Comfy Sonic Mania Thread

>>384241073
>the special stage was Sonic Xtreme

Seeing as Taxman has a stiff for cut content, this seems likely.

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Anyone have the ghz map?

>>384241759
>when your fans make a better game than you

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What are your expectations for the music quality in Sonic Mania?
I mean, it's obvious that the music will be good judging by Mirage Saloon, Studiopolis, and the inclusion of Stardust Speedway, but do you think the music for this game will be well-received like the classics?

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The wait is so hard I wish I could just cryofreeze myself until it comes out. I can't stop thinking about the hypothetical circus/magic themed new zone.

What new things do you think they will reveal at Comic Con?

inb4 it's fucking nothing

>>384243195
I think the music will be as well received as most sonic games: very well

I just want to see Rosy the Rascal make an appearance in Sonic Mania to be completely honest

>>384243195
Yeah I think so. Tee Lopes has already shown in multiple places that he's a music making genius, and what he's given us so far with Studiopolis Act 1, Mirage Saloon Act 2, Green Hill Act 2, Chemical Plant Act 2 and the boss theme has basically all been fantastic.

>>384243367
Part of me wants them to reveal a bunch of shit so the wait is less excruciating, and part of me wants them to leave everything else a surprise. I'm being torn in half.

>>384243195
Mirage Saloon is already iconic.

>>384243367
I hope nothing. I want the rest of the game to be a total surprise.

DU DU DU DU DUUUUUUUUU

>>384243568
I'd call Studiopolis' theme more iconic at this point, but Mirage Saloon's track is still great.

>>384242145
>all offical art of the game sonic is dark blue, his original colour
>ingame sprite light blue

I know this is the same has SONIC HAS BLUE ARRRMMS but this triggers me for some reason.

>>384242679
Come on Mania bros, have some heart and spoiler this image for people who don't want it spoiled.

>>384243694
It looks to be the same person that did the art for Sonic the Screensaver back in the day so these colors are just what they remember/know.

>>384243764
Everyone must gaze at Egg Garden's beauty

>>384243770
More likely it's Pagoda West guys emulating the style with Sega's guidance, right down to the coloring.

>>384243764
We don't even know what it actually is. Still largely a surprise to us too.

>>384243827
>Egg Garden
now where have I heard that name before?

Whenever I listen to the Mirage Saloon music, my inner ear gets an erection.

>>384244256
Some people were thinking that the zone is a revamped version of Egg Garden from Taxman's first game. It probably isn't though.
I did hear from another thread that apparently it could be a new section of Hydrocity Act 2 from some beta tester's mouth.

>>384244325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7cg7Qd_23k

>>384244365
Doesn't look like the foreground from Hydrocity, Even Chemical Plant Act 2 uses the same foreground.

>>384244693
His probably completely wrong word not mine

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>>384241073

>he wait is almost over, bros.

YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR

A FUCKING

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>>384245191
Hey, at least it's not a year.

>the hype will be over in a month
I'm not prepared for this, mates.

>>384244693
Could be above ground

>>384245190
Thanks nigga

>>384245190
This is NOT finished

some autism anon, DO IT. FINISH IT. USE THE FOOTAGE WE'VE GOT.

>>384245527
It's not worth it at this point. Maybe for act 2?

>>384245527
It'll be more accurate when someone gets hold of the final game. Gamexplain will likely do a tour of Green Hill Zone.

>>384245701
Or that one Sonic map site will just do maps for all the zones.

>>384245751
If Zone 0 doesn't add a mania section I'll be pretty bummed

When people try to drop the lol romhack rehash, those official maps are going to shut them the fuck down, can only imagine how big Studio will look.

>>384245823
It would be great, but the site hasn't had a new article since 2014. Hopefully Sonic Mania brings them back from the dead like it did for Cybershell. I want maps and cute descriptive reviews of every zone.

>>384241073
i had a dream but it was a PC port of panzer dragoon orta

>>384245837
There have been several decisive shooting the fuck downs of the meme. That will never stop the shit posting. Unfortunately, it will only worsen a couple weeks after the games post release honeymoon period.

>>384245837
>Implying they'll just say it anyway because shitposting

>>384245916
Manias the first of its kind since 94. If it won't revive the site, nothing will.

>>384243195
I alread hate the invincibility track and the boss one. Studiopolis and MS are comfy without being truly great.

Also this shitty art is a testimony of the Dark Ages we need to forget.

Never really played much of Sonic outside of over a friend. Should I play 1-3/&Knuckles? Or only Sonic 2/3/&Knuckles since I've heard Sonic 1 is iffy.

>>384246694
Play all of them. Most people don't like Sonic 1 because it didn't have the spin dash yet.

Try Sonic CD as well. If you don't like the gameplay, then listen to the soundtrack (US and JP versions).

>>384246694
In order of essentiality

3k - the definitive one
Cd - the creative black sheep
2 - entry level standard fare
1 - sloppy humble beginning gs

I'd say all 4 are worth a go if you know what to look for out of tbem

>>384246694
I'm not the biggest fan of 1, but it's only like half an hour to complete.
>>384246759
I don't like it because for all the supposed emphasis on platforming it has it sure is really basic and dull.

>>384246853
If you can make it through Labyrinth you're fine.

>>384246694
Try 1 and if you're not enjoying it go to 2.

>>384245837
>lol romhack
as long as they keep the rehashed old levels and music, it will be called a romhack. no amount of remixing is going to change that we've played those levels and songs to death.
>but muh layouts
I take it you'd be ok with sega selling you megamix at $20?

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>>384246694
I'd say just start on 2.

