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Time for the daily dose
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>>384368279
Surprising literally nobody, Baldilin and Diccolo join the roster.
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>>384368279
There you go
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DB
>Kid Goku (with GT reskin)
>Roshi
>King Piccolo (Possible Reskin)
>Tao

Z
>Adult Goku
>Piccolo
>Teen Gohan
>Vegeta
>Buu
>Freeza
>Cell
>M. Trunks
>Krillin
>18 (With a possible 17 Reskin, if not his own slot)
>Tenshinhan
>Yamcha
>Gotenks
>Mr Satan

GT
>Pan
>Omega Shenron

Super
>Hit
>Cabba
>Beerus (Unlikely but possible Champa reskin)
>Jiren
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>>384369648
>Unlikely but possible Champa reskin
would't that fuck with the hitboxs?
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>>384369839
That's why I thought it'd be unlikely, but within the realm of possibility.
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>>384368279
nice
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>>384369648
Technically Beerus is a Z character.
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>>384369913
Anything other than recolors is extremely difficult to do with how ArcSys is animating the game.
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>>384368279
Which point of the pentagon is which stat?
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>>384370381
From earlier thread
>Piccolo
>Power: 3
>Speed: 2
>Reach: 4
>Technique: 4
<Energy: 3
>Piccolo has technical skills such as extending his arms to grasp his opponent and charge techniques. He has a variety of methods to break the opponent’s guard. He can fire beams at super high speeds. By long-pressing the button, he can charge up for a stronger attack. He also has a technique that fires a Ki blast to deal great damage. When connecting from a combo, it will deal even greater damage.

>Krillin
>Power: 2
>Speed: 3
>Reach: 1
>Technique: 4
>Energy: 4
>Krillin has low power and reach, but can use a variety of techniques. He can even use Kamehameha, meaning fighting from a distance should not be a problem. He can use skills to confuse the enemy such as the “Afterimage Technique,” which leaves behind an image of Krillin before turning into an attack. He can also use “Destructo Disc,” which is impossible to guard against. After firing Ki blasts, Krillin can alter their trajectory and have them explode in the sky to shoot out multiple Ki blasts.


>Players will be able to control chibi characters in online mode, similar to the online system in the Guilty Gear Xrd series, those chibi characters will be able to battle against each other.
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>>384369648
I guess mine as the realistic way possible, not including who's already confirmed.
>Kid Goku
>Roshi/Jackie Chun Alternative Skin
>Tenshinhan
>Yamcha (Complete with Death Post)
>King Piccolo
>16
>18/17 Alternative Skin
>Videl
>Ultimate Gohan
>Gotenks
>Kid Buu
>Beerus
>Whis
>Hit
>Frost Final Form
>Cabba
>Caulifla
>Goku Black with Merged Zamasu Transformation
>Jiren
>Legendary Super Saiyan Kale
>Legendary Super Saiyan Broly
>Bardock as the very last character to unlock
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>>384368279
>Piccolo's stats add up to 16
>Krillins add up to 14

Nice balance.

>>384370381
Clockwise, power speed reach technique energy.
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Both look really interesting.

Special Beam Cannon is a Lvl 1 that can be charged, which will make it difficult to use. Calling in an assist to distract the opponent will probably be the best strategy, which is exactly how it worked in the series. That alone makes me wish they'd make a base-form Goku clone who had a full-nelson as his assist move.

Krillin looks dope as well. I love that Afterimage is part of his moveset, and him being a weaker guy with awesome attacks is straight out of the series.

I hope this puts to rest the panic over weaker characters not being practical. I want both of these guys on my time. Very nice of devs to put out a stat system to compare characters. Makes me wonder what the stats of the other seven characters are.
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>Turillin

Who the fuck plays as bald manlet?
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>>384368279

It's always weird how in fighting games Picollo uses his stretchy arms for attacks but in the anime and manga he barely,if ever uses them to attack like that.

In fact I think the stretch arm was a Slug thing.
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>>384368279
Oh fuck yes. Krillin best Kuririn.
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Daily reminder that Krillin won at life.
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>>384370627
>Roshi/Jackie Chun Alternative Skin?

Why? They both know an energy wave attack and look sort of similar, but they are completely different people.
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>>384370627
Fuck I forgot about my main man Mr. Satan as a Lethal Joke Character similar to Dan Hibiki.
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>>384368279
Oh yeah my boy Big Green.
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>>384370759

He used them during his fight with Goku.That's pretty much it.
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>>384370883
I'm surprised that 18 allowed Marron to stay with Goten and Trunks all alone on 17's island, is it implying that she has the potential to just as strong as her mom and dad?
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>>384369648
I only want to see Mr. Satan in this game if he is handled like a Dan. Actually worse than Dan. A character that can only win when a much better player is messing around with a me.
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>>384370619
>Stretchy arms confirmed
YES

I'm a little concerned about the physically weaker character though. How much weaker can they be when health bars in this game are so huge?
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>>384368279
18fags temporarily btfo
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What areas do you want to see as stages for DBFZ? My vote goes towards pic related.
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>>384369648
>no Majin Vegeta as dlc

I want it. And with fireworks special from Namek saga

>Jiren
Yeah, standing still character is something i am really looking forward when Kid Bu,16, Ginyu, Reccome,Nappa, Janemba, Dabura, Teen ChiChi, Videl exist
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>>384370752
If they would just train the man and give him Kaio-ken and Spirit Bomb he could use both to buff up his Ki numbers They never focus on him enough, or anyone outside Goku really. The way they tell stories in Super is to focus on one thing at a time and never run concurrent storylines. As a result things feel like either "main storyline" or "filler slice of life story arc" even when they're doing important character development work like with the short build up to the ToP.
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>>384371057
fighting games health vary usually around 120% to 80% (with someone like Goku being the 100% guy), sometimes there are more extreme examples but they're very specific

>>384369516
does anyone have one of those Sm4sh mockups for Piccolo joining the fight? (like, The doctor is IN, or something)
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>>384368279
already announcing me characters? damn dude
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>>384371196
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>>384371196

The Cell Games arena was shown in the reveal trailer.

The stages we know so far are:

- Namek
- Tenkaichi Budokai arena
- Cell Games arena
- Rocky wasteland
- Some random moon(?)
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>>384371196
other world from Fusion Reborn is a cool stage i guess
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>>384371752
the space stage is the Dark Planet from the Hatchjyak(or whatever) OVA
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If I could I would rock fusion team.

Gogeta
Vegito
Gotenks
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>>384371196
they better have this stage
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>>384371196
Roshi's island.
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>>384369648
Delete Cabba and possibly Jiren since he hasn't done anything yet.
I'd add Yajirobe to the list.
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>tfw the soundtrack will never be as good as the Budokai 3 ripoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E6agbNqwiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCTt7OwPsIw
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>>384368279
Oh hey it's that one move that always seems to be Krillins signature attack in games even though he only used it once against Saibamen of all things and never used it again.
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>>384370619
>Krillin can even use kamehameha

Kek. Like that something special. Many characters do that, even Tenshinhan and fat Buu know that
At least aftermirage is in the game, but i still want Kid Goku with that.

I am happy that huge wave Piccolo used against Imperfect Cell is in the game

>>384371196
That's an obvious one, like Hyperbolic time chamber will be, or Planet of the Kais, or Capsule Corporation, or space one.

What I want, Baba's place, RR based one, Grandpa Gohan house, that place where they fought Janemba, Kami's place, inside Super Buu.
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>>384369648
Tenshinhan, yamcha and krillin are dragon ball characters not Z
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>>384371034

Think of it this way, both of them know firsthand how strong she is, if she comes back and finds one of her scrunchies missing they are fucking DEAD.
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Give me one good reason why she shouldn't be in the game.

