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Why doesn't /v/ hate casuals anymore?

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Why doesn't /v/ hate casuals anymore?
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>>384286092
The casual kiddies grew up and invaded the board.
The oldfags are tired and busy with other stuff.

Just the other day I saw a thread where this faggot was bragging about not having more than 150 hours on any game.
Pathetic.
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>people act retarded
>suddenly retards think they're welcome
Who would have thought all the ironic shitposting and falseflagging would have an outcome like this.
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>>384286092
Hard games are considered autistic now.
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>>384286092
Because they won, and they're in gaming to stay
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>>384286092
I hate Tei
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>>384286092
cuz /v/ is casual now
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>>384287887
I want to fuck Tewi.
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>>384286092
they won the culture war

anyone with like a thousand hours in a single game need not apply
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>>384286092
all the hardcore people went to /vg/ and post in their games general.

/v/ is full of console war leftovers and normies
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>>384286092
/v/ is flooded with flumpskins from r/the_donald now
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>>384286221
Just another case of newer users overtaking the old. People say that constant flow of newcomers are necessary for a community to survive, but at one point, it's stops being worth it for that community to keep going
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How do you pronounce Tewi again?
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>>384286092
Genres with high skill levels stopped innovating so if you want to git gud at something today the chances are the high point of the genre was reached 10 years ago, so every possible strategy has been thoroughly tried, recorded and documented so 90% of the learning curve is scaled by wiki pages and tutorial videos. Only and idiot would actually play a competitive game to learn it.

Also the developers with resources to make proper competitive vidya are all snared in by muh esports money and microtransaction shops, so the optimal design makes even shitty players *think* they are doing well so they keep spending money.
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>>384289224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUYBWhVkKg
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>>384289224
"Tay"
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>>384286092
/v/ hates everything. Especially /v/ itself.
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>>384286092
In 2014 moot chose the casual side.
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>>384289295
You coin up exactly what I hate about competitive gaming. There's almost no experimenting or creativity, just looking at what the big boys do and parroting it as perfectly as you can.
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>>384286092
There are constabtly thelread sup discussing ecelebs like giant bomb and dunkey, constant threads about wharever garbage overwatch churns out, and then usually some political trigger thread for crossposters. 4chan is just casual as fuck and that really shouldn't be surprising at all. It doesnt help that newer generations will grow up on the skill cucking games known as tripleA western titles.

It is what it is anon.
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>>384288629
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Because underage faggots and casuals invaded the board.
There are actually people on this board who think that games as recent as 5th gen are "unplayable" or that games that require you to learn the mechanics are "autistic" or "unfair".
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>>384286092

Because I'm slowly becoming one with old age.
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>>384289295
This is honestly the sort of mental gymnastics casuals use when they dont want to learn a game.
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>>384286092
casual games are comfy now, get with the times
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Dark Souls made casuals and normalfags think they weren't casual anymore, ruining the distinction in the process.
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>>384289782
Is this hiro?
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>>384290198
Unironically this, its a shame that a game so good could pollute the minds of so many people.
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>mfw all these Vanilla WoW threads talking about the good ole days
>mfw you'd get your WoW any era thread shitposted into Oblivion pre-2011
>even fucking Halo and CoD are getting apologists out the ass
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>>384286092
Gaming as a whole is more casual now.The hardcore people left ages ago.
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>>384290478
I really miss the days when /v/ would collectively shitpost to death any attempt to talk about casual games. It was a time when we had taste, pride and standards.
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Being casual is the best way to experience gaming. Why would I want to worsen my experience?
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>>384289607

