This is such a great year for JRPGs

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>>384524610
Every single game except FF12, P5 and Berseria is garbage there.

Nigga really thought he could get away with pretending Atelier and Nep trash are good lmfao

>>384524610
How many of these are actually good?
FFXII was good back in the day but it's just a remake now
Persona 5 and Valkyria Revolution are just inferior to their predecessors
I heard mixed things about Berseria, do we know if it holds up yet?

>>384524809
>FFXII was good back in the day but it's just a remake now


Not a remake, and how would that make a difference to someone who hasn't played the game?

>>384525046
it wouldn't make a difference to someone who never played it
but to those who played it, it does
I'll probably get it and enjoy it, but in the end I already know all about the game so it's not really a highlight game that improves my outlook on the year as a whole

>>384524809
P5 is inferior in story but it shits over the last two in gameplay

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>>384524610
And every single one of them gets destroyed by this

>>384524765
>Every single game except FF12, P5 and Berseria is garbage there.
Fucking this the rest is just pure weebtrash

>>384525531
the gameplay was better in the dungeons but it was still repetitive as hell
the entire social interaction and daily high school live were worse off tho

>>384525760
I'n near the end of P5(Just started Niijima's palace) and I bought the other Persona games cause the beginning of P5 hooked me and I wanted to see how the series evolved. What do the previous games do better?

Save for FF XII (a remaster), P5 (10 years in the making) and Digimon (because fuck pokeman) everything else is shit.

>>384524809
>I heard mixed things about Berseria, do we know if it holds up yet?

literally like every other tales of game. the most non happening franchise in japanese gaming.

>>384525883
Gameplay-wise nothing. P4 better villain. P3 has the best character in the persona series, Junpei.

How is Dark Rose Valkyrie? I've liked all the other IF games but how does this one compare?

>>384525883
The aspect of going to school and hanging out with your class/teammates works much better in P4
It has a different feel to it overall. P5 has quite a bit of edgyness to it while P4 has a relaxed and upbeat atmosphere

Dungeons in 3 and 4 are more linear, consisting basically just straight lines
3 had the worst gameplay combat-wise since you could only decide the actions of the main character. The other party members chose their own actions and sometimes they just derp
3 does however have the most interesting characters in my opinion

So it's up and downs wherever you go in the serious, but the core concept behind the games is always the same. If you loved one of them you should at least be able to enjoy the others

>>384524610
>This is such a great year for JRPGs
In theory. I bought every game in that image that has been released in America, and those games were all MASSIVE disappointments. Yes, even Persona 5 dragged on forever.

>>384526256
It has the potential of Fairy Fencer F, but performs like Neptunia. Seriously, it's really bad.

all rook same

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>no xenoblade 2

nigga what the fuck

>>384529002
>Nintendo exclusive
I wonder why.

>>384529597
and?

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>>384524610
All mediocre and one is just a re-release

>>384527294
Should I stress out about about not being able to max out and unlock ultimate personas for my confidants?

>>384529643
It's worthless.

>>384526126
>10 years in the making
4 years
You're lucky you didn't say this in front of me because I would've smacked you as hard as I could reflexively

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>>384529732
literally (you)

Berseria was pretty alright storywise, albeit a bit overdesigned gameplay-wise

>hey dude get these item drops and take them to the smith to dismantle them into components to upgrade gear
>"why don't enemies just drop components instead of piles of gear?" what are you, baka motherfucker?
>now slot your artes combos to mash fagit

>>384529732
>good game comes out
>ITS TRASH BECAUSE ITS NOT ON MY PREFERRED PLATFORM
Neck yourself.

>>384529836
I'm still right though.

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I only care about Blue Reflection because "muh mahou shoujo".

I hope it's good. Like two months left until release.

>>384529769
You would have hit a random stranger for not knowing a particular bit of atlus development trivia?

you have issues, enjoy getting your teeth kicked in

>>384529905
after x no thanks

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>>384524765
>Tales shit
>good.

>>384529716
accept that you can't do them all and just max out the characters you like most
you can max them all in NG+ if you got the patience for another run

>>384529905
No, actually you got me, I'm just salty that I can't play it.