>>384241073
are you a shill?

>>384241073
i had a dream two nights ago that it was a week before release and i got to play it early and i got so excited i woke up

fuck this gay earth

>>384246990
Think I might do that. Seem everyone feel it's flawed but since it's not long it's not that bad.

Just wondering is Sonic 3 different than & Knuckles or are they the same game just a bit more to it?

>>384246990
>>384247501
Probably worth at least playing Green Hill Zone because it's simple enough to not be tedious like much the rest of the game, and is so heavily referenced, notably in Sky Sanctuary Zone.

>>384246694
play them in order. sonic 1, then 2, then 3, then s & k. then play either sonic cd or sonic 3 & k.

>>384243367
>>384243516
>>384243570
they're not revealing anymore zones iirc

>>384247681
They were always suppose to be one big game, but got cut in two for a bunch of reasons.
There's no reason to play Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles separately.

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personally i am interested in leaderboards

i just hope there isn't some clipping out of bounds bullshit this time, where highscores are like 3 seconds for a level

and no cheaters

>>384247791
There's a couple of reasons to play Sonic 3 alone such as music and final boss amongst other small things.

>>384247842
It'll get cheaters for sure dude, it sucks but Sonic CD's leaderboards were rapes with them.

>>384247894
The Anon can also play Sonic 3 Complete, that thing gives you all the options you would want including music ones.

>>384247894
Just play 3 Complete.

>>384247842
I totally expect leaderboards.

>>384247894
You can just play Sonic 3 Complete instead if you want Sonic 3 mini boss music and such during the & Knuckles half of the game.

>>384247363
It's built from the ground up. There's literally no romantic being hacked.

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>>384248006
Out of curiosity, does 3 complete use the changed stages from 3&K? Stuff like the changing those spikes in hydropolis into an one-up?

>>384247681
Sonic and knuckles is the secons half of sonic 3. So they are the same game

>>384248004
Who knows, it's been a while since the Sonic CD version of the engine. The Mania engine has probably been more tuned up and won't allow cheating too bad.

>>384248132
again, it's an option. sonic 3's original level difficulty is used by default, though, yes.

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>yfw playing the cathedral level
>yfw the hard boiled heavy crashes through a stained glass window to start the fight

>>384248132
most of the default options in Sonic 3 Complete will "Sonic 3-ify" the whole game, if that makes sense

>>384248132
Is there any other examples of that? I thought about it but people are pretty sure it was a coding error so I wasn't sure if it should count towards something like this.

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>>384248307
>yfw cathedral level
>yfw get to the boss room, hard boiled heavy is sitting with his back to your playing a giant piano

>>384248389
There's still a spring to the right of the one-up, making you lose progress in running away from the wall if you just roll into it. It was intentional.

Another thing that proves this is that Launch Base was full to the brim with Robotnik Monitors in the lower paths, but there's like only one in the 3&K version.

Seems that complete leaves the hard mode by default.

>>384248770
I like that 3 Complete makes Launch Base Act 2 a bitch again. Just like it should be.
Also like how it brought back Big Arm.

>>384248056
when people say mania is a romhack they don't mean a literal rom that was modified. they mean "why are we getting old zones again with different layouts? they can do better than that", which is true. anyone can edit the layout of a stage from art that already exists. the level design might not necessarily be good but that doesn't change that it comes across as "minimal effort" to some fans. for that you can blame sonic team or sega or whoever. we could've had a completely original game but no. got to remind us for the hundreth time of green hill, chemical plant, flying battery, and any other zones we've seen and played for the last 20 something years.

Guy that asked about the Genesis Sonic games. What is Sonic 3 Complete? Honestly never heard of it only 1-3 & Knuckles.

>>384249387
It's a hack rom that combines Sonic 3 with Sonic & Knuckles like the one large game it was always suppose to be. You can change a whole bunch of things in the menu before you load the game from changing music to changing object layouts.

>>384249387
Compiler that lets you chose since options and create a ROM of S3K with whatever elements of S3 or S&K you want plus some bonus changes I think.
I don't personally use it because I'm a purist and consider the release version to be the most appropriate for playing but I understand the appeal.

>>384249387
Perfection.

Also 10 on google.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete

What's Mirage Saloon Act 1 gonna be like?

>>384251880
Is the animation actually making the bubble shield shimmer accordingly? I love it.

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>>384252098
Dust Hill.

>>384252098
This but finished & with slightly different music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKhugaluGh0

>>384252098
The mountains in the background are gonna be closer.

>>384252270
I wonder why they removed the bull skull.

Rank Special Stages
3>1>CD>2

Sadly none of them are that great but I'm hopeful for Mania.

>>384252947
Chaotix>CD>3>1>2

>>384241073
>>384246597
There's that word again.

>>384252189
Source of image? Google image search gives me nothing.

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>>384254159
From the 'Mega Drive' Archie comic iirc

>>384254159
Sonic Mega Drive. It's the last Archie Sonic comic spinoff before the comic died, and it even didn't get to finish.
Give it a read, best thing to come out of the comics in years.

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Is this just a portion of Flying Battery, or is it still something they haven't shown off yet?

>>384254371
No one knows. That little picture is all we have.

>>384254371
Reminds me of Quartz Quadrant. Probably isn't though, since we already have Stardust Speedway for Mania.

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So I'm replaying Sonic 3 via Sonic 3 Complete since I never tried it out before and fuck, this game is making me want Hydrocity in Mania more than ever. It has such cool aesthetic, music and mechanics, if they pick Labyrinth or Tidal Tempest over this I'm going to be so disappointed.

