456
Hola.

>>384554456
Would Bang Shishigami count as a joke character?

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>>384544706
MULTI-FORM??????

>>384554760
DUDE. I didn't actually notice that until you said it. Bout fucking time, god damn.

>>384554760
Turns out it just says after image. Saddest morning ever.

>>384555006
>>384555023
meant 4 u

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>>384555096
Profound sadness...

>>384554760
I thought that was a Tien thing anyway

>>384555420
It was but everyone has had a shot. Just changes the name to triform. I just like the name multiform

Piccolo
Tien
Cell

>>384550647
>majin buu
>getting scrapped
are you fucking retarded?

>>384554456
They always have joke characters like >>384554540 They just make viable joke characters.

>>384553151
Autism in its purest form

>>384545923
>No Mr. Satan
Shit roster, shit game, dropped like a rock in the middle of the ocean.

>>384544706
I better be able to plant Hellzone Grenades around the enemy to limit their movement and literally zone them into a limited space.

>>384559467
>GG_Venom.webm

>>384553595
>Yamcha not in this game
Anon, I.....

>>384560228
>Only 3 moves
Anon, I......

>>384562314
>Goku has 4 kamehameha's
>They have made moves out of nothing for Cell and Future Trunks.
Anon, I...

>>384550647
I agree with this, but I'd put Ginyu instead of Raditz.

>>384545185
>being so much of a retard that you're having trouble to understand Dragon Ball

wew

>>384563027
Ginyu's a one-trick shitter, anon

>>384563451
Not if they go Captain Commando style with him.

>>384562676
>out of nothing for Cell and Future Trunks.
>thinking that Yamcha will get in over characters who don't need made up moves for a majority of their skill set
>thinking that they actually made up moves instead of taking one or two normals from previous games, Yamcha would need to be majority made up/stolen
Anon, I......

>>384551630
So does Broly's movie. They just took that bit out of the dub.

>>384545923
Nobody wants Janemba. Or Zamasu for the most part. Why is the roster limited to Z and Super? Kid Goku and Arale would be much better choices.

>>384545923
No Champ No buy

>>384564282
>Kid Goku and Arale would be much better choices.
Janemba has more moveset potential than both Kid Goku and Arale combined.

>>384564282
>Nobody wants Janemba
nigger I do

>>384564282
>Nobody wants Janemba
>Most techniques
>Best techniques
>Perfectly fits the criteria to make it into the game
>thinks Kid Goku or ARALE has more of a chance
Not even yamchafags are this stupid.

>>384564282
t. ningen

>>384545068
Is this seriously a character part of the dragonball series?

What the fuck? People are okay with this cringey kiddie shit?

The only people watching "Super" are very young teens who weren't alive to enjoy Dragonball and DBZ during their childhoods.

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>mfw I was excited to play as Gohan only to realize that Stephanie Nadolny isn't voicing him
>he no longer has any redeeming traits

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This is Goku's level 7 super say something nice about him

>>384565790
spirit bomb

>>384550659
lol these threads were always shit because nostalgiafags would non-stop complain about super and start arguments devolving the thread into bickering

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>>384553065
>and is getting eliminated from the ToP in the same episode she starts doing shit
nope

>>384565226
I wouldn't be surprised, they seem to actively shit on dbz and dbzfags. I have major problems with Super but I still get some enjoyment out of it and I quickly learned how shitty the fan base is in just a couple months.

>>384544706
What are their stats, anyway? I can't read moon.

>>384566009
>lol these threads were always shit
/a/ threads are infinitely worse.

/v/ threads have DB fans that play games.
/a/ threads are literal otaku weeabu daikimakura fags who also like DB.

