A new Obsidian Fallout, will it ever happen, /v/ ?

I hope so.

No. Obsidian is dead anyway.

>>384278321
Duh, who doesn't? The question is. is it realistic? I kinda feel like Bethesda is butthurt that Fallout fans prefer NV over F3

Even if it did it wouldn't be even remotely as good as New Vegas. Most of the staff that made it great has left, and the new engine is fucking abysmal. The most they can do is attempt to unfuck the engine like they did with the first one, which will at least give modders something to work with.

It won't happen but it'd be cool to see Bethesda make games for normies set on the east coast and Obsidian make games for neckbeard virgins set on the west coast.

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Move over

I'd like to go back to the west coast and visit Arroyo post-GECK. Maybe go further up north and see what the pacific northwest hipsters are doing. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire states of Oregon and Washington would have joined the commies who came through Alaska.

I'd rather see a New Vegas remake just so we could have more Legion content

>>384278558
>Most of the staff that made it great has left
oh no, I didn't know that, damn, everything videogames goes to shit...

>>384278230
hopefully not

>>384279254
we could have entirely new legion content in nv 2 though
legion ending would be canon oc!

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>>384279254
Despite how much legion content was left on the cutting room floor, the biggest issue with the game is still the shit engine and bugs as the norm rather than the exception.

>>384279357
why?

>>384278462
>>384278230

Bethesda gave Obsidian a chance and they couldnt cut it, why would we give them another?

> I kinda feel like Bethesda is butthurt that Fallout fans prefer NV over F3

Not true, both Fallout 3 and 4 sold far more than NV.

What are some QoL mods you'd recommend for NV?

>>384279516
Because NV was a bad game?

>>384279490
Is there a mod for pic related?

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I hope not. Glad they're working on their own IPs instead. Pillars of Eternity is great and 2 looks even better.

>>384278230
if that happened it would be sjw shit, old obsidian is dead and it will never return.

>>384279524
>why would we give them another?
why not?
>Not true, both Fallout 3 and 4 sold far more than NV
that does in no way falsify my hypothesis

>>384279624
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35526/?
I can't play without it anymore.

>>384279697
This. I'd rather they make their own shit and not ruin anymore IP with their leftist agenda.

>>384279658
No I just made it when I was supremely bored and checking the authenticity of the Mojave of the game using google maps.

>>384279524
>Not true, both Fallout 3 and 4 sold far more than NV.
Of all the gamebryo Fallouts, New Vegas has the highest user score. Fallout 3 is slightly behind and Fallout 4 is by far the worst by a large margin.

>>384279897
This. Obsidian are great and they shouldn't continue to be stuck to adaptations.

>>384279524
in Steam reviews:

New Vegas: 95% thumbs up
Fallout 3: 80% thumbs up
Fallout 4: 78% thumbs up

>>384279897
all developers have a leftist agenda nowadays...
everything mainstream has a leftist agenda...

evil is taking over

>>384278230
>fallout 2 new vegas

>>384278558
>Even if it did it wouldn't be even remotely as good as New Vegas. Most of the staff that made it great has left, and the new engine is fucking abysmal. The most they can do is attempt to unfuck the engine like they did with the first one, which will at least give modders something to work with.
>NV engine
>better than FO4's

Besides, if Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity are any indication Obsidian has lost it's writing charm. Avellone is a fucking cuck and the entire company now reeks of SJW shit.

>>384278230
Controversial opinion coming in: Neither Bethesda nor Obsidian are able to handle fallout. Bethesda is greedy and tries to appeals to the lowest common denominator and veterans at the same time, alienating both. Obsidian handles the dev side well, but they have no clue to run a business. If they did, NV would have been finished on time (a year is actually a long time if you consider its the same engine and assets and that Van Buren laid some groundwork for the story).

I'd like to see it go the way of someone else entirely, though I have no idea who.

I'd like to see it in Texas, Florida, Louisianna, or NY probs.

>>384279763
Oldsidian was pretty SJW, too.

What with all the lesbians in NV.

>I'm more hyped for a new Vegas mod than I am for any Bethesda made fallout game
Who's /frontier/ here?