>>384529935
Have you not looked at gameplay online?

>>384529942
It's not just "trivia," saying that game took 10 years to make is an incredibly ignorant thing to say, it's worth getting hit over

>>384529002
chronicles 1 was GOTY material
chronicles X was a huge disappointment
I'm not sure what to expect from 2

>>384529981
XCX is legitimately better than every game in OP's image except for P5 and maybe blue reflection I havn't played that

>>384529716
4 is less forgiving than 5 but still manageable, 3 almost requires a guide if you want to max them all before end game. that being said all the games are the same difficulty wise, so unless you're on a higher difficulty I wouldn't worry about ultimate personas

>>384530065
If you don't care that much, it's easy to think atlus only ever makes persona games, and it's been 10 years between sequels.

People are always surprised when i introduce them to catherine and EO, they have absolutely no marketing at all.

>>384530132
chronicles X was an upgrade in everyway gameplay/exploration wise

>>384530060
I just assumed it plays the same as the Atelier games without the alchemy and some new Mahou Shoujo spice.

>>384530009

I agree with your criticism, even though Tales of Vesperia is one of my favorite games

>>384530060
Sure, looks good. But it's hard to know whether the other part of the game (all the school stuff) will be anything. The characters, the writing/translation. That stuff.

>>384530009
Compared to the others there it's way better

>>384530267
Vesperia is legitimately the worst jrpg I've ever played. It's also in the bottom 5 of worst games I've ever played right before Natural Doctrine

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>>384524610
>shit
>Pretty good
>average
>pretty good
>shit
>shit
>shit
>shit
>compile heart
>shit
>had no right to exist

FFXII and P5 are the only ones worth getting

>>384525883
Don't believe people overhyping the old games, it's just subtle differences between each cast that appeals to some people over another

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>didn't post the best one

>>384530381
What didnt you like about it? I mean its been like 10 years since ive played it but it was cozy at the time

>>384530241
and yet it managed to be the worse game by far

Someone convince me to pull the trigger and buy Dark Rose.

>>384524610
Every single game pictured is the worst game in it's respective franchise.

>>384530782
can't agree with that, they're both as good in different ways

>>384530821
do it

>>384530821
do it you fucking fag lol

you wont do it pussy

>>384530734
terrible cast, terrible ost, the story was a slave to the gameplay and nothing compelling could happen without a copout that had 0 dimension to it like what happened with Raven and the transition into the time skip for act 3
I liked the combat for the first 30 hours, after that I just wanted the game to be over.

>>384530821
>Idea Factory and/or Compile Heart logo on a game.
The anti Seal of Quality.
Don't do it.

>>384524610
>a remaster and ultra-weebtrash

Nah.

>>384525626
Ive never given this game a chance, should I? Looks like some feminist shit and the main character almost looks like a nigger

Year of XII

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>>384531168
This looks fun

>>384531152
Thats fair. I played it back when gamefly was a thing and I didnt have any other games so I was able to enjoy it more, might not hold up as well now.

I remember I liked the rivaly between the main guy and that other knight fella.

>>384531168
Add Gust and Bamco while you're at it.

>>384531520
Tales of Berseria > Persona 5 and FFXV

>>384531329
is that the one compile heart has been spook teasing?

>>384531520
Bamco's a bit iffy since they do occasionally publish good games.
Mordern Gust is accurate though.

>>384531749
tales is not better than P5 lol

It's better than FFXV but that's not saying much

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>384531749
No, you're not getting a (You) with that weak bait.

@384531749
P5 >> Berseria >>> FFXV

>>384524610
Can I play Valkyria Revolution if I've never played the previous Valkyria games before it?

>>384531329
Is that a Vita exclusive?

>>384532114
Yeah, it's completely stand alone. Not that there's any reason to play revolution and not play Chronicles.

>>384532114
Valkyria Revolution is legit one of the worst games released in the last several years.

>>384525626
Haha! good one!
Oh wait, were you serious? Then let me laugh even harder.
HAHAHA

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It is even coming out on PC.

