CS:GO

It has more players than any CoD so yes I think people might have realized.

Its also boring and your bait is shit.

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>>384368073
Have you seen gameplay of this masterpiece yet? Once this comes out noone will play csgo anymore.

>>384368471
This, it's a CSkiller for sure.

>>384368073
>shit graphics
>autistic learning curve to master just how to shoot the guns
>2 gametypes
>shitty weapon balance means that the same set of guns is op every patch and the same set is useless

Kys gaben

I like shitposting as much as the next guy, but this is just lame

CSfags and CODfags are having a real life deathmatch. First a CSfag kills a CODfag with a headshot, then a CODfag blasts a CSfag to smithereens with a grenade. What's the score?
2:0 for the rest of humanity

>>384368847
>autistic learning curve to master just how to shoot the guns
This. I mean I like the game but people always say that it's "easy to learn hard to master" while it's more like "hard to learn hard to master".
Someone who is completely new to the game won't be able to do the think a shooter is all about - shooting someone. Plus first shot accuracy sucks on most guns making the game too much rng.

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Love how the models eye isn't even lined up with the scope. never noticed this before. Good job Gaben.

>>384369263

LMAO LE FUNNY POST HAHAHAHAH UPVOTED PLS SCREENCAP THIS

>>384369565
As stupid as his post was, actually liking and shilling cod and cs is far more reddit-y

>>384369482
It's pretty accurate with the bullets coming out of the player's head.

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cheating in csgo is pretty fun desu

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>>384368073
heh

>>384370439
>>384368847

Oh yeah I also forgot the rampancy of cheaters and smurfs

>>384368073
But the thing is, CS:GO is so different from COD that you can't really even compare the two. People who play cod won't/don't play cs, and vice versa.

>>384369263
I don't get it?

>>384368073
$16 for game. $50 for a set of decent skins

>>384373282
Okay?

>>384373387
Whos forcing you to buy those skins?

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>>384368073
>play CS:GO
>have to memorize a random spray of bullets that doesn't even go where you aim but if you know the pattern they do indeed go "where you aim"
>play COD
>aim your gun and bullets go where they are aimed

Counterstrike fucking sucks and I've only played around 2 hours of COD in my life.

csgo is trash, only worth playing competitive while drunk with one or two friends and trying jumpshots with the deagle

Because the community is so shit and full of tryhards you just can't take it seriously when you get some pole/swede/finn/russian screaming in his mic because you could not kill 4 people alone.

Call of duty is full of campers are assholes who abuse OP weapons too but atleast camos are free and you can always start using explosives just to mess with tryhards

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>CSGOyim hate on COD
>CSGO becomes literally COD lite
>has shitty skins for weapons just like cod
>has a normie/chad tier fanbase just like cod
>people going bezerk over noscopes and wall bangs even though they're mediocre
>Esports and community shit just like COD
>fucking FAZE and other COD clans are now literally CSGOoyim at the highest level
HHHhhhhhmmm......

>>384370789
good spot, anon.

>>384368140
On PC maybe

>>384373282
Question mark?

>>384368073
Of course m8.
Two different games, both shooters but one is more casual and can be picked up in a weekend, the other one requiers, at least, 500 hours to find the 'fun part'.
As far as I'm concerned COD doesn't have that failure flavor that CS has.
Still, two fun games that can co-exist since they have different goals.

t. CS player since 1999

>>384376384
what the fuck are you trying to say
can you try speaking like you didnt just get off the fucking boat from /b/

>>384377737
>he cant read
LOOK, HE'S A DUMB NIGGER!! A NIGGER!!!

>>384375310
Peer pressure

>>384375946
That's what you get for playing on EU servers.

>>384378018
I have over a thousand hours in GO and I've literally never seen anyone saying something about other people's skins apart from complimenting the ones they liked.

I think the only exception is that if you have no skins and play well people will call you a smurf or cheater. But that is one of the highest compliments you can get...

>>384378210
I was mostly joking.

As time went on, I just found myself wanting some cool skins. Especially for the guns I use a lot.

>>384379115
I've bought pretty much all of my skins by selling boxes.

This was before Valve introduced more hoops to jump through to sell stuff.

>>384368847
>autistic learning curve to master just how to shoot the guns
fucking this

i hate the spray patterns

>>384379308
Then tap fire.

>>384375564
First bullet always goes where you aim if you arent moving tho. Also, spray isnt random

>>384379387
It's not fun.

>>384379308
For most guns for a short burst you just want to move your mouse down. Elaborate patterns are for longer bursts, but with how small the head hitboxes are in GO even most pros prefer shorter bursts. Unless you want to be next Get_right, just burst.

>>384379457
There's a bit of random inaccuracy in GO, which is kind of a weird design decision, an attempt to make SG and AUG more attractive, I guess.

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>>384368847
>>384379308
>>384375564
At least CS makes it actually a challenge to control your gun unlike virtually every other shooter where it's piss easy to control recoil. I really like Siege, for instance, but almost every gun feels the same unless you go between extremes like Buck and Jackal or they can't take an ACOG.

I don't understand why making you have to actually learn and be good with a particular gun is a bad thing. It's not even complicated unless you want to go for a full spray which is usually not even a good idea if you can. The first ten bullets are literally just pull down and that should be all you need or that the enemy will allow nine times out of ten.

>>384380963
Nigger, shooting guns in real life are easier than shooting guns in csgo

csgo is so clunky and shit

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>>384380963

The challenge should not be controlling your autistic gun, the challenge should be shooting the other guy without him shooting you.

>>384381534
this

>>384381460
>Nigger, shooting guns in real life are easier than shooting guns in csgo
Who gives a shit what's easier in real life?

>>384381534
>>384381586
Okay, so just remove recoil and make every weapon in every shooter a laser then?