What if Todd is homophobic and just hates Tim Caine

>>384280845
To be fair, Frontier may aswell be a whole new game.

>>384280741
I'd love to see a Fallout Texas. I want more of that 'ole west feel.

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>>384280810
>mere existence of homosexuals is SJW

>>384280741
>I'd like to see it go the way of someone else entirely, though I have no idea who.

/v/ thought me that cd projekt red are the last hope of vidya so there you go

cyberpunk 2077 will be the "fallout" we've been waiting for

>>384280478
/pol/-->

>>384281023
it is when 80% of the population is either gay or bi

>>384280704
Tyranny I could understand as being a bit sjw but what in Pillars was? There weren't any real themes or anything in the game.

>>384281165
like how all your companions in F4 are bi?

>>384281165
there are like 4 at most...

>>384280478
What happened?
Writers like Avelone and Sawyer used to be able to curtail such views with pragmatism. Is it peer pressure or just a change of views?

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>>384281165
>80% of New Vegas's population is gay or bi

>>384281141
will you keep enjoying your games even if the next ones on your favorite series will have a reboot and change the main character to black transgender communist?

>>384281204
That's just the point. Pillars was scrubbed clean of any themes or personality because of that "transphobic" shitstorm.

>>384281313
That's just Bethesda pulling a bioware and being lazy.

>>384280845
Mark my words, frontier will be a letdown. From what I heard here you can only side with the NCR. I also don't have faith in the writing because more talented "story" modders like Someguy aren't on the team.

>>384281070
Fallout is based around American locations, American culture, and American history. I wouldn't trust it in the hands of foreign devs.

>>384281332
it sells, its that simple. They're not forcing an agenda on gamers, gamers are forcing it on them

>>384281379
>game talks about sjw topics and it's sjw
>game doesn't talk about sjw topics in a negative light then it's sjw
:^)

>>384281427
>I wouldn't trust it in the hands of foreign devs

Can't do worse than bethesda. Also they know how to do research. Also a fallout game on a famous european city would be great

>>384281548
>fallout outside of America
Leave

>>384281543
No, it's more that they went out of their way to not have anything that may be seen as offensive. It leads to it being very bland.

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Fuck Fagout Jew Gayass

>>384280704
>obsidion's new crpgs
>sjw
nah, not really. They never shove any belief system down your throat, and the world building is overall good. You always have a way to say 'fuck you guy' to whatever comes your way. They're far better titles than about 95% of the trash that gets pumped out now days, and some of the few remaining genuine RPGs still being released.

If Obsidian wants to have some gay or bi or trans shit, okay, I can just ignore it and keep playing my RPG. The themes are non-existant in the grand scheme of the game, background noises to the overarching plot threads.

>>384278230
I know it's not realistic, and it almost certainly wouldn't happen with Obsidian. However, I wouldn't mind seeing Bethesda do something of a deal where it alternates Fallout games with a new company each time.

So if the first company was Obsidian, then for the next "in-between" Fallout game, it's another company, and Bethesda offers a new company each time, or different companies bid for the chance. So a breakdown like;

>Fallout 3 = Bethesda
>Fallout NV = Obsidian
>Fallout 4 = Bethesda
>Fallout Something = Some other company, not Obsidian
>Fallout 5 = Bethesda
>Fallout Whatever = Some other company, not the one from Fallout Something


And repeat ad infinitum. So each inbetweener game is still "Fallout" but we get to see a new and unique interpretation of it by different companies each time, to hold us over between each major Bethesda release. That way Todd and Stinky Pete's "vision" for the franchise gets to be maintained with the major releases, and the inbetweeners are totall experimental.

>>384281809
You gotta be kidding me. PoE I can see as non-sjw, but Tyranny? C'mon son.

>>384281548
When it comes to things like this living is miles better than the best research can be. if a foreign dev makes it it will likely either be more of a caricature than it is, unrecognnizable, or soulless.

>>384281735
Is this real?

>>384281809
they're bad games, pol or not. Obsidian has no clue how to make something without fallout in the title

>>384281942
This is what I was getting at in my other post

>>384278462
Why would they be butthurt? Their product sold over ten times what Obsidian's did and that's all that matters.

