Warhammer

>>384362837
Right now I want some more Greenskin flying units and anti large units.
Boar boy big'uns are terrible right now, and Azhag/warbosses get rekt in the air unsupported.
Since they can invent their own units, I'd like to see flying squigs. Maybe Wurzag was muckin' about, or maybe Skarsnik found a way to breed them, but they fit the faction perfectly

>>384362837
Norsca didn't have lore?

>>384363381

It never had an official army book or unit list. They were just a small part of the Warriors of Chaos army.

Meaning CA has to invent new units or create them from existing lore to create the army.

>>384362837
>what kind of factions are you hoping to see?
not like they're going to invent new factions

>>384362837
It look fucking rad.

>>384363649
I wonder if they have the balls to introduce the Fimir.
I could forgive all the shekel farming if they did that

>>384363887
Already introduced.

>>384363887

Fimir are part of the Norsca DLC.

>>384363954
>bumping an active thread

>>384363887
Fimir are in

>>384362837
They look like vikings, pretty cool

>>384363649
I'm okay with this

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>>384363887

Look at the left side.

>>384363649

If they do it right that sounds like they're doing more for Warhammer than CA has in years.

>>384363649
You fucking what? Norsca had lore and models. It just, by the end of WHFB, was largely merged into Warriors of Chaos. You gonna start moaning that Nippon gets a faction because you're a newfag not around when they had rules and models? KYS.

They should add in those fantasy Poles.

>>384364281

When did I complain? I'm happy about it you retard.

>>384364242
>CA
You mean GW and GW didn't because WHFB wasn't even in the Top 5 wargame sellers until it became AoS.

TOMBKINGS!
goddamnit

>>384363649
>Norsca had no models
What do you think chaos warriors are?

>>384364305
They need to save something for the 3rd game.
No where near as many will care for the Chaos Daemons as they do Elves, so the 3rd game will have to be a lot of shit aside from the Daemons, including Kislev and the Ice Queen.

>>384364242
I feel like Games Workshop is letting them run with Warhammer now because they don't give a fuck

>>384364393
First dlc maybe?

>>384364360
But nothing they've created has not been mentioned in the fluff somewhere. CA also has access to GW's original model designs that never got produced. Like Knight Squires.

>>384364380
>WHFB army costs more then a mortgage in some parts of the world
Why no sell? I know needs more space marines.

>>384364438
Some warriors of chaos are from norsca, but not all of them, like kurgans.

>>384364473

>Meaning CA has to invent new units or create them from existing lore to create the army
>create them from existing lore to create the army
>from existing lore

>>384364393
Tomb Kangz is confirmed for 3rd expansion.

>>384363649
>or unit list
Tamurkhan: Throne of Chaos. Fuck off newfag.

NAGASH FUCKING WHEN?

>>384364603
Except Norsca did have official unit lists, and lore, so don't spout utter shite.

>>384364543
Wow, a hobby that's not needed to survive as a human.. COST MONEY? FUCKING WOW OMG.

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>>384363948
>>384364003
>>384364063
>>384364240
Holy shit, the absolute madmen

>>384364628
halfway into TWW2

>>384363887
>>384364720
Whats a Fimir?

>>384364953
monsters that reproduce by literal rape

>>384364380
>CA
>GW

Shit, my mistake.

>>384364380
WHFB's decline was a self fulfilling prophecy.
Blob focus, lack of marketing and advertising combined with bloated costs barred new entrants.

>>384364953
Rape fish.
Not even memeing.

>>384365093
gnarly

>>384364617

Tamurkhan had units, not a full army list

>>384364701

Post it then faggot. And I literally never said they didn't have lore you mouthbreather

>>384364240
Is that the troll king?
Holy shit.

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>>384362837
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT

>>384365325
The fimir are famous for not giving a shit about consent

>>384362837
This is literally what the majority of chaos players were calling for. Awesome to bad its "free" DLC if you preorder yet again.

How does this change WoC?

>>384364240
T R O L L K I N G

>>384365284
TROLL KING VS GROMBRINDAL GRUDGE MATCH WHEN?!?!?

>>384365119
2 of these point cover 40k though.

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>>384365554

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Can we all agree that the Karl Franz I, Protector of the Empire, Defier of the Dark, Emperor Himself and the Son of Emperors, Elector Count of Reikland and Prince of Altdorf is the best husbando?

>>384365684
no bully pls

>>384365802
grimgor best boy

>>384365943
He doesn't have the Karl smile though

>>384365325
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

Is there a Dogs of War/Tilea faction?
I'd love me some Da Vinci themed artillery and sieges.

>>384366017
He's the best at what he does.

>>384366526
No, but there's expansive mods for it.
Look into Cataph's Southern Realms. Also works with Steel Faith Overhaul.

Age of Sigmar > Fantasy

>>384366756
Nice. Shame there is nothing official tho.
Estalia/Tilea are some of the best factions talking about units and lore.

>>384366597
Who remembers when Grimgor fucking decked Archaon?

>>384365802
>Malekith and Tirion coming.
It's already over monkey.

>>384366984

>GW bitched out and made Grimgor lose because they can't have their poster boy being shit on by an orc

>>384366962
Are there any books/overviews of them? The only mention of them was in the Bretonnian army book from here http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Batt

>>384363649
There was a list for Norscans fighting in Lustria, it was in white dwarf 10+ years ago,

>CA confirmed they will be making at least 3 TW:W titles
>TW1 had good ideas but felt a lot more empty compared to Attila
>they will still include a $3 blood DLC cash grab

With this is mind, give me a reason why I shouldn't just skip 2 entirely and wait for the third game, which they would assumingly do a better job on than 1 and 2?