Yeah but people who do that implement strats they don't truly understand and can be exploited if you are good enough to be aware of what they are doing.
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>>384290698
Now its all gone.
Like drops in a raid.
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>>384290478
Yeah, it's gotten really bad with Halo especially.
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>>384290478
>hating on WoW
Fuck off newfag
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>>384291147
I think that anyone who tries to discuss Halo as if it was an actual game worth talking about should just be underagebanned for a year. Would help a lot in clearing this board of neo-/v/.
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>>384286092
Most of /v/ turned into the casuals they hated 5 years ago. The older anons got jobs and don't have as much time for video games anymore and the younger ones grew up on mobile games and other casualized garbage.
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we reddit now
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Casual is a perspective.
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>>384291170
Im sorry you were 12 when WoW came out and it.was great for you but vanilla wow was considered carebear as fuck when it first came out son.
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>>384291645
Yes, and? Casual =/= bad
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>>384291735
It literally is. Kill yourself.
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>>384291735
T. neo /v/
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>>384291413
Seconding this. If we make talking about casualshit a bannable offensive, it won't take long to get a cleaner board here.
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I hate the devs that pander to them instead. As long as casuals aren't pretending to be legit gameboys for attention I couldn't care less.
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>>384289063
most of the time it's better to end it than to make a sequel
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>>384292086
Where does the line end with casual shit though? We know clearly defined casual crap like almost everything on facebook but you'll always have issues.
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>>384286493
That's nothing new though. That happened for /v/ at least 8 years ago.
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>>384292289
normie games made after 2000 and everything made after 2007
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>>384286092
Too many newfags, we got invaded by hordes of casuals with assfaggots and more recently overshit.
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>>384289295
What the fuck am I reading?
Maybe for shit games but no amount of wiki page reading is going to make you a top level rhythm game player.
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>all this rage at underage users

That's who should fucking be here, not virgins who are mad that they spent the best years of their lives nose-deep in online multiplayer with nothing to show for it but a twin sized bed and a Denny's nametag.
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>>384286092
It's not like this board has people that play videogames anyways
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>>384291413
>>384292445

Banning anime trash and /pol/ or relegating it to vg would have a better effect on the board. Times change oldfag, the people that played halo and cod in their teens are now 20 and above.
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>>384291170
>newfag
If you think WoW was liked around here before, you're probably the one who's new. There weren't really WoW threads in 2007-2008 when I started browsing, and if you made one, you'd be told to fuck off.

And this is coming from someone who enjoyed WoW a bunch.
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>>384286581
Hard games don't sell, senpai.
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/v/ turned into leddit why are you here if you don't like it
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Sjws make casuals seem like friends.
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>>384292445
>>>/vr/
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I'm a newfag from 2010, and even to me, /v/ feels like it's gotten homogenized with all the other major sites and 4chan boards these days.
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>>384292445
>implying anything made between 2000-2007 is worth a shit

I guess there's DMC but I can't think of anything else
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>>384288882
I think you mean all the people that got their fee fees hurt on /v/ went to /vg/.
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Because the casual games tend to be the most enjoyable ones.
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I have become the casual
all I play is hots and the occasional weeb game
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>>384292086
Mods should also ban anyone who says that a game is too "difficult" or "complex" to them. We don't need casualshitters like that here.
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>>384291170
>liking WoW
Consider suicide
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>>384294209
That mindset is how you know youre a casual, as if you werent you'd find more satisfaction out of overcoming challenges and pushing yourself.

Nu-/v/ will call this autism and then go on some mentalgymnastics to justify why they arent casuals for thinking this and how other people are just tryhards for not being shit at the game like them.
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>People on /v/ claim they're not casual.
>RRRREEEEE at fighting games and refuse to play them.
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>>384295186
that's what's called envy of the elite
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>>384295264
Same with shmups and rhythm games. /v/ has always been casualcore.
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>>384295186
I don't give a shit how you like to play games. I just enjoy casual games more myself.
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>>384295569
Yeah because youre a casual anon, thank you for pointing that out again for everyone in the thread. Why dont you just accept that and go on enjoying your casual games?
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Because /v/ have always been the casuals.
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>>384296115
Point to where I ever claimed that I wasn't.
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>>384286092
Because /v/ became the casuals.
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>>384296341
Okay well thank you for you wonderful input anon, anything else you'd like to enlighten people about?
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I don't know but ever since I started play mobages I've had more fun. FGO has top tier gameplay and I just skip the cutscenes.
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>>384296834
>OP asks a question
>answer question
Why does this make you so mad anon? There's nothing wrong with being a casual.
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>>384295186
l play games for entertainment, not as a substitute for homework or whatever.
If l want to push myself, l'll do it in something actually productive.
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>>384297090
>being mad
>this is the mindset of a casual
>I-i dont give a fuck about what you think
You seem to be confused anon, youre the one who sounds angry. Im sorry but I dont have any guides on how to read threads on 4chan for you.
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>>384297525
Nice reading comprehension. I said I don't care how other people like to enjoy games. If you want to play hardcore then go ahead. It doesn't affect me at all.
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FGO has better gameplay than most SE jRPGs.
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>>384297440
>>384297768
I dont inderstand how you guys constantly replying to me and proving my point correct is helping. However since youve been kind enough to openly admit your casual nature would you mind finding a noose?

