Stormblood

Nothing, game's good

>>384469664
SMN community making life hard for Yoshida, so Yoshida made life hard for SMN in return.

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>usain bolt gets world first on a boss
>feel like you just personally beat the game
>complain on a thavnairian sewing board about it being casual
Why are posturing raiders always so mentally challenged?

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>>384469664
I got my mount and was actually happy about getting one
And I'm fucking very rarely happy about getting ingame shit in the mmos
So nothing
Yoshida is true genius

>No attachment to Ala Mhigo at all as a place or people, they are scumbags and we were conned into helping them
>Almost no content available at launch except roulettes and the two easiest primals in the game
>Everyone is BiS in days as a result of the super easy gear grind
>Had to wait till now for real raid content and even Aquapolis
>Still making people wait long for Diadem 3.0, POTD 2.0, Blitzball, changes to gold saucer, or those so called super primals
>Job balance worse than HW somehow

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Why are the devs afraid of making difficult content?

Do you guys believe wow is in a better spot?

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>dont create enough housing
>instanced apartments dont even have balconies or backyards
>"""windows"""" are literally white rectangles

>>384470216
Video?

>>384470216
The problem is that it demystifies the entire raiding scene and process to the common folk. In early MMOs because raids were so hard few people saw them, and they became something to work toward one day or just imagine. Now all raids are easy enough that everyone can do them just a few days after world first people, and this will happen for all but the laziest people. Then theres nothing else to work on.

>>384469664
No endgame, boring combat, the huge mmo world might aswell not exist because you spend all your time in town or dungeons.

>>384470603
Server limitations please understand. Our servers are made of paper and cannot possibly allow for a glamour log, any more inventory, and more retainer space, any more wards or apartments, or really pretty much anything even though we just upgraded to a supposedly better datacenter

>>384470550
Shit no.

>>384469664
Severe lack of meaningful content, the same thing that has plagued XIV since its inception.

>>384470642
>What are Hunts

>>384470550
In terms of the sheer amount of things you can do, definitely.
It's so ugly compared to XIV though, just compare the NeoExdeath fight to KJ. It's embarrassing how bad WoW looks nowadays.

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>Cole Duncan of Gilgamesh
>Nigger played 635 Frontlines last week
>146 victories
>All his jobs lvl 70
>If we assume all his FL took 15min, nigger "played" 9525 min aka 158 hours.
>Which means he "played" 22 hours per days last week
>Obvious as FUCK that he boted his way
>And SE will never ban his ass
What the fuck SE?

>>384470630
The problem here is that the gearing is super easy, not that the raids are.

The reason those old mmos were tough was because gearing for them was tough. Mechanically they weren't all that.

>>384470979
Nothing kills an MMO for me faster than weekly lockouts. Devs need new ways to give unlimited vertical progress but have it minor to avoid people dominating in PvE by being neets.

free kupo nuts
mol

>>384470550

WoW is just by virtue of being the eldest, but it's devoid of any sort of actual investment by the devs. It's basically Blizzard's funding for all their other projects while they shit out expacs to bait dead-eyed retards to buying it again.

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>>384471187
tataru

>forced to farm shards and crystals to level a crafting class
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

Where my Black Mages at? Any pro tips? Should I not be casting Bliz IV?

>>384471487
You get billions of them through desynthesis, the only one ones you should ever have to farm are Clusters

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>this didnt win the tank design contest

Fuck everything

>>384471726
come on and eat your allagan-o's. They're filled with Tenacity!

>>384470494

Because the community is a bunch of paradoxial cunts. Midcore content is a myth that bad players tell themselves. The less progression breaks there are on acquiring new items, the less "content" there'll be. Savage should not be completed by every player on earth with a functioning brain.

>did well as BLM throughout HW
>do my 3.0 BLM rotation in SB
>SHIT dps
>every once in a while a BLM pulls close numbers to my SAM if not slightly better
What's BLM's real rotation now
Do I just use T3 instead of B4? And use sharpcast off cd for it?
I don't think AF would be that much different

>>384471487
Prices on them sky rocket after expansions but you can make pretty decent gil with certain low level crafts and buy crystals. I don't think I've farmed any manually since the beginning of ARR and I don't really need to buy them all that often. All crafts at 70 currently.

>>384471152
Wow tried that this expansion and Mythic+ got real tiresome real fast. You basically can't do that without making it either mandatory or meaningless.

>>384470952
A short distraction where you teleport to a map, kill the target and fuck off again. Dont even pretend it counts as exploration or takes up nearly as much time as instanced content.

>>384471862
Mythic+ is the best thing about Legion.

>>384470494
Considering how Gordias fucked a lot of people over when it dropped, my guess is they didn't want a repeat of groups getting stuck on Pepsiman or Manipulator for weeks and maybe burn out and stop raiding altogether, maybe 2nd tier will provide a little more challenge.

>>384472167
We're literally in Creator. they said Omega is not going to buttfuck you from the start

>>384472225
And it's actually great, since have a lot of new players.
They will probably gradually make Extreme trials and raid harder with time.

>>384472140
Maybe if you're unemployed.

>>384470967
SE don't care about bots.

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>>384469664
Steam changed the subscription prices for non-US/EU players in so now I have to pay $13 instead of $9. WoW's sub is just $7, so this game is shit now, SHIT!

>>384472337
>Playing on Steam in the first place

>>384471726
Who won?

>>384470849
This thing again.
Yoshi said: he doesn't want ff14 to be a game you have to play every day because people are busy in real life. He said it is totally fine when people resub when content patches hit, he also said that when you're done with the content go play other games or spend time with your family.

Why does wow have so much more content than this game? There is literally nothing to do in FFXIV once you hit max level.

Beneath the gazing stars
Vales deep and forests dark
Betrayed by loyal hands, Her wrath stirred
Bound fast unto our fate
One path, one burden great
Yet ever do our aching souls point Heavensward
Ever ring outs our song
Yes, ever do our aching souls march Heavensward
As they've done for so long

>>384472439
Agreed, ff14 should totally instutute an rng grind and then tune the raids so that only the uttermost autists can clear them. Call Yoshi now.

