>When you release a game so fucking shit that you kill your

>>384468270
why cant they just remake the OG dow?

>>384468270
>tfw DoW1 base building fags killed DoW

>>384468334
because DoW II had the best gameplay
They just needed to succesfully integrate both games

8th Edition or Dawn of War III?

>>384468415
I wish you were right, even the base building is dog shit in DoW3 and limited as fuck

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>>384468270
You were warned.

>>384468460
but anon i want to make big armies

>>384468270
At this moment i just wish they let some other studio take care of the franchise

>>384468334
>>384468415
>>384468460
>dow1 fags want base building and big armies with cool units
>dow2 fags want deep squad level combat and customisation
>relic manages to disappoint both at the same time by delivering huge armies of paper units with nearly no customisation, and add dumb as fuck elite units to fuck shit up even more

impressive failure desu

>>384468658

Just give CA the 40k franchise and let them brainstorm about how to make a 40k total war game that isn't complete shit

>>384468770
>delivering huge armies of paper units with nearly no customisation

That was the biggest offense to me

I am playing a RTS with marshmallow units that melt at any heat

Its like trying to control a wet toilet paper army

>>384468796
40k would make for a better total war game than warhammer fantasy.

imagine something like dark crusade's campaign, but bigger, not shitty, and with proper AAA game levels of polish.

>>384468796
>good developers
>touching 40k after DoW 3

>>384468863
But isn't it SO COOL WHEN GABRIEL MEMEGELOS COMES IN AND KILLS ONE HUNDRED OF YOUR UNITS ALL BY HIMSELF ANON?!?!


Fuck Relic, I legitimately hope they get shut down

>>384468270
Reality is nobody gives a shit about RTS anymore. New RTS in a popular franchise comes out, people play and suddenly they realize that RTS never was good. Their nostalgia is ruined and the fanbase disappears. Didn't the same thing happened with Starcraft 2 and Blitzkrieg 3? RTS will never be great again. Treasure your memories.

>>384468270
>pissed away all your fan base
It's like RTS fan base gives a shit about anything which is not 15+ years old necro games

>>384468863
yeah shit sucks. nearly all infantry feels like fucking starcraft space marines - they die like flies as soon as any kind of area damage unit even looks their way.
in dawn of war 1, even shitty chaos cultists and imperial guardsmen were able to hold out under fire for longer than even high level infantry does in dow3.
removal of morale also didnt do the game any good

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>>384468936
>40k would make for a better total war game than warhammer fantasy.
Except for 40k units not fighting in rigid formations like Total War and tabletop fantasy units do.

>>384468936
Yes pls, i would take Total War 40k over rts anytime

>dow was always shit
>semi-controlling dumb little squads is god damn stupid and you know it
>people only like it because they're scared of playing a real RTS

any questions?

>>384469097
Yes. People cared about RTS in 1996 when there literally nothing to play on PC and games like AOE and C&C blew everyone's mind with production values. Since then, better things appeared and the only ones who care about this genre is people who are literally unable to accept new things. And who are not worth anything as audience because they only care about remakes, at best.

>>384469023
to be fair, in dow1 an early hero would mop the floor with regular infantry, too.
but the difference is that it would take him like 3 minutes to completely wipe a squad, and if it was constantly reinforced then he would never get through it. this would leave the infantry plenty of time to retreat to a better position or get bailed out by additional units (possible a hero of their own)

meanwhile in dow3 an early elite unit chews through multple infantry squads in like 30 seconds. it's insane.

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>>384468796
>40k total war
>play as imperium
>spend more time suppressing heresy and influences of the warp in the overworld than starting actual battles
>lose game cause of mass exterminatus your own planets
sounds fun

>>384468936
total war doesn't work with anything which doesn't involve rigid formations, that's why they won't do WW1 and beyond

>>384469210
>, i would take Total War 40k
In your dreams, enjoy DoWIII and Eternal Crusade

>>384469349
>literally nothing to play on PC
Duke 3D, Quake, Civ 2, Diablo.