>>384566421
>green
Power: 3
Speed: 2
Reach: 4
Technique: 4
Energy: 3

>bald
Power: 2
Speed: 3
Reach: 1
Technique: 4
Energy: 4

>>384566451
t. rebbit

>>384566543
>Krillin
>Reach: 1
Ha, he's short.

afterimage sounds sick

I hope you can choose the direction and which one is the real one to mix up the bad guy

but if it's just a move to counter and punish, that's still pretty fun

androids 19/20 would have more interesting gameplay
androids 17/18 were jobber and sexbot

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>>384566092
>Kelly

>>384566568
t. lonely fat loser that faps to lolis

>>384566991
>androids 19/20 would have more interesting gameplay
toppest of keks. 19 maybe, 20? lolno. They both have less than 16, and we know 16 isn't getting in.

>>384562676
Most of the moves from cell and future trunks are in the manga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl5CDWyV-lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-uzab0lgXw

SSj4 Goku will be in the game

>>384567938
>there are people who think we WON'T get a GT rep
It's going to fucking happen.
>B-but non-canon!
>B-but "broad range of fans" doesn't mean anything!
>B-but "unique characters" doesn't mean anything!
>T-the producer lied!
>P-pedro!
Can't wait to fucking 1v3 kiddies with Omega shenron.

Honestly, the only character from Super that should be considered at this point, is Hit, before he is announced, no one else should really be questioned.

He has the 'look' of a real player in DBZ, has a direct method of powering up (increasing time control length instead of, say, SS numeral), he's at a considerable power level already, and his fighting style would be unique in a series that struggles for diversity in that regard.

This isn't counting Bills or Whis, I consider those primarily movie characters.

That said, I don't think Hit will be in on release, I think he'll be first wave DLC.

Leave the OC Waifu arguing for after the couple of obvious Super-inclusion ice breakers actually happen.

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>>384551465
>ArcSys putting in this move

I don't think I could handle it

>>384564786
>>384564809
>>384565125
>>384565136
Janemba is a third rate movie villian with nothing unique but his teleport and his sword which Trunks had. He was just an excuse to have Goku/Vegeta fuse. Zamasu's doesn't really bring any new moves unlike Goku Black. Meanwhile Kid Goku has the power pole, his tail, creative eays of using the Kamehameha, afterimage and over 100 episodes of material to pull from. Arale, too. She fits the bill of powerful gag character and would be a little tank, but have no access to any sort of projectile.

>>384568445
>Honestly, the only character from Super that should be considered at this point, is Hit,
What about Rose black ?

>>384567938
>>384568156
This isn't that type of game. Why woulf we get SSJ4 beyond an alternate costume if we don't have forms as seperate characters? And Omega Shenron is generic and brings nothing new to the table. Not to mention GT has been downplayed in recent years outside of Heroes.

>>384568768

That's actually a strong maybe, considering it might save them some asset time so it might only take 60% of the effort as a normal include, but I still wouldn't even consider it until Hit is announced.

My argument is that you shouldn't consider Super characters at this point, until Hit gets mentioned. It's like asking about Cooler when Brolly hasn't been mentioned.

People should talk about who is likely to get announced next/ first wave DLC. A waifu who MIGHT be like fourth wave DLC isn't really worth talking about, even if you're a fan.

>>384569213
>And Omega Shenron is generic and brings nothing new to the table
He has the techniques of the 7 shadow dragons

>>384568621
>Kid Goku has the power pole, his tail, creative eays of using the Kamehameha, afterimage
>melee weapon with double reach
>Frieza and Cell have one too, so does Janemba
>Creative ways that Kid Goku never used it in? He used to to launch himself a couple of times, adult Goku is the one who used it in 10s of ways.
>A technique that Krillin already has in game
So nothing unique aside from the power pole, which is just Piccolo's arms reskinned as a weapon.

Janemba has:
>Matter manipulation(can turn a club into a sword)
Sword stance by proxy
>Enemy cloning and mimicking techniques(copied Goku firing a Kamehameha and shot it back at him)
Counter move
>Cloning himself
>Portal teleportation(Bunkai)
Goku, Cell, Majin Buu, Cooler, Janemba. These are the only fighters who can teleport.
>Teleportation counter(Bunkai)
Counter ki blasts while doing the Bunkai
>Fighting with his portals
Punching through his portals for cross ups
>Lightning Shower Rain
Unblockable
>Mouth Blast
Beam Super

Arale:
>
that's it.

