Lets talk about the best Elder scrolls game of all time

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>>384519081
You mean second worst.

>>384519081
but that's not skyrim OP

>>384519081
wrong pic, OP.
Skyrim looks different.

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is Glarthir /ourguy/ ?

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>>384519081
I think you are mistaken

>>384519081
Another fag... sorry men

>>384519254
>>384519273
>>384519351
t. stealth archer assassins

>>384519273
>>384519351
>You must be 18 to post on this site

>>384519668
My post rightfully implied Skyrim is the worst.

>>384519560
Oblivion does weirdos and freaks better than any other game.

>>384519714
then what are you doing posting Oblivion?

>>384519714
Are you over 25?

>>384519714
>>384519668
Skyrim has a much better (albeit still shit) combat system and it's story is league's better than Oblivion's.
Inb4 b-but it's comfy

>>384520137
Oblivion has better quests, better music and better comfy.

>>384519254
if there's high level gear laying around in dungeons for YOU to pick up then bandits should be able to find it as well. oblivion showed us the harsh realities of adventuring. explore too far and you're going to get brutally murdered.

>>384520137
the only thing that skyrim does much better is having more loli mods

>>384519081
literally the worst TES up to date

even redguard is more of an RPG

go be an underage elsewhere

>>384520302
too bad those aren't the only aspects of a game.

>better comfy

yeah no

>>384520378
>baby can't handle dice rolls yet insists on playing an RPG

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You can say anything you want about the combat, the lore, the mediocre main quest, but if there's one thing that Oblivion absolutely nailed and hasn't been matched by any RPG besides the original Fable is its comfy factor. Just strolling through the streets of Anvil, Cheydinhal, the great white walls of the Imperial City, the wondrous green scenery while listening to this set of auditory masterpieces was pure kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v9K98RzbHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW6625hw_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8m78N9Z-vw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d8yCWF4cBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPysOFeSg8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSl6XQzAck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmasQm-YW8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVDRGOWc-I

>>384520302
>c-comfy
Good fucking Lord you nostalgia babbies are the worst
Morrowind>Daggerfall>Skyrim>Oblivion

>>384520378
Morrowind has amazing lore

>>384520506
All Jeremy Soule music is good.

And he has made music for better games than Oblivion.

Morrowshitters please go back to your swamp

>>384520520
>Daggerfall

Boy I sure do enjoy what was the period equivalent of today's open world collectathon games with no fucking purpose beyond exploring.

Morrowind > Oblivion with Shivering Isles > Skyrim with Dragonborn > Everything else

>>384520378
>Oblivion's leveling system is better than Morrowinds Dice rolls
We got some fucking loonies in here.

>>384520520
>Daggerfall better than Skyrim
Peak retard /v/ strikes again, Daggerfall was No Man's Sky before No Man's Sky was no Man's Sky. It's endless procedural generation amidst a bunch of convoluted systems.

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I saw a mudcrab the other day

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>Never use a bed
>Game is easy
>Use beds all the time
>Game is impossible
>Level up your skills exactly via a guide you found online, never using them spontaneously, then use beds
>Game is just right

>>384520794
You're a big crab

Game didn't age well, it's boring now.

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oblivion is only good for making sluts and porn mods these days

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>>384520378

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>>384520378

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>>384520705
Vanilla Skyrim > Vanilla Oblivion

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>>384521093
>Morrowind music better than Oblivion's
How about no.

>>384520926
The thing is, Oblivion can be made into a great game with a few patches. You really have to dig the bottom of the fucking barrel for Skyrim. The only satisfaction I ever get is creating fat titted argonian girls and sucking every human dick in sight.

>>384521078
this is relevant to my interests

care to share source?

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>>384519081
Oblivion had nice music. Great high fantasy stuff that was much much better than Skyrim's retarded barbarian chanting.

>>384521078
Yeah because making characters into unfitting plastic barbie dolls is so better than the vanilla potato faces

>>384521221
Fuck off oblivion babby

>>384521128
Skyrim's sidequests are fucking garbage tho

>lel sell the Dragonborn's immortal soul to this demon and trick them for the 45th time xD xD

>>384521093
Oblivion's side quests are better conceptually than Morrowind's by far, the only advantage Morrowind has is that there are no quest markers and you have more freedom in how you complete objectives but nothing comes close to Whodunit or A Brush with Death.

>>384521096
Doesn't skyrim only have like 5 music tracks that get super repetitive in one playthrough?

>>384521347
I started with Morrowind, Oblivion has the better music. Like this isn't even a fucking contest.

>>384521221
This one song is better than anything in oblivion
https://youtu.be/sSr2Aj3RtaA

>>384521536
No, it isn't.

>>384519081
I'll never understand the appeal of Oblivion. I think Morrowind and Skyrim are both better for different reasons, and I can't imagine why I'd ever want to replay Oblivion between them.

I'm a casual baby and never touched the older games.

>>384521473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWv3DfoiigM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpqSdORmCX4

You guys should stop trying to pretend one soundtrack by the same composer is somehow leagues above another soundtrack by the same composer

>>384521627
Yes, yes it is.

