So now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that this

>>384277078
What'd you like about it?

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>>384276793
For Americans, yes.

>>384277845
>>384278374

>>384276793
No it was great.

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>>384276793
Tekken was amazing
also Geese

>>384278374
They won the tournament that mattered the most, though.

>>384278793
>koreans shuffling at each other
wow so amazing

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>>384278374
RICED

>>384276793
>So now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that...

instead, let's have a discussion why you're such a mindless fuck up of a drone that cant think for themselves and regurgitates the same thread starter used countless times that usually has no point other than to rustle some jimmies of those who have some emotional investment in the topic?

>>384280430
koreans are fucking amazing to watch at any game are you being a cunt?

>>384278793

Oh shit I forgot about that

POST YOUR FACE WHEN SCARFLARD DELETED HIS TWITTER

find something to care about that you're interested in OP, looks like video games, fighting games and watching tournaments isn't one of them

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>>384276793
Not if you watched KoF and BB, no.

>>384276793
Last year was worse. Xrd was the only decent finals if I recall last year. It was weaker this year but a lot of other games made up for it.

>>384278374
ChokeChamp

I wish the finals would go back to the convention hall. These arena finals are fucking shit.

>>384281765
I love fighting games as much as anyone does, but let's be real here. This year had almost no hype, no popoffs, no drama. We saw an even tighter grouping of character picks from games like BB, GG, Tekken and SFV. Smash is still shit and was a nearly identical repeat of last year. Like what exactly was exciting about this year at all? autistic chinks, is that it, really? Just because they play the game well doesn't mean it's exciting to watch or good for the community.

The problem is NOTHING will ever come close to Galileo v Dogura Evo final or Kusoru carving the Mahvel scene into pieces and absolutely destroying America at FR15.

>>384282819
GG Top 8 was literally all unique characters and the top-32 had everyone but like a Pot rep.

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>>384282819
>tighter grouping
every player in the Guilty Gear top 8 had a different character. I think it was the same with BB too. go ahead and be contrarian, but at least get your facts straight

why was the second place finisher for sfv a niggerpad furry?

Didn't watch. What was the arbitrary "The EVO Moment" this year?

>>384282819
13 unique characters in top 16 for SFV, like 17 used for tp 16 in Tekken (alts/counterpicks were used quite a bit), 13 for BB top 16, 12 for GG.

What else do you want?

I only watched BB and it was pretty good.

>>384276793
fighting games is great

>>384283409
kof grand finals, probably

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>>384283409
>What was the arbitrary "The EVO Moment"
Either KoF's reversal denial, or BB's reversal.

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>>384283803
Wait. Wrong webm, though still right somehow.

>>384283803
>it was these two things in these two games I only watch and am a fan of

thanks for the input

>KoF was hype, best player turnout and viewership in years
>DBZF Trunks trailer
>cute boy wins BlazBlue
>Scarflard deleted his twitter
>Tekken was fun to watch
>THE GEESE IS LEESE
>America got to grand finals in SF
>Tokido finally got his evo win after years of being denied
This was the BEST evo in years.

>>384283409
Salem winning vs Zero when he was at +120% last stock and scarflard with %23, then he made a ladder combo and memed him.

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fuck that
evo was fucking great this year I didn't expect sf5 to actually be hype but Fuck it was great the only thing that wasn't great was smash and bb once tochi got knocked out

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>>384283409
Punk getting DEMON'D for a reset

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>>384283920
Have the KoF play itself then.

It was very late. Chinaman was very, very sleepy. If he hadn't won here, it would've been a reversal.

It was very hype. BB too. Nothing else came even close, and I watched the lot. Though yeah, I did grow up playing KoF, and I do play GG and BB. But I also grew up playing SF and Marvel, and those were shit.

>>384283409
tokido taunt killing punk, or the raging demon
or the Frank west comeback

Only relevant FG are Melee and SFV

>>384284508
There's nothing better then watching Xiaohai getting blown the fuck out after he had such an attitude of it was as good as his going in. It's almost as sweet as watching him get demolished by Du's Mika.

>>384276793
>now that the dust has settled

nigga, its been one day

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>>384284908
Yep.

Got any of the tweet screenshots?

Surprisingly the only good Sunday top 8 was SFV, and it was satisfying see Tokido win. Scarflard getting BTFO was an added bonus.

Putting Melee, GG, and IJ2 on Saturday was a mistake and it better be rectified next year.

What was so good about BB GF? I was still asleep and missed it.

>>384283409
Tokido "if it's black, send it home in a body sack" murdering the entire black race on live television

>>384285469

It was a back and forth with good and enjoyable players.

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>>384285469
It was a whirlwind.

Ryusei got in on winners, and got his top 2 spot easily, taunting and mocking his opponents all the way, even though top 8 had some really strong players.

Fenrich also got in on winners. Got dropped by Ryusei, then fought his way back to top 2 for revenge.

Ryusei started strong, but then Fenrich got his groove going. They were tied 2/2 2/2, and Fenrich got the reset by timeout. They both knew they couldn't avoid the result, so in the last 2 or 3 seconds, they both went teabagging.

Then they tied 2/2 2/2 again. And for the game match, which Ryusei won, both ended with life in pixels.

It was one hell of a finals.

The only bad thing about it is, Ryusei is a Carl player, so he won easymodo. Fenrich was really amazing. But then again, Fenrich was so amazing, Ryusei's win was still hype af, even though he's a Carl player.