>>384472413
The game being designed in that fashion and it being """on purpose""" it's not, they just don't get the manpower and money to do more than they currently are since SE figures it wouldn't impact their sub numbers all that much doesn't mean it's not an issue and something WoW is a hell of a lot better at.

>>384472565
What exactly is there to do in wow at max level?

1) raid
2) supplement your raiding
3) play bejewelled
4) ????

>>384472453
To their trespass
We are Witness
Here to pass this
Final sentence
No forgiveness
No deliverance
Only Justice
Only Vengeance
Wills unbending
Faith unending
Stone defending
Now our steel shall sing
Guide us, O mighty Fury
Guide us to victory!

>>384472337
It's a bug and will be fixed. It happened before that. I heard that auto-renewal option in Mogstation still charges the old amount of dosh.

>>384472439
WoW has an endless grind of the same "content" just to keep up.
I prefer how little you need to do in FFXIV to be able to get in the hardest content, it gives me time to play other games too

>>384472683
You can play bejewelled in WoW?
Resubbing right now.

>>384472565
To me, that makes FFXIV the well designed game and WoW the bad one

>>384470494
Yoshida said that the difficulty curve would "reset" in Omega, it won't be a roller coaster like Alexander.
The first tier is supposed to be easy, the second tier will be "midcore audience" memes, and the final tier will be "not Gordias tier but really hard I promise!".

>>384472167
I imagine it's going to be
>Normal
Easy mode
>Savage
Mid Core
>The Super Savage fight
Poopsock tier that only 1% will clear

They could really fucking stick it to players with Super Savage if they wanted:
>No echo buffs
>No nerfs
>Lowest level item sync is always turned on so it can never be above an i330 level.
>Never allowed to be unsynched
>Overtune it to fuck with full parties needing to play 100% perfect in the maximum ilevel the fight allows in fully melded gear to just barely survive whilst dragging on forever.

I personally hope that it's just one big "FUCK YOU" to people that moan the game is too easy. It should be something like Twintania pre-nerf where only 8 people legit cleared it. These kind of fights should become legend for how unconquerable they are for 99% of the playerbase. Let it drop a title that only unlocks if you're in a party that's full of players that haven't cleared it before (ie if one person has the title already, the rest of the group don't get it) to discourage carry jobs. That way there'll be something in the game worth bragging about.

I'd never be able to beat or most likely attempt it, but I don't care. I just want something that only the absolute best of the best could pull off and it'll never be trivialized by nerfs, echo, unsync or item level cheese.

>>384472683
Dailies, bgs, world pvp, transmog farming, world exploring, leveling alts, tons of stuff compared to ffxiv.

Did anyone kill Savage 4 yet, is there a video yet?

>>384472827
Exdeath Savage is far beyond the "midcore audience"

>>384472938
MTQ is uploading a video today.

>>384469664
nothing, you can't get any worse than ARR

>savage content meant to last for 6 months gets cleared in a day

>>384472891
Wait but you're not counting that in xiv.

>>384472938
Only of the transformation from Exdeath to Neo

>>384472701
Dys an sohm in / Our slumber disturbed
Rohs an kyn ala na / All my brothers wake
Mah morn narr / The saviors must perish!
Sahl djahs afah an / Vengeance will be ours
Eorzea!

>>384473000
>one group cleared it means everyone in the game cleared it
lmaoing at you armchair """"""""raiders"""""""'

>>384470849
what? you mean you dont like playing a mmo where you can do the dungeon that drops the best gear once (ONE TIME) per week? i thought all mmo players liked being locked behind artificial walls so they're forced to subscribe to the game longer?

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>can now get the new tomes from pvp
*turns on bot*

can't wait for my easy gear

only problem is coming back to find faggots raging when they realize you're botting

>>384473000
>4.1
>we only get one dungeon this time and also a braindead 24man raid

>>384472891
FFXIV has dailies, PvP, minion, mount and glamour farming, leveling alts (without having to start the whole game over again), deep dungeon, triple triad, chocobo racing, interior design in your house, in addition to hugely better crafting and gathering systems

>>384473185
except crafting has been worthless for most of the game's life

>>384473174
They're releasing only one dungeon to "focus on new kinds of content", so let's hope that will be good

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It's the same shit as heavensward but with a different coat of paint. Not saying the job changes aren't nifty, playing blm is a lot more fun now, but still. Daily roulettes and weekly tome grind.

Maybe the 24man will be unique enough to engage me.

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Don't mind me, just ruining your story

>>384472806
Yeah there's a jewelcraft toy that's a bejewelled minigame. It gives you something to do when losers insist on going and having a smoke every other pull.

>>384473185
Those are all garbage and boring

>>384473297
It has always been the best way to make money (while being a fun alternative to the base gameplay), and currently crafted gear is BiS

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>>384473317
>in a dungeon with 2 BLMs
>they both use Foul at the exact same time

>>384471848
Anon, Thundercloud > Fire iv now. If thundercloud procs you skip a fire iv and cast that shit.

>>384473297
Well that's just not true at all. You're gonna need to try harder.

>>384473367

Except you pretty much said the exact same thing?

>>384472963
Mechanically Neo doesn't look that difficult though. It's a huge step up from 1-3S, sure, but it still looks easily doable for the midcore audience with a few weeks of practice. It's essentially Bahamut Prime all over again, simple mechanics you've seen a thousand times already you have to execute in quick succession while keeping up DPS and primarily raid healing. With the current gear, much less the mechanics, but the healing is what's really the issue. But come back in a couple weeks when everyone has a couple thousand more HP and it will be significantly more lenient and doable even by people that aren't at the top of their game.

>>384473147
I like an mmo where I'm not forced to run that dungeon four hours a day five days a week to keep up with the community's retarded requirements.

