Atari Box thread part 2.

$499

>a hundred fucking dollarydoos for a disc drive

hahaha

So Nintendo went from 3rd to 4th? No amount of mushrooms can help.

>>384263996
Media licencing does take it's toll.
>>384263920
It's worth it for true 4K, not checkerboard 4K.

It might be $399 but they said nothing about price yet.
>>384264061
They get along with Nintendo very well, they just want to streamline the AAA market is all and those Steam sales cut more then what the 3rd parties want in terms of payments.

I like it.

so is this just an OUYA-steambox hybrid?

>>384264747
Nope, It's a X64 box like the PS4 & XBone.

It's a PS4 with no disc drive and no exclusives.

>>384263715
I had a long answer but my connexion crashed when I tried to post the new thread and I'm kinda lazy to write again so in short.
The gpu's tdp would be too high for the box even in 14nm, the CPU isn't a problem especially with Zen.
Also for 4k what matters is the number of ROPs, so even if they put an actual RX580 it wouldn't change a thing (or not enough) when it comes to 4k.
My thoughts: APU zen with custom gpu if they want to sell it 400-500$
Powerful ARM (the ipc isn't that far of the jaguar/atom) if they target the 200-250$ market

>>384263715
The Atari box will have the same specs as the Switch. Book it.

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>Crowdfunding

literally ouya 2

>>384265234
Does this look like a Switch.

>Main CPU:8 core (2 4 core clusters) Zen Gen 2 at 3.2Ghz
>Sub CPU:ARM Cortex A73 at 2.4GHz
>I/O, Sound/Other CPU:ARM Cortex A53, speed is the same as the Cortex A73.
>128KB L1 catch per core and 1MB L2 catch per core, both Zen Gen 2 and Cortex A73 are the same.
>Cortex A53 catch: 64KB L1 catch per core, 512KB L2 catch per core.
>16GB of GDDR5X Ram, 435.2GBs, 512 bit bus.
>4GB for OS, 12GB for programs.
>GPU:Radeon RX 580, same as it's PC version.
>Top of the system is it's vents and fans for cooling.

No, I don't think so as this was made to bypass Sony & Microsoft's half baked hardware and Valve/Steam cutting their profits to the point that they can't pay off it's production.

>>384263715
Where's your source on those specs? And judging by those specs, this is literally a mini-PC with atari branding on it. Price will be a factor and "companies" supporting it means shit if it's Windows.

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>download only
>$100 disc drive addon
>"AAA exclusives"

Guess I'll just get off this mailing list now

>>384263715
>Download only out of the box but does have a external disc drive for $100 to play media formats (CD, DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray).
Dead on arrival.

>>384265307
... And we all know it was more like an "ouno" in the end

>>384263715
Huh, so this is the publishers way of getting around the increasingly restrictive microsoft and sony as well as to put a stop to the used games market?

That's an interesting idea. I wonder if we'll see this thing get a lot of exclusives right off the bat to try and force adoption?

>>384263715
>Source: my ass'
Would be cool though, Xbox and PS4 are super boring and Nintendo is retarded

>>384265307
They said nothing of the sorts, BandaiNamco and the other big Japanese 3rd parties have more then enough money to pay this off, they're just using Atari's name because it was used on consoles in the past (Atari also one of the western key members of this system as well).

If anything it's the MSX3.

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>>384265745
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-17-first-look-at-ataris-newest-console

>“To limit risk taking, this product will initially be launched within the framework of a crowdfunding campaign”

So those specs came from the magic dream faerie I see.

>>384265565
Stores like Amazon tend to cut prices on games and the 3rd parties still want the games at full price like what goes on with Nintendo.
>>384265596
Bingo, also Steam sales.
>>384265646
No the info is true.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1407085

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It sucks they don't have faith in the wood design and have to release another generic black console. Still looks nicer than any other current system though.

>>384265929
Thanks for the source, how much is another story.

>>384266003
>No the info is true.
There is no specs in that link

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> a no-name gutted washed up company like atari can make a console
>sega can't

>>384263715
So, it's a pc?
I don't understand what this thing is
Is it an entirely new console, a pc like the steambox shit, or what
What games does it play
>>384263715

>>384266305
Sega probably could but they understand how stupid it is to go for it.