>>384254880
Hydrocity is everyone's favorite water level. It's most likely what they're gonna choose as the Sonic 3 rep zone.
A lot of people think they're gonna choose Labyrinth though because of a couple tweets and how Labyrinth is after Green Hill in the Sonic 1 code and the Green Hill Act 2 boss leaves a hole in the ground after you beat him and Taxman says that the whole will have more meaning when the game comes out.

Who fucking knows.

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>>384254880
I have never paid too much attention to the background, but it's so fucking good.
See that Sonic statue on the column there? That's some good shit.

>>384254880
I love getting to the breakable block hallway at the start of Act 2 right before the crescendo in the music starts. Feels so good every single time.

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RE-MIN-DER to stop browsing 4chan in about 3 weeks unless you want the entire experience spoiled.

>>384254880
Hydrocity is one of the few water levels in gaming people like, to the point they prefer it to non water levels in the game.

It's an awesome level.

>>384256007
I wonder how hard they actually have the game under lock-and-key so it doesn't get into the public before the game comes out. I would expect security to be pretty tight.

>>384249118
>I like that 3 Complete makes Launch Base Act 2 a bitch again. Just like it should be.
Something to consider is that in 3&K, Launch base is no longer the final act, so difficulty balance is taken into consideration to make it so that the level is properly difficult for a half-way point.

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>>384255095
>the Green Hill Act 2 boss leaves a hole in the ground after you beat him and Taxman says that the hole will have more meaning when the game comes out.
The level transition in Sonic 3 from the first stage to the second stage (Hydrocity) was falling into a hole.

>>384256516
Huh, didn't think about that. Interesting.

>>384256753
It's all falling into place

>>384256753
But Hydrocity Zone is on Angel Island, not where Green Hill resides.

>>384256934
Well remember everything is taking place in a magic elevator time distortion world or something. Anything could happen.

>>384256761
In my opinion Sonic 3 Complete is a neat little thing, but S3&K is pretty perfect the way it is, even with the minor bugs that Complete fixes.

The designers of the original knew what they were doing when they put that stuff together, and I think the only legit complaint is the swapping of the Knuckles and Boss music for different tracks.

Even that I would argue is a matter of taste, because I prefer the S&K version of the boss tracks.

>>384256084
Because even the water sections are pretty fast, which is what Sonic is all about.

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>>384255278
>Act 1 background
>Act 2 waterslides

Hope lava reef gets some love.

>>384257783
If S&K doubles dips after Flying Battery, maybe.

>>384257543
The top path in Act 1 had water slides.

Do we know if the game will have a platinum trophy?

>>384258960
Doesn't every PS4 game have a platinum trophy? I dunno why Sonic Mania wouldn't have one.

>>384259175

Smaller downloadable titles don't always get platinums.

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>>384258750
Nope

>>384259794
Huh, I must be going crazy. My bad.

>>384256753
>>384257090
>>384256761

It's probably going to be an original zone

According to sources, Hard Boiled Heavies appear as the Act 2 bosses of new zones. And since Eggman is the boss of Green Hill it would make more sense for them to mix things up a bit.

Besides, I don't think they'd jump the transition from 1 to 3 so quickly. Chemical Plant would probably come first if anything

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>>384260710
>Studiopolis Zone
>Mirage Saloon Zone
>cathedral level
>sky clockwork level
>still one more original stage
what should it be, /v/?

>>384261216
Either the Japanese garden for the ninja heavy or the magic circus show for the top hat heavy.

>prefer Sonic CD US soundtrack over the JP one
>the other 90% of people like the JP one more
>chances are we're only getting remixes of Past and the JP Present, and my favorite song through all of Sonic CD's soundtracks will never get a sick remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcR0v6I_w8

I hope Tee Lopes acknowledges the US soundtrack somehow. Too many good tunes to just give up.

>>384261428
It's very obvious in everything he does he prefers the style of the JP soundtrack.

>>384245916
>Cybershell has awakened from his ancient slumber thanks to mania and shat on 4 and chaotix
pretty good stuff

>>384261791
He's a good boy. I'm looking forward to Let's Play Sonic Mania with a much needed return of the Cunt-O-Meter.

>>384245701
>>384245823
Sonic Retro will probably rip the maps.

>>384261428
It'd be nice if he found some way to incorporate both the US and JP themes because Stardust Speedway has the best music in both versions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MVMzq_3Q-A

>>384261881
This is what i'm looking forward to from him, he'll be dumb not to do it

>>384261528
I can't deny that. He likes his groovy upbeat stuff, and what he produces is still absolutely fantastic. It's just that I still prefer the awesome ambient stuff in Sonic CD's US soundtrack.

Though, I'm more than fine getting all of the other remixes. I'm sure he'll make them sound amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHLaaOSaOY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ZSrPIFETg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTl3h39abxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TcDzS7ZwU

>>384262151
My favorite from the US OST is probably the tracks for Tidal Tempest. I like the added backing vocals and funk.
A good other side to the JP's ambient melancholy.

Reminder
Toot toot > Sonic boom

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>>384262395
Reminder you have great tastes.

>>384262395
I'd fight you on that, but you gotta admit that the credits version of Sonic Boom sounds much more satisfying than the Engrish in toot toot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzUUqNcjfYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhoI1_K5RbU

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>>384261216
>>384261304

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Will Taxman and his autism allow him to pass up a chance to do this again?