>>384519081
>Enemies scale to your level.
>Not enough variety to the Oblivion plans that the random portals would take you to.
>Some of the ugliest armors
>Random Oblivion gate in the wild is cool the first 20 times, pretty annoying running into them end game though.
>Sheogorath supposed to be daedric prince of madness. Is reddit tier prince of randumb.
>Lockpick system was ass.
>Unlucky to have to follow up the GOAT that was Morrowind.

>>384521647
It's the quests and NPC schedules at their peak. Plus, towns have more houses than Skyrim's.

>>384521530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxa0vFyXsK0

Feel free to post superior songs from Oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ybZ4uOt2Cs

EHM...

>>384520506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb133m_AEnY

>>384520958
for you

>>384521657
Jeremy Soule said he was in a car accident that threatened his life shortly before the making of the Oblivion soundtrack, which influenced his work on it.

>>384521647
>I'm a casual baby
>"I don't like Oblivion"
Correlation detected

>>384521752
All the stellar wandering songs have already been posted.
>>384520506

>>384521676
Yo, one thing about Oblivion you can not talk shit about.

Shivering Isles is GOAT. Arguably better than Morrowind expansions, it was literally the one redeeming factor about Oblivion.

However on the whole Morrowind is still better.

>>384521752
Best ES song period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo3e9a7QKqM

>>384521797
Yeah, and it's not any better than any of his other soundtracks.

If you listen to them in isolation they basically sound like they're part of the one big thing.

>>384521676
Sheogorath was improved in Oblivion. He was actually likable instead of being a generic edgelord asshole like all of the other Daedric princes.

>>384519081
>"Let's talk about the first Elder Scrolls game I played on the 360"

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>>384519081
>inb4 morromemers swarm and ruin the thread

>>384520137
>it's story is league's better than Oblivion's
They're both equally terrible.

>>384522005
>making him almost Deadpool levels of Reddit is an "improvement"

>>384521676
>not ignoring the main quest to prevent gates until you want to do the main quest
>all gates close automatically when you do complete it
No reason to complain about random gates in the countryside during "late game" if you're not doing 200 quests at once and never getting around to wrapping up the main quest.

>>384522073
Whats the bigger thing called?

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Is there any as comfy as Balmora in Oblivion?

>>384520335
>explore too far and you're going to get brutally murdered.
You just described how Oblivion should have been (and can be with mods) but it isn't. The entire game revolves around the charcter and their level.

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>>384522163
he wasn't nearly as bad as redditpool

>>384522323
That is why I said "almost".

>>384521903
Shivering Isles was definitely better than Tribunal I'll give you, but Bloodmoon was a great expansion. I think shivering isles is just remembered so fondly because Oblivion as a whole was so disappointing that it made the DLC look much better than it really was.

>>384522194
I might be remembering wrong but I swear there were still active gates in the countryside even after I completed the main quest. If I'm wrong I will take that point back, it has been quite a few years since I played the game.

>>384522604
Nah, they are all supposed to close.

Welp while this is here I haven't play Oblivion in years. What overhauls are best.

>>384521657
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWv3DfoiigM
Where the fuck is all this music hiding? The first 3 songs make up the only ones I ever hear.

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>>384520520
>calls someone a nostalgia baby
>likes morrowind the most

>>384522791
Nehrim. It turns it into an actual good game.

>>384522791
The uninstall it and install Morrowind overhaul is what I suggest.

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Ok. What's your favorite house?

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>>384522794
You never went to Whiterun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3VAltxlr8

So comfy.

>>384522820
>implying It isn't the best.

>>384519560
As a person who has schizophrenia I can tell you that I related to him immensely

>>384522791
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul

Everything else is for faggots

>>384520376
Oblivion's are better though.

>>384522998
Okay I heard that one before.

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>>384522292
>balmora in the rain

>>384522873
spent an hour installing this then 30 minutes playing

>>384522292
Not Skingrad. I don't trust that place in the slightest, what with the fucking vampires, abandoned hell house, crazy schizophrenic, etc. Chorrol is pretty nice though.

>>384523403
>abandoned hell house
I vaguely remember hearing about this, what's it all about?

>>384520378
They're the same goddamn combat except in Oblivion you can manually block and power attack. Just because you hear a different noise and their HP gets reduced everytime in Oblivion doesn't mean it's different when the game was adjusted so you had to hit them more times to compensate for that. The manual blocking and power attacks were a slight improvement over the Morrowind system though.

>>384521078
That's the only thing Skyrim beats it at

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>>384522791
>What overhauls are best.

Play the PS3 or 360 version on a CRT while relaxing on something comfy such as a bed or couch that doesn't require you to be hunched over a keyboard. Also grab a nice iced coffee, soda, or tea and enjoy yourself.

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>>384522791

>>384523552
It's a place called Nerastarel's House. It is inexplicably filled with undead and no one mentions it and it isn't part of some quest. Pretty sure it was cut content or something, but it terrified me when I first went in.

>>384522438
Ooh don't play that. Shivering Isles was genuinely great. It's not just Nostalgia, a lot of people considered Oblivion a great game simply because the combat wasn't an abomination between action and dicerolls. So it's not just rose tinted nostalgia.

It is very very hard to chose between Shivering Isles and Bloodmoon.