>>384381534
Thanks for putting succinctly why I hate CS:GO, every other shooter you're working on one level, you're all trying to shoot each other and not get shot

in CS:GO, you're working on two levels, the first level you're fighting with your clunky as shit gun, and also trying not to get shot

>>384381739
>in CS:GO, you're working on two levels, the first level you're fighting with your clunky as shit gun, and also trying not to get shot
it's funny because there's also tactical level where you have to buy and act as a team but you completely skip it

>>384381718
It's not about recoil, it's about how recoil is simulated in CSGO. Recoil in other games like battlefield 4 the gun sight moves around, that's fine

in csgo, the gun stays in the same spot, but the bullets go in different places, it doesn't even make sense

>>384381841
it's better that way

>>384381534
>>384381841
the point of spray patterns is mostly that it disallows players from spraying eachother down from across the map while also limiting the amount of RNG needed to achieve this

if the bullets would still go where your crosshair is that would defeat the whole point

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>>384369270
Game's easy to learn medium to master.
>easy to learn
pick up smg and shoot works for silver
>medium to master
watch some eurocunt on youtube tell you how to throw a smoke grenade and a molly on one map, and only queue for that map. Download a spray pattern map and ak becomes really easy. wow you're now in dmg.

>>384381956
not how it works in real life

when you shoot a gun irl it moves

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>>384382054

Again, the problem is your gun has too many chromosomes and the recoil is ridiculous. Spray patterns vary between about 3 different kinds, making it RNG, with the first shot being just as copious to manage. Then you factor in the fact that most of the guns aren't effective when moving around, forcing you to tap your movement keys just to try and get your horrible two-handed bullet slot machine to kill anything. It got so bad that when people started using the AWP and even the shotguns exclusively (since they didn't have those dumb recoil mechanics) they nerfed them to be exactly the same.

The game is a disingenuous sack of shit designed to be as unrewarding, frustrating and artificially "equal" as the shitty crate and key system it constantly begs you to partake in. At least in Overwatch or Team Fortress there are many weapons that can be used without having to manage three different things just to manage one gun. Never mind real shooters that don't include this garbage concept at all. Significantly better games have "laser" accuracy and are taken more seriously than CS:GO, and you'll never know why because you grew up with this horrible crap.

>>384382295
I doubt csgo was going for the realism audience

>>384381841
I thought controlling guns was the problem though?

>Recoil in other games like battlefield 4 the gun sight moves around
Which shows you exactly how to control it while you're using it so you don't have to actually learn guns at all. You don't learn how guns work in BF4 beyond basic muscle memory because there's nothing to learn. Anybody can pickup BF4 and use all the guns just fine right away. It's fine if you don't want to have to practice at the game but don't act like it's inferior and the game needs to change to accommodate more casual players.

>>384382295
>not how it works in real life
Who gives a shit?

>>384382295
no your arms move the gun because the bang scares your scaredy bitch ass. cs:go shooters are trained professionals ant not pussy

lmao I always thought /v/ was just bad at games and loves to complain but I never thought it was this bad
the fact that you have to put in some work and actually practice makes this game 100x better than most other shooters out right now

>>384382853
You what that can be said with any shitty game.
>wow this game sucks
>now that i've put over 600 hours into this bad game and i have mastered the shitty backwards mechanics its fun.
fuck off gook

>>384382853
i can't remember the last time i had fun with cs

>>384382502
>I doubt csgo was going for the realism audience
That's all the fucking faggots who play it talk about, how it's the most realistic shooter.

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>>384382853
>pick up any arena shooter
>practice 1000 hours of running, jumping and aiming
>your skills are learning projectiles, learning to conc jump and learning how to move so you dont get fragged

>pick up CS:GO
>practice 10000 hours of learning how to swarm A, swarm B or pray the enemy team is too stupid to swarm
>your skills are learning randomized spray patterns, randomized first shots, randomized grenade throws, beetle-walking so your randomized gun is slightly less random, taking random amounts of damage and putting up with vladimir yelling at you for not following his "rush P90" plan

How will I ever live, not learning the many intricacies of CS:GO?

>>384382469
>designed to be as unrewarding
The game wasn't designed. It was a free mod, an attempt to make a tacticoolish shooter on a HL engine. It grew into a community that loves its quirks and doesn't want them to change. If you want a tacticool shooter without those quirks, just don't play CS? ARMA and Red Orchestra are waiting for you on the more hardcore side, Call of Duty on the less hardcore, Siege somewhere inbetween.

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>>384383298
>The game wasn't designed.

>>384383238
I doubt they say that unironically.
>hey bubba my gun has kittens on it
>neat, joe. Mine has blue waves with weed stickers on it
>Simultaneous: THIS GAME IS THE MOST REALISTIC GAME EVER

>>384383387
I wouldn't really call a process of making a mod "design". Just a bunch of amateurs experimenting with an engine and tools and making one of the most popular online shooters. I'm probably not giving them enough credit, though.

The "gun doesn't move but recoil does" is definitely because that was easier to do on HL engine, and now that's kind of one of those CS things which people will get upset if you remove.

>>384369270
>First shot accuracy sucks on most guns

CT pistols one tap and have perfect accuracy while moving.
Every rifle in the game has perfect one shot accuracy when standing still.

The autistic part of shooting is being able to shoot and move while stopping on every accuracy reset for the first shot accuracy

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the game was for 2,74€ and now it doesnt get lower than 9,37€

>>384383716
>perfect accuracy while moving
Pistols are more accurate on the move but not perfectly accurate.

>>384383419
not him but every guy i've met that plays cs say its the most realistic shooter, people who by the way has never shot a gun, and when playing cod with them they fucking dare to say they lost because it's not realistic enough

>>384383801
Every CS sale is a cheater wave. At least it's not F2P.

>>384383298
stop spouting shit you fag, counter strike source was miles better than csgo as far as gunplay goes, and the movement was much more interesting as well. The patterns in counter strike source felt manageable at range and were much tighter and less random. Bhopping was pretty fun as well, and the game was much faster paced because of it. When you died, it was because the other player was better, not because a random flyer from a fucking m4 hit your head, 3 feet from where he was aiming.

CS:GO has had seven of those operation passes at 6 dollars a pop.
Add 42 dollars to that initial 12 dollar price (if you bought it at launch)

>>384383817
I think you just don't know how to take sarcasm.