>>384530009
>based Anon with a triple 0 and 9 knocked a shit game out of the list
Fucking based. Here's a 5 to honor you with!

>>384531907
>tales is not better than P5 lol
But it is.

TOB has better characters, story, and gameplay. And yes, action RPG button mash is better than repetitive knockdown menu casting.

all JRPGs are bad

>>384524610
weeb trash

>>384532279
I just started playing it, does it stay so awkwardly serious through the whole story because the writing hasn't been good enough for it to be anything but laughable at this point.

>>384530134
>XCX is legitimately better
XCX was dogshit.

>>384524610
This image is a joke right? JRPG's aren't this weeb right?

I loved Berseria.

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>>384524610
Atelier Firis is surprisingly good, ad it was actually pretty challenging on hard mode. Too bad I fucked up my alchemist exam and had to NG+, never though I would fail at a JRPG of all things.

It's my first Atelier game, I'll definitely want to check the others after I finish with it.

>digimon world
>JRPG
>yoru no nai kuni 2
>jrpg
>valkyria revolution
>jrpg
What the FUCK is wrong with you?

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>>384525642
>berseria
>not weebtrash

>>384533037
its the worst atelier game in the 3D era of gust games

>>384533314
That's not Sophie

>weeb weeeb weeb weeb weeeeeb
You people are fucking retarded.

>>384533550
Is weeb the new /v/ buzzword of the year?

>>384533538
at least sophie doesn't run like absolute trash on PC

>>384534007
Doesn't stop it from being a shit game. Grinding for story progression is just plain bad.

>>384533676
We /v/eoGAF now.

>>384532562
>And yes, action RPG button mash is better than repetitive knockdown menu casting.

no it isn't, not even close

>>384524610
Wow, that's a whole lot of Underage Panty Quest

Has anyone played I am Setsuna? I am going out on vacation next week and was looking for someone to possible play on my switch during the down times.

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HOW DO WE STOP THEM?!

>>384534007
That's not the game's fault, TK is just plain incompetent when it comes to PC ports, it's always a shot in the dark and you never know if it'll be just bad like Sophie, or a complete failure like Firis.

If they at least tried to learn and improved little by little with every game they released, unfortunately Blue Reflection will probably have a trash port as well.

>>384534415
What's the second one from the right on the first row? Looks cool

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>>384534798
Dragon Quest XI

>>384534415
How were the sales for Utawarerumono? Because I feel like nobody played it which saddened me because it was a damn good game.

>>384534970
Man, I miss having a decent amount of party members in a DQ game to choose from. I'll probably just go harem mode with the girls, unless old man Torneko is a fun character.

>>384534189
Yes it is, by a far margin

>>384534415
Are there any JRPGs released in the last year that aren't anime themed or inspired?

>>384535913
there's at least some strategy in P5, berseria is just mapping a weakness to a single button and mashing it till the end, sometimes pressing R2

>>384525626
Who even talks about this game anymore?

>>384535997
And P5 is just finding the same weakness over and over and spamming it, with every battle knocking them down then pressing X to confirm to all out attack.

And your single button weakness thing doesn't work on anything higher than Normal. The attack sequences dont' flow correctly and you get stunned/countered attacked/blocked more often than not.

>>384535218
Probably not very good sadly which is why I'm glad Atlus just announced both at the same time. I think Atlus and Aquaplus have some sort of deal set up because I don't think anything that Atlus have brought over has done super well.

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>>384536350
>And P5 is just finding the same weakness

one more step above beseria

>And your single button weakness thing doesn't work on anything higher than Normal

that's funny I went through it on hard just fine

>>384535958
>Are there any JRPGs released in the last year that aren't anime themed or inspired
A completely meaningless question as "anime themed or inspired" is so vague that it means nothing, you could say that every single jrpg in existence can be described as "anime themed or inspired" to a certain degree as they all come from the same source. Fuck off and play some different games if you don't like anime shit because it's always going to be there.

>>384536501
>one more step above beseria
No it isn't.