That way the medium can be rid of the cancer that is your existence lowering the bar on vidya.
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>>384298181
No thanks. 2017 has been a great year for gaming and I'm excited to see what new games are on the horizon.
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>>384298336
Please kill yourself anon, its for the good of the nation.
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>>384298010
Fate should have stopped after hollow ataraxia.
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>>384298489
>caring about anyone but yourself
lol no
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>>384286092
>Why doesn't /v/ hate casuals anymore?

because they won

video games are now as derivative as movies
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Fucking casuals
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Remember when /v/ lost it's shit about stuff like League of Legends and Katawa Shoujo because they weren't "real games"?
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Gen Z is taking over and they are ultra-casuals.
I mean, this is the generation that grew up watching BBT while playing shitty iphone games.
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>>384289782
artist's name?
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>>384298583
Don't you mean "Fate should keep after hollow ataraxia."?
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>/v/ is now overrun with casual furfaggot memespouting redittors
>it's too late to stem the tide
Whoever came up with the "ignore it and it'll go away" mentality needs to be shot for this. Before, when any of the aforementioned threads were made they'd be sage bombed into oblivion. Somewhere along the line it became """autism""" to tell undesirables to fuck off, so here we are.
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Because casual games are fun and that's the whole point of playing video games. If it's not fun, why bother?
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>>384286092
What anime is this?
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>>384299428
It's not fun if the game is playing itself and it jerks you off for doing nothing other than a very simple button press here and there. The whole game could be one large series of quick time events for all it matters.
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>>384289063
A steady flow of newcomers is good when they're small enough to be forced to adapt to the existing board culture. Too many and they overwhelm the existing users and the old board culture dies.
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>>384299428
How the fuck is it fun when you're being treated like a retard throughout a play through? Or 'playing' an interactive movie with shit writing?
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>>384286092
Moderation meant loliposting and other useful cancer doesn't scare away the normalfags anymore.
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>>384286092

You can't make fun of casuals without people getting angry irl at you anymore.

>"BUT THAT'S HOW HE WANTS TO PLAY WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH BUAH BUAH"

/v/ got bullied into changing
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90% of /v/ found 4chan post 2010

they are of the "no time for battle frontier because of smartphones" generation
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Because story in video games has gotten better
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>tfw being a purist who will not consider a game good if it has to rely on its "story" or "graphics" or "pandering"