>>384263051
>It's the same screen but with Aarons face on the Sonics

Friendly reminder
https://www.destructoid.com/sonic-team-justifies-sonic-4-s-notorious-physics-188594.phtml

>I never had a problem with Sonic 4's physics, but "fans" around the world are furious. Just do a Youtube search for "Sonic 4 physics" and you'll see a legion of rage-fueled videos from confirmed virgins. Sonic Team director Takashi Iizuka has finally addressed the anger. Be careful though -- his answer won't please.

>"In this title, we have not done a straight port of the gameplay [from the Genesis games], but rather updated it with actions which could not be done in the previous titles, like ceiling-running," explains Iizuka. "These changes probably made for a different feel to the longtime Sonic fans. We’re happy for feedback like this, and we’ll make sure we can improve the quality even further in upcoming titles."

>Pathological haters Sonic Retro have already called out Iizuka on being a "lazy, clueless director" and there's little doubt that other prominent members of the terrifying Sonic fanbase will take up their pitchforks over his unsatisfactory comments.

>Don't get me wrong -- I think Iizuka's response was lame -- but only because he should have said, "No, the physics are not exactly like Sonic 2 because the game isn't Sonic 2. Sega's released a billion ports of Sonic 2 if that's what you want. Now shut the f*ck up, you bizarre furry bastards."

-Jim Sterling

>>384262151
Question

why the FUCK was there different music made for different places around the world...?

>>384263193
In the 90s, different parts of the world had very different taste in music.

>>384263106
so this... is the power... of /v/'s idols...

>>384263193
Sega of America thought that the music in the JP version didn't portray Sonic as "cool" or as a "dude with a 'tude."

But, is this really a problem? Not only do you get one god tier soundtrack, you get TWO. Seriously, I can't name any other vidya soundtrack as wholly memorable as CD's.

>>384263193
Fun Fact: Genesis sound chip was changed up multiple times so not every Genesis sounds the same.

>>384263193
Reminder they didn't change some music because it was coded in to be played by the genesis and not a CD track

>>384263698
This is why the early model 1s are the only Genesis worth having.

>>384263106
>but rather updated it with actions which could not be done in the previous titles, like ceiling-running
>like ceiling-running

This shit will always trigger me. Like with the Lost World "we want the Mario audience"

>>384263751
pretty much all model ones used the same soundchip with certain model 2s

>>384264003
The early model 1s had the good soundchip, they switched to the shitty one later on and used that one for the model 2.

>>384264168
Alright, I'll believe you anon. I'll read up on the different hardware revisions later

bump, don't let this bread die

just pre-purchased this on steam, i can't wait REEEEEEEEE

>>384242891
>when your fans make a better game than you

when the sonic team are fans of taxman and stealth instead of the other way around

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>>384242237

>yfw The Boys don't show up

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>>384248307

>>384243195

The music sounds great so far, but I'm hoping that the rest of the new zones don't all sound like dance music/new jack swing.

>>384248537
>you get to the boss room, sonic starts playing the piano with is back to the camera and the boss walks in having no idea how fucked he is

>>384263104
I'd pay money just to see that

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>>384248537
>>384266435
>Walk into the room
>See this

>>384266578
smash

>>384252461
>Green Hill Act 2
>Mountains get closer

>Mirage Saloon Act 2
>Mountains get further away

poetry

>>384254371
supposed to be a new zone not based on any past trope

>>384252834
Probably because it's a kind of shitty sprite.

>>384263419
>Sonic ShitD

Don't do that
It's the least memorable Sonic

>>384263419
>Seriously, I can't name any other vidya soundtrack as wholly memorable as CD's.

Um, how about any soundtrack that everyone actually remembers the melodies for

Sonic CD did make me bust out HUEE HUEEE in the shower though

>>384241073
Pro Controller support confirmed for Switch:

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=35709&view=findpost&p=899065

>>384267834
Whats the deal with some games supporting the pro controller and some not?

It has the same buttons as the joycons right? It's basically a pair of joycons in a conventional shell right? Why does the console not handle this?

>>384256007
Good tip. I'll be doing that

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>>384247747
>anymore of the brand new zones
fixed

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I will post this in every Sonic thread until mania comes out.
>Green Hill
>Hydrocity
>Studiopolis
>Chemical Plant
>Flying Battery
>Mirage Saloon
>Mystic Cave
>Labyrinth
>Azure Lake
>A brand new Ice based level to compensate the loss of Icecap
>Quartz Quadrant
>Lava Reef
>Hidden Palace (A mix of S2 + S&K Only if you get all Emeralds by the time you finish Lava Reef)
>Brand new level to compensate the loss of Launch Base
>Stardust Speedway
>Death Egg (Again, mix of S2 + S&K)
>Final Fever (Only if you have all emeralds by the time you finish Lava Reef)

You heard it here folks, Screencap this.
>mfw im actually correct

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>/v/ when there's a classic water level from each sonic game

>>384247363
>selling you megamix at $20?
Yes, FUCK YES. GOD DAMN WHY DID YOU REMIND ME OF MEGAMIX? Eats me up inside every single day knowing it'll never be finished.

>>384262784
no

>>384249345
>we could've had a completely original game but no.
You mean the same exact game we're getting now except with more than half of the content missing? How the fuck is that preferable to you retards? Mania did not get changed for the worse after Taxman pitched it to Sega, it got expanded.

>>384268787
Why do you feel so confident about this list?

>>384262784
JP goes from great vaporwave to cheese pretty fast

A thing about Mania is that I'm willing to bet its causing a ton of people to replay old sonic games, obviously. So SEGA may be looking at not just the sales of mania itself, but also the sales of other sonic properties. I wonder how many people downloaded Sonic games on Steam this past year.

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>>384269674
do you know what vaporwave is?