>>384276793

Last year was fucking terrible. SFV Top 8 was NASH, Chun, Cammy, with boring playstyles. This year, it was all Tokido working his way up, hype matches, and some American getting put in his place.

Plus all those reveals were hype as shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWdftoSS2m0

>>384285751
not to mention teabagging resets from both players

>>384282819
>This year had almost no hype, no popoffs, no drama.
You didn't watch the KOF grand finals. Xiaohai, China's #1 player and arguably the strongest player in the world, was talking shit and got blown out by ET from Taiwan, who finally beat his demon and won the tournament.

>>384286475
The BB crossover one was my favourite.
It took like a whole 5 seconds after Yu and Hyde showed up for everyone to process what the fuck just happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9dQZIIRuog

>>384286451
>2/2 2/2
I mean, 2/2 1/1

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>>384276793
Evo just fooled kids into thinking SFV is great when it's actually trash. Evo itself is corrupt and they are in on some serious dead with ESPN and Sony to promote that trash. They talk about "loving all fighitng games" but they some fat fuck named McRib determines what to put on and what not. GG should have been on Sunday instead of Ultimate Marvel for shitsake.

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>>384286776
>when the music starts when yu and hyde fucking clashed swords

pure kino

>>384276793
Evo died like 4 or 5 years ago

Fun reminder that this is the last year that UMVC3 will be at EVO. All future appearances for Marvel will be done through MVC:I.

>>384286996
You gotta admit though, that was the best SFV top 8 to date, not because the others were that worse, but because it was genuinely enjoyable to watch. I'm not reinstalling it but huge step up compared to last year.

>>384286996

King of Fighters and MAHVUL should have been switched around.

>>384286996
Fat fuck loves money. That's why mahvel and BB got their spots.

Also trash4 took forever. Without it all finals would've been on one day.

>>384281980
Man, I want to buy KOF, but it's too expensive and playerbase is small. Guess I'll just keep watching tournie matches

>>384286996
it's the kids that are complaining about sfv

sorry 16er

>>384287253
Marvels last evo should've been 4 years ago. Good riddance.

>>384278793
Also I don't even like BlazBlue but that GF was unbelievable.

>>384283409
Just to be hipster, the 1v3 in Puyo Puyo Tetris between the top player and the 3 runner ups and the top player stomped on the other 3.

>>384281980
DON'T WAKE DADDY

It was actually pretty good, too bad there was no KI, last time was pretty hype.

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>>384284494
Post >yfw raging demon

>>384276793
fucking faggot
>worst Evo
>not worst SGDQ

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>>384286693
>Everyone saying how the bonus SNK pot was extra money to Xiaohai
>Xiaohai talks shit basically saying "thanks for the free money"
>Gets beaten and hangs his head in shame
Has anyone been BTFO so bad like Xiaohai?

Who got the WORST BTFO of Evo?

>Punk
>Zero
>Xiaohai
>Mango

>>384286776

Does he have one for Arika's?

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>this murders the american player

>>384286451
>that moment when they both teabagged

>>384287750
Probably Xiaohai, because he was talking mad shit before losing to Taiwan.

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>>384286996
That jew loves money. Remember how he said for the charity drive "wow, Skullgirls raised so much! I might do something for it" then puts Injustice in since WB gave a huge bonus pot? Injustice raised 77 fucking dollars and they still got in

>>384287879
Its always good to see my boy win.
he deserved it.

Shame Infiltration dropped out at 33

>>384287750
Sonicfox

>>384287879
I love Tokido.

>>384287759
No.

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>>384287879
fighting games are.... great

>>384286776
>nine shows up
>"bad matchup confimed"
love that nigga

>>384288085
at least Itazan made 4th and in the process probably shortened Nemo's lifespan by a few years

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>>384276793
>So now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that this was the worst Evo in recent years?


>>384281980
This

>SGDQ
>Goes 24 hours entire week long
>Miss all the best shit because it happens at fucking 3AM or something shitty like that
>Trannys everywhere
>Even kissing, on camera
>Autists everywhere else
>2 or 3 good commentators out of 100+
>Cosplay is banned, fumos are banned, signs are banned.
>All audience can do is clap politely at specific times, do anything else and get kicked through the back door and then shot.
>Commentators and runners alike held at gun point and shot the moment they say anything even remotely triggering.
>3+ hours "speed runs"
>"GREETINGS FROM GERMANY!"

>EVO
>3 days long
>Games at sensible times to accommodate most people's schedules
>Hype commentators that are not afraid of a little bantz and don't have to double think everything they say to make sure they don't trigger a minority.
>No degenerates on sight
>The audience is much bigger and actually encouraged to be part of the experience.
>Cosplay is ok, popoffs are okay too.
>Autism kept to a minimum.
>People doing and streaming their own side tournaments
>Cool reveals

When did you realize EVO was the superior gaming event?

>>384289273
>3+ hours "speed runs"
Not to mention the 8 hour one.

>>384289273
You forgot ESPN/Disney forcibly censoring Street Fighter V by forcing certain characters to change costume into something that covers more.

AGAIN.

>>384289273
You do realize that they forced certain people to change character costumes during SFV, right?

>>384289528
I wish AGDQ aired on TV as well just so they were forced to censor the fucking trannys.

Not even close, amigo.

>>384289501
>Not to mention the 8 hour one.