>>384376487
Well yeah, people with good judgement don't play FPSs on consoles anyway.

>>384383942
>The patterns in counter strike source felt managea
That's because it had enormous head hitboxes. GO hitboxes (hitcapsules as of that one update) are actually as big as a head, so you get less random spray headshots. The horror.

Anyway, I barely played Source. 1.3, 1.6, then GO.

>>384382469
>Spray patterns vary between about 3 different kinds
No, they don't. The spread has a slight variance but the pattern itself is always the same.

>forcing you to tap your movement keys
Sorry that you actually have to manage your movement.

>It got so bad that when people started using the AWP and even the shotguns exclusively (since they didn't have those dumb recoil mechanics) they nerfed them to be exactly the same.
What are you even talking about?

>designed to be as unrewarding, frustrating and artificially "equal"
Explain how it's designed to be any of those things beyond you being bad.

>there are many weapons that can be used without having to manage three different things just to manage one gun
Again, you're complaining about the game actually making you manage movement and recoil in a way that every casual can't instantly do it as soon as they pick it up. You're literally asking for the game to be dumbed down.

>Never mind real shooters
So, who defines what a 'real' shooter is?

>Significantly better games have "laser" accuracy
So? Explain why that is actually better instead of saying it's better because a non-specific 'better' game did something different.

Goddamn, stick to complaining about the RNG. At least that's actually valid and doesn't make these threads look like they're full of retarded casuals even to people that hate CS. You niggers can't make an argument worth shit and half the bitching in this thread is people complaining they have to learn mechanics and practice to do well.

>>384379308
Spraying is only viable if you encounter 2 or more in row.
Tapping is the way to go.

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>>384384270
>Valve Internet Defense Force still exists

Thank you for rationalizing shit game design so we can ensure it will never be improved

>>384384817
CS doesn't need much improvement. CS is CS, just let it be. Don't play it - plenty of other MP FPS. CS is for people who like CS, who grew with it. It's fine being its own weird and clunky thing.

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>>384383942
>The patterns in counter strike source felt manageable at range and were much tighter and less random.
The patterns in Source were considerably more random with four different patterns, GO only has one for each gun, and more variance. The base first shot accuracy was also lower in both 1.6 and Source than it is in CSGO, except when you quickswitched or reloaded in 1.6 due to a bug that gave you perfect accuracy on your first shot afterwards.

>>384383942
>not because a random flyer from a fucking m4 hit your head, 3 feet from where he was aiming.
The only difference between Source and GO that would affect accuracy in Source's favor is the much larger hitboxes that extended far past the body. Between those and the more random recoil, your example is far more likely to happen in Source than it ever would in GO.

>>384368471
>CoD kids being this ignorant
I hate CS:GO with a passion, but if you really think that CoDWWII won't just be a 6 month flavor then you are deluding yourself.

>>384384154
I'm just talking about if I shot the gun at a wall, and attempted to control it, it would be more manageable.

>>384368847
>>384369270
>>384379308
Literally just pull the mouse down a little bit. If you are actually shooting all 20 something bullets in a magazine at once you are doing something very wrong. Its amazing how a board as autistic as this one can be so shit at video games. CoD is literally made for you retards.

>>384384971

Where was this argument when Valve made the deagle worthless, tripled the recoil on every gun, nerfed bunnyhopping to death and made the game feel like two teams of 300 pound men flailing their guns around?

Global Offensive is the worst Counter-Strike game.

>>384385309
Turtle Rock. And uh, they want to be relevant, I guess? Deagle isn't worthless, it's just hard to use, but it's very good at its niche.

>>384385368
Source exists, though.

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>>384384817
>Somebody points out how you're retarded
>"V-VIDF"
I don't need to like Valve or GO to point out how your entire post is full of shit. How about you actually give examples of how it can be improved that doesn't involve completely throwing out proven game design that hundreds of thousands of people like in favor of something you prefer? How about you actually refute anything I said or explain any of your shitty observations that have no actual evidence behind them? If you can't do that then just fuck off like the retard you are.

anybody still playing source?

>>384385990
>proven game design that hundreds of thousands of people like

People love the lootbox system too, are you going to sit and defend that being in every game nowadays?

>>384385990
Your autistic lol

I thought all guns had the same spray pattern, but then they also had a slight randomness thrown on top as well.

>>384368847
You sense the casul from far, far a way.

>>384386262
>all guns had the same spray pattern
No, no, no. Check AK and SG. AK starts by going straight up, SG goes up-right. Probably one of reasons SG is so rarely used despite being so good.

half this thread is underage faggots who never played 1.6.

every map was better in 1.6, every weapon, every mod was better too.

1.6 was so much better one day you could play plain dust_2 with kids screaming in your mic and weirdos RPing, the next day you could play 0 gravity scoutsknivez, or awp 1337sk337, next gay you could surf or kz, or grind on your wc3 mod servers.

>tfw undead with attack claws + mp5

>>384386387
>use SG/Aug in a duel server
>people throw a fucking autistic fit

>>384386387
Sorry, meant to say that each individual gun has the same spray pattern (IE an AK will always have the same AK spray pattern) thus the "All guns had the same spray pattern".

namefags need to die

>>384386505
source was better for mods like death run and zombie mod and shit

1.6 was better to play the actual game

>>384386387
nothing to do with the spray. It is the cost that makes it just slightly too expensive. If you can spare the shekels SG is potentially the best gun in the game.

>>384386074
>People love the lootbox system too, are you going to sit and defend that being in every game nowadays?
I don't give a shit about lootboxes because in every game they're just cosmetic bullshit that I don't care about in the first place, so I guess I don't really see the issue or think it's anything worth arguing about. Stick to talking about CS.

>>384386143
You too :3

>>384386642
Pros won't buy it even when they have 16000 and it's the last round (they'll buy autos to wallbang d2 mid though). Most of them just don't train with its spray, When you spend literal months spraying at targets with an AK you don't really want to buy a gun that has a completely different pattern, I guess. I'm a much more casual player so I enjoy SG whenever I have the extra dosh, though.

>>384386574
Oh, I see.