>>384281427
>it sells, its that simple.
As a lot of recently made games with that content shows. No, it doesn't and no one forces them into it.

>>384281970
you can argue Tyranny is anti-sjw since you spend all the game killing feminists from a feminist utopya

>>384282305
>Their product sold over ten times what Obsidian's did and that's all that matters.
They refuse to anknowledge New Vegas

>>384279801
>>384279976
>>384280262
>I don't understand how capitalism works.

>>384282335
Overwatch is a terrible aping of a free to play game (tf2) except it sells for $40 and has sjw shit.

It is more popular than tf2. It sells.

>>384278230
Nobody worthwhile is still at Obsidian and they're working on their own shitty games now. Fallout is dead and has been since 3

>>384280478

science-fiction in general has always been leftist

>>384280741
>(a year is actually a long time if you consider its the same engine and assets and that Van Buren laid some groundwork for the story).
You underestmate how unworkable Gamebryo is.

>>384282305
>>384282463
are you retarded? it really isn't that hard to understand

>>384282514
>nobody worthwhile
>all 7 fallout 1 and 2 main developers are at obsidian except ca
oh okay I see youre a fucking dweeb

>>384281427
>Fallout is based around American locations, American culture, and American history. I wouldn't trust it in the hands of foreign devs.
GTA were made by Brits and they're the most fucking American games on the planet.

>>384281332
Nothing. Retards just read shit into innocuous or normal vidya so they can get upset, and fight their little culture war for self importance.

>>384282463
3 didn't sell that much more than NV and it cost Bethesda next to nothing to produce. You're the one that understand capitalism.

>>384282773
They're not the same people they used to be

>>384282446
>refuse to acknowledge New Vegas

Not totally true, there were multiple references to it in Fallout 4. I think maybe as a company they don't like it, but for the purpose of the franchise, the games and the setting/lore, they're willing to recognize that it's part of the big picture and is a valid entry to the franchise.

>>384282113

>Is this real?

I just checked his twitter and unfortunately it is. Its a new low for him.

>>384282509
I quite remember it being bashed for the "overlysexualized" design and "sexist" themes. And its only had "liberal" stuff to curtail that criticism.

>>384278230
I hope not, New Vegas was trash.

>>384282849
You sure?
Its not blatant, but its noticeable. It would help if it was written in the background, but they make it pop-out like it was the only thing of importance once its mentioned.

>>384283058
>it was real in my mind

>>384282750
I don't think you understand the concept of vocal minorities.
Most of Bethesda's audience plays on console and browses Fakebook rather than Steam and /v/.

Fallout Newer Vegas

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>Nu Vegas 2
You gotta be fucking kidding me, bro

>>384283243
>this shit meme again
Here's a (you) just because it never fails to make me mad

>>384279027
it doesn't have to have new in the title amigo

also we already had multiple swamp areas

give me alaska or hawaii

>>384282335
afaik certain "companies" and "fund-raisers" give millions of dollars to developers who help spread their agenda, and threaten with the opposite if they don't

>>384278230
Maybe after Obsidian releases PoE2.

>>384281332
Nothing happened. They're just able to express it more openly now than they were 20 years ago.

>>384283513
Maybe the gameplay won't be shit this time around

>>384283243
>>384283328

He's a retard but I wouldn't want to see a New Vegas 2 either. The setting is used, there are plenty of other good locations in the U.S., and Obsidian is a shadow of the NV team.

>>384282884
Bethsda profits more off of their own work. It's why Nintendo remains a first party developer despite it making little market sense otherwise.

>>384283595
Not really. Not in the case of Sawyer anyway. He has changed and even said so himself.

It's not so much about "leftism", though. He just full on hates his audience.

>>384282941
What the fuck??? Is nu-Obsidian trying to be nu-Blizz?

>>384283862
Nintendo is 1st party because it makes games for kids and does it better than anyone else. Self respecting adults would definitely not like being caught playing a nintendo game, but nintendo are the only dev that makes good games not rated M.