Goku Black:
>Ki blades
>Cloning
>Kamehameha
Maybe I'm missing something, benefit of the doubt.

>Janemba is a third rate movie villian with nothing unique
>nothing unique
It's funny how you state this when Kid Goku literally has no unique moves. He fights with a stick that was given to him, he copies the kamehameha, and he copies the afterimage.
>B-but muh Kamehameha variants
Like fucking one and he just boosted himself in the air with it. GT Goku had a delayed damaging kamehameha and a red kamehameha, that's already more unique than a launching kamehameha.

>>384569563

Janemba is my favorite non canon villain, but dude wouldn't be considered until the fucking sequel, at minimum.

>>384569649
>Janemba is my favorite non canon villain
Respect.
>dude wouldn't be considered until the fucking sequel
>>PG: Is there a chance more obscure Dragon Ball characters will see some representation in the game (even as DLC), or will the roster focus exclusively on the more popular characters?
>>TH: Popularity of a character is of course an important factor as well, but since DRAGON BALL FighterZ is a Fighting Game, we are also choosing characters based on whether or not the characters can fight uniquely and deliver the excitement we want to display in the game.
>>> we are also choosing characters based on whether or not the characters can fight uniquely and deliver the excitement we want to display in the game.
Compared to Kid Goku? Yeah, he has a much higher chance.


https://www.primagames.com/games/dragon-ball-fighterz/feature/dragon-ball-fighterz-interview-tournament-support-character-selection-and-more

Goku
Kid Goku with GT Alt Costume
Vegeta
Piccolo with King Piccolo and Nail Alt Costumes
Teen Gohan
Adult Gohan
Krillin
Yamchua
Tien
18
17
Frieza
Cell
Kid Buu
Fat Buu

DLC
Master Roshi
Chiatzu
Nappa
Cymbal
Mr Satan
Videl
Granpa Gohan
Lunch
Android 8
General Tao

>>384569979

I actually still, really disagree

Kid Goku was the protagonist for a LONG time and there's more you can you do with the pole than you're allowing

However, I will say that the only two 'alt' characters I really could see happening are Kid Goku and Mystic Gohan, I'll consider Janemba higher than most others after that.

>>384570405
There's no way Kid Goku won't be in it.

>>384569979
We understand Janemba is your favoritest character from your childhood, but he isn't notable at all because he is one of the most mindless and generic villians. Broly and Cooler are the only characters from the pre battle of gods movies that matter and that anyone remembers. Meanwhile, Goku as a child is iconic and Arale has her own series and makes frequent appearances in Super, plus she even appears in the manga.

>>384570369
I think we'll only get one version of Cell and Frieza, their perfect forms with a Golden Frieza being an alternative costume for Vrs Mode and Powered up Boss fight in story mode.

I Also forgot to add Beerus and Whis to the list of launch characters.

>>384570369
>DLC
>Chiatzu
>Nappa
>Cymbal
hahahahahahahahhaha

>>384570614
I think Janemba is going to be in the sequal with Lord Slug, Cooler and Broly.

>>384570713
How Silly of me, I meant Tambourine

Reminder that if you prefer Nappa over Hit you are retarded

>>384570614
Janemba is a movie character, furthermore he's gotta compete with b-list villains from the main series like Dr. Gero as well for a spot on the roster.

>>384570614
>but he isn't notable at all because he is one of the most generic villians.
That's completely wrong simply going by the fact that out of every villain in Z, bar Cell, he has the most unique moveset. Generic in personality, combat wise he's on top of most characters in the entire series.
>Broly and Cooler are the only characters from the pre battle of gods movies that matter and that anyone remembers
Fusion Reborn had the higher box office than Return of Cooler.
>Arale has her own series and makes frequent appearances in Super
She also has literally no techniques or fighting style. Satan has a higher chance of making it in, same with Jaco.

You're delusional to ignore statements from the producer and insist that characters with little moveset potential will make it in over characters with great potential that the producer clearly says she wants.