You can't.
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>>384371948
>not rocking Piccolo, Cell and Buu for fusion characters
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>>384372265
bad design, poorly written, just an overall bland character.
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>>384371139
not sure when in the coming days i will recover
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>>384372051
>Just like Namek the stage can be destroyed using super.
>Rest of the fight is in Snake Way with King Kai in the background looking pissed.
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>>384372245
Based on attacks and design, they're Z. Similar to how Goku is from Z since he doesn't go God.
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>>384371948
Don't forget Tutz
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>>384369648
>overused baseball filler episode
dragon ball is dead
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>>384372265
She should be in the game, just so I can punch her stupid fucking face.
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>>384372051
Will it have no "corner" to get pinned in?
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>>384368279

So I'm guessing that if Krillin has a 4 in a category, then the scale goes up to like a million right?
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>>384372423
>insulting the one good episode of Super
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>>384372265
She's literally nothing, Arcsys has no moveset to mirror.
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>>384368279
Can anyone translate what the vertices of the pentagons say?
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>>384372507
Krillin has always been good at learning techniques, hence the 4. Sadly he does't usually have enough power to make them work.
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>>384372265
She has no moveset yet. The first six guys shown have been iconic and nostalgia inducing just from their attack animations. She has N O T H I N G like that, yet.
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>>384372556
Nevermind I'm retarded >>384370619
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HAHAHA GET FUCKED ANTI-KRILLIN FAG FROM A COUPLE DAYS AGO
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>>384371921

Damn really? That's a weird choice.
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>>384372265
>another SS2 saiyan
>no moveset, except for YAYAYAYAYAYA and a huge ki-blast

Just because she is a female? She needs to wait and get a more unique set.
For females 18, Videl and Chichi would be better options

And for saiyans, there are plenty options before any of the female saiyans. Like Kid Goku, Goten, kid Trunks, Bardock, F.Gohan, Majin Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan, Gotenks, Vegito or Gogeta, SSB for Goku and Vegeta, SSJ4 versions, Broly. Shit never ends in saiyans
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>>384369648
Just give me Tarble & I'm set.
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>>384371662

This better be an alt costume, I swear to christ
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>>384370883
This bald manlet scored a hot android waifu and put a baby in her robopussy, what's your excuse?
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>>384372897

kys krillcuck
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>>384372996
Fuck you, have chinese bootleg instead.
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I'm still mad about what happened to Krillin in Super
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>>384373086
>Posting Adult Gohan
Holy fuck
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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The game is shaping up to be pretty good. Only downside right now is lack of waifus, which I guess I'll have to live with.
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>>384373085
He is exceptional at something, I am not.
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>>384373235
Piccolo is best waifu.
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>>384373185
Gohan is literally the most important fighter in the entire DB franchise.
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>>384369648

Better idea, no GT & Super characters.
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>>384373235
>>384372265

>my face when Launch is announced before brusselsprouts

Make it happen
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>>384373143
omg that's what he is. for the whole concept of siayan you buy now
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>>384373086
heh....so we meet again, Gohanfag.
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>>384373235
>lack of waifus
>downside
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>>384373352
Too bad he jobs as hard as Vegeta
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>>384373086
Aw, it's cute, it thinks adding "cuck" at the end of a word is an insult.
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>>384368279
but will it have best husbando?
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>>384373352

Krillin actually is.
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>>384372265
she's a generic super saiyan with no interesting, unique moves
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>>384373505
Objectively wrong.
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Gohanfags and and krillcucks(?), is that what we're going with krillcucks? ookay, and krillcucks shouldn't ever fight. Where is this animosity coming from?
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>>384373391
Better idea, characters from both
Botamo(NO DAMAGE ALLOWED) and Papayaman
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>>384373670
>trying to force your meme
Please.
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>>384373403
Let's be real here. 18 is basically guaranteed to get in, but the only other girl that has a chance of being the base roster is Videl a low chance at that. The 2 saiyan girls from super will most likely be DLC.
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>>384373670
Dragon Ball threads are like console war wojaks on crack. No one actually cares for what they're shitposting about.
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>>384372417
Majin satan needs to be canon
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>>384373659
>Gohan spends his time studying like a fucking Melvin instead of training
>Can barely go SS1, and jobs left and right in Buu saga
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>>384373641
>That hub world with what I assume are the different stages
Neat.
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>>384373670
From /a/ where there is an eternal war between Gohanfags and Cauliniggers
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>>384373641
>Chibi lobbies

YES BASED
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>>384372265
Because she's gonna be a villain of this one minor episode set and then disappear forever
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>>384372265
Make way for the new hotness
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>>384373817
>Vegeta spends all of his time training like an autist
>jobs left and right in the Buu saga and everything after
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>>384373967
Don't be a necrophile, anon.
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>>384373742

You're literally saying gibberish.
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>>384373763

I know but I still want her, she could use all sorts of weapons, get that jetpack Satan has in Budokai...pipe dreams but dreams all the same..

I just want that outfit for Piccolo, also Vegeta as BADMAN
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>>384373086
>his character gets in
>somehow a cuck
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So we're getting King Piccolo too right?
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>>384373967
why did you post a blank picture?
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>>384374095
Yeah right. You have a better chance of getting Roshi.
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>>384372417
>Brapan
That's unfortunate.
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>>384373967
This nigga knows whats up.
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mi cara cuando no persona de súper obtiene en.
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>>384372417
The implications of a boy and girl fusing always bothered me.
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>>384368279
>>384373641
Totals:
>Piccolo - 16
>Krillin - 14
>Trunks - 15
What does it mean?
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>>384372417
>Not maining the ultimate defender of all alignments, Ginyuman
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>>384374064
Problem Is that Launch has fallen hard in relevancy and popularity. If any girl were to get a jetpack and cool tech to fight with, it would be Bulma.
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>>384374281
>mfw your shitty google translation
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>>384374345
Don't fuck with this doctor.
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>>384373641

Interesting.

So Trunks is basically average, with 15 total vs Piccolo's 16 and Krillin's 14. Makes me want to see the ratings for the other six characters.
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>>384374281
>google translate
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>>384374345

that's the characters at their most basic, piccolo and trunks can both go FAR beyond those rankings due to SSJ and other bullshit factors, while Krillin can't.
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>>384374375
Bulma loses to gravity.
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>>384374281
>autistic Zfags are BRs
Color me not surprised in the slightest.
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>>384374486
That's Spanish, not Portuguese you literal retard.
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>>384372265
Literally who
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>>384374610
Shut the fuck up retard
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>>384369648
>No Black
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>>384373659
Technically true, Gohan doesn't job AS hard as Vegeta because he actually won a single important fight, as opposed to Vegeta's zero.

He jobs ALMOST as hard though since he acts like the red herring that will do something meaningful but just gets his shit pushed in every other arc.
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>>384374469
>that's the characters at their most basic, piccolo and trunks can both go FAR beyond those rankings due to SSJ and other bullshit factors, while Krillin can't.
>piccolo can go FAR beyond those rankings due to SSJ

What in the fuck.
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>>384374469
Is it impossible for him to learn the same techniques Goku learned early on in Dragon Ball Z? Kaio-ken, spirit bomb or instant transmission? Or is it just a matter of his training rarely ever being a focus on the story?

Used to have this OC idea that you could use a Spirit Bomb to empower your own aura, and that'd be perfect for Krillin. Then someone informed me Goku did that in a movie once and I stopped pretending to be creative.
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>>384374816

AND OTHER BULLSHIT FACTORS WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY APPLY TO PICCOLO, CAN YOU NOT FUCKING READ
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>>384374816
when you fuck a saiyan you acquire his super saiyan form
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>>384374905

What bullshit factors?

What the fuck are you talking about?

You do realize that none of what you're saying applies to the game right?
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>>384374937
You are unironically describing namekians.
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>>384374851

Look, just remember that if not for shenanigans Krillin would have one-shot Nappa with Destructo Disk.
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>>384373143
Does chinese bootleg have this? No. Fuck off.
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>>384372417
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPan
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Give me one good reason why Towa shouldn't be in the game?

>Is cute. CUTE!!
>Would add more females into the roster, something that DBZ games are completely lacking in compared to other Japanese fighting games
>Is better designed than literally every original Dragon Ball Super major villain
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>>384373763
Why did piccolo start dressing like a fuccboi for a short while
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>>384371196
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Df86aNZ0zU
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>>384373085
I can't find a hot robot to impregnate
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>>384370883
>strongest human alive
>created destructo disk, one of the most OP moves
>marry delicious forehead Amazon wife who idolizes him and thinks he's the fucking coolest
>she probably begs to suck his dick every night as tribute

Karma is a beautiful thing, completely worth dying a few times.
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>>384375274

>that
>fuccboi

You don't know how fuccbois dress, do you?
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>>384375245
Not a Z character.
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>>384373641
>Kame House
>King Kai's planet

Nice.
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>>384375402
Tien is human.
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>>384375245

Donut Steel pls go
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>>384373641
Whats with the chibi stuff?
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>>384375402
>completely worth dying a few times
Islam suddenly makes sense.
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>>384375441
Yes, and?
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>yfw they add in saiyaman and he transforms into ultimate gohan
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>>384372265
She's a stick figure with literally no moves to make her worthwhile
They could make a better moveset for Chi Chi than they could for Caulifla
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>>384374851
In Supersonic Warriors, he actually had access to Kaioken and Spirit Bomb. He also had the Kaioken in Xenoverse 1.
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>>384375565 see >>384370619
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>>384374851
>Used to have this OC idea that you could use a Spirit Bomb to empower your own aura

That's not an OC idea, that's literally from Dragon Ball Z movies and a pretty significant portion of the previous major arc of super.

