Silent Hill 2 Vs Silent Hill 3

sh3 is better cause it's scarier

>>384447594
i didnt play any of them

isnt 2 the one where you killed your wife or whatever? one of the truly heaviest stories written in games. i approve of the video game very much

i played the first one, but it scared me too much.

>>384447594
Do you need to play sh1 to understand sh2?

>>384447671
>isnt 2 the one where you killed your wife or whatever?

yes

>>384447708
No, silent hill 2 is pretty much standalone. SH3 on the other hands requires you to play 1.

>>384447708
You need to play it first so you don't ruin your opinion about 1 being the best.

>>384447671
>>384447714
also that bitch getting set on fire in the movie is honestly one of the most gruesome movie scenes ever shot. I have seen some horrific REAL things and I will never forget the way her face catches on fire from the heat (i never thought about catching fire from radiant heat before and the idea is so scary, it's so hot even though the fire isnt touching you directly)

>tfw i've completed every SH game except for 3 on release including the vomit inducing ones from last gen
>tfw everytime i play 3 i never get passed the mall because of how bored i get

this has happened to me 3 times in the past decade trying to play it.

>>384447836
That's how Anakin got it

I prefer 2, but that's personal preference and not saying it's objectively better. I just prefer the tone of 2. The soundtrack as well still causes intense emotional response in me.

3 is fantastic as well, though. Heather a cute.

>>384447893
Huh the mall is probably the better part of the game. I mean there's a lot of good stuff halfway through but the mall is a real good start.

Rest of the game is like the mall imo... so yeah

>>384447893
>be >>384447836 >>384447671 this person
>never really tried since the first one but decide to play SH4
>a few hours through the game it is revealed to me that there's some shit that never ever stops chasing you and can't be killed

nope.png.zip.jpg.tga.tar.gzip turned 365 simultaneous earth-days and uninstalled that shit off the ps2 hard drive

>>384447594
Honestly they're both as good as each other, since they have different themes and hence different horror styles. If I had to choose though, I'd go with Silent Hill 3 for technical and personal reasons. 3 is a lot more oppressive with its horror, so it tends to be scarier, and the pacing of the game is the most refined in the series. Every time I get to the catacombs in 2 I feel it could have been cut/altered since it feels like boring filler compared to the prison level that comes before and the hotel that comes a little after. I also find 3 a lot more interesting in terms of what it shows the player throughout the game.

SH3 is legitimately the scariest game I've played in my life

SH2 has my second favorite story in gaming after xenogears

both are great but I have to give it to SH3 because it's also not a cake walk like SH2

>>384447594

>SH1 the best

No it's the worst. 2 is the best.

2 > 3 > 4 > 1

Didn't play the others they barely count anyways.

>>384447594
>silent hill 1 is still the best
Is it? The level design, enemy variety and such is pretty weak. That it usually just transports you to the next level after finishing the previous one is a pretty big design sin.

>>384447594

SH2 is too fucking easy. The handgun hits like a fucking magnum. Literally the only enemies that are a threat are the bed fuckers because they swarm you in pairs and there are only like 4 of them in the whole game. Pyramid head was a fucking joke because you can run circles around him and he won't hit you.

SH1 and 3 are much harder/better games.

>>384448531
what the fuck kind of shit opinion is this

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>>384448595
>enemy variety and such is pretty weak

>>384448728

A factually based true opinion.

SH1 is literally nothing special. The series didnt get truly good until the PS2. And all 3 PS2 SH games were god tier. SH1 feels like a prototype in comparison.

>>384448825

Yeah it's pretty weak as he said. Only maybe 2-3 of those designs kinda stick out, where the PS2 games had tons of memorable enemies.

>>384448878
>guy that comes out of the wall while you run up stairs

fuck you

>>384448878
be honest with me. Did you play Silent hill?

>>384447594
2 for its characters and soundtrack. I adore 3 too though.

The Room is nice too. I liked that it was kind of obtuse and challenging like other survival horrors.

>>384448878
>SH1 is literally nothing special. The series didnt get truly good until the PS2

Congrats pham, i'm triggered.

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>>384448932
>>384448924
>>384449260
>>384449363

>>384449513
>I own a bunch of copies of physical video games (lol fuckin loser) so you should care what I think

owning physical video games means i care what you think *less*

phoneposting a 3000x3000 image for no reason and destroying 4chans bandwidth means you can fuck off 2016/v/

>>384449513
>he actually went through the trouble

Doesn't mean you don't have shit taste.

>>384448825
16, what's that like 3 per dungeon and 4 for the overworld? Like I want to say 70% share the same couple of attack patterns? It's pretty weak, guy.

I was playing that Indonesian Fatal Frame clone recently, had 10 complete unique patterned enemies just in the first act.

Not a bad game or nothing, mind, and still better than the clone on other merits.

>>384449513
>cracker

of course

>>384449513
seems like you just have shit taste then

3. It was the only one that made me scared when it came out. And Heather is my waifu.

>>384449513
>he thought he would get LE EPIC BTFO REPLIES
>Gets shitted on instead
kek faggot

>>384449579

>nigger

Makes sense why you enjoy shit, it's in your skin color afterall.

>>384449567

They are physical copies since I am not an underaged little shit like you, who grew up with digital distribution.

>>384449680

He asked me if I had played SH I posted pics to prove I have. Nothing about "le btfo" you fucking spastic.

>>384449730
you still have shit taste though

>>384449759

If my taste is shit, then yours is far far below shit, your taste is fucking abysmal. It's worse than shit.

