NWN, BG, IWD, PST etc

BG2 is above all

>>384305351
I only played NWN1, got bored of NWN2 shortly after reaching the tomb, so theres is that.
Sad the official modules of NWN 1 dont connect... I mean sure you have a handful of henchman in one of them, but you need to make a new character or something.

I had one dungeon crawler DnD ibuse to play with 3 friends that was pretty cool. I think it was thw og xbox?

I remember the word "ankh of life" being a major part of the story, but that's about it

both NWN1&2 have good modules, but unfortunately there is no carryover of any kind.
Shadows of Amn is the most fun in terms of D&D.

What's the difference betwee NWN 1 and 2 compared to say BG/IWD?
Is it only good when multiplayer?
Or can it be enjoyed equally as well singleplayer?

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>>384305351
Generally speaking probably the BG series, but it's hard to say completely. Reason I'm picking BG is it's just generally my favorite overall. Solid fun writing and companions, solid exploration, solid encounter design, fucktons of content. Probably the best and most well roundned D&D game.

I'm actually playing through Siege of Dragonspear for the first time right now and having a surprisingly good time with it. Way better than I expected it to be.

>>384307258
no continuity, 3rd edition sucks, still better than shit like PoE though

>>384307258
The NWN games aren't really party RPGs like BG. NWN2 (And HotU) have slightly larger parties than NWN1 but they're still pretty dinky. Also use 3rd edition rules instead of AD&D, and have kinda shit exploration and encounter/combat design compared to BG and IWD.

There's definitely still fun to be had in NWN1 but for some reason I hate 2 so goddamn much I can't even stand it. I can't even bring myself to play Mask of the Betrayer because after a few hours I just get so fucking sick of looking at and interacting with NWN2 that I just uninstall.

>>384305351

>NWN modules
man don't pull me back

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play my mod

>>384305351
what the fuck is going on in that screenshot

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>>384308620
Tony the Tiger knows all about it, why don't you go ask him.

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>>384308156
Why not
I'm creating a huge NWN thread opener with all the 1-20+ campaign modules I could find for both 1&2

>>384308620
Nothing special, anon

>>384309138
What module?

>>384305756
The two official NWN expansions were meant to be played with the same character but you lose all your shit by the start of the second expansion and by the time you get your stuff back it's worthless because what you have already is better.

>>384309685
That's Enigma Island 2 but there's barely any sexual content

>>384309685
play a dance with rogues

>>384305351
BG2 hands down. NWN1 roleplaying multiplayer with friends was better, but literally only because I was playing it with friends.

>>384311565
>playing as a slut(female) craving for orc and demon dick
I'm not that gay, anon

>>384307729
Good luck getting people to admit that or not immediately start trying to deflect criticism or pretend that it's a point in its favor.

>m-m-monks are SUPPOSED to be shit you w-w-weeaboo!

>>384305351

Shadows over Mystara

>>384305351
>>384305351
Baldurs Gate or Icewind Dale.

Fun to just follow a plot and dungeon crawl in iwd and using the system, while baldurs gate is fun for exploring a small part of a world in that system.

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>>384312016
Monks are even more shit on BG
Multi/dual classing is also retarded to the point there's literally no reason not to do it, unlike in 3e where you actually lose something valuable
Not to mention the lack of feats, concentration checks, actually skill checks barring hide/sneak/disarm/unlock, prcs are fun to name a few things

>>384309138
Do it. Link it. Share it.

THE NWN IS CALLING ME.

>>384312416
>Monks are even more shit on BG
No they're not, BG2 Monks are significantly better in every single way but defense.
>Not to mention the lack of feats, concentration checks, actually skill checks barring hide/sneak/disarm/unlock
Good.

>>384309138
I'm so scared I'll miss this now. I've never played one of these and I want to, with this I'd have so much incentive Jesus.

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>>384312416
>feats
>concentration checks
>skill checks

>>384312416
>Multi/dual classing is also retarded to the point there's literally no reason not to do it
Feels so good though.

>"Do you want to be a level 31 mage? or do you want to be a level 31 mage and a level 8 cleric?"

You don't even fall behind much.