>>384367061
>GW bitching out of events when they always go the opposite way to what they expected.
Eldrad died for this.

>>384367092
Because they're fun and pirating exists.

>>384367092
you just need the blood DLC for a single title.
If you have blood in 1 you will have blood in 2

>>384366984
Wasn't it a headbutt?
>This is no longer canon

>>384366996
Tyrion has literally no personality though. Malekith is an excellent husbando though and did nothing wrong.

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>>384366984
>>384367061
>GW thought orcs would ally with Chaos
>instead Grimgor waltzed into the middle of their fight with the Empire, kicked Archaon in the balls and fucked off
I fucking love orc players sometimes

>>384367092

TWW has much more content than Attila. I love both games but you're kidding yourself if you think 19 barbarian/Germanic factions is more diverse than the races in Warhammer.

>>384367092
Skaven and lizard men? The elves? 2 is going to have the best factions.

Who's going to be the new factions in 3? Kangz and deamons?

>>384367092
any guess about the location of the third game?
I'd love some tomb kings and expansion for the southern realms.

>>384367321
Warhammer 3 will probbaly have the 4 daemon armies, Ogre kingdoms, and Chaos Dwarfs.

Kangz are Warhmmer 2.

>>384367321
Daemons, Chaos Warriors getting overhauled, Chaos Dwarves, Ogre Kingdoms, Kislev

>>384367321
ogres maybe?

>>384366962
>>384367073
nvm, now I've learned what Dogs of War is

>>384367321
>>384367376
>>384367382
Kislev is they aren't added earlier

>>384367092
>why I shouldn't just skip 2 entirely and wait for the third game
combined map that will span 3 games

>>384366817

Sir, are you looking for a fight?

>>384367472
Kislev, being a buffer for the Chaos, makes more sense in the Chaos/Daemon centered game. They would feel out of place added in TWW2.

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>>384367439
I want my da vinci themed wop army

needs more waifus

>>384367472

Kislev? Why give the Chaos fodder a fancier unit roster

Needs less waifus.

>>384367327
Tomb Kings are in the second game, will be the first or second expansion race. Second game has Southlands, and they will likely pull a Wood Elves and make their area surrounded by a sandstorm or something.

Third game will be East of the Old World for Chaos Dwarves and Ogre Kingdoms, and North into more of the Chaos wastes

>>384362837
>>384363649
Fucking awesome. For future minor factions, Araby and Dogs of War could be done in the second game.

The game has done so well that GW is giving the permission to expand races outside the main 16.

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>>384367092
Warhammer is the only TW I've played through on campaign with every faction. Usually I play two campaigns and leave it at that. You simply cannot argue that the factions in previous Total War games offer the same variety as Warhammer.

>>384367376

I haven't been following Warhammer 2 closely but aren't the Tomb Kings on the wrong side of the world for 2?

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>>384367642
But it's already introduced the ultimate waifu.

>>384367720
Bear priests with actual bears.

>>384367327
Probably the darklands for ogres and chaos manlets

>>384367720
Because I want Hussars and they already gave dead factions like Bretonnia and Norse armies

>>384367769
No, Warhammer 2 has Naggaroth, Ulthuan, Lustria, and the southlands as playable areas.

>>384367321

My guesses -

>Warhammer 2 release
- Dark Elves, Skaven, Lizards, High Elves
>DLC
- Tomb Kings
- Clan Pestilens
- Araby
- Southern Realms

>Warhammer 3 release
- Chaos rework
- Host of Nurgle
- Host of Tzeentch
- Host of Khorne
- Host of Slaanesh
- Chaos Undivided (Archaon can confederate with other Chaos factions, including Beastmen and Skaven)
>DLC
- Ogres
- Chaos Dwarves
- Kislev

>>384367769
2 has Ulthuan, Nagg, Lustria AND Southlands. Skaven will probably start in Southlands which is why they haven't talked about it,

>>384367738
>High/Dark Elves
>Lizardmen
>Skaven
>Kangz

What other factions could there be? If it's going to be Araby Ill be mad.

>>384367929

Tilea and Estalia have colonies in the new world. Southern Realms is likely.

There's also undead pirates and Amazons.

>>384367538
Would make sense for them to be added with Norsca, especially with the ice theme they're going for

>>384367092
You should wait until all 3's DLC is out and then buy it all on sale. Anyone who tells you not to wait is either a shill or love jew cock up their ass.

>>384367842
bretonnia faction is basically med 3 with some magic mods. I fucking love it

>>384367738
I'm worried they're not going to do them justice on the map, 2 already has ulthuan, lustria and naggaroth adding the soulthans too would make the map massive.

>>384367916
What does Slaanesh have that could constitute an army? Id argue CA are going to have Khorne/Tzeentch/Nurgle armies along with Kislev as the starting factions and then add on Slaanesh like with Bretonnia.

>>384367871
>>384367925

Oh damn, didn't hear a thing about the Southlands. Honestly figured CA was going to make the Skaven a bonus for 1 if you bought 2.

>>384367916
>third game completely based on chaos stuff
pretty one sided, desu.

>>384368135
Well TWW1 still has the Old Friend Free-DLC, so it could be Kislev. Norsca is also coming with its own Free-DLC

>>384368204
Just like my tabletop then. Fuck you GW.

