How would you salvage Assassins' Creed overaching plot?

What even is the overarching plot currently? The whole doomsday shit is over right? Now, the only threat is Juno in the internet? What's she even up to?

>>384403373
First Civilization game. Not that I care about the Assassin plotline. A high-tech proto-civilization setting would be interesting is all.

>>384403373
Dump the plot entirely, make each game its own entry and ditch the whole anima machine or whatever the fuck it's called. The game doesn't need a story that takes place in modern day to be interesting

No one gives a shit about it. Just fucking drop it.

>>384403373
>How would you salvage Assassins' Creed
It's finished, move on

>>384403547

The past few games have been Abstergo using the animus to get material to make videogames. I am not kidding.

Make the black flag of splinter cells

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>>384403373
I'm actually curious what the original ending to Desmond's story was going to be before they decided that they'd rather milk the series indefinitely.

the only thing I liked about these games is the assassins vs templars thing, I just liked how they had their own symbol and clothing for every nation, it was pretty cool

>>384405535
Wut. So, what's been happening in the modern times since 3?

>>384405803
Didn't they get rid of the original guy for the series? Last I heard he wanted to do something completely different with Desmond and they fucked him over as hard as possible.

>>384406168
i mean the Desmond related shit was like the Vann of AC. You could delete the modern world from the game and you'd still have a game. At best you establish the bit about the animus and than allow the player to play the game without interruptions.

>>384403373
I think that if they would have dumped the Animus stuff and just had each game take place in that timeperiod it would have gone over better. And to have the connection between games, just rely heavily on it being an ancient order throughout the centuries with references for events in the series being able to be naturally found in the game world.

For starters, Juno needs to get killed and the Fisrt Civ focus needs to disappear.

But fuck it, it's all gone to shit anyway. Only a hard-reboot can help, remove that shit entirely.

>>384405803
Don't you remember AC2's ending? Everything was leading up for Desmond to become the best Assassin and try to fuck the Templars up in the modern day.

>>384403963

Pretty much this, would have been a LOT more interesting and would have been less restrictive as to where/when the devs could set the games.

Instead, they pretty much cucked themselves while trying to make a "cool" plot that nobody even liked.

>>384406168
The "original guy" was Patrice Desilets. There was this huge fucking drama with him and Ubisoft. IIRC, there's a story of him being escorted out by security or something.

Anyways, he was the lead guy up to Brotherhood It think, and a bit to Revelations, and he got the Boot. It's pretty obvious he was the one in control of the Animus and Desmond and precursor stuff, so when he got out, I guess Ubi just wanted to end Desmond ASAP, and the team was a bit directionless in what to do after he left with the rest of the shit the old lead have built up with the first few games.

>tfw being up late and solving illuminati puzzles in AC2
I miss that spooky feeling of the unknown.

>>384406760
He was lead on AC1 and AC2, he wanted a trilogy. He would've ended things with "his" AC3. Brotherhood and onwards weren't supposed to happen. He was forced to work on Brotherhood for 6 months before finally leaving, he wasn't fired the first time.

>>384406760
>>384406994
Didn't Ubisoft also fuck over another game of his? Something Amsterdam?

>>384405964
You play video games.

Rebecca and Shaun showed up in Black Flag WORKING AT FUCKING ABSTERGO'S FRONT DESK AND STILL DIDN'T GET RECOGNIZED.

Something's happening but honestly I don't give two shits and ignored all of it.

Best thing to do with the modern story of AC is to get rid of it. Restart the whole fucking thing or let it die.

>>384406994
>>384406760
>>384407090
He moved to THQ after Ubi, and 3 years later, when THQ died, Ubi acquired their Montreal studio, and he was told to Fuck off.

https://www.polygon.com/2013/5/7/4308980/patrice-desilets-departs-ubisoft-a-second-time

>"Contrary to any statements made earlier today, this morning I was terminated by Ubisoft," Desilets told Polygon. "I was notified of this termination in person, handed a termination notice and was unceremoniously escorted out of the building by two guards without being able to say goodbye to my team or collect my personal belongings.

He was working on a game with THQ before it died 1666 something, but Ubi killed it with their acquisition, and held on to it. He recently got the rights to it back sometime last year.

>>384407090
After those 6 months of Brotherhood development, he left Ubi and joined THQ. He was working on Amsterdam 1666, basically a new kind of Ass Creed for the new generation. You were some sort of magic man with a cane walking around Amsterdam transforming into animals and whatnot. Basically Ass Creed with magic and no "historical accuracy" stuff to chain it down.

THQ fucking died and Ubisoft bought THQ Montreal, which is where Patrice was. They cancelled his game, THEN they fired him and after that Patrice and Ubisoft had a longlasting dispute over the owner rights of the game. It took years but the game belongs to Patrice again. He said he wanted to make it at some point, but right now he's working on Ancestors.

>>384403373
>remove any modern day aspects
>just have it about assassinating npcs in historically comfy settings

thats all anybody wants.

>>384407356
>>384407378
Fuck, that's some bad blood.