>40k total war
just play barbarian invasion as wre on hardest with no gamey tactics

>>384469179
>>384469437
i meant mostly the campaign gameplay
the battle gameplay obviously needs to be different. probably more RTS style and less total war style - smaller squads, faster movement, etc

>Being mad about Relic continuing to fuck up
>Not being mad about Eternal Crusade based on what was initially promised

E T E R N A L L Y M A D

The biggest sin is the shit campaign mode. DoW was never some eSports game, it was just fun stuff with Warhammer flavor. DoW3 just feels fucking soulless and makes me wonder why it's even a 40k game since it's nothing like the source material, let alone the previous entries in the DoW series.

>>384468270

So just like Games Workshop then?

POTTERY

>>384468464

Neither

play Flames of War instead.

>>384469645
>smaller squads
>not mass affixing bayonets as I.G and sending the whole regiment forward

>>384468270
How hard it to either:
- take the best parts of dow1 and 2
- improve on dow1 formula
- improve on dow2 formula (which is streamlined CoH)

Weak voice work, no mechanics from the previous games. Nobody wanted the SC2 apm based style of gameplay, nor moba modes. A piece of shit with a 40k sticker on it. It deserves every negative review it got.

They sure managed to capture the "under 14" audience that thinks it will get free games if it keeps defending the game blindly by repeating the same shit over and over.

And Gorb is still a cuck, moderating Relic forums, instead of feeding his child or stopping his wife from fucking the neighbor.

>>384469987
GW is actually doing great right now and fixing a lot of previous fuck ups

>>384469987
Ackchyually GW has been doing well recently.
>>384470069
I already do.
Germans, Brits, and Italians.

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>>384470181

t. GW shill

Sad!

>>384470156
They had to attract new audiences because rts fags don't care about anything but their necroshit. They failed, but if they didn't try pandering to moba crowd it would be instant, 100% DOA fail. Like it still was, but at least they were able to tell "maybe it won't fail" before release.

>>384470283
What's the problem here, skull face marines have existed since day one

>>384470354
DUMB SHITEATING DRONE FUCKING LEAVE

>>384470181

>fixing a lot of previous fuck ups

Except for Age of Sigmar

>>384470343
Stop this meme. They would have gotten smaller but relatively modest sales had they pandered to the original fanbase. Instead they spent loads on advertising and trying to attract MOBA kids and got NO fanbase and a massive black hole of unprofitable junk

>40kkids before DoW III release
>who need Fantasy
>it's DoA, enjoy WoC DLC
>DoW III will be much better
>40kkids after DoW III
>c-c-can we have 40k Total War, i-i-it will be much better than Fantsy
>a-a-at least we have Eternal Crusade, it's not all bad
Looks like we must to kick you once again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q51LZ2HpbE

>>384470409
Autism

>>384469987
The only thing GW did for DoW3 was to keep them in check on how they present the lore, models and canon colors schemes. That's why the army painter is bare bones for most Eldar units.

>>384470482
>original fanbase
Original fanbase of what? Look at any DoW thread and it's constant bitching between Dark Crusade fans, Soul Storm fans and DoW 2 fans. They couldn't appeal to all three at once.

I cannot understand what has gotten into Relic with this project.

It's like they sat in a room eating doritos and drinking coke 5 years and then they came up with this.

Fuck this shit man, DoW was one of my favourite things ever. I will continue to play DoW 1 and 2 up to 40 years ffs.

>>384470354

The problem is they look like something a 12 year made after playing too much Call of Duty.

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>>384470467
Financially speaking AoS is success, especially in comparison to how Fantasy was doing.

Not that I have any idea what people like about AoS but money speaks.

>>384470651
You just described the entire 40k universe, what's the issue?

>>384470467
But Age of Sigmar has improved substantially since release and is far more fun to play than WHFB ever was, it also sells better.

Sadly they will never be able to fix the lore.

>>384470651
Anon...
>>384470662
>Financially speaking AoS is success, especially in comparison to how Fantasy was doing.
So you got a source with actual numbers?

>>384470651
Are you actually bothered that there are skulls in the WH40k universe?

