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I always thought Artorias of the Abyss was overrated. I don't

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I always thought Artorias of the Abyss was overrated. I don't think it's bad but I also think it's far from the "best thing Dark Souls ever did" like people seem to praise it for.

Positives
>All four bosses are great
>Oolacile is one of the best areas in the series
>The added Sif stuff is great
>Added lore was much needed for people into that kind of thing
>NPCs are mostly great, Gough being among the best and Chester being very memorable
>Gold & Silver Tracers are insanely fun

Neutral
>Dark spells are fun and cool additions lore-wise, but became PvP cancer very quickly

Negatives
>Royal Wood and Chasm of the Abyss are insanely lazy
>Royal Wood is literally a repeating, massive forest with one armor set spread across it as the only treasure
>Royal Wood only has two enemy types (three counting the dogs) and they're just variants of vanilla game enemies
>Chasm of the Abyss is just a huge cave with repeated enemies from Oolacile and one new, horrible enemy type (it's just a black blob that moves at you slowly. it doesn't even have animations)
>Chasm of the Abyss lacks any decent treasure except a Dark spell and a shield that I've never seen anyone use
>The entire area being so dark makes it completely uninteresting visually
>Manus and Guardian weapons are horrible
>Ciaran was disappointing. A very brief dialogue, then she vanishes
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I always thought introducing the rest of the knights of Gwyn was a dumb move and removed the mystery of them. As Das2 and 3 showed, trying to come up with answers for things that were meant for be vague was a mistake.
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My issue with AoTA isn't so much it in itself, but what it did to future games. Artorias and Ornstein both get enough content in later games that they might as well be holders of Lord Souls themselves, while Gough and especially Ciaran are stuck in 10 minutes of DLC in one game in the series. Arty is cool, I know, we all know, so is Ornstein, we get it, but there were two other knights as well. I just wish everybody got as much series appreciation as Not!Guts and Garo
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