>>384473185
>in addition to hugely better crafting and gathering systems

At early levels, yeah. Later on XIV's crafting is needlessly convoluted so much so that you need each one at max to even do it

There's a reason why depending on your server you'll see the same people controlling the market

Crafting is a separate game entirely

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>>384469664
We didn't get to see Lakshmi's tail

>>384473305
But they did that back in the 2.x series whilst still delivering 3 new dungeons. Back in the day we'd get PVP modes along with shit like Gold Saucer and housing and raids and Hildibrand (with exclusive trials) and EX modes along with 3 dungeons.

Now it's 1 dungeon with whatever the Verminion team throw up.

>>384471152
Nothing kills my motivation to achieve anything than "unlimited" """"content""""

>>384473418
>currently
it was used solely for dress up before the newest expansion

>frog sch that only casts adlo then bitches that the rdm didn't manashift him when he runs out
unlocked leveling roulette was a mistake

>>384473317
>It's the same shit as heavensward but with a different coat of paint
This is literally how mmo expacks work
This and game being "p2p+you need to buy expack" are the most retarded criticism I hear about it
I honestly just can't comperhend what's wrong with game being p2p, I would never play f2p and the only b2p I don't consider a shit was guild wars

>>384473437
For real? Even if your thunder dot is still up? I thought the damage over time was equivalent to one Fire IV.

>>384473553
They still did shit like SCoB Savage in the offpatches back then too. 2.0 had much less content draught than HW had and SB most likely is going to have.

>The things you do in your game are pointless and boring but they're important and interesting in my game
>The things you do in your game arent real content but they are in mine

I remember back when people could debate on this site

>>384473474
every game has min/max autists. don't act like ffxiv doesn't. they surely aren't the majority though. as long as you make an attempt with your gear and know how to play, there is not a single MMO in existence whose community would criticize you (aside from the min/max autists)

>>384470603

>apartments
>backyards

Are you genuinely retarded or what?

>>384473642
You always use a thundercloud proc when it's available. does the full tick time in damage plus refreshes the dot. Don't wait for that shit to fall off.

>>384473158
honestly it takes like 2 of casual playing to cap on the new tomes it's pointless to bot for it

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>>384473731
I like both games

>>384473731
>when people could debate on this site
no such thing

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>>384473569
>food and stat potions suddenly don't exist

>>384473512
Dont let people trick you. Its different in SB. Nearly 3/4th of the cross class skills for DoH now are obsolete in rotations or are replaced by freebie skills that all of them get. On top of that crafting at 60+ is literally all 100% macros, even at 1-2 star. When you get a crafter to 60+ now you're basically just playing 2 buttons and watching Netflix.

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>17/0/18 338k on my BLM
>Tfw your last kill is make your GC win
>It's a "MCH with 50% left getting foul in the ass with your Battle fever BLM" kind of kill

Why do people still fall off ledges? Like its the same mechanic every time, ice=don't move.

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>>384472385
It was a good deal at first, being able to pay my sub by selling stuff on market every now and then, plus nice payment options (well, used to be nice, Steam's 3rd party methods are going full retard lately, gift cards are the way to go now).

>>384472706
I hope so. It's not like I will ever find a good alternative to XIV, anyway.

>>384473868
You get those from the MB, silly anon

>do expert roulette 5 times a week
>cap
why even bother being a blight in frontlines

>>384473795
Ok enjoy getting in a heroic tos pug without already overgearing it and hand having teh achievement.

>>384473868
so you're saying the crafting system is good because 2 out of the 8 had a use?

>>384473894
You need to move around when there's ice in O1S, and that seems to be impossible to manage for some players

>>384473970
It says it only gives 40 though. Am I missing something?

>>384473448
>Mechanically Neo doesn't look that difficult though
t. backseat hero

Children of the land answer this
Why must you turn to empty bliss
Tell me why break trust
Why turn the past to dust
Seeking solace in the abyss
Tell me why create
A circle none can break
Why must you let go
The life you were bestowed
This I fear I'll never know!
Never know.....

>>384474053
you get 50 from the dungeon itself for a total of 90

>>384474053
Not him but
Expert DR give 40, the dungeon itself give 50, and get another 40 if you are queue with a new player.

>>384474053
The 70 dgs also give 50 per completion

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>finish main scenario quests
>don't feel like playing anymore

>>384474024
I'm not personally invested into crafting so I'm not aware of what most crafters are capable of, but don't give me this "solely" bullshit.

>>384474024
If you're into crafting, you're going to level up all the classes, because you need every single of them to do good.
Or then you split the classes with a few friends, that's the most fun way to do it

>>384473646

That's complete bullshit.

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>>384473731
wow nice logical fallacy you got there
i win the argument by default, thanks for trying tho

is there anymore content for me after i clear deltascape and just 1 shot EX lakshmi and susano on the first try?

i just hit 70 a few days ago on my monk and i feel content starved already...

>>384474195
You're just about to get into the fun part.
Savage raiding is more accessible than ever before too

>>384474315
You could try raiding

>>384474069
Are you retarded? Look at it. It's simple stacking and spreading to positions you can set way in advance since there is absolutely zero RNG involved. This isn't anything like Manipulator or Melusine where you had to adapt on the fly quite a bit. You can literally make a definite plan for every single attack and your movement and actions will always be the exact same, it's a simple dance, a fairly long one, yes, but a simple dance nontheless. Literally the only thing you have to adapt to in the entire fight (at least down to 20% and it doesn't look like he will do anything new anymore at that point since he just loops) is going to the left or right depending on what debuff color you have on the Sephiroth platform rehash.

>>384469664
How much DPS should i be doing as RDM for savage omegger?

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>Alt Right uses Downburst
>"the wind is pushing me" starts playing
>use my sick gap closer to quickly get away from the fireballs at the edge
>thunder marker appears above my head
>go back the way I came
>slide off the platform because the boss is such an obese fuck that my gap closer moved me a shorter distance than a slide

>>384473819
Goddammit I hate that rotation search results are always fucking reddit threads and they're always wrong.