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>>384470651
So their MO since they began in other words.

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>>384470651
Oh yeah anon, Space Marines with skull masks? How ridiculous!!!

>>384470659
>lets do everything like the best RTS game ever did, but better!
Yeah, and that worked real well for them. That shit didn't sell,

>>384470717
>and is far more fun to play than WHFB
>2 units spam
>fun

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>>384470651
>complaining about skulls 40k
QUICK

Count the number of skulls in this image!!

>>384470717

If only the lore of AoS wasn't so fucking shit

>Look here, we have this multiple universes
>Lets just fight over random places all over those universes

>>384468634
soulstorm was shit

>>384470915
Except you know, it's pretty detailed skulls, nothing like from Easy to Paint box for 8 yo kids

>>384470915
one two thre- jackie chan FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>384470928
>the gods actually fucking exist and are physical beings
WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING

>>384470915
21 skulls?

>>384470912

Sold enough to get a sequel. And guess what? The sequel fucking sucked ass!

>>384468770
>>384468863
Units die in DoW 3 like they were Starcraft Marines.
It is fucking ridiculous. Especially when unlike Marines in Stacraft, units in DoW 3 are also EXPENSIVE AS FUCK.

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>we want Starcraft audience

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>>384470994
I sincerely hope you are just pretending to be retarded

>>384470705
>>384470846
>>384470884
>>384470915

Because they look like tacticool garbage. They're slowly moving away from the Gothic theme of 40k for a more MURRICAFUCKYEAH look.

I bet you shills will unironically defend this ugly ass shit too >>384471195

>>384471321
Yup so you are legitimately retarded then. Good to know

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>>384471390

Good one breh

>>384471321
I was just one of those guys; my point was that the whole fucking 40k universe has almost been MURRICAFUCKYEAH for at least the past decade now.

There's no use complaining about it now.

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>>384471321
Guillimarines look like shit, but no worse than GW's old shit. Are you trying to tell me pic related is any better?

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>>384471390
>u a retard!
Not an argument
Also
>dat trenchcoat
Is it me, or this chaplain is screaming "DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE!"

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>>384471321
>tacticool garbage

>>384471449
>There's no use complaining about it now.
Why? This complain is still actual and just intensifies

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>>384471532
>guys omg it's copying Overmeme

>>384471639
Dark Angels are GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

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>>384468270
Warhammer 40k is a bad franchise anyway. The entire setting is like something an edgy preteen would scribble doodles of in their school notebook while sitting in the corner trying to avoid eye contact with anyone.

>>384471449
Where are you getting is Murricafuckyeah garbage. Are you so insecure about your nation that you are blaming the development of a sci-fi setting on a country rather than the British company that makes the setting?

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>Militarum Tempestus Scions
GW's name changes are so cute.

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>>384468334
Because for some reason Relic missed the class where you learn to iterate on successful ideas not throw the them out the window for some completely new shit.

DoW was the proof of concept. Fixed a lot of the shit parts of Starcraft style RTS. Then they did CoH and improved on that existing concept, really took it above and beyond. Then for some reason they decided to just trash all of that A+ foundation and do some new shit with DoW2. So instead of continuing the success of this excellent formula they went with something that was mediocre compared to other RTS. Then CoH2 comes out, people expect the worst. It's meh for a while but eventually gets to a pretty good place. Then DoW3! They realized their mistakes!! It's going to finally be a true sequel to DoW1!!! Nope, they did it again but this time even worse. They somehow strayed even further from the original DoW/CoH foundation. Not surprisingly it's complete dogshit.

I don't understand how Relic looks at other company's success in really nailing a basic gameplay foundation and building off of it every time and just completely go the opposite direction. Creative Assembly has essentially been making the same game for seventeen years, they're doing great. Same with Bethesda, Firaxis, Paradox etc. They must just be morons and I wouldn't be surprised if this most recent fuck up marks the end of a once great RTS series.