>>384570984
>compete with b-list villains from the main series like Dr. Gero
Yeah, Gero didn't fight at all in the manga, so I assume he also didn't in the anime. He has a head popping attack, eye lasers, energy absorption, and running away as his skill set. He has no normals, and no rush combos to turn into a special. He has no chance of making it unless they rip his moves from the older games, and at that point, 16 brings more to the table than he can, and they have much more source to pull from with 16 than Gero.

Not arguing Janemba here, just saying Gero isn't relevant in terms of making it on the roster. Even 19 is more likely.

>>384571282
>Gero didn't fight at all in the manga
he fought, he just never landed a fucking hit, useless ass.

>>384570931
>pikkon with time freeze
>better than nappa
okay buddo

>>384570734
I wouldn't be surprised if Broly is in this game, due to sheer popularity. Come DBFighterZ 2 and 3, I will welcome Janemba and even more movie, GT and Super material.
>>384571078
>Literally has no moves or style
So you haven't ever seen her, I gotcha. You're gonna be disappointed when Janemba isn't in. The only non BoGs movie material that is very likely is Broly.

>>384571857
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug
go watch the nappa fight again
compare it to hit's
come back

My roster

Kid Goku
Kid Goku (GT)
Teen Goku
Goku
Goku (heart virus)
Angel Goku
Kaioken x 10 Goku
Kaioken x 20 Goku
SSJ Goku
SSJ 2 Goku
SSJ 3 Goku
SSJ 4 Goku
Giant Ape Goku
Baby Goku
Gokuroly

>>384572015
>So you haven't ever seen her, I gotcha.
What fucking moves does she have? Her fight in Super literally copy and pastes her 2 attacks she used in DB against general Blue, and she did a mouth ki blast.
Where are her normals? Her specials?
Maybe you have scans from Dr Slump that show she actually has more than 2 physical attacks?

>The only non BoGs movie material that is very likely is Broly.
Do you only base the roster by popularity? Do you consciously ignore what the producer said?

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>>384566092
>Goku is fighting the Pride Troopers with actual fighters while Gohan is babysitting the jobber squad

HAH

>>384572269
this is a joke post but a fighter with just every different Goku would be amazing

>>384572667
Relevance and moveset potential. I mean, Tapion or Bojack would be neat, but they aren't relevant and are low on the list to be included on a limited roster. And Janemba is around their levelnof relevance.

>>384572897
>Tapion

I think everybody would just rather pretend Wrath of the Dragon never happened.

>>384572269
You forgot False SSJ Goku, and Ascended SSJ Goku.

>>384573005
>just rather pretend Wrath of the Dragon never happened.
Why? It was the best DBZ movie by a long shot.

>>384573089
The entire thing is awful, no good fights, awful designs for the new characters, shitty adult Gohan and Videl taking center stage.

It's only slightly better than trash like Return of Cooler and Bio Broly

>>384572269
I main Heart Virus Goku

>>384572269
SSG Goku
SSGSS Goku
Kaioken SSGSS Goku
SSJ Goku after absorbing the power of the SSG
Farmer Goku
Zamasu Goku
Zamasu Farmer Goku

>>384573235
>no good fights
The movie was about the story
>awful designs for the new characters
What's bad about them?
>shitty adult Gohan and Videl taking center stage.
You mean the intro to the movie?
The entire plot was about Tapion and Hirudegarn being trapped inside him, and the ending was Toei Goku. I don't remember Videl doing anything aside from talking and almost getting killed at the end.

No Satan no buy

You know what the sad part is in games like these?90% of you fags wont even play this game for more than a week since most of u are casuals.I think you people just like to speculate what characters they will add...thats the only selling point in games like these...after the game is out it will be forgotten just like most of the anime games

Are we getting an English dub?

>>384573851
of course
>>384573721
WE DEMAND THE CHAMP

>>384573005
It was better than Fusion Reborn due to having a better plot. Well, the japanese version anyway, the dub adds too many plotholes. Fusion Reborn doesn't know where it is in the story and is basically an excuse to make Goku/Vegeta fuse for all of 4 minutes.