FF7 is NOT a game you can "speed-run". You can't skip dialogue and it plays just like a big tv show.

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>>384289528
>>384289674
>Cammy will never be allowed to wear her leotard in top 8 ever again
>R. Mika will never be allowed to wear her main ringwear in top 8 ever again
>Zangief will never be allowed to wear his main ringwear in top 8 ever again
>You will never see swimsuits or BONITA on the main stage

>>384289869
JRPG speedruns are honestly the fucking worst, I mean it is amazing that one can complete a game like FF7 in only 7-8 hours but they're still complete hell to sit through.

>>384290051

The best you can do is like, action rpgs like those top down Zelda likes that can be done in 45 minutes. Willow, Crystalis, Ys, etc. And then the modern equivalents like Souls games.

"Proper" jrpgs, no fuckin' way. They railroad you, in the oldest ones dialogue is NOT skippable at all, and it's just some menu pressings. You can only compress that down so much.

>>384290047
I'm waiting for someone to go back to character select for a breather after getting bodied and accidentally forgetting to switch costumes again

>>384289501

I just checked, and they're using the PSX version. Fucking why? PC version has lower loading times.

I watched the Speedrun of RE1 PC and it was great. Skipped every damn door opening sequence. Then I wanted to check out the rest, and whoops, they're all PSX or Gamecube meaning

>loading
>walk
>shoot
>LOADING

etc.

>>384290465
They will be openly scolded by a crewmember on the mainstage and force them to go back to character select. It happened to Kazunoko.

>>384276793
It was alright. Tokido's download was great.

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>>384281369

>>384287750
Xiaohai >>> Punk >> Zero >>>>>>>>>>>> Mango.

>>384290047
Is that really why Gief used the bear costume the entire time?
Did they really feel the need to hide him too?

>>384291304
Yes. Zangief's package is too much for Disney.

OFFICIAL Top 8 Rankings

>God Tier
BB, KoF
>Good Tier
SFV, Sm4sh
>Okay Tier
GG, Mahvel, Tekken
>Bad Tier
Injustice
>Melee Tier
Melee

>>384276793
Everything I watched besides SFV was good. Even Injustice 2 was better than Injustice was.

SFV just sucks, everyone knows it.

Is Tokido a based god?

I'm still shocked that a Chun Li team won Mahvel. Like, she was always considered one of the hardest characters to use with little results before these past few months, yet hear we are.

And aside from from GG (and only because Omito made it boring) and the Smash games, all the top 8s this year were great. SFV was just amazing all the way.

>>384292120
>Took him 15 years to win evo
No but he's a pretty alright guy
Glad to see him finally get that victory, even if it means shitting on murrica

>>384292232
Don't fool yourself, Smash 4 had a really good comeback. Helped by the fact that the fat piece of shit that lost had a mental break down, didn't shake his opponent's hand and deleted his twitter.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13454542/
http://www.strawpoll.me/13454542/

>>384292420
Man, can't believe I forgot that. Shit, I even watched it live in a pizza joint and yelp at the end. That was a great match and end.

>>384285469
Nothing. A carl player won. Everyone knew it was going to happen and it was shit.

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It sure was OP. For this reason alone, if nothing else.

>>384284342
Best moment was Gootecks drunk

>>384291450
I don't believe that. Wreck it Ralph aired right before SFV and zangief appears in that in his speedo.

>>384289528
>>384289674
Them's the rules of the trade, but it's still a minor thing overall.

>>384276793

Zero lost and deleted his twitter. How could EVO get any better?

I just want to say that I know the fgc hates Smash in general and I know that Icons is looking jank right now but it could also be your ticket to being rid of the diaper wearing Nintendo autists who literally break down in sobbing fits on stage over a party game. Icons will split the user base by a lot and without Nintendo characters to match on to the autists will leave. It's important that it gets support imo just so EVO and the fgc can start cutting off a stale community who still clings to an 18 year old game and a game that by its makers own admission isn't designed with competitive gameplay in mind.

>>384293536
I'm hopeful for Icons, actually. I don't care about Nintendo characters missing since they're just functions afterall

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>>384276793
>in gdq threads at the end of the week
>everyone says "don't worry, evo is coming up!"
>evo threads aren't even remotely comfy

>>384294164
Evo had pretty good threads. I can't actually discuss with you though because who the fuck knows what comfy means to you.

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>>384290636
When??
If I was up there I'd honestly just refuse to swap. Sounds like big-dick e-peen talk, but that shit really pisses me off. Not to mention it can actually throw a player off.

>>384294164
I dunno anon, the threads were pretty alright. I'd say it was half and half but I really enjoyed the UNIEL threads.

>>384293264
Till games start changing character designs to preemptively censor themselves.

>>384294164
Evo threads were fine if you ignore Smash 4

>>384294164
All EVO threads need people spamming Kappa a hundred times.

I think we can all agree fighting games are a dying genre.

>>384294637
Or just have alts and save yourself the trouble.
Or in Cammy's case, give her a pants alt already god damn.

>>384284494
The fucking taunt kill in the game before that. Tokido is a fucking monster.

>>384294736
I'm sure they'll die any year now.

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>>384294794
>Or in Cammy's case, give her a pants alt already god damn.

The leotard is so god damn synonymous with the character, but a pants Cammy will probably be the default in any future SF games, and you fuckin know it.