The atmosphere on both is amazing, but for different reasons, so that can't be a tie breaker either.

The story was better on Shivering Isles and it was longer, and the map was more interesting to explore.

But the overall sense of mystery and dread in Bloodmoon was great. Shivering Isles was less gloomy because the macabre things were obstructed under layers of whimsy, but the whole thing with the isles was that it was wrong, everything about the isles was wrong.

They both have their good points, maybe single things in Bloodmoon were more memorable than in Shivering Isles, but on the whole I think Shivering Isles was better.

One thing Bloodmoon did good was the draugr in that were genuinely terrifying.

>>384522292
>Stumbling around Vivec like a blind man first time I visited the city.
>Trying to find someone to sell my loot to.
>Eventually stumble across big dick Vivec himself.
>Have basically built a house with the slain cliffracers and mudcrabs to my name.
>Decide I will kill Vivec.
>Get my ass handed to me and set out on a quest to get strong enough to kill him.

Man I love Morrowind. Everything about it truly feels like fantasy. The alien landscapes and cities were just too comfy.

>>384522975
Telvanni for life.

Fuck I pick Telvanni, even when I am not a magic caster.

>>384521809
People who bring the older games into the discussion likely never even played them anyways and are just doing it to show off. There's a reason people compare the 3 TES games that they do, it's because they're very comparable in mechanics and gameplay. The others are a complete different beast.

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This is mine

>>384523719
I agree with this as it's basically what I did for years but after 500 hours im completely burnt out on vanilla oblivion

Having it on PC with modding capabilities is the only reason I can replay the game

>>384522975
Redoran = Telvanni > Dres >>>>>>>>>> Hlaalu

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>>384519081
Haha. No, really. Post your favorite The Elder Scrolls™ game. Maybe one that takes place in a cold place? Filled with Nords?

>>384523930
What's wrong with Oblivion's lore again?

>>384524059
>muh jungle

I want to replay Oblivion but for some reason any time I mod it I always crash at the character editor. I've played Oblivion on this same PC before with no problems and I've searched for days but still no solution

>>384523824
You dont have to cast a spell to be Telvanni, you just have to, in some way, be better then your superiors.

So be better at staying alive and you rule the whole house!

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The only mod you need for faces is the Oblivion Character Overhaul, I don't get why people use those shitty plastic weeb mods.

>>384524059
They retconned some shit which basically allowed them to turn it into LOTR fantasy #23436

>>384524059
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_1st_Edition/Cyrodiil

Name one (1) that made it into Oblivion

>>384523703
woah, someone who actually understands

>>384524051
Fallout New Vegas?

>>384522975
6th house because of the nude mods I had on as a child

Look! Look at all these literal pieces of shit!

But this one... This one is the best!

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>>384521093
This,Oblivion world design and main quest were god awful,level scaling is also cancer

>>384524206
Wow, I did not know you can make Oblivion look like Mount and Blade.

>>384524403
was gonna post this but I was too lazy, nice to know someone else got that impression

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>>384524403
I play on a toaster, I don't need to turn my character into some generic JRPG girl.

>>384524475
but it's literally mount and blade with an oblivon GUI put on

Have you heard of the high elves?

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>People forgetting Morrowind's biggest problem

>Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim rebuilt on a new engine and all part of the same game so you can walk from one provence to the next never ever

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>>384523930
>caring about TES lore

TES is to high fantasy as Big Bang Theory is to comedic sitcoms. The "lore" is nothing more than window dressing for the game world, character progression, quests, and atmosphere. The games have awful writing like most other games. People that get enjoyment from reading all the in game books and looking up extensive lore info beyond the games are a million times worse than Dark Soul lore autists and almost as bad as the degenerates who read sonic fanfics.

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>>384524283
Haha, no Anon. Try again!

>>384524638
OpenMW with Province Cyrodiil and SHotN in 2040

>>384524576
nah, looks like that shitty Elswhyr mod or whatever the fuck, with lazy scenery design.

>>384522791
Maskar's objectively.

WAC or OOO otherwise.

>>384524635
When I was younger and autistic, I learned modding in Morrowind and the first mod I made was a spell that kills cliffracers.

Nothing else, just cliffracers, and the AoE was massive. So whenever I heard or saw one of the fuckers, I cast the Cliffracer nuke and it killed every cliffracer nearby.

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>>384524707
Uuuh... the witcher 3?

>>384524635
>Problem
>Free Racer Plumes
>Levitate Potions for days

>>384524801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4rXsrZRchQ

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>>384520378
>MW Lore was good
MK pls go and take your fangirl fiancee with you

>>384522791
Maskar's + OOO

>it's another solve 10 street sign captchas before you can post episode

>>384525002
use legacy you cuck

Arena/Dagerfall Music > Oblivion Music >= Morrowind Music > Skyrim Music

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>>384525002
>not using legacy captcha
Captcha: road blvd

>>384520378
I would take rolls over everything leveling with you any day of the week. There is no worse mechanic that has ever been devised than scaling enemies

>>384525062
Arena soundtrack was annoying shit
Daggerfall is pretty good though

>>384525062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbilPF1b3U4
he's right

>>384523960
>wanting to play Oblivion at all after 500 hours

In that case just install Nehrim or mess around with ENB's and other graphical enhancement mods and bug fixes / quality of life mods and make your Oblivion world either slightly less potatoey with character overhauls and environment mods or a loli-slut utopia with over the top and out of place shit everywhere.