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>>384263715

>>384266305
6 years after Atari's resurrection will be Sega's, don't worry and prepare your money. Actually I couldn't afford two of them if it was over 400$

What do publishers have against the current console/storefront policies? The only way a game can't get on a current system is if it fails a virus scan. Console-makers have been pretty nice about removing seals of quality and allowing rampant dlc.

>download only
>still $60 per game

>>384266590
The part where being on one of those store fronts requires surrendering a significant chunk of the money from every purchase to the storefront's host, when you could just as easily do it yourself.

>>384263715
>crowdfunded console
into the trash it goes

>>384266664
Devs get at least $50 per download sold.

So what games does it play? PC only?

>>384263715
>expensive hardware
>digital distribution infrastructure is not there
>expecting to rely on third party support when nothing is guaranteed or even beyond paper yet
>fighting in a market that has locked in players, making competition with them 100 times more difficult due to brand recognition and infrastructure
This will be a flop. There is simply no way for Atari to even break into the market even if they sell the consoles for $300 each. The market is there, but it's being held by three established players. This is like a 99 Cent store establishing a digital marketplace when Amazon exists.
Not only will game developers be turned off by this console, but buyers too since it won't have that many games, nor will any of them be Atari exclusive. There is no selling point for this console, nothing that would make skeptics want to invest money into this.

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>Zen
>Radeon RX 580

>>384266868
>Whaa... My Kojima issues...
Give it a rest, they're sorry about what happen to Kojima.

This is not a Ouya issue, if anything it's a repeat of the MSX line.

real question is will it even get a sizeable foothold to compete? the xshit still managed 30 mill with no games and ps4 rode its way to 60 mill off of Microsoft's stupidity.

>>384263715
Not trying to be mean, just trying to be real, what games could they possibly have that I would want to play?

>>384263715
A console without a physical disk/cartridge drive is DOA.

This shit is going to be either an Android, set-top box, an NES classic ripoff, or a Steambox ripoff. Any of you faggots seriously thinking this is a new proper console from "Atari" (which is just a fucking name at this point) is completely retarded.

>>384267208
Chris Sawyer's Rollercoaster Tycoon IV

>>384267070
What does Atari or crowdfunding have to do with Kojima?

>>384264947
>Source: my ass

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None of the links posted here as sources has those specifications.

>>384263715
>Download only out of the box
Dropped, I refuse to pay for a digital "copy"

>>384267208
Rumor has it (the same or similar rumors that the specs in the OP come from) that this console is in direct response to the checkerboard 4K methods of Sony and Microsoft. That is, that a bunch of third party companies decided to make a 4K-capable console without needing to resort to checkerboard rendering, and they put the Atari name on it because that name went on consoles before.

>>384266003
>No the info is true.
>neogaf
You should probably kill yourself.

>>384266990
It's own software, just like the PS4.
>>384267012
>Price is not announced but $400-500 is expected.
>System is digital only.
>System is made by 3rd parties plus AMD.
>Contains Atari, EA, Activision, Ubi-Soft, THQ Nordic, Warner Bros Interactive, Capcom, Konami, BandaiNamco, SquareEnix/Taito, KoeiTecmo and Sega as it's heads.
>Atari is only selling this in North America, Europe and Oceania, elsewhere it's BandaiNamco in Japan, Samsung in Korea and the rest of Asia (Hong Kong, Taiwan, ect.) and TecToy in Brazil.
>Made to tell Sony, Microsoft and Valve to fuck off.
>Still cool with Nintendo however.

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>“To limit risk taking, this product will initially be launched within the framework of a crowdfunding campaign”

>>384263715
Where did you get those specs ?

Phew the no disc is a huge downside to the PS4. Blu ray is important.

>>384263715
Eh I honestly think it depends on the amount of advertising this gets because people are Fucking stupid and would think downloading games is the new big thing or some shit. It could appeal to normal fags if cheap as fuck.

>>384267589
how so

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>>384267521
Yeah but Nintendo is not cool with anyone.

>digital only unless you pay for an external drive
Why would they do that to themselves? Digital only is the reason games are released unfinished these days, anyone who supports the digital only cancer is a piece of trash.

>>384267521
>>System is made by 3rd parties plus AMD.
>>Contains Atari, EA, Activision, Ubi-Soft, THQ Nordic, Warner Bros Interactive, Capcom, Konami, BandaiNamco, SquareEnix/Taito, KoeiTecmo and Sega as it's heads.
>>Atari is only selling this in North America, Europe and Oceania, elsewhere it's BandaiNamco in Japan, Samsung in Korea and the rest of Asia (Hong Kong, Taiwan, ect.) and TecToy in Brazil.
Alright now this is true bullshit
Pics or it didn't happen faggot
Also
>EA, Activision, Ubisoft as heads

>>384263715
So should i just throw away my pc and get this thing?