>>384283862
They may make more profit per unit but you have to consider the fact that having someone develop a game using a pre-made engine and pre-made models is incredibly cheap. They would have to put in almost no effort and they would get the lions share of the profit. That's the reason they made that deal with Obsidian in the first place. This is not about money. So trying to boil it down to NV sold less=no NV2 is incredibly simplistic.

>>384281942
>comparing Todd to Pete

Toddposters, everybody

>>384278462
>I kinda feel like Bethesda is butthurt that Fallout fans prefer NV over F3

Speak for yourself, m8

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No, New Vegas fags are the worst.

>>384284350
>Nintendo is 1st party because it makes games for kids and does it better than anyone else. Self respecting adults would definitely not like being caught playing a nintendo game, but nintendo are the only dev that makes good games not rated M.
Then why don't they release those games on platforms that kids actually want to own?

Never because Bethesda is butthurt that that Obsidian actually gave a damn about the first 2 games

>>384285185
pretty sure that can be modded in F3 as well

>>384285185
link please

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>E3 2018
>FNV2 announced
>developed by Gearbox

Post your face when.

>>384282894
Not that anon but how so?

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>>384285563
>Gearbox

>>384285308
The switch is basically a mobile device.

>>384285649
see >>384281735
At least they havent fallen as far as blizzard, I guess

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>>384285649
they were killed and replaced with reptilian far-left clones

>>384285885
So you're problem is that a dev who works for obsidian is gay? okay

>>384279524
>Not true, both Fallout 3 and 4 sold far more than NV.

I won't question the numbers on 4 (that game had at least 12 million copies sold in preorder alone) but I'm going to want numbers on 3. Console numbers are much harder to come by but the Steam numbers are sort of available with Steamspy.

Some crude arithmetic applied to the data on Steamspy's pages suggests about 1.682 copies of New Vegas activated on Steam for every copy of Fallout 3 but the concurrent user numbers are all out of proportion to that. Box copies with GFWL activation that didn't get their codes reupped into Steam versus those that did is impossible to say with real confidence, but it's unlikely that the boxed PC version of Fallout 3 in standard and GOTY packaging combined sold more than two million copies we can't track because the games were on Steam from launch and PC users had already migrated to digital in a much bigger way than console users by 2008.

Last datapoint - it's purely trivial and not that interesting, but Fallout 4 has fewer Steam owners than New Vegas, and even the number presented (4.5 million) is misleadingly high due to a free weekend the game had back in May.

>>384285064
>I kinda feel
>Speak for yourself
This anon is literally retarded, why does your carer let you visit 4chan, that's very irresponsible.

>>384283159
Well strictly according to statistics the average videogame player is a middle-aged woman. Millions consuming a product doesn't mean it isn't utter trash. Fallout started as a CRPG and was successful at it. Successful at catering to the audience it partially created all by itself. Minecraft was always a bunch of Legos for autists and that's why it has sold and still is selling gorillions. Fallout 4 does not cater to people who enjoy CRPGs. Fallout 4 also is just Legos for autists, and I would have no problem with it if Bethesda let someone competent make Fallout 4 and just made their crafting simulator as a separate IP.

>>384285185
>offspring in goodsprings

really x my y

>>384286029
No it's that he's using apostrophes to describe his fantasy of someone he finds attractive on social media others can see. When creepy neckbeards do it to girls it's just as bad.

>>384286532
>legos for autists
My sides

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>>384285563
>Gearbox

>>384286743
And how does that affect game development in the slightest?

>>384283154
Do you even have one? Or do you not play RPG's in general?

>>384283595
Mostly this. Avellone and Sawyer like many writers their age are bitter about the fact they are not big time award winning authors with top selling books published.

>>384279524
>Bethesda gave Obsidian a chance and they couldnt cut it
Fallout 4 got the exact same metacritic score as New Vegas and that's not including user reviews which are skewed in NV's favor.

Hey New Vegas friends, I just got the game
What are the essential mods? Graphics stuff? I heard the game is prone to crashing. Anything for that?
Nothing too extra, just QoL stuff.

>>384287064
>if you don't have the same stupid biases as me you must be stupid

Okay. And yes I play RPG's. Dummy.