Are the 2 character introduced tomorrow Krillin and Piccolo and they just got leaked, or are they other ones?

>>384573235
>no good fights
What do you mean? The entire final fight was great. It was much better than Oozaru Vegeta, and was animated beautifully in comparison.
The entire movie focused about the story, not the depth of combat like in Fusion Reborn or the early movies. The Bardock OVA didn't have any good fights either, just Bardock speed blitzing Frieza soldiers and it's widely regarded as one of the best DBZ movies/specials.

>>384574065
>Fusion Reborn doesn't know where it is in the story
Goku explicitly states that Vegeta's been dead for a while now. The movie takes place in a timeline where Buu was defeated by either Gotenks or Gohan.
Fusion Reborn is one of the few movies that makes it painfully obvious it isn't trying to merge into the main timeline somehow, it focuses on dead Goku long after Buu is defeated in that timeline.

>>384545185
Even better, Goku never killed anybody in the entirety of Z

Kidd Buu got reincarnated, trunks killed freiza, gohan killed cell, vegeta killed most of the ginyu force, cell and vegeta killed most of the androids, piccolo killed raditz.

>>384574605
>trunks killed freiza,
No he didn't, going by your logic, if you're brought back to life in some sense of the word, your kills don't count.
>Goku never killed anybody
>Kidd Buu got reincarnated

>>384574320
>Takes place in an alternate timeline
That's fanon, the movie never states this. The movie came out when the Buu saga was running and Goku and Vegeta were dead, so they just bullshitted the story and used the "OH NO OUR OC IS STRONGER THAN (current arc villian)" cliche.

>>384574713
reincarnation is actually killing someone, and part of frieza was somewhat alive for them to be able to give him a new body

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>>384574713
>trunks killed freiza,
>No he didn't.
Goku defeated Frieza. He didn't die. Trunks killed him.

>>384558052
No, but I have hope anon...I...have...hope :')

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>still no SSJ4
GT > Super

SS4 was the perfect saiyan design, prove me wrong

>>384574971
congrats, you won the contrarian's trophy

>>384574971
Super is shit, but literally any design from the manga takes a steamy shit all over anything from GT

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>>384574971

>>384575047
alot of people like it though? even if they don't like GT

>>384574971
This. But its too bad GT was shit. Im saying that though, super's no better.

Ssj4 > Ssj red and blue > Ssj3.

>>384574971
That the only thing GT had going for it. Most of the designs on that show were top tier with baby vegeta, super 17, SSJ4, ect ect. It would be cool of they brought any of those in but it doesn't seem likely.

Only South Americans liked GT

>>384574971
I can't prove you wrong and I agree with you.
SSJ4 just looked and felt more natural than "it's super sayan, but BLUE!"
A race of savage warriors attaining tranquility and divine enlightenment? What is this horse shit?

>>384575047
That's really not contrarian at all.

>>384574808
>the movie never states this.
It implies it so much that you're a literal idiot for thinking otherwise.
Also how the movie explicitly shows us events happening that don't happen in the Buu saga?
Or the fact that Toriyama himself says that he considered movies to take place in an alternate dimension?

Only two of the movies were made to fit, every other movie takes characters from the current saga and gives them a new story based on their current powers. Please don't tell me you think Tree of Might and Meta Cooler were designed with the idea of being able to be canon to the main series.

>they just bullshitted the story and used the
How did they bullshit the story? It's an entirely new story.

>"OH NO OUR OC IS STRONGER THAN (current arc villian)"
Are you actually stupid? Majin Buu wasn't relevant in the movie because he wasn't the villain anymore. Goku and Vegeta were dead for a while(Goku himself says this) and Goku is busy in a fucking tournament.
You can't be this braindead.

>>384575347
spic here can confirm this is true

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>>384574971
>SS4 was the perfect saiyan design, prove me wrong
Alt costume SSJ4 Goku is the best SSJ4 Goku

>>384575347
I'm Ausgodstralian and i liked it.

