Dragon Ball Fighter Z

Super is cancer but you're delusional if you think that there won't be at least one Super character.

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if dubs it's ya boy

>>384288568
Yeah. Beerus.

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>>384288219
>There are people who don't realize its Piccolo and Krillin.

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>>384288219
>>384289860
>There are people who don't realize its Piccolo and Gotenks

>>384290680
Yeah, I'm guessing this is going for a Buu era Butoden style roster. Wouldn't be surprised to see Dabura as well.

>>384288219
>There are people who don't realize its Frieza Soldier and Pui Pui

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>post yfw you don't get into the beta

>>384288776
The best choice right here. Beerus is one of the best things to happen to Super. I'd also like to see Whis.
Please no character who looks like a twig or who's ready to make the donuts.

>>384291668
Beerus is made to be the second worst fucking failure of a God next to sindra2 his incompetence is why everything happens in super

>>384288219
Why would Piccolo blow anybody out? He's one of the most iconic characters in the series. Nobody expects him to be absent.

>>384288219
>Roshi

I hope so.

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>>384291357
>post yfw there is no pc beta

>>384288219
I want Sorrel

>>384288219
How exactly will revealing piccolo and Roshi BLOW OUT super fags?

>>384291357
how do u get in the beta?

>>384288219
How would that blow them out, though? Roshi and Piccolo are actually relevant in Super.

>>384292076
Signups in about a week. The 26th, I think.

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>>384288776
>>384291668
>>384291805
Beerus is a Z Character.

Also it's Shin's fault the Mortal level is so low, he hasn't created any worlds in fucking EONS

>>384289860
Krillin and 18 are going to get revealed together, there's no way they'd reveal either with Piccolo.

>>384292579
this. shin is such a pussy.

>>384292076
by being an autistic known youtuber with over 3M subscribers.

>>384292050
Every thread needs to be a z vs super vs gt shitflinging, with sometimes an early db poster showing up.

But whatever, Piccolo is sure to be the next character they'll shown, but if Roshi is going to appear at all it will probably be a late surprise, so I'm more geared toward them showing Krilin.

>>384290680
>Gotenks

When Gohan uses that white costume sometimes it seems it is SSGotenks. I hope Gotenks starts as SS3 though

>>384290959
Dabura could be unique due to fire attacks and the spit.
But the one I really want to be in the game is Kid Goku
>power pole combos
>some attack riding the flying cloud
>rock scissors paper
>using the tail to attack like a monkey
>rush headbutt
>aftermirage
>that one hand kamehameha(like DB Advanced Adventure)
>that oozaru fist that defeated King Piccolo

>>384292579
It's also Beerus' fault for letting Freeza lose.

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>>384292743
Let's be honest here.

Is there a bigger fucking faggot in all of DB than this pussy?

At least Beerus actually destroys a weak planet here and there - even if he's lazy, we've seen him blow up multiple planets on screen.

Shin's done FUCK ALL since killing Bibidi, which even Bulma probably could have done.

>>384293234
He can... uhhh... travel faster than Whis?

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>>384291357
I hate closed beta bullshit

>>384292923
>I hope Gotenks starts as SS3 though
I actually don't want that because so far Frieza being the only one with a transformation is pretty lame.

>>384293234
In Shin's defense the people that were supposed to teach him how to do his job died long time ago.

>Shin's done FUCK ALL since killing Bibidi
He made some new planets aka doing his job.

>>384293234
Beerus blows them up for not having good food, rather than for being filled with wicked people.
Plus, Shin didn't have anyone to tell him what he's supposed to do with his job since Beerus sealed Elder Kai in a sword, causing 5 generations of Kais to go without a teacher.

>>384293234
In his defence he was the most inexperienced Kai of them all.
So the blame goes to the Old Kai for not whipping him into shape.

>>384292841
>Every thread needs to be a z vs super vs gt shitflinging, with sometimes an early db poster showing up.

But Z IS DB.

Anyways, it's unlikely they'll show Krillin without 18, especially when they can show off just how well certain assists will work with certain fighters, and Krillin and 18 will likely be the best example of it.

So really, it'll probably be Piccolo and a somewhat staple character like Bardock or Gotenks.

>>384292579
Majin Buu and Bibidi are also to blame since they destroyed countless planets and the Kais that knew wtf they were doing.

>>384293519
The blame actually goes to Beerus for sealing Old Kai in a sword

>>384293519
Old Kai was gone for a long time thanks to Beerus.

>>384293446
>In Shin's defense the people that were supposed to teach him how to do his job died long time ago.
That's sorta fair.

>He made some new planets aka doing his job.
No he hasn't. In fact, it's quite possible that every planet around is Old Kai's or one of the dead Kai's doing, and Shin's never made a planet.

>>384293653
>>384293691
He's not in the sword anymore and Shin is still as inept as he was before.

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>>384291953
>playing fighting games on PC

>>384293653
>>384293691

Couldn't Beerus have killed Majin Buu?

>>384292579
Super retconned the movies, so Beerus is as Z as Cooler.

I dont know what the fuck is going on in this game, all i see is different characters using the same move list

>>384293653
why does a god of destruction have sealing people into inanimate objects as part of his powerset

>>384293234
>Hyped up as a mysterious powerful entity since his first appearance in Z
>Went on a manhunt to track down the people that killed all his friends and prevent an unstoppable monster from being awakened
>Even Piccolo is shitting bricks. DBZ Power Scaling aside, that means there's trouble

>Ends up becoming a useless twink a few episodes after his introduction
>Gets cucked by an old man that's fused with an old hag

There really is no character more useless than him.

>>384293807
Old Kai's only been out of the sword for 5 years max. Probably takes a long time to instill the knowledge required for being Supreme Kai.
>>384293890
Old Kai said Buu was stronger than the person who put him in the sword.

>>384293890
He probably wasn't allowed to. Buu is most likely important to the universe's balance. He's older than Beerus, after all.

>>384293890
Yeah he could, and he was supposed to, but much like Shin Beruss is shit at his job.