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>>384262784
Believe in Yourself =/= Toot Toot. Toot Toot is actually You Can Do Anything.

>>384252947
3>CD>2>1

Fuck you, Blue Spheres and UFOs are great fun.

>>384269426
>why would just six original zones in a game be preferable to being forced to play remixed old zones just to see the new zones
gee anon. it's almost like I just want to play a new sonic game rather than wank off to nostalgia pandering

>>384270632
why are his eyelids blue?

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>>384270849
Sonic's eyelids are blue depending on the design.

>>384270783
>t's almost like I just want to play a new sonic game
So do I and that's what I'm getting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG6z9E6_LA8

>>384270849
Modern Sonic has blue eyelids doesn't he?

>>384270849
blue eyeshadow. Sonic felt it makes him look more grown up

>>384270632
seeing toot toot that many times made me laugh pretty hard

>>384268787
Why are you assuming we lost Ice Cap and Launch Base?

>>384254880
Is it pronounced "Hydro City" or "Hydrocity" like "velocity"? I always pronounced it Hydro City when I was a kid but now I'm not so sure.

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>>384271931
>I wish I was back at my desk playtesting mania....

>>384271782
I pronounce it as "Hydrocity" not because it's correct, but because it feels better to say and flows well.

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>>384271782
It's pronounced "Hydro City", the Japanese translation of the name confirms this.

>>384271782
Hydrox - x + city

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>>384270849
How's this?

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>>384272630
i like

The Ice Cream Will Own You

>>384273008
This isn't a Splatoon 2 thread anon.
This means several things, we'll be getting a ice level that's set inside a ice cream factory, or a boss made of ice cream.

*&ᵍᶫᶦᵈᵉ
**&ᵖᵘᶰᶜʰ ᵗᵒᵒ

>>384273008
What did he mean by this?

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>>384263106
>some Sonic fans actually have standards
>rightly call Sonic 4 shit
>"wow virgin haters omg Sonic 4 is fine shutup who even cares just go play existing Sonic games then"

>>384273786
Don't take that literal cuck seriously, m8.

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>>384273770
>2D knuckles can't actually punch things

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>>384273008

>alt timeline
>Instead of "In association with CHRISTIAN WHITEHEAD"
>you see "In association with CHRISTIAN WESTON CHANDLER"

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>>384273663
>>384273773
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2008/11/the-trouble-with-trailers-the-sonic-unleashed-debacle/

Making it a thing to keep /v/ from going full contrarian on Sonic Mania

>>384274280
But I though this timeline was the meme timeline.

>>384268787
Modified the list a bit to meet the standards. This will be the new version that will be copied and pasted from here on out.
>Green Hill
>Hydrocity
>Studiopolis
>Chemical Plant
>Flying Battery
>Mirage Saloon
>Mystic Cave
>Labyrinth
>Azure Lake
>Icecap
>Quartz Quadrant
>Brand new Radioactive themed level
>Lava Reef
>Hidden Palace (A mix of S2 + S&K Only if you get all Emeralds by the time you finish Lava Reef)
>Sky Sanctuary
>Launch Base (or Scrap Brain)
>Stardust Speedway
>Death Egg S&K (Or a brand new Final Area)
>Final Fever (Only if you have all emeralds by the time you finish Lava Reef)

>Egg Gauntlet (The Unused Boss Rush seen in the Sonic 2 iOS Port)

You heard it here folks, Screencap this.

>>384274379
Don't ever post that gif again

So, I was replaying Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (great Puyo Puyo game) so I'm not bored until Mania comes out, but Jesus Christ it's so sadistically hard it's not even fun. It starts as an easy game but quickly picks up difficulty in level 6. What the fuck?
I need help I'm about to lose my sanity.
Fuck you Sqweak.

>>384275398
I feel like the game is programmed to specifically send the trash to block your beans in the one spot you need. Was the original Puyo this hard, or is this a big boy Puyo game?

>>384274991
>Hidden Palace (A mix of S2 + S&K Only if you get all Emeralds by the time you finish Lava Reef)
Please don't get my hopes up.

>Stardust Speedway is 3 acts
>Third act is either Good or Bad Future depending on how many Emeralds you have.

>>384275578
I don't remember the original Puyo being THIS hard, so I guess this is a big boy one.

>>384249345
I hope these same autists whined about generations for the same reason

>>384276240
I'm on Grounder at the moment, I was about to win, then little dipfuck pulls out a 4 combo and turns the tables. See what I'm talking about? The AI in this game just wants you plain dead.

>>384274280
>taxman in that timeline is an autist making a comic about CD Sonichu Adventures

>>384249345
Old zones with ridiculously expanded layouts, new gimmicks, revamped art and remixed music. Which is awesome. It makes the levels we love fresh and enjoyable anew. It's the best possible way to rehash something.

>>384270783
>the options are a game with new levels, or this same game but also with remixed old levels
>it would be better if it were just the new levels
>less content is better
wut

So does the Mania Team choose which returning levels appear, or is that up to Iizuka and Sonic Team? Because I really don't want to see Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and Sky Sanctuary all in the same game AGAIN.
Although, now that I'm thinking about it, Sky Sanctuary as a full level would be pretty dope.

>>384276593
Somebody post Taxman and his /fa/ as fuckness for reference

I wanna try to imagine him drawing Sonichu

Is sonic mania coming to 3DS?

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>>384277014
no

>>384276863
Iizukas idea. And 100% of the content we would have gotten without that idea is still going to be present.