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>>384285563

>>384287263
what is google

go to nexus mods and get the unofficial patch, you don't need anything else for the first playthrough

>>384285563
>Gearbox
I hope you're joking. Do you want to know how despised Gearbox is in the industry right now? NINTENDO didn't even want to give them the time of day for any opportunities for a third party release of any of their games on Switch. Nintendo, a company currently busting their ass to get third party support and advertised their list of devs putting out third party titles on the Switch, did not want to associate with them. Bethesda's not known for good decisions but they're not known for intentionally killing their own profits.

>>384287679
There's 900,000 mods for this game, touch hole
Are talking about Yukichigai Unofficial Patch?

>>384280741
You forgot that Bethesda makes their games 5 years, evry single one,since they gone big and evil.

Honestly, if Obsidian made FONV as isometrical WRPG no one would buy it(from console crowd) but it would be an glorious game, instaclassic, even in gamebryo with F3 assets.
Game would sold around 2 mill over whole lifespan(ccouple of years),80% on pc, it would cost next to nothing.

I feel FONV was last dance,goodbay and fuck off old fans, go ,grow up,marry,have kids and sell your pc,forget about Fallout,Interplay,Black Isle and any brains involved, after this one itsnew age for new gen who grew up on minecraft ,halo,cod:mw ,gow and skyrim and zhey are conditioned from childhoodnthat games are absolutely non demanding, no numbers of any sort ,god forbid, or GURPS&AD&D,SPECIAL or the sort.
From now on, its Call of Duty: PostmodernWarfare 56 ™

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zfgnuabLeBY

>>384287263
Are you familiar with the basic steps to setting up mods? There's good guides out there but the game is unfortunately not 100% ready to mod out of the box.

Most mods can be found on Nexus. Every one I'll recommend below is available on Nexus except for New Vegas Script Extender, which you have to download straight from Silverlock.

For a long list of bugs there's Yukichigai's Unofficial Patch (YUP) and for memory-related problems the 4GB executable. For more advanced performance stability improvements you'll need New Vegas Script Extender and with that New Vegas Anti-Crash (it prevents a number of known crashes the unofficial patch can't fix) and New Vegas Anti-Stutter (it's important to read a detailed guide on how to install this mod correctly but it is absolutely worth it for everyone). There's more advanced tweaks and improvements to be done like cleaning up the plugins using xEdit but just getting those few things up will see big bonuses to stability.

Graphics mods are a lot dicier. They're done by many different modders working with different ideas and techniques. There isn't something equivalent to Shadow of Chernobyl's Complete mods for graphical overhaul. NMC Texture Pack is a good choice for environment textures. The improved LOD noise texture is very handy. There's others but that's a really good place to start. There's replacement models, animations, textures, lighting, and sound for New Vegas but I've never really gotten into it to the degree that I could give you a list that works together well, is stable, and looks right. Sorry.

>>384287191
what?
First of all Sawyer isn't a "writer", and Avellone doesn't want to do novels, he's a comic book nerd and that's what he's always enjoyed.

What I meant to say is that they've always been SJWs, but 20 years ago they couldn't fully express it. Tabletop players from the 70s are massive betas.

>>384288243
>Are you familiar with the basic steps to setting up mods?
Kinda. I used to do alot of Knights of the Old Republic modding and the likes, but that was basically copying shit into an Override folder.

I check out all these mods. Thanks anon. I appreciate it

>>384283881
>He just full on hates his audience.
No he doesn't. He loves the tabletop audience, which he considers his audience for his games. That's why he designs them to be as free as possible in terms of player agency - see FNV. He recently talked about how PoE2 is going to follow in those steps because that's what he loves doing and that's what he'll keep doing regardless of how many people like or not.

>>384278558
where did they go?

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>>384288243
Do I need to use Nexus Mod Manager for the Texture pack?

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>>384283243

>that pic
Mountains out of molehills, holy shit.

>>384288232
That review is barely half a step above HBomberguy ripping off other people's commentary. At least Razorfist limits himself to only swiping play footage from other people's videos when talking about games he never played.

>>384288842
The big sticks got scattered into the wind.

>>384289065
I don't think so. You just need a tool for managing load order. Fallout Mod Manager would do, but Nexus or Mod Organizer might be more convenient, especially if you decide to get into heavy modding later.