>>384407432
This so much.

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Anyone else think AssCreed 2 has one of the best video game endings ever? Minerva saying she's not talking to Ezio but to Desmond while looking directly into the camera. Fantastic twist.

>>384407520
It's exactly like the Kojima and Konami situation, but also worse. He didn't even have time to be with his newborn daughter because he was forced to work on Brotherhood.

>>384403373

Get rid of the animus shit.

>>384407607
I'm here with you pal. I loved the modern day, animus sci-fi mystery shit. Coupled with memories of our ancestors and a race that came before us warning us from some dangerous shit.

That was fucking cool. It's after AC2 that the plot turned to shit. First Civ should've never been a huge part of these games.

>>384407607
Ass Creed 2 is hands down the best assasins Creed. Everything afterwords was garbage.

>>384407216

Considering that Lucy was a triple agent it was kinda weird that Shaun & Co's faces were not known by at least the higher Abstergo guys.

>>384407763
>>384407607
It was cool, but it was stupid of them to keep it going when they had no clue what the original director wanted to do with it.

Should've just killed it after he left.

>>384407820
Brotherhood was good, and IMO, Revelations was decent. That ending in Masyaf really brings it up for me.

>>384403963
This.

Here's what's going to happen, though: Desmond gets resurrected, his dad dies after they lose/break the PoE used for it, He and Fem-Desmond team up to destroy the Templars once and for all.

That's over the course of 2 - 3 games. After that, they'll have Desmond's son playable - possibly forming a new Templar Order or joining an existing one, depending on if they get wiped out or not.

>>384407607
That and Ezio talking to Desmond were great. The rest was unremarkable though.

>>384407820
You're garbage.

>>384407607
had some good stuff
>sneaky tactics into the vatican
>'I AM THE PROPHET!'
>'GOD! IT'S GOD WHO DWELLS WITHIN!'
then whoops everything goes to shit
>FIST FIGHT WITH THE FUCKING POPE
>'HEH, RODRIGO, YOU DON'T DESERVE TO DIE, BE BETTER NEXT TIME OK?'
>'we wuz the first and shit desmond, the sun is gonna blow in the 2012 xd'

Cancelling it. I loved this franchise, but after AC3, the franchise died with Desmond. Now it's literally a clusterfuck of incompetent morons who have no idea what they are doing. It has lost all credibility it has had and is nothing but a bad joke at this point. Seriously play AC1-AC3. Then go play everything afterwords. The difference in writing and lore is insane.

>>384407945
Oh, and they delete Minerva from the cloud.

>>384407820
I agree. AC2 is the king. I also hold AC1 to a really high regard.

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>>384407607
they finished the game with a fucking fist fight with the pope
nothing can top that

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>>384407356
>>384407620
Well that genuinely sucks.

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>>384403373
Everything went to shit after brotherhood.

Black flag was awesome because of the piracy and shit.

They shit up their lore too much at this point and fucked all their character into corners.

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>>384407607

One of the hypest moments in gaming to be quite honest.
I was like "Fuuuuck" and couldn't wait for the next game.
While deep down I knew that whatever this was building up towards could never match my expectation, I had no idea how terrible it would get in AC3.

>That new Ubi pirate game doesn't have on-foot segments

Killed a lot of the excitement for me. And the connected world/forced multiplayer bullshit. That seamless transition between regular third-person control and ship controls was the best thing about AC4.

>>384408359
It was good. But you can almost literally hear marketing saying" i don't give a fuck about the story, stretch it out into more games."

>>384408291
Nothing can redeem Black Flag's ridiculous amount of tailing missions. Even the pirate shit had its issues, like ship boarding being an absolute clusterfuck - your crew often blocking your strikes against attacking enemies. Fuck off.

>>384408507
Well AC2 was pretty fucking long already. Although I think some of it was DLC but when I played it on ps3 it was already the complete package.

>>384408083
Yeah, AC3 killed the series for me. AC1 and AC2 were excellent, I mean it. With Brotherhood I was like "yeah this is great but not as great as AC2". Then Revelations happened, which was decent enough I guess, but lower than Brotherhood.

At that time I felt like something weird was going on with the franchise.

Then AC3 happened. What a fucking death blow. The AC games pre-AC3 are "different" to what he have post-AC3. I don't view them with the same eyes like back then. But I still play, just to see what they do and because I changed my entire view and expectations for this franchise. Should've never gotten so big.

>>384408452
>doesn't have on-foot segments
what the FUCK? are you serious? tell me you are joking

>>384408585
How? Two memories are DLC and I don't remember them ever releasing a complete version. Did you buy a digital version?

>>384408697
https://www.pcgamesn.com/skull-bones/skull-and-bones-on-foot

Ranking of games that broke my heart

1 MGSV
2 AC3
3 ME3

>>384408809
by "broke my heart" you mean "fucking disappointed me" right?

>>384408809
Same here, except with MGSV as I never played one.

AC3 made me want to quit gaming, I was so fucking destroyed by it. All the love I had for it since the first one and then they shit this piece of shit out.