>>384267747
Atari suffered a bankruptcy four years ago. Their CEO is still focused on making the company profitable. Why WOULD they go physical?

>>384267663
You can watch the latest PS4 scoosives.

>>384267803
It's true, also there is some people from Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo AND Gabe Newell himself working on this.

someone explain the specs to me. how strong is the atari box compared to ps4 and whatever the latest xbox is called?

>>384267887
Why wouldn't they? It costs less than a dollar for a game DVD/BD to be made in bulk.

>>384267253
They could stick them on SDs. It would cost more than 60 USD and have some anti-piracy functions but it's possible.

>>384267521
>It's own software, just like the PS4.
So it's basically new console. What's special about it aside from graphics and download-only? How will it tell Sony, MS and Valve to fuck off?

>>384267521
>Price is not announced but $400-500 is expected
$100 too expensive in order to establish a foothold in this market. Sub $300 pricing increases sales over the lifetime of an ESTABLISHED console. What makes you or anyone else think that pricing it the same as the XBoned xXx or PisShit4 Pronoscope will win over new-to-the-market buyers?
Microsoft and Sony could justify their $400+ revamps because their audience had enough people who was willing to pay more for superior hardware. Atari doesn't even have an audience.
>System is made by 3rd parties plus AMD
Who is stomaching the development costs? The production costs? The infrastructure costs?
How is this supposed to make money for Atari? Physical console sales? Cut from digital sales? Subscription fees?
How many units will Atari need to ship before the investors can see a return?
>Contains Atari, EA, Activision, Ubi-Soft, THQ Nordic, Warner Bros Interactive, Capcom, Konami, BandaiNamco, SquareEnix/Taito, KoeiTecmo and Sega as it's heads
This means nothing, like when Ouya launched with partners from Square-Enix, Capcom, and other big player.
>Made to tell Sony, Microsoft and Valve to fuck off
That's not the best selling point. Why would the average consumer want to purchase this over Kony, Microshit, or Nintenbro? What does this console do more conveniently/differently that would make them want to purchase an Atari console?

>>384268014
Lel'd

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>>384268145
Reason #1

>>384268205
>Nintenbro
What the fuck is this word filter?
I typed Nin toddler

>>384268192
According to the rumor that OP is going by, they're telling MS, Sony, and Valve's checkerboard 4K rendering to fuck off.

>>384268286
Can't make fun of Hiroshimoots favorite company anon

>>384268086
More powerful than both but has the same issue of cheaping out on the GPU.

OP specs are fake you retards.
It's an autistic troll.

>>384268286
nintenbro

I'm only one that think that the timing of this is really fucking bad?

Even if they somehow release the damn thing they still have huge ass uphill battle to do, most devs are settled on PS4/Xbone and or are moving toward Switch, and this not really count Ninty first party.

Unless they have a really good lineup right off the bat and market the hell out of it, it going be dead faster than ouya.

>>384268378
>they're telling MS, Sony, and Valve's checkerboard 4K rendering to fuck off.
...with an RX 580
That's not happening unless they
>find a way to offload GPU overhead from the CPU
>stick with 30FPS at native 4K and lower graphical settings sans most AA, ambient occlusion, etc

>>384267887
>Why WOULD they go physical?
Because I won't buy their console unless there's physical copies of games. I'm a collectorfag and it's the main reason why I play MS games on xbone instead of W10

>no VHS bay out of the box
>dropped

Why should there be a disc drive?

>>384268484
what the fuck

>>384268378

They're gonna tell profits to fuck off too since no one is going to buy the thing.

>>384268286
Nintenbro
sonygro

Nintenbro

>>384268286
Soon -fag suffix will become friend.

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>>384268770
what the fuck m8, this is bullshit

>>384265307
Ouya delivered exactly what was promised in the Kickstarter campaign, the issue is that what they promised was garbage that idiots fell for.

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AIRWORLD
HYPE
Y
P
E

>>384263715
>Download only out of the box but does have a external disc drive for $100 to play media formats (CD, DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray).
Hope it fails.

