What's the most overrated game of all time?

>>384418364
Whatever game you like the most

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Don't forget your other one

>>384418364
>I
>AM
>SILLY

Who made the first strawman comic?

>>384418539
first strawman comic was found painted on a cave wall in europe somewhere

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>>384418539

>>384418364

can someone post the edited version of the NV fag chart before they post the normal one?
Would save time and (you)s

Also to answer OP, its not even NV, its probably Arma

>>384418467
Wasn't there a response post that got posted a couple of hours later?

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>>384418840
Yep

>>384418364
you know you're in the wrong when you have to draw your opponents as babies and deformed ugly retards to deliver your argument

FO3 and NV are both bad. Where's the issue? Throw em both in the trash.

>>384418764
Is this /ss/

>>384418364
Half Life 2
good, but not the second coming of videogame jesus like everyone calls it

I AM SILLY!

>>384418364
are you still this butthurt from that one NV thread
I'm not even a NV fag you're just so fun to antagonize
>filename and MD5 not found in archives
hmm
now that's really odd
are you changing them up to avoid being tracked down for spamming
because I've definitely seen this at least 10 times over the past few days

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>>384418364
Woah...

>>384419242
This image is a fucking meme. It's just a cop out when you don't have anything to respond with because the other person is right.

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>>384418501

>>384420116
Somebody must've been pretty butthurt to make this

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>>384420116
Really makes you think....

>>384420170
Using a strawman is also a cop out in the first place.

It's fucking so commonplace to have contrarian faggots on this board.

Too bad anyone who actually dislikes these games legitmately, or likes a 'bad game' legit can't actually post since they'll be grouped in with shitposters like OP.

>>384418364
A real answer would be the Witcher 3 because of the number of awards it got

Another would be Overwatch. It was fun at release but I'm surprised people still play it considering its lack of content and gameplay variety. Many people have abandoned it and the current playerbase only complains about the meta

>NV not better than 3
I needed that laugh

It is incredibly bizarre to me how /v/ can claim FO3 is bad but NV is amazing when both are incredibly similar and both are absolutely good games.

>>384420829
How about how NV actually acknowledges the games before it

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>>384418364

One of these. Probably Super Metroid, it takes less skill than Barney's Hide and Seek.

Because I am nice and bored as fuck I going to reinstall fo3

>>384418364
how mad are you to be posting this once a day

>>384420560
No, you just have to elaborate why instead of using shitty MS paint comics.
NV is overrated as shit - it's considered one of the best rpgs but its quest design and integration with gameplay is literally trash. The thing it gets most credit for is branching storylines, which considering the maxiumum amount of gameplay content in a quest is fuck all, that's not hard to do. Though it is better than fallout 4
And the gunplay is just trash for both of them.

Gameplay is the most important thing and most RPGs drop the ball hard.
Divinity and runescape are the only two rpgs that have actual quest design, with puzzles, riddles, mysteries, strategic bosses, where flavor text and stuff is actually important.

I don't know about all time but Nier Automata is the most overrated game of this year.

>>384420170
How is it a cop out? This image is just flinging shit at strawman comics for making the author's opponent dumb and generalized enough for him to rebut when that's rarely the case in any situation. If you take this image as an actual argument of its own you're fucking stupid.

>>384421098
*though it is better than fallout 3
fallout 4 had a couple puzzles in it
braindead tier puzzles, sure, but puzzles nonetheless
from a gameplay standpoint the quest design is better than NV or FO3
Writing quality and everything else is trash tier of course

Vtmb. Come at me.

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Zelda, Pokemon, Bio Shock, Mass Effect, FIFA, Dark Souls,Half Life, Portal,Counter Strike, Final Fantasy,DOTA and LoL, Fallout, Halo and much more

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>>384418838
This one?

>>384420116
>If you disagree, you are Todd Howard
>Josh Sawyer

okay i chuckled

BOTW
Prove me wrong

Probably Halo.

>>384421058
>2 metroid games
Very clear the person who made this had a bone to pick with the series. There are other games that are far more overrated

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>>384418364
NV is definitely overrated. I like the game but it's not as good as /v/ says it is. It's better than 3, but not by much. 3 definitely had better exploration and a more interesting map, NV is linear as fuck and while it has more quests most of them are just dull.