Stop trying to take credit for things you saw as a child.
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>>384375274
Chichi gave him those clothes or something shit, right? Blame her for apparently having thug-tier fashion sense I guess
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>>384374269
based pluege
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>Players will be able to control chibi characters 中 online mode, similar to the online system 中 the Guilty Gear Xrd series, those chibi characters will be able to battle against each other.

Some explain wtf this is plz
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>>384375694

Finish reading his fucking post
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>>384370883
>Wife doesn't hold him back from his dreams
How is 18 a better wife than Bulma and Chichi?
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>>384371921
That's cool. It probably means we can expect some OVA characters. Hopefuly Janemba.
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>>384374269

>petterz
>not flufferz

come on son
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>>384375051
Same for Great Ape Vegetables and second form Freeza. Krillin has the absolute worst luck in the group.
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>>384375595
Saiyaman would be the only implementation of Adult Gohan I would tolerate. The only other alternative being Future Gohan.
Oh wait, we already have best Gohan, so we don't need Adult Gohan!
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>>384372265
Because she's just shit, and her character design, aside of being ugly as fuck, doesn't fit the game **or even the anime** at all. In short, she shouldn't even exist, and hopefully will be deleted forever soon so that we can all forget about her.
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The only Super characters I want to see are Hit and Vados. Champa is literally just fat Beerus, Zamasu/Goku Black are a fucking retarded villain and the latter is just Goku clone #45 and the rest are boring and bland as fuck.
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>>384375959
>Vegetables
How did I fuck up this bad?
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>>384375694
You fucking idiot.
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>>384375853

18 is stern but fair AND Krillin has more common sense and a better understanding of the real world, Chichi and bulma have to deal with two alien assholes, one of which has brain damage somewhat.
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>>384375853
She isn't, bald manlet is just a better husband.
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>>384374019
>>384373505

Vegeta only jobs when he's 'good'. As soon as he gets possessed or some shit he's more powerful than anyone else. It's the stupidest shit.
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>>384376020
Hit would have a nice moveset.

Black can just be a Goku skin or something. No reason for that to even be a full character.
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>>384368279
HE
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>>384376020
I want Magetta in, just to see how they'd make him work
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>>384374750
>hasn't won an important fight
He took out both of Freeza's personal bodyguards and finished off most of the Ginyu Force. Oh, and he technically beat Goku. Twice.
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>>384375245
>>Would add more females into the roster, something that DBZ games are completely lacking in compared to other Japanese fighting games
>Literally "muh diversity"
Waifufags are no different than SJWs
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>>384376170
It's the typical "Recruiting the boss in an RPG" trope. The boss always gets weaker when they come into your party for no apparent reason. Vegeta can fucking blow up planets with little to no effort, so they obviously can't have him doing that willy nilly.
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>>384376304
So did that laser ring.

And heart disease.
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>>384376304
I wouldn't count the second time, it was only a sucker punch after all.
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>>384375825
in the online lobby, you will have a chibi character that you control. You can use it to talk to other players in order to fight them, and other stuff.
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Thank god!
Piccalo and Kuririn were the only ones I wanted along with Tenshinhan.
I'm officially sold
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>>384375853
Goku family is shit tier, Chichi busy raising his kids and he would rather go fight than see them. Vegeta and Bulma busy with their own shit but they still male time for each other. Theyre pretty good. Reminder Goku has never kissed his wife.

Meanwhile, Krillin and 18 are the best, Krilling loves the fuck out of her and 18 damn near idolizes him. They're always there for each other and are supportive as hell. Shit, 18 lets him fo what he wants as long as he's back in time to give her her dose of midget dick.

Its why NTR 18 doujins ate shit tier, they aint realistc.
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Reminder that these are the idiots who fail to realize the Z in FighterZ is merely for marketing and not to signify what the game will be taking from. You pronounce it as Fighters without separating the Z, nor do you type it as DBZF.
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>>384376569
Gotcha Sounds neat
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even if my favorite character is Ten shin han.
I'm here waiting for the best man
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>>384368279
I recently marathoned DBZ Abridged so I like piccolo way more than I used to.
Gohan Piccolo and Tao Pai Pai will be my team with a pocket Satan for disrespect.
No Pai
No Buy
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>>384377128

Devs confirmed he's not in it.
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>>384377128
They shot that idea down a month ago, pal.
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>>384377128
>>384377197
already deconfirmed by producer
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>>384377128
>>384377197


>that episode when he shows up in Z as an "upgraded" cyborg and Goku is just completely beyond him now.

That was nice.
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i'm glad my boy krillin is in but will we get any love for og dragon ball?
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>>384377128
They said he won't be in those fukcing bastards. All I wanted was mercenary Tao dammit!!
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>>384377279
That was before Z.
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>>384377279
not canon
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I noticed in the recent stuff that Yamcha barely talks to Bulma. Is he still bitter?
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>>384377361
there was Z filler before the Cell Games where he came back and came across Gohan
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>>384372265
>>384375245

Other characters with more of the following exist:

>Clearly defined fighting style
>Fully fleshed out character
>Iconography
>Fan appeal

Once those are out of the way, sure.
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>>384376809
Majority of 18 doujins are NTR.

This is sadly true.
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>>384377361
There's a filler episode before the cell games where he appears.
>MUH CANON
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>>384377434
No, he realizes he dodged a bullet, that's why he dumped her. Friendship is all you need when it comes to Bulma.
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>>384377361

Nah it was in Z

>>384377364

Neither is the driver's license episode and it's still GOAT
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>>384377447
He came back as a cyborg in the world tournament and Tien bodied him.
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>>384377128
He's the only one that the Devs called out by name on their "no way!" list. Sorry, bro.
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What if Gogeta and Vegito fused?
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>>384373763
>Thinks videl will get in
>Super Mai has better chances

hEHEhe
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>>384377447
>>384377513
>>384377525
Oh yeah, that. Who gives a fuck, him getting his shit handed to him by Tien was way cooler.
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>>384377434

What's there to talk about? Her life revolves around business, science, Vegeta, and Trunks with the occasional Goku world saving. Most of that he's not really interested in.
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>>384377604
Gogetto, Vegeta.
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>>384377604
Gogeta has no fucking moveset besides badly made up shit from games
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>>384376785
just call them piccolo and krillin you fucking virgin
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>>384371843
We would need Janemba in the game then.
Imagine they revealed the map but no Janemba!?
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>>384370619
>He can also use “Destructo Disc,” which is impossible to guard against.

This move has always been OP as fuck in every game and dragonball anime fight it was used. I remember wondering 20 years ago why they rarely used destructo disc considering it always raped whoever was on the receiving end regardless of powerlevel gap

That and that flash ability they used to blind people, also worked 100% of the time for a free win
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>>384375245
She's just a sluttier, more generic Vados. Better to have the real thing for the role.
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>>384377803
He has his fabulous kicks and rainbows.
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>>384377803
Gogeta is allegedly more acrobatic while Vegeto is more of a bruiser.
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>>384377803
I mean, he has Stardust Breaker, and if you wanna count GT, Big Bang Kamehameha.
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I thought no super stuff would make it in, but Trunks's moveset has some attacks based on his super showing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl5CDWyV-lk&t=1s