>>384288116
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>384281681
Really? Because there's a quest where a whore is raped and you can decide what to do with her.

Maerwald also describes raping a couple of people.

Did you even play the game?

>>384288116
Why are you so defeatist? My chad and tyrone friends (people who bring home different girls every week and either played basketball/football in hs and college) who like NV better than 4 and didn't even know there were fallouts before 3.

There is an audience for these games, and plenty of married and young adults still want the fallout experience. I think the older style of fallouts have another 10 years on them if they are handled well.

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>>384283243
Fuck, this guy is dumb.
FONV is only Bethesda game where npcs at least feel like people who live there,
even Morrowind(great game btw, no beef against it), game that put Bethesda on map could thank to arhaic textwalls so people dont feel like utter dollsbtrapped in time and space.


Problem with Bethesda is that they ARE consolecentric since Oblivion(!Morrowind came for xhueg but no one noticed) and they design them from the core with joypad,dudebros,peasants,dont want to read ,story,meaningful quests or interact with world any way except by shooting at them all+epic Hollywood moment every 30 hours(so basicaly at startand at the end).

Thats modern Bethesda, and they cant change their bussiness model because bussiness.
Fuck sake, Skyrim Remake!?, Fallout4 VR, Fallout on s!martphones, 1997-1999 is spinning in its grave, they would be literally crucified by press in pre 2000 era, they would bancrupt so fast, Todd would make tetris clones on GameMaker for Android.
Whole gen of really dumb gamers were breed by x360 and i dont know when /if it will ever pass?!
Gaming took a fucking wrong turn in 2002-201#, there is some light but major part the gaming "culture" got REALLY REALLY shallow.

Even if Obsidian were to make another fallout game where would they set it?

West coast is done to death now and you would have to be scraping the barrel for new and intresting ideas. East coast is Besthesda's realm and going North to Portland doesn't exactly fit the "Wasteland" feel that Fallout is known for. Plus sometimes it's better to let a Franchise die a graceful death than be milked until the orginal is nothing more than a corpse.

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>>384278230
They won't do it, because they know it'll set the trend, 'Skip Bethesda and buy Obsidian'. They have to keep it from Obsidian, so they make all the money and not have to give them a cut.

>>384278230
Of course not, Obsidian showed Bethesda they incompetent by turning down Bethesda's offer of all the resources and funding Obsidian could want.

Obsidian is foing to keep plopping out bad games until they either fade into obscurity or go bankrupt.
Bethesda is never going make them a second offer.

>>384290136
It's been mainly rumored to be based in New Orleans

>>384290883
>keep plopping out bad games
>has only put out good games since new vegas

ITT
>Obsidrones cry about how everything is Bethesda's fault and how they're just mad that NV is a good game
Obsidian are the ones who said they didn't want to make Fallout games anymore, Bethesda thought they were geniuses and wanted them to be the primary Fallout developer, but when they made an offer Obsidian said no.

>>384278230
New Vegas was shit.

So hopefully no.

>>384278230
Who cares? New Vegas was just Fallout 3 with better writing; so a new Obsidian Fallout game would just be Fallout 4 with better writing; unfortunately, the base game of Fallout 4 was crap. The writing was the least of that fucking game's problem.

>>384291192
There's no sense in arguing with you because you think Pillars is a well made game, when in reality it repeats the mistakes of older games in hopes that it'll be viewed in the same light, but it isn't.
Because they had no reason to make those mistakes.

>>384279697
PoE was fucking trash and you'd know that if you played any actually good cRPG that it so desperately tries to copy.

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>>384291474
>New Vegas
>good writing

>>384291285
I would like to see a source on this.

>>384291804
New Vegas has exceptionally well writing for a video game, fuck off.

>>384290136
Borders or pockets of life in deadzones around flyoverstates...
ElPaso, Seattle,maybe even across the border into Canada(annexed) or Mexico(radioactive Los Zetas :)), Columbian GMO Turbo-coke.