Either way both NV and 3 are better than 4. That thing is a boring piece of shit.

>>384421098
NV has the problem that it is Fallout 3 gameplay wise. But the story and worldbuilding are pretty good.

>>384421098
But your argument is just "it's bad"

Puzzles don't need to be in an rpg, flavour text in New Vegas is probably one of the best (Father Elijahs journals being a great example.)

Quest structure is excellent for the most part, there's some fetch quests but the cannbal quest line is one of the best on par with the quality of Arcanum's quest structure.

Gunplay is okay, there's no boss battles but the RPG elements save the day with DT/DR weapon degradation and VATS (I prefer modding to slow time rather than stop and shoot)

Fallout 4 has better gunplay, that's literally it.

>>384420396
Fallout 3 sucks, NV is pretty good though.

>>384418364
Honestly New Vegas is definitely not good enough to warrant a permenant general thread on a board without general threads, so I'm going to choose to believe this strawman comic as New Vegas fans do come across as total faggots

>>384420170
>this is what faggots who make strawmen actually believe

Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78

Skyrim for sure.

>play new vegas
>it's just a giant desert filled with nothing and getting anywhere takes too long and everything is boring
No thanks

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YOU CALL THAT A STRAWMAN?!?!??

EAT THIS!!

>>384420396
>reddit-fied

Hmmm

>>384418436
fpbp

I liked the desert more than Washington, fight me

>>384421832
>one hour and half
NVfags are this autistic

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>>384421832
HE ACTUALLY POSTED IT
>unironically posting h.bombercuck
>H. "Dark Souls is bad and hard because I can't heal during every fight" Bomber

>>384421604
My argument isn't that it's bad, my argument is that it's not as good as runescape. Which is what I consider to be the standard for RPG quest design. Having high as fuck standards isn't bad especially when it isn't actually difficult to beat them, devs are just lazy.
>Puzzles don't need to be in an rpg
Some form of riddle/puzzle/minigame/etc. should be.
Else it's just handholding, plus it gives variety to what you're actually doing.

Quest structure is irrelevant when you boil it down to the core gameplay elements and it is NOTHING but walking killing and talking(interacting with objects in the world is basically talking, just a menu), blizzard tier quests. There are few that aren't like that but most are.

Quality of flavortext is irrelevant when you don't actually need to use it to get endings, it's just superfluous.
Making picking up the items that have said flavortext/subtext unlock things also isn't what I mean, you should actually have to pay attention to it and this should help guide your choices, one example of this actually being used in NV is how if you pass some skill checks in dead money you get dean's bad end because you offended him due to not paying attention to his characterization. Unfortunately that's like the only time it happens.

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>>384418364
You can not dispute this.

>>384422571
>Drakengard
pffff, nobody thinks that Drakengard is a good game

>>384422352
His arguments are pretty valid though.

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>>384422571
>video games are about gameplay
I don't see what's wrong with this

>>384422571
>videos games are about gameplay
>includes a novel in game form
wha

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>>384422571
>Donkey Kong Country 2

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>384422571
>Video games are about gameplay

What is wrong with this? Books have detail, movies have visuals and games have interactivity.

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>>384422571
This is definitely not an optimal list, here I refined it for you

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>>384418364

>>384422004
NO NOT AGAIN

>>384422757
>>384422853
It's a very naive opinion to hold gameplay in an extremely high regard, most of the time what constitutes good gameplay includes presentation

>>384422687
>starts off with a cringey skit
>spends the first 30 minutes complaining what reviewers and marketers were saying about the game
>makes hour and a half long videos expecting people to sit through it
>what you get is only people with predetermined opinions on the subject watching it because the video title aligns with their views, then posting it as their argument because they're incapable of arguing themselves

>>384418364
Witcher 3

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>>384422571
Hmm. Where have I seen this before?

>>384423171
A game can look like shit and still be fun

>>384423305
So what has Fallout 3 going for it?

>>384423171
>presentation
what does this even mean?
Art design?
Easy of access to gameplay?
How it looks in marketing materials?

>>384423440
You need everything to come together and be complimentary to have a good game. Gameplay is important, but so is everything else

>>384423574
Name a SINGLE good game that doesn't have good gameplay.

