are 2d games good enough?

>>384532801
>are 2d game inferior to 3d games?
no
>You look at old 2d game and you say that they were fun but were they fun enough?
yes and they still are, risk of rain, hallow knight, binding of isaac, etc

>The 2d metroid coming out feels like a step back, why be 2d when 3d. I know 2d can be fun , but can it be as fun as 3d?
That's like your opinion man.jpg

>>384532801
Is this 1997?

2D is great, but what I do hate is 2D games with 3D graphics. Link Between Worlds looked so ugly compared to Minish Cap for example.

people who grew up on 2D have raging nostalgia for it and still seceetly hate thevtransition to 3D.

Younger people hear from older people saying 2D/nes/etc is great and sheep into that status quo because
1. If someone older and more experienced than me says so then it must be true
2. The oldest games ate 2d therefore they must bd the best
3. Its the popular opinion to have


2d is shit compared to 3d but no one wants to admit it

>>384533109
>Is this 1997?
whats that supposed to mean?

>>384533597
>2d is shit compared to 3d but no one wants to admit it

You must be 18 or older to post here.

Sse, this is the typical noncounter 2D nostalgia.faggots resort to>>384533884

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>>384533597
>Younger people hear from older people saying 2D/nes/etc is great and sheep into that status quo because
>1. If someone older and more experienced than me says so then it must be true
>2. The oldest games ate 2d therefore they must bd the best
>3. Its the popular opinion to have

Sometimes I feel the same way, like you see people rave about ice climber, gouls and goblins, duck tales, ect

and I look at these games and say to myself,
mechanicy they are at the same level as a flash game

2d gameplay seems to limit mechanical depth

>>384534001
Nostalgia has nothing to do with it, and you know I'm right.

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>>384533884
>You must be 18 or older to post here.
24

>I've been thinking, are 2d game inferior to 3d games?

No. Anything along this line falls apart if you so much as think about something like 3D Sonic.
I don't know if you're trolling or actually stupid.

>>384534001
>>384534561
See? Nostalgia has nothing to do with it, if you are cuck for muh graphics, you're gonna be a cuck no matter the age.

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>>384534743
>if you are cuck for muh graphics, you're gonna be a cuck no matter the age.

it isnt about graphics
its about mechanics
mechanical depth
look at a 2d mmo vs a 3d mmo
the depth of the 2d mmo will be less then the 3d

ergo the question I asked, is 2d inferior to 3d?

>>384535492
>2D mmo
>mmo

For a second there I thought you were going to bring an actual reasonable topic to discuss about, but now I realize I was merely talking to a 3 chromosomed faggot.

>>384533765
When almost every series was transitioning to 3D despite some games inherently working better in 2D.

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>>384535967
>>2D mmo
>>mmo
>For a second there I thought you were going to bring an actual reasonable topic to discuss about, but now I realize I was merely talking to a 3 chromosomed faggot.

maple story vs wow

but lets drop the mmo since it seems to make you angry

how about commando/contra vs cod ?

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>>384535976
>When almost every series was transitioning to 3D despite some games inherently working better in 2D.


you see that's my dilemma
mechanical depth vs fun

>>384532801
2d and 3d are more like different genres than one being an evolution of the other. Animated and live action work the same way with the fact that it's about the quality of the content, not the presentation. Contra is a shoot em up which can be fun with its arcade style while cod is sim of army type shootouts which was good at first, but has devolved into reskined bs.

>>384532801
>Like the second you hear a game is 2d you think lesser of the game
No.

>>384533597
>secretly hate the transition to 3D
No, I'm quite open about my hate

>>384532801
2d games are absolutely good enough. Take a series like Metroid. I think the 2d ones are still better than the prime games. Fighting games are another example. A lot of the best rpgs are 2d.

I could go on but I just realized everyone reading this has already make up their mind.

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>>384537017
>No, I'm quite open about my hate

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>>384537017
>No, I'm quite open about my hate
why

>>384535492
>the depth of the 2d mmo will be less then the 3d
https://youtu.be/x4w49JFtNqg

>>384536543
Contra is way better than cod.

>>384533597
there's no such thing as 3D.

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>>384537730
what exactly am i looking at here ?
it looks like a multiplayer match of a bad smash clone

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>>384538095
>there's no such thing as 3D.
what ?