>>384383802
i think he meant strafing (going left and stop by going right, thus making the shot stupidly accurate like you never moved)

>>384386262
>I thought all guns had the same spray pattern, but then they also had a slight randomness thrown on top as well.
They do in GO, 1.6 and Source had a variety of spray patterns that each had more variance.

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>play CSS
>cant tell if its a bot or a hacker
how do i check for bots?

>>384387008
I don't think he did, if you counter-strafe perfectly every gun is accurate, not just USP.
>tfw don't have coordination to do that

>>384387008
That's stutter step. It's is a good technique that's very easy to learn.

>>384368073
by 20 times as fun do you mean:
-learning a spray pattern that doesn't work because hitboxes
-griefers/cheaters in comp (mic spam as well)
-toxic community
Even if it was on sale, i regret buying it.

>>384387123
Shouldn't it say it in place of their ping or am I thinking of a different game?

>>384387851
>learning a spray pattern that doesn't work because hitboxes
How do the hitboxes make it not work besides you missing? Also, you just need to pull down for the first ten bullets or so which is all that really matters.

>>384386936
Pros do buy it, but it really depends on the situation and the map. Imagine losing SG to CTs on long ranged maps. That SG will be grim reaper in the hands of the holding side.

>>384388091
>Pros do buy it
I've only ever seen NBK do that.
>Imagine losing SG to CTs on long ranged maps
Yeah, that could get ugly.

>>384387938
>ping them
>it shows regular ms
they were definately bots because they jumped everywhere and didnt chat and seen through walls

>>384368073
The game just isnt fun
infact, its about as fun as a moba, its somehow such a slow based game that any fun is just thrown out the door since half the match is just you spectating
not to mention its the same shit over and over with nothing new being added to the game in a few fucking years, infact the only new things added are fucking skins
T.faggot who got to mg2 and the got bored

>>384388058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb1WKy1AYHs
Explain these, then.

>>384388524
Still has nothing to do with spraying. If you really rely on spraying the guns you and already doing something wrong. This game is about precision which penalizes spaying the guns by adding more RNG.
That video Though is just nitpicking. Shit like that happen on any FPS game.

>>384380963

>Jackal being listed as an example of bad recoil

Confirmed for never having played the game. His recoil is minuscule

Also, a lot of guns have high recoil even if the memes says they don't. the MP7 for example climbs all over the place

>>384388524
>A bunch of clips that don't show any connection info and are before the updates made to fix shit like that
>None of them actually involve spraying
Look, I'm not saying the game is perfect, there's literally no game that isn't going to get bad hitreg occasionally and CSGO in particular has had some bullshit hitreg issues in the past, but complaining that spray patterns don't work because of a few fringe cases of pro players getting fucked is just you making excuses.

>>384390291
>Jackal being listed as an example of bad recoil
I literally said the exact opposite. Reread my post.

>>384383716
Have you actually played the game? The guns are in no way perfectly accurate when Standing still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds

Say what you want about spraying and stuff, but even if you git gud the game still sucks because of hackers(w/o prime) and smurfs(with). Also weapon balance is terrible.

Everyone buys the same pistols, m4, AK, scout, p90 and UMP(at low ranks), AWP every single round. Like hoe little shits does Valve give about balance when an entire category of guns (heavy) is nonviable above silver.

>>384392473
>w/o prime
why would you play without prime

wrt guns people buy their SMG of choice for force/anti-eco, shotguns are viable on close combat maps or on CT if you know you can hold a close angle (SWAG-7!), cheap assault rifles are used, expensive ones are rarely used, scout and autos are used. Most pistols are used except for dualies (meme gun). It's good enough.

>>384392695
Because the game bans you for a week when its dogshit netcode decides to give you the middle finger

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insurgency is better m' boy. Although SQUAD will probably outdo insurgency eventually.

And if I ever get bored of insurgency I'd fire up battlefield and blow shit up and jump out of helicopters, a lot more fun then playing a FPS with drooling pcbros frothing at the mouth to get .001 second flick wrist super aim with the precise gun spray models they memorized.

>>384392473
Every pistol is used besides dualies, most of the smgs are used (though UMP and MAC 10s are go-tos), almost every rifle is used situationally with M4 and AK as the staple, and even pros will occasionally pick up shotguns. The weapon balance is fine, not every weapon needs to be perfectly viable for a game to have good weapon balance, and especially not all the time.

>>384392454
This.
Another point I'd bring up is that CS has so much downtime it's crazy. The first 30 seconds of every round is people getting to their positions which rarely change.
Other competitive games didn't do this - Quake,Starcraft,Dota etc. You are always occupied with something in those.
It's simply weird if you'd ask me.

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>Game is full of smurfs
>Valve does jackshit
>Game is full of hackers
>Even if the hacked is detected JUST the next week after a VAC wave, he can still hack for the next 5 months until another VAC wave comes out because valve wants to sell more csgo copies
>VAC waves comes before steam sales
>Autistic gun recoil
>If you are moving the gun shots for 1m away from where you are aiming
>Retarded Kick option
>Most guns are not viable
>Valve went full autistic with FUCKING GLOVES
>Bugs everywhere
>It takes them MONTHS to fix
>Game runs like shit after every patch, now the game gets like 30fps less than what it used to in 2014
>Awful community thanks to "competitive"
>Valve doesn't give a single fuck about anything in the game that doesn't make them money

I could name other things but i can't remember since i try not to, fucking awful game.

>>384393485
>insurgency is better m' boy.
Insurgency feels like shit to play because the TTK is so low.