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>Have to buy Stormblood to get Heavensward

>>384474315
Deltascape Savage obviously.
If you've missed some earlier raids or ex primals (and I bet you have), make or join a Linkshell that does those synced

>>384474485
what is the benefit of doing old content? is there any special gear or mounts i can get?

>>384473305
It'll probably just be 4.1 dungeon, 24 man raid and Shinryu EX. Maybe some PVP shit

>>384474426
Cleared O1S with a 2.3k RDM. The rest of your party needs to be functional

>>384474315
Find a guild and start doing Savage.
Altneratively start collecting mounts, minions, triple triad cards, or even orchestrion scrolls. Silly vanity shit meant to waste your time while you are looking for more meaningful things to do.

>>384473868
Potions' market is fucking gay, it is piss easy to level ALC so people just undercut each other until it is better to just sell the mats instead of crafted potion.
I'm still leveling my classes but so far CRP gave me far more money than these two, with way less effort involved.

>>384474561
Damn son, i dish 3.7k and still got fucked at enrage 10% hp left

>>384474485
Are there Linkshell for old synced content? I really want to do Second-Third Coil but there DF is dead there.

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Why are wagies allowed to clear savage now? Raiding should be the domain of us NEET elites.

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>>384474195
>feel the same
>discover new Hildibrand quest line I must have missed since I last played
Yeah, I'll stick around for this for now.

>>384474551
Gear is just tools to achieve victory, winning fights is the goal.
You could just as well ask what is the benefit to play video games in the first place

>>384474551
Each EX primal has a mount, and gear that you might want for glamour purposes (or to break down and make better gear with better glamours)

they tend to try and make older content relevant by doing shit like making relic materials accessible by doing older raids and whatnot.

>>384474438
I feel like this mechanic was made with SAM in mind
Having a dash and a back jump is so good

>>384474726
You will get your super savage in 4.1, don't worry.

>>384474680
There are. If you can't find one, make it yourself, there are always plenty of people that are interested

>ARR released with 3 primals, an actually interesting relic quest with unique bosses, and 5 raid rooms
>2.1 released 4 remixed bosses, a 24-man and more max ilvl gear for more somewhat horizontal progression


Why can't they go back to the 2.0-2.1 formula. Now we only get 2 primals every expac, 1 primal every update, a relic quest that is just korean grinding old content, far more linear progression system, and a raid that's just a boss room.

>>384472891
And the crux is rng gear treadmill and overtuned raids so only people who grind like mad have the gear to clear them. All the other stuff you mentioned can be done in ff14 too + shit like chocobo racing, golden saucer and whatnot. And ff14 actually has a glamour game.

>>384474726
Get a job, bum. When you move out you can watch your hentai at full volume and not have to worry about mom hearing.

>>384470620
There isn't one. Only one group cleared.

>PLD spends all of HW getting meme'd on and asking for help
>get fucking nothing
>WAR and SCHfags knocked off their pedestal for a month
>whine and bitch until Papa Yoshi puts them back up top immediately
>DRK meanwhile gets fucking nothing that it actually needs

What horseshit, WAR and SCHfags are such cancer

>>384474898
New game phase is over. Now we're at milking phase

>>384475072
drk didn't really need anything
making DA Quiet worth using was neat though and I'm not going to turn down free potency

>>384474651
How were your other dps? My first pull today was a complete shitshow (3.5k, 3.2k, 3.0k i just woke up, 2.9k) and we made it to 5% enrage
At the end I and another pulled 3.8k and we cleared handily

>>384474898
This is a pretty controversial opinion, but while the patches had a bigger number of fights back then, I'd say the ones nowadays have significantly higher quality

>>384475130
DRK really needs some good AoE. Wish Dark Passage wasn't so shit.

>>384475290
what the fuck? DRK is the strongest aoe tank by several miles

>>384475130
It needs help somewhere, as of 4.05 it is firmly in the cuckshed, there's no reason to take one over PLD/WAR.

>>384475262
MSQ wise they definitely are of much higher quality. I'd argue that as far as primals, dungeons, and all that are concerned there hasn't changed much overall though

>>384474898

>why can't they go back to the pivotal 1st patch of a new MMO system

>>384475229
When we die it goes like 3.2 3.0 3.0 2.9 If we don't it goes 3.7 3.6 3.5 3.4 but we still wipe at enrage, so i was thinking my DPS was bad and i needed 4k

>Somehow winning the Exdeath minion in a party of mostly first timers with a 23

Neat

>>384474898
>5 raid rooms

Did you get brain damage and forget that T3 is literally fucking nothing and that T4 was just a bunch of trash mobs ported in from FFXIII?

>>384475389
>world first o4s was DRK/PLD
>every video/screenshot of o4s prog is DRK/PLD
dont overestimate your buff WARcucks, DRK is really fucking strong for progression.

>>384475408
Primals and raids are definitely much more intricate now.
The first ex trials are less complex than some current dungeon bosses (although much more punishing of course), and the mechanics in First Coil and LotA are a mess

>>384475598
Blackest night is a godsend

>>384475072

I was a SCH arguing that SCH was fine in these threads but all I got were fuckwits who kept saying how unplayable SCH was.

WARfags are cancer though, but so far the DPS difference hasn't really widened. WAR does a good bit more than PLD/DRK on dummy but that's because they can apply their own slashing.

>>384475542
I kind of liked T3 the first runs. But yeah, it is useless.
The scenery is godtier though.

>>384470494
>Devs create difficult content
>Obsolete it by providing better gear for easy mode content four months later

That was the whole reason I quit back in 2.1, I did Lab, decided I didn't want to keep coming back six weeks in a row to get everything to just have to do it all over again a little while later.