You give me a good challenging product or I happily trash your game with the rest of the refuse.
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Because today's casuals might become tomorrow's brother
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>>384301432
Good thing only a very small minority share your shitty view
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>>384301615
>le minority is wrong meme
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>>384298650
>T. why trump won and why he will win again 2020
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>>384302369
Why is it a bad thing that the better of the two options won?
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>get a job
>no time for videogames anymore
>can't shit on gen z and millenials on /v/ anymore
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>>384302358
3/4 of those games are good though
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>>384302765
Get a part time job
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>>384302802
>3/4 of those cinematic movies are good
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>>384302931
Last time I checked, every game on there but Gone Home has gameplay
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>>384303075
The DVDs for most movies have gameplay too, in the form of requiring you to press a button before you're allowed to watch the movie. That don't make them good.
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>>384298010
Why must you be so useless, Boudica
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>>384303173
I don't think you can call something a movie if it only lasts for 2 minutes
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I blame reddit.
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>>384303414
If gameplay was not the highest priority, then I can indeed call it a movie.
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>>384303712
I don't think any movie buff would I agree with you on that one
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>>384303886
>Holly wood shills wouldn't agree
You don't say!
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>>384304203
>anyone who doesn't agree with me is a shill
The sad state of /v/
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It's too difficult to keep hating something for years. Really tires you out. Plus, it's just video games. As long as games that I like keep coming out, I'm fine with whatever other people enjoy coming out, too. The only exceptions that come to mind, though, are people who praise WoW and FFXIV as the best MMORPGs currently available because those games actually killed the genre and caused games I liked to either die or get changed dramatically, so they can fuck off.
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Everybody grew up
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>>384286092
We don't?
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>>384286092
Because they are the majority now.
I remember some guy in a thread saying you shouldn't save your stat boosting stuff for the endgame because you can look up a guide so that you don't waste the items on a character that doesn't need them, then he tried to defend using guides instead of playing and finding out for yourself what units are shit or good and when you should use them.
It's over, the casuals are /v/ now.
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>>384286092
Isn't that a gif of gook moot?
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>>384290343
Yes
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>>384286092
They are the casuals now.
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>>384290921
This only works until you get up to a high enough skill that people actually do understand why the strats work, at which points you generally adopt the strats or lose. You aren't going to chance upon some overpowered new strat that the guys playing the game as an actual job didn't find.
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>>384306619
>Saving stat boosting items for late game

People who do this crap and won't use consumables because "but I can't buy that" drive me up the wall. You aren't going to boot up the game in 10 years, see your inventory with 10 elixirs in it from various treasure chests throughout the game, and then go "aaah yes, I'm so glad I didn't use those consumables".
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>>384286092
Because everyone who was around when video games were just an enthusiast hobby grew up and stopped caring. Now video games are a cultural norm, everyone plays them so it doesn't matter anymore. We can consider it as casuals invading our site but in reality we are the old lions being pushed out of the pride.
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What actual games are you giys talking about desu? I feel like you would all start arguing with each other if names were mentioned.
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Why would anyone care if someone plays casually? It doesn't affect them what someone else does.
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Because I realized that 'casual' players of games are fine.

Its the whining faggots who cry that they died in a PVP game, or MMO players who just want to pay 2 win everything that I hate even more.
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>>384309493
Battletoads.
No one on /v/ has ever 100% the game.
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>>384309587
I meant on the "casual as shit and talking about it should be banned" side.
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>>384309532
The people who were once casuals now just watch games on Twitch. Streamers and esports are the cancer that are killing gaming now.
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>>384309881
Mobage of course.
Cellphone games are cancer.
Aside from brick breaker and Bejeweled.
Someone F/GO and Granblue Fantasy.
>>384310112
Is also correct. Ecelebs are cancer and esports became too popular for their own good.
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>>384286092
2007 was ten years ago. 2007! Height of Western gaming's Gilded Age, where the needs for skill and strategy were discarded in favor of pandering to the lowest common denominator, where game design began to be done by focus groups and accountants rather than by developers, and where focusing on debased, streamlined annual sequels made so much money and impressed so many corporate overlords that any voice to the contrary was silenced. Every year afterwards has tried to be 2007, to diminishing returns. And that was ten years ago. Many casuals who were underage then, who never consciously knew a world in which there was not an Xbox and who never set foot in an arcade, who have never heard their princess was in another castle or played a fighter that wasn't hacked apart into paid DLC characters and "balanced" so that losing gives you more powerful moves faster than winning does or even threw their controller down in rage when they couldn't find the necessary key in the Water Temple, are old enough to post here. They never got a chance to be anything but casual, nor did they make any effort to seek such chances out. And they are here in vast numbers now.
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Because there's nothing wrong with being casual
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>>384310112
I don't mind streamers since people that watch them don't care much for actually playing video games anyway. Esports are cancerous as fuck, multiplayer games are in this shitty limbo where the developers want them to have as widespread appeal as possible by being simple to learn and fairly casual but also "competitive".
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>>384309881
FFXIV, WoW, etc.
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>>384286092
Thank you for the Tewi pic op.
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>>384310586
There used to be a time when MMOs were nothing but fat introverts living in their basements.
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>>384286092
Why is she making that face?
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>>384309881
anything mass marketed is a pretty good catch all
Because some of the psychological warfare components of marketing, anything with a large campaign is going to sacrifice gameplay and challenge in order to sell more.
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>>384291147
>>384291413
Explain why Halo games are bad. Not why it's a worse than its competitors, but why it's bad, why it's "a game not worth talking about".
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>>384310859
Those aren't casuals though.