>>384268435
ok. so what's with the arm processors? security? android support?

I can't wait for Ouya 2!

>>384263715
So it's a steam machine which everyone on this board shat on

why does this exist?

scratch that; this will never exist

>>384267521
So this thing is basically a scheme by major third parties to force a no-used games console onto the market

>>384267589
>Blu ray is important
Honestly, we need to move on from Bluray into something else. If you look at the Xbox One X 4K games like Forza 7, we're already reaching 100gb. How much data can a Bluray have? Physical copies have to evolve or we'll really be in a digital only future.

>>384269028
Probably direct support for Android apps. I doubt it's anything like the API offloading co-processor in the XBone X

>>384268286
Hownew.ru

>>384269129

I can't wait for another format war for the next gen. BR versus HD DVD was hilarious for early adopters.

>>384268521
With low level console optimizations an RX 580 would handle 4k with decent settings just fine. I think the better question is where the hell are they going to get 580s? Also how are they going to stop people from buying this thing just to rip out the 580s to sell at a profit?

>>384263715
I know it's fake, but this just sounds like 3DO Episode 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>384269210
>I'm new if I don't like filters

XDD

So... is it a new console or a steam machine?

>>384269558
You're a newfag for not knowing about filters you dumbfuck.

They have been around for years and make a comeback very rarely.

>>384269603
New Console

>>384263715
there is literally no source on these specs why does this thread have 100 posts

>>384263715
>download only

DEAD ON ARRIVAL

>>384269391
>With low level console optimizations an RX 580 would handle 4k with decent settings just fine
But that's not happening without a dedicated API offloading controller like in the Xbone X. At best, it can hope to achieve parity with its desktop equivalent, nothing more. Optimizations are literally a meme beyond the OS and firmware support. The only reason why games run like shit on Steamboxes but fine on PCs is because most games are already optimized for the Windows operating system.

>where the hell are they going to get 580s
You don't know anything about how the industry works. They get their Polaris 10 GPUs directly from AMD.
>Also how are they going to stop people from buying this thing just to rip out the 580s to sell at a profit?
You really don't know the industry. It's going to either be soldered on in a BGA or it's going to come in an MCM format. Neither of which can be "ripped out" and put into consumer PCs.

>>384263715
This shit will bomb harder than hiroshima nagasaki

>>384269731
Healthy amounts of skepticism

>>384263715
Where did you get these specs OP? Out your fucking ass?
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2017/07/atari-box-everything-we-know-so-far/

>>384269391
>All available consoles on release get instantly sold out and converted into more mining machines just so that miners can earn $1 more each month.

cool hardware talk you fucking nerds

WHAT GAMES CAN IT PLAY

>>384268378
No, sorry, that's bullshit. Firstly, what the hell is "Valve's checkerboard 4K rendering"?.. They don't have their consoles, they sell games.
Secondly, I don't fucking care about graphics, I'm perfectly fine with 1080p. What this console does to interest me? How is it different? Does it have motion controls? Does it have small controller-based mini-game/data save unit? Does it have free online? Does it have, I don't know, something else?
If only thing it can provide is "true" graphics than it's horseshit no one needs, because we are in this shit EXACTLY because of graphix-whores who need garbage cans with 4k textures on it and physically-enabled labels while game itself is mechanically same to something from goddamn NES.

>>384263715
Where did these specs come from?

>>384270354
OP's ass. It's the same with every single console rumor.

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Doesn't matter how strong or weak it is, needs games and if atari thinks pong is a killer app then they're fucking retarded homosexuals.

>>384263715
those specs are complete bullshit

>>384270602
>it needs games
explain switch, xbox one, and ps4,

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Would this fix it?

>>384271073
disco was shit

>yet another AMD powered trash box
When will they learn, the greatest console this generation is powered by Nvidia. With Nvidia comes success and greatness.

Sauce on specs?
Really though those are some fucking retard autist numbers. The system is for emulating old classics and possibly/realistically streaming some more modern games. It's not gonna be kitted out and cost that much. Atari isn't that stupid.