This is the biggest non-issue that's ever been whined about in a new sonic game. Fans are somehow performing the mental gymnastics to put it on the same level of red flag as shit like the werehog

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>>384277172
>nothin personell izuka

>Christian Wh-Whitehead here yeah....Original creator of Sonichu...I'm here to tell y'all that sonic arms are not skin tone

>>384277258
Disregard I suck dicks and misread your post

>>384277172
>Totino's
Every time

Taxman and Stealth are in the middle right? Who are the rest of the assholes?

>>384277398
The third cog in the wheel, PagodaWest Games. They also have people who worked on a sonic fangame- Sonic 2 HD. They also made normal mobile games I think too

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>>384277398
>Taxman and Stealth are in the middle right?
Correct, the rest of them are obviously from Pagoda West who worked on Sonic 2 HD in the past.

>>384277398
Probably Pagoda West.

>>384277172
Why does Stealth look like Steven Wozniak?

>>384277398
Pagoda West, Judging by the shirts.

>>384277579
More members from the Mania Team mentioned in the bottom here: >>384268761

>>384277615
Stealth is interesting. He has a high pitched voice, I must say he is pretty motivated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKrUQhn8KRo

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>>384277398
PadogaWest. I reckon they're helping with graphics and animations, since Studiopolis looks right out of Major Magnet, and the Mania title screen animation looks similar to the way they animate.

>>384249468
doesnt the lock on already accomplish this?

>>384278145
This one has new things that can change the gameplay via the options menu, such as playing Flying Battery in between Carnival Night and Ice Cap, as the intended order was, changing the CN, IC and LB songs to their PC counterparts, Flying Battery with the Beta BGs, being able to make the Super Sonic theme be a sped up version of the level song, and more.

>>384277172
>>384277304
taxman always looks like he belongs on the cover of a ramones album.

mirin' his /fa/

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>>384277908
Is Major Magnet worth playing? Or is it more indie trash?

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Wake me up when the torrent is here

>>384279185
It's okay, and has a great OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dadFQDqRJxU

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>>384279193
>torrent
You cheap hack.

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>>384279193
>pirating the best classic game we've ever had after +20 years
What is wrong with you?

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I'M NERVOUS HOLY SHIT

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>>384279140
Sonic 1
Labyrinth Zone
Scrap Brain Zone

Sonic 2
Aquatic Ruin Zone
Mystic Cave Zone
Oil Ocean Zone
Sky Chase Zone [this one doesn't really count]
Hidden Palace Zone [same with this, really.]

Sonic 3
Hydrocity
Azure Lake Zone
Chrome Gadget Zone
Endless Mine Zone

Sonic 3 and Knuckles

Lava Reef Zone
Hidden Palace [doesn't really count]
Sky Sanctuary Zone
Death Egg Zone

Sonic CD

Tidal Tempest

Mirage Saloon
Studiopolis
Leaked Cathedral
New Zone
New Zone


These are the only zones that can make it in from here, you can pick one of each for every game, except with Sonic 3, you can pick two there because we haven't had a Sonic 3 level confirmed.

This is the canon list for Mania, not in this specific order, but these levels will appear. Anything else = wrong. Yes, there will be three water levels and you'll take it like that.

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>>384279140

>Green Hill
>Lab zone
>Chem Plant
>Mystic Cave
>Hydro
>Azure lake
>Flying Battery
>Sky Sanc
>Tidal Tempest
>Stardust
>Studioplis
>Mirage
>new zone
>new zone
>leaked cath zone

This is the list for Mania, fight me

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>>384279638
good luck

>>384279645
I'll take:
Scrap Brain because Labyrinth is boring
Oil Ocean because it's a neat theme and would be my favorite if done properly.
Hydrocity because insanity will ensue for whatever they choose to do with Act 2.
Endless Mine because City Escape memes.
Lava Reef because it's just a really cool level, okay?
Tidal Tempest because you said so.

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>>384280121
These are some good opinions, anon.

You just know Hydrocity MANIAFIED act 2 will be fucking INSANE.

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>>384279645
Hydrocity with elements from Labyrinth and Scrap Brain

That's all we really need really. The rest would just be filler trash unless they completely revamped the stage, which in that case, I'd like to see Mystic Cave. I'd like to see something more surprising like something from Knuckles Chaotix.

Is there anything from the Game Gear games worth bringing over?

>>384280347
Sunset Park.

>>384280347
Literally only Bridge Zone from Sonic 1

The others I don't remember as much. They kind of blur for me. So many Green Hill replicas that aren't actually Green Hill or have some gimmick like Mecha Green Hill

Honestly I'd rather they stick with the 16-bit games and have some 8-bit references now and then

Everything Tee Lopes touches turn into Gold. I hope he turns Stardust Speedway Past into gold.

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>>384280023
I closed the emulator by accident because I'm autistic so I used a password to be at him again, That's why the points are so low.
I actually beat him faster than I thought. It fell great. Now I'm satisfied with this game and I'm glad I could beat it even after not playing after like 3 years.

>>384279470
>>384279496
Let's see how /vg/ will react once the torrent happens one week before the official sale

>>384281138
Now you're ready for Chemical Plant.

>>384281363
Well, now that the boss is confirmed to be Mean Bean Machine, I want them to literally make it a Puyo Puyo game battle.

>>384280418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zm5ofDEIJY&t=151s&spfreload=10

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Since they're adding a part where you literally play Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, presumably against a boss[?], what other old Sonic games could they throw in the mix?

I'd love to see a 8 bit styled Game Gear stage

>>384281526
Flicky

>>384281493
That's what it is actually, I hope it's one of the modes in Competitive mode similar to Adventure 2 having the kart racing in multiplayer.