>>384524934
Ah, I have been wondering where that welcome to morrowind gif was from.

Now I know.

>>384519617
i own that game NIB and CIB and it's kinda a hot steaming pile of shit honestly

>>384521295
>Yeah because making characters into unfitting plastic barbie dolls is so better than the vanilla potato faces
...yes?

>>384525062
Morrowind Title theme far surpasses everything in Oblivion, especially the Oblivion version of it, I know they're all a version of a song from Daggerfall or whateer but Morrowind's was by far the best. Skyrim's was at least the style Oblivion was going for but done right.

Also it would kick in randomly while you were playing and it was fucking magical.

Comfiest ES song coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvRoL3xW7Kc

STEP ASIDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hir0iikQCfo

>>384524635
Great for Levitation Potions. Awful fucking annoyance. Clenched my butthole reflexively every time I heard them screech...

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>>384523930
>Morrowind's shitty dice combat that makes every single battle either stupidly easy or impossible, combined with action elements that give the player the illusion of needing good aim and reflexes when in truth it's all based on his stats
>... is somehow better than Oblivion's combat system, which implements actual action-based combat where the way you move and attack as a player actually matters a bit more

You're so fucking biased it hurts

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>>384525062
Morrowind Theme > Skyrim Ambience > Oblivion comfy town music

>>384525584
Yet the worst part about Oblivion is the scaling enemies. It really is a cancer that will stay with us forever.

>>384525584
See
>>384523703
Oblivion's idea of "improvement" is taking Morrowind's combat, removing the stat misses and adding 1000x more health on the enemies so you have to keep running around and hitting them for an eternity.
Not to mention the staggerfest that a lot of enemies were.

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>>384524206
Because it looks better than OCO aka sameface forever.

>>384525116
Agreed

>>384519081
It had the best side quests and guild quests (with the exception of the final mage's guild quest) in the games. The cities also felt nicely designed as well.

>>384525584
>>... is somehow better than Oblivion's combat system, which implements actual action-based combat where the way you move and attack as a player actually matters a bit more
What way you move and attack? By standing like a gimp and mashing them as they do the same to you?

Morrowind was trying to simulate dodging and such without having the capability to render or allow the player to do it. Later games, instead of using the superior technology to allow the player to do it, simply added a bit of flash to the same goddamn system.

The Dragon Fights in Skyrim were the biggest letdown in gaming since Starbound.

>>384525783
It wasn't THAT bad in Skyrim, that game fixed a good amount of things wrong with Oblivion but had ungodly bad side quests.

>>384523738
I will admit it's close but I think Bloodmoon was still better. As I said Shivering Isles you get to after Oblivion so it was amazing in comparison. Bloodmoon was incredibly solid but it doesn't shine as much since Morrowind wasn't a bad game. I will give you that Shivering Isles has a bit more for going for it in exploration since the first half of Bloodmoon is basically running back and forth between a castle and a mine.

Maybe I'm the odd one out but the Shivering Isles really didn't feel like whimsy to me. Maybe I just didn't have the right mindset for it, when I think realm of madness I think of something like In the Mouth of Madness or Jacob's Ladder. The Isles to me legit just felt like they were random to be random.

What I will give you though is experiencing the death sequence the first time you attack Sheogorath was cool.

The biggest flaw with Oblivion is that I couldn't marry Dar-Ma. Seriously, name ONE TES girl that was purer than that cute boot. I would marry the shit out of her and have a threeway with her hot mom.

>>384525898
One of the few things I like about Oblivion and I don't see that many people talk about them are the cities, they had a pretty good designed and felt bigger than what they actually were (except for the Imperial City which was horrible).

>>384525916
Every weapon got skills depending on direction of attack and light/heavy.
Skyrim is where it went completely brain dead.

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>>384524635
>problem

>>384526112
You realise in Morrowind every weapon had different stats for attack direction right? You tried to whacker someone with a spear instead of thrusting you were gonna have a bad time.

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>>384526078
>name ONE TES girl that was purer than that cute boot.

>>384519273
Fuck off Brandon

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>>384522257
It's called opabinia, the illustrations are probably a bit on the imaginative side though

>>384526225
>not using automatic attack direction

>>384526112
>every weapon got skills depending on direction of attack
Isn't that just in Morrowind? I'm pretty sure only Morrowind had the chop, thrust and slash stats.

>>384520137
It has worse combat than oblivion

>>384525885
>calls OCO sameface while posting the same kawaii uguu face that is seen in every picture when someone posts a pic with that weeb mod

>>384526359
>using automatic attack direction
Bet you also directional autoblocked in Mountain Blade you pervert

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>>384526078

>>384526225
This is true, and each had a different hit rate modifier.
I was just saying how Oblivion did include these things.

>>384526363
Technically yes, though it didn't show as in Morrowind, certain movement based skills could either stun or paralyze an enemy.

>>384526363
In Morrowind those only affected damage done depending on the weapon. He's talking about the different effects directional power attacks had in Oblivion, like sideways disarmed, backwards knocked back and forwards paralyzed.