>>384367312
I wouldn't say that. They did great with the legendary lord skill system, but they also fell short on a LOT:

>Siege battles only one-dimensional for every single map
>trade/diplomacy system is very bare (which does make sense from a lore perspective, but still)
>no food worries
>public order really is only a bother on legendary
A lot of this I'm fussing about because I enjoy the map strategy of TW a lot. It just didn't feel as engaging in TWW as it has for others.

I won't make a point for sea battles because they've always been a meme since Empire. I honestly don't know how to fix that.

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Does anybody have the image of Thorgrim kicking a goblin with the "smelly dumb grobi scum" caption? Id appreciate it if anybody posted it.

>>384367301
Wait the orc players decided that as the lore and GW had to go along with it?

>>384367929
>>384367925

>Arab friend can't get into Warhammer because Araby only exists to get crusaded and Tomb KANGed on
>Now they get ate by rats
fucking hilarious

>>384368161
They said its roughly the same size as the Old World map, but double the settlements.

>>384368262
Siege battles are a joke. I like TWW, but there's no defending how banal they are.

Would be really cool if they implemented some of the factions which haven't been a thing since the 6th ed or something, I will probably never play WHFB again but really like the setting. Just go full fanboy with the game world. I haven't played Total Warhammer yet though.

>>384368309
Well, the Arabyans initiated an invasion of the southern realms. So they had it coming.

>>384368330
>>384368262
The big problem with siege battles, and naval battles, is every single game has had shit siege battles and the games that had naval combat had shit naval combat. They attempted to make sieges better but its kinda 50/50 for me.

I still think Shogun 2 sieges are worse

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>Wulfrik the Wanderer
>Throgg the Troll King

My dick can't get any harder.

>>384368324
4 continents the same size as the old world map when all 4 of said continents are bigger then the old world on their own.
I'm scared now.

>Total War Warhammer 1
-empire
-dwarves
-vampire counts
-greenskins
-chaos
-beastmen
-wood elves
-bretonnia
>total war warhammer 2
other 8 faction i guess
>total war warhammer 3
ditto

am i doing this right?

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>>384368309
I can never get into the aesthetics of Arab inspired armies generally. I'm glad they get left out for the more interesting factions to get fleshed out.

I think Gerudos are the only "arabic" faction I've ever been able to appreciate.

>>384368564
hod could anyone know?

>>384368613
Shame, because arab theme stuff if done properly and not politically tainted could be fantastic.

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>>384368564
Wrong franchise, m8.

>>384368262
The sea battles should be playable and utilize sea monsters like Age of Mythology did.

>>384368164

Sigvald, the Masque, Daemonettes, Keeper of Secrets, Seekers, Heralds, Mounted Daemonettes, Seeker Chariots, Fiends + regular units like Marauders, Warriors and Chosen.

No idea the logic in fleshing out Chaos but leaving one quarter of it out for no reason.

>>384368564
holy shit this prediction is perfect

>>384368492
They made the sieges one wall and the ai still can't do it.
You can tell they programmed the campaign ai to only ever attack a walled settlement to as a last resort.
It will only attack if you're outnumbered like 4 to one and it can't starve you out.
TWW is a great game but it's pretty easy to break by building walls everywhere so the bitch ai can't just run around you and snipe settlements.

>>384368307
The idea was to have a series of battles and decide the next lore step from there.
Only problem was that the Chaos armies got the shit kicked out of them because the orcs didn't want to ally with them, so GW threw the whole thing out and wrote the end times

>>384367842
wait bretonnia is dead?

>>384368307
There was a summer-long chaos vs good campaign where players would send in their battle results to GW. At the end of it the results they got showed somehow that Archaon got headbutted by Grimgor. They didn't like that result so they just retconned it.

As far as I can remember this is what happened. The campaign was called Storm of Chaos I believe if you want further info.

>>384368447
Just like in real life

>>384368613
I dig Arabic aesthetics, like act 2 in Diablo 2. Araby is just retarded.

>>384368739
GW is trying to write slaanesh out of the fluff because titty deamons means timmy's mum won't spend as much on his space wolves.
Why do you think the eldar death god woke up and slaanesh is mia in AoS?

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>>384368690
If they ever did an Arabic faction it would have to just be absurd for me to get into it. Flying carpet flying cavalry and artillery that throws pots of poisonous snakes, Djin that come out of little oil lamps, that kind of stuff.

>>384368868
not really, it's just a meme

>>384367916
>- Chaos Undivided (Archaon can confederate with other Chaos factions, including Beastmen and Skaven)

in warhammer fantasy skaven dont belong to chaos. they joined them in age of sigmar if i am correct.

>>384368262

I won't disagree that the campaign map is simpler and the siege battles completely suck compared to Attila, though there's a pretty major mod pack out which re-added proper cities as well as town battles to pretty much every settlement in the game.

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=877551324

The battles are much funner than Attila in my opinion.

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>>384368962
>>384368613
the fuckin' entire Arab/Persian aesthetic of Guild Wars: Nightfall

>look up Araby
>flying carpets
I was planning to laugh at a dumb sounding faction, but now I really want to play as them.

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>mfw Games Workshop doesn't give a fuck about Warhammer Fantasy anymore and CA is our last way of getting any games in it

That new CEO GW got a few years ago was one of the worst things to happen.