>>384271056
>switch is nothing but unique games
>xbox has halo
>ps4 has tons of exclusives they lied about being good

maybe the key is lying? i dunno

>>384271173
>the greatest console this generation is powered by Nvidia.
LUL

>>384267338
Konami is one of the heads of this project.
>>384267408
This; BandaiNamco in Japan.
>>384267747
Because stores and the likes of Sony, Microsoft & Valve take cuts from the developers.
>>384267803
No it's true.
>>384268014
That is not true however.
>>384268192
Yep.
>>384268205
If you want real 4K and not checkerboard 4K you will pay the price.
>Who is stomaching the development costs and ect.?
That will be under KickStarter.
>Ouya...
Ouya was ARM based and can't run the huge AAA of it's time, this can.

Also they have no issues with Nintendo, just Sony, Microsoft and Valve.
>>384268489
Well maybe if the XBox One X had a Zen Gen 2 CPU instead of a Jaguar 2 CPU then this might of never been made.
>>384268994
It will not, most PS4 & XBone sales are digital.
>>384269041
It's not Ouya2, it's MSX3.
>>384269119
No, it's it own thing like the PS4.
>>384269127
Blame costs going up.
>>384269416
No it's real.
>>384269603
New console.
>>384269782
No as most PS4 & XBone sales are digital.

>>384271206
No this is for modern day AAA games.

>>384269268
I almost forgot hd dvd was a thing and to think, porn decided it all

>>384271579
doesn't matter if most sales on a successful systems are mostly digital or not.

a new system needs something to fall back on.

>>384271173
At least they went with a Zen CPU, and not that trash Jaguar.

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>>384269129
We have this

>>384272616
Literal vaporware

>>384268286
>>384268484
>>384268562
>>384268770
>>384268887
>>384269558
Salutations, reddit
>>384271056
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA nice meme my fellow PC mustard /b/ro
>>384271073
Disco button meme aside, yeah. Consoles need physical media, don't forget what happened to xbone during it's unveiling. I can guarantee I won't be picking one up if it's digital only.
>>384269268
Bluray should be on its way out for video games. Files will become too big.
>>384271579
Konami doesn't have anything to do with Kojima anymore, though.
Bandai is unlikely to try again with hardware after Wonderswan flopped.

>>384268286
Nintendo

>>384263715

So this is basically a Xbox One X but without the brand name. It is going to be a disaster unless it runs any computer OS we want.

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What does it mean?!

>>384263715
>Download only out of the box but does have a external disc drive for $100 to play media formats (CD, DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray).

this is how they fuck up.

>>384263715
>>Being led by Atari, EA, Activision, Ubi-Soft, THQ Nordic, Warner Bros Interactive, Capcom, Konami, BandaiNamco, SquareEnix/Taito, KoeiTecmo and Sega to bypass Sony's, Microsoft's and Valve/Steam's policies and the former 2's sub par hardware; Still cool with Nintendo however regardless of their weaker hardware compared to Sony & Microsoft.
What does this mean? Are all these companies abandoning all other platforms for the 'Atari' Box? Why?

>>384273203
People seem to forget that Microsoft's disastrous Xbone reveal was the result of them consulting with third party publishers and asking them what they wanted in a console.

>>384273203
Try reading the thread.

>>384263715
When this thing gets actually released its going to be a beautiful clusterfuck on par with the VR meme

>>384273203
Because OP's dad works for Atari. The purported spec sheet in particular is a glaring load of horseshit completely on par with the early Nintendo NX rumors and I pity anyone who actually believes that dreck for even a single second.

>4GB for OS, 12GB for programs.
>12GB
>12GB
>12GB
>12GB

In the year two thousand and seventeen after our Lord.

>>384273324

Xbox reveal was the result of Don Mattrick constipated brain. If you think MS cares about third parties you are very naive.

Oh cool, a fucking box.
What about the games.

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But will it have any games?

>>384273203
They don't want to give 5% of their profits to console-makers. They tried the same thing with the 3DO back in the 90s.
>>384273472
You don't need more than 8