SH2 > SH3 > SH4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> SH1

>>384449575
Silent Hill 3 has the same amount of enemies as 1.

http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Silent_Hill_3_Monsters

>>384449730
No they are physical copies becuase you ARE an underaged little shit, who didn't grow up with these games and seeks to prove fanship by possessing a physical volume of the game

a REAL gamer doesn't give a fuck about physical games because video games reside in the experience not in a fucking physical object

>>384449826
you can stop now bud, this is an anonymous imageboard. It's okay to walk away.

>>384449905
>decent thread going
>people discussing if they prefer 2 or 3 and why
>HURRRRRR SILENT HILL 1 IS SHIT LOOK AT ME AND MY IMAGES WITH MY MIDDLE FINGER HURRRR

kys already

>>384449905

Alright bro I will just take a picture of myself playing them back on release date just let me get my time machine.

Fucking idiot.

>>384449939

I've never seen someone so butthurt about SH1 before. I never even knew it had a fanbase kek. I've been in plenty of SH threads before and it's always talk of the PS2 trilogy, how shit the HD version apparently was and how shit all the games since the PS2 was. The only talk of 1 is people emulating it and saying it still holds up today.

You are the only person on this site who has ever claimed that 1, outside of well done visuals, is a better game than the rest of the series and gets wildly butthurt when someone disagree's. I am just amused at you right now.

>>384450018

Sorry meant for

>>384449513

>>384450063
>he's still replying
hurry up and put a trip on, you're already half way there.

>>384450152

Keep giving me these free (You)'s you butthurt fuck. I'm gonna have to start shitposting SH1 more often, never knew it had such a small under the rader autistic fanbase that's so easily triggered before.

>>384450206
You seem to be the one that's triggered friend, going as far as to posting your entire silent hill collection with timestamp and message tossing up a middle finger like a 12 year old.

>>384450018
>>384450073

see >>384448728
and >>384448924
>>384448932
>>384449260
>>384449363

And wonder why I became rude. You fucking triggered autists bring this shit on yourselves.

>>384450257

>camera is right next to me as is my games shelf
>effort

Kek.

lol I'm just shitposting calm the fuck down

okay, now let's discuss how the Silent Hill movie blew everyone away on release date as by far the best vidya movie all time

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SH1 is still the best. Closely followed by 2.

>>384447671
You really should play the TS' original quadrilogy. Lemme repost the SH PC Guide and links:
SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk

SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8

SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE

SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE

SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c

SH4 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!Us1XTaII!cglH0dZOaH5yQEm4cnEh3eyUz4bIf6rACQqcVzkb4Hc

Mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" fix works as a no-cd crack as well, and is included in the pack.

if you use the NEW widescreen fix mentioned in the guide, you can use sh2proxy's .exe as crack.

in case you experience issues saving the game / not being able to edit the disp.ini, make sure the files aren't set to "Read Only", and run the game as Administrator.

if SH2 gets stuck into a black screen during launch, close the application and restart it again.

you can now see fine emulator settings for SH1 in the pic. You can also try the PGXP emu for wobble free PS1 graphics.

>>384447708
I really recommend it.

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>>384448531
You got shittiest nu-fan taste.

1 >2 >3 >4 > SM > shit > the rest.

>>384447594
I love silent hill3 more the scary atmosphere is much more thicc in 3 than it was in 1 or 2.. 4 had some certain scenes that reached pretty close.

>>384450764
release order is correct order

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>>384450668
pic for ants.jaypeg

>>384450764

>le original is le best

KYS you shit taste cuck.

1 is a barely memorable experience.

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>>384450652
>lol I'm just shitposting calm the fuck down

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>>384447594
I know people generally like SH2 best but personally I love SH3 because it expands on SH1 and Heather is such a great protag.

But all three games are pretty much amazing in their own ways. Too bad that all other SH games are fucking abortions of the series

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>>384450908
posting this comic presumes the guy cares if the other guys think hes retarded

captcha: pneus river

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>>384450965
you do care though, it's why you went on a shitposting rampage and posted pictures of your collection.

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>>384451008

>>384447594
SH3 made me really tense
I'm not sure why, i think maybe the game just doesn't have that many "safe" areas compared to the previous games

>>384450889
>>le original is le best

why are you talking like this

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>>384451008
>>384451096
drury valley

>>384451140

I see you are new here. Using "le" in a sentence is a way of saying that persons opinion is like that of a redditors.

>>384448090
>a few hours through the game it is revealed to me that there's some shit that never ever stops chasing you and can't be killed
...you mean the first HOUR, right?

But seriously people, play the SH games in the release order. It's totally worth it, and makes the ride better.

>>384451290
i'm not new and talking like a redditor even ironically is reddit behavior.

>>384450876
fuck, that's what I get for using phone. Thanks mate

>>384450889
fuck of underage. SH1 is the scariest, best paced and the most memorable ride in the whole fucking series.

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Bros what FOV settings should i use for SH3?

>>384451404
not him, played sh1 when i was a kid before the rest came out
3>2>1
1 and 2 are VERY close tho, if 2 didn't have so much interesting hidden/cut stuff i would probably put 1 above it

>>384450876
It should be definitely noted that removing black bars for SH3 cutscenes is a bad idea. Considering all cutscenes are in-engine, removing black bars reveals what was intended to stay hidden.

>>384451441
depends on your screen res and aspect ratio.

On my 16:9 monitor, I use:
0,9
1,2

>>384451503
Some decade or so ago, I was a die-hard SH2 worshipper, yet still liked the rest.
Later on I replayed SH1 numerous times, did some research, and then attempted to play the sequels. It soon became apparent how much I'd missed and misunderstood about the original, and how damn well designed and paced the OG truly is compared to the others.