The fact that AC3 AND ME3 happened in the same year didn't help. Prototype 2 as well. Hitman Absolution also released that year.

2012 was fucking awful, my god.

>>384408732
They released an "ezio trilogy" a while back.

>>384408768
what the fuck, man

>>384407216
>Something's happening but honestly I don't give two shits and ignored all of it.
an immortal guy somehow gets one of the ancient alien ghosts into the computers at not-ubisoft and tries to make her possess you then she explodes or something

>>384408585
if you don't have the DLC the game tells you so, it's fucking hilarious

>Rebecca: 'Hmmm, seems like this data is corrupted goyim...'
>Desmond: 'golly gee, what happened?'
>Rebecca:'It seems like this happened sometime in ezio's life or something... the DNA is actually labeled, because that's how science works, these memories are called Battle of Forti and The bonfire of vanities'
>Desmond:'Wow... it sure is hard to follow the Assassin's Creed™...'

>>384408546
Problem was how the tailing missions worked. It used to actually follow someone, pretending to be part of a crowd, hiding behind corners when the target looks ovee his shoulder.
AC4 gave you the tag power, and put guards along the way that detect you. Then tailing missions became about jumping on rooftops to stay inside a circle, and waiting for the damn mission to end.

>>384408978

I loved those game series. So it actually hurt.

>>384409057

2012 was a little end of the world after all.
AC3 didn't make me quit gaming but it made me quit the series for a long time, Syndicate was already out before I ever tried Black Flag.

>>384406760
So it was the originals guy's fault for that shit with that chick betraying the crew and Desmond killin her?

>>384408606
>simplified combat (easy counters, insta-kills)
>press R2 to freerun
>Aveline, Edward, Jacob, and even Evie remind me of Ezio too much
>no more background music when exploring
>

AC3 isn't that bad. I think IV is worse. Also, Syndicate is a sun-baked pile of shit.

>>384409063
>buying a "remaster" with multiplayer removed

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>>384409354
>he actually wanted the multiplayer part

>>384409275
bruh you literally listed some of the reasons why AC3 sucks so fucking much
Why would you remove background music for instance? That was one of the biggest cons for me.

>>384409275
forgot to add
>modern story goes full retard with AC III
Revelations's first-person puzzle shit was awful, too. It'd be slightly better if I didn't have to listen to Desmond's shitty backstory while playing it.

>>384409172
The worst thing about it was the French speaking and the French accents and just the French in general.

Such a pompous, disgusting culture that as an Englishman I literally cannot stand.

>>384409354
ezio trilogy on ps3/360 which was just a bundle of the ezio games with dlc.

>>384408452
cheap cashgrab from jewbisoft

>>384409573
Yeah, I meant to. Read the post I replied to.

I'm saying, even with those faults, AC3 is still better than some games after it.

>>384409354
>playing Assassin' s Creed for mulitplayer

>>384409063
don't buy that one
they changed some subtle things that will hugely impact your experience
The Ezio trilogy had certain filters and effects that made it what it was, the "remaster" removes all of that shit
it's not even 60 fps, it's still 30
I think they fucked with the climbing too

Get rid of it

>>384409659
Ah, ok. I can't agree with you though there man, IV is definitely better for me. Syndicate was just a really sad joke.

I wish they made Rogue the main game of 2014, with Unity pushed back a year. Syndicate shouldn't have been made in the first place.

>>384409573
That's just it AC was great but the protagonist was kinda boring and the missions while interesting, weren't very varied in gameplay AC2 took all the good shit and added even more good shit and more or less maintained it for brotherhood and Revelations.

AC3 took a step back and made the Mc somehow even worse than Altair which in itself an accomplishment in the art of fuck uppery. Only thing I liked about it was pirates, being able to climb trees/hide in brush and I kinda like the whole owning a homestead kinda. Reminded me of Montenegro but a bit too big.

It doesn't even seem like they are doing much with the modern stuff in Syndicate
Seemed like an after thought to me
What the hell is even the end game for the modern crap now without Desmond

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>Ubi shit on altair in brotherhood as revenge for Patrice Desilets leaving
it all makes sense now
1 was leaps and bounds above the other games in everything but gameplay, unfortunately

>>384410254
i thought it had the ballsiest setting for sure

even edgy jap shit like smt that's ostensibly insulated from angry zealots through skirting the AAA mainstream shies from anything islam

How did we go from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccJIOyXKO90
To this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trBbTy5cjMw
How can a game set in Victorian London be this fucking forgettable? Not even the soundtrack stands out.

>>384409974
>I wish they made Rogue the main game of 2014, with Unity pushed back a year. Syndicate shouldn't have been made in the first place
Absolutely.

Rogue gets no attention, despite being a very fun game with a unique story (within the series). Unity could've definitely used some work on its story, not to mention the bugs.

Syndicate's grappling hook/zipline should be proof enough that London is a shit setting for AC. The awful combat, story, and SJW pandering didn't help. The Jack the Ripper DLC managed to be even worse in some ways.

