Is this worth it for someone who hasn't loved an MMO besides

>korean
>grind fest
>no end game
>pay to win
>pay to have literally any armor that's not a burlap sack
Anyone that recommends this game is a paid shill

>>384414959
this

>>384414375
You can get a 7 day trial on the official site.

>>384414959
isnt that every mmo?

>>384414375
>>384414959
>OP asks for a grindy MMO with a nice progression and an emphasis on social stuff
Black desert is grindy, but at times it sure feels like Runescape
>go to island by ferry
>fish over there
>return to mainland to sell fish
etc.etc.
there is certainly something there for Runescape fans and the combat is fun too.
however, your armor never changing much kinda sucks.
i have only played it around the Launch in the West, it didn't have any Pay2Win in there except for some Ghilliesuit i think.
might have changed.
it's a fun game and to be perfectly honest... it's totally worth the 10 bucks.
don't expect much socialising though, barely any group content and no real reason to interact with other players except PvP and auction house.

>free to play everywhere else in the world
>buy to play and still has the pay to win cash shop in the US
Why would anyone ever play this

I actually really like this game because it's a sandbox, living-world MMORPG. Experience fast-paced, action-packed combat, hunt monsters and huge bosses, fight with friends in a guild to siege nodes and region castles, train your life skills such as fishing, trading, crafting, cooking, and much more!

>>384415246
>auction house.
That the devs set the prices for and you can't even pick what seller you want to buy from, the system picks for you
Don't fall for the meme like I did

>>384415458
>this literally copy pasted ad roll

>>384415679
>and much more!

fucking christ

>>384414375
>f2p in the country of origin
Why do even even ask?
Never touch b2p or f2p

>>384415246
its sandbox which i guess runescape is

but its way more intricate than runescape and like any other mmo ever made

>>384414959
>>korean
So?
>>grind fest
Literally every MMO.
>>no end game
Good. Endgame ruined MMOs.
>>pay to win
Meme.
>>pay to have literally any armor that's not a burlap sack
You can buy them with silver through the market.

>>384414375
If you like old school RuneScape I'd suggest checking out Albion Online. Might wait for a sale a little down the line, not sure how well populated it's going to be.

>>384416259
i highly advise against this.
yes it looks like the spiritual successor to runescape but
>30 bucks entry fee
>10$ a month "premium" subscription
why did they fuck up so hard? i wish it wouldn't be like this.

>>384416126
Ignore this disgusting shill unless you like pay2win koreashit.

>>384416434
to be fair, the premium takes like 2 hours of gathering to get every 30 days

>>384416126
>>>pay to win
>Meme.
no it's fucking not lol
the more convenience you get over others the more you WIN you dolt. unless you think spending 5 hours doing something that a f2p spent 15 hours doing is equal and fair?

>>384414375
its alright, try the free trial anon
its almost as grindy as runescape
has better combat

but gearwise there isnt a lot there

>>384414375
>Is this worth it
No.

>>384416652
thats still not pay to win, anon
thats like buying a fast track pass at a theme park

peasants in their grind queues will get there eventually

>>384417015
Being able to grind better when you're playing a game that is LITERALLY ABOUT GRINDING

>>384416259
>Albion Online
Ah, the other mmo that has paid shills here
Make sure you pay your extra fee for each of your alts so you can actually raise their skills, and you absolutely need alts since your first character is locked to combat only

>>384417015
>It's not p2w you just need to play more than 24 hours a day!
>You just need to get lucky and buy stuff at the Marketplace. :)

>>384417549
every MMO is pay2win.

>>384414375
korean mmos are always extreme grind fests

>>384417697
No, you're just retarded. Let me explain it to someone as ignorant as you.

>>Does paying money give you an advantage over other players?
>Yes.
It's p2w.
>No.
It's not p2w.

>>384418210
wich MMO isn't pay 2 win then?

>>384414375
Yes, it's basically this generation's old school Runescape with a Korean aftertaste.

>>384418286
WoW used to be not for example.

>>384418456
>used to be
so you cant name one, wich means i am correct in saying that every MMO is pay 2 win

>>384418534
No, you'd have to correct your statement to "every current MMO is p2w" and even then I doubt it is correct. Just because I can't name a counterexample atm doesn't make it true. I just wouldn't know because I avoid this cancerous genre because all of those games are shit. Maybe another anon can name something.

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>>384414375
No. Here are the top selling points according to shills and why they're bullshit:

>MUH SANDBOX
Not true in the slightest. Due to restricted trading, non-living economy, and an end game that favours enhancing slots it is very much a themepark, just barebones.