>>384470717
>AOS is more fun to play than WHFB ever was
lel

>>384468634
Whoever made this is a fag, dark crusade was great

>>384471639
>Primaris tactical marines copying average space dudes, like Master Chief, Doomguy and Terran Marrines
>new assault marines copying Starcraft Reapers
>new scouts copying Crysis and Call of Duty
>new dred is basically Viking copy without jet-mode
>being this ass mad about mentioning Overwatch
meanwhile, how is 40k online shooter doing right now?

>>384471195
You do realize StarCraft and WarCraft both ripped off Warhammer aesthetics, right?

And there is nothing wrong with making the units sleeker. Padded shoulders went out of fashion a long time ago.

>>384472282
>You do realize StarCraft and WarCraft both ripped off Warhammer aesthetics, right?
[proof needed]
>And there is nothing wrong with making the units sleeker.
Then why your "true scale" marines looks even cartoonish than old one?

>>384472006
dark crusade was shit

>>384472451
Except it was more interesting than Soulstorm with broken aircrafts and borring campaign

>>384471639
Aaaaaand it's nothing like trenchcoat.

>>384471768
What was wrong with Stormtrooper?

>>384472719
Disney copyrighted the term

>>384472282
The only thing Warcraft took from Warhammer was orc skin color. Yes, before Blizzard made Warcraft they negotiated with GW about making a Warhammer game, but that deal fell through very quickly. Warcraft was a generic fantasy setting at the start, it didn't have any other real Warhammer influences.

Starcraft was heavily influenced by Starship Troopers and Alien franchises, not 40k. People only say that because of WC WH connection.

>>384472719
They looks like some Final Fantasy soldiers.
Also, old metal kasr'kins were much coller

>>384472587
>aircrafts
>broken
LMAO, how to spot a casual 101

Mean while dark crusade was literally broken, fire on the move accuracy bug, broken unplayable online, harlequin kiss bug, sonic pulse bug, shit balance, etc, etc terrible game it died for a reason.

>>384469645
>the campaign gameplay
How? Multiple planets, with huge zones on each of them? Why are these factions taking over settlements? The campaign gameplay also makes no fucking sense. How does diplomacy or trading work? How does income work?

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>>384471820

relic are obsessed with innovation, every game they make has to have a stupid gimmick which sets it apart from the previous one

I've got to give them credit for their balls in trying something new but it never worked.

as it is DOW3 has barely broken even when you factor in the moronic advertisement campaign, which isn't actually a very bad place for an RTS because you can release a shit tonne of expansions for your players and now that the hard work of building the game is done making new units is pretty easy

unfortunately DOW 3's audience disintegrated and as a result I'd be incredibly fucking surprised if they release that necron expansion we were promised.

although it does mean that sega may give relic another chance at making another game. only time will tell if they learn from this abortion.

>>384470343
>They had to attract new audiences because rts fags don't care about anything but their necroshit.

but dawn of war 1 is EXACTLY the kind of 'necroshit' that RTS fags replay ad infinitum. all relic had to do was remake it with more polish, better balance, and up to date graphics, and they would have raked in lots of money from rtstards.

>>384472839
>LMAO, how to spot a casual 101
>you are casual!
Not an argument, I've done with Marauders micro while I have the whole horde-army to control

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>>384472781
>owning words
How is this shit legal? Who the fuck could confuse Star Wars' stormtroopers with W40k's stormtroopers? Fuck it all.

>>384472839
>bug
>bug
>bug
Those were features anon.

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>>384472995
>How is this shit legal?
Everything is legal in case of anglo toy-company

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>>384472187
>Primaris tactical marines copying average space dudes, like Master Chief, Doomguy and Terran Marrines
They're literally just the older marines but with more realistic proportions and a different mask.
>new assault marines copying Starcraft Reapers
Yeah the new assault's are pretty shit. The marines are bigger but the jetpacks are smaller. And the lack of chainswords is fucking stupid.
>new scouts copying Crysis and Call of Duty
Also fucking dumb. Scout's should look like scouts not Battle Brother Lite
>new dred is basically Viking copy without jet-mode
New Dread is pretty bad. It looks like a fat guy with skinny legs and arms.
>meanwhile, how is 40k online shooter doing right now?
Eternal Crusade is somehow shittier than it used to be.