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>>384288219
>2 characters get revealed for a arcsys fighting game
>suddenly this blows away the Superfags who are making dosh off of Dragon Ball Heroes in Nipland

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>>384293446
To be honest, elder Kai could be a support and teacher or even Kibito.
But to this day the writers don't care. It's bullshit. I HATE TOEI!
Toei shows Shin as a closeted beta fag. I wonder how Toyo shows him in the manga?

>>384293005
Freeza was doing a better job than Beerus and he doesn't sleep. But peharps Beerus due to some GoD "decease" or control over them, which makes you wonder why Buu sleeps that much, hm..

>>384293234
That son of the bitch when appears seems so almighty, but then Shin turns out to be a pussy and dumb, he was the reason why Buu was released in the first place. He also doesn't have knowledge of the universe has it should, something Old Kai does even when he was trapped inside of a sword for so long.
Despite plot and how AT changed through Buu's arc in the end Shin was like "lol, actually the Buus we have been fighting isnt the real Buu". Shin has done a terrible job

>At least Beerus actually destroys a weak planet here and there - even if he's lazy, we've seen him blow up multiple planets on screen
Beerus destroys planets on childish whims. Beerus even destroyed a bunch of planets while fighting Champa in the end.
Old Kai even mentions how Beerus is random at destroying things.

>>384293594
>But Z IS DB.
Most people don't give a shit about the manga and you know it.

>>384293931
>Super retconned the movies
Super cemented their canonicity anon.

How do I get into dragonball. Just read the manga?

>>384293890
Beerus was sleeping or he didn't care.

>>384293931
Toriyama specifically said BoG is canon.

>>384293594
>But Z IS DB.
Yeah, but most of the "discussion" that happens is about the anime rather than the manga, but I'd rather not keep going further with that.

>>384294165
The Manga's canon, and that's all that matters.

Might as well start bitching about Bio-Broly and Evolution if we're talking about everything.

>>384293594
I just want Krillin to be announced so I can play my team of Future Trunks/Piccolo/Krillin in the beta.
Really hope it isn't Gotenks.

Let's talk about assist based characters, weak in term of fighting possibilities but with a great assist tool for your team.


>Zamasu
>can heal your blue life
>can turn into Merged Zamasu if you use his level 5 super but you need Black Rose in your team

>Dabura
>spit that can turn the opponent into stone for a short period of time

>Nappa
>plants a Saibaman that will rush the opponent to do a simple pressing followed by a grab and an explosion

>Kuririn
>taiyoken, prevents the opponent from using his guard for a few seconds

>Ginyu
>body change, can stole the character of your opponent

>>384293789
They said that they've recently made more planets during the Goku vs Beerus fight

>>384294259
Pretty much. If there are any notable fights you want to see youtube it.
The Super manga and anime are different as well given that Tori only wrote an outline and let Toei and Toyble go to town so check out both of those.

>>384294220
>cemented their canonicity
Those movies were billed as canon at the time. They then both got rewritten in Super. The Super versions of those arcs are the "canon" ones, even though the movies are better ("Super" in general should've just been a series of movies really)

>>384293446
Since SS3 Goku is a transformation finisher like Hyper Dimension, Gotenks should start as SS3 imo.
I think other characters will do the same as Golden Freeza, like going Goku and Vegeta going Blue.

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>>384294482
>Krillin
>weak in term of fighting possibilities
Stop posting, Frost.

>>384294161
>Old Kai even mentions how Beerus is random at destroying things.

Anyone who got destroyed by Beerus destroying things at random is just unlucky.

And they wouldn't want any unlucky beings in the universe - it would just bring the mortal level down.

So Beerus was going good.

>>384294674
>luck being a tangible skill
Fuck off Danganronpa, you have even worse writing than Dragonball

>>384294631
>They then both got rewritten in Super.
The only difference is a few Champa appearances and that they're on a boat.
Aside from the visuals they're the exact same story anon.

In other words, the movies are canon.

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>>384294482
>Nappa
>plants a Saibaman that will rush the opponent to do a simple pressing followed by a grab and an explosion
>If it kills Yamcha you get a scene of his death pose.

>>384294607
>The Super manga and anime are different as well given that Tori only wrote an outline and let Toei and Toyble go to town so check out both of those.

Tori actually does have an active roll in the anime, he still contructs the overall story and the overall plot of the episodes, as well as being a scenario writer occasionally.

They literally just let Toyble go to town with the manga though.

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>>384294482
>chiaotzu
>can attach to a character and self-destruct
>it does no damage

>>384294482
>>body change, can stole the character of your opponent
>all it does it make ginyu use your opponents assist

>>can turn into Merged Zamasu if you use his level 5 super but you need Black Rose in your team
I'd rather they save this for Goku+Vegeta at lvl 7 and fuse into either Gogeta or Vegito.

>>384292579
EVERY THREAD

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>>384294482
>Super Buu
>HIDDEN MISSILES

>>384294942
Except for Yamcha

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>>384294914
>They literally just let Toyble go to town with the manga though.
Thank god for that

>>384288219
Why Roshi if it's going to be Piccolo it'll either be Piccolo and Gotenks, or Piccolo and Ultimate Gohan (hopefully not). I assume they're doing pairs. If not Piccolo at all than Krillin and 18 probably. I hope we get at least unexpected character though.

>>384294631
Anon, that's reaching

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>>384295030
You STILL mad that G.Frieza's a Z Character?

>>384294914
>Tori actually does have an active roll in the anime
>They literally just let Toyble go to town with the manga though.
That's literally the exact fucking opposite. Toyo calls up Tori like every other fucking day and they discuss the manga. Tori personally reviews all of his storyboards and gives him the OK.

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they should add the combo attacks from this game

>>384294914
You got that the wrong way around; Tori has no involvement with the anime, even saying as much in interviews with shit like "I haven't seen the final draft, let's find out together [raughs]".
Meanwhile, Toyble has talked about Toribot suggesting changes to panels and choreography before sending his chapters off to the editors.

>>384295101
whats with goku's gloopy chidori

>>384294914
>They literally just let Toyble go to town with the manga though.
But that's wrong. Toriyama works on the manga more than the anime. The DragoonRoom team does the anime, Toriyama and Toyo work on the manga.