>>384368934
This happens with every campaign. It happened in 40k too.
GW wanted more grim derp but the eldar kicked in everyone's shit and they just killed off eldar anyway and gave the blackstone fortresses to chaos because.

>>384369005

That's true, but they also wrote out Fimir (and WHFB in general) and yet here we are. The target audience for AoS and Total Warhammer are different.

>>384365802
You forgot greatest statesman
How many titles does this dude have?

>>384369056

In the End Times Archaon's host could field Skaven.

>>384369013
What you described is basically part of their old roster. http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Araby
The models are whacky but the concept is fun

>>384369005
As if, the lore around the new genestealer cults is dark as fuck. I don't think GW are baby-fying the series.

Frankly GW have been doing way better recently in regards to listening to fans.
(I am not being paid to post this)

>>384368817
>>384368934
Hahaha that's fucking hilarious, GW hate fun huh

>>384369206
Eldar are wiped out now? What happened?

>>384362837
>Norsca is for the Norsc xD

So this might become a monkey paw wish because GW, but with the success of TW:W is GW thinking of throwing Warhammer Fantasy a bone with the tabletop?

>>384368307
Check it out on the 1d4chan wiki, it's called Storm of Chaos and it ended up pretty funny.

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I hope that pretty boy isn't Wulfrik the Wanderer because he looks like a Slaanesh-worshipping pussy.

>>384369434
Probably not unless they decide to re-release some old models, but there is a new warhammer fantasy roleplay thing coming out

>>384369421
This was a long time ago, That campaign was a a large part of why everything was so bleak until The eldar woke up rowboat.

>>384369421
Naw, their god was born but she loves Primarch dick more than she loves the Eldar.

>>384369428
fus ro dah xD

Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFKNudZuWM

>>384369129
>flying carpet cavalry engaging Pegasus knights
FUND IT

>>384369421

They became the Imperium's waifu.

>>384369129
>>384369765
fuck you guise. I FUCKING WANT IT

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Okay, factions which never got a codex are now playable,

Which else do you want?
>Araby
>Cathay
>Nippon

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>>384369510
What are you talking about? Wulfrik and Throgg are both confirmed

>>384369473

I need to rewatch that movie.

>>384369723
>spent more time with alliteration than the battle plan

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>>384369723
>sensational servant of SLAAAANEEESH
Talk shit about CA all you want but they pulled the writing and voice acting out of the bag for this one. Its great that they were allowed to just ham it up, it really fits in with the crazy over the top battles of the Total War series.

>historicalfags want all this fun to end

>>384369887
I don't want this I trust GW but no company now has enough racism left in them to make new factions of humans cool like 80s GW.

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>>384369923
I'm just saying their idea of Wulfrik looks like ass.

Picture related: the real Wulfrik.

>>384369923

He's complaining because they made Wulfrik look like a regular guy whereas the tabletop model portrays him as a mutated freak.

>>384369887
Nippon alongside Eshin release

>>384369685
Please stop that fanfiction. You know it's not true.

>>384369887
Ind and Southlands, I guess. There isn't anything else left.

>>384369887
I really don't want them to go any further east than Ogre Kingdoms.

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>>384369887
>Nippon
>Samurai and kappa armies

>>384370170

Aside from looking more grumpy and grey, he looks about the same.

I just want to raid Albion

>>384370197
the TT is supposed to make him more distinct looking in a tiny scale.

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>>384370412
IF OUR ELECTOR COUNT IS TO BECOME SHOGUN, MILITARY RULES OF ALL NIPPON

>>384362837
I think that is a step in the right direction.
give us more of those old, long abandoned but not forgotten mini factions.
bring back Kislef, Tilea and Estalia as well in form of a Dogs of War faction

>>384370170
He looks almost exactly the same anon. I don't know what your going on about.

>>384370585
I think the addition of Norsca is a bit silly, but it does give me hope for Chaos Dwarfs so I won't complain. The precedent has clearly been set.

>>384369887
I want Nippon to be an exact replica of one of the clans from Shognun 2.

>>384369887
There is no way they add anything East of Ogre Kingdoms, there is nowhere to fit it on the map.

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>>384369005
>>384369210
GW announced a Slaanesh Start Collecting! box for AoS a few days ago, and Forge World's Fimir models were released after AoS was, if I remember rightly. They're on the same level as Chaos Dwarfs: obscure, but not written out of the game.

>>384370751
>beautiful smooth skin, lotioned daily
>immaculate haircut, probably done by a famous elven stylist
>groomed and well-combed beard
he looks like a nonce m8

>>384370946
Chaos dwarves have their own roster, so it's expected that they'll be added. Alongside the Ogre Kingdoms.

>>384370946
don´t worry Chaos Dwarfs are 100% gonna make it into the 3rd and final game.
it´s probably going to be chaos dwarfs, demons of chaos and ogre kingdom as the original big three
even the leaks showed of choas dwarfs

Playable Kislev fucking when????/

>>384371118
what´s so special about Fimir?
they just seem like lesser, one eyed trolls yet for some reason the warhammer community really likes them. so much that they made two difrent fan army books for them

>>384371326
maybe this dlc is gonna come with a few Kislev units considering that they are both north based

>>384371379
>Fimir society is divided into a caste system, consisting of Meargh, the Dirach, the warriors, and the Shearl. The Meargh - also known as witch-hags - are the leaders of Fimir colonies, as well as the only females.[1] A Meargh would typically also be a very powerful user of magic. The Dirach - described as "daemon-friends" - are a caste of wizards specialising in the worshipping of Daemons. The warrior caste - consisting of Fimm (warriors), Fianna Fimm (elite warriors), and the various nobles - take the brunt of raiding and fighting. The Shearls - the slaves of a Fimir settlement - exist only to work and die. The ruling Meargh hold the clans together. In the event of a Meargh's death, the Fimir of her stronghold separate, either working as mercenaries for other evil creatures or seeking out another clan to join. However the Meargh is sterile and therefore unable to breed. So as to replenish their numbers the Fimir kidnap young fertile human women to use as breeding stock.