Think this mean super characters will make it?
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>>384369648
I think she confirmed tao won't be in the game
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>>384377967
Doesn't he try to use it on Perfect Cell and it just breaks on his head?
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>>384377967
>"NAPPA, DON'T TOUCH THAT THING"
>Krillin fucking spooked Vegeta
Based bald god.
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>>384376173
Black has a good amount of unique abilities though, mostly his energy blades/scythes. I don't think he even knows how to use Goku's signature moves, which makes him less of a clone than half of the beta roster.
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>>384378051

i thought from the beginning they said that it would encompass ALL of dragonball and the Z was just there to look cool rather than a hard anchor to DBZ
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>>384378020
in the movie he only did:
-invisible punch rush
-flash kick
-knee to head
-fairy dust ki attack

that barely covers special attacks and even with big bang kamehameha from GT they would need to make up all his normals and more specials
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>>384369648
>Tao
He is 100% confirmed to be not in this.
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>>384369648
>Xrd light engine
>reskin

okay
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>>384378204
They never said that, they said they want to make the game enjoyable by all generations. They never stated that all eras of DB would be in the game.
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>>384377967
Literally everyone has thought of that combo.
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>>384378248
its such a shame
he would have a great intro flying in with the pillar
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>>384378138
Yep.
Cell isn't even phased by it.
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>>384375825
It's a lobby mode. Persona 4 Ultimax had this. You pick your character and color and you could sit down at any of the arcade cabinets and wait for someone to take the seat next to yours to play
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This is so far the safest and most predictable roster in the fucking world. I wouldn't mind some callbacks and fun characters like pic related even though I know they never fucking will because muh powerlevels and shit.
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>>384378051
Those attacks from Super aren't even new to Super and were taken from other games. Also it uses references from movies like the Super Android movie. This means nothing.
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>>384376304
>he took out both of Freeza's personal bodyguards
Anon, I said important
>finished off most of the Ginyu Force
IMPORTANT, ANON.
>beating Goku twice
The first time Goku was literally the make-or-break factor on whether he would actually survive or not, the second time was a cheap shot done so he can mega-job to the most pitiful form of Buu.
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>>384378340
Keep twisting it whatever way you want, but it's exactly what it means.
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>>384378354
This. Krillin should just spam the fucking Disk.

>b-but Cell deflected it
Non-canon.
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>>384378340
>>384378534
As many generations as possible*

I.E. players. They never talked about era representation and always shoot down talking about it. They never said anything along the lines of generations, keep shitting yourself retard.
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>>384378534
Lol you're the one twisting words. They never said all eras would be in.
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>>384378546

Thing is not everybody becomes a useless sack of shit after being blinded by Solar Flare, some can still retain their composure to sense and dodge it.
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>>384377604
Gogegito
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>>384378723
It's pretty fucking obvious. You anti Super shitters are the absolute worst and will cling onto anything to justify not having even one character from it in the game.
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>>384378172

He also impressed Vegeta with his speed. Other than Goku he was the only character who Vegeta actually praised.

Krillin being a joke is a meme.
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>>384373641
Hey, I recognize that tower.
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>>384368279
Yeh boi. Now just gimme Kid Buu or Arale and my Team Smol can exist.
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>mfw no one from super gets in
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>>384378436
Just give me Jaco.
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>>384378507
I would think you would have to be pretty fucking strong to be Freeza's PERSONAL bodyguards. And how was the Ginyu Force not important considering they had a dozen episodes?
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>>384378951
>mfw they do
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>>384378951
They already said all generations of fans are getting noticed by senpai, your shitpost is past it's expiration date.
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BEST CHARACTER WHEN

W
H
E
N
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>>384378951
>>384374281
tu cara cuando nadie de super logra entrar
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>>384379113
No they didn't.
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>>384379113
I hope that means no GT. I mean, who the fuck could consider themselves a fan of that?
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>>384378951
>mfw people try to say beerus is a Z character
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>>384379170
Yes they did.
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>>384378951
Isn't Golden Frieza already in?
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>>384379145
Sorry, I don't speak spanish.
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>>384369648
Possible Guest Characters
>Arale
>Luffy
>Naruto
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>>384379191
The only thing I would accept from GT is Pan and SSJ4 Gogeta.

I like SSJ4 because it fucking remembers what Saiyan were, fucking apes.
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>>384377325
Did they say just Tao? Because there is always Cyborg Tao

I am still hoping Roshi/Tenshinhan will be announced together.

>>384377967
Freeza's version is like that too. You need to jump over it twice, since it comes back and can even damage Freeza back.
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>>384379257
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>>384379302
I wouldn't mind Omega Shenron either, it looks pretty neat in terms of design.
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>>384379257
Golden Frieza is TECHNICALLY a DBZ character because his first apearance was in DBZ movie.
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>>384378951
>>384379012
>>384379257
>>384379359
Every god damn thread.
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>>384377604
>we could have had Gogeta fusing with Trunks via the Potara
How could they drop the ball so fucking hard?
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>>384379012
This whore isn't getting in over Ultimate Gohan.
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>>384375548

And he got wrecked by Master Roshi. And he is going to job hard in the tournament.

Krillin is the strongest now, senpai, and this is coming from a huge Tienfag.
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>>384379359
>>384379391
So that's why Omega Shenron appeared in this Z game.
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>>384379514
A fusion can't fuse with something else.
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>>384379561
BAKANA
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>>384377581
Fucking bastards they will pay for this!! Why not Tao!?!?!? Bet they will put Satan in instead.
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>>384379561
appearing in z game doesn't mean he's from Z. Omega Shenron is from GT.
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>>384379436
At least there's other people who carry on my tradition of shitting on Super

Why in the fuck are YOU in every thread?
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>>384379607
Good. Satan deserves a spot in every game.
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>>384379574
Give super some time
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>>384379234
No, they did not.
>>
DBZ characters
Beerus
Whis
SSG Goku
Golden Frieza
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>>384379607

Why do people like Tao so much anyway? He was relevant for a single fight, only for Goku to get a magical deus ex machina and beat his ass into the ground, and then Tien did the same thing once he became a cyborg.
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>>384379732
Go be a child somewhere else.
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>>384379763
SSB Goku and SSb Vegeta as well.
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Is the laserpointer in it?
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>>384377316
They already killed one of the iconic villains in dragon ball so my guess is no. If anything these hacks will Tien, Roshi and Yamcha and claim OG db characters are there along with Goku. Don't expect any characters from db appearing besides the ones i listed that transition to Z.
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>>384379841
But they didn't.
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>>384379531
She'll be much more stronger/relevant when she gets SSB next week
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>>384368279
Not a surprising reveal but they both look fucking great

That beam cannon, the stretchy arms, hellzone grenade. Piccolo is exactly as I wanted him
>>
This game looks amazing as a fighting game but I don't know shit about Dragonball. How do I get into this series, or is it even worth it?
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why do people want Gogeta when we're are sure to get Vegito
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>>384379639
Your argument is that Golden Freeza is from Z, therefore any character not from 'Z' can't appear in FighterZ, never mind that the game is simply pronounced Dragon Ball Fighters, with the Z being a play on words. Also, explain why all the non 'Z' characters appear in this game which is explicitly called Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2.
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>>384379968
You need to be SSG to go SSB. But I wouldn't be surprised if she went SSG between episodes since she's so special.
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>>384379531
>>384379968

Can you faggots go back to /a/? Gohanfags and Caulifags flinging shit at each other is pure cancer.

>>384379908

Yeah, the only DB-only character that has a chance in making the cut is Kid Goku. Who else could they reasonably put in? Hero/Kami? Nam? Giran?
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>>384380154
>Your argument is that Golden Freeza is from Z, therefore any character not from 'Z' can't appear in FighterZ
No, where the fuck did I say that? I just said Golden Freiza is from a Z movie. I never said people outside of Z wouldn't get in.
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wait what the fuck i thought there was only going to be 8 characters?
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>my face when this is the best Krillin has ever looked in a 3d game
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>>384380164
>You need to be SSG to go SSB.

Nice headcanon.
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>>384378997
They're all small fries compared to the actual threat of the arc, is the thing. Zarbon and Dodoria are literally mooks with one and a half gimmicks between them, just a tiny step above a true nobody like Cui.

The Ginyu Force are somewhat more potent, but also Vegeta gets his kills on them like a huge bitch.

>Blindsides Guldo while he's busy beating up Krillin and Gohan
>After getting absolutely demolished by Recoome, he blasts his unconcious body after Goku beats him up
>Curb stomps an unconcious Burter, after Goku beats him up
>Finally gets his 1v1 kill against a frightened Jeice, the team member who bases most of his combat tactics off of combination attacks with his partner, who is now dead. Also, did you know he is LITERALLY space-Yamcha. Seriously, he was recruited from a galactic baseball team.
>>
God, I can't wait for the trailer, if the still images are anything to go by, Krillin is gonna be amazing.
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>>384380140
Vegito's outfit looks like a giant baby in those overalls.
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>>384379968
Your image invokes sad.
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>tfw special beam cannon to win evo
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>>384380219
>Who else could they reasonably put in?
I'm not even going to ask you a better character they could put in, because there's no one better than pic related.
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>>384379359
Oh! So Z is to blame for shitty green-jumper Gohan, not Super! Super is trying to bring his character back to relevancy with an alternative path of power progression, thank you so much for clarifying.
>>
Refresh me on DB lore:

Can two fusions fuse into another fusion?
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>>384378138
Anime only filler, never happened in the manga.