Are superfags this stupid?

>>384295167
Here's the possibilities

>Piccolo / Gotenks
>18 / Krillin
>Bardock / Satan
>Broly / Jaco
>Roshi / Bulma

Ultimate Gohan's a stretch, since they didn't want too many forms of the same character (they preferred none, but they left themselves some wiggle room for Kid Goku and Mystic Gohan, but not for things like different forms of Cell - Buu's a very weird case)

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>>384295329
Water Style Chidori anon.

>>384295427
Wait, they're revealing characters on Friday? Anon pls source.

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>>384293604
>Kid Buu wasn't created by Bibidi, it was some ancient being, some interview by Toriyama
>Kid Buu was sealed, Bibidi knew about him and released him
>Bibidi couldn't control Buu and goes rampage
>Kid Buu was an ancient god of destruction but was so insane he was sealed be by Grand Priest, or Zeno or whatever God in that time
>Kais knew that Kid Buu was a previous GoD so they couldn't do anything about it because of that link between GoDs and Kais
>Kais only acted because Kid Buu attacked their realm and such thing is forbidden

Could be around something like that. It would tie how Buu is always sleeping like Beerus and how Kid Buu/Uub get stronger while fighting as mimic their opponents.

>>384295498
>During an interview at EVO, Tomoko Hiroki, producer of Dragon Ball FighterZ, mentioned something rather interesting through a translator. We will be seeing some new characters for the upcoming Dragon Ball fighter very soon. Specifically we will be getting information on two new characters for Dragon Ball FighterZ on July 21, 2017. We should be seeing this information on that date via the V-Jump magazine.

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>>384294661
How does this work exactly? Sometimes he goes SSJ3 sometimes he doesn't.

>>384294482
>krillin
>weak in terms of fighting possibilities
he'd be great with destructo disc shenanigans
>capcha: ring largo

>>384295427
>no yamcha & tien

>>384295589
i'm alright with this. i think buu was already ranting about being a god in his arc anyway, not even a stretch of a retcon

>>384294861
Krillin was more of a bitch in the anime version too IIRC
Why the fuck does anyone care about canon when it comes to the games which do whatever the fuck they want anyway, you guys keep shitflinging about how "they wouldn't add non-Z characters in a game with Z in the title! :DD" in a series that still consistently gets fucking GT characters in games with Z in the title?

>>384295427
I like the choices

>Teacher / Student
>Manlet / Amazon
>Asshole but capable father / doting but retarded father
>Super serious edgy joke character / Hilarious slapstick joke character
>Pervert / Pervertee

https://strawpoll.com/gssgc628

>>384295589
>Kid Buu was a previous GoD
>goku defeated him with a Super Spirit bomb, a move with the collective power of peoples spirits
>Goku only achieved SS3 at that time
>Goku has now obtain a power to rival the gods
>The Tournament of Power has a total of 80 contestants
Hmm....

remember that time gohan kicked one of cell's kids so hard in the face the top of its head exploded and you could see one of its eyeballs fly away with the nerves still trailing off

that sure was gohan

>>384295427
>Gotenks, Bardock, Broly
No more fucking saiyans, please The four we have in the game already barely look different to each other moveset-wise and those four are the only ones that matter to begin with.

>>384296076
You're going to get more saiyans and you're going to fucking like it. Broly and gotenks have a pretty good chance of getting in.

>>384296076
I agree about Bardock, but Gotenks definitely would add a lot moveset wise. And Broly is the obvious big guy/grappler. That's the threshold for saiyans for me in the game though. I don't even want Vegito or Gotenks (we already have goku and vegeta and I assume he'd be a broke ass character tier wise).

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I really don't want Super stuff in this game. Does anyone actually believe it's better than DB and Z? What the fuck happened? It's almost like all the franchises I love are being beaten to death, thrown off Korin's tower, and then being beaten even more by Upa and his dad.

>>384295441
This wasn't as bullshit as the majority of the f/a/gs think. Goku was always a copycat. Also, he is a GoD candidate.
Genkidama Sword didn't make much sense because there wasn't much ki to be collected and Trunks got this technique randomly.
The biggest bullshit was when Trunks got the healing powers.

>>384296259
stop adoring cashcows and you'll never have this problem again

>>384293931
>>384294312
Whether the movies or series is """canon""" is a tricky subject. The Battle of Gods movie shows Trunks and Mai developing a relationship, while the series version of events ignores that entirely, only for their relationship to become a major plot point in the Future Trunks arc.

Basically just pick and choose whatever you want, it's all fiction anyway arguing whatever version """actually happened""" is useless

>>384296076
>No more fucking saiyans, please
Though luck this is Dragon Ball then, at least both Gotenks and Broly have a high chance to appear, and they both happen to be most of the most distinct saiyans in terms of fighting style.

>>384296283
I dont know about you but when that Panel was revealed during /a/. People were going off the walls. i dont have the cap but it was pretty good.
>>384296259
Wanting new characters doesnt mean the source is always better.
Infinite World was good with GT bozos.
Bt3 was good.

>>384296390
but how will generations to come know how to interpret the sacred texts then

>>384296390
It's not tricky at all. The movies weren't retconned by the recaps.

>>384296259
It's about as bad as post-Frieza Saga DB honestly (after this point Toriyama clearly just stopped giving a shit), main difference there is that Super's animation/art is considerably fucking worse-looking 90% of the time somehow.

The movies that Super redid for some dumb reason were more entertaining than the entirety of Super itself though.

>>384296390
I'm starting to hate how much people care about canon, specially when it comes to getting characters into a fighting game, I'd rather they'll put characters that might end up fun to play than if they are part of the "real" story.

Next manga cap when?

>>384295870
>>Teacher / Student
Piccolo just told them to train by themselves, he didn't teach them jack shit.
>>Manlet / Amazon
18 is barely taller than Vegeta, she's not an amazon in the slightest.
>>Asshole but capable father / doting but retarded father
Bardock wasn't an asshole. Read DBM.
>>Super serious edgy joke character / Hilarious slapstick joke character
>Broly generalizing memes

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Bulma in Mech Suit as fighter when?