>>384451351

Yeah no it isn't newfag. Sorry but you don't dictate this boards culture.

>>384451404

SH1 is barely scary. It's just a full 3D clone of Resident Evil with a more physiological story focus. It's not really that good. SH2 was when SH came into it's own thing really and distinguished itself. I much preferred the RE games on the PS1 over SH. The PS2 SH games however were pure ludology and a massive improvement.

>>384451741
>SH1 is barely scary.
Opinion noted but disgarded.
I was a total RE fanboi up until I finally played this "another Resi-clone". Literally gave me nightmares for a long while, and got me switch the teams instantly.

In my opinion, the sequels did not really improve anything. They just added their own twists on the basics SH1 coined. Hell, they even managed to DOWNGRADE some other things, like making the experiences even more linear, and difficulty laughably low.

>>384451867

>I got nightmares from a video game

Kek, fukken pussy.

>>384451338
>...you mean the first HOUR, right?

wow god forbid i misremember some shit from an ancient video game that wasnt good that i didnt like

>>384451976
excuse me for being easily immersed and literally 10 when the game came out originally.

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alright, used >>384450876 guide for Silent Hill 3. What are some good settings? Monitor is 16:9 / 1920x1080

>>384447594
SH2 all the way, for me.

As a direct sequel to the original, the story of SH3 was pretty uninteresting. A lot gets hinted at, but never fleshed out. It's got much less mystery than the first two games.

My impression of SH3 is that they upped the ante in terms of visual horror, but didn't quite know what to do with the story.

Silent Hill 2 was underwhelming. It wasn't THAT scary; and I guess James Sunderland just isn't the kind of character I identify with. Silent Hill 1 is better.

Silent Hill 3 is the best in the series. Heather's a better lead character than James, revisiting Silent Hill the same was you did im Silent Hill 1 is haunting, and even before you get there the whole idea that Silent Hill follows Heather EVERYWHERE she goes (seriously, there is no respite in that game) makes the game convey the most ominous sense of dread in the entire series. It's the second best horror game on the PS2 after Forbidden Siren (maybe third).

>>384452423
oh and i'm not on a toaster

>>384452426
Also I wasn't feeling the music in SH3 as much as SH2.

Just seeing that I contradicted myself in the first post, things are only hinted at but there's less mystery. I guess what I mean is, there's nothing interesting behind the curtain, no revelation.

>>384447594
2 for story and characters, 3 for horror.

>>384450668
Is there a fix for SH2 PC having the broken tunnel entrance yet? Or is that just the only bug and the rest of the game is fine so no one cares?

>>384452423
please respond

>>384452423
Leave things as they are.

>>384452695
this

SH4 is kind of in the middle but the premise of walter thinking the apartment is his mom or some shit kind of kills it

>>384447594
I like SH3 better, the first time I played it I almost shat my pants at how scary the first few enemies were. And while I enjoy SH2, I find the apartment complex really tedious to go through so I really haven't done a bunch of 100% playthroughs.

>>384452834
4 freaked me out the most the first time I played it but it's a lot more focused on gimmicks in design and because you revisit areas so much it doesn't have much impact on repeat playthroughs for me. 3 still scares me for some reason.

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>>384452890
>play SH3

well this isn't so bad

>play SH3 with headphones
>mfw

>>384452920
3's sound design legitimately sounds like they did field recordings of hell

>>384452426
>A lot gets hinted at, but never fleshed out.
Literally everything involving the characters, their aims, the cult and the demon God are explained and brought full circle, so you're wrong on that count buddy.

>>384452804
don't even put up rendering res?

>>384448716
>The handgun hits like a fucking magnum.
What do you think a magnum is?

>>384447594
2 because it minimizes the silly cult-crap.

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>>384452981
Time for the obligatory eternal playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0Im48hjRk&t=5s&index=1&list=PLnC8QTNt_so4STc8W4R2tYzDIR0uRJd9R

>>384453289
was actually just listening to the subway one

fun fact, it took me 5 years to muster the courage to play SH3 after quitting in the subway area as a kid because of those noises

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>>384453289
>hearing the loud footsteps sound in the mall when you are playing the game alone in the basement of your house

>>384453148
Thats up to you. Ķeeping it at zero renders the game at your playing res, something thats not possible in vanilla game (as both X and Y res only go up in multiples of two, like 1024x512, 1024x1024, 2048x1024...).

>>384447779
don't worry I played 2 > 1 > 3 > 4 and after some soul searching I came to the right conclusion too, there's hope

>>384453412
>Ķeeping it at zero renders the game at your playing res

Oh cool so it automatically detects my settings. Pretty much just drop and play. Thanks m8

I prefer SH3 because the aesthetic looks like genuine hell. It feels like you're exploring a really messed up place.

Silent Hill 2 is more like an abandoned town with weird places(otherworld hospital) and really weird places(prison and mine).

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Don't you guys love what Tom Hulett did and revitalized the series?
Everything is so much better and it's all thanks to him

>>384453472
Exactly.
SH fanfixes have come a long way in past couple years

>>384447594
I've only played the first one, but I loved it. How well do 2 & 3 emulate? Also is the movie actually any good or just a cash in

>>384452752
There are like two or three places where the white texture glitch happens, it noticeable of course but it's not bothersome.

>>384453693
You do not need to emulate 2-4, as they got legit PC versions. Any toaster can run them.
Check up the SH PC Guide and links earlier ITT.