>>384377967
The real reason (or excuse, whichever you prefer) they don't just use the Kienzan all the time is that it's slow and inaccurate, if the opponent isn't a complete retard they'll just dodge it easily. As for the Solar Flare combo, why didn't Frodo and Gandalf just fly to Mordor?
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>>384380454
No one defends shit like RoF. But it's still Z.
>>
>this list 100% for now

-Future Trunks
-Piccolo
-SSJ3 Gotenks
-18
-Krilin
-Beerus
-Tien
-Kid Buu or Super Buu
-Mystic Gohan
-SSJ Vegito
-Yamcha
-17 or 19
-16
-Dabura
-Nappa or Recoome
-Ginyu w/ Ginyu Force as summons

8 heroes and 8 villains

***Broly as day one DLC
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>>384380483
Give super some time and it will be possible.
Not like it matters much anyway, we had dumb fusions in Budokai games for example
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>>384380392
why is she so cute?
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>>384380259
Well why the fuck did you think that?
>>
The core cast is obvious shit but can we get some movie villains in like Cooler?
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>>384380580
>day one DLC
Shut the fuck up.
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>>384373641

Kame House stage confirmed!

>destructive finishes where you get to see your beam part the Ocean like fucking Moses
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>>384380483
Theoretically, you could have two sets of partners do their Fusion Dances, then have each Fusion put on a Potarra Earring I believe? Nothing I know of in the lore says they would cancel out.
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>>384380454
RoF was fucking terrible, but of course it's Z.

Also, Gohan's been shit for a long time now - Super's actually making him SOMEWHAT useful - Z just makes him job fucking constantly ever since meeting Videl.
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>>384380417
Of all the ways to win EVO next year I still think turning someone into a cookie and eating them will be the most humiliating victory.
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>>384380674
Didn't GG have DLC really fast?
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>>384380278
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_God
>Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Blue/Rosé) - This form allows one to further the Super Saiyan God form by combining its power with the Super Saiyan transformation. The version of the form varies depending on the status of the user and the godly ki used.
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>>384380674
>BAMCO
>not doing DLC rape
>>
>if kid Goku hadn't gone with Bulma this smug easter motherfucker would've been the one to end her

Future Trunks lives in the tamest of alternate DB realities.
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>>384373391
>no gogeja SSJ4
fuck off, he is a fan favorite and the strongest character in the whole series

not even beerus can punch a guy 7 times in less than a second
>>
Time for some villain adds after this.
I'm thinking either 19 or Dr Gero would be in due to their eye beams and energy absorbtion which can be grabs or absorbing incoming Ki blasts.
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>only give a shit about Cell Games era cause I missed the boat with most of this show
>everyone but the Androids is already in
lol gg ez
Dragon Ball is pretty fucking good btw
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>>384380454
>So Z is to blame for shitty green-jumper Gohan, not Super!

yes?
i don't know what that has to do with anything - z's got a lot of pretty shit arcs - but yeah, z's responsible for bitch-ass gohan
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>>384380726
>linking a wiki

Vegeta didn't need SSG to go SSB retard.
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>>384380718
no they call GG dlcs new games
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>>384380768
But Kid Goku managed to hit Krillin with his elbow 3 times in the blink of an eye, what are you even trying to say here?
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>>384380225

>>384379359
Seems to say otherwise. And like it or not, Golden Freeza is more tied to Super than 'Z', regardless of the first appearance. By that logic, Goku, Krillin and Piccolo are DB characters.
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>>384380278
>>384380726
How the FUCK does Vegeta do it then? Did they gather up the Saiyans+fetus again and do the ritual for him off-screen?
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>>384379231
>predates Super as a concept
>originating in Super
Champa is Super
Beerus is Z.
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>>384380874
That doesn't say anything like that. I think you need to read that short chain one more time.
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>>384380867
3, not 7
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>>384379558
>Krillin is the strongest now, senpai
He was also the first to get knocked out.
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>>384380831
18's guaranteed to be in.

There's a fair chance we get 16, and a low but fair chance we get 17.

19's right out, and Gero is unlikely as fuck.
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>>384380835
>2 goku's
>2 buu's
>jaco
>fucking janemba
Go away.
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>>384376304

Vegeta is the biggest bitch character I ever had the displeasure of watching growing up.
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>>384380798
I would be absolutely stoked if Dr Gero made it in, but there's almost no chance. He's not even in Xenoverse 2 and that game has like 100 characters.
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>>384380894
Whisjitzu
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>>384380835
I appreciate the optimism, but Janemba won't be making it in to the base roster. MAYBE as DLC, but no way as a launch character.
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>>384380874
Can you not read posts in the correct order?
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>>384381068
Yeah that off-screen sneakup Horror movie logic bullshit sucked. I mean people were looking at him as he celebrated victory, how did they not see Frost?
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>>384380164
>You need to be SSG to go SSB.
Vegeta says hi
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>>384380894
SSB is just Super Saiyan mixed with the god ki Goku and Vegeta were exposed to during Whis' training.
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>>384381069
meant for >>384380809
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>>384381234
Vegeta can turn SSG in the manga.
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>>384381186
they thought it was freeza
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>>384381081
>old and busted Gero
>not new hotness Bulma

Come on anon
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>>384380894

Trained by Whis.
Remember, not every race can get God Ki from magical friendship bullshit, and yet the GoDs must have received it from somewhere. It is likely the Angel's special training at wherever the fuck they stay at is the other way to obtain it.
For all we know, Whis forced Vegeta to drink his god juice.
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>>384381295
And that's about as canon as kaioblue.
Also he accessed blue first.
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>>384380425

Keep making mochi on the moon, faggot.
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>>384380140
Would would i want this jobber? I want the one who actually gets sgit done.
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Well now, this guy has DLC written all over.
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>>384381068

He got knocked off first because of a cheap shot, but in doing so he saved his waifu and secured two more eliminations. Tien hasn't been eliminated yet because he is in the circle.
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>>384381412
Vegito is right there anon.
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>>384381176
>>384380967
That doesn't dispute what I said. Golden Freeza may originated from 'Z' but he's more tied with Super.
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>>384381454
Who could that mysterious masked saiyan be?
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>>384381398
Toriyama works and actually provides direct feedback on the manga.

He gives zero shits about the anime, and doesn't even know what happens during any given episode until he sees it.

Tell me again how the manga's less canon.
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>>384381398
Who gives a shit about whether the anime or manga is canon, at this point it's pretty clear they're alternate continuities. Point is, it happened.
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>>384381295
manga isn't canon
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Ox King? Launch?

Ah fuck Ox King is a recurring character but I think Launch is exclusive to the original run of Dragon Ball. She was only mentioned, I thnk, and never seen again.

There's a pretty big cast associated with Dragon Ball, you'd think there'd be someone that could represent the OG cast that isn't more Goku. Pilaf?
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>>384381069
Good.
I really loved those characters.
The deaths were surprisingly brutal.
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>>384381490
He's still a Z character.
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>>384381490
>but he's more tied with Super
Despite being a form for a character that originated in Z.
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>>384381483

Vegito didn't accomplish jackshit both times he appeared, anon. The only fusion in the series to actually win/complete it's objective was Gogeta in the Fusion Reborn movie, although he also fucked up in GT.
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>>384381520
Wrong, retard. If SSG Vegeta was a Toriyama idea it would have been in the anime and vice-versa for SSBKK.
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>>384373581
Trio de RIP
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>still no super garbage revealed
kek
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>>384381075
>>fucking janemba

You don't want Janamba? kys
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What about this football head?
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>>384381616
Vegito's goal was to get absorbed by Buu to save everyone inside him before obliterating Buu. He accomplished what he set out to do.
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>>384381557
Roshi will be the first DB rep, mark my words.
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>>384381520
>Toriyama works and actually provides direct feedback on the manga.
He just cleans up the manga art. He doesn't give a flying fuck out the story of the manga and openly admits to letting Toyble work on his own for stories as its "better that way"
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>>384381356
WAT

Is that a thing?!
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>>384381490
>That doesn't dispute what I said

>Seems to say otherwise.