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>>384534101
>using Lum to shitpost

You kids who grew up during the 00s mostly played 2D games from flash web browsers, so it's kind of understandable you think like that about 2D games, but no, 2D games and 3D games both can be great, and both can be shit, the kind of game it is isn't really related to the overall quality.
There's a lot of shitty 2D games, I mean PS2 was plagued with 3D shovelware.
Some of the worst games ever made are 3D.

>>384532801
Its the artstyle that counts. You can have a beautiful 2d game and a shit 3d game
>Id say contra is just as fun as Call of duty yet I feel Contra is inferior. Timewise I just could never see myself playing Contra for hundreds of hours, unlike COD.
Oh this is a troll thread.
A shmup and an fps are literally nothing alike except they both have shooting in them

>>384541132
op where did you go? Did you run out of pepes?
I'm waiting

>>384532801
>The 2d metroid coming out feels like a step back, why be 2d when 3d. I know 2d can be fun , but can it be as fun as 3d?
It's not a step back. And 2D can not only be as fun as 3D, it can also easily be better.

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>>384542271
>op where did you go? Did you run out of pepes?
im here

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>>384541132
>A shmup and an fps are literally nothing alike except they both have shooting in them

but the idea behind them is the same
a soldier with a gun killing other soldiers in a modern setting
the camera changed, the theme is the same

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>>384539743
>using Lum to shitpot
>>384541132
>Oh this is a troll thread.

not shitposting just want to talk about it

You are now hearing the Contra Jungle stage theme in your head

>>384543968
The premise of a game and the mechanics of a game are different
You could make change the sprites in contra to be about two snakes spitting venom at enemy wombats who throw shit at you and it would still be contra.
Splatoon is an arena shooter like quake is, but its not about soldiers shooting each other in an arena

>Like the second you hear a game is 2d you think lesser of the game, that the developer was too poor to do 3d.
Only dumb fucks do this. Already stopped reading.

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>>384532801
>Like the second you hear a game is 2d you think lesser of the game

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2D games are better because all current display technology is 2D.
Maybe if holographic projection becomes established then 3D will finally be able to compete.

2d games
I call them tooty games because I'd rather fart than play them

You can't do many things effectively in 3D, such as merging platforming and combat seamlessly without ending up with a clunky mess, or using enemies as obstacles in general without severely limiting the level design. A lot of games from the NES era were simplistic mechanically, and derived most depth from things like level design. Once you master that, there's not much left to the games though. Contra suffers from this since it's an easy game, but there are games challenging enough to keep you occupied for dozens or hundreds of hours from level design alone. Mechanically complex 2D games exist too, Umihara Kawase for instance. Comparing CoD multiplayer to Contra is nonsense, the former is a single player game. You're sure as fuck not going to play CoD sp for hundreds of hours.

>>384533597
>thevtransition
You wanna know how I know you're a phoneposter?

>>384546987
VR headsets are effectively 3D. Yes technically they are just two 2D screens in front of your face, but our brains interpret it as 3D

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>>384546698
>Like the second you hear a game is 2d you think lesser of the game

plenty of people feel that way brah
I know I am not the only one

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>>384546586
>Only dumb fucks do this. Already stopped reading.

the buthurt is real

>>384532801
>I've been thinking, are 2d game inferior to 3d games?
No
>Like the second you hear a game is 2d you think lesser of the game, that the developer was too poor to do 3d.
Who wouod thunk tgat? Some uneducated CODfag?
>2d games feel like they come with an omen of inferiority, like the game wasn't good enough to be 3d.
Again, no.
>You look at old 2d game and you say that they were fun but were they fun enough? Why play 2d when you can play 3d.
Because in general 2D plays better
>Id say contra is just as fun as Call of duty yet I feel Contra is inferior. Timewise I just could never see myself playing Contra for hundreds of hours, unlike COD.
No
>The 2d metroid coming out feels like a step back, why be 2d when 3d. I know 2d can be fun , but can it be as fun as 3d?
Well Metroid isn't the best example because it did in fact translate well to 3D. But the 4th gen is still the best for a reason

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>>384548238
>Who wouod thunk tgat? Some uneducated CODfag?

is playing COD a crime?
There is a reason why its number
ONE !

>>384548324
>commie scum
Damn so your political views are as dumb as your opinions on games

>this shitpost thread is still alive
Why.

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>>384548324
It's kinda funny how the only real arguments against An-Cap are just strawmen.

>>384533765
When 3D was new it was the "cool" thing to do and if your game was 2D it was deemed old hat by the normie gamers that had been on the rise over the course of the decade. This was reflected in the industry, which had a borderline embargo on 2D games for years (at least when it came to consoles).