I wish they'd just done truescale marines/scouts/dread.

>>384472967
LMAO casual shitter, you probably never even played against another player before.

let me gues "OMG NO RUSH 20 MIN"

FUCKING LMAO

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>>384473107
> but with more realistic proportions and a different mask.
That's definition of average space dudes
>Also fucking dumb. Scout's should look like scouts not Battle Brother Lite
Except they aren't scouts in lore, they are literally 40k Ghosts

>>384473107

the "reivers" (jesus christ gw) aren't actually scouts, they're basically night lords and they've robbed the howling banshees scream attack.

>>384473217
>let me gues "OMG NO RUSH 20 MIN"
Nigger, I've rushed Monkey Lord at 8 min in SupCom and rushed T-armoured horde on enemy reinforcements point at 15 min.

>tfw brainlet and can't into dawn of war because rts

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>>384472919
I just want a 40k RTS with all the depth and player choice of the original/CoH/CoH2. I've wanted CoH's more detailed cover mechanics and excellent emplacement options in DoW for so long now. Fucking Relic.

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>>384473257

jesus those highlights are sloppy, gotta give to him though, AT LEAST HE THINS HIS PAINTS.

>>384473420
The fuck are you talking dude, it's a perfect GD nominee

>>384473097
Are they going to trademark pilot or something next?

>muh CoH
let's spot all plebbitors, /v/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XxUI6SL1X0&t=933s

>>384472995
Rumors are, Disney threatened GW saying to either change the name, or "We will own 40k by the end of the month." I hear GW also had to pay 500,000 in "brand damages"

>>384473820
>I hear GW also had to pay 500,000 in "brand damages"
You just trolling, right?

>>384473924
"OY VEEEEY, CAN YOU BELIEVE THESE GENTILES YOUR HONOR? BECAUSE OF THEIR 'STORMTROOPERS" DISNEY HAS LOST A GORILLIAN SHEKELS, AND THE BRAND HAS ALSO SUFFERED DAMAGED!!"

>>384473820
That would explain just about all of their name changes then. And their autism in regards to "Space Marine"

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>>384473820
>I hear GW also had to pay 500,000 in "brand damages"
JUST

>>384473820
disney either has to die or we need to revive Walt so he can go back in charge, this is a fucking joke

>>384474095
The more likely explanation about the name changes are that it lets GW copyright their names instead of having names that are too generic to protect, especially after the "spots the space marine" debacle.

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>>384473567

>GD quality

thats tabletop quality, its good enough to field without feeling like shit but its nothing special

this is GD quality

>>384474813
>airbrush

Shoo shoo

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>>384474813
You want to see true slayer sword material?

>>384474351

I'll get the shovel.

or should It be an icepick?

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>>384473567
>this attempt at edge highlighting
>GD nominee
Yea no.
>>384474960
>he doesn't own an airbrush
I bet you don't even use kolinsky sable hair brushes, faget.

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>>384475019

Ebin

>>384472919
>>384471820

If anything, I expect SEGA to step in like it did with CA and fix this mess.

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>Golden Daemon worthy
step aside losers, the best mini ever with the best paintjob ever is here.

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>>384475676

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>>384475676
Nice mini, but not the best paint work I've seen. That title belongs to pic.

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>>384475810

>he doesn't remember

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>>384468460
>click on cover, wait for enemies to die, click on next cover, repeat
>best gameplay

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>>384468270

>>384473718
>10v10 on a 2v2 map
please don't post reddit's map pick

>>384471006
Malekith merging with a dragon, rejoining the elven races and siding with Sigma.

>>384478643
New Eldar faction that has all Eldar units, helping to bring back Gullyman and seeking to parlay with Imperium to drive out Chaos.

Wait just a minute here.

>>384471321
Dude tacticool in 40k is cool as fuck

Look at tempestus scions and death watch

Reminder that current /tg/ is essentially /v/ for table top games

>>384479161
And is a shadow of its former self

>>384479161
At least the quest threads are gone.