>>384403373
I would have had the world end in Brotherhood or Revelations, then a post apocalyptic game for 3 starring Desmond as a full fledged Assassin

>>384410254
and voice acting tbqh, the lines are good but the delivery usually isn't

>>384410142
They're going to resurrect him with the Piece of Eden they get from Origins. Even if they didn't, there's a new character they introduced that's basically female Desmond.

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>Make a cool game about memories and shit
>It's stupidly repetitive due to time constraints but people like it
>Leave ending open for a sequel
>Plan to make a nice trilogy
>People liked it a little too much
>Jewbisoft tells the team to forget the trilogy and make it an ongoing series
>Story is stretched out to cover more games
>Story is stretched out so thin that it's pointless to try to keep it going
>Kill Desmond and let the original story finally die
>Games are just a fucking shitshow with poorly written stories barely unfolding in each game
Fucking Ubisoft. Ruined our fucking vision. I'm still mad.

Assassin's Creed's plot CANNOT, I'm telling you, CANNOT be fixed. It's impossible.

They had something genuinenly fucking awesome in the works, you can see that in AC1 and AC2. Ubi saw the cashcow opportunity and capitlized on it, so the planned plot had to get scrapped and they started making shit up along the way.

Of fucking course it turns into a irredeemable, convuluted giant fucking mess.

Either kill the series or hard-reboot it. It is not salvagable.

>>384410537
i didn't even like desmond, everyman bland as shit, but it's his status as a total nothing that means they could have flipped him into an interesting character whenever they wanted

wish the bleeding effect had amounted to more brain problems and development for him than some trippy sequences and some borderline superpowers

>>384410747
Fuck man they could have had him start spazzing out and acting like Altair and Ezio during segments of the game but the bleeding effect amounted to a slight headache

>>384410446
Nah, man Syndicate's actually the first time the AC games had a good OST in ages. Austin Wintory is the fucking shit.

The implementation, directing, and mixing was still ass, but the music itself was solid.

>Its been several games since 3 and Juno still hasn't done anything

>>384408210
Even better, if you want to hear the full dialog, you have to hold back, otherwise you finish the fight too quickly. I spent the better part of that fight running around in circles while Borgia lectured me and desperately tried to catch his fat ass up.

>>384407927
Their problem was, it was supposed to be trilogy.

But then they decided to extend the franchise because money, and the story hasn't made sense since.

>>384410863
it wasn't enough that desmond was a blank slate for the player to project onto, he had to be fucking teflon, completely immune to the emotional pains and development of the whole other lifetimes he experienced

>>384410976
That's because the devs have no fucking idea how to get out of this mess.

I was so fucking shocked when I saw her in Black Flag. Like I remembered how cool AC1 was from a lore standpoint and how it was so interesting, and now after a dozen games some ayy lmao bitch is trapped inside Internet Explorer and threatens to rule the world mwhahaha.

Fuck you man.

>>384403547

The Assassins have begun to rebuild and take the fight to the Templars again

The Templars are still looking for pieces of Eden as well as the DNA of Sages (People with high quantities of DNA from those of the First Civilization) to take over the world as usual

Juno is somehow in the Matrix and now has a cult following her and is using the Assassins and Templars to find more pieces of Eden to build herself a new body and bring about the singularity or something idk its never really explained

So basically its still the same plot since one only its barely focused on now and will never be resolved

Did anyone else hate the ending of brotherhood with the stuff in the Modern world. That entire scene felt so off, I couldn't even understand.

>>384411456
That's because Brotherhood was the first game that was part of the "holy fuck we need to make a bazillion games but we don't know where to take the story" problem.

AC3 should've just had Desmond releasing Minerva. She shows up on every television/computer/phone and sets up for a full length modern AC game.

It could've even been a WD/AC crossover, with Blume being to blame for the ridiculous amount of surveillance Minerva would have access to. Maybe even have Digital Trips and a very brief Aiden cameo.

I actually liked the modern day stuff in Black Flag and Rogue

It was a good kind of meta and I thought it was cool hacking into Abstergo computers and finding out all kinds of secrets

>>384411643
Could've done without the slow-ass walking.

>certain EU materials imply long lasting emotional and psychosexual effects of the animus
>things like feelings for long dead ancestors and being sexually attracted to people an ancestor of the opposite sex was attracted to
>Desmond is totally immune to any and all side effects except for the ones that make him cooler/advance the plot

Made me suicidal desu

>>384411601
It wasn't still a good game. It's a shame though it was that they had to start fucking up the mainline story. But I honestly loved the idea of living out Ezio's life. From baby to youth to adult and even old age. I would've Been ok with his triology being a series on his own.

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>>384410426
>smt
but it got several demons based on Islam

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>>384411618
/v/ is reaching unexpected levels of autism

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AC has been on its last legs since Unity's disastrous launch. They attempt to revive the series with Origins.

You think they can do it?