I don't believe for one second you never used the block command or dodge command. YOu're telling me in every single boss battle, you press R1, find the weakness, look for all the combos that match the symbol, then put it all on X, and just mash away and win? Shit, that sounds like P5.

And are we seriously going to just post reaction pictures to argue? Because stop that reddit faggot.

>>384536908
yup I did that for berseria

why bother blocking when I can theronize as velvet or set up knockdown loops with Eizen?

>>384536985
Oh so suddenly you did something different.

>Velvet
Because if you keep theronizing and smashing away and the boss is blocking which it should be doing if you're just mashing, you'll use up all your souls and get killed with the HP hits 1.

>Eizen
Because now you actually have to time your hits to keep the loop up.

>>384537131
how is that doing anything different? It's still mashing on a weakness and occasionally pressing R2 like I said

>Because if you keep theronizing and smashing away and the boss is blocking which it should be doing if you're just mashing, you'll use up all your souls and get killed with the HP hits 1.

lol scrub can't even loop theronize triggers

Persona series in general is shit, is a bastardization of smt. Hell even devil's children combat has more depth.

>>384536985
>>384537131
So now explain, how is
>scan
>find weakness
>spam
>knockdown attack
As for bosses
>scan
>weakness
>spam same spells over and over ad nauseum until boss dies

How is that actually any better? What exactly makes P5's battle system better than Berseria as you claim?

>>384537274
P5 utilizes buffs and status effects withing its system, berseria doesn't and treats them as add ons. Next question

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>>384524809
>Persona 5
>worse than persona 4
persona 4 is inferior in every way

>>384537361
be careful anon p4fags are really thin skinned
the famitsu poll had them bouncing off the walls earlier and P4 was still ranked the 14th best rpg anyway, it's absolutely ridiculous

>>384537231
>lol scrub can't even loop theronize triggers
oh fuck off. if you're able to consistently, and frequently apply stuns, status effects, and other attacks all day every day for 100 hit combos on a boss I would like to see it.

Only way I can see it happening that consistently is abusing soul bottles. Even equipping all the stun and status effect stuff that shouldn't happen that frequently.

Either way, it's better than P5's system.

>>384537360
>berseria doesn't and treats them as add ons.
You just said you get souls and weaknesses too. The only way you get more souls is using status effects like stun, burn, poison, paralyze.

Try again.

>>384537586
>oh fuck off. if you're able to consistently, and frequently apply stuns, status effects, and other attacks all day every day for 100 hit combos on a boss I would like to see it.

dude you literally mash the weakness button and before your combo ends press R2, this works on everything up to hard (didn't play evil or chaos). you'll make up a crystal in the meantime

>>384537659
stun occurs by normally comboing, otherwise the other effects are just tacked onto artes

>>384537361
>better cast
>better story.
>better music.
>no nagging cat.
In case you haven't noticed by now, the honeymoon is over and we can accurately call P5 shit.

on P5 vs ToB

>Gameplay
Depends what we're talking about. Battle System I like the action based over turn based, because turn base is just boring. On sidequests, they're both pretty bad. P5 does have some fun NPC characters I guess.

Dungeons are equal. Both are uninspired shit.

>Characters
ToB > P5. The cast chemistry of ToB was superior to the chemistry of P5

>Story
P5 > ToB. Stealing shit from grownups is better than ARTORIAS!!!!! for the next 50 hours.

>Music
P5 > ToB

>>384524610
BLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>384537849
>better cast
Agree.

>better story
Debatable, P4's story was awful and had terrible pacing.

>better music
Maybe.

>no nagging cat
But then you have shit like Teddie.

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>>384537849
>better cast
you honestly cant tell me persona4's cast was good when you have shit main characters as chie and yukiko, the only good cast in p4 is kanji every one else is bottombarrel .
>better story
how?
>better music
now you are just shitposting
>no nagging cat
yet you have fucking teddie and his god damn shit puns, only koromaru is good

>>384537849
p4 has the worst cast and the worst story of any atlus game
why did you think it was borderline VN with all the group events? The game couldn't sustain itself on the parts that were actually important so they had to pander out the ass to "group dynamic"

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>>384524610
>all ps4 exclusive

damn it feels good to be a sonybro

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>>384537849
sorry neogaf, P4 is the least appreciated persona now

>>384538382
>>384538402
Teddie didn't follow you around the entire game, comment on every single thing you do, and stop you from doing activities whenever he fucking felt like it.