>>384394039
isn't dota like half an hour killing AI-controlled "creeps" to level up?

never played it

SC is about allocating workers (and if you misclick the mineral patch, it's ragequit time!) and clicking build hotkeys as fast as you can at first too, and it lasts longer than getting in position in CS

>>384394190
what is "TTK"

>>384394068
dont forget the
>no custom sprays
>cant go on FPS banana to get skins
>no bunnyhopping(gimped as fuck)
>random spray patterns
>backpacks and loose clothing being out of the hitbox
>no swedish terroists
>terrorists look generic as fuck
>not being able to pick playermodel
>no mp5 or silenced TMP
>awful t/CT radio voices
>shit map changes for "balance"
>everyone is an asshole
>*use legitimate tactic*
>some niiger calls you out for "not playing fair"
>hacking at the highest level
>having FAZE clan at the top of the food chain
>weak weapon sounds
>no custom content allowed in competitive, the only gamemode with semicopetent players
>valve official servers

>>384394692
Time To Kill

>>384394237
The creep farming has actually a lot of depth to it mechanically and mentally. Last hitting isn't as easy as you might think, you have to decide if it's worth giving up lane to your opponent, trading "shots" with him etc.

For SC - Have you ever seen a pro play? It is humanly impossible to do everything and have downtime. You are also forgetting rushes, scouting etc. It takes quite a *bit* of skill which getting in Position in CS doesn't.

>>384394692
Time to kill. There's no reason to go for headshots in Insurgency because it just increases the odds you'll miss for no real reward.

>>384394876
>>*use legitimate tactic*

I remember when i was top scoring in cobble with a fucking nova shotgun holding drop all the time and they kicked me for "not using real weapons"

>>384379115
at some point you, like me, will realize that all those candy-colored guns look fucking bad and you'll want to go back to all vanilla guns.

>see someone
>point my gun at them
>I shoot them in the head
>they bleed
>they shoot me
>I die
>You dealt: 0 damage

Shit game.

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>CS:GO is RN-
At 130 ping, you're gathering clips from shit servers which is Valves fault because they're cheap faggots.
Also, for the "Muh first bullet accuracy where's muh magic bullet from 1.6" fags, trying to out snipe an AWP with a rifle on long A in Dust 2 is retarded, that's exactly what smokes are for.
Get out of Gold Nova.

>>384395357
Look at Dota 2 or LoL (if you like them or not is irrelevant for now). The Default Skins fit in with paid ones. Someone new to the game wouldn't instantly know which ones are paid or not. The guy using standart skins doesn't seem to be out of place. In CS it's much, much different.

>>384395476
>see someone
>point my gun at them
>I shoot them in the head
>they bleed
Blood is server-sided, post proof.

>>384395713
I've literally had someone ask my about my skins once in CS:GO
"Aw you don't have skins?"
"Lost them betting on pro matches"
"Oh.."
Done.
What bizarro world are most of you faggots living in where you get tormented and kicked for not having an AWP assimov?

>>384395902
>What bizarro world are most of you faggots living in where you get tormented and kicked for not having an AWP assimov?
The /v/ autism chamber.

>>384395834
I stopped playing about a year ago. Hackers were too much.

>>384395357
I still find fucking retarded how people pay thousand of dollars for some fucking knife, same goes for those who spend more than $2 in a gun skin that is literally made of pixels. Shit was basically free back in the day, now you get banned if you mod your csgo

>>384396050
>SEM
>Hackers and smurfs galore, wait until you're on 14 rounds and suddenly play like that aren't garbage.
>Gold nova, MG
>Honest matches full of faggots who are awful
>DMG
>Hackers galore, my team hits 14 rounds, suddenly one guy has the crosshair placement of Shroud.
This is getting tiresome.

>>384396165
Exactly.

>>384395479
>Be told my whole life CS:GO is RNG
>This guy is one tapping people on high ping
N-nani?!

>>384395326
>use mag7 plus smoke to rush them
>get a pentakill
>WOOW DUDE! WHAT THE FUCK???? STOP DOING THAT t.teammates

Wtf? I shot a guy in the head and the game said I missed?
I rek in COD this game is garbo

>>384396050
>>384396165
>Got to LEM before prime and probably got called a hacker at least twice as often as I ever saw actual hackers
I think people really overestimate how many people they encounter are actually hacking.

>>384397004
There is a reason why this game has like 10k VAC ban every VAC wave, its so easy to hack in this game that any top scoring guy can be a hacker, even most in the silver and dmg bracket, the most retarded hack yet is the radar hack, which gives you the game sense of a pro player, without compromising walls or aimbot.

>>384397004
When you discover how to play the game as soon as the enemy hits 14 rounds, and the replay shows you literally staring down an enemy through walls as you peek and you spraying them with 0 reaction time, I think it's safe to say you're cheating.
And you may be surprised to find out most cheaters are the ones to call cheats.
>Kick their ass
>"Hacking faggot"
>Bottom fragger making hackusations suddenly turns into the best player on the server.
Likely fucking story.

>>384368073
Tried to get into csgo. Played a couple hours and realized that every match I joined either had a hacker, some pissed of Russian, a 12 year old with a shitty mic, or some combination of the 3. Couldn't stand it. I can understand the appeal of laughing at these guys but I just didn't have it in me.

CSGO is the game that takes the most skill. You can't argue against that.

Anything that isn't Prime MM is just fucking ruined.
>Hackers in casual for XP
>Hackers in DM for XP
>Hackers in non prime

>>384398152
Why doesn't prime have hackers? It isn't that hard to get hold of a pre paid phone card lol

>>384398315
Prime does have hackers

>>384398413
Yeah I asked why it shouldn't have hackers lol

>>384398289
>New players are going to stop and shoot.
Hahahahahahahaha
The p90 would like to have a word with this guy.

>>384398514
The P90 was shit in 1.6 and CSS though. He was referring to the design process in the beta of CS I think.

>>384398617
Shit players don't change, shitter still ran and shot in a vain effort for kills.
Sounds to me like that guy was asshurt his game died out due to being boring as fuck to watch, sitting on weapon spawns and map control isn't interesting to watch in 1v1s.

>>384398856
And watching 5v5s in witch people sit on mostly the same spots for up to 39 rounds is?

>>384399483
Obviously, in a 1v1 it's all about reads, and being able to bully someone off of a position pretty much hands you the game if you play it properly.
It's MUCH harder to read an entire team, and in team play trade kills are encouraged, so you don't get puss fights with the guy losing HP running away for the health pick up and playing cat and mouse all fucking game.
Team work is also more impressive than individual skill, the communication, trust and mutual skill required is by a magnitude much more amazing than "I read this dude and beat him to le big gun, gg"

Isn't CSGO mostly played by 12 year old russians who can't afford a decent PC?