They are rape monsters

>>384371379
Discontinued WH armies and less touched upon creatures of the lore have always had loyal fanboys. Chaos Dwarfs, Squats and so on. Nostalgia plays a part probably but obscure parts of the world are often fan favorites in any fantasy world because they leave more to the imagination and the lack of official stuff encourages fan creations.

>frost wyrms
>already present undead faction.

sheeit, at this point we can make a comfy Warcraft 3 esque Undead faction in total war for shits and giggles.

>>384370946
As anons said, dw. Chaos Dwarves have a really big and varied roster and Forge Worlds models, they had a 5x chance of being included more so than the fimir. I'm almost positive a doubter said "we'll get chaos manlets when we get fimir lol" during TWW's early period.

>>384372158
>Total War: Azeroth

>>384370274
Piss off, Carnac.
Nobody cares

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>>384362837
this video makes it look like they hunt chaos, but i thought norsca was part of chaos...

>>384372621
Chaos works in mysterious ways.

>>384372621
It's not like they were attacking chaos warriors. Just feral beasts.

>>384372342
Id play it

>>384372621
Most norscans directly worship the chaos gods but chaos being chaos leads to infighting.
Some norscans worship their old gods which are the chaos gods in disguise and are more neutral.

>>384372621
Only when they leave their communities to join a warband.

>>384363649
>yfw a new faction for kislev is possible
>yfw a new faction for araby is possible
>yfw a new faction for cathay is possible

holy shit, introduce something the gameKIKEshop never do has to be the most neckbeardy thingy we have never seem. CA deserves all our money.

>pledge allegiance to a specific god by raising monuments
>each of the 4 gods give different benefits
>the other 3 you don't pick get jealous
>this is the start and eventual end of their victory conditions
Really cool that just like Bretonnia they are giving factions interesting victory conditions. Wish some of these would survive into co-op.

>>384372342
they'd ruin it with all the lore that came after vanilla

>>384371710

Weren't the Beastmen also rape monsters?

>>384372946
that makes sense. for a second i thought they were fucking with norsca and making them an old world grey knights/fenris faction.
while that would be cool id be kinda upset.

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ASININE MORTALS

>>384372621

Given the nature of Chaos there's a lot of infighting.

>>384372342
It would probably be an amazing game but I doubt Blizzard would lend their IP

>>384369301
and future god

>>384372621
Norsca is only forced allies with chaos in campaign modes to make it so that the AI chaos aren't BTFO as soon as they show up. Otherwise, it should be more like the swords of chaos and norsca are neutral or slightly averse, unless chaos decides to subjugate them

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>>384365802
You know who I am

>>384373418
>>384372621
>turn 80-100 when playing Dwarves/Greenskins
>2 full stacks of Norsca land in the Badlands
Jesus christ I can't imagine how annoying 2 stacks of new units will be.

>>384373521

>It's all charriots
>The leaders name is Southern Ek

>>384373418

That's not quite true. All Norscans are Chaos-aligned, it's just that some aren't aware they're worshipping Chaos and think they're just worshipping benevolent gods. The majority of them are still bloodthirsty savages who followed Archaon.

>>384373521
>At least it wont be 18 chariots a lord and a sorc.
Oh look my finely tuned late game army of the best units my faction has loses half it's units no exceptions because I didn't bring 20 spears.

>>384369301
less than he deserves and more than he needs.

>>384373141
Used to be. The early Gotrek and Felix novels allude to it heavily
It got toned down significantly though

>>384369305
end times was like AoS light, to see if they could get away with going full derp.

>No really, malekith is the true phoenix king after all, asuryan was just drunk that day, no biggy.

>>384373059
Honestly? I agree. This is a pretty amazing move considering the current, profit hungry, market-tested, sterile, climate of today's games industry. This, combined with the fact that they're allowing the first and second games to weld together into one massive campaign, shows that CA understand the desires and fantasies of their niche audience and are in no way afraid to cater to them. Christ, I sound like I'm shilling but stuff like this makes me really hopeful.
>we sought out the nightmares that haunt your cowardly dreams
A great line that typifies the Norscan mindset perfectly.

>>384373729
> (they) think they're just worshipping benevolent gods.
No, they "know" that their gods are assholes that treat them so bad to test them.
They don´t view them as benevolent, more like really harsh but fair parents.

>>384362837
enough with the chaos faggotry

>chaos
>norsca
>beastmen

CA are fucking lazy

>>384373163
Fuck

>>384367264
Best twist of the end times.

>>384373973
That sad part is that was one of the end times plot threads that actually had the potential to not be mind meltingly stupid.

>>384365325
The best actions never do

>>384374084
I haven't played WHFB since the 7th ed but Total Warhammer makes me feel like a fanboy again. They really know how to pander.

>>384364450
Are we ever getting individual Chaos factions devoted to different ruinous powers?