I think I wouldn't feel as mad if it was more like a relic grind and players had to complete all content up to the latest to get something current. Having a set of artifact armor that you upgraded every step of the way (With rare token drops to fill in a few spots or provide a boost to iLvls for a patch or two) would be a lot more interesting than simply crossing my fingers I wind up with 340 gear this month.

>>384474898
During ARR they had access to 100% of 1.0 content to savage and rebuild so it could be implemented on the the new engine.
Now they are running out of 1.0 things to savage, so they have to rely on other games while actually creating new content around it.
Also,
>an actually interesting relic quest with unique bosses
That is bullshit and you know it, especially the "unique bosses" part. Recycling leveling bosses and putting them in their own instances that have nothing else to offer was a terrible idea.

>>384475679
its the coolest new tank ability by a mile
i can't even begin to imagine how fucking terrible we'd be without it

>>384475679
Can we lower the unlock lvl to 60, please? DRK is really freaking bad before max level.

>>384475598
I'm not even a WARfag, but once people get gear/learn the fights people are gonna wanna phase DRK out for WAR most likely because MUH DEEPS BOSS DIES TWO SECONDS FASTER MUST HAVE.

How do I stop dying as melee DPS?

>>384476302
Stop facing the bosses. Most bosses cleaves your ass
Stay away from the AoE
Pray you don't have a shitty tank

>>384475986

They'd take WAR/DRK in that case. PLD's inability to block during their lengthened holy spirit is actually cancer for some of these fights.

>>384476302
Move out of the red circles, DRG

>>384476452
>ever switching out PLD

L O L

>>384475986
What's wrong with that? People don't have lives and don't want to waste time.

What the fuck is Hydaelyn up to anyway? Last I heard she went off to that realm of pure light, but she's literally done fuckall since then.

Is she the final boss?

>>384476523
two bee hunnest the real problem are the people who don't have clears yet copy the tier 1 groups farm compositions

>>384476517

With fully genji gear, the fights will be shortened enough that tanks have 10x the flexibility in terms of cooldowns. V3s white hole and dragon'll probably die before they get more than 3 hits out, v1 and v2 are both most likely to be 5-6 minute fights when speedran. V3s probably around 8 min. At that speed, the "utility" that PLD has is excessive. Intervention is unneeded when a tank swap every 2 crit hits is enough to guarentee awareness or a heavy cooldown for each one.

>>384476523
Outlined here >>384475072

These fags aren't automatic picks abd they cry and scream until they get buffed right back up almost immediately. No other jobs get this sort of preferential treatment, even AST took over a year to get slotted into raids consistently.

>>384475714
Thats pretty much the reason you shouldnt play any modern mmo.

>>384476843
PLD is still parsing practically the same as WAR even post nerf.

>>384476541
After eating all that light she better come back and do shit again, she has rrally done fuckall since Ultima.

Maybe we'll get a third tier of light blessing?

>>384476960

Because most people ran PLD/DRK for a month, they aren't going to just switch to WAR on savage release.

>>384476843
All these assumptions.
PLD still hits stronger than WAR even after the nerf while still having shelltron to block 20% damage and get MP back for another Holy Spirit. Meanwhile WAR won't change to defia ce because muuuuh Fell Cleave!

>>384477113
>tfw SB WAR is literally a monkey paw "give us more fell cleave"!

>>384477037
She got rid of Minfillia for us at least.

>>384477113
> Meanwhile WAR won't change to defia ce because muuuuh Fell Cleave!

why not?... now changing stance doesnt consume half of your bar. stay on tank stance and just change to hit 6 fellcleaves in a row is pretty good

>>384477182
>the WAR in my group is a grill who lacks confidence so she doesn't meme about MUH FELL CLEAVES all day but she's also only barely passable as a tank

Not sure how to feel

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I'm betting Lyse's MSQ outfit will end up on the mogstation and it will become the new slutglam everyone will use.

>>384475679
>Literally a slightly weaker manaward every 15s

this shit seems cool as fuck, I have DRK to 60 and am considering leveling it

>>384470550
it will always be in a better spot as long as xiv's outdoor content is this shit

dungeon/raid wise I'd say casually XIV is better but for the hardcore audience WoW is still the game

>>384477335
Because defiance doesn't mean jack shit. You only get a 20% heal boost fur a 20% damage penalty. Changing to Defiance for a tank buster is useless and you guys won't use inner beast anyway.

>>384475919
They should really give you bloodspiller earlier on, at least. having to wait till 68 before theres meaningful change in your rotation is pretty agonising

>>384477559

For poopsockers and NEETs, artifact grind and RNG legos are not fun.

>>384477494
not before Edda slutgams, which are already in the files

>>384477562
You also get a boosted health pool don't forget.

>>384477679
>pretty agonizing
Pain is your strength remember

>>384471187
>free kupo nut quest

>misspell the word infront of 4 crafters

>teleport back to my FC house and logoff for the dat

>>384477562
but i do use inner beast, and defiance with thrill of battle is pretty good

>>384477562

As it's always been like since 3.x, Defiance was never that useful, but Holmgang/Vengeance is more than enough cds for WAR to use. Especially in this tier where damage on the tanks is far apart.

should i skip farming for shire gear and just continue doing msq?

>>384477679
At least you're not MNK, who get a gimped Forbbidden chakra from lvl 52 to 62

>>384477559
ff14 raids are more challenging mechanically, wow relies on gear shit

>>384471187
>dressed in the full Garlean #55 outfit
>"Your papers please, prove you aren't a filthy Mol."

>>384469664
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

HOW DARE A CONTROLLER PLAYER GET WORLD FIRST

REEEEEEEEEEE

THEY WERE MEANT TO BE SHITTTT

EU PLAYERS WERE MEANT TO BE BAAAAAAAAAAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Si9v-jbIQ&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Si9v-jbIQ&feature=youtu.be

>>384472025
>you teleport to a map
There
You just said one of the biggest problem of modern MMO
FAST TRAVEL SUCK

>>384478275
>EU PLAYERS WERE MEANT TO BE BAAAAAAAAAAD
Aren't most of the world first on WoW taken by EU players?