>>384411923
shies from it, doesn't avoid it completely. islam doesn't get much rep

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>>384403373

Reboot the whole series back to the Garden of Eden. Show the process of humanity being developed and working with their creators to build a utopian world. Then it goes into that whole typical story about a few humans wanting to venture off into the world and live away from their creators. Then the cataclysm hits and the people who left are the only ones who survive.

From there, just keep telling the story going forward. Maybe the next game take place around 45,000 BC where the escaped humans like in a highly advanced society (aka Atlantis), but eventually do something to screw themselves. History repeats and a small band of humans leave Atlantis, going and populating other parts of the world. Then those people multiply and soon overtake Atlantis. Tie some psychobabble to how the Assassins are the survivors of Atlantis and the ancient progenorator to the Templars are the exiled humans who overthrew Atlantis.

Then the next game takes place maybe around 15,000 BC where humanity has once again become advanced, but fucks themselves over. These people built stuff like the Pyramids in Egypt and giant cities in India/Khmer/China region. The games developers could create a completely unique period of history that doesn't exist in our records, making a game that is actually unique. But of course, this civilization fucks itself over like the previous ones.

Then the next game takes place around 5500 BC in Egypt/Mesopotamia. Then the next takes place in 2000 BC in China. Then the next takes place in 500 BC in Troy/Rome. Etc. etc.

The point is, stop making stupid games set in 1700s or modern times. Assassins Creed should be about the lesser used periods in history. Ancient history.

>>384412159
Idk. I wonder what they're trying to settle on. Do they go back to being story focus but making sure to not make it as forgettable in parts of it like with AC or do they pull AC2 and really pull out some crazy shit like something related to the Egyptian Gods being real (just that they're actually not gods, but Furst civilization folk)

>>384412209
mostly because many beings appear both in Islam and Christianity - and also Judaism
but yeah its not the same level as the setting of AC1

>>384412393
>AC3, AC4, Rogue, Unity, Syndicate
5 fucking games set in the 18th/19th century. Glad that the next one is in Ancient Egypt. Finally.

well the series has to be more or less stuck in the past unless they completely change the game play for a modern setting
the fuck would parkouring, climbing, melee weapons do in the modern world?
just turn it into watch dogs?

>>384409272

Lucy being a traitor was because Kristen Bell wanted more money since she was only signed on for 3 games. They didn't tell her about the character death to get around it. It's why her death was unvoiced.

>>384412745
The real problem is, aside from the AC4 interlude, they were pretty committed to the games moving later and later in history from the previous ones. Origins is the first since AC4 to go back relative to the previous game and only the second to do so overall.

>>384411918
it was a good game. pretty much asscreed 2 except you renovated rome over the course of the game instead of your little keep right at the start

>>384412904
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy shit. What's way to go.

>>384412904
Source? That's incredible.

>>384411203

>some ayy lmao bitch is trapped inside Internet Explorer and threatens to rule the world mwhahaha.
kek
Desmond's mind is actually trapped there too. I bet he will come back in AC20 in a cute girl's body.

>>384413092

Going forward is a great idea. But they jumped way too far forward. They skipped over hundreds of years of history that would have been far more interesting than Colonial America or the French Revolution. It's like the staff just has a boner for that time period. And eventually, if you keep jumping 200-400 years at a time, you're gonna hit the modern day. So pretty much all AC can do now is a reboot.

>>384403547
shitposting

>>384408452
Skull & Bones, back when it was under an other name, was supposed to have on land segments where you explore the New World while facing hostile natives who fight alongside the wildlife to ala Avatar. Looks like they cut that completely.

Looks like they recycled as much as they can from ACIV: Black Flags to make a generic pirate game with sea monsters.

>>384413667
How does that even fucking work. Why is his mind trapped with her?

>>384409579
French Canadian*

French Canadians are subhumans so dire that not even the French like them.

>>384413847

No fuckng clue, how did that button he pressed that grilled his body work at all?
The place they are trapped in is The Grey, it's where you play Desmond's Journey in ACR. Which was terrible.

>>384413965
god fucking damnit hahaha this game is a joke
I remember someone saying Subject 16 is ALSO in there, despite being deleted in Revelations.

What a clusterfuck.

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>>384408080
Are you saying a fistfight with the pope is a bad thing? Because there needs to be more pope combat games.

>>384413847
desmond's incredible blandness means she'll fall in love with him as per the rules of bad anime, and that will save the world

>>384413847
Desmond's soul slumbers at the ends of the world--that of a young man who devoted himself to becoming a seal...That soul is risking itself to prevent mankind, who has lost the joy of living, from calling down ultimate destruction.

but really i don't fucking know

>>384412135
Autism is good in this case.

>>384412159
>eagle drone
>homing arrows
>movement looks the same as Unity and Syndicate
>gathering loot animation is garbage
>equipment is reminiscent of a cheap mmo
Looks fucking terrible.

>>384414404
You forgot
>level up system
Why?

>>384409272
No, that's Ubi's fault. Brotherhood was never meant to exist.