He said G. Frieza's a Z Character, and that no one from Super is in yet, not that no one from Super will get in (that was obviously a different anon which you'd know if you read the post chain instead of just assuming like a dumbass)

>>384380874
>By that logic, Goku, Krillin and Piccolo are DB characters.

THEY ARE. WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING ANON
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>>384381557
Launch appeared here and there in Z too, most notably when giving energy for the final genki dama and in that anniversary special about Satan's hotel.
That being said, both are pretty bottom of the barrel characters.
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>>384381665
I'd be ok with him being in as a stage background, but not as a playable character. I actually like Zeno, but he is ridiculous.
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>>384375156
i fucking hate this meme cause BRAAAAP IS NOT THE SOUND A FART MAKES
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>>384381481
I'm fully on board with defending Krillin's actions that led up to him getting cheap-shotted, but I'm not going to start faulting Tien for following Gohan's actually intelligent plan.
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>>384371139
18 is for sure in. If only one android makes the roster, it's Krillin's waifu
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>>384374403
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>>384381665
Gonna appear as a spectator in one of the levels probably in the TOP stage or his home stage.
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>>384380874
>By that logic, Goku, Krillin and Piccolo are DB characters.

Correct.
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>>384378436
Krillin could never beat Perfect Cell in a million years, Arcsys doesn't care about power levels and I don't know why the producer said that in an interview
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>>384380874
>By that logic, Goku, Krillin and Piccolo are DB characters
Yeah, they are. What fucking argument is this supposed to be?
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>>384381069

Honestly, Gero's odd don't look THAT bad.

>pretty relevant to the plot, despite limited appearance
>unique fighting style
>villain
>can have tag-team specials with Nineteen

Still pretty unlikely, but he could still get in over the other less relevant villains.
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>>384381538
parts of the anime aren't either apparently.

That whole return of the Ginyu Force thing.
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>>384380874

>Superfags so butthurt they're trying to say Goku's not a DB character because he's in Super
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>>384371196
The driving school.
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>>384381742
No they aren't. This is a Z game, obviously because it's called Dragon Ball FighterZ and the Z means only Z characters will get in.
t. the logic of Zfags
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>>384381878
And Cell would have 0 chance of beating Buu, so I really don't see your point. Game would be fucking boring if we had to stick with power levels.
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>>384381705
Irrelevant, he doesn't have a confirmed kill which was what anon was getting at. Doubt he will appear again so his chances are gone.
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>>384379968
If she goes SSB I'm done with 4chan
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>>384381481
Entirely his own fault.
Cheap shot or not, you're in the middle of a tournament, one that doesn't stop just because you eliminated one guy. There's still 50+ guys left who are trying to throw you out. Krillin should have immediately get back on focus in case someone tried to do exactly what Frost did.
The gods were absolutely right to give him shit on that. Especially jarring when a few eps ago he was actually telling Gohan pretty much about this being the sort of thing to look out for!
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>>384381843
>>384381945
>>384381971

>>384381987
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>>384382016
>Cell tries to absorb buu
>buu swims up his tail hole and fucks up his insides
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>>384381987
>>384382096

You guys know that Z is just Dragon Ball, right?
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Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Freeza
Cell
Majin Buu
Piccolo
Krillin
Trunks
Gotenks
Super Buu/Buhan
Kid Buu
Janemba
Broly
18
17/Super 17
Beerus
Ultimate Gohan
Dabura
Mr. Satan
Majin Vegeta/Baby Vegeta
Omega Shenron
Hit
Goku Black

DLC
Bardock
Ssj4 Goku/Vegeta
Someone from Super
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>>384382016
It's been like this for over a decade and people still don't get it is my point. Which is hilarious
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>>384382096
No one argues like that, though. People say no super, no one ever says no DB or GT or Movies or 'Z only'. Learn how to read before arguing with people.
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>>384381972
This guy gets it
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>>384381987
Didn't we just have a magazine interview from the devs stating that they will be including characters outside of Z?
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STILL NO SUPER SHIT
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>>384382146
He's a Z fag don't expect a worthwhile argument.
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>>384381878
I think the producer might be retarded, just a little bit.
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>>384381812

Don't get me wrong, i am not trying to fault Tien. I am saying that Super has been shitting on him hardcore.

>jobs in his recruitment episode
>that pathetic showing in the tag fight against Gohan/Piccolo
>they forgot to draw him in some team shots during the tournament
>still didn't do anything in the ToP

I really don't see Tien being relevant in this arc at all, which is an absolute shame.

>>384382069

It was definetly his fault, but it had little to do with strength. Shin didn't give him shit though, he congratulated Krillin for fighting well, despite still looking scary.
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>>384381987
Z characters are Dragon ball characters. Z and Dragon Ball are the same thing, Z's just the anime's way of portraying the latter half of Dragon ball.
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>>384370752
tyler1
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>>384382217
They said that they want fans to enjoy the game regardless of skill level (hence the auto combos) and said that era representation (like DB and GT) largely depends on the fanbase and is a big maybe. They never actually said anything other than that. They never said "all generations will be in" or "only Z" or anything along the lines of those. They've been very vague with all their answers.
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>>384382146
Tell that to the idiots who think anything not from 'Z' can't get in.

>>384382217
They ignore it, as usual.

>>384382369
And of course, sarcasm is lost on you lot.
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>>384382235
>Thinks Beerus won't be in or even HIT

You people can't be this delusional.....right!? Heck they might even add whis for some unique moveset. They won't pass up that oppotunity anon.
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>>384381878
You'd think that but he's continued to improve. And if he were ever the main character of an arc there are already a number of established ways to improve him. He doesn't need to attain Cell's perfect power he just needs to get close enough that his myriad techniques can get up in the science experiment. (android bio-mechanical re-engineering, techniques he doesn't know, whis training)

Actually what the fuck am I saying? Krillin was the FIRST to defeat Cell. Canon.
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>>384382217
They said "everything dragon ball will have representation".

I think we can safely ignore that catch all statement though, otherwise be all better prepare our anuses for pic related.
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>>384382492
>Tell that to the idiots who think anything not from 'Z' can't get in.
No one said that, though. People just said "no super" they never said "Z only"
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Your, that's right, YOUR! Not You're, but your! Your dumb if you don't think Hit is making it into this game
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>>384382286
Don't worry, Tien will get his focus-episode that will make him look pretty stand-up before ending with him getting eliminated.
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>>384382510
BEERUS IS FROM Z, inbred retard
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>>384381972
I love you.
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>>384382492
>sarcasm
>7 posts deep
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>>384382510
>Beerus
>Whis
>Golden Freiza
>SSB Goku
>SSB Vegeta
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>>384382564
I don't think anyone considers Evolution part of the franchise in the same way as GT, Super, Heroes, etc.
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>>384382510
Beerus and Whis are Z.
G. Frieza is Z.

Actually, Jaco is Z thanks to his Manga too. Be totally dope to get him in as the Joke character over Satan.
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>>384370627
God I hate Super fags. There is nothing redeeming about that garbage. There will not be more than 2 Super characters in the game moron.
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>>384382670
why there are Super sayians in DRAGON BALL xenoverse if is not DRAGON BALL Z xenoverse?

the 'its only Z" thing is stupid
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>>384368279
>there were people that non-ironically thought it wouldn't be Krillin and Piccolo
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>>384382596
>People just said "no super" they never said "Z only"
That's the same as saying Z only. We're only nine characters in. There's no telling who'll be added in at this point if the game is still is early in development.
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>>384382616
>>384382670
>>384382778
Oh god you guys are the retards who go on about Beerus and Whis being z characters aren't you
>>
Wait a second!
In the existing videos we see that Frieza has Sorbet as an assist but there's no Tagoma in sight! That means they're basing it from the movie where Tagoma is already dead before ever encountering the Z Fighters! The Z movie version!
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>>384382875
>That's the same as saying Z only
You're fucking stupid.
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>>384382735
Toriyama provided feedback for Evolution actually.
>>
Gogeta SSJ4 or Vegito SSJB, who's stronger
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>>384382812
>it's a 'butthurt z fag posts animation stills' thread

I get that you wished Z got more episodes, but you can imagine some yourself, all you have to do is stare at a poster of Goku for 30 minutes and you have the general plot of Z already down.
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>>384369648
>Jiren

Underage detected
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>>384382875
>That's the same as saying Z only

Z is Dragon Ball - anyone who says "Z" only is automatically including Dragon Ball, because Z is Dragon Ball.
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>>384382557
That's besides the point, I theorized Krillin being SSB level after the forest of training and before that Krillin fans were roughing people up with him in Raging Blast 2 6 years ago against the likes of Super Vegito and Ultimate Gohan.