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>>384296701
Soon?

>>384296572
How can two contradicting events happen at the same time? So you're saying they're both canon?

>>384296849
For what purpose is the tank top?

>>384296283
>Goku was always a copycat
Yes but Hakai is also a specialized skill for GoD. For starters he shouldn't be able to simply glance and learn the intricacies of the attack in the first place because it isn't as simple as say, the Kamehameha. Not to mention until that point there was nothing to hint at him even seeing the move because he denies becoming a GoD and Beerus never takes an active part in the training. Nor does Whis after they learned how to use godly ki mind you.

Genkidama Sword on the other hand was just gathering energy to amplify a preexisting attack of Trunks'.

>>384296849
>>384296701
yikes

>>384296957
Because she made the shirt?

She likes wearing stuff she made.

>>384296701
>>384296849
This looks revolting.

>>384296572
Given that Super changes details about them they're not just recaps. Unless you really want to tell yourself that it's not canon there's no reason to not assume that Super's version didn't retcon the movies.

Most people don't really give a shit because only you spergs are still trying to persuade yourself that this series is well-written, even the series creator doesn't care about this series as much as you guys do.

>>384296698
>Bardock wasn't an asshole. Read DBM.
>Read DBM
Thought you meant multiverse for a second

>>384296910
>How can two contradicting events happen at the same time?
What contradicting event?

>>384297060
>Given that Super changes details about them they're not just recaps
The only real difference is the fact that they're on a ship instead of capsule corp the overall story is the exact same as it was before minus the Champa cut ins that don't have a bearing on anything

>>384297006
You know what?

You were already blown the fuck out in the last thread by actual proof in the Manga that Goku knows of Hakai during training, among like 20 other posts.

And Trunks also had no fucking idea what he was doing with the energy or where it even came from.

Fuck off already, you're worse than the "SUPER WON'T GET IN GUYS" fags.

>>384295641
If you miss it, you lose it

>>384296006
>Kid Buu was playing around and having fun, not getting tired or anything
>got upset with fighting someone like him, aka fat Buu, but overcame that
>Kid Buu gets "oh shit feeling" when Spirit Bomb and starts being serious
>Spirit Bomb was taught by King Kai
>"Kai"
>that move has a boost against evil beings and gods of destruction because of "pure" ki

They can play that card one day and make Whis and Beerus going "oh shit, Goku knows such advanced technique? how can he even gather ki from so many beings like humans or plants,etc?"
At an extreme point they can say Genki Dama is what Hakai is to GoDs.

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>>384296492
>but when that Panel was revealed during /a/. People were going off the walls. i dont have the cap but it was pretty good.

>>384297284
>If you miss it, you lose it
but he goes back to SS even if you hit

Sure Piccolo is cool and all, but Freeza's brother is Cooler.

>>384297006
>Yes but Hakai is also a specialized skill for GoD.
Nice headcanon but it was never stated that Hakai is only for GoD.

>>384295589
So which Kai was tied to Buu? Old Kai?

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>>384297284
Im already waiting for the God GenkiDama
The minute any angel or god sees it, Its time to shut Goku down.
>>384297405
Thanks anon
>GOKU: GOD OF DESTRUCTION
always gets me

>>384297231
>by actual proof in the Manga that Goku knows of Hakai during training
You didn't even post any proof you just posted the manga page with Goku denying becoming a GoD and went
>SEE, SEE FORESHADOWING!
Without understanding the difference between foreshadowing and eliminating a possibility outright.

Tell me, if Goku doesn't want to be a GoD, didn't see Beerus Hakai Zamasu and Beerus fucks off on his own while they're training when did he even see it to learn it?

>>384297006

Goku is God of Destruction candidate so using Hakai, he's Beerus and Whis so has had more opportunities to see it and has always had a
exceptional ability to take on people's move.


Future Trunks has never even seen the Genki Dama yet he somehow unknowingly and he does without the consent of the Earthling something was
needed for the regular Genki Dama, somehow Ki of a nearly wiped out Earth is able to defeat a being that tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.
Remender that SSG is Universe tier while holding back.


These are two are in no way comparable, sorry.

>>384294667
Stop posting weak fag. All his training amounted to was throwing a smelly shoe at a dog and got eliminated.

>>384288219
Itll be android 17 and 18. screenshot this

>>384297506
>but it was never stated that Hakai is only for GoD.
And it was never stated here either anon.
I said it was specialized FOR them not that they're the only ones to use it.

>>384297674
You literally just repeated the same post without even attempting to argue your point.

>>384297610
It's literally right above you, what in the fuck anon.

Are you the same fucker that goes into threads and seriously says that Yamcha learning Kamehameha is an asspull?

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>>384297405
>Well, he is kind of deleting it right now
Kek. This is great.

>>384297745
His literally mastered Destructo Volley ball with 18, a woman with infinite Stamnia.
He did fine.
Now its Tiens turn to show whats hes got, cause i already Know Roshi got his fights in the bag. Dodonkamehameha pls

>>384293881
>not having a stick to play fightan on pc
LMAOing @ ur life

>>384297674
>Goku is God of Destruction candidate
>being a candidate means you can learn skills through osmosis solely by being in the vicinity of a user
This is your logic.
This is how retarded you toybletards are.

>>384294942
I've never caught this pokemon

>>384297772
Nah, it'll Piccolo + either a male/female hero or villain.

>>384296259
Its honestly no worse than post-Cell DBZ

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>>384296701
>>384296849
No, Bulma in a mech suit would be dumb. If you're getting a mech character it's going to be this. Hell you have a higher chance of the RR pirate robot getting in than Bulma in a mech suit.