>>384423440
Yes that's true but you would be delusional if you think Doom would be just as fun with zero sound

>>384423536
It's completely self explanatory, it's how the game presents itself to you, including sound, visuals, and narrative

I

everything i don't like is reddit: the thread

>>384423484
shit gameplay
shit graphics
mediocre ost
shit performances
shit story but its a video game anyway
horrible ui

it got pro Rhodesian propaganda I guess.

>>384423689
>>384423574
True, but the issue is that you need solid gameplay that ties everything together. You might have the most gorgeous game ever but if it isn't fun to play, why bother with it?

>>384423993
>You might have the most gorgeous game ever but if it isn't fun to play, why bother with it?
Because it's gorgeous.

>>384423895
And all those things come secondary to gameplay unless they're integrated as part of it, like sound design being intrinsic to most atmospheric horror gameplay as well as rhythm games.

>>384423678
The secret of Monkey Island
Croc
Medievil
Resident Evil 1-2
Spec Ops the line
Mass effect 1
Most Civilization builder games and grand strategy games
A lot of turn based rpgs

>>384423949
So we agree that the game sucks?

>>384424046
So crysis is a good game?

>>384424046
Well that's dumb, might as well just look at some screenshots and videos

>>384424063
>Medievil
>RE 1-2
>Civ
>Not good gameplay

Kingdom Hearts, whole series.

I think both NV and FO3 are kinda crap.

Good concept, but, it's just ruined by a completely shit engine and bad writing.

>>384424046
If it's sole reason to be is to look pretty it's not a game it's a graphics tech demo.
A game's reason to be is to be played, as a game.
A piece of art's reason to be is to be aesthetically appreciated.
etc.

>>384423425
since when was evanescence weeaboo garbage

>>384418364
ff7 or hl2 are both low tier entries in their respective franchises that are heralded as the best games of all time to inexperienced players, which is most players

>>384424414
There are a LOT of FF games worse than 7.

The people who spout 7 is the best is retarded though.

>>384424243
The older Resident Evils had pretty bad, archaic gameplay, especially with the camera angles.

Most ps1 games you probably loved don't really hold up as well as you remember

Some civ games have good gameplay, but some also are really boring and tedious but are still considered good by the people who play civ games

>>384424059
It's not secondary at all, games are meant to be entertaining, first and foremost

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>>384424534
My opinion on your opinion about Resident Evil.

>>384424598
Good news is most people don't agree with your opinion and think you're an idiot

>>384424587
Entertaining as an interactive medium.
Interactive being the key word.
Also there are different kinds of fun (and if you don't manage it right you'll wind up one of those faggots in a tired gamer thread whining about how they can't enjoy anything) and vidya isn't supposed to provide the same entertainment as movies.

>>384424598
I really don't care what you think

>>384424698
Yeah I guess they made RE7 as a joke. Ha ha.

>>384418364
Definitely Skyrim.

My friends all herald it as some gift from God and act like you can never get old of it. It got old quick, years ago.

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>>384424836
>he thinks 7 is anything like 1

>>384424534
>>Some civ games have good gameplay, but some also are really boring and tedious but are still considered good by the people who play civ games
that's because the target audience of civ, grand strat, and 4x is autists.
It's like saying spacechem or shenzenIO are bad games despite the fact that they have a very clear target audience of autistic people.

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>>384422571
>doom and rez are pretentious
what the actual fuck?

>>384424971
So then what defines good gameplay anon? It's subjective enough as it is.

>>384424767
Do you think anyone does? Do you think anyone cares about what you think for that matter?

Did you just get here?

>>38442470
And what makes interaction fun?
How do we experience things in real life, we use our senses of course.

You really think people would give a shit about, say the devil may cry series if Dante moved around in a T pose through combat.

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fucking epic reddit breddit

>>384424702
Well you can't objectively measure fun. For some people reading a novel is fun, for some people drving is fun, for most people on /b/ sticking a screwdriver up their ass is fun. Do I need to go on?

>>384425097
Might as well ask what makes visuals in movies "good". It is a subjective matter with a general consensus.

I

>>384425184
Why did you just post the same thing OP posted?

>>384418364
the last of us

undertale

literally THE most overrated games in the past 10 years

AM

>>384425147
It would get less praise but will still have some fun with the combos because the base gameplay is good, which is what everyone is saying.