And I miss casual grinding in MMOs, such as camping in EQ or farming mats in WOW when crafting was worth a fuck.
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>>384286092

Because now /v/ is the casuals.
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>>384286092
I want to lick Tewi's bunny cunny.
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>>384311514
2 weapon limit
dedicated grenade button instead of having it being a weapon
console aiman assistan makes it braindead easy
godawful level design
regenerating shields instead of just hp
influenced more games with that crap
it has ok music though
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>>384286092
Because newfags weren't fucking forced to lurk because /v/irgins got lazy and a bunch of Redditors flooded in and turned this into their safe space for casual faggotry.
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>>384312321
You don't need to post that.

It's redundant, we all do
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>>384313097
>le lurk meme
Shit is stupid and no one ever does it
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>>384313360
I came here from newgrounds and I lurked at least a year before even posting once.
Redditors are just incapable of tact or assimilation.
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>>384313702
Literal cuck
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>>384311514
FPS games on consoles were made fun of and complete trash forever, because everyone knew that a controller would never come close to a mouse.

Halo had the crowning acheivement of massively dumbing down fps games to make a game that was ultimately bad, but playable on a console. Cue hundreds of rehash shooters that use extremely similar mechanics and idiots lap up.
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Reddit boogeyman representing "anything I don't like" is more annoying than actual Redditors, it's just an extension of the identity politics bullshit that's infested everything else.
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>>384312494
>2 weapon limit
a ton of fps have a limit to the number of weapons you can carry at once, why is 2 especially bad? if anything it forces the player to pick a strategy instead of hoarding power weapons and being an unstoppable swiss army knife

>dedicated grenade button
grenades in halo are more of an assisting tool than a standalone weapon, there are grenade launcher weapons for this purpose

>console aim assist
pretty much necessary to make it playable using a gamepad, or nobody would ever hit anything - obviously a PC version wouldn't have it

>level design
subjective, but i'd like to know why it's bad

>regen shields
actually agree with this, prevents players from being punished for mistakes, a lost engagement can be tried again simply by hiding for a few seconds
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>>384313849
thank you for proving my point
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>>384313360
Hello faggot newfag redditor casual scumbag.
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>>384314108
>>384314183
You can leave if you want you know. No one wants you here if all you're going to do is bitch and complain
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>>384314339
Or I could stay here.
And call you nigger.
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>>384314472
And what does this accomplish exactly? Because you're not going to get me to leave.
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>>384295264
>>384295549
>fighting games and rhythm games are not casual

fuck off new fags, fighting / rhythm games are for babies
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>>384314472
>>384314183
>>384313849
>>384313360
The state of /v/ posters, probably posting from an iPhone 7 plus
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>>384314668
Phoneposting should really be removed from the site, it would make everything so much better. I don't mind letting them lurk but they should not be able to post.
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>>384315106
Phoneposters are half the traffic and all of the worst content.
Would be easy to do as well.
Of course doing it would somewhat expose hiro's lies about bandwith being a problem.
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>>384309034
Yeah but the issue was that he was using a guide because he couldn't handle wasting a consumable item.
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>>384315241
I phonepost so i can play battleborn on my playstation at the same time

Oldfag btw been here since 2016
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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