It's time to discuss the best RPG ever made.

The walking ways all require violence. The tribunal killed their friend as a sacrifice to try and better their people, it backfired, now they are all dead, except vivec, but according to him gods never truly die, they can always wake up if they chose.

Almalexia has a cute butt.

its time to relentlessly circlejerk about a horribly outdated game with shitty combat and game mechanics?

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>>384252701
The combat is a lot less shit if you are a pure mage. You'll be weaker early game, but fun > min-maxing.

>>384252701
>getting raped by a mudcrab

you deserved it desu

>>384252502
it's more like saying
>it's time to discuss the best RPG design ever made
there's too much trouble involved in getting people the graphics extender installed just to get them past the combat

it would be that easy to stick on steam as even a community refresh. bethesda has been getting unloved especially with the fucking fantasy they own trying to get ESO off the ground

>>384252502
Not sure I agree.
I do like it a lot, I don't mind the graphics(though it's been a while since I played) and I see no problem with diceroll combat because I'm not that autistic.

When someone says FF7 is the best Final Fantasy I think they're probably right since it's so well rounded even though I don't agree.
I can't as easily agree with Morrowind being the best rpg, but I'm not sure what would be the best one either.
Best elder scrolls probably. Baldurs Gate could be a contender.

How does fallout 1/2 and arcanum rank?

>>384252502
Tabletop is better.

>>384252502

>TES

intothefuckingtrash

>>384255084
TES has the deepest lore of any video game IP

>>384255502
Mario

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I'm playing a pure mage!

Pray for my soul.

>>384256141
prayer sent
you better not install any porn/erotica mods or the warranty of my prayer is broken

>>384255084
(You)

Captcha: Merchant Burnazi

>>384256527
>Morrowind
>porn mods
I did not pick a caster race or birthsign so there is a degree of violent assrape going on, but it's purely vanilla experience.

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>>384254051
>there's too much trouble involved in getting people the graphics extender installed just to get them past the combat
why the hell would you tell normies to install graphics extender?
graphics mods make Morrowind look retarded like pic related

If anything, newcomers should just install FPS Optimizer program and run the game in 640x480 resolution for authentic 2002 experience.

Turning Morrowind into 4K, extended view range and a mish-mash of graphical mods will just make it look like A E S T H E T I C.

I tried to play this a couple of years ago, I couldn't get past the combat. How is swinging at a fucking rat that is slowly killing you because your hits won't connect fun?

>>384257127
if you desire even more extra difficulty, download the mod which makes you unable(or very time consuming) to increase your skills by using them. You would have to increase your skills through training. As a wizard, that would give you an incentive to be an apprentice to a few wizards with 100 in desired skill. It should be on the Nexus

you also might be interested in Draconian Voice mod. This lets you to boss around people who are on a lower rank than you - send them on quests or menial tasks and stuff like that. So, you can tell Ahnassi to go an pick her own damn mushrooms and also pick some for you. Although it seems that this mod doesn't exist anymore - I for one cannot find it anymore or it possibly has a different name.

>>384254651
> I think they're probably right even though I don't agree.
What is wrong with you?

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>>384258120
I did not want extra difficulty, I just thought in my infinite folly that I could work around offensive spells being useless when the player tries to rely on them. I'm hanging on by enchanted items and scrolls at this point, and I have no idea how I'll manage Buttmoon with its hordes of 999hp enemies and reflect on everything.

>>384256141

What khajiit mod?

>>384258649
I recently made a playthrough as a sleazy all-talk-no-walk Hlaalu mobster. I couldn't increase skills by using them and I majored and minored in everything non-combat. All I had to use were my personality, scrolls, potions and Illusion magic.

It was doable. Although I had to carefully choose my battles. In Firemoth I bribed and did some Illusion to get Hlaalu guards to follow me there and let them take care of it. Although I did have to do several tactical retreats to bring reinforcements.

>>384258473
Something that is subjectively your favorite doesn't have to objectively be the best.

>>384259476
Westly's master headpack, Liztail's beast bodies. I don't know if either can be found on the internet anymore.

>>384260040
There's a difference between doable and enjoyable, especially considering how dull and pointless the main quest is. Hurr Nords, durr Hircine. Also you have to escort not one but two fragile idiots through the fursona maze at the end, I'm basically botching that in advance because there's no way I could keep either of them alive.

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Why there is no simple mod for any of TES games with shirts and trousers?

I just want to recreate some sort of this bar with argonians dressed in the fashion of the 50s.

>>384261212
>>384259476
http://mw.modhistory.com/download--12454
http://mw.modhistory.com/download-10-11364

Both can easily be found as the first result of a google search

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>>384252502
Okay anon, I'm ready

>>384252502

Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that it's the best RPG ever made, because I can recognize it has its flaws (that fucked up combat system, for one). But I can overlook its flaws for that amazing world and incredible story.

Also - and I might get flayed alive for this - I liked the lack of quest markers. It felt more immersive to me.

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>>384252502
> miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss! miss!

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Good game.

>>384263581
lol, that game is a joke.

>>384265683
Man, these webms always make me laugh. But then I get sad when I remember that there people who actually defend this.

>>384264984
>I might get flayed alive for this
/v/ has fallen far, but not *that* far.