If the base gameplay is good then presentation is 100% needed but you need that gameplay first.

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>>384421319
>weapon variety doesn't matter because melee weapons, reskins, and weak/pointless weapons
No.
>melee weapons
What this means is that Fallout 3 literally only had four types of unarmed weapon (not accounting for unique variants), and Obsidian actually tried to make melee combat viable in NV. That said, every weapon type has noticeably more variety in New Vegas. For example, the 10mm SMG was literally the only type of SMG in the entirety of Fallout 3.
>reskins
It's very ironic that someone would make this argument to defend Fallout 3, a game where they couldn't even be bothered to reskin unique weapons. F3's weapon "variety" is largely padded by unique weapons, too, so most of F3's weapons are literally just stat upgrades to the few weapon types that are in the game.
>weak/pointless weapons
Is this nigga seriously complaining about gear progression in a fucking RPG, which every major Fallout title has done? Better yet, how do you justify this argument in defense of F3, when the unique items in F3 where literally just the same weapon with better stats and weapon mods didn't exist for non-unique ones?

^Do you see how much time it took just for me to take apart a single sentence of this drivel?
Every single letter of those images is fucking retarded, and the only reason they keep getting reposted is that nobody has the time to write a novel on why OP is a colossal faggot for posting a shitty MS paint comic.

>>384425201
You kind of can though, just not completely

Take any game and mute it and out it in black and white, it's probably less fun

>>384425207
Pretty sure to an extent we can say some games have better gameplay than others, with older games and more niche genres not nearly having as refined or good gameplay as others, save a few examples like Mario 64

>>384421319
>/v/ hates skyrim
I thought /v/ liked bad games.

>>384425097
Defining good is hard as fuck, but defining average or bad isn't.
Average is stuff with a very low skill floor and very low skill ceiling. In a word, shallow.
Bad is lack of gameplay and game interaction, like david cage movies. I respect him for calling his shit movies.


>>384425201
The various neurotransmitter activities that cause happiness, feeling rewarded after doing something, etc. can be measured and quantified.
It's a science.

>>384425434
What is Donkey Kong Country games on the Game boy?

Oh now I get it. YOu guys don't like Fallout 3 either hm?

>>384425302
Don't forget Witcher 3 and Memeborne

>>384425414
delete this

>>384418364
>>384420116
>>384420396
Keep up the good work. I actually love NV and know you're just a troll but i love seeing all these fanboys butthurt kek

>>384425327
It would cheap fleeting entertainment that is completely immemorable because humans respond to their environment using their senses

There are plenty of trashy mobile games and flash games that fundamentally have good gameplay, but no one gives a shit because they aren't actually good games.

It's impossible to deny that what constitutes good gameplay includes how the game is presented to you, because that's the nature of the medium

>>384425302
Undertale is the correct answer. I played the game, and enjoyed it, but people act like its some amazing work of genius. Its an Earthbound clone made by the guy who made Homestuck, filled with weak humor that boils down mostly to in-jokes and references, and has a weak artstyle. The gameplay is interesting, but it becomes pretty repetitive. I enjoyed the silliness of the game for what it was, but I wouldn't crown it as some ground breaking achievement. Hell, even the creator said that the game in his opinion is only like a 7 or 8 at best.

>>384425497
Didn't know this. How is this science called?

>>384418878
These are completely dogshit counter arguments.

Final Fantasy Seven

This isn't debatable
Ocarina of Time a close runner up

>>384425801
Neurochemistry.
What psychology wishes it was.

>>384425867
Thanks anon.

>>384425556
Those were insanely difficult, total opposite of the SNES ones..

>>384425839
But what's better, FF 7 or Ocarina of Time?

>>384425414
>melee is more viable with more superfluous weapons rather better skills, progression and attacks based around melee attacks
Sure kid.

>this doesn't count because 3 does it too
Not an argument

>pointless weapons are now good and not filler
Well ok then

The Witcher 3

>>384421319
>Companions in 3 have literally as much dialogue as "here's an order. do it" as opposed to full quests and conversations in NV

>The claim that NV's companions have more depth is "pure opinions"

I want to believe this is bait but he seems genuinely serious in thinking that he's BTFO'd FNV. Anyway good image, f@m.