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>>384263715
>>Main CPU:8 core (2 4 core clusters) Zen Gen 2 at 3.2Ghz
>>Sub CPU:ARM Cortex A73 at 2.4GHz
>>I/O, Sound/Other CPU:ARM Cortex A53, speed is the same as the Cortex A73.
>>128KB L1 catch per core and 1MB L2 catch per core, both Zen Gen 2 and Cortex A73 are the same.
>>Cortex A53 catch: 64KB L1 catch per core, 512KB L2 catch per core.
>>16GB of GDDR5X Ram, 435.2GBs, 512 bit bus.
>>4GB for OS, 12GB for programs.
>>GPU:Radeon RX 580, same as it's PC version.
>>Top of the system is it's vents and fans for cooling.
>>HDMI 2.1 out of the box.
>>4X USB 3.1 gen 1 type A ports.
>>Supports the SD Card 6.0 stander.
>>1TB hard drive built in, also stores the OS as well.
>>AC power adapter and the system it self is region free.
>>Being released by Atari in North America, Europe and Oceania, BandaiNamco in Japan, Samsung in Korea and the rest of Asia (Hong Kong, Taiwan, ect.) and TecToy in Brazil.
>>Being led by Atari, EA, Activision, Ubi-Soft, THQ Nordic, Warner Bros Interactive, Capcom, Konami, BandaiNamco, SquareEnix/Taito, KoeiTecmo and Sega to bypass Sony's, Microsoft's and Valve/Steam's policies and the former 2's sub par hardware; Still cool with Nintendo however regardless of their weaker hardware compared to Sony & Microsoft.
>>Download only out of the box but does have a external disc drive for $100 to play media formats (CD, DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K Blu-Ray).
>>Will get AAA exclusives.
>
>Thoughts?

LMAO

At least it made me laugh.

>No one bothers to use their search engine of choice about this.

It's an NES Classic but for Atari. That's it. It doesn't remotely have anything close to that listed hardware.

>>384273526
They said right in the reveal presentation that they consulted with the major third parties for features that they wanted, and the no used games and online check in polices were the results of that. Yet only Microsoft got all the heat for it.

>>384273865
PS. i hope everyone here know you are being trolled and these specs are fake.

>>384273934
Prove it

>>384271579
>If you want real 4K and not checkerboard 4K you will pay the price.
Then why not just buy a PC and use Steam for a larger game library?
>That will be under KickStarter.
I can guaran-fucking-tee you that it won't. Console development, let alone stand-alone ASIC and SoC boards, cost in the millions to develop. That's not including the production, tooling, material, and labor costs that will be needed to put these things on the shelves. Then you've got the marketing costs to make consumers aware of the product's existence, as well as the separate costs needed to develop the digital distribution infrastructure for ALL Atari console owners across the world. Those two together can exceed the R&D costs of designing and manufacturing the physical console.

Kickstarter might only be able to cover a quarter of the costs needed for R&D.

>>384273969
>hey said right in the reveal presentation that they consulted with the major third parties

LOL

>people will actually believe this troll

>>384273934
>It's an NES Classic but for Atari
Nah, you're thinking of Atari Flashback. Try reading beyond the title of verge's article

>>384263715
So what games does it play?
Current Gen ports or is it an EmulatorBox

Sounds too good to be true

>>384274098
Kickstarter's to gauge interest.

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this thread is so fucking lame i'm actually surprised anyone responded to it. the specs are fucking retarded(unless you will find anyone ready to buy a 900 dollar console). ataribox might as well be called andriodbox since that's what it will be. a fucking emulation machine with nice branding.

>>384265307
DELETE YOU WILL SEE WE CRUSH PS4 AND XBONE X

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>>384272913
the Ataribox does have a SD reader, but it's on the back of the render. I believe that it's the thin slot on the right of the console.

>>384272913
>Konami doesn't have anything to do with Kojima anymore, though.
Thats the point, Konami treated Kojima like trash and he left, this is part 2 of Konami saying sorry to us (part 1 was Super Bomberman R).
>>384272996
Better then that.
>>384273934
No, it's in the vains of the PS4 Pro & XBox One X but done right.
>>384273986
No, the specs are real.
>>384274098
Because Steam cuts into their profits.

>>384266868
Except it's not, and nothing implies that it is

>>384274842
>this is part 2 of Konami saying sorry to us
Konami doesn't care.

>>384274317
Current Gen ports, but in 4K.
>>384274392
It is true.

>>384274842
580 isn't as good as the Xbox One X GPU

>>384274936
Yes they do, otherwise Super Bomberman R would of never been made.

>>384266882
Dumbest thing said in this thread of mouthbreathing retards

>>384274764
>having to reach behind your console to insert/eject the game
The absolute madmen.

>>384274986
The GPU is modded.

>>384275260
It says same as the PC version right up there.

>>384263715
>it's PC version
>it's vents
>it's
>it is
if you want to bait, at least bait well.

>>384264947
ARM cannot be x64

>>384264996
the ps4 processor is weaker dumbass. ps4 and x1 have literal tablet processors which were outdated even in 2013.