So is 2 gonna be totally stand alone or if you have both games does it combine them CA is never clear on how any of their shit works

>>384374379

If you only own Warhammer 1, you only get the old world campaign
If you only own Warhammer 2, you only get the new world campaign
If you own both, you can play both the old and new world campaigns, along with the merged map campaign that comes later.

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>>384371118
Haha, I remember those from Hero Quest

>>384374379
Yeah, I'm also unclear on how you should be able to "combine" the maps for each game release into one humongous campaign.

I -WANT- to believe it's true, but I also wanted to believe Rome 2 wasn't going to be shit. I can't hype anything that comes out of CA

>>384374540
So I should just wait till they put out a complete edition?

>>384364240
That looks amazing. Poor sap about to get hammered by the Troll King though. Surprised they don't just flee.

>>384374319
The fact that they're ordering to the right people is heartening.
They're not trying to cast a shallow net over people who will never play it, but for once doing the smart thing and ensuring the interested demographic WILL play it

>>384374540
I'm hype for the combined map but I don't really get it I mean other the melting your cpu what does it do?
Luxia was basically invented so old world races and new world races could fight, If I play the dwarfs the likelihood the lizardmen will have a meaningful impact on my campaign is pretty much zero.

>>384374882

If you have no interest in Warhammer 2, then yeah.

>>384374646
>150+gb install file

>Both of my boy Grombrindal's ancient enemies are now here
Thorgrim, get the book. We've got work to do

Vampire Counts are the best faction. Prove me wrong.

>>384375726
Every other faction in the game ca make a bow.

>>384375726
t. manlet von cuckstein

>>384375791
>>384375852
1v1 me in tabletop rite now u cunts

>>384375976
Withe Age of Sigmar, right? :^)

>>384375632
The combined campaign better feature huge beef between Grombrindal and Malekith

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>>384375726
This

>>384375852
Mannlet can fuck right off, best boy is here now

>>384369887
Hobgoblins? They only got a WD feature IIRC

>>384376040
>Manlet is now literally just a glowing pile of bones on an even bigger pile of glowing bones

WHEN will they LEARN /v/?

>>384375976
Don't get bootblasted when my 7th ed HE army annihilates your lord and your army falls apart before you get to me.

>>384376097
It looks like they're changing victory conditions for new armies instead of just having Conquer X and Destroy Y.
If Grombrindal gets an ultimate Grudge mission for his grand campaign, I'll be a happy man. GW ignoring the White Dwarf in ET was criminal.

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*blocks ur path*

>>384377223
>Surtha Ek starts mounted on a chariot due to memes

I like it.

>>384371710
Were at that side of fantasy again.

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I AM KARL FRANZ
THEY WILL OBEY

>>384368061
>Amazons
after Norsca, is there any hope for faction full of waifus?

>>384369887
Is there even any lore on Nippon?

>>384377561

They're Japanese and basically that's it.

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>>384377223
>charge defence against all
nothin' personnel...manling

I just want Chaos Daemons.

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>>384377561
Their main contribution is teaching Clan Eshin how to be ninjas.
Basically they're Fucking idiots.

>>384377561

They have no lore, but it'd be feudal Japan with oni, ghosts, dragons and other weeb monsters.

Cathay however has a bit more lore. Canonically the Dragon Emperor of Cathay is a super-sorcerer who was responsible for nuking the ogres and creating the Great Maw.

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>>384377670
>>384377838
I wonder if GW would be up to allowing/working with CA to fluff out Nippon, Cathay and other esoteric eastern "mentioned once in the lore" factions and make them proper factions with armies and shit?
Imagine if GW was up to it? Eventually, TW Warhammer could basically encompass the whole Old World and all of it's factions.

>>384378086
>I wonder if GW would be up to allowing/working with CA to fluff out Nippon, Cathay and other esoteric eastern "mentioned once in the lore" factions and make them proper factions with armies and shit?
I'm fairly certain that CA has the go ahead to make pretty much anything they want right now, within reason.
It's also within CA's interests to keep adding factions, especially ones that share some prexisting models.

>>384377838
>>384378014
Let's have Nioh be canon Nippon for now

>>384364170
>Name is Scandinavian for 'Norwegian' with the k replaced with a c
>Looks like Vikings

Really makes you think.

>>384378086
>>384378307
>>384373059
>>384374979

Since it seems like CA is actively expanding the lore and unit list, are there people and designers from GW working with them on this or is it just CA people doing entirely their own thing now?

>>384364380
>GW didn't because WHFB wasn't even in the Top 5 wargame sellers until it became AoS.
Too fat
https://icv2.com/articles/games/view/26216/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-lines-spring-2013

Is TW:Warhammer a good entry point for the series? I always thought Warhammer fantasy setting was cooler than 40k but never played it. The game looks pretty fun.

>>384369887
>Old World looks like tiny flaccid dick while Araby/Not Africa is giant chode

Hate this map

>>384378898
based priestly (the guy who wrote warhammer fantasy and 40k background) probably working with CA after quitting GW at 2010.