Even if Falloutbis vagulely postpost apoc, i think food,medicine,bullets,weapons,alcohol,ciggaretes,drugs,knowledge,functional factories,infrastructure,transport,education,technology ,resources(lastly,peace&security) would still be mayor motivator for any government/warlord/faction and therebis a lot of stuff could be done there if fucking Bethesda didnt took SimCity/Towerdefense for Morons route.

Problrm with Bethesda is, they dont know how to make it personal as hell for you the gamer, and thats most important thing in OW SP, no one gives a shit about saving world,
and, killing your wife/husband was halfassed(like it or not but Last of Us didna great job there,thats whats missing to all Bethesda games).
Check Gerald, you actualy give a shit about him, and you would even if you made face of the character(he has more personality this way but point still stands).
Fallout 4 is: some mix of young Robert De Niro gets frozen, they tookurjobs,you get gun and piu,piu,piu,bang,zaap across the wasteland, when you come to your kid, your head is so filled with shit you dont even know whonyou were looking for.

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>>384292290
Run that by me again?

>>384287706
THAT'S THE JOKE

>>384291285
You are kinda full of shit here, not only did Obsi specialised in sequels, half of staff made original game.
They jumped so fast on it, they probably didnt even read the contract, hence FONV suffered little in developemment.

>>384292113
Its well known that throughout NV's development Bethesda kept failing to meet goals, this was in an attempt to weaken Obsidian so they could buy them, but when they tried to do so, Obsidian refused and somehow managed to get back on their feet.

So ibstead of Obsidian working for Bethesda, doing whatever they want and making Fallout games all with Bethesda's mobey, they're scrapibg kickstarter for funding on their next big failure.

>>384278321
fpbp

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>>384292290
Dis nigga high AF

>>384292798
>refusing to sell your soul to Bethesda is stupid
Is that you Todd?

>>384292785
Half the ORIGINAL staff made the original games, that half had mostly left by the time NV went into development.

Also see >>384292798
There will never be a second Obsidian fallout because Obsidian screwed the pooch

>>384292798
it's not well known at all
care to provide a single source?
because the story is: Obsidian signed a contract that gave them royalties if they achieved a metacritic score higher than 85, they didn't. They had 18 months to develop the game, they did that.

After that, Obsidian has always said "we're always open to making new Fallout games."

Second, why the fuck would Bethesda Softworks/Zenimax Media get a 2nd RPG studio? Obsidian with Bethesda Games's budget would completely annihilate and ruin Todd's studio, buying Obsidian would be suicide.

>>384292798
Yea,nah..
If that was the case we would have Arx Fatalis 2,Prey 2,
Bethesda (or Zenimax,same shit,different chimichunga)learned from EA.

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>>384278230
>obsidian after Avellone left
>jewsh sawyer running rampant and unchecked
BETTER DEAD THAN RED

>>384293043
>making a strawman

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>>384282463
>Everyone who buys a game likes it
Does your handler know you're online?

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>>384293427
I didn't click on that pic but whatever.

>>384293412
I still presented an argument. Giving their creative freedom over to Bethesda would be a slow and painful death for Obsidian.

>>384293427

now post the annotated version that fucking blows this out of the water

>>384293230
>>384293249
Whoops looks like I've angered the Obsidrones


Anyone who was here to have a serious conversation, this thread is now over, Obsidrones will do whatever it takes for them to claim Obsidian did nothong wrong.

>>384280741
>Controversial opinion coming in
this isn't reddit

>>384293781
>call bullshit on your sourceless story
>"oops, obsidiandrones are here!"
Are you going to post a source to your claim or what?

>>384293781
I'm not buying Fallout 4 Todd

>>384293427
Your image macros mean nothing other than youre mad.

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>>384281141
newfags need to lurk first this isn't your safespace

>>384293636
No. You did not.
You tried to twist the context in your favor.

>>384293987
>implying newfags are worse than pol

>>384293909
>>384293937
Getting pissed at me wont make Obsidian good.

>>384294086
reddit gold XD !

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>Fo4 was so bad that people are already thirsty for a new fallout title

>>384294195
Not even the same person. PER=1

>>384294281
It was shit, and having only 3 real dlcs instead of 4 didnt help either

>>384294281
If it wasn't for the voiced protagonist, Fo4 could have been good.