The movies are pure trash.

>>384453693
there's pc versions of both mang

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>>384453693
Movie is awful
Literally trash
It shits on everything
Don't watch it
And the second one is a million time worse
I don't understand how they fucked it up but it's astronomically bad

the other guys right 1 is shit

>>384453693

Save this

>>384450876

>>384453872
first movie isn't that bad the second was garbage. First is worth watching at least once

>>384447594
The real question is why are there no other good Silent Hill doujins
I can only masturbate to END OF LOCATION so many times

>>384447594
RIP Lying Figure.

>>384453289
> https://youtu.be/JT0Im48hjRk?list=PLnC8QTNt_so4STc8W4R2tYzDIR0uRJd9R&t=59
I've definitely heard that same sound effect in another game, though I can't think of which.

>>384452426
>>384452603
I feel you. I personally loved Heather and Douglas, and enjoyed Vincent, even if he's just a tease with not much substance. Claudia can fuck herself with a broomstick. her and Vincent working together to revive the cult is very jarring and is hard to swallow considering there's seemingly only two real members remaining, with one of them just trying to make a profit

I really liked the moody theme to the music in 2 and probably enjoy more tracks in it than in 1, 3 and 4 combined, but 3 had good direction for what it was going for, too, I think

>>384453980
The first movie is straight garbage
Horrible acting
Terrible characters
Retarded plot
It has little to no redeeming qualities
They could have kept the fucking story straight from the game and it would have been fine but they had to shit all over it

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so where do you guys think kojima would have taken SH? The radio in PT seemed to follow an ancient alien/demon theme by implying that the Orwell broadcast was actually true. I always found the ufo endings kind of cool and funny but they do connect all of the games together in a weird way. Don't forget that the cult were using sigil stones in an attempt to contact aliens.

>>384454519
It would have just been a more interesting Homecoming imo. More to see and probably fun/spooky, but still misses the point of SH. Honestly they could still make the game and just call it something else, and give a sly fuck you to Konami by saying it's inspired by Silent Hill.

that SH1 demo as a kid was scary as fuck, cant remember what game it came with.

>Small black shadows lurking around in the school

>>384454307
I think the reason SH3 only has the two cult members is to not end up like Homecoming, where you have to fight hordes of stupid cultists who are stronger than the monsters themselves. In SH3, her followers are the missionary and the scrapers, so Claudia did have an army.

>>384454519
P.T. had nothing to do with Silent Hills development, the stuff happening in P.T. was just random scary horror stuff.

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>>384454519
wew

>>384455050
wish there had been real cultist enemies. Walter was a spooky dude in part because he was 'just' a regular guy, not a monster or a ghost. aside from the immortality. being able to follow you into other rooms in the forest world was real spooky too. aside from Eddie and possessed cybil, are there any other human enemies?

>>384455383
>aside from Eddie and possessed cybil, are there any other human enemies?

yes, yourself.

>>384450310
get help

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Harry vs James who wins?

>>384455769
harry

SH3 is the only game that has given me nightmares. Sometimes I have nightmares where I'm stuck in SH3's Otherworld.

I have a feeling Konami is going to give the series back to ito and let him work on it again.

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3 is the scariest
2 had the best story/characters
1 had the best atmosphere

>>384455383
There are many other series like GTA or Manhunt for example where you can shoot humans. Humans in Silent Hill just doesn't work, Eddie boss battle being an example of that.

>>384456658
I should also note that 2 also had the best creature design and that 3 had the best sound design.
Shattered Memories gets a bonus point for trying something different and doing a pretty good job all things considered.

imagine if devs/artist from the first 3 games banded back together. IMAGINE the fucking shit they could pull off with today's graphics/power. They were literal wizards for what they did with ps2 hardware.

1 > 2 > 3, but all are good.

>>384456658
I'd say 1 was the scariest, 2 had the best story and 3 was the creepiest

so who here thinks death stranding is actually silent hills/silent hill 5?

>>384457635
I wanted to believe but that theory took a fucking nosedive into the garbage after e3

>>384456460
would make sense now that horror games are popular again and resident evil managed to make a comeback.

>>384456460
never ever

>>384453542
the sewer/underground tunnel didn't feel very hellish. hilltop center and mall were just regular places but grunged up and emptied. the areas were all kind of mundane except for the amusement park and chapel

the prison in 2 at least was a pretty interesting location, being the otherworld version of a place that no longer had a real world counterpart

>>384447594
i like 2.

3 was streamlined story and gameplay and I dont want nothing to do with it.
Plus I had problems with controls on PC that made me nearly uninstall on the last boss.

>>384457752
how did it take a nosedive? don't say because "caramel got BTFO," because caramel is a faggot and got too excited. he basically prematurely ejaculated all over this board.

>>384456801
Shattered Memories' only sin is being Wii exclusive for a while and using gimmicky wiimote puzzles

>>384458189
don't tell me you actually believe this horseshit

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>>384458189
kek

>>384447779
how can the first one being best, if playing another game can ruin this delusion?

>>384458364
>don't tell me you actually believe this horseshit
i don't believe it so much as am keeping it open as a possibility. at the very least death stranding is going to be silent hills in spirit. at most kojima is pulling some grand ruse. either way, i'm having fun.

the most fun is seeing autists get fucking pissed at the possibility of another person speculating because the autists "can't go through that again, can't have their hopes and dreams dashed"

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>>384447594
Saw this thread, Is there still time? Am i too late for bestgirl posting?

>>384458816
alight so what is the strongest thing to support thus theory?