Besides, they have all the alts, but the player should be allowed to use what they want / like best / most comfortable with. Maybe they shouldn't air a god damn fighting game tournament on Disney channel. Or maybe ESPN shouldn't censor shit when their cheer leaders are wearing less.

Reminder that the only reason Smash is still tolerated at Evo is so that Smashers can keep getting milked for free autist money. No one else present likes Smash, no one respects the players, and it is a boring slog to watch. The potshots that FG players took at Smashers over Twitch this year were pretty good.

>>384295526
Not only that, but Melee got kicked off EVO finally.

>>384295241
same with chun's qipao but she got enough alts for a sears catalog

>>384295526
The only reason smash is in EVO is because nobody has made a halfway decent competitive game with Smash's mechanics. It's a great game.

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>>384295592
>Melee got kicked off EVO finally

>>384294503
>If I was up there I'd honestly just refuse to swap.
Enjoy your DQ, then.

How devastating it must be to make it to EVO Finals and then lose? I can't imagine how horrible it must feel to lose so close to the finish line.

>>384295629
A great game but not a great competitive game. When your game is dominated by the top 2-3 characters undisputed, with the same top players every year, playing those characters the same way, your game has an issue.

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>>384295241
It's not like there isn't already a good pants Cammy design out there to use.

>>384295708
You think a prominent playing getting DQd over his fucking costume choice wouldn't cause some uproar in the FGC?

>>384295526
Smash 4 is staying at least one more year due to it supposedly being part of the Evo Japan line up.

>>384295904
Yes, which is better to just go along with it.

>>384295705
I think he meant that seeing as it isn't going to be part of EVO Japan.
ARMS got in instead.

>>384295904
That's the price of going mainstream e-sports at the biggest FGC tournament in the world.

>>384295705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIil6IIEyQY
Here's the lineup trailer for yourself if you wanna see.

Smash is not getting into evo next for real this time. Feels so fucking great boys. Party over at r/kappa

>>384292314
That's his 3d EVO win

I didn't even fucking notice it was on.

Where should I go to rewatch KOF?

>not even a post-evo sale

well shit, I was going to finally cave in and buy SFV for cheap

The year of Elena was worse.

>>384296003
>>384296024
>Evo Japan

OK, then, that makes more sense. The Smash community in Japan isn't quite as attached to Melee as its Western counterpart.

>>384295872
Theres plenty of fantastic pants Cammy designs, but you're missing the point completely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAggOySD1Ig
https://clips.twitch.tv
/TenaciousRoughAlfalfaHoneyBadger
Is there a more based player?

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>>384278374

Daily reminder. "Fundamentally, my goal with Smash has been to create an “enjoyable party game”. If you want to enjoy thrilling tactical gameplay, you might be better suited for other 2D fighting games.” Sakurai, Famitsu Column 480 (2015)

>>384296282
Imagine if this could lead to melee finally being dropped from the west as well.

>>384295986
>Smash 4 is staying at least one more year due to it supposedly being part of the Evo Japan line up.
Also.
>Second highest viewership on Twitch, while also airing on TV.
>Twitch went down for 1/2 the top 8, otherwise it may have had a shot against SF5's viewership.
Meleefedoras will say but muh saturday time, when they had 0 other EVO streams to compete against except for Blazblue semis (lol), unlike last year where Smash 4 had to go up against all the other streams. There are 4 locks for next year, which are SF5, Tekken 7, Dragon Ball and Smash 4.

Why the fuck is smash 4 at evo japan? They just can't keep out of our events it's not fucking fair. This was our chance to go back to the glory days of evo without smash garbage. Hold me bros.

>>384290529
They used a relatively long category for FF7 too.

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>>384295986
>Yes, which is better to just go along with it.
Or take the DQ, and not stand for BS like that.
>>384296012
One more reason e-sports is garbage. Keep it in League and Dota.
I can watch this shit online. MOST do in fact. I dont need that ESPN/Disney garbage making everything family friendly at a fucking fighting game tourney.

>>384296335
And you have to realize that you won't get your way all the time. Sometimes you just have to sit down, take your L, and put on some damn pants.

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>>384296397
?

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>>384296024
>Arms
>no Gundam Versus

>>384283409
every grand final was pretty great even sm4sh

melee shit as always

>>384284494
it is always amazing how veteran players from other countries puts the new face on his place. meanwhile americans don't seem to even do that right anymore

>>384296579
See >>384294503, >>384295708

>>384296693
>I'll just include screencaps of him referring to it as fighting game as much as possible, that'll work!
Its not question over if smash is a fighting game you autist, even Sakurai doesn't think it can be classified as a deep competitive fighting.

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>>384296693
?

>>384295785
https://youtu.be/8fvK0JOa0vg?t=35m38s
AO was so heartbroken that even Harada himself couldn't cheer him up

>>384297443
>Sakurai says one thing
>Contradicts himself multiple times
>Somehow we're supposed to take his word anyway

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>>384295986
Nope, Smash is gone. EVO Japan came to their senses

>>384294736
fighting games are certainly finished. oh no

>>384297669
>UNIEL[st]
Maybe next year anon.
The AnimEVO tournament for it this year was pretty fun though.

>>384297669
>Leaving Arms instead of replacing it with Gandamu

>>384298014
>turn on stream
>commentator wearing sion cosplay
>one of the players has loli in his name
the only way it could be more anime is if they were playing in a closet

>>384297628
>I'm wrong so the argument doesn't matter
When asked directly he consistently denies it belongs in the competitive fighting game genre

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>>384298095
>The commentators taking the piss out of Smash
I started cracking up every time they said guessies and smashball.