>>384478275
Are you perhaps angered?

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Is it too late to get into WoW?

I need raid content that lasts longer than a few weeks.

>>384478803
it was too late to get into wow 5 years ago

>>384469664
Can a nigger link the SAM video chaining 80K crit

>>384478095
Buy what you can afford, then continue msq, unless you like farming poetics

What are the preferred secondary stats for WAR? I assume DH is first since it's so strong right now, but what about second and third preference?

>>384478803
never too late

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>tfw no nanamo lala gf to protect and gently lewd

Feels so bad guys

>>384479046
lalas (PC more than NPC) are unironically one of the worst things about ffxiv

>>384477037
Well the WoL has pretty much been handling shit on their own without any need for guidance, she might pop back up at the end of Stormblood to foreshadow some shit

>>384479046
>not having her wind up minion

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>>384479046
>gently

Popotoes are cockthirsty whores anon, they'll wring you dry.

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If you are bored of the wow/ffxiv/rift type of MMO, why not give GW2 or Tera a try? They've got great gameplay, combat wise.
Tera is f2p with one of the least p2w cash shops ever and GW2 has not only improved a lot since launch where it had practically no endgame (now it does), but it's also still the third most populated MMO

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>>384479046
>tfw no Tataru gf to manage your broke-ass finances and NTR you with high profile wealthy men

>>384479428
Tataru is cute!

>>384479229
I wonder how awkward it must have been for others to see you with that minion after Nanamo gets poisoned.

>>384479326
Wait. Why?

>>384478803
Oh you already cleared V4S? Grats man.

>>384479407
>if you're bored with hotkey mmos, why nto play hotkey-lite???
play runescape or eve online like a fucking man

>>384478803
There are more of them, but I think the fights in WoW are much less fun than the ones in FFXIV, and their presentation is incredibly dull

>>384479428
I wanna mash Tatarus puffy potato pussy till I sour cream.

>>384479326
>Popotoes are moneythirsty whores
fix'd

>>384479639
I already played Eve for years. It's not comparable to the other mmos in any way. But sure, it's good.

Runescape is just trash.

>>384479428
My lala retainer already does those things.

>>384471726
btw did the healer and caster gear from the contest get implemented yet? i didnt see them

>>384470630
You're mentally retarded if you think most people will be able to beat Halicarnassus or Neo Exdeath in only a few days after release.

>>384479817
>Runescape is just trash.
>doesn't like comfy grinding games
fuck you

>>384473814
>what is a ground floor
>What is an instanced rectangle

Hell you could have beachfront condos or fucking moonbases because its instanced you fucking retard

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>>384479490
a cute slut.

>>384469664
they fucked up and dumbed down the most interesting job to play with (scholar of course)

Can anyone recommend me a new ui for ACT?
The one I used in 3.0 doesn't affiche SAM and RDM job sign, and I would like the one that show the DPS bar that some raider are using too!

>>384480008
Why does it feel like the English translators for FFXIV always have a thesaurus open looking for the most obscure synonym?

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ESTINIEN WAS A MAN
I mean
He was a DRAGOON
man

>>384480123
>paramour is obscure
When do you finish middle school, little guy? :)

>>384479407
Because Tera has fuckall content and is piss easy while also being ugly as fuck and pandering to lolicons.

GW2 has great world design, that's it. Everything else is ass, be it story, combat, class design, endgame content, PvP and so on.

>>384480197
How often do you use the word "gallivant"?

I have DRK at 67. What about The Blackest Night makes DRK more fun? Checking the skill, it mostly looks like a vehicle to use Bloodspiller/Quietus. That combined with the other methods to gain blood gauge means a lot of the same few skills. Is that what DRK at 70 is?

>>384480239
GW2's combat is better than that of WoW/FFXIV by the nature of how it works with the dodging etc.

And clearly its PvP is vastly superior to that of FFXIV

>>384480243
Just because it isn't used in everyday speech doesn't mean it's obscure you fucking illiterate piece of shit.

>>384469664
It's an MMO for one.

>>384479898
No, they based this whole set of tome gear on the tank contest design. They'll probably do the same thing for the other designs, eventually.

>>384479326
How does sex with a Lala even work?

>>384480265
We can OT better now and you have a versatile tool you can use in a number of scenarios. It's a DPS increase if you use it right and a party survivability boost if required. What's not to like?

>>384480265
its a very potent defensive ability that when used correctly translates directly into more damage
smaller things like the fact it instantly fills half your blood gauge meaning you need to micromanage a bit more to ensure you dont overcap increase the complexity and fun

>>384480331
That's exactly what it means. Words that no one ever uses. Archaic words of ye olde times.
That's what FFXIV is all about in English.

>>384480363
very carefully.

>>384480020

Rainbowmage

>>384480409
It's not archaic. It's a normal word that still gets plenty of use today. You just don't hear it on the fucking street every day.

>>384480265
I'm leveling DRK too, I'm guessing it is basically a "parry" button that rewards you with a "counter attack" if timed right, similar SAM's Third Eye.

>>384480409
Gallivanting isn't archaic or obscure. Some times people don't use the most efficient basic words to describe what they mean, which is why multiple words can mean the same thing in a technical sense but be modified by tone and context to convey meaning or purpose.

Why are you dumb? Why do people just look for shit to complain about?

>>384480189
or maybe he was just a dragon

>>384480363
Ever used a loli shaped onahole? It's like that.

>>384480321
>GW2 is better because of a "pls dont hurt me" button
t. lolDRG

>>384480321
>GW2's combat is better than that of WoW/FFXIV
It absolutely isn't. The dodging isn't any better than walking out of damage areas, and mashing a couple of buttons.
There is no party synergy or being good at your class, just a pile of players running at things

>>384480606
I must needs think about this

>>384480681
That's a good thing. Holy trinity is outdated.