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>>384459219
never

>>384450949
>this pic

I fucking am in love with Heather Mason. There has never been a better girl in video games.

>>384452014
>literally 10 when the game came out originally.

Perfect age for SH really.
>young enough for SH1 to stay with your thoughts for ever
>getting a bit braver at 12 because nut hairs for SH2 and brain is developed enough to understand more
>old enough at 13 to fall in lust with Heather Mason in SH3 and forever compare real women for the rest of your life because of all the sticky dreams she gave you

That was me anyway.

>>384457973
Except for the part in the mall where a sports store turns into a torture den and the restaurant starts serving dog barbecue or escalators that lead to nothing but an abyss, plus gurneys everywhere.

Hilltop center gets more torture devices, a lot of bodies inside cages, the places get a completely different geometry with blocked or unreachable doors because the floor disappeared, some rooms become larger with no explanation.

Silent Hill 2 is just abandoned places, even the prison itself is abandoned and nothing really happens in there. The developers had the opportunity to show some really cool stuff in the prison by showing that the power is so strong near Toluca that it can produce some really crazy stuff but instead you get an abandoned prison and a bunch of corridors.

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>>384455769
Harry has someone to protect. He can't die yet, "freckles McTHICCass" is waiting back home for him.

Silent Hill 2 is the best game in the entire franchise... The whole thing is a huge metaphor of Jame's subcontinent.

Even the rape scene...

>>384459289
God that face of utter comtempt... PLEASE YELL AT MY ERECT DICK HEATHER

>>384460229
>The whole thing is a huge metaphor of Jame's subcontinent.

And that's cliche and tacky as fuck.

>>384459992
Do you not remember how many holes James jumps into to get down to the prison? Or how many more he jumps down when he's in the prison?

>>384459992
alright you got me on 3, but the prison had some neat parts. the yard with the horses and gallows, the cell with the drawings, the long stairway on the approach with that fucking great fog horn

it also had that dumb obtuse trapdoor handle puzzle though

the labyrinth wasn't that great either but I liked the criminals puzzle and the gross piston room

>>384459220
>kojima, reedus, and del toro working on the game
>kojima was doing location scouting before he left konami
>kojima keeps lying about details like how many staff he's actually got at KP
>tank designs in the second trailer look like they were designed by junji ito
>death stranding's imagery reeks of gyo
>the note at the end of PT, signed by J
>metal gear twitter taken over by "J-san"
>fetus and baby imagery keeps coming up in PT and DS
>all the allusions to the war of the worlds debacle (a creator toying with the public using mass media)
>KP logo working under konami is the FOX logo, the unit BB was working under Cipher
>KP logo working solo looks like MSF logo, the army BB created when he was working solo
>MSF was secretly funded and controlled by Cipher
>new KP productions logo also looks like a trojan helmet
>"the trojan horse is in"
idk man i could keep going. they are a bunch of minor details, but there are such a staggering amount of them, it's hard to ignore. again, i don't believe it's 100% real. I'm ready for DS to come out and be a standalone title, and see kojima free from konami. but I'm also ready for the ruse to be true. basically i'll suck kojima's dick no matter what he does

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Silent Hill 3 has better graphics, a higher difficulty, better bosses, and I think Heather is a better protagonist, and the way everything goes absolutely crazy in the final level is a better climax than Silent Hill 2.

But I still prefer Silent Hill 2 for the sheer amount of "OH SHIT" moments. Like Maria getting impaled by Pyramid head was legitimately nightmarish, and the way James just rides the elevator down in silence and complete defeat is a poignant moment of restraint that video games never have. And the moment when you watch the video tape I literally said aloud to myself "no fucking way!" and that ending with the letter being read is so fucking sad. Silent Hill 2 has depth and subtlety and there are so many great moments.

>>384460692
One of the things that impressed me the most about 2 was how Maria kept showing up after you see her die. Other media doing this would make me indifferent to the character because if they die and just come back it takes away the impact of their death, but how she comes back and James' muted reaction made for some really unsettling moments.

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>>384447594
Silent Hill 3's plot is too derivative of 1, reuses assets from 2 and has an over reliance on gore for shock value moreso than previous games. Also don't end your psychological horror game with "LE BLONDES HAVE MORE FUN xD"

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>>384460692
This, but id say that James is a better protag.
I love how he is calm, weak and submissive most of the time but every once in a while he'll turn into an asshole for 2 seconds and you start seeing cracks in his personality.
Also, "you'd better do something about that cough" was probably the scariest thing in SH2.

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>>384447594
I will never not be mad at them for killing Harry offscreen

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Which one has the better soundtrack?

>Silent Hill 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGeUIQbtKt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44I2VB96ryU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6L9Cbs0m_U

>Silent Hill 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUimcNyLU6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_e8abf_Tds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeldZLmj1_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-iD2qYVkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st6xHxQGS54

>>384461461
2 had a more atmospheric soundtrack, 3 had a more varied soundtrack.

>>384460394
The jumps felt really hamfisted because there were too many of them and some feel "dreamy" because James just falls from great heights and doesn't even get hurt. The first hole is the only good one, in my opinion. The one where the corridor is vertical was the worst one.

>>384460396
The prison is good, i don't deny that, i just wish it had more flavor to it, like a boss and more threatening creatures and more weird stuff happening, but this problem applies to all of SH2. But it is really creepy and the most atmospheric area in SH2.