IT'S GOING TO BE 18 AND CAULI I'M WILLING TO BET ON THIS

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>>384296283
>Genkidama Sword didn't make much sense because there wasn't much ki to be collected and Trunks got this technique randomly.
Xenoverse 2 does a pretty good job at fixing the energy half of this problem. Trunks being able to pull it off is still bullshit though.
In it, Black's whole "cutting open space with his scythe" thing was him using the power of the time ring to open a rift between timelines to pull in other villains to fight Goku, Vegeta, and the player (instead of his shadow clone jutsu from the anime) and the energy for the Spirit Bomb Sword later comes from people like Future Gohan/Teen Trunks, GT Goku/Pan/Trunks, and Time Cop Trunks through the rift.

>>384297574
Are you really implying Buu is a GoD? What are you smoking? Isn't he just a force of destruction, like an all natural phenomenon?

>>384297774
>no argument

>>384297920
>Goku was trained by Beerus and Whis
>h-he was just in the vicinity of a user
Are you retarded?

>>384297773
Is Future Trunks a chunni?

>>384296259
Beerus design is ok but the show is shit. I don't see how anyone can consider this canon if Toriyama doesn't even remember his own cast and their personalities. He had even forgotten how to draw ssjgoku at one point.

>>384288219
Nobody likes Piccolo. He will not be added.

>>384298161
Read the post chain before breathing through your mouth - it helps prevent shitposts.

Is loli Chi-chi in the game?

>>384297792
>It's literally right above you, what in the fuck anon.
Yeah, the page where Goku is turning down becoming a GoD with Beerus sitting on the sidelines that proves my point about the instance being an impossibility.

>>384298185
>>no argument
You're right, you don't have an argument because I could just redirect you back to this post >>384297006 that answers everything you posted before.

>>384297920
Goku had been training with Whis for a fucking YEAR.

Whis is, even now, still trying to get him to accept the GoD position. What's a God of Destruction's signature technique?

How is that even close to equivalent to "MY SWORD HAS ENERGY BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON I'MMA CUT YOU ZAMU!"

>>384296849
>>384296701
This is never going to happen.
>We dive deep into the anime to get character moves
>We want to keep characters in line with how they fight in the series
She has 0 chance to be in a mech suit because that just goes against all canon. There's infinitely higher chance that we get Lunch as a gun character who has even less of a chance than Mai as a gun character.

Bulmamechfags need to leave.

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>People think Roshi won't be preorder DLC

>>384293881
fighting games are popular on pc as well anon. Skull girls used to get updates on PC before console got them.

>>384298429
See >>384297674 and >>384297591
>Goku Hakai detail

Come back when you have a real rebuttal

>>384298429
>Yeah, the page where Goku is turning down becoming a GoD with Beerus sitting on the sidelines that proves my point about the instance being an impossibility

You mean the same page that shows that Goku knows what Hakai is and has fucking seen it?

You've gotta be careful just how hard you're breathing through your mouth anon, you'll fucking blow your own house down.

>>384298185
>>Goku was trained by Beerus and Whis
>beerus
>training
Where the fuck does he train him?
In the Champa arc? He was fucking asleep until his brother got there.
In the Zamasu arc? He's just watching Goku and Vegeta spar.
Same with Whis, but Whis since the champa arc just does the
>Hey, you're fucking up here, fix it.
thing instead of teaching them techniques.

Where the fuck does he learn the move?

>>384297574
Who knows. That shit doesn't make sense, since Old Kai was sealed by Beerus and yet he is linked to Supreme Kai who is younger.

About Kid Buu, they could say he is from another universe. This tournament is showing that with the Yardrat and as how there is someone frm the race of Beerus and Champa in the Troopers.
Hell, they can even throw that Kid Buu is a sole survivor from one of the other 6 erased universes

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Reminder

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Foreshadowing
>A clue or allusion embedded in the narrative that predicts some later event or revelation. It could be something a character says or does, an event that doesn't make sense until much later, a Meaningful Name, or really anything at all. The foreshadowing may be ominous, or seem perfectly innocent at the time.

>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect. Genuinely bad foreshadowing either deflates the suspense or is too obfuscated (such as an Ice Cream Koan) to predict anything. It's also equally problematic if used excessively. Foreshadowing may establish something to avoid an Ass Pull. Or it may put a viewer off as introducing a needless supernatural element to the story.

Again
>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect.

>In literature, foreshadowing is commonly done when a possibility is mentioned, but almost immediately dismissed or disproved. To some readers, they will dismiss the suggested possibility just as the unsuspecting characters do. More experienced readers will immediately call the author's bluff and know what to expect.

>>384297405
that motherfucker is unstoppable.

>>384288219
Ok guys who do you think the most obscure in this game will be? I feel like we're going to get one that most people don't expect. Probably someone from DB.

>>384298775
arale

>>384297773
WHERE IS THIS FROM SAUCE ME

>>384288219
>Piccolo and 18

>>384298867

Trunks trailer that was released recently.

>>384297773
>does it only once
>every DBZ game ever shows Trunks doing this every time
I am sick of this shit.

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>>384298867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBdKUHqmIW0

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>>384298775
I will fucking drop this game if he's not in it.

>>384298867
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Z

Super garbage will kill this game.

Keep it Z, have a nice, juicy, 30-35 roster of notable Z characters. Keep an intricate move set for characters, and don't dumb the genre down. EVO, here we come!

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>>384298532
>fighting games are popular on pc
>he posted this unironically

>>384298775
This, Neko Majin Z or possibly Tori-bot

>It's a MUH GOKU SOUNDS LIKE A GRANDMA episode again

I'm so sorry sweetie, I bet hearing Goku not voiced by someone doing constipation grunts must really hurt your fragile masculinity, huh?

>mfw dubshitters probably don't even recognize all the great voice actors in Japanese

Sad! Especially considering that most dubshitters probably couldn't even name 5 of the dub actors off of the top of their head anyways

>mfw most dubshitters probably have not touched the manga or even the OG Dragonball

haha

>>384288219
>piccolo and roshi
everyone wants piccolo, roshi is finally fighting in super again, more relevant than he was in DBZ

>>384298775
Jaco will be in for sure. Many people like this fella I think even if he doesn't have much screen time.

>>384299030
>white gi gohan with fusion top shooped on
Try harder

>>384298652
He was wrong to say Beerus, but Whis was straight up training him.