I aint no heretic or nothin but you hear about this "grater good" sounds like a pretty cushy deal if you asks me.

>>384472814
Karsikins are Cadian storm troopers scions are regular storm troopers

>>384478921

not all eldar units, the haemonculi are too deprived apparently.

>>384479161
It's such a shit hole now it makes /v/ look good

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There is nothing wrong with adding tacticool elements to 40k its why Raptors are the best chapter

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>>384471321

Why are /tg/ fags so assblasted at this shit?

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>>384468634
>Dark Crusade
>Bad

Stopped reading there.

>>384479862
Dark Crusade had problems first of all Dark Crusade saw the implementation of what was, without a doubt, one of the worst "fixes" to a problem in gaming history. Having decided that combat was "too lethal" and that shooty units shouldn't be able to chase down and kill fleeing units, Relic introduced a flat change to the fire-on-the-move accuracy of every single unit: 15%. In one stroke, this "Fix" caused dozens of problems. No longer did the likes of Dreadnoughts ever see a weapon upgrade (because doing so would give it a functionally-useless weapon that would never hit as it moved towards close-combat and hindered its melee power to boot), and the weapon immediately made rapid-firing weapons dozens of times better than those that fired slowly, since it was much more likely that they could hit with a few shots than their counterparts. Vehicles and personnel intended to fire on the move (such as Terminators) became functionally useless, whilst the Eldar Fleet of Foot ability became tantamount to godmode (initially it reduced accuracy when activated, but now with the flat 15% fire accuracy there was no reason not to use it when moving units. Also the Eldar Harlequin could fire a 10000+damage attack that would kill one unit in a squad, but due to how it was coded, could target and instagib a commander unit that was attached to said squad.

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>/v/edditors thinking their opinions matter

Jesus you fags honestly think /v/ is better than /tg/? Please we got more shit done then you fags and GW is fucking up 40k with this fucking gay ass military shit

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>>384480096
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No the issue is /tg/ used to be good now its shit while /v/ was always shit so it kinda makes /v/ look better

>>384471321
>They're slowly moving away from the Gothic theme of 40k for a more MURRICAFUCKYEAH look.
You obviously havent played tabletop 40k since 2000

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>>384469431
I know you are bashing the idea. But man that still sounds cool.

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>>384471321
So this is how /tg/ gaybois derail threads....really makes you think...

>>384479328
So fucking what?
>>384478982
>tempestus scions
>tacticool

>>384480096
>Jesus you fags honestly think /v/ is better than /tg/?
Yes.

>>384477778
>click on cover, wait for enemies to die, click on next cover, repeat
>faggot then dies immediately to grenades or fast moving melee because all he did is compstomps in DoW1

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LOL

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>Coolest looking marine models in a while
>ITS TOOOO TACTICAL AND DUM

Fucking /tg/

>>384481509
>>Coolest looking marine models in a while
It's not Custodes.
Also, detalisation and poses are ugly, especially legs

>>384481509
those legs are retarded and who would strap grenades so close to their hearts

seems legit

>>384481785
It's okay since they are wearing nanosuit beneath the armor plates

>>384481509

So those a new scouts? I kinda dig them I wonder how they would look in Raptor colors

>>384481960

Space Marine commandos think like they just put a bunch of scout sergeants into one squad but actually gave them armor

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>>384481374
JUST

>>384468270
>Company goes to make Eternal Crusade
>Gets snubbed out the gate when one of the lead devs promises fans a fuckton of things that could never be done, then jumps ship before Alpha
>Relic goes to make DoW3
>Initially going to be like DoW1 but with better graphics
>THQ snubs that entirely to try and cash in with a 40k MOBA, wiping all the work done on it in their death throes
>Followed by Sega digging up the mutilated corpse to try and cash in more by way of a skeleton crew and recycled assets
>Now Sega doesn't have to support any more 40k games because "DoW3 didn't sell well", killing off DoW and most any chance at more good 40k vidya
Honestly, people shouldn't even be mad at Relic. 40k games are cursed by Sega now.