>>384538483
Half of that is
>also on PC

Not sure of this is the right place to ask; should I grab Digimon Cyber Sleuth, or Digimon World? Which ones better, since theyre both the same price?

>>384538560
>stop you from doing activities whenever he fucking felt like it.
oh I love this meme
at least try, just try, you don't even have to be successful, just try think for yourself for once in your life, if Morgana didn't have dialogue for gating your progress, what would happen instead?

I guess it's worth asking in this thread
What is the appeal of Neptunia games? They keep making them so they have to be selling, but every time I look at a trailer or gameplay footage or whatever all I see is overdrawn transformation scenes and rapidly losing novelty turn-based combat with free movement

Sell me on Neptunia. What makes it good?

>>384538697
"I don't have enough GUTS to go out tonight"

>>384538546
>FFXV made it in the top 10

That list clearly has a bias towards recent games.

>>384538831
and yet P5, the oldest of those recent games is #1, and FFXV is still getting DLC but only made #10

>>384538735
Memes

>>384538679
Both
They have extremely different game play. Cyberslut if you really are going to only get one. Unless you have played a Digimon World game before and enjoyed it.

>>384538735
Ebin vidya humor and girls.
There's nothing redeemable about the series. It's essentially the Japanese equivalent of Borderlands.

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>>384530009
Literally one of the best jrpg series out there

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>>384525531
3FES shits all over 5 in gameplay what the fuck man. 5 is the most casual SMT game I've played, and that's fucking saying something. It's broken, easy, and literally a joke. At least P4 fought back once in a while like with Mitsuo

>>384538735
Here's a serious answer.

Neptunia's biggest appeal is the characters and story. The characters are very well done, although they're more or less 1 dimensional and have nearly zero character growth in the stories, they work incredibly well together and that 1 dimension is ridiculously fleshed out. There's usually the only character that gets fleshed out is the main focus of the storyline. What's actually great about the characters is that they don't need to grow. The script and stories allow for it.

The characters work so well in the storylines that if they grow and change, they wouldn't be their characters anymore. These games aren't epic stories that try to play out as a novel, but rather, feel like nice short stories sort of like comic books. It's engaging, has tons of jokes, and incredibly charming.

The gameplay is okay, and it gets a lot of flack for having "shitty" gameplay when people rather just not learn about it. For example, in many reviews and people on /v/, they complain that they need to grind to beat the Boss HP regen. They simply don't know how to cause more damage than the boss regenerates, so they decide to grind. Instead of learning the system, which requires use of status effects, and breaking the guard, they rather just grind for 20 more levels to finally out damage the boss. And of course the game gets dinged for it. So that's not in fault of the game. They did change this in VII, where attacks and spells do less damage now, but I liked the regen to force players to play around it.

The music is getting much better as well. VII's music is particularly good.

>>384539305
5 gave a shitload of new options to the system, combat swapping, navigator cut-in's, usable guns, better side character usage
It's easy to see that as 'better gameplay', because it is polished and feels good.
FES has absolute bullshit Tartarus bosses that need you to think and use the tools that you have, which is way better gameplay for any kind of RPG.
3 has substance, 5 has style.

>>384539458
So it's one of those group dynamic meme games like Persona 4, except an entire series of them. Sounds like a pass.

>>384539458
So it has the 'cute girls doing cute things' appeal
I've never been one for that style
Thanks for the answer though

>>384539595
more or less. Persona gets a pass, so should Neptunia.

That said I do think the Neptunia plots are better. Take Persona 4 and Neptunia Victory.

P4 just falls apart with it's constant filler and Adachi out of nowhere with stupidly little hints throughout save "handshake" meme.