>>384413849
Neither do us English Canadians. Also they call themselves "québécois" and refuse to be called Canadians. Fuckers think they're actually French living in France or something. Fuck off

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>>384405535
>The antagonist organization said fuck it and turned into Ubisoft.

Sounds about right.

>>384414490
That shit was in Syndicate, too. It's so dumb.

>>384414536
I really only like Brotherhood for its multiplayer, anyway.

>>384414575
Pretty sure there was a lore tidbit in Black Flag that said Ubisoft was bought by Abstergo.

>>384414404
You forgot level system for weapon. Shit, I wouldn't be surprise if this game has prefixes and/or suffixes modifiers as well.

>>384414887
no

>>384412135
The crossover shit? They already have the groundwork for it. AC IV has an email in the modern segment from Blume to Abstergo, and WD has a criminal convoy mission with the CEO of Abstergo Entertainment (the dude with glasses in IV). His ctOS profile says "Wanted by the Brotherhood".

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>>384414983
My bad, they were just partners.

>>384415027
Nigger it's just an easter egg. Ubisoft said that they don't have any plans for that shit and that a "Ubisoft universe" doesn't exist.

Hell, there are Abstergo labs in Far Cry 3 or something. It's all just epik references.

>Ending of ACII
>The bitch looks straight at you, the player, when talking about how important your role is in all that is transpiring
>Think it's real cool that they are breaking the fourth wall like that, and making the story really meta in the process
>Then she mentions Desmond, and you realize she was talking to him

Never has an erection been achieved and lost so quickly.

>>384415140
OR they just backpedaled after the general consensus turned negative.

>>384415227
I mean, how did you even come to that conclusion. You are playing as Desmond after all, of course she's gonna look at "him", while looking at you.

>>384415294
why though it was pretty cool

>>384415134
>the beginning of Unity has that game select screen with previous AC games from a skewed Templar perspective
>you can't preview/watch a trailer for them

Liberation is great. Why didn't they keep the social stealth mechanics?

Assassin's Creed went to shit. Anything after Brotherhood just wasn't worth bothering with.

4 was fun, but not even for it's AC shit. It was a better more enjoyable pirate sim than an AC game.

>>384415671
Who knows exactly why Ubishit does anything.

>>384415785
see
>>384408546

>>384415494
Because she made eye contact with the camera during that whole scene, and she was the only character on screen during it. She literally switches from talking to him to look straight at the camera.

https://youtu.be/jpJ0lvC_ka4?t=118

>>384415942
Yeah I know but Desmond is in the Animus, not you.

>>384416215
Which is why it doesn't make sense for her to look at the camera instead of Ezio, through whose eyes Desmond sees.

>>384416215
Not him, but trying to make Desmond his own character/personality was a huge mistake. He should've just been an avatar for the player.

>>384416306
>through whose eyes Desmond sees
I don't think that's how it works. Desmond sees the the past essentialy the same way you do. You are essentially Desmond. You see the world from a third-person view, with the Animus UI and shit.

>>384412393

This actually sounds kind of good. Which means it'll never happen.

>>384411740
But that's explicitly addressed by the plot of Revelations. He WAS slowly going insane through constant use of the Animus, but Clay solved it via... magic shenanigans while Desmond was in his animus coma. That's why he's fine again in 3.

All the other Animuses (Animii?) in use from 3 onwards, the ones being used by Abstergo researchers, are more advanced ones that have mostly ironed out that kink. Also they're not delving into their own genetic memory they're watching someone else's so it's not as much of an issue.

>>384416501
That doesn't make sense considering how he had somehow learned how to fight while using the Animus, which would indicate that it is more like a VR game in which he becomes the person the memories belong to. You don't pick up fighting skills just by looking at someone fight.

>>384416930
Nothing fucking makes sense, man. Remember in Revelations when Ezio looked at Desmond? You could see both of them.

Best not to think about the camera so much.

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>>384410736

It would have been so easy to just resolve the precursors plot with whatever method they had originally planned, then have any new games use the same framing device that the current ones are using; abstergo using mass produced animus machines and blood samples to try to track shit down and get an edge over the assassins again. Maybe have some simple conspiratorial shit going on in the present day plot, like Black Flag.

Haven't played unity or syndicate so I have no idea what the present day plot or character is in either of those.

>>384414565
it still amuses me that english canadians have this meme reputation as being excessively friendly and polite while french canadians are extremely arrogant and obnoxious

>>384417262
>present day plot or character
Neither Unity nor Syndicate have them

>>384416930
The manual makes reference to the animus characters being controlled with video game controllers, so it's implied that when in the past you're literally seeing what Desmond sees and what he does.

As for the "learning skills" thing... yeah, never really made sense even at its base level to me. He's either CONTROLLING the ancestor's memories, in which case Altair or Ezio should be exactly as skilled as Desmond is, because how can Desmond make them do something he can't, or he's just along for the ride in their memories, in which case the game should just be a movie.

>>384408217
Nani legit molded my preferences in women.

>>384417576
They explain that with the Bleeding Effect. Canonwise, Desmond probably controlled both of em perfectly or something and through the BE the got the skills.