>MUH LIFE SKILLS I CAN FISH ALL DAY
Most life skills are about afking or watching your character travel across the world with auto-pathing. If you find that fun then more power to you.

>MUH OPEN WORLD PVP
Extremely restricted since PKing is almost always disadvantageous. PvP is also horribly imbalanced (two classes have been at the top since beta with no nerfs) and server desync means you're either spamming AoE or spamming grabs/lockdown combos.

>MUH EPIC GUILD WARS
Boils down to the biggest guilds sitting inside cities waiting for people to login then zerg rushing each other. Imbalances from PvP also mean guilds with the biggest whales/no lifers and most witches/wizards will win.

>MUH PRETTY WAIFU GRAPHICS
Yeah, BDO is probably the best looking MMO on the market. I'll give you fags that.

>>384414959
>>384416126
>>>grind fest
>Literally every MMO.

exepct some MMOs make grinding fun. In tera, for example, you can't sit back and let the game play it's self because of minimal input requirements to win. (runescape, WoW, countless others)

Futhermore, the party system for grinding in tera is made in such a way where each time you play a dungeon, you will have to slightly rethink your strategies.

>endgame is bad
How so? An endgame allows players to focus on the guild portion of the game without feeling pressured to be the best character they can be.

disclaimer: tera isnt perfect, but it fit the example which I used it in

>>384418996
dont forget, its so poorly optimised that you need a 2 grand rig to get 60fps in cities

>>384414375
It's got ships
Horse / Animal breeding
Territory management, this one gets blown out of proportion with PvP to control some areas.
PvE is not bad
PvP for fun, just go around killing everyone.
It's fun for a while, it may be too much grind, good thing you can pay to win.
PvP instance is fun too

Hell no, that "game" is a grindy shithole unless you want to p2w.

>>384416259
This game looks like it plays like shit and it reminds me too much of how RS3 looks from what I've seen of gameplay videos. No way in hell I'm paying $30+monthly for this

>>384414375
It's essentially deeper Runescape, you'll probably like it. I got a ton of hours out of it for 6 bucks so I'm not mad at all.

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>>384418286
>FFXIV
Pay for level boost but everyone caps at the same level.
>World of Warcraft
Pay for level boost or gold, but everyone caps at the same level and the gold can't buy you the best gear, because it binds on pickup.
These are both pay-for-convenience, ironically a term invented by BDO faggots to whitewash their shit game's predatory business model.
Now compare the above to:
>EVE
Pay for PLEX, which you can resell ingame for money, where that money can be used to maximize skills through bought injectors and buy the best weapons and ships in the game.
>Black Desert
Pay for cosmetic shit with stats you can't get anywhere else, coupons that give you extra gem slots for more stats, pets that give you more stats and increase your grinding income via pickup rate, 'value packs' that give you 30% more silver on auctionhouse transactions, worker/warehouse slots that increase your max contribution point level, an extra 200lbs carry weight in a game where even money has weight... the list literally goes on and on and on.
These are textbook pay2win and there IS no counterargument, period.

Anyone shilling for Black Desert is literally just another sunk-cost-fallacy faggot trying to rope more people into his dead game, to justify the fact that he spent 500 dollars on slut outfits but now spends most of his playtime AFK fishing because there's nothing else to do.

>>384414959
>grindfest
You can get up to Level 56 in a day or week.

>no end game
True.

>pay to win
>pay to have literally any armor that's not a burlap sack

No it isn't. The game gives you shitloads of silver for free, just by logging in everyday.
There are even quests that give you shit that is worth a fuckload. Your only valid complaint is the lack of an end game. Also, the game is way too fucking easy even after Level 56.
Anyway, I don't recommend the game as much as I enjoy it. Feel like you'll eventually get bored and find you have nothing to do.

There is no such thing as a good MMORPG.
And World of Warcraft was never good either.
Still, I've had more fun with it than any other MMORPG I've played in my life.

But I guess it's just out of nostalgia for playing Runescape, Perfect World and Ragnarok Online. Just wish Jews weren't involved with this genre whatsoever.

>>384421852
>You can get up to Level 56 in a day or week.
Okay? Hitting 56 is pretty much the pinpoint tip of the grinding iceberg. It's the equivalent of finishing a tutorial.

>>384414375
What's the lewdest armor in this game?

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>>384420762
I don't think anyone but Star Citizen tier autists buy top tier ships with real money in EVE