>>384297669

Sm4sh Will not be present in Evo Japan?

What are the best fighting games to play competitively for someone who's new to fighting games?

>>384298415
he's just memeing. see>>384296024

>>384298346
It doesn't matter what Sakurai says, because he's not the one who defines things.

yall trying to shit on him
his first evo ever and hes 18 and he got 2nd place
thats more than youll ever amount to in your entire life

so yah, live with that i guess? sucks he took it so hard, atleast he beat like every other fucking SF pro except 1 person in entire evo

>>384276793

Honestly yes, as a Smash 4 fan.

>>384297119
So you lost because you broke the rules.

>>384298504
UNIEST (if it really has a good tutorial) and Guilty Gear Revelator 2.

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>>384298054
Got you, senpai

>>384298572
Delete this

>>384298674

What's UNIEST?

>>384298773
Sequel to UNIER

>>384278793
The fact that tournaments are playing this game on PS4 is a shame. Then you have to remember a lot of westerners that play these games are black.

>>384298504
Killer Instinct senpai

I suck at fighting games and I do well.

>>384283070
2 nine players in bb top 8

>>384298817

Never heard of it.

>>384298572
Except didn't he also send Tokido to losers himself?

Anybody shitting on Punk is an idiot. This is an 18 year old kid, with like no tournament experience, who can BODY anyone in the scene. Sure, he isn't so good at keeping a cool head under the largest pressure of his life, but Tokido is 20 years experienced in that. Punk will get his wins, and he'll get a lot of them in his career. Good for Tokido on this one, he really earned it.

>>384298504
SFV is pretty easy to pick up and play and has a healthy online community. People are going to say it sucks though.

>>384298504
2D:
GG (god tier tutorial and onine resources)
SFV (as much flak it gets for being too linear, its actually alright because of that reason)
Killer Instinct (wait for Steam)
Under Night In Birth Exe: Late [st]
Melty Blood

3D
Tekken 7 (well its not actually "good" for beginners. No tutorial plus years and years of legacy tech to catchup to. Good online resources though, and easy to pick up but hard to even get decent at)

>>384298552
Of course not but when you have Sakurai, Nintendo, every other Fighting game dev, and the FGC saying something isn't a fighting game. Maybe there is some truth to it.

>>384298773
Under Night In-birth:exe [st]

Yeah.

>>384298504
Play them all at once. They all share the basics, anyway.

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>>384298504
Guilty Gear has really good and entertaining tutorials. They'll teach you the basics of fighting games. Then stick with that or move on to Tekken or UNIEL or whatever you like

>>384298984
There is no other truth but the one truth. If a lot of people say something, it still doesn't make it true. You need to look at the definition of fighting game and see if Smash fits in.
If you were to ask any of these FGC people to define the fighting game genre, none of them would be able to do it in a way that's both accurate and excludes Smash. That might be saying something.

>>384298853
The PS4 are donated by sponsors, so unless some sponsor gives them a crap tonne of PCs to use during the pools it's not going to happen.

>>384298504
Tekken is probably the best thing to get into right now, as long as you aren't turned off from its difficulty.

>>384284508
I'll admit it, I got hype just watching it.

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>Finaly good enough to be able to play Tekken online and make it seem like i know what im doing
>Now the real game where i have to fight character knowlage begins

Been a long time.
Also fuck everything about Hwoarang
"High IQ" my ass.

>>384298948
Tekken's main problem when learning is that you will perform a lot worse during the learning phase for it's tech than you would by simply learning a few combos and trying to do them on hitconfirm when you spam buttons. This causes a lot of people to fall back on their bad habits and stay bad.

>>384298853
Consoles are easier to set up for FG tourneys.

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Multiple great top 16 and top 8s, great GFs, and the Capcom bullying made it a real good year.

>>384298773
Under Night In-Birth.
UNIEST is the latest game in the franchise that comes out in a few days in nipland.
Super ground based with an interesting tug-of-war like system that rewards good play and fundamentals.
Pretty anime, but is still pretty conservative about its overall style and appearance compared to other anime fighters.
French Bread doesn't believe in marketing so it's still kind of on the down low in terms of fighting games, but it's a solid fighter still. [st] has a proper tutorial but that won't get localised for a few months.

Guilty Gear Xrd and Skullgirls have pretty good tutorials. Most newer fighting games are starting to introduce tutorials in their games so you can check out whatever's recent and it should have tutorial most of the time.

>>384289501
>>384290529
>>384289869
what the fuck. the 3+hours zelda games were too much already. thanks god I stopped caring about that shit

>>384298883
Kaibutsu played Izanami mainly. Only used Nine once in top 8.

Predict the lineup for EVO 2018

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How does one achieve this level of cuteness?

>>384293536
delusional
smash IS nintendo autism, if you don't have the IP then you're doa
icons isn't the first or best attempt to clone smash, there are already games like brawlhalla, which have gone nowhere despite positive reception for EA/beta. i doubt the official launch is going to change that

>>384294637
Like MVCI?
the only one being afected by it is capcom because they desperate to make money.

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>>384299582
Anger, mostly. It's a real motivator.

>>384299432
Damn, that is bullying alright.