You've never been to a dojo if you think training ONLY means teaching new moves - perfecting and fixing your old habits is the most important thing, though they'll often show you a new thing or two to show you what you can aspire to.

>>384299157
>I'm so sorry sweetie
Opinion discarded, Grandma.

>>384298823
Would definitely welcome this

>>384299031
Why is he the best designed furry in all of DB?

>>384299109
Is NMZ a DB character? Would he be considered a guest or is he like Arale and Jaco?

>>384299086
>30-35 roster of notable Z characters.
lol

>>384299019
it's an iconic move from probably the best drawn episode of the entire series

>whaaa why do people enjoy cool things

>>384299157
How autistic do you have to be to care people's VA preferences

>>384299275
I know this doesn't matter at all either, but I think he's also Toriyama's favorite character he ever made. Jaco would be cool.

>>384299341
NMZ is includes post-EoZ Goku in it.

It's like Jaco but takes place after Z, not during.

>>384299279
Hey man it got a few people

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>>384299341
Because he fucks.

You know this man fucks.

>>384299341
>Arale

Actually a guest character

>Jaco
Takes place in Z's world after Buu Saga

>NMZ
Takes place in Z's world after Uub end.

>>384295641
SSJ3 transformation either uses more bars or it's just the finisher variant of that super move.

>>384299297
>though they'll often show you a new thing or two to show you what you can aspire to.
Yeah, after you actually learn something new and only if they think you can handle it or want to learn it.
Right now Goku and Vegeta haven't even mastered moving without thinking let alone proper mastery of Blue.

>>384299157
You sound way too triggered anon. But I agree the sub>dub, especially when the dub rewrites shit. Like here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I66JVy2FDM shit is straight out of a romcom (7:52) rather than Goku blindly accepting marriage cause he feels like he's obligated. Either way the manga is really all you need.

>>384299019
>every DBZ game ever shows Trunks doing this every time
Really? Please show me when trunks does the same move more than once. Half of his moveset in the games is literally just made up shit.
Burning Attack and Heat Dome are literally his only moves.

>>384297773
What does the hand gestures actually do?
All he did with it was fire a more explosive ki blast.

>>384299421
I enjoyed Trunks vs Mecha-Frieza but in vidya they show Trunks doing this for like 3-4 seconds while in the show it was only brief. Makes it kinda annoying, you know what I mean?

>>384299341
>Is NMZ a DB character?
Half of his manga is a parody of dragon ball, and some of the characters appear in there too, so I guess he can be considered part of the DB franchise, but not in the same level as the other 2.
He was in Supersonic Warriors 2 as a japan only assist, and Kuriza is a Frieza outfit in one of the games, but I doubt they'll consider him for something like this.

>>384299639
>Right now Goku and Vegeta haven't even mastered moving without thinking let alone proper mastery of Blue.
Hence why Goku was only able to do a slow version of Hakai which failed in the end and he only had one shot to do so.

>>384299616
>>Jaco
>Takes place in Z's world after Buu Saga
but that's wrong faggot

>>384299639
>Right now Goku and Vegeta haven't even mastered moving without thinking
Says who?

>>384299907
But Jaco was present during the BoG, which takes place after Buu saga.
Are you feeling okay anon?

>>384299019

This and Heat Dome are literally his only moves, you fucking autist.

>>384292803

Papa Aris better be invited or I'm gonna be pissed.

>>384295641
>Sometimes he goes SSJ3 sometimes he doesn't.
My theory is it's button presses. Sometimes the moves(like his multiple kicks) only kick once because of the button you press/how many times you press it.

>>384299785
Ki manipulation. Same reason Goku always charges a Kamehameha the way he does.

>>384300096
Giving him Masenko and Galick Gun were some of the few good things Super did.

>>384300072
He was, but his "debut" happens before the story of dragon ball starts.

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>>384300129
forgot pic

>>384299513
He looks like a badass triad. This guy alone has more personality than all of Super's furries.

>>384299357
Don't see how that is laughable. SF and GG both have a 23-25 right now and they're games notorious for having semi-small rosters. Adding another 10 or so is not out of reach.

A 20-25 roster will simply be taken with animosity. DBZ has way too many notably characters to draw from, and the game is using a 3v3 system.

>>384300072
You are wrong. Jaco first appeared when Bulma was like 3 years old. They even showed him in the super show in a flashback. Bulma's sister is actually a friend of Jaco.

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>>384300308

>... 20-25...

LOL

>>384295329
The random globs of toothpaste is how Toyo differentiates Blue's aura from normal Super Saiyan and SSG.

>>384298709
Foreshadowing only works when you leave the opportunity open anon. The manga cut off every route for Goku to learn the move.

Beerus doesn't use hakai on the regular and doesn't use it in that pose seeing as he can use the move with a simple tap. Not to mention he's either sleeping or eating on his own.
Whis stopped taking an active part in training once they learned how to use Godly ki.
And Goku was never present to see Beerus hakai Zamasu in universe 10 in the manga which is the only time he uses it in that particular way. It's also worth noting that Goku refers to the move with some negativity as if he saw it used on something living.
And finally Goku doesn't want to become a GoD.

Also I like how you're using the lack of nip speaking anons to an advantage by changing the context of the page.

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>>384299631
>either uses more bars
Still costs 3 bars

>finisher variant
I think I've seen people survive it during EVO while he was SS3

>>384300129
>>384300230
Guess it's the buttons then

GG didn't have that many at launch. Xrd Sign only had 16 characters.

>>384300156
Other characters could do the same thing just by holding out their hand and concentrate, but why does Trunks sperg out with his hands when he does it?

>>384291668
>>384292579
No, he's a ""super"" character and caters to furries and bronies.

>>384300564
it's cool

>>384292923
It's my fear that watching Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Gotenks constantly flying around is going to overload my brain with these powered up screaming blondes everywhere.

>>384300308
Xrd didn't start with 23-25 to start with.

Fucking hell, splitting Super into manga and anime was the worst choice Tori has made so far all its done is apply a Metroid effect to the series.