>>384379213
>Is TW:Warhammer a good entry point for the series?
Yep, especially local campaigns (beastman and wood elves)

>>384379336
Lol no he worked with Metzen on StarCraft 2

>>384379213
Yeah, CA is thought to really care about the setting

I have some peeves, like I think the terrain modeling is ugly, Empire Terrain,, trees and cities look like colonial frontier colonies in 1600's Quebec (Even Altdorf), it should look like Germany IRL

But other than that it's great but get mods to fix the AI of Wood Elves, by default they are neutral towards Chaos and are too aggressive

>>384362837
I want:
>Neferata with her own faction and the ability to take both dwarf and human settlements
>Middenheim turned into an actual sub-faction with Boris ascended to LL-hood (and other Imperial Factions also having their own LLs and units)
>Kislev made into a playable faction and both the Tzar and his daughter being playable LLs (also loads of bears, not!Hussars, not!Mongols, not!Cossacks...and mammoths if we have to go along with the Warmaster army list and Kislev Army List)

>>384379468
really? event that awful kerrigan shit at the end of Lotv?

>>384378086

Cathay is already more or less fleshed out.

>Your usual spearmen/swordsmen/archers/crossbowmen/gunmen/cavalry/ranged cavalry/chariots/artilley
>Cheap terracota soldiers who work as meatshields and stone lions who work as shock troops or mounts for heroes (this is probably Nehekaran magic brought to Cathay by the Jade Blooded vampires)
>Also stone crow men
>Monkey beastmen allies.

>>384373521
>2 stacks

pleb who plays on normal. disgusting

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>>384379552
>Kislev added
>Still dies at start of every campaign

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>>384373163
This is the stuff I can get behind

>>384379716
Maybe they shouldn't be absolute dicks to the only people stopping the Varg, Vampire, Beastman and Savage orc train.

>>384379881
>the only people stopping the Varg, Vampire, Beastman and Savage orc train
... who?

>>384380034
Literally everyone they inevitably piss off and get invaded by

>>384380034
I assume he's talking about Ostermark, I know each time Chaos comes Kislev has been wiped out by them, or focused everything on Bechafen and loses everything else

So, what's stopping us from getting the Total War : Warhammer 40k?

Mechanised units too large for battlefield? Too many OP projectile that would end the battle in literal 10 seconds? People don't run around in formation?

>>384380863
How do you know they're not planning to make it eventually? I expect it to be announced in the next 8 or so years

>>384380863
You'd need star systems and fleets and such.

>>384380863
>So, what's stopping us from getting the Total War : Warhammer 40k?
After DoW 3 none would want to touch 40k

>>384380863
Total war gameplay does not fit 40k at all.

>>384368139
Has Total War Warhammer and all its dlc's been on sale yet at all? I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the base game on sale at least.

>>384380863

Total War is all about lines of infantry regiments. The engine couldn't do modern/futuristic warfare justice unless you want to see Space Marines standing in firing lines like Napoleonic infantry.

>>384381587
A few times

>>384381154
Star system with hero commanding a fleet (lord commanding army)
Fleet engage in the star system starting the space battle (mechanics from Gothic Armada + Rome naval battle)
Attacking planet (city) would result in planatery field battle with randomised landscape, with battlefield on gigantic proportion and allow fielding of Titan

Might work!

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>>384362837
WHERE'S MY BEASTMAN UPDATE, CA?

WHY ARE BEASTMEN THE SMALLEST FACTION?

WHY ARE THERE STILL ICONIC UNITS MISSING?

WHY ARE THERE STILL NO REGIMENTS OF RENOWN?

WHY ARE DLC RACES NOT GETTING ANY FUCKING UPDATES IN GENERAL?

>>384374346
Fully expecting third game to be Realms of Chaos. Ogre Kingdomfags am cry

>>384380863

Dawn of War is what's stopping it.

Is anyone else impressed by how random the grand campaigns are?
My latest Empire game had Averland and Stirland bullying the vampires into irrelevancy, Karak Hirn going on a genocidal campaign against Wissenland, with Nordland and Middenland teaming up to exterminate Ostland, Hochland and Kislev.

>>384381759
They are though
Beastmen got morghur and harpies when wood elves came out, and the norsca release is apparently going to have stuff for all the old factions

>>384382048
I wish I could get a single campaign where the dwarfs weren't the #1 most powerful faction with 40(!) settlements.
The only time they were #3 was when I played an empire campaign before the welf ai balance mod. The dwarfs attacked the welfs while the chaos invasion was going on, and so it was just me, a few brettonians, and one welf army to fend off ALL of Norsca and Chaos at once. Fuck, even manfred put in more effort than the dwarfs.

Anyways after the invasion ended I noticed that dwarfs dropped hard in the rankings. I allied with welfs as thanks for their agent spam killing off the chaos agents, and found them completely tearing the dwarfs a new asshole. The whole badlands and most of the mountains were green

That was the ONLY time Dwarfs weren't the fuck off most powerful faction

>>384383225
Dwarfs have the best economy so it's not hard to figure out why they usually win.

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>tfw got into WH at the start of the 6th ed and never really got to experience the ridiculous 5th ed

I want a video game where you play a herohammer era hero blasting through enemy ranks with the aesthetic sensibilities of 5th ed

>>384383659
Their standard units also tend to get first priority in auto resolve compared to other races

>>384380863
I don't think 40K would translate well to Total War's battle-scale formula.
The strategic overmap could, but it's pretty standard stuff across all strategy games.
A Wargame 40K would be more like it for the battle level of things.

Age of Sigmar > Fantasy

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>>384370412
>kappa armies
nippon didn't have kappas, they had history accurate samurais (wielding a bow or a yari)
other than horses they also rode on pic related

>>384383659
Dwarves have the best geopolitical positioning and their roster completely shits on greenskins so there is no wonder they are always at the top. But it also makes them the most boring race to play as because they are isolated in their montains until Greenskins are dealt with. Can't wait for more players in the badlands to make things there a bit more lively.