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>>384448825
The monster designs of the entire series are overrated desu
>humanoid sack of grey flesh that symbolizes my dead mother or some shit

>>384461738
word

>>384460692
>Silent Hill 3 has better graphics

I think SH3 looks a little more simplistic to be honest. The textures seem to be lower resolution in SH3 and the flashlight on SH2 PC/Xbox version uses per-pixel-lighting which for 2001 was a really beautiful and incredible effect considering back then almost no game had lighting effects that good. SH2 seems to be have more detail on the levels.

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>>384461158
Heather just looks weird with her natural raven hair colour. I prefered the idea she was freckled because she had a bit of ginger in her

2

Just feels like James was more well developed and that the world was most tightly designed around his psychology than any of the other games. Best Silent Hill.

2, but not by much. 1 and 4 are the best games and the Siren series is even better.

3 for the special effects and scary moments. 2 for the story, monsters and characters.

>>384462018
The old movie filter that is on constantly doesn't help much with the graphics.

>>384449513
If you don't like SH1, mind selling me your copy?

>>384462004
SH1 they're bugs and animals with human skin. Not sure if it was the PS1 limitation or what, but they don't look gory or grotesque.

SH2 they're like dolls or something, again not much gore. Pyramid Head seems to have the apron sewn to his back, but that's about it.

SH3 is the only one that goes full fleshy creatures that look like a bunch of bloated cancer stitched together with surgery. They look like they were made by some surgeon from hell.

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>>384461459
>Harry Mason
>survived Silent Hill
>lives alone in a small flat with a beautiful 17 year old girl with freckled bare skin who HE ISN'T EVEN RELATED TO
>he never remarried
>he never met another woman
>he just lays awake at night
>staring at his ceiling
>listining through the thin walls to the beautiful girl in the next room panting and grunting as she masturbates
>this is everynight for the last few years
>she suddenly, quite audibly, finishes.
>silence now
>he continues to stare at the ceiling

A BETTER MAN THAN US HARRY. F.

>>384462102
I didn't much care for the explanation behind the goings on in Siren, the system, characters and atmosphere around it are great, but the truth left me unsatisfied.

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>>384462556
I didn't mention anything about gore

>>384462691
Whatever is groping her anon... That's not masterbaition...


Question...

In the intro scene of SH3 there was a brief clip of Heather laying on the ground (presumably dead) and some creature bends down to spread her legs. I never got this scene while playing the game.

What is the context of that clip?

>>384462932
I'm agreeing with you. SH2 has the weakest designs of the three and yet it's the one people love the most because of le deep symbolism.

>>384462732
Horror is always better when certain things are left ambiguous and unexplained.

>>384463084
Its a death animation

>>384463084
That's Valtiel dragging her off... wherever. Only happens very rarely when you die.

sh3
the sound design is amazing and the areas are really good
sh2 is still good but i think it's pretty overblown

>>384463138
I'm ok with an explanation that's in line with everything going on around it, but Siren's was such an unlikely explanation, even though it technically makes sense, I find it more weird than satisfying.

>>384463084
Well she is carrying the fetus of god. Maybe Vatiel making sure everything is ok?

>>384463115
SH2 needed like 1 more regular enemy, the whole game is mannequin town

>>384463234
Its rare? I got it on my first death

>>384463084
Like others already said, it's Valtiel dragging Heather back to a save point where she can be "revived" if you reload a save game.

Both are really good but 2 is better for the story.

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I've always wondered what SH4 would be like if they had followed some of the original ideas they had in the trailer. Those twin babies would've WAY scarier if they had those screams from the trailer instead of the retarded grunts. Still, as much as people tend to shit on it had some of it's moments. It just needed more time to be refined. A diamond in the rough, to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBXIBXPWQA

>>384463301
Well, I thought it was. Don't remember seeing it in my games.

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>>384463084
That happens at random when you die but Valtiel is there to ensure Heather does her job. I don't think he is there to do anything... "Sordid" with her corpse, but in fact to ressurect her, as is a theme with Heather. It's purley symbolic though, he is not literally brining you back to life. he also isn't fucking her you freaks, it's just you lot who think that because the second you see legs being split apart all you can think about is Heathers hairy wet mound and rightly so, rightly so.

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2's story and characters were much more interesting. I never cared much for heather.
On the flip side, besides the story 3 has 2 beat in pretty much every other aspect. It's just a much more terrifying game.
My opinion is 3 > 2

>>384463439
>a diamond in the rough, to say
Not what that means, that would imply SH4 was the only good game in the series

>>384463439
That's some really awesome trailer. Better than the game itself. Too bad every camera is HD these days, movies will never have an excuse to have blurry pixelated grain filter footage like that ever again.

>>384463580
It's a very obvious rape analogy dum dum, maybe try paying attention to 3's plot/themes next time

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>>384463293
That is literally what he does. He is keeping track of Heather and i believe he is also responsible for leaking "otherworld" into the real world and i think he also plays a hand in reincarnating Heather/Cheryl/Alyssa everytime she gets shat out into the world as a newborn again. reminder that Heather has carried the genes of pic related for three lives now and is somehow a fucking 10/10 developed young woman despite this. Who was her father? Musta been a stud.

>>384463439
Even in that trailer the floating ghosts look fucking retarded.

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>>384463931
>Heather
>literally born pregnant

It's got incredibly gross implications when you think about it. She had a thing sat in her womb even before she sprouted her first pubic hair. How did ahe not go to the doctors when her periods never came?

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>>384463439
That trailer is so generic and conventional, Silent Hill ran out of steam fast

>>384463931
Valtiel is an angel.

Pyramid Head is the implied rapist and not even him did anything.