It's actually really sad seeing people say "muh power levels" as an excuse for them losing, which is why they make every character able to beat every character with regular balance issues aside
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>>384382975
Gogeta SSJ4
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>>384382975
SSJ4 Gogeta was so powerful he got drunk off his own power.
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>>384382882
It doesn't surprise me at all that you actually saved a picture from super.
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>superfags are still butthurt
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>>384382901
The manga and the movie say Tagoma died in a display of Freeza angst. The anime did this weird Namek call-back that made little sense and is best forgotten.
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>>384382882
He certainly isn't a Super character given he existed long before Tori even thought of doing Super.
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>>384382875
>That's the same as saying Z only.
anon what in zeno's name are you doing
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>>384383196
When did he say that?I will conceed if you have proof
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>>384382973
Yeah, and even he thought it was shit.
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>>384382932
Not as stupid as the idiots who think Z is different than Dragon Ball.

>>384383074
Then it call it Dragon Ball and stop separating the timeskip. If it's Dragon Ball, it's fair game. Be it Super, GT, etc. It's all Dragon Ball, so it's all fine. It's only a problem when individuals apply their individual tastes as fact.
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>>384382975
>>384382975
Gogeta divided his power by 5 AND STILL humiliated the guy

Vegito SSJB full power barely managed to hurt zamasu
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>>384382973
The point is that the characters or plot from there are really unlikely, not to say impossible, to appear ever again, even Heroes that uses both the most obscure and newest stuff hasn't touched it.
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>>384382882
>Thinks Beerus is a Super character

Are you the kind of faggot who thinks Venom is a Venom character because he got his own comic years after showing up in Spiderman, which had a retelling of his first appearance?
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>>384383104
You don't have to be the strongest to get drunk off your own power, Perfect Cell was messing around and trying to draw power out of Gohan when he was the strongest in the arena and could have killed all of them at any time.
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>>384383347
God damn dude, just stop.
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Friendly reminder that if Vegeta and Krillin didn't sit around and do nothing like a bunch of pussies, Gohan would have killed Frieza in his second form. I don't remember if it's canon or not though, but literally one Destructo Disc from Krillin would have been the end of the arc.

On that note though, I wonder what the series would be like if that actually happened? Like no Super Saiyans ever came to be and it was just a martial arts battle throughout instead of being about the transformations.

I really hate how Gohan gets his shit pushed in at every turn after the Cell saga. Hell, even against Kibito he somehow got fucked up by two regular fucking earthlings, after powering up to Super Saiyan 2. Yet he kicked Frieza's ass when he was like 8 and could have solo'd Cell if the Saiyan pride thing didn't get in the way. The older he gets the bigger dicks he sucks.

>>384382374
literally lol'd, good post
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>>384376969
What is this picture supposed to be?
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>>384381972

HIRE THIS MAN
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>>384383443
Z nostalgiafagging
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>>384383430
Krillin didn't "sit around". Fuck, he even did more than Vegeta, as a matter of fact, and that's saying a lot considering the only weaker person around at the time was Dende.
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>>384382975
I'd say blue vegito
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>>384382975
Gogeta.

SJ Gogeta is stated to be dozens of times stronger than a regular SJ4.

SJ Vegito is stated to be around the same league as SJ4.
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>>384382975
Vegito jobbed, Gogeta was not even trying and obliterated Shenron.
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>>384383424
Refute what I said, take your time.
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Awesome update
>skims over thread
man I hate the community
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>>384383384
>>384383614
Was Shenron anywhere as strong as Zamasu though?
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>>384383610
Where the fuck has this ever been stated?
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>>384376047
because you're a phone poster and the shit autocorrected, now get off my board scum
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>>384383294
BoG wasn't even his idea until he saw the original themes and changed them.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/

Also take note of the part where he hasn't thought about the future of DB after.
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Excuse my ignorance, but SSB is just SS but activated with god ki, right? So technically Vegito hasn't ever gone past SS1, right?
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>>384383707
Nah, I'll stay just because it seems to be triggering you. <3
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>>384382374
anon you scared me as this was my password when i was like 8 years old
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>>384383430
The DBZ story arc for Gohan reads as a passing of the torch story. Had DBZ ended with Cell it would've been. It is hard to have two alphas in a pack. Super has struggled with it in regards to Vegeta and Goku. Now with Gohan coming back it'll continue to be this tangled mess of expectations.

The Japanese fans are the ones that really pushed Goku back to the forefront. Blame them I guess.
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>>384383347
It's not "All Dragon Ball".

DB and Z are the original Manga, written by Toriyama. The original Manga covers from Goku bonking his head to Goku leaving with Uub.

GT and Super aren't part of the original Manga, and were made with little to no input from Toriyama. They are specifically labeled as "DB GT" or "DB Super", and Toriyama didn't write either of them.
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>>384383692
Of course not, but according to that anon Gogeta still jobbed because he defused before landing the finishing blow just like Vegito
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>>384383692
Zamasu was not that strong, his trump card was the immortal healing shit.
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>>384383653
There were some interesting points and discussions happening before the Z v Super hate fuck began.
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>>384383347
>It's only a problem when individuals apply their individual tastes as fact.
Separating series because they're ACTUALLY SEPARATE SERIES WITH DIFFERENT AUTHORS is applying individual tastes?
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>>384383756
Fair enough. I do remember hearing about how he got the script for super and got excited.
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>>384383551
You know, you're actually right. It had been a long time since I watched it but I just re-watched it, and Krillin had just gotten "killed" and was getting healed by Dende. So there's nothing he could have done. But that only makes Vegeta look worse. Vegeta claims he could have destroyed the planet when he fought Goku on Earth and did the super explosion wave thing, but his energy was drained. If he had fired off anything similar at Frieza when Gohan had him pinned, they would have likely won it. but then,

>relying on Vegeta
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>>384383941
Yeah, Zamasu got his ass handed to him by SS2 Goku and there's no indication that he got any stronger until he fused with Black.

He had a cool fighting style based on counters and magic though, I'd like to see him in the game. Maybe work his immortality in as regenerating health.
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>>384383702
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT_Perfect_Files
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>>384370759
Piccolo and everyone in DB had all sorts of cool techniques that stopped being relevant because of beam spam and flailing your fists and legs randomly while teleporting. Tien could grow multiple arms, Piccolo could become giant, etc...
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>>384383771
They have stated and shown plenty of feats which imply that SSB is stronger than SSj3 and SSG in every possible way, so that's something
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>>384383982
Agreed they need to take this shit elsewhere
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>>384384138
So nothing about Blue then. Which in and of itself was leagues above SS4.
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Why do people forget that "Super" is still "Z"? Super is between the 10 year gap, which was a stupid idea, but that was Toriyama's fault
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>>384384196
To be fair, Tien used his multi-arm thing in the Super episode where they recruit him, though it does nothing.

Piccolo stopped using the giant form because Goku made him realize it just makes him a bigger target. Same reason Tien stopped using multi-form, Goku pointed out that it's shit.
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>>384383868
>The Japanese fans are the ones that really pushed Goku back to the forefront. Blame them I guess.

That's actually not true. It was Toriyama entirely.

He tried to make Gohan the main character at the beginning of the Buu Saga after Goku had sacrified himself, but after a few Chapters Toriyama wasn't feeling it anymore so he brought Goku back.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/boo/

>Interviewer: And then the Cell arc ended. Did you think that everyone felt you would put Gohan into the leading role?

>Akira Toriyama: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
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>>384384092
It's nice to see people aknowledging Krillin, because, yeah he dies like a bitch, but he's always in over his head no matter what. Even though he's the most down to earth (hah) fighter, he does his best in the most dire situations. When Buu chased everyone in the outlook, Krillin tried to stop him ( to no avail of course but he tried).
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>>384383692
>negative energy being formed by one set of corrupted Dragon Balls
>stated to have the power to slowly eliminate a universe via spreading his energy
>required a Spirit Bomb using energy from all over the entire universe to destroy him

vs.