A level 9 mage and a level 8 cleric has about the same experience as a level 10 mage

>>384312416
>enemy HP is much much lower so Monks don't spend several rounds pounding on something to kill it
>their fists actually are competitive with the best weapons in the game since they scale and get enhancement bonuses naturally, as opposed to 3E, where damage dice barely matters and fists require a non-weapon gear slot to fix
>stunning fist doesn't suck cock for the whole game and their self heal is relevant due to lower PC HP
>enemy AC is lower so their slightly lower accuracy doesn't matter, plus no iterative penalties nor full attack mechanic so you're hitting most of your attacks while moving really fast as opposed to being stuck in place and going full whiff-fest like when you fight Grimgnaw and company
>MAD is nowhere near as severe
>BG2 Monk ends up with far more relevant and damaging attacks
>magic resistance >>>> spell resistance because it doesn't get ignored by several spells

About the only thing NWN Monks have over BG2 Monks is that they can be Hasted and that they can sacrifice their offense to be unhittable. It's not even funny how much better the BG2 Monk ends up being by level 9, let alone ToB.

>>384313101
I swear, the 3.5 feat system is one of the worst fucking things I've ever seen.

>Do you want to do X? Too bad, you need a feat for it, which is locked behind one or two dead weight feats you would never want, and it sucks unless you dedicate yourself to doing X and X alone anyways!
>Do you want to take a flavor feat like Skill Focus? Hope you're ready to suck for not picking up feats you need to do your job!
>feats that give you core competence are right beside DURRRR GIVE UP ALL YOUR ATTACKS FOR THE ROUND TO DO +1d4 DAMAGE ON A SINGLE ATTACK

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>>384314537
fighters will never be good again

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>>384313170
>>384313101
>>384312706
Don't even get me started on the pantsu on head retarded bg/2e xp table
>be druid
>by the time you reach level 15 a rogue/bard is almost 24
Other classes don't have this but still
>1-10 takes as much as 11-13 or whatever

>>384313440
Oh dear, where to start
HP matters shit you already, enemies in NWN1&2 don't have high hp at all, besides bosses which have bloated af amounts on BG2 like a mage boss can have ~100 HP which is retarded for a single class mage on 2e
Monks have improved flurry and can actually use weapons like dual enchanted kamas with a fuckton of +one billion damage enchantments, cleave and great cleave allow for fast trash mob clearing, you gain cleave for free
Their AC is far better, wis boost + dex + robes + nat/deflection/dodge/feats like improved expertise
Monks can be hasted which is insane in NWN1 as it gives a full attack and +4 stacking AC
Monk AC is also better on NWN, stat boosts stack to +10
Stunning fast might not be great but you get motherfucking Improved Knockdown for free which is an instant win against anything that mclargehueg size like dragons, any humanoid enemy is basically perma knockedown from the one gorillion attacks you have and the fact it doesn't even have a cooldown on NWN1 kek
In NWN2 you even have a PRC that lets you be a monk/cleric with little cons

>BG2 Monk ends up with far more relevant and damaging attacks
Absolutely wrong. You have a max of 4 attacks on BG1 besides that cheesy scimitar on dual hand which makes zero sense for a monk
In NWN1 you end up with 6 attacks by default + 1 from haste and that's not assuming dual wielding
In NWN2 a kama monk can actually have so many attacks it actually won't even show on the damn the char sheet, up to motherfucking 18/round
Enemy AC is also pretty crappy on NWN1&2
>>384314915
I don't get this meme, fighters might be trash on pnp but they are great BG&NWN
NWN2 especially with FB and one million supreme cleaves
Your saves are way higher.

>>384314915
>tfw finding Viconia and eating her asshole is a real life possiblity

>>384315230
>>by the time you reach level 15 a rogue/bard is almost 24
lvl 15 is a big step for druids though

some classes cap out at 40 others at 31

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>>384315230
you can switch the exp tables to pnp, if for whatever reason you want to be a furry.

>>384315230
>enemies in NWN1&2 don't have high hp at all
Go pound on the ice trolls a couple of screens before Grimgnaw and let me know how that works out for you. I played a Monk through HotU not too long ago and it takes FOREVER to clear them out solo thanks to whiff city between their AC vs 3/4 BAB and Flurry of Blows' -2 to hit and their HP vs. your low damage per hit.