>>384471726
it looks like the replica heavy allagan set dyed black

>>384480447
That's the one I've been using tho.

>>384480321
Did you even play WvW? That shit was cancer.

>>384480882
You can mod in the SAM and RDM icons. Go search on Reddit it's a simple xml edit.

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>50/60 Roulette
>Snowcloak
>Trial Roulette
>The Steps of Faith

>>384480936
I didn't say WvW. I mean the small scale PvP.

>>384480409
In the context of the conversation what word would be more appropriate than gallivanting, without seeming even more out of place?

"Sleeping around" or making shit up like "slutting" would just be beating you over the head with it. Would you rather him say "DON'T WORRY BRO SHE IS NOT WANDERING AROUND HAVING SEX WITH ALL THESE DUDES." I don't understand fully why pepper get offended by any occurrence of flowery language. It's not even the usual YE HATH SHALT bullshit

>>384480683
That sounds awkward but isn't incorrect. It's a very different argument than thinking a perfectly normal word is weird because it's too flowery for you.

>>384480981
What so bad about Snowcloak? The music is pretty comfy

>>384480997
>offended
come on now
All I'm saying is that they are going out of their way Just look at how often they use "must needs", I'm pretty sure I've already read it about 600 times.

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>>384480981
>I had this exact roulette yesterday

>>384481098
It's not bad, but I seem to get put in Snowcloak a lot when I roulette

>>384481098
Everything about it is boring, especially when tanking. The music would be nice for an overworld theme but not a dungeon one.

>>384480982
Even that was much worse. The Feast isn't particularly great or anything but it's a hell of a lot better than invisible thieves zipping around murdering everyone and the downed mechanic in gw2 is interesting in PvP but a fucking mistake it PvP. Some classes are worthless when downed and some can still easily obliterate people with their unique downed skills, it's a bad mechanic.

>>384481098
Midboss is a nightmare if the tank doesn't know what they're doing.

>>384481175
>why are they consistent in applying language quirks???

>>384480981
>When the game keeps putting you in the same dungeon/trial every day.

Ive fucking had keeper of the lake 3 times in a row now. At this point I will soon forget how to run all the other cool 50/60 dungeons.

>>384481265
Woosp meant interesting in PvE

>>384480981
Snowcloak isn't bad but seriously fuck steps of faith. Even with the nerfs it's still a awful trial. Who thought it was a good idea to stand under a dragons anus and dick for 8 minutes?

>>384481416
There are supposed to be more involved mechanics, but shitters complained until everyone could completely ignore those.

>>384481175
You were saying Gallivanting is archaic and shouldn't be used, or is somehow pretentious, because you personally don't hear it a lot. Many people don't need to crack a thesaurus to find better words to fit what they're trying to say. Assuming someone is a try-hard for having a larger vocabulary promotes ignorance since there is little downside to learning new words and ways to use them throughout your life.

>>384481416

>Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
>Its the same shit but you poke the dragon's toes for about 15min

Fucking nips.

>>384480809
>Far superior alternative is outdated

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>>384481305
>mfw remembering the first time I ran Snowcloak
I don't think I've ever felt more embarrassed as a tank than I did then

>>384481416
I loved Steps of Faith the first time I played it. It felt pretty epic.
I would never play it again though.

>>384481486
I know there are cannons and dragon killers but only 2 people need to handle it. The rest have to follow under a dragons crotch and avoid getting stomped on. As a DPS it's like hitting a moving Target dummy.

The three biggest mistakes of FFXIV

1. Not having specs. Now DRK is forced to be a tank when it should be able to be both tank and dps depending on your spec.
2. Largely boring races.
3. Having to run on console.

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>>384480981
>Leveling Roulette
>>>>>>>>>>>Aurum Vale

>>384481553
Yeah except when people bitched about Lao Shan Lung they just made him harder by forcing you to use every bit of artillery at your disposal or you'll fail.

>>384481628
Every job can DPS in FFXIV, some of them just have an extra responsibility on top of that

>>384481628
>1. Not having specs
Literally no reason for these to be in the game when you can just level a DPS job on the side

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>>384481628
FFXI ran on a PS2 and was a much better MMO than xiv though

>>384481740
And how does that let me dps with a giant two handed sword?

>>384481638
I'd actually rather get that then Dzmael Darkhold

>>384481548
At least the monsters make a effort to move around the field, the aggro is random, and it's possible to die in 2 hits if you're careless forcing you to make the best use of items and your weapon choice.

>>384481628
Specs are a meme, especially in FFXIV. It's better to create a whole new job instead of trying to fit two roles in a single job.
Same result, less balance issues and new weapons/animations to look at.

>>384481305
Type in "feeeze the rabbits, and i'll handle the rest"
And you just saved the run, maybe you'll even get a couple comms as dps

>>384481628
1. Melee classes all suck ass
2. Everything that gives xp is shit you have to queue for
3. Having to run on console

>>384481843
>turn off Grit
Congratulations, you are now a DPS.

>>384477830
>dat
>dat
>dat

>>384481638
>not sastasha

>>384481795
You spent more time walking and talking in XI than actually fighting. That's the power of dial up netcode.

>>384481985
Let me know when I can apply to statics as a dps DRK
:^)

>>384482040
What is the off tank position? :^)

>>384482034
lmao i kno what kind of mmo has more things to do than fight? XD

>>384481976
DOS queue times are incredibly short compared to average right now and up until 60 PoTD gives you good xp and doesn't even have queue times.

>>384482040
In two weeks or so, but I believe that WAR will steal that spot from you.

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>That Neo Exdeath phase transition

>50/60 roulette
>sohm al
>got a ninja and a rdm for my deeps
>not a single goad, doton, katon or death blossom to be seen
This guy literally recasted every 40 seconds huton and dared to raiton a single worm when there's literally 12 of them in a normal pull. Dear fucking lord.

>>384478275
The game is so easy you can finish it on controller. That doesnt mean M&K isnt objectively better.