>>384522323
>The nicest guy you'll ever meet...
>...and a twisted fucking psychopath

>>384526078
>>384526228
>>384526465
>beast races

>>384526228
>>384526465
Fucking cat lovers, get out of here.

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>>384526625
Bruh, everybody knows Shahvee is best Skyrim waifu.

>>384525584
Morrowind is too old for most people to enjoy now, that being said the dice roll element is overall a better addition than anything oblivion added to combat aside from better animations and fluidity. I'm assuming you only played Morrowind for a very short amount of time because part of the entire point of a dice roll system is that you get equipment, weapons, and level stats that improve your hit chance, so a level 1 character with shitty stats and weapons and gear is going to have a much harder time hitting things than a level 10 character with better hit chance weapons and gear and more stats. It makes sense from an RPG perspective, even STALKER has a subtle dice roll system with guns.

>>384526363
Morrowind had the "Always use best attack" option, which rendered the attack type system useless. The combat in the game is nothing to write home about.

>>384526645
Give me one (1) reason why Khajiit aren't the best Elder Scrolls race.

>>384526103
Yeah, the imperial city was pretty bad. It was such a slog to go through. Despite that, I still enjoyed the docks and the little waterfront village.

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>>384526748
Why does TES have so few waifus but so many husbandos
is Todd gay?

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>>384526881
Because argonians exist

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>>384526748
>skyrim female argonians
>ever
Derkeethus is my lizard husband though

>>384523114
What about now?

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>>384526465
Best waifu

I hope Neravarine took her with him to Akavir

>>384526790
>STALKER has a subtle dice roll system with guns.
Not if you play it on Master difficulty like you should be.

>>384526881
Because Redoran doesn't allow it. Hai Resdaynia.

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>>384519081
DIE S'WIT

>>384526523
I know but his wording didn't address the fact that attack direction in Morrowind was already a factor without it being perk based fluff.

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>>384526970
Female argonians are cute

>>384526790
>Morrowind is too old for most people to enjoy now
Playing it vanilla for the first time and loving it, only issue I had was how fucking abysmally slow you moved. Thankfully I got the Boots of Blinding Speed so it's not an issue anymore but the start is painful just because of that.
Also fuck Cliff Racers.

>>384526790
That's the thing with Morrowind, the stat rolls work perfectly but most people drop the game since early on you can't hit shit (and I mean VERY early on since I'm already landing good hits with a weapon I found in that fucking Seyda Neen cave)

>>384527080
I read that in the marge simpson voice.

Best ENB for Oblivion?

>>384527080
Female Argonians were made to be used as cock sluts for the other races

>>384526465
Why does she wear robes when she has fur? Also, any mods?

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>>384527196
That only makes it better.

>>384525916
No one denies that the combat system in all 3 games is utter trash, it's just that Morrowind's is the trashiest one. Even with the simplicity of Oblivion and Skyrim, they were a vast improvement over Morrowind. Combat always resulted in one of these two: 1) staying still while perma-staggign your enemies with a heavy weapon and seeing how your attacks connect all the time, all while they don't get to score a single hit on you, or 2) the same as before, but YOU being the one who can't hit and gets hit all the time by them

In Oblivion, at least you have to figure out some attack patterns and dodge some attacks. Granted, it doesn't matter later on because everyone becomes HP sponges and the AI is trash, but some gameplay is better than no gameplay.

Morrowind would have done much better as a turn-based game or having your character automatically fight the enemies without direct player input on its movements

>>384526112
A meaningless mechanic which is the perfect example of Morrowind's poor gameplay design. You can simply go to the Options menu and check "Always use best attack". Why the fuck implement different types of attacks and render them meaningless by adding a single menu option? What the hell were they thinking?

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best game coming through

>>384527196
I find the Marge Simpson voice endearing.

>mod the shit out of Skyrim
>still get bored of it 2 hours in

What went wrong, bros? Even with weather/campfire, survival, better combat, and perk mods the game still feels fundamentally sterile.

>>384527367
Nothing wrong. Installing mods for Skyrim is more fun than playing the game. That's common knowledge.

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Alright subtle /esg/ /v/ edition thread, real talk time.

You are out adventuring alone.

No living sentient being is around for miles.

Todd is not watching you.

Dwarf people technology is not recording you.

And the 8 gods of the land do not give a shit.

And DNA evidence will never be invented because its like the year 5000 and we just got Crossbow technology

Would you fuck a freshly dead corpse? No decay, no decay smell, and you have at least 6 hours of being alone.

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>>384527251
>tfw you've put probably 600+ hours into Skyrim as a slutty argonian girl with slavery porn mods

No regrets

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>tfw no qt khajit gf

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>>384527646
>>384527647
Why are TES women such fucking sluts

>>384527295
>A meaningless mechanic which is the perfect example of Morrowind's poor gameplay design. You can simply go to the Options menu and check "Always use best attack". Why the fuck implement different types of attacks and render them meaningless by adding a single menu option? What the hell were they thinking?
What on earth are you doing? They literally add an option that makes the entirity of the combat in the games meaningless called the difficulty settings. You can simply go the the Options menu and select the easiest difficulty.