>>384417576
>As for the "learning skills" thing... yeah, never really made sense even at its base level to me. He's either CONTROLLING the ancestor's memories, in which case Altair or Ezio should be exactly as skilled as Desmond is, because how can Desmond make them do something he can't, or he's just along for the ride in their memories, in which case the game should just be a movie.
He's controlling them manually. There's a reason the characters in the games develop gradually in terms of proficiency. Desmond learns as they learn. He only has access to the same level of ability they have.

>>384417191
Yeah, but they only think short term, which is really just shooting themselves in the foot.

>>384408359
I think it was SO good, that not even Ubisoft knew where to go with it.

HENCE the AC:R mess and AC3 which was just, I don't even fucking know.

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>>384410254
I absolutely fucking loved the long monologues when killing the Templars in AC1.

You could literally watch an entire conspiracy unravel before your eyes, and then shit hit the fan.

>>384418416
They absolutely knew, it was supposed to be a trilogy. The original was plot was scrapped in order to make hundreds of games. That's why starting with Brotherhood the MD goes weird places.

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>>384406994
>tfw we will never experience assassin's creed how it meant to be
i hate ubisoft so much for ruining for what could've been one of the best gaming trilogies

>>384418621
I felt that pain years ago, nowadays I just don't care anymore. I just play for shits n giggles while visiting cool places in history.

I loved asscreed 2 but I was bored stiff by all the modern-day lab bits. I want to be an assassin in renaissance italy, not this generic american guy. Why oh why did they need that wrapper plot? Why couldn't it just tell the tale of the historical assassins without switching back and forth?

>>384412159
>>384414404
>>384414490
>>384414931
Origins is going to flop so hard.

>>384419403
Because they wanted that fourth wall framing element of the HUD and timeskips being something an in-universe viewer was seeing as well as the player.

>>384418795
I wish i could, i enjoy the first few hours of Brotherhood but halfway through it felt dull and soulless, Patrice's departure was clear as day.
Revelations was painfully mediocre from start to finish.
AC3 sucked and couldn't get into Black Flag and this is where i dropped the series.
oh well..

>>384419414
From all the E3 games, Origins sits on the #2 spot of the amount of youtube clicks. I don't think it's gonna flop really, it's Ass Creed after all and the last one was 2 years ago.

>>384419414
I doubt it. Syndicate sold well, despite the negative buzz made by Unity. Normies will buy anything.

>>384419912
The last one was also putrid shit. This looks worse. People are only interested because of the setting.

>>384419518
Maybe they wanted it, but I don't think they needed it, and I definitely don't think it was worth it.
>HUD
Make it a little plainer, lose the sci-fi swishes, and it would be just fine.
>timeskips
Climactic moment, fade to black, "xx years later". Done. Film has done it this way forever and it works very well. No need for "you can skip ahead because actually you're a future time traveller etc"

>>384403373
By fucking getting to the magic people invasion of Earth. Fucking get on with it.

>>384403373
I would honestly just play these games for stealth and meticulously recreated historical settings. I don't give a shit about the overarching plot

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>year of our Lord 2017 and STILL no game set in ancient China or feudal Japan

It's like Ubisoft hates fucking money

>>384405535
How retarded are you, they're using the "video games" to find pieces and secrets and then monetizing the past. The whole point of black flag was to find that blood oracle thing, and make a cunt load of money doing it

JUST LITERALLY GIVE ME A FEUDAL JAPAN ASSASSINS CREED UBISOFT

WHY DO YOU HATE MONEY

>>384420335
I agree, but that's how it is.

>>384420807
But Anon-kun, the game wouldn't be diverse enough. No blacks, no natives, no Arabs, just privileged Asians.

I don't get the hate for AC3
I mean sure Connor was garbage, but it was satisfying to see him being fucked over by Haytham even in death.
Haytham was right and all Connor's actions were vain as fuck.
Heck even Connor's ending made him a lonely miserable man in the hell that it was good enough for me to say that he deserved it.

>>384420542
>>384420807
>man these retards really must hate money
>well I guess the series is still going strong and popular
>once it gets unpopular and doesn't sell well it will need a revival, THAT's when they'll do Feudal Japan, it's their trumpcard!
>fast forward to 2014/2015
>it fucking happens, series is on its deathbed
>ANCIENT EGYPT OUT OF NOWHERE

I was so fucking surprised, what the FUCK? I mean I'm cool with it, I actually like the idea of having AC go there but I really thought they'd do Feudal Japan instead.

>>384421231
They could have the portuguese be involved with the story. Maybe even a half Portuguese Half Japanese Assassin kind of similar to Connor. Is that Diverse?

>>384421471
That's actually a really good idea

>you will never be the first foreigners entering Japan and getting all that sweet Asian pussy all to yourself

>>384421248
French canadians hate asians and love blacks. We'll get AC: nigeria or zimbabwe before ac japan.

>>384403373
Assassins creed died when they got rid of the short blade. Only played up to black flag, did they ever bring it back?