>>384574808
>they just bullshitted the story and used the "OH NO OUR OC IS STRONGER THAN (current arc villian)" cliche.
>this is the type of person who thinks Broly actually fits into the 10 day wait for the Cell games
>this is the type of person who thinks Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan
>they breathe the same air as us

>>384575807
>people who think Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan
>they breathe the same air as us
Brb imma kms

>>384575047
>Super is shit
>GT was shit with some cool things

This is literally the most mainstream DBZ opinion.

I haven't seen Super but since GT is pretty much erased from existence, whatever happened to Uub? Goku still takes him as his student right?

>>384565226
I like Super but the fan base sucks overall. There are a lot of asspulls in that show but those things get defended to the death, like it doesn't make sense to me.

The "tingling in your back" thing to get Caulifla to go SSJ and then she immediately goes SSJ2 is the stupidest shit I've ever seen, but my friend defends that as "oh yeah Cabba is just that good of a teacher", which I find to be horse shit.

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I hope they add this obscure character

>>384576235
yes, that's still how z ends, he's even bee brought up in super

>>384576235
I dunno but I want him for rushdown badly.

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>>384575583
Seriously though, what do you guys think is better, original SSJ4 design, or this alt scheme from BT3? I vote the alt scheme. I liked SSJ4s design, but I can't say the red fur fit too much.

also SSJ4 was thought to be Golden, but they changed it to pink!red/black because those are more serious colors

>>384576446
Red fur.

They announced 3 heroes in a row, they need to announce some villains next, which ones do you want to see?

>>384576587
>they need to announce some villains next
Why?

>>384576587
inb4 literally who characters like
>Nappa/raditz
>zarbon/dodoria/Ginyu force
>16 19 and 20
>Dabura
>movie trash not named Broly pr Janemba

>>384575583

This is probably the most natural looking evolution of what a super saiyan should be. They are dudes with monkey tails that turn into giant apes afterall.

You'd think a super saiyan was a person gaining the oozaru power in their normal form.

>>384576587
>villains
I only know just realized that we have very little "villains" to get.
>Beerus(technically?)
>Zamasu(gay or black)
>Kid Buu
>Ginyu(Ginyu force as specials)
>Nappa
>Broly
>Janemba
>Omega
What other villains are there? There's little chance that Super buu makes it over Kid, but I can't think of actual villains to get.

>>384575583
>>384576446
>GT Goku with dark blue pants
>SSJ4 with gray/brown fur
muh dick

>>384550659
>/a/ shitposters
You're a fucking retard.

>>384576913
>Nappa/raditz
>zarbon/dodoria/Ginyu force
>16 19 and 20
>Dabura
I agree none of these are gettin in

>Kale isn't a Broly clone
>you can't be a clone of something that isn't real

>>384577356
To be fair, Nappa has enough to warrant a move set, and 16 has enough for normals and a few specials. He has roughly the same amount as Yamcha.

>>384576446

I would've liked this to have been the original super saiyan transformation. I think it looks and fits better with what a saiyan is. They're violent savages who turn into beasts.

>>384577356
Holy shit superfags actually believe this kek

>>384545118
Super is really dumb but DBZ has never exactly been shakespeare

DB was able to be serious on rare occasion but outside a couple notorious scenes it's pretty firmly a kids' show

>>384577573
I could see Yamcha being in easily as long as they made a simple change. Rather than being a super move, the Wolf Fang Fist could be his entire fighting style, with rekka moves, and with kamehameha for lvl1 super and Sokidan for lvl3.
16 could be in as a grappler as other's have already said, with his lvl3 being Hell's Flash

>dragonball is journey to the west fanfiction
>dragonball z is dragonball fanfiction
>dragonball super is dragonball z fanfiction

>>384577906
I agree. Yamcha's entire fighting style in the previous games(tenkaichi mainly) focused on wolf fang fist styled attacks, and his moveset consists of just a shit fuck of variations. It's definitely possible considering his lack of different moves.

I see 16 as more of a Fat Buu type. He's a power house with moves that easily close distance. Rocket punch for instance was used to close in distance in the manga. lvl5 would be self destruct.