I'm not gonna say it was the best implemented system but that criticism of it is worthless. Hence why I drew the parallel to Mount and Blade above, that game gives you the tools to make the combat trivial in the options menu, you just choose not to do it. Hell, if you're just going with what's available to you, just console yourself around with "coc" and give yourself all the gold and loot in the world, simply press the console button and type it in.

>>384527367
Because there is nothing left to explore.
There is nothing left to discover.
There is nothing left to experiment with.
And filling that void of a fresh open world game by using nothing makes you feel frustrated.

Big titties and bikini armor can only take a game so far.

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"have you heard of the high elves?"

>>384522975
Telvanni.

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>>384527609
>dwarf people

>>384527241
OBGE/whatever the updated version is called + SweetFX.

>>384527609
Depends, what's the fine here for necrophillia?

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>>384527647
No fur, but I would fuck a kahjiit.

>>384527324
My score out of 10 of Daggerfall is literally HALVED by the dungeon maps.

If there was a mod that would make the maps some bit legible to me in terms of finding the last unexplored room in a big fuckoff dungeon I would rate it MUCH higher.

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>>384527251
what a strange way to spell Dunmer

>>384527609
No. I would rape a lot of people using paralysis spells and weapons tho.

>>384524635
>problem
Stupid n'wah, levitation potions are great.

>>384527609
No I need to raise that corpse

>>384527862
Being an Argonian sex toy for three days.

>>384527367
Well when I modded the game the mods that would have made it bearable simply decided not to work and it was too much of a hassle to get them to.

All I want is decent combat, and skill ups for completing radiant and otherwise quests. I would also prefer all the percentage perkwankery removed.

>>384527762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XR6dsy7ATE

>>384528089
You mean as in I'm THE argonian which is a sex toy right?

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>>384520378
>>384521093
>>384521096
Every one of these is crying at the combat.. while the dude in the strip is holding a controller.
You reap what you sow.

>>384527862
Is it the first offence?

>>384527762
I always get mad at what they chose to say in the video. How the fuck is it possible that someone hasn't heard of the High Elves? They are one of the main races in the setting

>>384528214
>offence
Let's assume 'no'

>>384528251
That's probably the whole point, that NPCs say some dumb shit.

>>384528315
Then it's at least 500 gold.

>>384528401
I got the impression that they were trying to reference the Summerset Isles rumor that played every single time

>>384528152
Correct.

>>384519714
>the newest entry is the shittiest

you're so cliche

the Bow and Arrow mechanics alone make Skyrim the best by far.

go suck a fat dick if you don't like that little fact

>tfw no qtie ghosts to fondle
Arondil you lucky bastard.

>>384527740
>implying skill is required to perform those attacks
>implying they change the terrible hit / miss combat mechanics

Just tap a directional key and Mouse Button 1 and there you go. The poorly made combat system is still there.

>>384519081
>best Elder Scrolls game
>Bandits running around in rare glass armor if your level is too high
>Wolves and goblins mysteriously vanish when your level is too high and forests are filled with nothing but minotaurs and ogres
>Loot is tied to your level, so if you accidentally do a quest too early and get an ultra powerful item too early it's permanently weak and rendered useless later
>At the same time certain kinds of items will never show up, ever, unless you're at a certain level. So not a single dungeon in all of Cyrodiil will have glass armor stashed away if you're level 10.
>But it's not like it matters, because most of the loot in Oblivion is randomly generated trash anyways
>Counterintuitive leveling system means that you want to pick skills that you won't be using as your major skills, because you won't have enough skill increases to raise stats. This wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the fact that enemies also level up with you and if you don't level efficiently you end up weaker than random bandits on the street.
>Stupid AI that constantly talks about mudcrabs with each other and never shut up
>Oblivion gates are fucking awful. At least Skyrim dragons can get killed quickly.
>Combat is barely improved from Morrowind. It's just click click click, only now enemies occasionally react to your hits and you can do power attacks.
>Main quest is just the obviously evil Mythic Dawn cult vs Blades. Daedra are supposedly invading, but all of the gates stand still, there is no actual invasion. Suffers from the same problem as later Bethesda games (like Fallout 4) where they don't know how to implement a main quest in an open world and give it a sense of urgency. Instead of hurriedly stopping the invasion you're probably just dicking around for 20 years killing mudcrabs

The ONLY saving grace in vanilla Oblivion was that some of the quests were interesting, even though most of them were just "go here, kill thing"

Oblivion sucked when it came out and it sucks now

>>384521287
where did you find Kurt Cobain? i've visited every greenhouse and it still hasn't activated the random encounter

>>384528627
>install quest mod that removes level limitations on quests
>never sleep/rest past level 5
>silver weapons spawn
>enjoy game

>>384524345
I don't remember seeing these two NPCs in Oblivion

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>>384524051
>Maybe one that takes place in a cold place? Filled with Nords?
It does actually.

>>384528606
I mean, I've said multiple times the combat system was rubbish, as it has been in every TES game, so I don't get what the point of this comment was. My argument is that Oblivion is not the huge improvement people make it out to be.

>>384528775
Oblivion is probably one of the few games I've ever played where leveling up actually makes you weaker

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>>384519081
Why aren't you playing ESO right now?

legitimate answers please.