>>384426136
Personally OoT. FF7 was way too long for me.

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You better stop talking shit about my game /v/. Remember what happened last time.

>>384425708
the way you post reeks of reddit

>>384426284
To be fair, the way the original chart described it was hyping up NV way more than it deserved.

The thing basically says NV companions are cool and 3's are boring and one dimensional because I say so" when that's simply not true. 3's companions have personality and depth.

>>384426510
BUY MEIN GAME

>>384425207
good is what keeps you in a sweet spot of engagement and challenge. it's not easy, and no game can sustain it the entire time, but some do it better/more often than others, so those are better. it's more like if a game can suck less than others, that makes it exceptional. it's a tricky balancing act.

I'M WACKY

>>384425867
desu psychology is such a divided and conflicted field not even psychologists themselves are sure what they wish it was

>>384421058
I'd vote Tactics. Not in view of its actual virtues but because I find it extremely unlikely most of the people who talk about it (me included, though I rarely have) have ever played it. It's one of those things like obscure foreign films that only have out-of-print DVD releases from twenty years ago - more talked about than played, and that talk is almost universal praise. To the extent that praise is coming from people who don't have the firsthand knowledge? Yeah, it's overrated. To steal a phrase from Brad Edmonds, it's become French cuisine - looked at and talked about.

>>384426889
From what I gather they like to pretend it has actual scientific merit and that freud is relevant.
I still have no idea why they continually jerk him off.

>>384426592
I'll give you that one desu. But anyone that doesn't see how different both games are in thinking how an RPG is supposed to be is a retard. We all know how Bethesda are.

>>384418364

Like I would ever read this autistic diarrhea of text.

>>384426979
Psychoanalysis is not even considered part of psychology anymore. most psychologists who care about trying to turn psychology into a science have turned away from Freud a long time ago.

>>384423678
Drakengard

>>384426142
>rather better skills, progression and attacks
Except NV had progression that made melee more viable, the perks for it are 90% of what make it good.

>Not an argument
It is if the person I'm replying to is speaking in defense of Fallout 3, which both of those people absolutely were. Fallout 3 objectively has a worse problem with the things those people were complaining about than NV, so they have no right to complain about it while saying that 3 is better.

>>pointless weapons are now good and not filler
Adding variety to the game is a virtue in itself, as long as the weapons are useful for the part of the game where you have access to them (which they are).
By all means, point out some weapons that are just flat out pointless at every stage of the game.

>>384418364
youre favorite game

Has anyone played the NV dlcs on very hard? I did back in the day and holy shit did they suck.

>>384421319
>Muh GOTY's
People eat shit up. Welcome to life. The last time Bethesda made a good game in-house was Morrowind.
>Quests in NV don't give you any choices!
Sure they do. I think the issue is more that quests in FO3 give you the choice between being a boy scout and being a retarded sociopath.
>No quests look like this!
Just the main quest.
>Most of the quests and zones don't affect the story!
While partially true, even if only half the quests actually had some measurable outcome in the end-story that's still a shitload more than FO3.
>Companions in FO3 have depth to them!
What the shit are you talking about? The overhaul to the companion system in New Vegas completely obliterates what FO3 offered.
>Most of the factions don't matter!
The game not forcing you to interact with every faction doesn't mean they're not factions. I will concede that the Enclave is effectively a non-entity though.
>Muh weak pointless weapons! Melee weapons don't count! Reskins don't either!
Weapon mods and non-generic ammo types keep weapons relevant well past the point you'd be dumping them in FO3. Obsidian made an actual effort to make melee weapons useful. I feel like I'm the only person who bothered to see what happened when I gave Cassidy hand rolled shotgun rounds.
>New Vegas had a quest that was silly and superfluous! They can't complain about FO3 having nonsense quests!
You're not forced to help the ghouls. Silly quests fit into the core story of FO3. Do we need to bring up the ending to FO3? Or how all sins are forgiven, including nuking an innocent town, by giving bums water? Speaking of water, why is a water purifier so important? Every eyebot we're led to believe can produce clean water. They're everywhere.