>Sonic 2D
Why? Who give a fuck about Sonic 2D, Sonic 4 was atrocious when I play it with my son.

>>384281749
>when I play it with my wife's son.
Fixed.

>>384281749
Ice Cream Will Own You

>>384281749
k

>>384280347
Scramble eggs zone or jungle zone would be a good idea.

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So when do you guys plan on going on a 4chan blackout to avoid the eventual spoilers? Do you even care about spoilers?

I'm still miffed that the Chemical Plant Zone boss got spoiled.

>>384281859
Once it's confirmed that the game actually got leaked.

>>384281859
So were the Mirage Saloon bosses.
It's The Boys, Those Dudes.

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>>384281859
Spoilers were the best part about the recent Pokemon games when those launched, so I'm not the type that really cares about them

I want to know everything about something before getting into it

>>384281957
this.

>>384281859
>tfw don't know about the CPZ spoilers
Feels good hombre

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>>384241073
So where does Mania fit in the timeline/lore? Sonic 1 had Sonic learn of the Chaos Emeralds and defeat Eggman for the first time. CD had him save/ditch Amy. 2 started the Death Egg saga and 3&K picks up directly where 2 ends (Death Egg falls onto Angel Island, Sonic and Tails pursue, Knuckles meets Eggman first, who convices him that Sonic us after the Master Emerald).

The Sonic series from Sonic 1 all the way up to Sonic Advanced had really tight knit lore, with neat shit like Adventure 2 references SA1 and Classic through Gerald Robotnik creating Shadow based of murals in Hyrocity/Hidden Palace based off us knowing he visited Angel Island from his reports in Sonic Battle.

Where/When does Mania take place in the timeline? Between 3&K and Adventure (because Sonic 4 is non-canon and doesn't respect the timeskip between Classic and Adventure). Will it make sense that Sonic will be going from zones on South Island to new ones then suddenly to zones that should be on Angel Island or Little Planet?

>>384282472
Try to keep it that way because you DO NOT want to spoil the surprise.

>>384282472
i do and it significantly diminishes the impact of it. if anyone in this thread fucking spoils it for you i will personally come and kill them

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>>384282529
After 3&K.

>>384282529
It's suspected that if Forces and Mania tie together, then Mania is from its own dimension/timeline, possibly a new playground for Taxman and co to do whatever they want with Classic Sonic.

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>>384282529
Sonic lore has been shot in the ass since 06 and hasn't been important to the series at all

It's likely to just be the Sonic 4 we deserved

>>384282472
same guy here, I'm avoiding all the (you)s I'm getting from this

>>384280347
Aqua Lake from Sonic 2 Azure Lake is shit
Gigalopolis and Sleeping Egg from Sonic Chaos
Sunset Park and Tidal Plant from Sonic Triple Trouble

>>384243338

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CM5CzLJ0U0

>>384282668
This guy's just fucking with you.

>>384282717
Well, the fact that they're actually going through the effort to explain there's a reason Sonic is visiting these old places, means there's a overall story thread they're following.

>>384282882
intentional spoilering is reportable, help me out here

>>384282717
06 fatally wounded and raped the lore, but up until that point it was kino. I'd even include up to Rush Adventure.

>>384282717
As iconic as the pose is, it's so weird that Mania has all these fluid animations, yet they kept the body and legs stiff on the waiting pose

>>384283073
The overt focus on Shadow was the issue, but since his game ended in a way that we didn't really need to continue the Adventure 2 arc there wasn't any need for a reboot

Rush Adventure was admirable but honestly the game is just full of so much padding that I consider Rush a stronger game even with the weaker level design. Marine should've just been a girl Tails. It's a waste

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>>384282882
>>384283076
There, I deleted it. Are you happy?
Pic related is literally you.

>>384283076
That'll be for Flying Battery

>>384282529
Here's the timeline:
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic CD / Tails Adventure
Sonic 2 > 3&K
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic Mania?
TIMESKIP
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Advanced / Advanced 2
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Battle
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic Rush / Adventure

After this point, characters other than Sonic/Eggnab/Tails stop appearing the lore ceases to exist. Also Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and Sonic Spinball are in SatAM canon, not SegaSonic's continuity.

>>384283663
That's actually pretty fucking smart.

>>384283536
>spoils the fun for people
>says we're the people who are no fun

that really made me think

>>384282636
>CD isn't canon either
RIP Amy

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>>384284079
CD wasn't made by Yuji Naka and is an experimental sidestep

Honestly at this point I see CD sort of as the second half or almost a remake of Sonic 1 nowadays

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>>384283990
>autism

>>384283990
Why does Sonic Mania need to be in a timeline?

>>384284440
>>384284330

>>384284440
If the classic games all fit with eachother, why not?

>>384284079
>384284079

CD's place in the timeline was never established. A lot of people put it in-between 1 and 2.

>>384284440
>Hyrule Warriors isn't canon to the timeline
>Tri Force Heroes is

Honestly at this point it's better for fans to makeshift their own timelines cause the creators sure can't do it

>>384283990
Need to amend this, Shadow's character development in Sonic Battle reflects that he isn't suffering from amesia. As such, Sonic Battle takes place after Shadow.

>>384283990
I feel like the first Advance in some way should predate Adventure cause Sonic still has the Instashield

Shit's a better Sonic 4 than the actual Sonic 4 not by much

>>384284440
More to the point-- why would anyone think it doesn't come after Sonic 3 and Chaotix? The Classic timeline isn't nearly as convoluted as Modern's.