>>384399785
So by your logic Arma 3 should be a big esport. last time I checked it wasn't.

>>384400142
That's funny, I didn't say that more players= more skill.
At some point it becomes a giant clusterfuck.
1v1 games aren't successful as spectator sports though.
Boxing, UFC, Golf and such get crushed in the wake of team sports.
Fighting games, RTS, and the like get crushed next to team tac FPS and MOBA.
Quake was boring as fuck to watch, therefore the playerbase/revenuebase is small.
Not saying it doesn't take skill, but no one wants to invest in something boring to watch.

>>384399785
I doubt a majority of people watch CSGO matches for the nuances of teamwork.

>>384400403
The pros still need it to win and make the big plays most brainless niggers love to watch, so regardless of their sentiments it's still needed.

>>384398289> We really hate skill based movement like bunnyhopping, but our coding prowess is about on par with our game skills so it's going to take us like 3 years to finally figure out how to remove it

This. The movement was about the only way in 1.6 for good players to sepperate them from bad ones. Thank John Carmack for that (does /v/ even know him?).

>>384382790
>cs:go shooters are trained professionals
then why can't they hit the broad side of a barn with an M4 when firing full auto beyond 50M?

>>384400382
Fair point. I however think that Quake died because it didn't have anything like steam to push it.

>>384400814
I'd probably say it's age was more of a factor.
Blizzard store and Uplay didn't do any favors for Overwatch and Rainbow Six Siege.

>>384400486
Of course. I'm just saying don't play it up as popular for the wrong reasons. CSGO is flashier than Quake, that's why people like it. You could have the most the complex skill-based game ever but if it didn't look entertaining at a glance it wouldn't have a decent following.

>>384400952
Doesn't Overwatch have a decent playerbase? Don't really know about pro matches on OW.
R6 isn't doing that bad, since it has higher system requirements not a lot of People are able to Play if of Course so less People can "identifiy" with it.

>>384375946
Casual is there for a reason, if you don't want to play to win, don't play competitive. Pretty simple.

>>384401015
Well look at chess. The most competitive game ever. The better guy will ALWAYS win. Know anyone who watches professional chess?

>>384368073
>call of duty is garbage
wow, you finally figured it out!

>>384375946
>Call of duty is full of campers
This is one of the reasons I loved AW. The verticality was foreign to so many players and it was so easy to drop on them from above.

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>tfw always the scapegoat because usually lowest scoring player
>not the guy who left 4 matches in and left us with a bot

To anyone saying CSGO isn't full of rng and actually takes skill watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds

>>384401506
Nope. But if chess had explosions I think more people would watch it.

>>384401938
Exactly.

>>384401638
Alternatively, you could just learn to not be a shitty and actually check corners

>>384379223
Most of the newer skins are really meh for me. I decided to sell all of my skins because there's no point, but I really wish there's more better camo skins.

>>384402095
But how am I supposed to go fast then?

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How does one gun piss so many tryhards off?

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>have 1000 hours in it
>CSGO is starting to not get fun after I realize how bad the mechanics are
What happened? After playing other FPS games (Rising Storm 2, Quake Live, etc), I started to notice how bad the gunplay is and how tactics work in this game. It feels like there's no strategy.

>>384403916
Implying csgo has bad gunplay.

>>384403916
Hard to explain what's wrong exactly but i will try.
CS 1.6 at higher skill levels is chess because you get instalkilled for small mistakes. A player might have good personal skill but in general teamwork is the most important factor. But the thing is if you don't have certain skill level you will get shit on by everyone without a chance. On pubs i just run foward with the deagle with zero tactics and one shot headshot people while running, no brain required. Does not work well with normal players though.

with CSGO they tried to even the playing field so that high skilled players can be killed by average people more often. What it led to is a lot of bullshit deaths, retarded spray mechanics and so on.

But seriously if you die to the lag comp in COD and CSGO and you have a lot of bullshit deaths in both, what's the point of torturing yourself with ridiculously stupid spray patterns and shitty graphics of csgo?

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>>384369270
>Plus first shot accuracy sucks on most guns making the game too much rng.
>"I couldn't hit this guy with my shotgun because I can't hit him at the range I started to a fight at, this game has too much RNG"
Not every weapon should be as accurate as a sniper rifle.
Not every weapon should be a viable long-range option.
There are some fights that you shouldn't commit to for many reasons, one factor being what weapons are involved and what range they are at.
Whether or not you must commit to a firefight is either your choice or an opponents, never random.
Stop walking into bad fights.

>>384405659
Shotguns are pretty accurate actually.

>>384405659
you are trying to justify intentional handicaps

if you can hit a headshot from a long distance with a pistol or a rifle you deserve that kill

if someone is so bad with ohk sniper rifle he can't kill you first it's his own fault.

>>384405659
Are you seriously telling me that there should be a chance for an ak to miss at 15 meters? Not taking realism into account just gameplay.

All of you talking shit about CoD:
CoD 4 Pro Mod took quite a bit of skill. Just to let you know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCI6BXma6Ds

CSGO is the best game ever. You all have no idea what you are talking about.

>>384405782
They are, actually, I'm not going to lie. I've gotten headshots with shotguns from SMG distance. Granted they probably didn't have armor but the point still stands that shotguns are good at what they're designed for.

>>384406050
>you are trying to justify intentional handicaps
That you place upon yourself by buying an inaccurate weapon.
>if you can hit a headshot from a long distance with a pistol or a rifle you deserve that kill
Then what is the point of the Scout? What niche does it fill? It's strong, but fires so slowly you'd be better off with an AK in a game where every gun had perfect accuracy. If you've good aim, scopes are a meme, and you can land shots at long range with rifles without need for a scope. If all these things are true, then the Scout is fucking useless. But they aren't. The Scout is cheap and is completely accurate when fired properly. The AK doesn't, and shouldn't, invalidate the Scout. Deagles and AKs are accurate, yes, to a point, and that point is where a sniper rifle would be preferable and you are deliberately making the risk to fight at the point of which your weapon isn't as good. It already has falloff damage, telling you that your gun isn't a good idea at the range you're trying to use it in. Why are you so perplexed at fall-off accuracy?
That said, there are good rifles and pistols for long range. Usually, it deliberately specifies their accuracy, like on the Deagle. Stop trying to snipe with Dualies, they're not meant to work at that range and you getting killed because of it is the game functioning as intended.