>>384293536
No one who cares about Smash will jump ships to some new game like Icon.
Any game that has tried to capitalize on Smash's success has failed to gather an audience. Even games in the Smash series can't pull people away from Melee. Why would anyone think this literal who game is capable of doing that?

>>384299568
I honestly have no idea, but Fighting Layer and BBTB won't make the cut. DBFZ might depending on when "early 2018" really is.

>>384299432
ono is enough of a goof that he could get away with it

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>>384299437
with the quality of tutorials and extra content seen in things like SG and Guilty Gear, the shallowness of SFV is even more insulting and pathetic

>>384299747

What's BBTB?

>>384299695
kek

>>384299839
Blazblue Tag Battle. It just got announced this EVO after Centralfiction.

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>>384299582
look like you don't have a penis but actually do have a penis

>>384293536
Smashfags play smash because of the Nintendo characters.
There probably many other brawlers that are good but will never get touched because they don't have mario and his crew on the game.

>>384276793
It was better than 2016 or 2015 that's for sure.

GG and BB were fun to watch even if they only had a few close matches, Tekken was okay, Smash 4 was decent and that was easily the most entertaining Sleep Fighter 5 has ever been.

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>>384286996
makoto for sfv when???

fuck no, the dbz side tourney was hype as fuck besides the glitch where frieza couldn't get hit

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>>384299839
MUGEN 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Qw-ztFrK4

>>384299695
Is this real?

>>384299695
>Rags and Jin in 1st
Pottery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMrrnwi_ipA

>>384300031
If the Season 3/SSFV leaks are true, not next year. :^)

>>384299568
MvCI
KI
KoF
GG
Tekken 7
BB
Melee
Smash 4
Pokken DX

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>>384299153
Yeah who cares what the experts think. As long as me and my friends think something is a fighting game, that's all the matters.
All the best fighting games have built in RNG, am I right?

If you have to ban most of the stages, disable default mechanics, to make a game competitive and even then half the roster is unplayable at top level then there is an issue. With your logic Minecraft is also a fighting game because you can fit it into the definition of a "fighting game" since two human controlled characters can move and fight each other.

>>384300124
Yeah, it was for a JP tournament last year. Not all of those players went to EVO this year, but if you saw BB you saw Ryuusei and Fenrich in Grand Finals. They play against each other a lot.

>>384300206
you don't think dbz will make the cut?

>>384299695
>I'll do unblockables, and I'll win

The mad man

>>384298674
>So you lost because you broke the rules.
Do you even read before you reply to people?

>>384299931
If that was all there was to it, the melee players would have all moved to Brawl and Sm4sh. It's about the gameplay.
There is not a single melee clone that is as technically deep, varied, and fun to play as the original.
There's not even a melee clone that comes close, and I say this as someone who loves Rivals of Aether.

>>384300159
They are somewhat true. Sakura and Sagat are coming in S3, but Oro, Q, Viper, and Necro arent.

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>>384295904
>implaying capcomfags will not just go with it.
they can't go back now. if you want to be on TV and the mainstream you either accept the terms or fuck off.
Notice how only capfags are unhappy since this whole shit show of WE eSPORT NOW started while the others are just getting happier

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Did anybody save the rest of these? They were great.

>>384300234
I don't think you know what a fighting game is, anon. But, feel free to prove me wrong.

>>384300031
I need her so much it hurts.

>>384300313
Is your dad Ono?

>>384300252
Oh fuck I forgot about that.
Then I guess drop KI for it again and make me sad again.

>>384300313
No, but the guy who leaked Abigail and the next 2 characters leaked it.

>>384300319
Someone probably did at r/kappa.
Whoever wrote those was fucking on point.

>>384300319
>Mike Ross will never win an Evo and has lost all faith in the Street Fighter franchise
>instead, he'll spend his years getting bodied in Guilty Gear as Axl

Truly the darkest timeline.

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>>384300319

>>384300514
I thought that was going to be dark prince at first.

>>384300317
I'm a capcbro and I agree with this 2bh

>>384298948
Blazblue has a decent tutorial as well and I've played a few people that were obviously very new online.

>>384300605
CLOCKWERK

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>>384300317
I'm not even a "capfag" the only capcom fighting game I even remotely like is SF and thats literally because of 2 characters. One of which they did a major injustice to in SFV.
Otherwise I'm an anime fighter faggot. But I fear that shits gonna spread to other games.

>>384288639
To be fair, if you played the game like Itazan did, it would probably shorten your lifespan too. He was making some of the hardest read ever. I am sure 50% of them was him just randomly guessing.

>>384297669
>GG is listed as Rev2
So they wouldn't announce the next major update for GG until at least January, then?

>>384300326
People who think Smash is a fighting game:
Smashers

People who think Smash is not a fighting game:
Nintendo, FGC, Every other fighting dev

Yes anon, I am the misunderstood one. You fell back to the "wel-l-l-l it fits the definition of a fighting game, than it is a fighting game" because you lacked any real argument.

it was the best evo of all time you fucking pathetic memer. there has never been an evo with as many huge reveals and announcements, with so many solid top 8s, and all of that combined.

>>384299582
god...

>>384300831
He's the guessies king.

>>384291525
>Fighting Games Are Fun Tier
GG, BB, KoF, Mahvel, Tekken, all animevo games

>Shit Tier
SFV, Injustice

>Not A Fighting Game Tier
Smash 4, Melee

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>>384281980
This desu, I had a fucking blast

>>384300783
For better or worse, I don't think anime fighters will get to that point of popularity in the west.