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>>384263715
>AMD

>>384269127
this.

>>384275403
Thats the clock speed.

>>384263715
So it's actually a real console?

...why

>>384276234
ARM is the OS, X64 is what games will be running on.

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>>384277135
>arm is the os

>>384277215
The OS runs on an ARM chip, the games run off a Zen CPU.

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>>384277135
>ARM is the OS

>>384274549
The specs look fine though.

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>>384277332
2 CPUs!?

>>384266305

To be honest, as much as we'd love another Sega console, they'd just be hurting themselves in the long run.

Why waste money making another console, market it, make exclusives for it and so on, when you can just keep trucking with you have already, and possibly to a greater audience.

>>384268685
SONYPONlES

>>384268286
Nintenbro
Sonybro
Sonyigger
Xbot

>>384274842
>No, the specs are real.

I need sources and proof, for now it's just bullshit.

>>384278317
PC Masterrace
PC Master Race
Reddit
Plebbit
Faggot
Nigger
/pol/

>>384277031
Because of Sony's & Microsoft's half baked way of doing 4K.

>>384268286
Nintendophiles
Nintendiddlers
Ninfintiles

All the new slang works.

>>384277514
Sony did it with the PS4.

>nearing 200 replies
>no source

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From the email they sent out to everyone who subscribed to their email updates shit, Specs, will be confirmed at a later date.

>>384263715
This thing is pointless, but that IS a sexy design.

Good for you Atari.

>>384263715
I'm honestly excited... but the last thing I was excited for was the Switch and we all know how that pos turned out.

>>384263715
Citation needed for those specs.

>>384273203
>They say fuck Microsoft and Sony because weak hardware
>But Nintendo is cool despite the same problem guys I swear.
Faggot Nintendo dick sucker.

>>384277135
Are you retarded?

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>>384268286
>he found out today

>>384263715
600 money or more

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>>384263715
>Main CPU:8 core (2 4 core clusters) Zen Gen 2 at 3.2Ghz
>Sub CPU:ARM Cortex A73 at 2.4GHz
>GPU:Radeon RX 580, same as it's PC version.

You fucking tech illiterate. Get the fuck off /v/.

This thing will probably use mobile hardware like the Switch or Ouya. It will be download only. Don't get your fucking hopes up.

>>384282648
It's possible to have an ARM co-processor in the same system (one of the edge routers we have in our office network has an Intel x86 and some networking ASIC based off of Qualcomm's Snapdragon).
But what the fuck is the point of having a co-processor on a gaming console? The Qualcomm chip in our edge router is there specifically to handle remote management and encryption.

>>384263715
Where the flying fuck did you get the specs from?

Did you pull it from your arse?

>>384283439
It's not about the Co-CPU. It's about heat generating from the Processors.

There is so much wrong with these speccs. It's like someone just threw everything he thinks is the best together. A theoretical console like that would probably need ~300W. Have fun cooling that. I don't really want to argue more about this. It's not worth my time and OP is just baiting more tech illiterates on /v/ who also don't know anything.

>>384283686
Probably
The memory buswidth alone is a bit ridiculous for both Ryzen and Polaris 10

>>384266305
They can, they just don't want to.

>>384283823
>It's like someone just threw everything he thinks is the best together
Ding-ding-ding. The numbers just don't add up. Apart from the heat dissipation (the Ryzen 7 CPUs are capable of being downclocked to meet a 45W TDP envelope at 2.2-2.4GHz, but good luck getting Polaris 10 down that low), the power consumption, and the physical packaging, there is a lot of overkill and unnecessary specifications for a $300-500 gaming console.

Why the fuck wouldn't Atari just wait for Mandolin-Raven Ridge or use Nvidia Tegra instead? Why would they go out of their way to produce a power limited gaming CPU that they'll lose money on for each and every unit?
And why would a console need 8 cores AND an ARM on the same system?

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>>384268286

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>>384284195
Yep. If you go for PC hardware, Raven Ridge will be they way to go. I suppose PS5 and probably the Next Xbox will use a custom Raven Ridge Gen 1 or 2. Maybe with HBM. Maybe not. Going for seperate CPU + GPU doesn't make sense anymore for consoles

>>384277784
Pretty much. Even if Sega internally wanted to get into the console race, good fucking luck trying to convince the investors and corporation owners. They only talk money, and throwing untold hundreds of millions in investments into the R&D, manufacturing and support drain for a chance of profit down the line while potentially pissing off current partners isn't what they want to hear if the company can just stay in status quo for a safe, guaranteed profit.