>>384406223
There should be a chance that an AK doesn't work at a range of which it's not supposed to work. Not 15 meters, but I think the issue with that is the fucky hitboxes rather than the AK's inaccuracy at 15 meters.

>>384407352
I'm not talking about shotguns in CSGO, I'm talking irl.

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>Miss 15 meter shot, well within AK accuracy
>"That was the inaccuracy, fucking RNG"
There's a point where you need to realize you're probably fucking trash and missing your shots, even pros miss easy shots, but acting like every missed shot is because of something in the game and not you is fucking childish, 15 meters, with an AK, are you for real kid?

>>384407849
I asked if there should a CHANCE to miss at 15 meters with the ak. There is a CHANCE in the game by 5%. Learn to read.

Posting this for the 3rd time now ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds

>>384408273
So how about them crouch stats?
I mean, you do crouch right? If your aim is dead on accurate 100% of the time why even use the extra mobility? Crouching would make you much more accurate.

I like CS:GO and there isn't anything /v/ can say to stop me!

>>384408660
Corch stats are shit too.
1. Create a Server
2.Open your console
3. Type "cl_weapon_debug_show_accuracy 1"
4.Crouch
5. See that it doesn't improve by a lot

>>384409030
So why don't you make a crouch stats cid and shill that here too?
Nothing stopping you, hell you might make a discovery on why the same groups of people manage to win matches despite this completely random game.
Do they turn RNG off for pros?

>>384409147
Did I say that the game is completely random? No, I said that single shot accuracy is. Ever sse a pro tap firing? Sure Scream does it a lot but he makes him self a hard target by making very small side steps (there was a video about this on YouTube, if I can find it I'll post it.)
Don't act all butthurt because I proved you wrong.
There are other ways for good Players to seperate themselves of Course (nades, Teamwork etc).
But Shooting does not belong to that. Which is a critical flaw for a game that is a lot about shooting.

>>384409147
>So why don't you make a crouch stats cid and shill that here too?

Btw I didn't make the video

>>384385527
Source was so much better than GO. I hate condition zero with a passion though

>>384409819
"I missed a shot"
"Well probably not because inaccuracy"
"THERE'S A 5% CHANCE, SEE, NOW EVERY 800 UNIT SHOT IS INACCURACY, BUTTHURT?"
Holy shit sperg.

>>384410035
1.6 was shit. Source was shit. CSGO might be the best of the bunch.

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>>384368073

You also forgot the part where you sell things you get in game for fuckloads of steambucks. I'll never have to use my credit card again on steam.

>>384410076
You don't get the whole picture. This could cost a round or two for a team, which isn't exactly great when the prize pool is about a million bucks.

>>384410289
You get a drop every like what? 5 Hours? Usually sells for like $0.03. Either you are a liar, got a Dragon lore (we all know this doesn't happen) or you have no life.

CSGO is the best game ever. You can't argue.

>>384410384
So why not AWP if they're able to hit 100% dead on shots?
Or just use the scoped rifles?
These things mitigate these probabilities but pros don't buy scoped rifles usually, I wonder why that is?

>>384410569

Regardless of what I did, you're pretty upset.

Truth is I bought team stickers for a dollar a pop when they first came out. They're worth 20-50x that now. Plenty of drops that were unspectacular have appreciated in value. I have a negev (a terrible weapon, mind you) worth $50. The game gives you ample ways to MAKE money while you play. Whenever they release a new case, hop on and see if you can get it to drop. Half the time it will for an easy $20. Hell, even if you never get that lucky, the game is going to give you money. Whether it be from those drops, from easily bought and sold stickers that they offer you, or buying operations when they come out and getting 1 or 2 case drops over time.

According to steam I've spent $150 on the game, literally all of that coming from the game itself.

>>384394190
The game doesn't feel like shit at all. Gunplay is fluid as fuck and people actually die when they are being shot at, it's great.

>>384411413
Yeah I get upset when people are lying. Nice catch there.
So you invested money. You didn't make money by playing the game.

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>>384411662
"You didn't make money because you PLAYED it, haha, got you, you only made money because of the game! Liar liar!!!!"

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It's a pretty fun game. Global MM is a joke though. I usually play FaceIt nowadays.

>>384411254
Because scoped rifles are more expensive. They'd rather have $300 for a smoke grenade.
Btw, do you even Play the game? This is not matchmaking, if every Player bought an AWP theyd be broke as fuck.
Thing is that those pros don't trust their weapons, they trust smokes, flashes, outplays etc. Kinda like in poker - don't trsut the Cards.
Kind of a bad idea for a shooter imo.

>>384411780
You don't need to play the game to invest into items. Not even sure if you Need to own it.
If you'd be smarter you coul've invested into real estates or shit lol, Kind of a bigger payout don't you think? But I guess as a 12 year old you invest into csgo items paid by moms credit Card right?

>>384411913
"Why save money to remove probability? They buy smokes for that"
"Now don't you see why probability is such a big problem! There's literally no way to get a consistent game!"
Stop, please

>>384412193
What? I literally said the way to get consistent is to use smokes, flashes, outsmart the Opponent etc. The weapons are inaccurate as fuck. You can't deny that. Or are you denying math itself lol?

>>384411662

I sure did. A lot of that is from drops. In fact a ton of what I've made isn't even showed there because I immediately sold whatever I got and used those steambux on another video game.

>>384412078

Are you braindead? Yea let me just use this imaginary currency to buy real estate for less than $1k.

>>384411879
You could've used that time to study. Maybe you'd not be working a deadbeat Job by now.