Neptunia actually looks at some political ramifications when a new country appears, or when people disagree with the ruling class. Unlike most JRPGs wher eyou control the peasant class, Neptunia V puts you in control of the ruling class. And instead of trying to stop the tyrant, you try to quell the rebellion and at he same time please the population. It's a nice change of pace.

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>>384539510
>3 has substance, 5 has style
I guess that's a fair way of putting it. I thought all the new shit in 5 was super cool at first, but then it just turned into an unbalanced stomp. It's a shame that those things couldn't be used to a better effect, I won't deny that. But as is I'll personally take the substance any day

Fuck man the more I reflect on P5 the more dissapinted I am. What the fuck happened. I need to do new game plus and maybe plat it to make sure but man I thought it was such a slam dunk

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>>384539305
>3FES shits all over 5 in gameplay
>it's a "retard defends no direct commands" episode.
P4 with AI party members works fine.
P3 is just busted.

>>384524809
Persona 5 is great and Tales of Berseria is the best Tales game in years.

>>384539510
That's giving the Tartarus bosses WAY too much credit. The table and dancer fights, the ones people freak out about the most, are almost entirely RNG reliant, and the dancer is practically an FF4 style level check.

>>384539929
>It's a "retard doesn't understand no direct commands" episode again
You're backwards. P4 with AI is the busted one, P3FES is the balanced one

>>384538112
What the fuck are you talking about? P5 and ToB is the exact same shit.

>ANCIENT EVIL REVIVES TO TAKE THE FREE WILL FROM MAN!!! YOU MUST STOP IT!!!

>>384540238
>being a reductionist cunt for both P5 AND a tales game
can a single post go any lower than this?

>>384524610
>6 are weeb pandering trash with forgettable & generic as hell character designs, with plot & settings ripped out of some shitty, trash tier LN

this is why i'm losing hope with JRPGs nowadays. long gone are are your BoFs, (early) Wild Arms, Suikos, & Shadow Hearts.

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>>384540238
I unironically think I liked Berseria better. Berseria has one of the best jrpg casts in years and P5 somehow doesn't.

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>>384538879
Even the most diehard Final Fantasy fan can see how XV is a broken mess
I'm playing it right now, there are some good parts here and there but the rest completly missed the mark
>World map is too small compared to other open-world game, but it's also too big for what the game has to offer
>Quest system is trash, you can't pick up several Hunts at the same time and you need to validate the quests to whoever gave it to you eventhough the MC has a smartphone
>minute-long loading time everytime you want to fast travel (and you fast-travel a lot)
>Story completly fails at making whatever happens at screen interesting or engaging, the Empire dudes are jokes villains straight up from a Sunrise show
>The girl who gives you quests about finding frogs has more dialogue lines than some of the mains characters

>>384540587
>Even the most diehard Final Fantasy fan
explain XV-kun

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>>384540532
>ToB
>this chick ruins everything

I will say this though, I did like how Berseria used NPCs like the lizard guy and the shipwright to incorporate it into the storyline as well as have their own skits and stuff regarding the main cast

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>>384540621
I thought he killed himself

>>384540747
he shits up FFXII threads now

>>384530381
>one of the worst games I've ever played
It isn't even close to being one of the worst Tales of games. You have a real shut opinion going on here if you can put Vesperia next to the dog shit game Natural Doctrine. Either that or you literally don't play games.

>>384538735
>Do you like the girls from the screenshots and trailer?
>If yes, try it out
>If not, stay the fuck away
That's generally how it goes. The main appeal has always been characters doing cute stuff together with some semblance of a plot to keep it going. The gameplay is very straightforward with little to no depth. Save for two boss encounters, it is imposible to lose at all. What you see in trailers and gameplay videos is mostly what you get. I won't recommend any of the games at all if you weren't already interested from the get go.

There's also an obnoxious amount of memes. Though that's the fault of it having a shitty localization team than the games themselves.

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>>384540665
I thought she was fine, definitely the weakest but I didn't think she ruined anything. Her rivalry with Velvet over Laphi was interesting. The side characters getting screen time was great though, Kurogane becomes a huge plot point and it's really nice to see side characters get such respect. I want to see more games do that

>>384540784
That sucks, the XIIbros don't deserve that, I hear the remaster is actually pretty good too. I'm not even a XIIfag but nobody deserves that shit.