Sure, a Genesis mini to capitalize on the retro crowd like Nintendo's NES/SNES mini is a very likely outcome since it's cheap enough to develop and manufacture without requiring inordinate amounts of infrastructure, but a proper AAA console is extremely unlikely to happen in today's climate.

>>384284195
>And why would a console need 8 cores AND an ARM on the same system?
To offload specific processes away from the semi-modifiable OS. For example, the PS4 does something similar for DRM. One of the coprocessors on the PS4 is just for decrypting the games.
I highly doubt these specs are real, but if they are many companies backing it, they would most likely want Atari to go all-out on DRM, leading to a overspec'd DRM coprocessor.

>>384283823
300w is easy to cool

>>384286040
fuck off

They seriously should have waited til next the 2 or 3 years til the next gen is really up and going, theure just getting in way to late, shits gonna flop like crazy

>>384286326
The press release makes it sound like such a work in progress that it might take that long to get the console released.

>digital only
And it's dead. That was quick. Faster than the xb1 even.

>>384268286
Shitendo

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All these jive turkeys making fools of themselves in this thread. Chill it, Sony fans. We can always just grove together.

>>384281089
No, Nintendo's console is literally a fucking handheld, so it isn't "underpowered". Most third parties aren't planning on releasing major multiplats on Switch anyways, so they aren't affected by Nintendo, and they can still make deals for 3rd party exclusive titles like Ubisoft does for Nintendo.

>>384287930
>jive turkeys
what is that. i always see that in atari threads

>two different architecture CPUs
what the literal fuck

>>384269391
please leave and take your retarded bullshit plebbit questions with you

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>>384288525

>>384287000
People only buy physical because console physical games cost an arm and a leg due to deals woth physical retailers.
Pc doesn't have this deal, and voila nobody buys fucking physical on it. I imagine this will be the same thing. Nobody cares about physical when digital is allowed to be a fraction of the price.

>>384267696
Nintendo's cool with Microsoft.

>>384288525
It's fake.

>>384288190
>being this much of a honkey

For all the Artarifags in the thread>>384277686

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>>384289719
it's Ataritard by the way.

>>384268286
nintenbro

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>>384265745
>BandaiNamco and the other big Japanese 3rd parties

Yeah, I remember the last time the Japanese tried to support a non-Japanese (Sony) console. Didn't go over well.

>>384277784
>Why waste money making another console, market it, make exclusives for it and so on, when you can just keep trucking with you have already, and possibly to a greater audience.

Well Sega pretty much only makes games for Sony's systems, so that would be no different really.

>>384288667
Actually, buying physical is cheaper than digital most of the time since there are preorder discounts and physical copies go down in price quicker than digital.
On Xbox/PS a game retails $60 digitally on their respective digital marketplaces, but $48 physically if you buy from Amazon or Best Buy with the gamers discount.
And if time has passed, some games like GTA V took an eternity to go down in price (assuming it ever went down) while you can buy a used copy of a game cheap as soon as people start getting rid of their copies.
PC doesn't have physical because you faggots fell for the digital jew and Steam already monopolized PC gaming for the most part. When Microsoft was going to do it with the Xbox One, people retaliated and they backtracked on the vision they had for the console. People like buying physical because it's a tangible product with resale value and is collectible.

>>384291026
sega was like the only japanese company who really supported the xbox

>>384291480
>PC doesn't have physical because you faggots fell for the digital jew and Steam already monopolized PC gaming for the most part
PC doesn't have it because stuff like sales on the digital market places replaced physical used market sales for the "buying it later at a reduced price" consumer. Physical used market is pure jewery too, don't deny it. It's what keeps Gamestop and its ilk around and allows them to squeeze publishers as they try to stay afloat while they drown. The big games being $60 on release digitally is partially because of the physical retailers forcing parity between prices, so I don't see how you can try to argue that one particular bit of money grubbing is better than the other. Both even out in the end and only exist to try and get money out of the consumer by offering an attractive price cut to late adopters while squeezing the early adopter whales.

>>384292012
Understandably since a majority of Sega's American branch worked on the Xbox. However Sega is purely a Sony publisher now, despite them saying things like "we would love to put Yakuza on PC"