>>384464230
It's probably not something that an xray or scan would pick up, we're talking the occult here

>>384463439
Konami shouldn't have pushed it out so early. Instead, main team, who worked on SH3 while B-team worked on SH4, should've polished it. Some places needed improved camera angles, majority of sounds needed to be replaced and gameplay could've been improved greatly by adding a single "Drop" function. I love SH4, but it's just sad that it was obviously rushed and not polished.

>>384464465
I don't get it though. How was it achieved? Was Alyessa pregnant? Was Cheryl born pregnant too?

>>384464339
SH4 = B-team J-horror game. Wasn't made by SH3 guys.

>>384464339
>tfw got stuck on that puzzle

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>>384464341
Yeah an angel to an occult religion, anyway emphasis on "analogy", don't take everything so literally lorefag

>>384463439
>this funbus image

Why is Heather her kid self here though?

>>384464339
>its a piano puzzle
WOW JAPAN HARO NIPPON THOSAND FOLD STEEER MUH SUSHI RICE

>>384464657
you're being silly, it's literally magic

remember how she pukes up "God" at the end? instead of out the vagina? was her stomach pregnant? no.

>>384464501
Since SH1's success, Konami wanted an anthology horror game that could be released yearly like PES. Masahiro Ito said SH2's script drafts was written by 6 different people, himself included and had to be approved by Konami's management, as soon SH2 was finished, they pushed for the yearly releases plan and so SH4 was born.

>>384464984
I think the God fetus was like a cancer that was going to eat Heather's body. She wasn't going to be a mother or anything like that, the God would just absorb her body, like it happened to Claudia.

>Alessa didn't like dogs
Into the fire she goes

>>384464665
SH3 was made by Team Silent's literal B-team

>>384464984
>out the vagina
>Heather's Vagina

God i bet it's actually perfect. Im too horny for this thread.

>>384463931
>>384464465
Valtiel's job is literally to make sure the God is birthed. If anything is implied, it's that Valtiel takes you to the nearest save point to begin again, considering the symbol (Halo of the Sun) represents a number of things, one of them being rebirth. Has absolutely nothing to do with rape.

>>384465272
I think she just feared dogs.

>>384466234
Which most likely means she doesn't like them.

t. someone who's been scared of dogs since childhood

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>>384466231
Valtiel has the seal of metatron scar on his arms, which means he is the real deal.

>>384467538
Is Valtiel "true neutral"?

SH2 had a more spooky vibe to it while SH3 was always up in your face making loud noises and shit.

SH2 gave me more atmosphere spooks but SH3 gave me constant anxiety any time I stepped out of a safe area and hear the barrage of loud crap followed by fast as fuck monsters. I like both of them for different reasons but I'd probably put 2 over 3.

>>384467702
He is. He doesn't even try to kill Heather after she killed the God that he serves and protects.

I have a feeling had to plans to include Valtiel in future games and turn him an official mythological creature of the otherworld. He even appears in Cage of Cradle.

Silent Hill Lorefags are the worst

Didn't played any of the two but the magazines I've read back then were pretty much in line with the opinions here.
2 =better story and atmosphere
3= hell lot more scarier

>>384469447
Aw come on, we just love the series. Why are we bad? Lore with enthusiasts is always a fun part of vidya

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A majority of people like Silent Hill 2 the best but 3 was always way better for me. I just found it a hell of a lot scarier. It really played into my claustrophobia and had way more rust and blood and the monsters were more terrifying (except for the nurses, the nurses in silent hill 2 were way scarier). Silent hill 2 was still pretty creepy but no way near as scary for me.

>>384448825
Larval Stalkers are cute. CUTE!

>>384449513
Is..is that a picture of a ps2 case on a ps2 case?

>>384469586
I know, It's just a lot of what makes Silent Hill work is ambiguity, so I don't really care for the whole "Valtiel was born in a log cabin in Missoula, Montana in 1959" levels of lore

For real though, i like to think that maybe a year or so before SH3, Heather was a bit of a brat and a wild child who took drugs, booze and slid wetly onto chad dick, before shit got to real and Harry had to reel her the fuck in. During SH3 Heather feels like a very bright but recovering teen who although better now, has some clear mental health issues she is still dealing with. Now she just stays home and behaves in the flat. Im tired of the old "pure virgin" trope and hope that Heather was the complete fucking opposite and was a but amp, and enjoy that attention.

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>>384469808
Plus Heather is a LITERALL gift from god. yfw Harry was torn about murdering her in those first development years and sometimes briefly hated sweet baby Heather as he hated Silent Hill. yfw this is a painting of "Heather" holding baby "Heather"

>>384470504
tfw I look like a boyish heather

>>384470668
STOP THIS. YOU WILL NEVER BE BEAUTIFUL ANON. NEVER.

>>384463439
I remember being so excited when this trailer was released.

>>384469447
The only interesting thing about Silent Hill is the lore. No one cares about the muh symbolism bullshit.

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>>384470117
>those cute little squeaks they make when they fall down and get booboos

>>384470841
>the lore and symbolism aren't hand in hand

>>384470906
>cute

YOU MEAN TERRIFYING. I THOUGHT THEY WERE DEAD

>>384470425
Why are you overreacting? Valtiel has a specific function, just like a lot of things in all 4 Silent Hill games which have reasons for existing. Outside the environmental stuff that's suppose to creep you out and make you feel uneasy, 99% of things make sense, and that's not a bad thing. Things are a lot scarier when they make sense, because then it feels more real instead random things happening for no apparent reason.

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>mfw i hear Heather also appeared in Downpour and book of memories
>mfw i google that shit

PUREFAGS BTFO ABOUT HEATHER ONCE AGAIN. WHAT A SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

>>384470583
What is it about that neck that gives me chills?