>>384315230
>Absolutely wrong.
Absolutely right. All of your attacks are made at the same attack bonus in 2E and 1d20+3 before STR is way more relevant in a game where enemy HP almost never goes to triple digits. In NWN, half of your attacks aren't even relevant because of iterative penalties on a class with 3/4 BAB and an effectively permanent -2 or -4 to hit, plus you're either hitting for shit all per hit or you've sunk a fortune into two weapons.

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>>384315818
just about every gripe he has is with the vanilla games, without the extensive mods available being touched

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>>384305351
nwn

Eye of the Beholder 2

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I CANNOT BE CONTAINED

>>384316551
There is a full Eye of the Beholder 2 NWN conversion

I cannot be caged

How much of a hassle is it to setup NWN1 multiplayer these days?

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>>384317336
It's pretty easy
Do you awnt to play with me, anon? :3

>>384317538
Drop your Steam and we'll set something up later.

Probably PST. Pic related and Dark Sun are close runners up

>>384318204
And by pic related I mean TOEE

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>>384305351
>love D&D
>love creating tactical encounters as a DM
>every D&D game is a shitheap with RTWP combat
WHY

RTWP IS SUCH SHIT

>>384318452
Temple of Elemental Evil
Knights of the Chalice
To a lesser degree, http://store.steampowered.com/app/576770/Low_Magic_Age/

>>384318452
Dark Sun.

>>384310108
Keeping your stuff from SoU in HotU will let you sell them for pretty nice prices in the last shop in HotU.
You need a shitton of money to get all true names so you can tell people to stop being stupid and tell the boss to kill himself so you skip the final boss fight, nice option if your build isn't very useful for crazy long boss fight with multiple phases.

>>384318452
>RTWP
can still play turn by turn

>>384305351

Planescape: Torment is my favorite because I'm a storyfag. BGII is the best representation of "actual D&D." Every other D&D game is pure irredeemable garbage, including BG1.

>>384319741
>BGII is the best representation of "actual D&D.

No it isn't. That's Temple of Elemental Evil.

>>384321476
How do I do this?

>>384321759
Champion of torm lets you take bonus wisdom, has bonus saves and a few other goodies, 1 level of monk for the Wis bonus to AC and skill dump tumble.
IMP Knockdown
IMP Expertise
Weapon focus anything (for CoT)
IMP crit unarmed
Armor skin
Epic prowess
Use CoT levels to pick up all the Great Wisdom feats

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Skyrim

>>384321923
Is it actually playable throughout the game or is it one of those "sucks for 95% of the game then dominates the last 5%" meme builds?

>>384322192
you use earth elemental form and the like until then, and even then you're invulnerable and chuck out damage.

>>384322409
Thanks. Sounds pretty hilarious.

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As a graffixfag that really, REALLY wants to fall in love with these games, is there anything I can do? Do I have to skip one? Please help me have fun /v/.

>>384323520
play the 1.3v of BG1/2EE before they gutted the graphics, or alternatively, play the latest version with the smoothing filter and other garbage, since you're probably one of those sweetfx fags

>>384305351
NWN1. As far as I know, it's still the best RPG for making custom adventures.

>>384307258
>What's the difference betwee NWN 1 and 2 compared to say BG/IWD?
The NWN games are 3D instead of isometric. They also use 3rd Edition rules. NWN1 only lets you directly control one character instead of the whole party, and in most modules, you only ever have two companions at most. The NWN games also came with toolsets that allowed people to make their own stuff, and there's a lot of custom content out there. There's a lot more content for NWN1 because its toolset was easier to use and because it's the better game in general, despite its flaws.

>Is it only good when multiplayer?
>Or can it be enjoyed equally as well singleplayer?
You can have a lot of fun with NWN without ever playing multiplayer, because there are a *lot* of good modules available.

>>384308039
>There's definitely still fun to be had in NWN1 but for some reason I hate 2 so goddamn much I can't even stand it. I can't even bring myself to play Mask of the Betrayer because after a few hours I just get so fucking sick of looking at and interacting with NWN2 that I just uninstall.
NWN2 is just really unpleasant to play. It's clunky and buggy, combat is a clusterfuck, the graphics for buffing spells are gaudy and annoying, the dialogue system doesn't work well without voice acting (which almost no custom module has). NWN2 is a pile of annoyances.

>>384322192
Druid is pretty overpowered pre-epic levels. Not a big deal.