>>384300303
"gameplay" that needs an malfunction controller to achieve the tournament scene. melee is a joke. especially with sm4sh on the scene.
they play that shit because suck at other brawlers

>>384300876
Define fighting game, anon.

>>384300783
I doubt it'll spread to animu fighters
>"Anon we're gonna need you to change costumes"
>Alt costumes in a animu fighters
>lol
not gonna happen

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>>384278374

>>384300846
Rev2 just came out so yeah, probably. They probably might announce it after EVO Japan, which is in January.
I think it might be the final version of Xrd though, although they can probably push out one more version of Rev before that.

>>384300954
is that a guy
please say yes

>>384301061
That is a guy.

>>384301061
_Yes

>>384301061
yes it's a guy japanese fashion is just too next level for us dadjean wearing americans

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>>384301061
Yes

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>>384301061
yes

>>384300974
>they play that shit because suck at other brawlers
Then why was Armada the best in the world at PM without owning the game?

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>>384301128
>>384301097
>>384301124
>>384301109
nice

>>384301124
brb buying cardigans

>>384300974
>an malfunction controller to achieve the tournament scene
what did he mean by this?

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>>384301128
Man, Fenrich played his heart out, but it just wasn't enough. I'm happy for Ryuusei, though.

>>384300974
melee's gameplay is also probably more deep than whatever shitty anime fighter or sf you play

>>384301021
>>384300973

Not even just anime fighters.
I love Tekken (and Bloody Roar, but Ive accepted that games dead)

>>384300514
lmao that guy really was the embodiment of mvc

>>384287479
Is there a youtube video? I completely forgot about AnimEVO

>>384301032
Fuck DBFZ for taking resources away from GG.

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Remember when I teabagged in game 2 in a 3/5?

>>384301492
Vods on ghoul02

>>384301346
Some unintended mechanics that were discovered in melee are hard to impossible to do without a specific kind of controller defect. Its called the "controller lottery". You know a game is a true fighting game when it has outside factors that affect winrates.

>>384300319
>>384300514
Where is DSP?

>>384301459
Heart was fucking racing on that GFs set, that back and forth was so good. The later game announcements didn't help my heart either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9dQZIIRuog

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>>384300514
I think i know who made these.

>>384301597
>you know a game is really for autists if people actually find and learn how to exploit minute glitches and obscure engine functions

What about Hungrybox not being DQ'd

>>384301565
Classic Du

>>384301005
This isn't about a definition, you autist. It's about if something is truly a fighting game based on its core mechanics and whether or not skill is the only factor that determines who is the winner.

Classic staples of the Smash Bros franchise that add randomness to gameplay. Fighting games typically have minimized the amount of RNG, while Smash’s default settings are a blatant defiance to this trend. In tournament settings, items are disabled and stages with hazards are banned from play (along with other stages that are favorable in certain matchups), so the amount of RNG is also minimized. The distinction here is that this is done through agreed upon fan-made rules rather than an in-game default option. If you get 2 scrubs to play Guilty Gear, it will always play like a fighting game even if they’re fucking around or don’t know what they’re doing because…well, it’s a fucking fighting game. You can’t say the same about Smash Bros. You need to use an extremely specific set of rules before it even begins to play like a fighter.

So again, make a stupid ass ruleset and you can make almost anything look like a fighting game if you disable half the intended mechanics.

>>384301597
According to your logic, Quake can't be a competitive FPS since bunnyhopping and rocket jumping are exploits.

>>384302182
anybody can get good and utilize rocket jumping

how do you get a lottery gamecube controller?

Is Skullomania a meme character?

>>384301748
adam best boy

>>384302125
Just to be clear, if a traditional fighting game would add items and some weird stage hazards, it's no longer a fighting game? If you can turn Smash Bros into a fighting game, you should be able to turn a game like Tekken into a non-fighting game, right?

>>384302343
Yes, along with Terry Bogard

ARE YOU OKAY BUSTA WOURF XDD

>>384302182
>bunnyhopping and rocket jumping
>Outside factors
What are you talking about. This isn't about exploits or bugs ingame. Its about someone having an advantage over someone else because they possess a physical piece of equipment that other player does not.

>>384302428
>hitboxes

>>384302182
according to smash players quake can't be a competitive game because it has items

>>384302781
Smash players don't argue that at all. FGC people probably do. You can turn off items in Smash though to make it a better competitive game.

>>384302402
I-I think terry would have made a great Tekken guest character. Not as hype as geese but a sold choice.

>>384301748
This is so good.

So which was the EVO moment this year?

>>384301739
are there any good reactions for the skullmania reveal?

>>384294164
>open gdq thread
>nobody is talking about the run
>only tranny posting and /pol/ baits
even worse when mods don't do their job and don't delete duplicate gdq threads who instantly turn into furry porn dump

tfw i love everything about fighting games except i'm terrible
tfw i hate everything about smash and it's community except i'm a natural at playing it

where do i align bros...

>>384302973
Even something like Smash would translate to normal fighting games. What the fuck are you smoking bro?

>>384300751
BB is irrelevant now that GG is back.

>>384302929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ6uZlvCVaw

>>384301573
That was great, shows just how high the skill ceiling can get on the game.
I wonder what they are going to change in the upcoming balance update however.