And I think that gets to the heart of it. No one's saying New Vegas is revolutionary. Most of what worked in the game was rooted in stuff Bethesda hashed out. The difference was that the writing for New Vegas didn't suck.

>>384418364
the 3d fallout games as a whole are all overrated as fuck

>>384423425

>no Akira

ONE.
JOB.
ANON.

>>384427205
But they still wank him off in their course material, I've taken at least one class.
It's like spending as shitload of time on the guy who came up with the first model of the atom.
He should get a passing mention as being wrong, and that's it.

Why do you think Deus Ex is overrated? Could someone explain? Played it a few years ago.

>>384426142
Unstoppable Force and Slayer are two melee centric perks that makes melee much better in NV.
Piercing strike and the hidden unarmed styles for unarmed.

NV does have reskins, but it also has more interesting melee weapons like a flaming sword attached to a gas tank, throwing spears, and the bumper sword. 3 can't even do reskins correctly. Most of the time its just the same model with a fancy name. Occam's Razor isn't even an actual razor. Its just a combat knife.

Weak weapons at the beginning help build up a sense of progression, and help to widen the gap between 0 and 100 in the skill, making your investments feel more meaningful.

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>>384421832
>one hour of "reeeee bethesda"

>>384427581
Maybe its just my computer, but Deus Ex just refuses to run properly for me, even though it handles more recent games just fine.

>>384425023

Doom no, but I only know one person that actually enjoys Rez and all he fucking does is play it, Beatmania, and Mother (in Japanese).

Yeah, it's for pretentious fags.

>>384427664
This isn't an issue with the game, I'm just pointing out how a game from 2000 somehow runs worse than a game from 2013.

>>384427556
As I said, the field is extremely divided. Some still cling to his work, others have abandoned him.

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>another thread where disgusting subhuman bethcucks are BTFO

all of the popular ones

>>384427787
honestly this whole fucking thread has made fallout fans as a whole look like brain dead retards

>>384418364
It's a toss up between Half Life 2 and Smash Melee

>>384427593
>>384427264
Right so in other words the amount of melee weapons is unimportant, what I said.

Also the shishkebab was in fallout 3.

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>mfw now it's cool to hate New Vegas and love 3

>>384427593
Dinner Bell and Paciencia are good examples. They're statistically better in some ways but there's tradeoffs. You get the accuracy of a Hunting Shotgun with choke, and with the right perks it's one of the most powerful weapons per shot in the entire game. But you can't improve the magazine and overall DPS from a Riot gun is still higher. Paciencia does some of the highest per-shot damage of any weapon in the game and pushes .308 as far as it can possibly go on the damage tables but it has piss-poor magazine capacity (3 goddamn shots!) and no scope.

I think I only ever found two of the unique variant weapons in Fallout 3, the Xuanlong and the Backwater rifle, and they were personal favorites of mine. A reskin would probably have done some good to help them stand out from the rest of the arsenal.

>>384427770
You might need to do some aftermarket tweaking. Look up PCGaming Wiki. It might have a guide to help you out. If the specific help provided doesn't quite cut the mustard, look up more general UE1 (Unreal, UT) fixes for making them more Windows 7/8/8.1/10 compliant. It might be a DirectX or VC++ library issue. A lot of that stuff is no longer packed in standard with a windows distro.

>>384428328
>they dont agree with me REEEEEEEEEEE

>>384428328
It's what happens when you can't hold on to your spaghetti and spill it all over everyone on a daily basis.

>>384424767
>let me tell you about how much i dont care

>>384427527
too popular to be pretentious

>>384428328
>now
NV has always been overrated shit, Obsidiots just never leave their circlejerk to see how everyone looks down upon them.

>>384428328
I'd be heartened by the lack of consensus if this one wasn't trying to forge itself on a bed of lies. If the people saying New Vegas isn't what it's cracked up to be could get there without basic entry-level falsehoods about the game or its content that anyone who has done a reasonably complete playthrough can refute without considerable effort I'd consider their opinions of some merit.

If I were more paranoid I'd conclude it's some kind of astroturf.

>>384428281
>adding variety to the game is a virtue in itself
It's almost like things that make the game more fun and allow the player's gear to reflect the character they're role-playing as improve an RPG's gameplay.
What a shock.

>>384427485
Don't give a fuck about most of it but

>Every eyebot we're led to believe can produce clean water.