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>>384292923
hope Kid Goku makes it in too. He was best Goku, and he'd be a very unique addition.

So what are the chances that normal peasants like us without a gorillion sheep on YouTube can get into the closed beta?

>>384300971
0.1%

>>384294482
>taiyoken
That was Tenshinhan's move first. Krillin's a move-stealing fag.

Post more webms. Solar Kamehameha would be appreciated.

>>384300843
>Tournament of Power arc announced
>manga so far ahead of the anime in terms of production that the trailer uses manga panels instead of anime scenes
>think ToP arc will end up benefitting from this with better choreography since they can use the manga as reference
>it's still the same old repeated ATATATATATA shit
Such a disappointment.

>>384301126
Speaking of Tien, what if he uses the multi-form technique in the Tournament and one body is knocked off?

These should be 100% auto-include. Anyone who disagrees is a worthless jabronie.

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Mystic Gohan
>Future Trunks
>Gotenks

>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Yamcha
>Tien
>Satan
>Videl
>Bulma
>Roshi

>Raditz
>Nappa

>Frieza
>Ginyu Force

>Cell
>16
>17
>18

>Fat Buu
>Super Buu
>Dabura

>Broly
>Janemba

>>384295641
That was the 3 bars variant. The 5 bars variant is SS3.

>>384301290
Maybe he could remote control his other selves. Gee, I don't know.

>>384301301
>jabronie
>Reddit spacing

Could you fuck off? You have to go back.

>>384301276
>could have had toyble do storyboards for the anime and converse with Tori and the Toei writers for an anime that's at the very least acceptable
>instead split their work so neither is good
It's such a shame.

>>384301290
That's what I'm hoping happens but that might be too inventive for Dragonball ATATATATATATATATATATA Super.

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>>384300570
>No, he's a ""super"" character and caters to furries and bronies

Are you trying to sic barneyfag on us or are you that fucking stupid?

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>>384301301
>super buu

>>384301301
>two Gohans

Stopped reading right there.

>>384301290
It was merely an illusion
>>384301301
>entire ginyu force
>Yamcha
>Videl
>Raditz
>16
LOL

>>384300812
I don't mind a small launch roster. Adding in characters through season passes is perfectly acceptable if it brings in 30-35 playables. This is a 3v3 game, not your typical 1v1 fighter.

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>>384300507
>Beerus doesn't use hakai on the regular
How would you know that exactly? Also pic related

>Not to mention he's either sleeping or eating on his own.
Except in that pic that was posted.

>Whis stopped taking an active part in training once they learned how to use Godly ki.
Clearly not since in that arc he was watching over their fight and even told them to take a break.

>And Goku was never present to see Beerus hakai Zamasu in universe 10 in the manga
And? That's not the only chance he had to see it. Also he clearly references seeing it before.

>And finally Goku doesn't want to become a GoD.
See >>384298709
>>In literature, foreshadowing is commonly done when a possibility is mentioned, but almost immediately dismissed or disproved. To some readers, they will dismiss the suggested possibility just as the unsuspecting characters do

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>>384301301
Drop Bulma(Satan is already the joke character) and Super Buu (Already got a Buu). Add Cooler, Beerus, and/or Hit. Make Broly normal SSJ, considering 'L'SSJ is fucking massive.

>>384301301
27 characters? Wew lad that's some wishful thinking when they're working from the ground up.

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>>384301608
Yes Broly is big. No, he's not fucking massive like he is in Xenoverse.

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>>384301468
DON'T YOU EVER COMPARE SUPER WITH FIST OF THE NORTH STAR!
HNK IS x-times better that Super.

>>384301789
retard

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>>384301783
But Anon, Xeno-Broly's massiveness is half of his appeal. Make it his install.

>>384301789
That's not the comparison.

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>>384288219
>playing dbz garbage when pic related is a thing

>>384301789
>he doesnt know
0:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6UizFZQFA

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>>384301985
>Blazblue
>RWBY
>Persona
DISGUSTING

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The producer is my sugar mama so I'm guaranteed access to the beta

>>384301301
That roster is shit, lemme raise my autism:

>SSJ Goku
>God or Blue Goku
>Super Vegeta
>Majin or Blue Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Ultimate Gohan
>SSJ Future Trunks
>Rage Future Trunks
>SSJ or SSJ3 Gotenks
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Bardock
>King Piccolo
>Raditz
>Ginyu
>Frieza
>18
>Cell
>Broly
>Videl
>Buu
>Super Buu
>Kid Buu
>Beerus
>Hit
>Rose Black
>Merged Zamasu

>>384301301
>Yamcha
>Videl
>Bulma
>17
>Super Buu

toppest of keks

>>384302316
>>Rage Future Trunks
stopped reading right there

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>>384300507
>>How would you know that exactly?
Because he's either sleeping or eating in both the anime and manga. They even had to wake him up when Champa arrived.
> Also pic related
Thanks for providing the exact example I was referring to here
>doesn't use it in that pose
That you so conveniently cut off. Of course that's anime only so it's not relevant to either of our arguments.

>Except in that pic that was posted.
You mean the page where he isn't actively taking part in the training and only mentioned the act of destroying and not the move Hakai?
>Clearly not since in that arc he was watching over their fight and even told them to take a break
You do know what an "active part" is right?
Sitting down and watching isn't taking an active part and since they learned how to use Godly ki that's all Whis has been doing.

>>384301594
>See >>384298709
>And? That's not the only chance he had to see it. Also he clearly references seeing it before.
Which is the problem, that's the only moment he could possibly be referencing given the he way he performs the technique and how he talks about it.
Feel free to try and find another moment where he could learn it that you can actually prove however

>See >>384298709
See >>384300507
>Foreshadowing only works when you leave the opportunity open anon. The manga cut off every route for Goku to learn the move.

Needless to say Toyble can't write to save his life. It doesn't help that he's retconned the mechanics of Blue several times over now.

>>384302316
>God or Blue Goku
>Majin or Blue Vegeta
>Ultimate Gohan
>Rage Future Trunks
>King Piccolo
>Raditz
>Super Buu
>Rose Black
>Merged Zamasu
lol

>>384302250
I wanna play video games with her.