>>384403373
Make it like AC1 and introduce grey morality again.

>>384420807
this
>all that parkour
>combat with katana and going pshhhh nothing personal on everyone
shit would be a weeb money maker

>>384421664
It just really boggles my mind. Here we are, 10 years later after AC1's launch and we still haven't gotten Feudal Japan. People were hyped as shit after seeing these blood paintings of Japanese castles n shit.

Fuck Ubisoft, seriously.

>>384421581
just play Nioh

>>384421664
>French Canadians hate Asians
Isn't that more of a western Canada thing? As a french frog, I've never seen much Asian bashing, besides hating on rich foreign Chinese businessmen who buy our farmland for Chinese use only.

>>384421989
We dont hate them out west, we've gotten used to them. Also most asian chicks go through a faze where they fuck lots of white dudes to piss off their parents, so thats cool.

>>384421664

>French canadians hate asians and love blacks.
No, they're just jumping on the diversity bandwagon like every American studio. And "diversity" right now means "all groups except Asians". Because Asians don't go rioting in the street and organize hate groups to get their way.

>>384421959
It really is dumb. Im sure it would do allot to increase the series popularity in japan as well.

>>384421908
Jesus, just thinking about it gives me some sort of video game equivalent erotic ecstasy.

>>384421908
And then a god damn dragon shows up!

>>384422413
I read in an article that apparently Japanese don't want it. They essentially said that because Ubisoft isn't a Japanese company they wouldn't understand how to make the game right or some shit. Wish I could find that article

fucking xenophobes

>>384422565
why would that stop ubisoft from making a global game

fucking ubisoft even did a naruto game at some point

>>384422261
Damn. I need to visit Japan before I get too much older

>>384421908
And Samurai stories or especially if anything that involves honorable duels with cherry blossoms on the background grounds for some great scenes

>>384421959
They could even do something interesting and have us play as an actual historical since Hattori Hanzo has been established as an Assassin in canon.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Hattori_Hanz%C5%8D

>>384422685
*Actual Historical Figure

>>384422565
that doesn't even make sense, tons of games out there that have japan as a setting
also out of all of them, AC would be the closest to it being historically accurate

>>384421908

>shit would be a weeb money maker
Except it wouldn't because 'weebs' already have a million games made in Japan that do that. The AC team would probably do it poorly, turning it into some identity politics platform to speak out against how Bushido is bad and superior western culture saved Japan.

Hate to link to kotaku but I found the article

>>384423181
Then it was an article full of horseshit that you parroted like a mindless idiot.

>>384423094
it'd be the purest weaboo in the original sense of the word game in a long time if it's just an AC game in japan

like not even just underage pantyquest, just straight-up glorification of jap shit like samurai

>>384423181
shit forgot the fucking link, disregard that, I suck cocks

http://kotaku.com/5897365/japan-doesnt-really-want-an-assassins-creed-either

>>384422565
>Japaneses hate cultural appropriation
Weren't they supposed to be the most ''based'' people on earth? What a bunch of pussies.

>>384423281
that's a pointless article and represents the opinions of like 5 people or something, it shouldn't be taken serious at all
just like you'd expect from fucking Kotaku
Also why do they think that Ubisoft would make the character a ninja? No one is forcing them to do that.

>Foreigners don't even like ninjas that much.
get the fuck outta here

>>384423626
And there's a 99% chance the people they asked were Canadian/American born Japanese.

>>384423302
From what I've been told, they like it when other people represent there culture in media. If they don't then that's kind of hypocritical since a lot of popular manga are based on Western/European settings and mythology.

Of course, I'm not saying they're all like this but on the far extreme of the political spectrum you have these "based" people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pE2ms1P56I

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>>384409750
ITT: People that never actually played AC multiplayer

It was Mass Effect 3 tier of "surprisingly fantastic".

>>384423962
I did and it was nothing groundbreaking or special. Most people just never gave a shit, AC is a singleplayer game first and foremost. I always felt that shit was tacked on.

>>384423962
netting 1000+ pts in Brohood was my highlight of the series

>>384403373
Reboot or just make some shit new. weren't the original writers going to make their own assassin game aswell as the buy my game woman

>>384412832
How about more actual stealth play in order to avoid getting shot? You know, these are supposed to be stealth games.

>Become Jesus 2.0
>Or die and let your rag tag gang of people that kidnapped you incompetently continue their quest of finding random people to use as their own tools

Such a stupid fucking ending

>>384421231
Just do what Nioh did and throw Yasuke in there for shits and giggles.

>>384403373
Dump the story. PvP in asscreed is the only fun thing about the series.

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>>384403373
ITT: UBisoft writers doing research on how they can save their shit franchise

idk man this shti would ahve wroked better without all the ghosts and shnit lpl just lemme kill some dudes in 1499 l

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>play Unity and Syndicate
>try not upgrading

pretty fun desu, you can't just punch everything to death

Unity's Jack the Ripper Segments was kinda innovative and great
sucks that you focus on the boring main protags rather than being JACK