>>384523719
>recently got Oblivion for PS3 to play for the first time since my PC is dead
No CRT but so far pretty comfy

>>384528912
Poor third world monkey and can't afford a proper PC to play it right now

>>384528912
>MMO

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>>384528912

>>384524345
That woman looks manlier than me

>>384527891
Its okay when its human male on female anthro, I'd fuck one but I don't want to be one.

>>384529052
That makes two of us

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>morrowind babbies

>>384526112
>>384528606
None of us can know, but I really hope (you) don't see 4 (you)'s in this post or that would be embarrassing.

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>>384528992

>>384528853
They're all trash, but hey, improvements are improvements.

>>384527925
>not casting frenzy on the town rapist instead
Fag.

>>384529189
Too bad it made everything else worse then

>>384527925
I'd have 100% chameleon enchantment if I were a rapist so that way people will think it was a ghost.

>>384528961
>fully voice acted quests
>freedom to make decision
>classes aren't restricted to 1 weapon/armor set

>>384529235
>town rapist
What's the Tamriel equivalent of Moldova

>>384528627
>That entire autistic incorrect wall of text is fixed by mods
lol

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>>384529107
>oblivionbabbies

>>384527324
prove that you've actually played it, because I honestly have a hard time believing anyone who tried to beat Daggerfall could rate it anything above a 3/10 at best.

the quite literally completely empty world, the gifuckingnormous dungeons with 0% actual design work put into them and the copypaste towns with randomized NPCs in them all make for a massively shitty game which is personally a 2/10 and that's only because I still kind of like the graphics and music and also the leveling system is the best in all of TES.

>>384529325
Some shithole in hammerfell.

>>384529189
But then you call Skyrim's combat worse when it just moved from Oblivion in the same direction Oblivion moved from Morrowind, with the addition of sprinting and shield bashes and shit.

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>>384529156

>>384528912
>>384528992
It looks like the art design is shifting disturbingly close to "pointlessly huge/flared pauldrons and shoulder pads" territory.

>>384527609
But what if I want Todd to watch?

>>384529454
Most of Hammerfell is desert, though, and the actual towns and cities it has are surprisingly organized. I think it makes more sense to be some shithole in Elsweyr or Valenwood.

>>384529365
Name one thing that's wrong about it. Vanilla Oblivion is a shitshow. The only way it's fixed is by mods that the development team themselves had no involvement in. Other people work for free to fix the game while Bethesda profits

>>384526154
Based Jiub

>>384529420
I can see his point, I posted here >>384527894
.

there's something nice about just going through the motions in a procedurally generated world man, just running through dungeons killing shit and getting loot, buying a boat and doing it somewhere else, I just can NOT deal with the maps.

>>384529506
The armor designs can sometimes be really out of place from the rest of the series but I don't mind it too much

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>Golden Crest sequel never

>>384529365
Now if only you could fix the shitty world map, atmosphere, lore, characters, voice acting, quests, combat and engine.

>>384528912
Because of FF14.

Also the lack of mods
And the lack of big fat tits and ass in your face at all times

>>384529742
>Oblivion's atmosphere
>Bad
Into trash goes your opinion, literally the comfiest game ever made.

>>384529107
>hovers over stats and sword, almost as if to make a point before doing something that yields the results he is foreseeing with 100% accuracy somehow
>proceed to miss an impossible amount of times against a shopkeeper

Yeah totally not modified at all, nothing to see here

>>384528912
Because I can't stop deleting and remaking my character in it

>>384519081
"I'VE FOUGHT MUDCRA- *OOOOOO* -BS MORE FEARSOME THAN YOU!"

>>384529972
oh boy sure loved procedurally generated not-LOTRland

>>384529982
The guy had modified the agility and luck values on the npc if I remember right

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>>384530165
Comfy as fuck though, half of Vvardenfell is barren grey landscapes with perpetual ash storms.

ITT: We argue about the vanilla versions of games even though we mod them to a state where they are almost unrecognizable from the vanilla games.

>>384529506
it isn't, this is actually just a costume i purchased, it's literally the ONLY pauldrons i've seen that are somewhat floaty.

>>384530346
This picture makes me angry.

Angry about elves.

>>384530346
So comfy means generic and uninteresting now? I'll take ash storms, swamps and volcanic wastelands any day over this

>>384530458
There's nothing wrong with a more generic setting, Skyrim had a lot of unique areas to it but I don't see people praising its atmosphere.

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>>384519081
>tfw playing as a Breton atronach mage
>tfw wrecking shit
>tfw running out of magika potions

>>384530351
it's almost like games should be judged by their vanilla versions or something.

>>384530569
>I don't see people praising its atmosphere.

you don't go outside of 4chan enough. totally understandable, don't get me wrong, but that's the reason you don't hear that.

>>384530569
>I don't see people praising its atmosphere
Maybe because its shit

>>384530616
But then Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines would be objectively one of the worst games ever since in its vanilla state it's literally unplayable.

>>384530616
When no one actually plays a game in that state it's irrelevant. Pointless hypotheticals are pointless.