>>384300121
he doesn't give a shit about DBZ or Anime fighting games

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>>384301301
>>384302316
>Raditz
Why? He is a shitty saiyajin with nothing unique, literally garbage tier

>>384291357
time to 10 roll

fuck you

>>384302803
He has the best names for his attacks though.
>DOUBLE SUNDAY!

>>384302803
DOUBLE SUNDAY

>>384303039
>SATURDAY CRUSH!

>>384291357
If I don't get in I'm killing someone. Why does it have to be closed, anyways? Why not just do a pre-order beta?

>>384290680
Unfortunately I believe it's this.
Rosters are so geared towards Z, let alone the later stages of Z.

It seems ridiculous to me that people like Gotenks is more of a sure fire than Tien, Roshi and Yajirobe, just because he joined later.

>>384302621
Stop fucking replying to him. He's a well known shitposter in the /a/ and /co/ threads he's just going to keep on going
>NUH UH I'M RIGHT BECAUSE HE SAID IT HAPPENS I DON'T HAVE TO SHOW IT
each and every fucking time.

>>384303224
>HERE'S A PRESENT

>>384303337
HOW RUDE!

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namek saga characters or gtfo

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>There won't ever be a Dragon Ball game where you play as Kid Goku, Kuririn, Bulma, Oolong, Launch, etc. to fight against evil Piccolo Daimao, Tao Paipai, General Blue, etc.
Maybe with some roleplay elements where you can discover that China themed world on your flying cloud and also fight dinosaurs or meet Arale in Penguin Village.

Instead they make the 40th generic DBZ fighting game.

>>384302316
>Super characters.

Get that faggot ass autismo shit out of here.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13462572

>>384303538
Oh yeah i love Cui, and Guido, and Not Piccolo, and Not Piccolo kid, and Barnacle head, and Vegetas Tailor.

>>384303538
Ginyu and Recoome are the only ones who have a chance.

>>384303538
>Goku and Frieza are the only relevant ones
At least in the buu saga we had characters that were stronger than Goku.

>>384303605
I can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>384303538
>manlet prince

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>>384303649
>Pic Related is surprise final boss.

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>>384302621
>Because he's either sleeping or eating in both the anime and manga.
Already proven that's not the case. See >>384298709

>doesn't use it in that pose
>That you so conveniently cut off
I didn't bother arguing that point because it was pretty stupid. Through out the series the Kamehameha used both hands, so does Gohan using one hand during the ending Cell saga mean anything? No. There's also Krillin's version of the Solar flare using a slightly different pose from Tien version, pic related with Piccolo using two hands for the special beam cannon. So yeah the pose doesn't mean much, especially since when Beerus himself used it in this arc he post was nothing like in that webm.

Seems like you have no rebuttal in regards to Beerus casually using Hakai on whatever.

>You mean the page where he isn't actively taking part in the training and only mentioned the act of destroying and not the move Hakai?
Wrong again if you read the chapter you would know he was judging their skill in compression to GoD
>Which is the problem, that's the only moment he could possibly be referencing given the he way he performs the technique and how he talks about it.
Wrong he's been training with Whis and Beerus for months so he had lots of chances to see it.

>Needless to say Toyble can't write to save his life.
So no actual argument? Ok.

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>>384302338
>implying we won't get yamcha

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>>384303767
Why would I joke? This new game has good graphics but that's it. It's still just smashing some buttons to get combos. Boring after a few days.

>>384303998
You know that's not the special beam cannon right?

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>>384303993
Not so fast

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>>384304153
Surprise mother fucker.

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>>384304120
Yeah it is

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>>384304278
PSSH, NOTHING PERSONAL KID!

>>384301985
literally a sprite dump and mugen tier. This is nothing but a cheap cashgrab while DBFZ is what arc sys is actually investing time and energy into.

>>384304094
Because there's been a few games set during the DB portion.
Hell Origins 2 even lets you play as Android 8 and Arale

>>384304357
Nigga I'll do it.

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you are all small time

>>384304306
They're two different moves dude.

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>>384304519
Shit, should probably post a pic.

>>384304528
dragon ball is infinite mobage card fodder, holy shit

>>384303993
>>384304153
>>384304278
Christ these are fucking awful

>>384300564
His tribute to Future Gohan who can't sperg out with his hands anymore.

Trips says the next character is a movie villain

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>>384304708
let's not forget when super 17 absorbed cell

>>384304094
>It's still just smashing some buttons to get combos. Boring after a few days.
So like every fighting game?

>>384304876
>when super 17 absorbed cell
Huh, GT is different from how I remember it.

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>>384304876
Don't forget his sister and 16

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>>384304876
or lssj3 oozaru broly

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>>384304708
>mobage card fodder
No, it's infinite arcade card game fodder.

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>>384304034
>implying we'll get a character with only 2 moves

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>>384305039
or majin lssj3 broly

>>384298775
tenshinhan or yamcha, maybe great ape

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>>384304876
here's the actual card for super 17 cell absorbed

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>>384288219
Why are Zbabs so insecure?

>>384305190
>spics
>not insecure

>>384304967
Is that a male or female

>>384305190
>tfw she gets Ultra SSJ in this week's episode
why?

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>>384305190
>The shitstorm that will occur when Goku teaches her SSB and she is confirmed to be not just a minor character

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>>384305089
Don't forget Full Power SSJ4 Broly and Broly GOD

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>>384304762
Dragonball heroes is literally "how CUHRAZY CAN WE GET" the game
this is Ultra Pinich or Ultra Ultimate Fusion, the combonation of Pinich, Cell, and Frieza.

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>>384289860
>>384288776
>>384288219
>there are people who don't want Piccolo, Roshi, Krillin and Gotenks on the roster together

Krillin/Roshi/Gotenks is the dream team, I'd kill to play all three of them together. Roshi and Gotenks on the roster would be fantastic.

>>384305572
>Jaco over arale
>17 over 16
other than that, it's a perfect list for 18 characters