>>384303108
Not really, the games play extremely different and BB is considerably bigger as a franchise.

>>384302904
>ET's Daimon's Climax to help secure the KOF tournament
or
>Tokido's taunt KO, perfect KO and demon KO, all in one

>>384302904
My 2 favorites were Daimon in KoF at the end and Fenrich safe on block ice car

>>384303202
>BB is considerably bigger as a franchise

based off what

>>384302973
>where do i align bros...
As the eternal fanboy who can watch but never hope to compete, just like so many sports fansexcept their case is even more hopeless.

>>384303358
Sales, events, publicity, and arcade numbers. So basically everything that actually matters.

>>384303358
think of it this way
if BB wasn't a thing, Xrd might not have ever existed

>>384287340
>>384286996
Do you really think you should have the authority to say what does and does go up? Especially when you want to switch out Marvel, a game with a community, instead of games that can't even get 500 entrants like Kof or BB.

>>384276793
Is it ever worth watching pools? I usually just watch top 8.

>>384302973
Join the anime army. We're recruiting. If you don't, well... look at what happened to SFV.

You have been warned.

>>384303536
So basically the persona vs smt thing

Honestly, both BB and GG are pretty old and overdone by now desu. Even their plots have finished.

It's time to replace them with a new franchise.

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>>384281369
>finally your big moment
>the biggest tournament of the year for the game you've dedicated all your time to and dominated at
>to be simulcast LIVE on TWO different TV channels
>choke and lose
This kills the Zero.

>>384302373
What are you even trying to get at? You have been arguing semantics this entire time and have refused to rebuke any points made.
You are talking hypotheticals, sure if Tekken had pokeballs or pokefloat stages by default it wouldnt be solely a skill based competitive game but it doesn't.

The only game to come close to smash level of stupidity in terms of stage hazards is NRS games, and 99% of the FGC laughs at NRS players because their games are busted.

>>384303749
GG characters and mechanics are too cool to drop

>>384303757
I like how Zero tells him to properly hold the award correctly over his head, what a cuck

>>384303757
the way he was clapping made it seem like he thought the harder you clapped the faster time would move

>>384303749
Who's gonna head it? Mori is likely on CB, Dai still has GG, and the "Persona team" is doing Fighterz. I think they're just taking a breather while they work something out.

I really hope they finally tackle 3D fighters.

>>384303749
Nah, BB going for the crossover route during its hiatus is pretty great. Eventually it'll come back as a full-fledged series again, since Mori made it particularly clear that it's only Ragna's story that's ended.
Guilty Gear isn't even over.

>>384303815
I'm just wondering where you draw the line between fighting game and non-fighting game. Tekken has a volleyball mode and SC2 has hazardous floors, but those are okay I assume.
The problem I have with this debate is that everyone is really quick to dismiss Smash as a fighting game, but they never seem to be fully sure what makes a game a fighting game.

>>384303909
>and the "Persona team" is doing Fighterz

So DBFZ confirmed shit?

>>384303909
>>384304125
I thought Team Red was heading it up.

>>384304183
it is, Red is working on DBFZ and Blue on BBX

>>384304286
I hope ASW makes Battle Fantasia 2 next.

Who do you think will be in blazblue cross tag battle? The roster must be pretty large.

>>384297306
>Sakurai doesn't think it can be classified as a deep competitive fighting.

The post you just quoted BTFO this meme argument tho, He literally says to play Melee if you want a competitive smash.

>>384304931
As long as Orie's in I'm good.

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>>384300876
>People who think Smash is not a fighting game:
>Nintendo, FGC, Every other fighting dev

>>384304931
Everyone, it will be the MvC2 of animu fighters

>>384305196
Specially when it's a festival of re-used assets. It wouldn't be that far-fetched if that happens.

>>384303358
arcade players, anime (even if it is shit), arcsys concerts have been full of BB music for years straights, special events with the j´VAs, a online show full of shitposting material, light novels, manga.
BB helped arcsys when SEGA fucked them over GG

>>384305254
Uniel sprites are going to look way out of place. It has more inbetween frames in the sprites compared to ASW sprites.

>>384304048
Ask yourself, is a game balanced and solely skill based on its default settings? Than it is a fighting game.

Why are you bringing up optional modes that don't even exist in modern Tekken. Those have nothing to do with the default versus mode. Smash has a plethora of weird Special Smash modes but no one would use that example as an argument it isnt a fighting game since it has nothing to do with the default versus mode.

Ring outs are a mechanic in soul calibur(which hasnt had a new game or been at evo in a while, so it seems like your are reaching for anything at this point) which can actively be played around and do not need to be banned in tourneys to remain competitive. Are you saying those kind of stage hazards are equivalent to Poke Float nonsense and the g-zero stage? Smash pros seem to disagree since tourney ban those stages. The only stage to be banned in SC2 was Windmill because it physically caused the ps2 port to lag and had nothing to do with stage hazards. If you have to mold your game to be a competitive fighting game by banning key mechanics, it isnt.

What I dont understand is smashers claim not to want to be part of the FGC but they go through all these mental gymnastics to convince themselves they belong in the FGC.

>>384306386
>is a game balanced and solely skill based on its default settings? Than it is a fighting game.
What kind of weird definition is this? Is Mario Tennis a fucking fighting game or something? Of all the idiotic definitions I've seen thrown around here, this one is probably the second most retarded.
I'm convinced you really don't know what you're talking about here.