>>384482210
if I wanted to pay a monthly sub fee for a chat room, I would have used AOL in 2003.

>pf for savage 1
>people still fall off on the first fucking knockback
>party leader disbands after one wipe

What the fuck is wrong with these people. People don't leave this fast in fucking wow.

>>384478275
More EU players had world firsts in XIV than any other region.
Stay mad

>>384473297
The crafted gear is freakin OP right now.

>Three (3) materia VIs in every piece
>Tank accs have slightly less STR than 270 STR accs in addition to secondaries
Like shit nigga, wtf am I doing normal raids for?

>>384482667
Yeah, and MMOs were never for faggots like you. Socializing was the point of the genre. You faggots treating it like a spreadsheet simulator killed it.

>>384482683
Shitters looking to get carried. You just have to keep trying, eventually you'll find like-minded people that'll stay, learn and actually know their job to push enough DPS to actually get a clear. It's easier if you're the party leader, fire up a parser and kick people yourself, seriously finding two competent healers was fucking miserable.

That's how I've downed V1 and V2 at least. I think imma need a static for the last two though.

>>384482683
Use duty finder. That worked for me, the second group was good so we got together again with party finder later and killed it.

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I hate that this MSQ skip is selling. We may never get a real fix for past and future questing.

>>384482813
The reason you socialized in FFXI was not only because it was incredibly solo unfriendly but because there was so much downtime outside of fights and inside of fights. If you thought 2.5s GCD was bad in FFXIV, imagine using 10s to navigate a menu with a controller just to execute 1 spell. Gave players enough time to write a essay in chat.

>>384482683
>be a raid leader
>ask for people with experience
>they die to the easiest attack
honestly how are you supposed to react?

Do I open with Holy Spirit spam or FoF?

>>384471848
skip b4 unless you have leylines
now you can use every proc and not worry about movement
make sure you pair triplecast with leylines
if foul doesn't line up with umbral, literally b1 > b4 without leylines

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>>384482605
At least your NIN used his mudras, my last run had a NIN that only used aeolian combo an assassinate.
No huton, no raiton, no magic ninja tricks at all, no shadow fang, no offensive cooldowns, nothing at fucking all.

>>384478275
>the controller player messes up and almost wipes the group
Really flows the aether.

>>384471289
>WoW is just by virtue of being the eldest
Everquest had an expansion just last year.

>>384482683
a lot of people try to come into savage without materia 6 and consumables and wonder why they wipe to enrage. its pretty retarded.

>>384483113
Im no pld, but i think if you're mting you open with fof, otherwise scat holy spirit

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>>384473883
As a melee player in PvP, fuck your job, your damage type and everything they stand for
>midare nerfed in PvP
Cause I didn't have enough problems

>>384482683
>doing savage without a static
why? you're just setting yourself up for failure. it's hiring people for a job without any resume.

>>384483113
Spirit spam first, then use FoF while doing your riot combo to do more damage and regen MP for the next requiescat

>>384482983
Yoshida said he is rebalancing Labyrinth of the Ancients to reduce the required number of tanks, so there is still hope.

>DF Turn 5 because why not
>Healer ragequits after first wipe
I'm sorry that Raid isn't for you, buddy.
We won at the end with a new healer.

>yesterday morning, clear o1s blind with randoms in one sitting
>yesterday night try again for shits and giggles, everyone is a fucking drooling tard
>try o2s right now in the morning, clear easy
DONT PLAY IN MURRICAN WEST COAST NIGHT TIME

>>384483437
That's why you play DRK and just shit on every mage out there.

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>"Unable to obtain Cracked Cluster. Inventory full."

>>384483472
I think roulette is a good mechanic for making people play old content. It needs adjustments though like reporting ragequits and harder penalizations.

>>384483612
>Not keeping at least 1 page clear at all times
Throw out your stupid elixirs

>>384483745
But i might need them

>>384482983
>pay money to have less content and less things to do
what a great idea

>>384483975
throw out your shitty glamour then or crafting materials you never use. you honestly don't need that 99x stack of iron ore you've been carrying since level 15

>his static didn't down o4s yet
Holy fuck I expected this place to be better than /xivg/, but I guess you're equally trash.

>>384484079
when the content is just the same shit recycled hundreds of times it's no wonder people want to skip it to see actual new content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46s8AFupevM

>>384484158

Are you an angered player proud of his midcore raid clear.

>>384474483
>have to buy better xpac to get worse xpac
What were they THINKING

>>384475408
I think the quality of primals has skyrocketed. Since PS3 got binned, they've cranked up the already great presentation to 11.
>being a tank on Susano

>>384483612
>tfw two pages full of tokens, materia and shit that's outdated

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>>384484106
>tfw been carrying 20 different types of logs and lumber for a long time
>havent crafted in forever

>>384469664
The issue in my opinion is that they made the first few bosses a bit too easy. Yesterday at 1am after a long ass time I managed to see enrage in my 2nd pull ever for O1S.
I don't think all the budget of a raid should go just on the last few bosses.
Sure, make them accesible to a lot more people, but not this A9S easy again.
At least they finished this tier after I got out of class, unlike last time.

>>384484345
That Rules of Nature shit was awesome

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I'm starting to get into my anti-MMO fugue state with Stormblood.

>No fucking content at end game
>Only option is to level other jobs or disciples
>No point in doing dailies like roulettes once you're geared, unless you want to get on another job you don't have leveled
>0 fucking reason to dungeons

It's so fucking empty and boring at end game. It's legitimately worse than Legion was at launch.

>>384479326
>Lamimi is a healslut but consumate professional that isnt distracted by dick while on the job and waits til after

This is how healsluts should be.

>>384484617
>No fucking content at end game
you cleared savage already anon?

>>384484617

>I don't wanna
>I don't wanna
>I don't wanna
>I don't wanna

Yeah, grinding for legos was amazing content and a garbage raid with a final missing texture boss was great for 7.0.