>renegade kaioshin who fuses with renegade kaioshin that also is using Goku's body (keeping in mind that he is now already making use of half of Gogeta's power source), further empowered by half of a Super Dragon Ball (multiversal-level power) granted wish for immortality
>despite the imperfect immortality, its binding power renders him unable to be destroyed traditionally, and allows him to fuse his very essence into an entire universe
>requires a complete universal erasure in order to finally kill for good

I think Zamasu edges out Shenron just a bit, and God Ki edges out perfected monkeymode.
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>>384383916
>DB and Z are the original Manga
Dragon Ball is the original Manga. Z is the animated adaption of the timeskip. GT and Super are still part of Dragon Ball as a whole. If you're going to cite the original manga, you would call it Dragon Ball, from start to finish.
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All ssj4 vs ssjb convos are adorable when you remember that ssjb's power transcends mortal comprehension.
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>>384384419
Krillin deserves more credit simply for surviving as long as he did on Namek.
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>>384384548
Word.
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>>384384542
Irrelevant since there are mortals strong enough to beat up GoD's.
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>>384384196
>>384384318

One of the only cool things to come from filler was Piccolo increasing his size to fight Garlic Jr. He only grew enough to become 9-10 feet tall, becoming more powerful without the obvious weakness of his giant form.
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>>384384196
It's mostly because Goku kicks their ass and tells them why their techniques are fuck awful.

The exception being the multi-form technique (which to this day still pops out randomly), but that's only useful in certain situations since it drastically reduces your power.
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>>384384476
Yeah, Zamasu is the first and only villain to completely succeed. They simply could not beat him and had to call God Himself to just delete the whole shit.
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>>384384503
>If you're going to cite the original manga, you would call it Dragon Ball, from start to finish.
No, Z is used not to refer to the anime but the post timeskip portion of Dragonball for convenience.
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>>384384652
They probably have a taste of God Ki themselves though. I'm pretty sure it's required to even stand up to them.
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>>384373085
I am not a character designed to fulfill the desires of the average chink.
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>>384384503
>If you're going to cite the original manga, you would call it Dragon Ball, from start to finish.

That what like 5 others have been doing but you're still going "MUH Z"
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>>384384584
I would also argue he was the real MVP of the Nappa/Vegeta fight
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>>384384745
Well Frieza doesn't have god ki in the slightest and can stand up to pure destruction energy.
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>>384371196
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>>384384680
Piccolo uses multi-form the best, to create a sparring partner for himself
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>>384384308
For all purposes, it's a different series even if it happens in betweeen.
People take this to stupid levels though. Yes, in paper, Z is part of the original dragon ball manga, but most things that use said title are based on the anime, and having that doesn't mean characters exclusively from that part of the anime will appear, which has been the case for a lot of previous games.
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>>384384745
This. Being in the presence of God ki having adverse effects is the only explanation for several power boosts that occur in Super.
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>>384384503
Z's basically short hand for "Second half of Dragon Ball".

GT and Super are entirely different series from different authors, just set in the author's original universe.
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>>384384793
Yajirobe was the REALEST MVP for bothering to bring a sword to a Saiyan fight. Can't discount that the Krillster was literally inches from offing the fan favorite of the show before he became anything worth a shit though.
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>>384384793
In that case, I would say it was really a joint effort between him, Piccolo and Gohan when he finally got his shit together. He did pull his weight against a (weakened) Vegeta, though, and that's no small feat.
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>>384370619
>He can also use “Destructo Disc,” which is impossible to guard against
I can see Krillin being picked a lot if his assist turns out to be the Destructo Disc.
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>>384384982
Yajirobe definitely deserves an honorable mention
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>>384384932
Explain Frieza just giving zero shits about Haiki.
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>>384384884
Freiza is also a freak of nature who was a mid-game boss back when he was lazy and out of shape.
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>>384384968
You realise Tori wrote the main storylines for Super right?
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>>384384412
Thanks for the info man. Yeah, so many years and so much misinformation headcanon bs. I'll take a look at the link here in a bit.
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>>384385056
I feel like when the developers talked about characters who are "better as an assist" they were specifically talking about Krillin
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>>384385280
Man, that won't keep me from maining the fuck out of him.
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>>384385145
>main storylines for Super right

No, he wrote a wide scope outline, and already said that they've deviated from it and he can't wait to see what they do next because he isn't even sure.

He's not the author anymore, they just go to him for advice occasionally and sometimes listen to him and sometimes ignore him. Occasionally consulted advisor =/= author.
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>>384385114
See >>384385118
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>>384385161
>Thanks for the info man. Yeah, so many years and so much misinformation headcanon bs. I'll take a look at the link here in a bit.

No worries - it's mostly just Toriyama doesn't really take the time to plan ahead past a few chapters, and he also flipflops on his decisions a lot.
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>>384385353
Same, he still looks perfectly viable as a main fighter, just requiring a bit more skill and trickery.

so glad they gave him the afterimage
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>>384384695
>>384384968
Only in the west, and that was a stupid choice from the start. It was always Dragon Ball from start to finish.

>>384385390
He still wrote the basic storyline for Super, therefore he wrote it, regardless of what Toei changes.

>>384384783
Reread my post and the replies, dumbass.
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>>384385395
So in other words, godly ki doesn't mean shit.
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>>384385118
>>384385395

That's... actually fair.
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>>384385390
1) source
2) those "deviations" are equal to Frieza's five minutes in other words they're still following the story Tori wrote but are extending scenes and such
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>>384385579
No, it's that Frieza's already a God of Destruction level character, without even having Godly Ki, because he's a game breaking character.
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So the next reveal has got to be a villain or two, right? We're a little unbalanced with heroes so far.
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>>384385778
So godly ki doesn't mean shit.
Like you said Frieza is GoD tier without having any god ki.
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>>384385778
That changes nothing about this argument. You don't need God Ki to fight a GoD and Freiza might not be the only freak of nature.
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>All these people saying Super wont make appearance in game
>When ArcSys has many playstyles to choose from due to GG and BB
>when they would only want popular characters like Hit to fill Izanami's shoes instead of Guldo

Delusion to the MAXIMUM
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Is there anyone from the gayball z universe that could win a fight against these two? (protip: there isn't.)
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>>384380580

>Dabura

Patrician taste
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>>384384884
>>384385114
Interesting point, actually. There's a couple of possible explanations:

>Frieza's time in Hell has been spent with him doing intensive mental training since he can't move his body at all, which increased his capacity to control energy immensely. This allowed him to redirect the Hakkai that was thrown at him, since it was stated to have been powered down to allow a mortal to even hold and use it in the first place.
>Frieza's time in Hell infused him with a small measure of God Ki due to the nature of the plane
>Frieza's race are simply beings with a natural affinity for God Ki to begin with, they are very untraditional in their biology, especially in Frieza's case as him and his father were considered mutants of their kind, with freakishly large natural power levels.
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>>384385906

Devilman would body Sasuke.
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>>384385906
unironically Krillin
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>>384385906
Naruto characters wouldnt get their shit wrecked by Namek tier characters, it's not even possible to compare the two.
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>>384373967
literally who
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>>384385906
Krillin and higher.
Remember characters like Roshi were pulling out feats like theirs from the beginning.
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>>384385887
If Godly ki means so little to you, explain Beerus' k/d ratio.
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>>384385901
>>384385887

Frieza's been in the presence of Godly Ki likely many times, and at least once was confirmed, as Beerus gave him the order to kill the saiyans.
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>>384385532
Yeah that's exactly it. He doesn't plan and he forgets. I know he mentioned the Japanese fans at some point with the whole Gohan/Goku thing but assuming that's the whole story would just be simple of me.
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>>384382596
Why seperate shit at all, we've been getting GT characters in "Dragonball Z" games for years?
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I just wanna play as Cooler, Broly, Bardock and maybe Pikkon and I'd be set. Cooler doesn't get enough love.
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>>384386094
What does that have to do with this argument? His job is to destroy weaker planets.
Also if Godly ki means so much to you why was Frieza kicking the shit out of Goku in RoF before the fatigue set in?
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>>384386207
Stupid people who get mad at super for existing and need to spam it on every thread.
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>>384386203
So by this logic Freiza should have god Ki because he was around Beerus at least once, but seeing how he isn't a god himself he shouldn't be able to pass it onto others, right?
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>>384386207
>we've been getting GT characters in "Dragonball Z" games for years?

That only started when they ran out of Z characters.
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>>384385906
Legitimately anyone from Yamcha and higher once the saiyans arrive.
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