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>>384383957
Heavy Metal: Total War

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>mfw the Third game is going to be called "Total War Warhammer 3: The End Times" and have all of the End Times lore/units/etc

cant wait for the shitstorm

>>384374980
>he doesnt know the lizardmen campaign mechanics

You realize they have to conquer random cities on the campaign map that lie on the geomantic web that only they can see right?

So if you play dwarves theres a good chance lizardmen randomly show up in the badlands, take away one of your cities and instantly ask for peace.

Didnt choose a good example there.

>>384384248
Greenskin starting position needs to be buffed imo

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*blocks your path*

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>>384362837
Cathay next? I want to BE A MAN and defend the Great Bastion against the hordes.

>>384384115

Wow, I honestly didn't know Nippon got any models or real lore at all. I was just toying with the idea of Kappas.

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>>384385127
*rattles them bones*

>>384377546
They have what? 3 units and a hero choice in the Lustria camapign?
Maybe we can at least get them as a roaming army, id realy love amazons.
its a shame they didnt do more with em in the TT, the only chance to have waifus in a lizardmen army.

Either way they will be modded in for sure, in fact, they already are in the dogs of war mod, recoloured war dancers that is.

With all the new female units from the elven factions it should be easy to make them.

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>>384385259
*resurrects your path*

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>>384385151
*crashes the world*

>>384385507

>Needs a gigantic fucking ritual to stop being dead

L M A O

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>>384385246
they didn't get much attention except for a small amount of units

>>384375726
gay
best vampire faction will be the Border Prince vampire when they get released

>>384385650
Needs a gigantic fucking ritual to stop being dead after being totally destroyed and shanked by warpstone. Also reminder that Kroak wouldn't even be able to resurrect himself if Nagash didn't exist.

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>>384385747

>>384378086
>Nippon, Cathay and other esoteric eastern "mentioned once in the lore" factions
>Old World

Bruh, Cathay and Nippon are on literally the other side of the planet. There is a reason why GW never cared to flesh them out, and anyone who hopes that they'll make it into TW:WH is delusional.

>>384385650
>wills himself to true life, not pussy undeath, because he got bored of being dead
Fixed

>>384386632
he was still a spooky skeleton man when he came back

>>384386492
So is Lustria, what's your point?

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>>384385853
this is the last of the nippon i could find
the nippon mercs were discontinued and made illegal at tournaments a long time ago tho

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>>384385127
*drops a moon on your continent*

>>384386724
Lustria actually has a major faction on it

>>384386818
And so could have Nippon and Cathay had GW decided to actually flesh out Warhammer fantasy instead of axing it.

>>384386721
That's the way he likes it.

>>384362837
>Reskinned Chaos Knights as "good guys"

God dammit.

>>384387012
Norsca aren't good guys

and they're not reskinned Chaos >>384364240

Are we getting more Beastmen starting locations with the second game? Maybe more than one starting location for Skaven as well?

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>>384387179
every new LL will have a unique starting position

>>384364380
>Top 5 wargame sellers until it became AoS.

God, what age of Sigmar did to the lore aggravates me though. Still irritated that the canon ending to the Warhammer universe was "Everybody loses".

>>384386724
Lustria is separated from the Old World by an ocean, which is relatively easy to traverse. Cathay and Nippon are separated from the Old World by one giant continuous landmass roughly twice the size of the Old World, riddled with mountain ranges, deserts, monsters, and various different cultures of people spread about the place, not to mention the Kingdom of Ind.

>>384387179
There is some dlc/FLC coming to all of Game 1's factions including the DLC ones, so there's hope.

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>>384363649
As long as they don't go the Radious route of adding stupid shit like chaos pegasus riders.

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DLC are going to be oriented like this now
no time wasted on minicampaigns anymore

>>So the biggest change we’ll be making with the first large DLC for Warhammer II is to swap out the mini campaign for two more additional Legendary Lords, for a total of 4 playable Lords in the pack. These four will each have their own factions, unique start positions, quests-chains, epic gear, benefits and playstyle… the whole nine yards. They’ll be playable in both the Eye of the Vortex campaign and the forthcoming combined campaign map, if you also own Warhammer 1. So twice as many play-through opportunities than before. We’ll be watching closely to see if players think this is a good trade.

>>384387498
>more starting locations and lords instead of mini campaigns
I would very much like that trade, yes.

>>384387498
Nagash, Settra, Arkhan, and Khalida C O N F I R M E D

>>384387363
What if the third game goes farther west instead of east?

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>>384387498
Kind of good shit. You can't even play as Boris Todbringer in the grand campaign mode, let alone get him.

>>384387814
Then to get from the Old World to there you'd have to cross one ocean, go round the bottom of Lustria, then go across another ocean. It'd be a logistical nightmare and simply unfun having to wait a million turns before you can actually use your armies, then on top of that you'd be sacrificing actual WHFB factions like the Ogre Kingdoms and Chaos Dwarfs.

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>>384377516

>>384388095
>You will never btfo Khazrak

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>>384372621
Norsca is Chaos you nignog. Every warrior of Chaos don't just conjure into existence faggot. They come from somewhere and those are the Norscan. Norsca follows the ruinous powers.

Some chiefs become Champions of Chaos, and lead their tribe into the path of Chaos, or lead a solo path. It's just that Norsca isn't a unified empire. It's a culture with differing tribes that do a shitload of infighting and testing each tribe into battle.