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>>384481960
>I wonder how they would look in Raptor colors
Pretty nice, especially with optional helmets

>>384482181

is /tg/ really that pissed?

>>384482251
By making fun shops?

>>384482390

It looks like someone made it since they are made these commando guys look like halo Spartans

>>384482453
Well, Primaris marines army are very big step into "avrage sci-fi" direction design-wise.

Im pissed how DOW3 was terrible in the story like holy fuck it had no memorable moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT_vcm7eKIc

Atleast DOW2 had good scenes

Reminder that the Blood Ravens are a loyalist Thousand Sons chapter.

>>384482935

No one has denied for a while expect for one Black Library writer who blows a gasket about the idea

>>384469356
>>384468270

This is what happens when you forget who your core audience is and you MOBAdize the game.
Take Macha - this is straight Dota/LoL hero gameplay. Throw spear, boom explosion, whole squad wiped.
Squads are creeps for heroes to kill, I don't remember in DoW 1 heroes obliterate whole squads so fast with 1-2 skills...

>>384469918
>Take a look at EC's forums
>There's people still defending the company

>>384480096
>GW is fucking up 40k with this fucking gay ass military shit
Please explain.

>>384482124
>40k games are cursed by Sega now.
It was cursed by GW, who will never give money for good 40k game, years ago.

>>384483468
I will give them credit for sticking to the game and at least trying to do post-release content, ifevem half the rumors are true.

>>384468415
This. DoW 2 was a massive fucking improvement over the first game in every way and 3 is the result of retards crying about no base building and smaller unit caps so we got this utterly depthless blobfest just like the garbage first game. If they had just continued making the 40K game they wanted in 2's direction we would have gotten another great game. This is why devs should not listen to vocal minorities.

>>384483746
You and all the other DoWvDoW2 fags are wrong. Sega didn't listen to anyone on this except themselves, and THQ wasn't just ready to scrap the series for a MOBA, they actually fucking did. Neither company really listened to fans.

>>384482124
>>384483919
Yeah, nah, you're have to source your facts about THQ or SEGA having anything to do with DoW3 being absolute shit.

>>384483518
And how are GW to blame exactly? They give you a license and it's up to you to make a good game.

>>384483610
I don't know, chances are that they did it to milk as much money as possible out of the carcass of the game before shutting it down.
Some guy on /v/ used the term "zombieware" and I think it's very appropriate.
Also a bit of Trivia: they never finished making some alternate weapon skins they promised since the beginning of developement and never refunded the people that bought them.

>>384468936
>40k would make for a better total war game than warhammer fantasy.

This faggot again.

>>384484313
An interview with a Relic employee came out right after DoW3's release talking about how the games development went. They had just started on the first version when THQ anounced bankruptcy and had to shift gear.
>>384484330
That's another reason people think they're sticking to the game, since they still have to make a console release on top of adding in the skins and Elite Classes one of which I bought that's still fucking not in yet people already bought. They literally can't afford to stop.

>>384484313
>And how are GW to blame exactly?
Because of their greed.
Do you realise that today none of AAA devs will come to GW for 40k license if they have to pay shitton of money for it?

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>>384481509
Been away from 40k for a while, are geedubs doing true scale now? Is chaos still shit?

>>384485116
>Been away from 40k for a while, are geedubs doing true scale now?
Nope, just bigger

Honestly the core gameplay of DoW3 is just broken on a fundamental level. Extremely fragile units coupled with slow resource gains, long build times, overpowered elites that melt units like butter, those fucking endgame super weapons, and a terrible visual style all add up to a mediocre experience. The game needs a full overhaul just to decent.

>>384485242
>Nope, just bigger

So they're just making normal space marines minis bigger now?

>>384485723
yes, but it's a new kind of space marines

>>384485723
read nigga read

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Primaris_Marines

>>384486326
>Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future

Hang about, wasn't Guilliman in stasis after the HH?

It's sad that people went full apeshit about this game, it has the best mp gameplay in all of dows and sp isn't as bad as people try to imply.