Was he really the one who made the webm comparison with Lingering Will?

>>384541023
He's clearly meme-ing

>>384524610
>KT/Gust/IF JRPGS
>good
I wish they could be

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>>384541058
>shitty localization team

>push stupid meme
>it literally makes it into the next game
>they literally start making official merchandise based on memes

can you imagine another localization team jumping into generals for their game and posting in it?

>>384541330
>he hasn't played the good ateliers

>>384541330
Atelier is pretty decent. And even more is Neptunia, specially Cyberimension.

>>384524809
none are good. but I guess some weebs still like games that feel like they belong on the PS2.

>>384525883
All the new persona (3-4-5) games are nearly identical. You will be replaying 80-90% of the same game in each version.

P3 has the best character development because you see the characters grow over the course of the entire game rather than the 1 arch growth spurt per character in P4 and P5. But I wouldn't say the characters are a master piece in any of the games.

The story in P3 arguably makes more sense because of the build up but it's the same as P5, you fight god.

>>384542862
I'd take a game that feels like a PS2 game over anything else any day, that's the best jrpg platform besides like the DS

>>384535958
All JRPGs are anime because that's what makes them JJJJJJJ-rpgs. Only none anime games are ones that aren't very JRPGy either such as Dark Souls.

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>>384543181
Serious question, who is an example of a "master piece" character in the genre/in video games?Because Junpei is authentically really good

>>384540665

don't bully Eleanor, she was there to show how not all the exorcists were evil. It was just the Abbey's top men were all either cold lunatics or exploitative criminals. Her biggest impurity was a desire to lewd a shota and get catty with Velvet over it.

>>384543659

Gerald in Witcher 1 and 3 is my favorite RPG character.

Jumpei is okay and better than the characters in P4 and P5 but he's still a cliche of an reckless teenager and coming of age story with a love interest.

I really like Geralt because he's an adult and acts as realistic as possible in the situations he's given. He has a back story and has accomplished success in the past so he isn't whinnying and complaining about every difficulty. He isn't a blank slate and has opinions and a cocky sense of humor and often criticizes the people who is talking too or taking missions from.

At this stage in life, I find the anime characters of JRPGs too cliche and childlike and I prefer more mature writing.

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>>384544550
I like Geralt too but I don't think it's fair to label Junpei as a cliche and not Geralt. In fact it's really hard to find any character who isn't a cliche in some way. In my opinion it isn't about how cliched a character is, it's how well they are executed in their role, such as subverting it or using it to some exciting potiential. I think both Junpei and Geralt excel at that.

The line about childlike and mature writing seems really dismissive and bait-like but I'll respect your opinion. Thanks for an earnest response anon, I like talking about video games

>>384544981
>In fact it's really hard to find any character who isn't a cliche in some way. In my opinion it isn't about how cliched a character is, it's how well they are executed in their role, such as subverting it or using it to some exciting potiential. I think both Junpei and Geralt excel at that.

The word you are looking for is trope. cliches are over used tropes.

>The line about childlike and mature writing seems really dismissive and bait-like but I'll respect your opinion. Thanks for an earnest response anon, I like talking about video games

Junpei is an okay character, not bad, but is he better than Geralt? Ciri? Tries? Jennifer?

I've played a lot of RPGs and I can't think of any that have characters this well done and flushed out. My conclusion is that the anime core of JRPGs focus on teenagers with no backstory or not getting enough love or attention as children. For this reason I can't recommend any RPG to someone over the age of ~20

>>384545836
Yes trope is a much better word, thank you.

And I disagree. I think the two are vastly different characters and one does not have to be just "okay" to give the other his dues. The Witcher has some of the best writing in video games, mostly due to coming from a actual books. At the end of the day I probably wouldn't even disagree with you about Geralt being literally better. But I think saying Junpei is just okay is really not giving him respect.

>>384524765
Ff12 is shit tier and p5 was just alright. There are 0 good jrpgs this year. Japan may as well go back to making just cars and porn