Well, I dunno, let's see. A mass-scale purifier that's not just shitting out water bottles by the boxful, but cleans the entire basin itself for all comers, vs some bots here and there who can fork over a single unit of Evian once a day. I wonder which could be more useful? Hmmmmmm.

enclave did nothing wrong

>>384429184
The problem is really deeper than that, though. There's supposed to be some kind of a water crisis in the region but we never see any substantial evidence of it. It's not the only thing wrong with the central conflict/line, not even the worst thing, but it is a problem. This doesn't even consider how utterly cockamamie James' solution to the problem actually is.
>>384429615
A vote for Richardson is a vote for America.

>>384426592
>when that's simply not true. 3's companions have personality and depth.
Not really. They've got 'personality', but they certainly don't have any depth besides maybe Charon (which comprises all of two interactions, so that barely counts)

>>384429895
I don't give a shit about that. All I was replying to was a retard's wondering why a massive water purifier might be important when there's some bots around who can do little bits at a time.

It seemed self-evident to me, but apparently there are people on this board stupid enough to not understand the concept of scale, so.

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This is the same shit for every franchise.

90% of the people who defend their favorite game don't do it for mechanics,plot,locations or anything of that such. The only thing that fucking matters is which one you grew up playing. The same fucking thing happened with the TES series.

Mark my fucking words, whenever bethesda manages to shit out the next TES game people will gush over how awesome skyrim was Simply because it's what they latched on to when their were still maturing.

Childhood nostalgia is a hell of a drug and this awful cycle of series debates will never end. We're doomed to be stuck arguing with children ,teenagers, and man children until the next generation comes in and starts circle jerking about their childhood/adolescence game as well.

I feel like I must be fucking crazy because despite /v/ being stuck in the same pattern for over ten years I'm still browsing it.

>>384420170
I don't even give a fuck about fallout. I just think OP is a massive dipshit.

>>384430103
>through dialogue and conversation you can learn about their past
>through your actions and reactions, you learn about their perception of your actions and of the world, as well as their morals and values
>each character is pretty colorful and unique
3 had good companions. Fuck off. New Vegas used the same means of exploring their companions

>>384423171
Doom looks great.

>>384430601
You're confusing personality for depth. Fallout 3's companions have defined personalities, but they're entirely one-note characters with no complexity or depth whatsoever. Every companion is entirely straightforward, exactly as they appear at first glance with no intricacy or hidden depth. Being able to ask them about their history does't equate to depth. Not to mention the clusterfuck of writing to justify that original 'ending' with some of the companions.
>New Vegas used the same means of exploring their companions.
I wasn't particularly referring to NV - it was just a criticism of F3's companions - but okay. Except NV also has skill checks, a companion influence system, companion remarks, unlockable dialogue, character development and arcs, companion quests, and characters that aren't just the boring archetype they look like. That is, complexity and depth to the characters.

>3 had good companions. Fuck off.
3 doesn't even have good companions by the standard of games that had been released years earlier, let alone New Vegas.

>>384418364

Bloodborne

>>384418364
MGS for me; having more cutscene content than gameplay content should be a negative not a GOTY feature

>>384423171
>It's a very naive opinion to hold gameplay in an extremely high regard
there it is. The absolute most unbearably retarded thing I've ever heard on an image board for interactive entertainment.

>>384433514
>i have never played the VR mission
At least play the game before you pretend to shit on it.

>>384422571
Wait, Majora's Mask is actually the best Zelda.

And stay the fuck away from my NieR you plebs don't deserve it

>>384435241
I have played it up to the section after the Tank boss fight, or the Hind whichever is further on, legitimately got sick of playing 5 mins of okay sneaking gameplay only to sit and watch 40 mins of cutscenes repeatedly.

>>384418364
Overwatch threatens to kill the gaming industry by forcing competitors to switch to the "Hero shooter" model which will make online multiplayer cancerous to the nth degree.

>>384435532
that's why they gave you an entire cd worth of cutscene-less gameplay, which offered both stealth and non-stealth gameplay. They literally made it just for people like you who blindly buy games outside of their comfort zone.

either bioshock or zelda

>>384428948
It's just shitposting and bait, you can find it anywhere >>384422614