Unless you're counting Game Gear games then it's pretty straight forward. And even if you DID, over half of those games are just different versions of the same game from the Genesis and a few spin off titles that could go pretty much where ever you wanted with the exception of Tails' games which explicitly state they take place before Sonic 2. But in reality, the only games that have the most continuity with one another are Sonic 1, 2, and 3. Everything else is up for debate unless it's stated otherwise in the game manuals. And even THEN autists will argue over the authenticity of it because of "muh Japanese story" and "muh localization".

tl;dr autism none of this fucking matters

>>384285216
I'll work on /v/'s Official Sonic the Hedgehog Timeline after I get off of work. Any suggestions?

I plan to leave off the gamegear games (minus Tails Adventure) as their own continuity, I'll consider trying to make sense of the post 06 games but they really don't give me much to work with.

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What the fuck happened here?

>>384285453
Adventure has Sonic meet Eggman again after what I assumed had been quite a while. And Amy in Adventure had not seen Sonic since CD, seen in her flashbacks to Little Planet. Sonic hasn't lost the ability to insta sheild per say, he just favors the homing attack over it. That aspect of the lore mostly gives way to game mechanics.

>>384285587
isn't this a level wrap?

>>384285453
>>384285840
If you want to add to the confusion, Classic Sonic in Generations was pulled from GHZ, so presumably he was pulled from Sonic 1. Thus, he sees his entire future before the events of Sonic 2.

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>>384286218
>inb4 this is actually the deepest lore Iizuka planned and that Classic Sonic actually is an alternate dimension now due to the events of Generations

>>384286218
It doesn't necessarily have to be at that time, he could just have been running through GHZ for the fun of it rather than actively searching for Eggman.
Given he seems to recognise Classic Tails, you could presume he's pulled into White Space anytime after Sonic 2.

>>384286387
That's so stupid that I could believe it.

>>384286460
Sonic 2 leads directly into 3&K, so Generations has to take place after 3&K. And since Classic Sonic learns the homing attack in Generations, Sonic Mania can't take place after it. Maybe Generations leads to the bad alternate timeline that is Sonic 4?

>>384286460
this makes no fucking sense, and by "this", i mean whatever sonic team pulled with the lore. sonic 2's conclusion was the death egg falling to angel island, so sonic doesn't have time to go run through GHZ - 3 picks up IMMEDIATELY after the end of 2.

but sonic and tails are acquainted already, so it has to be after 2.

what the fuck, sonic team?

>>384287163
Oh my god, you're right. Bad physics, homing attack. This is why you don't mess with time, kids.

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>>384283990
>Advanced
fucking Christ stop that shit already

>>384283990
Add Advance 3 after Sonic Battle

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>>384287181
Okay, for this VERY LONG post I'm going to assume that Sonic Team want to split up the dimensions so Mania and Forces don't take place in the same one.
So Modern and Classic Dimensions exist.

Sonic 1-3K (and Sonic CD) occur in both dimensions in the same order.

But after that, Generations occurs (from Classic Sonic's perspective), which causes the two Sonics to meet, splitting the timeline.

This means that Classic Sonic's dimension changes when he returns there after Generations. Mania could then follow.

As for Modern Sonic, the release order for mainline console games would apply for the most part (from Modern's perspective).
Then Generations happens, after which Lost World and Forces follow.

Confusing isn't it?

>>384249387
Google is your friend

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>>384285587
No seriously, I never encountered these glitches before, and I've played this game for over 10 years now.

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>>384287163


>>384287321
>Original timeline
>1, CD, 2, 3&K, Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow
>What happens is Classic Sonic is taken from this timeline and brought into Generations prior to Sonic 2

>Sonic 4 timeline
>1, CD, Generations, 4 (2 and 3&K never happened as intended, Death Egg is the one from Generations), Unleashed (Different lore for the Chaos Emeralds than Adventure), Colors, Lost World, Forces
>The Iizuka timeline, ignoring all of Yuji Naka's work other than

Not the most well thought out, but more of a conceptual split timeline that fills the gaps

>06 is a reboot that has no connection with either and exists on its own plane of existence

>>384288276
so it's some DBZ-tier time travel shit where you travel back to your original timeline despite having altered it or whatever? i think it'd be neato if forces bad future happens as a consequence of generations

I don't connect the 3D Sonics and the 2D sonics stories. Separate canons.

>>384288501
I should've worded some of this a bit better
>Sonic met Tails in the Original timeline, but before the Death Egg trilogy resulting in their first experience being Generations
>Ignoring all of Yuji Naka's work other than the Classics

I would need more time to actually think about this

>>384288428
You literally looped through the stage by going over it. You can do that in every zone iirc.

>>384288501
Generations can't happen before Colors, you dumb shit.

>>384288596
This. Iizuka even keeps referring to the 'classic world' as if it is its own separate thing, where mighty and the super emeralds and the original chaotix exist.

Meanwhile generations classic sonic is likely indeed just younger modern sonic from the 'modern' world. Mania is the actual classic sonic from the classic world.

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>>384288771
And it fucks up the colors? Here's a better image for the second one, I'm hanging on the wall but it's showing the wrong sprite.

Is Generations the worst thing to happen to Sonic's lore?

>>384288862
Probably should've put Generations after Colors since it is a direct sequel, but it also happens before Colors due to it being Classic Sonic's game too

Generations' Classic Sonic learns the Homing Attack and it goes into Sonic 4 which results in the rest of the Sonic 4 timeline
>1, CD, Generations, 4, Unleashed, Colors, Generations, Lost World, Forces
Storybook series probably happens between Unleashed and Colors

>>384289028
Yes