>>384530795
>literally unplayable.
*figuratively unplayable, in my opinion

fixed that for you

>>384531028
There's a point in the game where you cannot advance without a console command, I'd say that's literally unplayable.
Thankfully the modding community has cleaned up the game into one of the better cRPGs out there.

>>384524939
But MK's coke addled diatribes are literally the only interesting spin on Tolkien fantasy to exist.

>>384530865
people discuss how how hot their argonian waifus are all the time, which is what mods typically add.

mods generally don't do shit with the world, the quests, the music, the voice acting, the lore and all the other shit people actually discuss.

>>384531252
better, you can't even run the game without modding it.

>>384530865
The vanilla version is still important because mods can only alter the core gameplay so much. Even if you never play the game without modding it out the ass, your gameplay experience is still going to be heavily influenced by what the game designers did in the vanilla version that modders now have to work with.

Also because consolefags who can only play vanilla, but no one cares about them.

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>>384528132
>swimming while snarling
>"WHY. WON'T. YOU. DIE?!"

>>384530450
I would let Todd use me like a cocksleeve if the next game allows me to obliterate the dominion and put the Human boot right back on the knife ears neck where it belongs

>>384525116
this

Mods that elevated Oblivion to amazing for me, and what I think is required.

Unofficial patches of course, as well as stability mods and fixes.

Realistic Leveling.

Vanilla Combat Enhanced.

Vanilla Combat Enhanced Class Overhaul.

Supreme Magicka.

Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.

With this as a base, Oblivion is amazing.

Feels like I need five times as many mods for Skyrim to make Skyrim even half as good as what these mods do to Oblivion, as well as Oblivion just being great in general.

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Who was your first kill?

>>384532234
It's always those faggots outside the sewers

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>>384527647

>>384519081
HRAH

>>384528912
The disgusting game and character ruining Magicka Stamina system.

It's worse than garbage, it's absolutely atrocious.

>>384532330
>no game set in elsweyr where you get to lead your own khajiit tribe and have a harem of drugged up cats IN SPACE

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>>384527721

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>>384530865
>game gets patched to 1.1
>any and all content that was present in the base game is now irrelevant since nobody plays like that anymore

the vanilla content doesn't go away just because you added some mods.

>>384524206
>psh
>psssst
>pfff
>nothin personnel outsider

>>384526921
Oh man that's some good shit right there.

>>384528743
Kentucky, apparently.

>>384519254
>TES 1
>TES 2

As long as these two games exist your post is impossible.

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What will TES6 be like /v/?

>>384523719
Fucking sitting back on one of those really plush chair sofas that has four identical parts plus matching ottoman, huge bag of chili-powdered mango slices and a fridge stocked with a shitton of the 20oz Bawls cans.


Fuck me no wonder why I got so fucking fat.

>>384533448
Even worse than Fallout 4

>>384533448
Like it shit. Imagine the Fallout 4 treatment and a lore retcon bigger than Oblivion.

>>384533641
>>384533697
You're still going to play it though.

>>384533448
Still no working ladders

>>384526228
Why did Skyrim (first TES game, so idk if others did this) not have the closer to the anatomically correct legs of this game?

>>384533448
It'll be even more casual than Skyrim and somehow removes even more features. Also you'll only be able to play as a human who will be voiced.

>>384531513
>Playing Elder Scrolls on a console
I seriously hope people don't do this.

Does anyone know where I can download a modded version of the game? I'm too lazy to learn how to mod oblivion, and it seems more obtuse then other Bethesda games. Is there like a file floating around of just rebalancing shit and extra lore friendly content?

Voiced ES6 would be fine if they gave you a few voices to choose from. DA:I did it so I don't see why Elder Scrolls can't.

>>384533772
I honestly will buy it on sale if it doesn't have good combat, dialog and quests

>>384527609
What fucking moron wouldn't raise it so you could fuck its zombie brains out?

I want it's second set of dying words to be a cum-gargled "fuck you" when it disintegrates into ash.

>>384533790
Oblivion did it first. Probably because it was easier to make if all races shared the same or similar skeleton, and also as an excuse to let them wear boots again. Also because TES has become less and less "alien" since Morrowind so the beast races were made more human.
I don't think there is one correct answer, there's a lot of design choices that led to it.

>>384529295
>mmo quests
>having to wait for shit to respawn
>a bunch of faggot players running around at all times
>zero immersion possible whatsoever
what is so hard to understand? it's an mmo. it's nothing like the main series.

>>384533772
I'll pirate it because I still love TES enough to at least play it

>>384533448
in my dreams coming right after skyrim lorewise and covering Great War 2.0, probably set in Valenwood but in my dreams Hammerfell and Eleswyr too for full reconquest
in reality will probably be set in one province and be set like a century after skyrim to avoid offending any special snowflakes and making hard lore choices

though theyre in a bit of a pickle here, snce considering how huge Skyrim became I dont see how they cant address the amount of open plot shit they left dangling
>>384521937

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>>384534036
>Voiced ES6 would be fine
no, it's a waste of money and kills immersion

>>384534096
That's understandable, and probably a relief to the modding community. Still though, I'd prefer the larger variation in the races, just so I know what I'm looking at in the distance, tail aside.

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Reminder we already know where VI will take place.

>>384532234
arena grand champion

>>384521797
that must be why its 10/10 soundtrack.