>>384471209
>*mouth making fart noises for a paragraph*

>>384471229
Heather is a good and smart person, but also was a bit of a bitch hopefully. She has all the genetics for a nice body, decent ass and breasts and despite the freckle skin, her facial symetry makes her a fucking worldie. She is a beautiful girl. But miserable and a bit weird. So no doubt she was bullied for it all her life.

I like to think the school chads and such bully the fuck out of her for being an emo shit, but they are secretly all DESPERATE to fuck her, no protection. Then one night one of those Jock Chads who bullies her, meets up with her in secret, cheating on his stacey cheerleader gf, and she fucking rides that cock like sea busicuit and makes him fall in love as his spent dick goes all soft against her. Then she just packs her shit up and leaves, his hot wet load still up her as she storms off home, and she never speaks to him ever again and acts like a cold bitch to him forever. Those crazy bitches are best.

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>>384471313
I mean, she DID spontainiously create her adult god form as well as a biologically pefect human infant version of her self anon. Give Alyssa some credit.

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>>384471414
Oh cool! My work is a canon thread pasta now!

>>384471414
It's interesting what you can infer from a few little things about her, like carrying around a knife, or that she used to smoke.

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Silent Hill 2 is better in story, atmosphere, exploring and music. Silent Hill 3 is better in technical things like animation, voice acting, graphics, effects etc; that doesn't mean that the story or atmosphere is bad, it's just that in my opinion SH2 exceed at it.

I kinda like both for different reasons so I don't know which one I prefer. I guess it depends on what kind of horror you like; SH2 is a more dread and psychological experience while SH3 is more agressive in it's atmosphere.

>>384473417
>like carrying around a knife
Isn't that normal?
A-Asking for a friend, haha.

>>384473417
She far suits better a bit of a bad girl growing good than a "muh pure" anyday. Its more interesting to think that despite a DEEP hold on her heart, that maybe Harry struggles with Heather during her early teen years. She is clearly very, very affectionate, but also foul tempered as well. I bet she smoked pot, drank and at least got sticky with older boys that she shiuldn't meanwhile being bullied by others for just being... Weird. And she is. I actually like girls like that a bit. They have stories once they grow out of it. I can absolutley see Heather fucking good looking boys who bully her and then being a cold bitch when she discovers them to be unsatisfying after.

>>384447594
2 was obviously better.

>>384473492
what the fuck was vincent's problem anyways

>>384476052
DON'T LUMP ME IN WITH ALL OF THEM ANON!

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>find hammer
>game goes from survival horror to hack'n'slash

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>>384476052
I think he was just a member of the cult that had no real interest in their goals but stuck around to study the occult magic. I think it just facinates him and he is warped enough that he would allow bad things to happen just to see it happen and investigate it. He seems to try and use both the cult and Heather to serve his own needs, but his goals are not clear. He may just be crazy.

>>384476052
They look like problems to you?

>>384471041
The occult aspect of the town is more interesting than the "soul purification" spiritual bullshit that SH2fags keep trying to shove into every Silent Hill.

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What is it about Survival Horror and having the best vidya waifus?

>>384447594
SH2 is the best "classic" Silent Hill, though SH3 is an EXTRAORDINARILY close second. Homecoming is the best nu-Silent Hill and gets way more shit than it deserves even if it doesn't compare to the originals.

>>384476537
He wanted money, i think he just wanted to continue using the otherworld's powers to attract more faithful followers to get more money.
It's pretty clear that the only reason the cult was created is because the power they mess with is legit.

>>384476825
I have no idea, but whoever designed Eileen has the best taste in vidya.

>>384476825
suspension bridge effect

>>384458645

A lot of people get into SH through 2 first because of PSYCHOLOGICAL HORROR and SYMBOLISM being very blatant. It basically spoonfeeds you the story which- while good - is not particularly as atmospherically scary or interesting to explore than 1 or 3.

1 is the legit creepiest though from start to finish.

I thought SH3 would have been the best way if they didn't reuse stuff from 1 and 2. I guess it's hard because it's all based in Silent Hill, but if 3 was more standalone in story and experience I think it would have been for the better.

>>384470363
holy shit

>>384447594

SH2, because you're actually in Silent Hill and exploring it.

3 takes place generally in buttfuck nowhere and stops by the town at the end.

SH3 has always been my favorite but SH2 has traumatized me badly the first time i played through it

2
I love psychological horros, I like how other random people were dragged into SH and had their own hell to go through

Did the any community patches fix the shitty shadows in the PC version of SH2?

>>384481151
There is no fix. The shadows are the same, the thing is that the PS2 version is so low resolution that they look "soft".

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>>384470363
Platinum Hitz ,bro
all of the day

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>>384482146
>>384483201
https://youtu.be/nna2yt1c9gI?t=13m58s
It's not a huge issue or anything like that, I was just wondering if there was one before I dived in.

So exactly how bad is the HD version? I want to replay the games and that seems to be the cheapest alternative.

>>384474395
One of the great things about her character is the conflict she's constantly in, she was created outof pity for Harry so he could have another chance to raise a daughter, but the strangeness of the whole situation left its effect on both of them. Still, the last thing she and her dad said to eachother was "I love you", so she's about as good a being as one could be with her origin.

>>384483775
They're pretty bad, especially the 360 version. You should really try the PC version or emulate the PS2 version via PCSX2. If you really dislike PC gaming then try to go for the PS2 or Xbox versions, or the PS3 remaster as a last resort.