>>384256141
Absorb Health is the strongest spell

>>384265936
I get sad that I've been seeing the same bait in every Morrowind thread since this board was founded.

>>384252502

It's so sterile, I could never get into it.

>>384266194
Like this guy. What a sad little man, that he will defend an objectively bad game just so he can seem more mature and smart because the game is old.

>>384252502
That's not Gothic 2

>>384266558
>>384266603
Go back to your containment thread.

>>384264984
The journal was much more immersive

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Wrong.

Its sad when morrowind babies have to copy gothic babies' threads just to feel important. Very sad. Babies cry.

>>384266603
That's the greatest RPG not the best RPG

>>384252502
>best RPG ever made

Anon it's not even the best TES game

>>384268078
Get the fuck out

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>>384260446
And how is this 'objective' quality determined? Consensus?

>>384268078
It sure is. Are you a daggerfag?

>>384252502
>best RPG ever made
Anon, I..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PcUQQOODv0

>>384268863
>a
Are you implying there's more than one retard here that worships Daggerfall?

>>384265445
>Meanwhile, in every other game
>Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit! Hit!
How is that any more realistic? The real world doesn't have a health bar. If you hit an enemy and he keeps going just like before, you actually missed. Cause nothing has changed.

will I enjoy this game if I hate talking to NPCs and reading lore?

>>384269512
Dark souls would be more your style.

>>384269512
Only if you enjoy shit combat and a bland setting.

>>384252502
"best RPG ever made" doesn't do Morrowind justice. it's a god tier game that happens to be a RPG. all the things that made it characteristically great could be found in any other genre

>quality of writing
>artistic direction
>authenticity/creativity
>world design (encompasses exploration and immersion)
>attention to details
>character development
>replay value
>depth and quantity of content

but as far as RPG components go it's actually pretty mediocre, especially compared to Interplay titles of that era

>poorly implemented or completely useless/broken mechanics (vampirism, marskman, cure paralysis)
>unintuitive leveling system that's more punishing than rewarding and (AFAIK) can't be fully understood without wiki
>no real limits on anything means it often gets illogical (on demand consequence-free killing through speechcraft, logarithmic intelligence gain with alchemy, re-selling an entire shop's inventory for MORE money with fortify barter, etc) sometimes without deliberate exploiting
>separate skills with tons of overlap. I'm not saying it should be dumbed down to Skyrim levels but "short blade" proficiency should at least help somewhat with "long blades"

>>384269230
Hehe nice. That'll show these morrowinders.

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>>384252502
Oops wrong pic.

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>>384252502
Are there any mods that are really worth downloading? I mean actual content. Not stupid shit like graphic mods. I know that there is a project trying to recreate other lands in the engine, but I want something actualy complete.

>>384272027
openMW

>>384269835
>vampirism
Fair point, it's a legitimate curse in Morrowind and one you want to get cured as quickly as possible, and the extremity of it feels out of place considering how forgiving the rest of the game is. Still, it's cool as fuck to read the in-game books to actually find your bloodline's hideout (or discover that the vampire den you cleared out for a quest 50 hours ago was it) for shelter and quests.

>marskman
Now this is just bullshit. In terms of gameplay effectiveness Morrowind is second only to Skyrim in how good Marksman is. One-shotting cliff racers to walk the ashlands in peace, shooting down enemy spells with your nigh-endless supply of iron throwing stars, or how (due to your high agility and large max damage) your first hit with a decent bow will often knock the enemy to the ground, letting you pepper them with more arrows while they struggle to reach you. But that won't usually be necessary because this isn't Oblivion where most enemies you encounter at level 15+ will take several dozens of arrows to the face and keep charging. Here they typically die from a handful at most, especially if you use the poison enchanted ones for your opening shot. Then by the end you find those darts in Mournhold's ruins that are by far the strongest weapons in the game and will easily carry you through all the expansion content.

>cure paralysis
It works fine. My alchemists always carry a couple cure paralyzation potions for the rare situations where you could end up paralyzed. If you mean the fact that you can't cast it on yourself when paralyzed, well no shit. You can't cast spells while paralyzed. Why should you suddenly be able to just because one of those spells can cure it? There's more cast types than "on self" and the spell still works exactly as described. If you want to avoid paralysis then be prepared and cast a resist spell before it's too late.

There's a lot of stupid bugs or poorly balanced mechanics in Morrowind, but those are poor examples.

I like Morrowind because it's a test for a massive open world RPG like Skyrim. Bethesda is meant to push the bounds of video game reality, submerging the player in a huge fantasy world where they can do virtually as much as we can. Its a good test run but the games might get better and better.

>>384272027
Antares mods
LGNPC
Uvirith's Legacy
Deus Ex Machina

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>tfw no game with the immersion/believable world of Gothic with the expansive lore and build variety of Morrowind

>>384269265
I think there are 2, at least.

>>384252701
>I was born in the late 90's: The Post

>>384275089
>I was born in the early 90's: The Post

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>>384252502
>LEAVE MORROWIND TO ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5Ew2oZxB0

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>>384275517
>tfw I can't play the original anymore after trying the unity version
Now it's time to play the waiting game for full release.

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>>384255084
Careful now