Literally everything that makes the game bad with the game can be linked back to the voiced protagonist.

>>384289363
Of course not. That pleb probably can't stand isometric.

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>>384294083
Yes I did that to present my opinion. I dispute the idea that Obsidian selling themselves to Bethesda was a good idea, or that they somehow failed in refusing, citing what I would perceive to be a loss of creative freedom if that deal were to go through. I didn't full explain my ideas because this is 4chan and I wanted to make things concise.

I honestly would rather they continue working on Pillars of Eternity and stuff like that.

The Fallout series died post 2. Accept that fact.

>>384294781
>hes still trying

>>384295121
Epic trolling I guess.

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>>384291804
>What is a comparison statement

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>>384281942
>Todd and Stinky Pete
>Pete
Out of everyone you nerds could have memed up and blamed for how shit Bethesda's Fallouts are, you choose the goddamn marketing guy who has literally zero hand in the development for these games. Meanwhile, Emil Plaigurowhateverthefuck, the lead designer and lead writer of Fallout 3 and 4 and every future Fallout game developed by Todd's studio for the foreseeable future, the guy who is ACTUALLY at fault for a lot of what has become of Fallout, continues to go under the radar.

If you want to shit on someone for actively contributing to whatever the fuck became of this poor franchise, at least aim the barrel at the right people and not some souless marketing drone. Not that any of this really matters.

>>384294971
Agreed with the first statement but not the second.

Obsidian working on PoE will banrukpt them faster than making games people will buy.

>>384293781
Nah,whole point of "obsidrones"(i wonder whose drone are you) is/was that Fallout was once serious game with serious dilemass(crime,cold war,global crisis, nuclear armament).
Game dealt with war crimes,famine,iresponsible governments etc and now its reducet to growing tomatoes and corn so you can get cheap glue+pimpin your body armor).
Im not saying FONV is perfect but people who created f1,2 and nv were way more aware of our past,present and they had way better sense of dark humor than Bethesda devs will ever hqve+they knew right amount of "realism" so game is still game but it could make you unease at moments.
Bethesdas Fallout is like theme park,pay the ticket, this is area you can play in, after 20 hours you get a barf bag because rides are all the same and boring and only by good will of maybe now 2nd generation of modders can be barely passable expirience.

>>384295396
You sure? Because they got a lot of funds for Deadfire.

>>384292152
>New Vegas has exceptionally well writing
>well writing

fuck you

>>384295396
Whole point of kickstart is that they dont have to sell one copy to break even.
I think theyll be just fine, i like that out there is an option for tailor made games just for me, fact that those games trigger this shitty,nasty xbox360 Halo generation is justna topping on delicious cake.

And, in the worst casebscenario, boy, did i spent 20$ on dumbernthings in my life.

>>384278230
No, all of the creative minds behind Fallout left Obsidian.

The good news is, they've probably gone to work at Bethesda.

>>384295354
This, there's even a talk on Youtube Emil gave on a university where he explained how he wrote Fallout 4's story and he said that he had a rule he called KISS which translates to "Keep It Simple, Stupid"

I'd rather have Obsidian make a new Arcanum in the Creation engine

>>384297112
I respectfully disagree. If there was a new Arcanum, it should be on a more competent engine.

>>384278230
The most we could get from current Obsidian is a Van Buren revival with all the Fallout names and connections being removed because they refuse to work on anything other than infinite engine games.

>>384299083
Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are working on something 3D.

>>384299317
They're working on 3D models made out of clay or whatever to then translate into in-game models, a process that was done for Fallout 1 and 2 but wasn't affordable when they were working on PoE and Tyranny.

>>384299083
If that were to ever happen, it would more likely be InExile behind it. They bought the Van Buren trademark years ago and Brian Fargo and Chris Avellone teased the possibility of doing something with it at some point *maybe*. If they do, I would wager it would be repurposed to fit in the Wasteland universe which could work methinks

>>384281735
This actually made me laugh, /v/ is so fucking self conscious about being gay they think this is sawyer saying he's gay. It's jsut a joke faggots.

>>384278230
No because Bethesda/Zenimax fucked them over by rushing them. and obsidian doesn't have the same talent that made NV iirc