>>384412375
>Complain about how inaccuracy can cost you a round
>Goes to explain that pros don't buy the scoped weapons, instead buy 300$ smokes to mitigate this
>"B-but the guns are inaccurate"
So you're going to talk in circles until I stop responding, aight man, thanks for playing.
CS:GO will enjoy being the biggest PC FPS right now.

>>384412561
And Justin Bieber is listened to by millions of People. Is he a great artist now? I don't think so.
Do you even Play the game? Smokes and flashes are the way to go.

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>>384368073
>cs
>fps dumbed down to the bare minimum to appeal to a wider audience like mobas to rts
>drove old fps off the market with its massive popularity spawning tons of imitators, also like mobas to rts
>popularized almost all the mechanics people dislike about cod and other modern shooters

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>>384412826
>popularized almost all the mechanics people dislike about cod and other modern shooters
Being in a military uniform?

>>384412949
"realism" dictating game design
limited weapon selection
slow movement
punishing the player for fast movement

>>384412949
Shitty movement, all weapons are essentially the same etc.

>>384412826
>fps dumbed down to the bare minimum to be actually competitive
fixed that for you faam

>>384413124
>quake isn't competitive
slow baby detected

>>384413124
Quake is way more competitive than CS.
In fact, maybe try out a real competitive game? Starcraft, Dota 2 ... Chess.

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>>384368073
>CSGO
>fun

>>384413321
Talking about rng. Or shitty hitboxes. Whatever.

>>384413321
that's what you get for using the tryhard static crosshair

>>384413321
>Having aim THIS SHIT
kekkles

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>>384413213
>>384413263

Don't you need competitions to be competitive?

>>384413263
>Quake is way more competitive than CS.
>way more
Broodwar still has relevant tournaments, quake doesn't

>>384413460
His first shot should've been a hit. It was perfectly lined up.
And how do you Play CSGO without being a tryhard?Kinda not the Point right?

>>384413589
his crosshair was right of the other guy's head and all of his shots veered off into walls
it's intentional though, git gud

>>384413321
Holy shit, is this really what csbabies consider competitive? It all makes sense now, low skill ceiling games sell like hotcakes.

>>384413645
Because Dota 2 and frickin *Chess* is played less than CSGO

>>384413645
There's a big Quake 3 tournament every year at Quake Con with cash prizes.

>>384413673
Ehem ... yes. CS = Counterstrike

>>384368073
Call of Duty is much more fun than CSGO thought?

>>384368073
>1.6 and sourcefags saying that they removed bunnyhopping

CS:GO has the hardest to master skill-based movement in the whole series. Bunnyhops are still in the game but are much more harder to pull of consistently. Same with skill-jumps such as Mirage window to cat etc.

I bet none of you faggots ever played hnsmod or kreedz.

>>384413321
>Being actually this nova

Deagle recoil doesn't reset that fast. He should have been crouching and shooting a bit faster and he would have gotten the kill.

git gud :^)

>>384414118
No and why should we? CS sucks.
And yes, CSGO is the best of the series, they are still shit. It's like comparing 3 turds and saying one is the best. Might be, but it's still shit.

>>384414378
First shot should've been a kill already. The game sucks.

>>384414378
this
if you don't know how to use deagle don't buy it and stick to kek9 or fiveseven
both are noob friendly

>>384414118
Bunnyhopping wasn't supposed the be in the game in the first place. The just suck at coding and couldn't remove that turning the QUake 1 engine into GoldSource and then they reused so much Code in source that it ended up in there as well.

>>384414378
I don't play low skill garbage like CSGO, let alone play shitter roulette: match me with retards.

>>384414876
CSGO is the game with the highest skill cap there is. You're just shit.

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>>384415112

CSGO is so inconsistent that a pro gets owned by random Players. What a bad game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDf6UmkwS-k&t=1055s

>>384413321
That's because he jumped, the old jumping accuracy mechanics meant if you jumped you had to wait a few seconds before you received full accuracy again.

Valve fixed this in 2016 though and made it a lot less obnoxious.

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>>384416170
k

>>384416514
Lmao being this silver. That's because this guy doesn't have an expensive Skin. You have to have a Skin that's at least $25 if you want to hit your Targets. Noob lol

>>384416514
That one was definitely pure horseshit.

As another anon has posted in the thread, the AK's accuracy is pretty pathetic, it's mathematically proven to be a garbage gun.

When I come home from middle school first thing I do is play a match of cs go. It's a great game.

>200 competitive matches won
>Still GN1

Send help

>>384417529
Buy a good game instead

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>>384378018

Holy fuck I didn't know /v/ was this bad at FPS games.

>>384417957
This

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>>384416514
>"Look at all this RNG!"
>Gets 1 clicked by a fucking shotgun

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>>384419649
>"Look at all this RNG!"
>Guy next to him hits a jackpot on his slot machine

>>384420659
Direct me to the pro slot machine players.

>>384422980
http://www.slottournaments.com/guides/tournament-strategy.htm

Look, it's just like a CSGO tournament!

>>384423494
I asked for pros though.
Preferably ones that have won as many jackpots as theCS:GO pro has won tournaments.
I'll wait.

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CS:GO is great, I have a lot of fun in it. Vid related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpo_OJTKNg

>cant spray
>awp is 1 shot kill
>AK is fucking broken compared to m4's
>the classic sounds have changed which is a big put off
>game cares more about competitiveness then being actually fun
>everyone including those on ESEA are a bunch of god damn babies
>tap firing is encourged but god forbid if it hits
>you could put your crosshair on the enemies heads and it still won't hit
>netcode is actual god damn trash
only good thing cs:go has is the fact that the hit boxes are cylindrical which allow for more accurate hit boxes.

>>384415814
>shroud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvOhirn0LxQ
he should've toggled xd

>>384424418
First batch of kids sound like they're enjoying it which really takes the fun out of it for me.

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>>384423632
Here ya go, champ. I guess you could compare him to flusha.

Or were you looking more along the lines of invite-only tournaments where teams are statistically more likely to win more than once because there's only a handful of the same ones every time, aka manufactured esports?